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appreciate you taking the time"},{"startTime":5918.225,"endTime":5922.125,"body":"to hang out with us and give us a chance,"},{"startTime":5922.735,"endTime":5927.595,"body":"share this podcast with somebody, change"},{"startTime":5922.735,"endTime":5927.595,"body":"lives, go and spend time with your kids."},{"startTime":5927.935,"endTime":5931.535,"body":"Because now you've always wanted to"},{"startTime":5927.935,"endTime":5931.535,"body":"be for Jason and Matt and myself."},{"startTime":5931.915,"endTime":5932.875,"body":"Thanks for hanging out with us."},{"startTime":5932.905,"endTime":5934.715,"body":"Be better tomorrow because"},{"startTime":5932.905,"endTime":5934.715,"body":"of what you do today."},{"startTime":5934.765,"endTime":5935.615,"body":"And we'll see you on the next one."},{"startTime":5937.495,"endTime":5939.995,"body":"This has been the fellow man podcast."},{"startTime":5940.62,"endTime":5944.05,"body":"You're home for 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