EP 43 | Nancz and Brenda Talk About all Their Emotions

This week, we go all the way in on emotions. The ones we’ve been stuffing down, numbing out, or trying to outrun.
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Nancz opens up about her past relationship with alcohol — how it became a tool to disconnect from what she didn’t know she was even holding. And Brenda shares how a wave of emotions is rising to the surface lately, but this time... she’s not pushing them away.
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We talk about what it’s like to actually sit with your feelings, what happens when they finally come out, and how holding space for yourself changes everything.
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Feeling your feelings is the most underrated flex. 🫀

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Transcript

EP 43 | Nancz and Brenda Talk About all Their Emotions

 Hey guys! Welcome to the Deep Dive In podcast with Nancy and Brenda. And we are back, baby. I didn't even tell you. No you didn't. No. Three. Two one. Here. No. Three. Two one. I just said let's go. She got she, like, said a phrase before she even pressed her. And it got me thinking and going on that on the emotions. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of emotions in the air today. Yeah. And I feel like probably full moon talk about it. So you see. Yeah, I, I was thinking about this the other day. Like the whole full moon thing. Now that I'm more aware of, like, oh, we are meant to, like, follow the moon cycles, right? And like, they talk about how our month should be like 28 days, because that follows more of the moon cycles that we we basically should be following as human beings in this Earth. But we didn't. It was at some point. Yeah. And then I'm like, yeah. And now I'm more aware of it. Yeah. You know more. Oh, it's a full moon. That's why I'm feeling some kind of way. And then I'm just like. Wait. Like now. I'm not into it. I'm like, where were these emotions when I wasn't aware of it? Yeah, I just wasn't aware of it. And I was just being emotionally dramatic in my head. And I was just like, oh my God. But you see, now that I'm aware of it and I'm like, oh, you know, like more aware, for example, of like my, my chart and like all of those things. Right. It's all astronomy, right? You're I'm just trying astrology. Astronomy. Yeah. Don't get them started on that. Well not very I'm not there yet guys. So astrology and I'm just like okay. Like now it makes sense to me. But it's just at the same time I'm like, where the hell is this shit? Well, you know, back then I had no idea. So I was just like going through life. I mean, I still don't understand it all. Yeah, but I was just, like, going through life mindlessly, just being angry or feeling sad or feeling depressed or whatever I was feeling at the time without knowing maybe why or having some direction on why, and actually knowing a like some of your of my astrology has. I understood myself a little bit more, even though it's all just very vague stuff. Yeah, like it's very like, oh, you are a outgoing person and blah blah blah blah blah. Because you need somebody that knows it to tell you about it more in depth. Yeah. And I guess that's the part of it. Yeah. Having somebody read my, my chart to tell me exactly. Like what things. Yeah. What are some things? I know you had your art, your chart read. Yeah I did. It was like a mini chart reading. It was in like a full in-depth chart reading, which I want to do soon. Are you able to explain, like, just a little bit of what exactly that is for somebody that has no idea what we're talking about? Yeah. So like, you know how people ask you, um, oh, when's your birthday and what time were you born and where? It's because those are the three things that are used to determine how pretty much how the stars and the planets were aligned when you were born, and depending on that alignment. Uh, in my perspective, is depends on a lot of things that that have to do with, like your personality and like your love life and your business life, your career life, your family life. Um, and so far. My chart. Reading the mini chart reading that I got has been pretty spot on with things. And, uh, I'm just now remembering that, uh, around this time, actually, there's going to be like a huge blossoming for me. Uh, wait, I just remembered. I just remembered. So last year, talking about last year, I was a part of this, uh, like, group workshop where it was going to be a it was a it was a nine month workshop, but I only did three months of it. And in that workshop, she pretty much said how like the month of May or so between March to May, I think it was going to be like a huge catalyst where you kind of blossom into something different, something new. And now I see that wait for my like, like this month, this month, it was it. They told you it was going to be this month, that you were going to blossom into something? Yeah. Something new. And I see it, I see it. What do you mean? Do you want to share? Uh, well, I see it happening within myself and, uh. Okay, okay. Not materially, but within myself. I am blossoming into a different version of me. Like I'm going through a shedding of. Myself and, uh, and a lot of former versions of myself. And I'm stepping into this new skin, I guess, if you want to call it. And, um, like a snake. Like a snake. Yeah. I'm thinking Aurora in her. Yeah. Personal shit. But yeah. Anyways, back to your original question. That that's what I would say about a chart is they take the time, place and date that you were born and depending on the planets and the stars and how they were aligned, it says a lot about our life and how it may go for us. Yeah. Mhm. It's interesting because it's like I heard a saying like oh it's written in the stars or something. Mhm. And it kind of goes with that I believe it is. But I never understood like what's written in the stars, I was just thinking like constellations. Yeah. You know. Um but not necessarily that we have a whole ass like Zodiac on a chart. Like astrology Ology chart. Yeah, that correlates to, like, our life's path. I feel like it's like something we wrote for ourselves before incarnating into this life as a crow, like breadcrumbs for ourselves. Like, oh, that's why the saying goes, like it's written in the stars for you. Yeah, like a mini guide, right? Like a mini guide to yourself. But some people don't even know about it. Like there's a chart that you can, you know, go into that tells you. Yeah. Um, I get lost when it's like, oh, it's in your 10th house to the north and me to seven. Yeah. When I tell my chart, like, sorry, I don't understand what you're saying, but this is what I'm telling me the facts. Can you just dumb it down for me? I don't want to know how many houses in my North Star I have. Just tell me what to do. Yeah, Just tell me what to do. But, I mean, it also gets you to to know, like I said, it's gotten. It helped me, like, understand a little bit more about my personality as well, because there is part like your environment and how you grow up, I feel and your beliefs. And then there's part like your, I want to say kind of like your mystical part like your higher self. Right. Like, um, like I said, it's a kind of like a map you laid out before you came to this world. I mean, I if you don't believe in that, that's a different story. But I, I believe in that. Um, and it it helps you understand yourself a little bit and get you closer to, like, the real personality or the real you, the real you that you like were before. Yeah. You know, getting her. Yeah. Before all of the. Programming? Yes. And it all, it all leads us back to programming. And I programmed. They even programmed their emotions. Yes, they did, because, I mean, if you there is there's a lot of, like, news that happens or things that you see on social media or whatever you look at or whatever. Um, even people, even other people that you associate yourself with that feel depressed or, um, sad or mad or angry for anything that's happening in their lives or anything that's happening like in the world. Right? And you just you feel all of the emotions. Yeah. Like, you feel the person's vibe and you feel all of the emotions, and it's like, it's crazy because those are all programmed emotions. Yeah. That come from, like, what? What we were shown on how to react, how to be and how to be. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I know for me, it was a, um. If Mother's Day was a very reflective day for me because. Please tell us. Please. Because I reflected a lot on, um, being a mom, but also. Being the oldest and and being the oldest, you kind of become like a second parent. To your siblings, if you have siblings and there's like this dual maternal role that you play and that you begin like the oldest begins to be a mom at a very young age, and I think it strips them from their innocence. It strips them from, uh, learning to feel those emotions because they can't they have to be strong and they have to, like, support everybody else, even their own parent. And so and in, in those in those years, you learn to like. No, I cannot show weakness. Meaning I can't cry because my mom needs me or because my dad needs me, or because my siblings need me. And if they see me cry, then they're all going to cry. It's this way that you just learn to be because of the fact that you're simply the oldest when it comes to the emotional aspect of things. You also learn how to not express certain emotions because of how you have to be. Being the oldest. And so this Mother's Day, I was very I was reflecting a lot on that and I was super emotional. I think I still am super emotional, uh, because of it. And it's just like, you know, and it was I was giving myself a lot of love on Mother's Day. Um, what exactly were you emotional about? Like what? Being having to be in a that you were a mom because you were, um, the oldest or what exactly made you emotional? I was more emotional about the fact that, uh, for the longest time, not knowing how to actually receive, because for so long in the fact in the fact that I am the oldest, I've had to give of myself to my siblings and to my parents and to my family in general. And so what I was emotional about was the fact that. I never truly knew how to receive and how to take in the praise and the acknowledgement, and even like the honor of being a mom and I. And I was very emotional because of that, because it just like, I don't know, it kind of just hit me like, oh, wow, all this time, like I've had to be this person for all of these people. But I've never truly allowed myself to feel the gratitude in doing that because I saw it as this. Like, I don't know, like I didn't I didn't want to be put in that place in that situation, you know, and but now it's just now I see it differently. But yeah. And I'm talking all over the place now. But it was like I was very emotional because of a lot of things. But. Yeah. Um, but you were feeling emotional because of you having to be put as a, as the oldest child or the first the firstborn, and not only the firstborn, but you were also like the first because like the first in the family, not just your immediate family, but like with your uncles and aunts, like you were the first niece, niece or granddaughter A granddaughter. Yeah. So that kind of even more so. Mhm. Because you're also the elder. Mhm. Um within the family. So like. Yeah. Oh. Your cousins now look up to you even though they have their own siblings. Yeah. Like it's you're kind of put into a higher standard. So you're saying that you felt some type of way because you were put in that position without asking to be put in that position? Yeah. And I was acknowledging that on Sunday for the first time, like just kind of just sitting with it and sitting with all those feelings that I wasn't really able allowed to feel. I wasn't really able to express the sadness or the anger of having to carry all of that responsibility without me asking to handle that responsibility. Yeah. And, um, was that the first time that you really, like, sat with it? Mhm. For like, in all of your life. Yeah. On Sunday. On Sunday you sat with all of that. Yeah. I mean I can understand the emotions. Yeah. Well that's a lot because we don't think about it either, you know? Like, you just go on like, oh, you were the eldest one. Like you were the older sibling. You were the older, the eldest in the family. And it's kind of like. Well. Just live with it. Yeah. Is kind of what we're expected to do. Like, it's an automatic thing, right? Yeah, but it's like, uh. No. That caused me actually a lot of emotions. Suppressed emotions, because you were left with a, um. Essentially, at some point. I mean, not to be not to be, like, dramatic or anything, but like, you were left without a childhood at some point because you were to take care of, like your siblings and you were to take care of. And then mostly because being coming from like immigrated parents that are not really, you know, oriented with the English language, like you had to translate. And I think I speak for everyone, anyone in like, Hispanic or Latino. Yeah. Um, with immigrant parents, we had to translate. And. Yeah, if there was somebody on the phone calling and, like, Guinness. Oh, English. No no no no no no story. And you had to be the translator at seven years old, even though you didn't know, like. Big words and shit or what they were talking about, so I could imagine. And I, and I actually shared this with you as well. Like I always I feel that same thing happened with my sister. Like, she's the oldest one. And I know that my parents had to go to work. Right. So she was the one that was always taking care of us when we were on vacation, and it was up to her to like, clean and make, you know, cook or have our shit put together. Yep. You know, even if we were, like, fighting all the time, like, as kids, you know, we were fighting all the time and stuff. But she had to make sure that everything was done. Prior to my mom being home or I was, my mom was going to start fucking yelling at her or something. Yeah. So her. Yeah. Her. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because she was the eldest. The older one. Yeah. And it's. Yeah I mean I can't imagine like like what that leaves you with because you are left with all of these suppressed emotions of like, why the fuck like why is it my responsibility, you know. And then there and then like, not too long ago, I posted on my story on my sound Healing page on Instagram. Like, oh, here there's a 34 year old woman who has a breakdown and they call it motherhood. But it's not really because it's motherhood or your midlife crisis or any of that stuff. It's really because of all of the suppressed emotions that you've been holding on to that you haven't let out. And I know that's happened to me twice already. Uh, and and I've freaked out like the first time that it happened, because I had never, ever experienced anything like that. And I remember, like, laying on my kids bed because they weren't here. And I remember laying there and I was just like, is this what a panic attack feels like? Right. I remember asking myself that. And, um. Or no, a mental breakdown. Yeah. Yeah. Is this what a breakdown feels like? And, uh. And and it's crazy to me because I had never experienced that before. And I think. You sure you've never experienced that before? And it's like, what do you do from there? Right. Like. And thankfully, I'm glad I know tools to know what to do from there. But there's a lot of people that don't. And they don't know that that's happening, that the breakdowns are happening because you hold on to all the shit. There's times where, like, one little thing can cause you to have a breakdown and you just start crying and you become like, people will be like, what's going on with her? Like she's going crazy or something, right? Yeah, but no, it's a fucking breakdown, dude. Like you've held on too long. Well, uh, for with all those things. And it's time to let them out. Yeah. Yeah. Especially if you're going through, like, a transition to in your life. Like you've gone from, you know, a light. Getting rid of or transforming your life into something else completely. And you're still as in your healing. You're all of these things that you never thought about come up. And I think that's why a lot of people like, don't want to hear this shit. Yeah, there's a lot of people that don't want to hear this shit. I kid you not. And it's just so crazy to me because. And I understand it because I was one of those people before, like, oh, yeah, my healing or whatever, my feelings or my emotions, like I was taught. Fuck your feelings. Just do whatever you have to do. Yeah. And that's what I was taught. Yeah. Like, fuck your feelings. And then I would go into a depression mode and stay up drinking til three in the morning and have to go to work the next day and repeat that same cycle. I would go on a fucking drinking binge because I was trying to forget my feelings. Because I was told to fuck your feelings. Yeah. Fuck whatever you feel, it doesn't matter. You keep going. Yeah. Keep doing whatever you have to do, no matter how you feel. Mhm. And. There's some truth to that. Yes, but at the same time, not if you're doing it every day all the time. But it's going to catch up to you. You're gonna. Yeah, yeah. And that's where you have the fucking mental breakdown. Yeah. Because I feel like I've had a few. Not knowing what they what they've been, but I've gotten into more of a range and just started drinking to numb myself because I didn't want to have this argument in my mind of what I was going through. Yeah. And then I would just feel like I couldn't I didn't understand I had all of these emotions in my head, in my body or whatever, but I was just overthinking and I would just get stuck in these moments. And then I'm like, man, fuck this. And then just go grab, go to the store, get some fucking beers and then just drink and that's it. Yeah. And fucking forget about it. Yeah. And a lot of people in our culture do that. Yeah, my parents did that. Like they would just like, not want to feel shit or they were or they were just finished a fight and they'd be like, I'm going to go to the store and get some beer, right? Instead of like, yeah, what has happened? Yeah. Wait a minute. What just happened? Yeah. I just fucking threw a knife at you. Yeah, I threw a pyramid at your head. Yeah, I got you. I almost just fucking killed you. But you know what? I'm gonna go get some fucking beers. Fuck this shit. Yeah, those are situations I lived through. I didn't throw a pyramid. But it's so true. Like all of these emotions that get built up, we've encountered. Yeah, we've encountered even, like, violent shit because of all of the emotions that get, like, we don't talk about it in our culture. We don't fucking talk about it until this day. We don't talk about it. And whenever you try to, um, it's like it's shut down. It's shut down. Yeah. Like, what are you talking about? The beer. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Um, which is, you know, I, like I said, I completely understand, like, we're not all in our healing path. We're not all understanding of these things, but. Imagine a world where we all share how we were feeling, so we don't have to bottle up all of these emotions. And like, I truly feel like violence would be a lot less than what we experience right now. Especially when you keep adding up to shit, you keep adding up. Like, if you're right now living in America and there's and depending on what you believe, right? Or the things that you follow or the things that you don't, depending on your perspective, you could feel overwhelmed because inflation, you can feel overwhelmed because of the cost of things. You could feel overwhelmed because of, you know, you got laid off and there isn't any work like all of these things that I'm saying or things that I see people like talk about on social media, and they post about people that I know. Yeah, um, that are going through these overwhelming emotions and they share a lot on social media because it's like a way of them getting it out. And if you are going through these things and it's just adding on and adding on to the already like emotions, we have stuck in ourselves because we haven't dealt with the shit. If there is trauma that we went through, if there were things that we experienced that we still feel some type of way over, we're not releasing those emotions and we're just piling on the emotions. And then at the end of the day, you end up in the emergency room, you know, with whatever sickness or illness or pain that you're feeling. But the real reason why you're feeling these things is because of all of the emotions that you store in your body, and you don't let them out accurately, or you just don't know that you have them suppressed so much that they're creating disease in your body. Right? And so many people will say, Nancy, like, that's not how disease happens. Great. It's happened. I like genetics. I was young, like I've had this or whatever. Okay, well, ever since you were young, you've been holding on to shit. And that's what's causing this. Right. And, um, and there's studies about it, like when people have actually start working through all of their shit and their emotions and all of the things, like, their disease goes away, their studies. Yeah. And I wish that more people would believe this. These types of studies in this type of thinking, because it could save so many people. It can. Yeah. We're just so brainwashed to believe that we just have to continue on. And we're so brainwashed to believe, like, fuck your feelings. We don't have time for emotions. Like, we don't have time for us to sit there and heal. And you hear that all the time. I hear that all the time. Or at least I sense it. You know, when you try to have a conversation with somebody about emotional. Well, how does that make you feel? It's like. Well, I don't have time for that. Yeah. What are we gonna go eat? Yeah, and it's crazy to think about, but, like, I understand that not everybody wants to share their story, right? Or maybe they don't feel safe to share their story for whatever reason. But I'm just telling you, like, if if there is some overwhelm, that overwhelm if there is like sickness, if there is like something that you're feeling, it's probably because you have stored emotions that need to be let out. Whether it is fucking screaming into a pillow, whether it is just screaming out loud like fucking go climb a mountain and just scream out loud. Um, whether you do a sound healing sound, but so you could, like, move those emotions out through your body. Reiki. There's like all of these things that people still think like are fucking like voodoo shit. Yeah. And it's like, okay, this is a thing that I would rather, I would rather try it. Yeah. And be like, oh, it didn't work for me. Yeah. And then not try it at all. Right. Because so far, what you're doing right now isn't working. Yeah. So if you're. Yeah, it's a feeling or whatever because I mean I again I'm living like I'm living proof because I was living in that way. I was living numbed, numb to the point where, like I said, I would be depressed and not knowing that I would be depressed. But knowing what I know now, I know that that was what I was feeling and how I was being in the moment of like, literally would just stay up fucking the middle of the week or on a Tuesday. Mhm. Like just stay up drinking till 4:00 in the morning and then having to go and I'm just drinking listening to sad music or something. Because that's how I would cope with all of these feelings that I had no idea how to process, understand or anything. Yeah, I would just be sad. Yeah. And obviously alcohol isn't a fucking depressant. It doesn't help. It makes you even sadder. That's why you have the struggles. Yeah. Because, like, you know. So, like, we fucking grew up listening to this shit, and we listened to just drinking, and then we were told not. Like, why are you crying? Crane. Why the fuck are you crying like this? At least this is my experience. Mhm. Um. And we were told, like, how you're like. We weren't. I didn't even know emotions were a thing. They didn't. You didn't know they existed. No. Like obviously, you know, like you're sad or you're mad or you're angry or whatever. Right. But real like fucking heavy emotions that we carry from the shit that we've encountered and some things that we're not even aware of. Like you, for example, saying that you were feeling emotional on Sunday because of the role you had to play being the eldest child. Mhm. Like those are emotions you've been holding on since you were fucking young. Yeah. And you're what, 34 now. Yeah. Like what the fuck. It's crazy. It is. Yeah. But you have to be aware of this shit. And that's the thing. That's the thing that, like the reason why we continue to have this podcast, the reason why we continue to just fucking move as hard as you guys don't even know, as hard as it's been. Mhm. Um, and it ha like it's. Yeah I'm gonna, I'm gonna get emotional. I don't want to get emotional. You got to get the emotion the emotions episode. As hard as it's been. In this transition of life and like trying and not trying, but actually creating a new life for ourselves and and working on creating a new life for myself and ourselves and a family and the generations to come. And hopefully be, hopefully be like an influence to other people that can resonate with anything that we say and hopefully help them understand that they are more they are way more than what we were taught to be or the trauma we went through. And like, we're just way more than that. We and and I and I, it sucks that it sucks that like it has to be this hard and I. But at the same time I get it. Yeah, I get why it has to be this hard. I understand, like we are literally stepping out of all of the shit. We are. We are stepping out of the box that they put us in. Mhm. And in stepping out of the box that they put us in, it comes with a lot of fucking struggle because a system that they that has been created and the trauma and the social like our society and, and all of the shit that has been created is so like ingrained. Like I mentioned this before, it's so crazy to me how people from in, in Latin America, like in Mexican, um, Salvadorian like every like they're even actually, you know, I, I take that back anywhere, like any, um, any like Grace or whatever. You see a lot of similarities and a lot of things that, like a Hispanic person went through or whatever, like the mom yelling or whatever the fuck, like you see it across like you people from different races could relate to it. Yeah. Because this is a system that we were put into. Yeah. And we all kind of experiencing the same shit. Mhm. Because we were put in this system to just be like stay in line and not talk about our shit and blah blah blah. And the moment somebody. Brings in the idea of like, hey, why don't we talk about it? Mhm. Well, they want you to go into a fucking therapist office and talk to just one person for an hour and then that's it. Yeah. Like no boo boo. What the fuck? Like, we just need to all talk about it. Yeah. We just need to all, like, let our shit known. We need to let everybody know how we're feeling. And if they're not receptive to it, fuck it. That they're. That person is not supposed to be in your life, right? And it's crazy to me how difficult and hard it is to step outside of the norm, because it's like it's a fucking battle. Mhm. And I get it like a lot of people go back to the norm, the norm because it's very hard to live outside of that. Yeah it really is because and that's, and that's when sometimes you have to like for me I've always had to choose my family because my family hasn't been my family. It's been people outside of my blood family that are my actual family. And I've had to choose them because because they understand me and because I can be like, dude, this is what's going on, right? And I can be open with them. But with my family, I can't be like that. And it's just like this. That's why it's so difficult, because the ones that we truly love, and the ones that we think are supposed to be there for us. Are there for us to a certain extent. Yeah. And then after that, like they're like, for me, I'm like, there's more though. Like we could be there for each other more, but there's a line. Yeah. And like one of my cousins, I was talking to him the other day. Mhm. And I was talking to him um, and I'm like bro you haven't even listened to my podcast. Like what the hell. Mhm. Uh or our podcast. I always say my podcast. Um, and I told them I'm like you haven't even listened to the podcast. Like what the hell? And then, um, he's he made a comment. Uh, he said, uh, it's because I don't want to hear, like, I don't want to hear some shit that I like. Like, don't want that. Don't need to hear something like that. And I'm like, what? But I get it. Yeah. Like, he doesn't want to hear the real stuff. The real shit. Yeah. And it's literally what I just talked about. Yeah. And this is, mind you, like a very close person to me. Mhm. And that person's like, ah it's because I don't want to hear like well don't listen to it. But at least fucking like don't hear it. At least play it to give me a like to give us you know some a download like fuck at least support in that way. Right bro. Yeah. But it's funny because it's like. It's like. Like it. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. You know, and you're right. Like the closest people to us. Like, it's it's very hard. It makes it even harder. Yeah. Um, to maneuver because you, you still kind of have these conversations with them, right? That you wish to have so badly in that connection because they're the people you love. They're the people you chose to be your family in this lifetime. Yeah. And you can't really have those connections with them. Mhm. So it's crazy. It really is. And that's why I do what I do like her work is because it's you know, you made a comment about how um for you like you had these emotions and you would like numb them through substances and then, but you didn't realize that's what was going on for you. And for me, I intellectualize everything. I was a super, like thinker over, like, logical and like, this doesn't make sense though, right? And. Like you were trying to figure out why. Intellectual. Yeah. Always why. And still to this day. Yeah. Why that right. Yeah. Yeah. And and I catch myself like, why do I have to know why. And but but all my life it's been, I've had to be in my head to protect myself and to protect my siblings and to protect, try to protect my cousins. Right. And I've always had to think ahead and think of the next plan and think of the next step. And, um, and I get it now that that happened because I was trying to protect myself, but now I'm trying to reverse that. Yeah. And I have to a certain point. And that's why now all of these emotions are like flooding my body. And I'm just like, whoa. Yeah. Like, this is what it feels to feel. And that's why I do the work that I do, because there's so many people out there that, uh, Are the same way. They just think their thought, their emotions. They go to therapy and there's nothing wrong with going to therapy. I understand that, but they go to therapy, they intellectualize it. They're like, oh, so that's why I'm feeling the way I'm feeling, right? But you're not really feeling the feeling. So you're just think you're feeling the feeling. And that's how where I was at, I thought I was feeling the feeling, but I really wasn't. Because now that I'm feeling the feelings, I'm like, oh, this is what it feels like. And so. Well, I think that's I think that's the the difference is when you do go talk to a therapist. And again, there's nothing wrong with talking to a therapist. That's like a good step. But when you talk to them, I feel like subconsciously you're just thinking that you're leaving your problems there with your therapist. Like, oh, I talked about them with my therapist. And then you think that that's the that you don't have to do anything else, but like, I left my problems there with the therapist. She got it. She told me to. Maybe this. Or maybe that. Whatever. But no. Like it's the opposite of that. It's the. I'm going to let them out. Talk. Talk about them out loud. Yeah, but then you have to internalize. And you have to ask yourself the hard questions. Like why? Like. Oh, shit. What did what did me saying this out loud make me feel like. Oh, I felt this way. Like, oh, I still feel this way because of the trauma that I went through or an incident that I went through, or because of this person, and they might have been a narcissist, or they might have hurt you and they might have broken your heart. Whatever the case may be, that you still have to go inwards and ask yourself the questions of like, why did I feel this way when I talk about them? Why do I feel this way when I. Remember the situation and you still have to do your internal work. And that's the part that doesn't happen. Yep. It's skipped, which is the somatic part. Right. The energetic aspect of it. And I and I actually see a shift happening within the therapist world where a lot of therapists are becoming somatic informed therapists, and they are now understanding the importance of the somatic aspect of things. And it makes me so happy. Yeah. Because I'm like, yay! People are actually going to get all of the help in one session, right? Yeah, you're talking about it and you're moving the emotions out of your body. Yeah. Which is what needs to happen. Mhm. Yeah. Which is crazy. Yeah. But anyways we were all over the place, so I, uh thank you if you listened this far. Yeah. But we were all over the place with this one. It was a very emotional roller coaster. Yeah. Roller coaster episode. I think it's just the biggest deal because emotions is obviously, you know, one of the, like, the way that we humanly react to different situations and. If you just move passed by it and never really like deal with it, you know, you're left living a life of, um. I feel like it's emptiness. Yeah. Like you. Yeah. Like you're just surviving. Like you're just surviving. And you just have to keep going and you have to keep going. But I think the minute that you give yourself the time to really feel the things and let those emotions out or shared or whatever you have, whatever works for you. Right. I think the moment that you do do that, you start living a life of joy and you start living a life of play, and you start remembering like who you really are, and you come back to yourself and releasing the emotions that has kept you trapped and paralyzed, you know, as long as they have. And and I, I'm saying this from experience. I'm saying this and sharing this because. Like I said, I was living that way. I was living trapped. I was living just numbing myself. And the moment I started to do really the work and listening to myself and realizing how I felt about different things that have happened to me in my life and really, like, done the work to, to to feel like the pain and feel the emotions and let the emotions out and cry and whatever I had to do. Scream it out. Breathe it out. It's a it's life changing. Yeah. You you truly do live from a different like you. You live differently. For sure you do. Yeah. So let them out. Let them out, guys. Don't just think and talk. Let them out, buddy. Once again, guys, thank you for listening. If you gain something or feel inclined to share this episode, please do so. Go to our Instagram Deep Dive In podcast. That's dive in the I v I n and connect with us there. Comment share. Post. We appreciate the support so much and we will catch you on the next one.