412: Transcending + Including In Relationship with Devout LDS Siblings

Series Title: Transcending + Including in "Real Life": Listener Experiences [Part III of III]

In this episode Nathan gets personal about some special experiences he has had building bridges of love and understanding with his devout LDS siblings even though they are differ in many ways in belief and practice.  He shares some fundamental principles that have guided him, most importantly: dignifying their goodness over any ideological different, being curious instead of judgmental, and being sensitive to their cues when he feels that their conversations have exceeded their windows of tolerance that might threaten their identities too much. 

In the end, Val & Nathan talk about the power of surrendering our need to fix people and leaning into the drive for growth that already exists within each of us and can be activated when we stay in engaged in loving, dignifying dialogue.  

Timestamps:

00:00 Welcome and Setup

00:55 Transcend and Include

01:52 Why Integration Matters

03:12 Sibling Spectrum Story

05:16 Family Background

06:28 Reconnecting After Distance

07:42 Starting the Group Chats

11:43 From Small Talk to Depth

12:59 Staying Safe and Consistent

16:15 Handling Discomfort Signals

17:48 Priesthood Ban Example

23:13 Premises Love and Universalism

23:59 Gentle Nudges Toward Growth

25:33 Politics and Radical Inclusion

26:26 Curiosity Builds Trust

29:27 Letting Go of Outcomes

32:47 Community Without Conformity

35:04 Resigning From the Church

38:01 Rebuilding Social Capital

41:07 A Healthier Baptism Frame

44:31 Choosing When to Push Back

50:11 Strategic Compassion in Dialogue

52:11 Closing Reflections and Grace