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2 Dummies That Just Watch: A Sports Podcast Between Friends
36. Who's the Bridge QB for the Giants, Jets?
With the 2024 NFL season now behind us, it's time to look ahead a bit and figure out what's in store for New Jers...um, New York football. Both the Giants and Jets are in the market for new quarterbacks, with each team having a unique situation. The 2 Dummies gives their picks for future QBs in New York.
Elsewhere, Eli Manning is potentially a candidate to buy a 10% stake in the New York Giants. He won't be able to do that alone, but it would make perfect sense if he owned a piece of the team.
Our halftime focuses on another holiday LeeJay hates: Valentine's Day!
On the other side of the break, the 2 Dummies go on a basketball run discussing the NBA All-Star Weekend, St. John's men's basketball, and Duke's Cooper Flagg.
MLB Spring Training is about to be in full gear, and we break down some news out of Florida.
And finally, we have some confusion over out Mt. Rushmore this week, but it all worked out. Please enjoy!
Timestamps
0:00: A lot of opening shenanigans! (LeeJay's cooking; Captain America; Americans hate America)
35:30: Who's the bridge QB for the Giants and Jets?
59:42: Eli Manning, Giants minority owner?
1:05:14: LeeJay hates Valentine's Day!
1:13:49: Get rid of NBA All-Star Weekend.
1:26:38: Cooper Flagg is the real deal.
1:31:54: St. John's update.
1:38:56: Yankees, Mets in Florida!
1:53:26: A Mt. Rushmore of Confusion!
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00:00:01.09
William Hernandez
Greetings and salutations, and welcome back to Two Dummies That Just Watch, a sports podcast between friends. This is episode number 36.
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William Hernandez
I am one of your hosts, as always, Will Hernandez, and I am joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Lee J. Perilla, looking toasty today with his hood up.
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William Hernandez
What's the hat do you have on there, sir? What's going on?
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LJ
Tampa Bay spring training hat.
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William Hernandez
i Oh. Yeah, it's funny because Eric texted me yesterday and apparently his size in the Mets hat, the Mets spring training one, they don't have his size.
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LJ
Mm-hmm.
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William Hernandez
So he's like, ah he wants you to try to find it for him over here. But I'm like, i don't really go out.
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William Hernandez
The problem is there's not a lids around here either. Like the closest, yeah, I think the closest lids is at the Poughkeepsie at the Galleria.
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LJ
that That too.
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William Hernandez
So, I think. I don't know.
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LJ
There's one in... um I don't know if it's still there.
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William Hernandez
What's the closest one here?
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LJ
um
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William Hernandez
Is it one in Middletown?
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LJ
but i guess you call that the Middletown Mall.
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William Hernandez
Or no?
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William Hernandez
Oh, see, I don't really... That's where I went to...
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LJ
If you go... From what I remember, it's right by the food court. That's if it's even still there. it's When you go to the food court, it's like to the right of the food court, I guess. It's like a little small lidge. It's very small.
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William Hernandez
Interesting. Yeah, i was...
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LJ
that's Like I said, that's even if it's still there because... haven't been over there in a while.
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William Hernandez
Yeah, I was ah had to actually go to the dentist in Middletown. ah That was a fun experience. Getting a cleaning. For anyone who's had to get a deep cleaning, because I have gum problems, so I get like... We're going to get a little gross here.
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William Hernandez
Plaque buildup, more easily and than the normal person, it's a problem. Like an hour... an hour in that chair with your mouth wide open.
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LJ
know ah Yo, hey, yo, yo, chill.
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William Hernandez
It's not fun at all. It's not fun.
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LJ
Whoa.
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William Hernandez
And you know what the funny thing is about like this dentist? It's like, listen, I'm going to be honest. I'm not the best flosser in the world. I'm i'm just not. So when the dentist was asking me about it, was like, yeah, I'm not good about it. I'm not going to lie to you.
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William Hernandez
You see the evidence is right there on the fucking screen, on the x-rays.
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LJ
He's trying to set you up.
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William Hernandez
Yeah, he sort of set me up.
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LJ
He sent you up cause he knows damn well that you don't floss.
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William Hernandez
It's horrible.
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LJ
Come on, dude. Let's not play with each other here.
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William Hernandez
But the the funny thing is is that you know you do the deep cleaning and I was telling this to Lee Jay after I was done. Apparently they can put antibiotic like little pills into your gums.
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William Hernandez
No idea you can do this. No fucking clue that you can do this. And the reason why they had to do this for me is because you know how you have like the pockets your gums come together with the tooth?
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William Hernandez
Because Because my pockets were were deep, the antibiotic the antibiotics are supposed to help like heal that. But the funny thing is is that I can't floss for two weeks.
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William Hernandez
So the irony in that I'm in this situation because I'm not a good flosser, and now they're like, no, you can't floss for two weeks because you you could knock out the antibiotics under in your gums. Anyway, what ah what a fucking process that – of course insurance didn't cover all of it.
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William Hernandez
So, because why would it? Why would insurance cover all of that? You know?
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LJ
Bend over, Sam.
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William Hernandez
Bro, it was like $3,000 I owe. Like, are you fucking? It's fucking crazy.
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LJ
Please put me on a payment plan. Thank you.
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William Hernandez
Oh, they did. Yeah, they did. i need that right now because the way shit's going right now.
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LJ
i now They didn't pay insurance. They didn't insurance didn't pay on. You have to pay $3,000. How much was the goddamn bill?
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William Hernandez
No, so the way they did it the way they did it was they had my insurance, and I think the procedure itself was like $5,000 and change.
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LJ
Christ.
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William Hernandez
And insurance covered like, ah yeah, not even half of that.
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LJ
Not even half.
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William Hernandez
It's just like, why do I have insurance? Like, what the fuck is the point here? Fucking scam. Anyway, I'm not going to, let's not start getting into that because
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LJ
Giving you the straight freaking reach around. to Get out here. ah Take a walk.
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William Hernandez
it's, yeah, yeah. um Sir, how was your weekend? How did all the cooking cooking go yesterday?
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LJ
Yesterday, went i think i think it went well yesterday. Yeah, it was fine. It was fine. I just never did anything like that before. so And then... Here in the second bedroom, there's a leak coming from the roof.
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William Hernandez
oh no. Are you serious?
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LJ
I'm looking at it right now, and it's gotten worse. The ceiling's starting to peel. There's a hole in the ceiling, a small hole that I know that continues to become a bigger hole. There's all bubbles along both sides of wall.
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LJ
It's a nightmare.
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William Hernandez
ah
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William Hernandez
I'm assuming he's got to fix that.
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LJ
I had a call out last night because I thought the thing was going to cave in. The problem is with this, it happens with the snow, but the snow... You know, that's a buildup, so it takes a little longer.
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William Hernandez
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
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LJ
The rain is just a constant water. It's like the faucet's on. So it's going from the roof, skipping the third floor and coming into us.
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William Hernandez
Hmm.
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LJ
So he's on vacation right now, but he's got a, I don't got, I don't mind.
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William Hernandez
Oh, shit. Yeah.
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LJ
He's going to fix it. Like he's a couple of months we've been here.
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William Hernandez
Yeah.
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LJ
He's been awesome. Like I can't, he's been, he's been really good about it.
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William Hernandez
Yeah.
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LJ
um It's just that he's got to find somebody to go to the root first, figure out that problem first there, and then do the room. Because you can't, you do it the other the way around, that's ass backwards.
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William Hernandez
Yeah.
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LJ
Because you got to figure out the leak first.
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William Hernandez
Yeah, exactly.
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LJ
Seal it however going to do it. That prevents the leak, then come here and then, I guess, repaint. And then he's going to have just, it's Chinese to me or what different language, because I don't know what the he has to do.
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LJ
Cover it up, whatever. Just do what you got to do. I don't know what to tell you.
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William Hernandez
Yeah, it's funny because I had a – when I was living in Chicago, there was a situation where the woman's bathroom above me, ah the woman that was living above me, her bathroom was right above my bathroom.
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William Hernandez
And she had a leak and the whole fucking thing. They basically had to come in and like take the ceiling off and redo the whole fucking ceiling.
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LJ
Yeah, I knew someone and that they eventually it started as a little drip in their bathroom.
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William Hernandez
Yeah.
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LJ
They went to work, came back, their whole ceiling was caved in. Oh, you can see the boards
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William Hernandez
Yeah.
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William Hernandez
that's like That's like the fucking...
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LJ
in their ceiling because they had no ceiling.
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William Hernandez
Dude, I was taking showers at the gym because like I couldn't take a shower.
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LJ
I was like, is this woman's like bathtub going to end up down? Yeah.
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William Hernandez
Jesus, bro. That's some scary shit. By the way, just just for the people, because you were talking about yesterday, so the people are aware, it was Mel's birthday and she had a bunch of people over and you decided to play cook.
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LJ
adal
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LJ
Chef Pepe.
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William Hernandez
So...
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William Hernandez
Explain to me what you made yesterday. I want to hear it.
00:07:06.95
LJ
um Let's see. So I had first of all, I had to like figure this out of my head. I was going to do because you can't do it. Everything. When everybody starts to get there, you can't do that.
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William Hernandez
Right. Yes. Yes.
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LJ
So what did I start doing first? All right. started I started making the turkey bacon.
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William Hernandez
Okay. Okay.
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LJ
We wound up going to Costco getting like the some big bulk stuff. That being one, wind up cooking all of that in one shot. That took whatever.
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William Hernandez
Jesus. Yeah.
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LJ
We also bought like these big platter, like these dishes. And we just like set different things on it to make it separate.
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William Hernandez
Aha.
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LJ
You know what i mean?
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William Hernandez
Yeah.
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LJ
Boom, did that. um After that, I cut up like some vegetables and stuff, stuff that people could have put in their omelet that I was going to make to order.
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William Hernandez
Gotcha. OK. So you made the Amos to order. OK.
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LJ
to order because I didn't want eggs in the microwave.
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William Hernandez
Yeah, that makes sense.
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LJ
That sounds...
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William Hernandez
Yeah, that's yeah that's ghetto.
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LJ
um Then I said, all right, I bought a waffle maker. I was going to make waffles. That turned out to be...
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William Hernandez
Oh, shit.
00:08:07.39
LJ
It didn't work out because I didn't have i didn't have a ladle.
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William Hernandez
Did not work. Oh,
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LJ
I forgot I didn't have a ladle.
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William Hernandez
oh okay.
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LJ
Just scoop the batter and run it around the waffle maker.
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William Hernandez
Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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LJ
So I had to pivot. So I wound making pancakes.
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William Hernandez
Got it. Okay, that's just as good.
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LJ
And then everybody else just bought stuff and I was making margaritas as well.
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William Hernandez
Of course you are.
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LJ
ah And then, bro, there was so much liquor here. I'm surprised how many bottles, the least of amount of bottles that are left. I'll put it that way.
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William Hernandez
Oh, really?
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LJ
those I should have took pictures. There was so much liquor here. Then everybody bought some kind of ah food or dessert. Some people bought like different dishes from... This one girl bought like some kind of like cake from her country.
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William Hernandez
so interesting.
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LJ
Um, that was, it it was actually almost gone when when everyone left. They said it was pretty, I didn't get a chance to have it. Um, Sam bought Mel, uh, a birthday cake.
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LJ
Um,
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LJ
what else was here? The people brought chicken, empanadas, a charcuterie board.
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William Hernandez
Of course.
00:09:15.20
LJ
Yeah, bro. There was so much stuff here, bro. There was so much stuff. I'm surprised that it was actually, I was expecting to have like food for a few days. There's no food left. I scoured that refrigerator.
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William Hernandez
Damn.
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LJ
I put everything away last night and I was like, there's no food left? What the F? I thought there was going something left, but it doesn't matter anyway because I can't eat for until tomorrow after 11, so it doesn't matter.
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William Hernandez
Yeah, because you're you've got... Do we want to talk about this?
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LJ
Yeah, I don't give a shit. it's it's It's part of life.
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William Hernandez
Yeah, you don't give a shit.
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LJ
This stuff doesn't burn.
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William Hernandez
Yeah, that's...
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LJ
Yeah. ah I have a colonoscopy tomorrow.
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William Hernandez
Oh, God.
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LJ
At 11 a.m.
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William Hernandez
I haven't done one of those yet.
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LJ
So yeah, you have to be, not a now it's not 50 anymore for a minute, it's 45.
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William Hernandez
Oh, shit. I guess I better get that done.
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LJ
Yeah, it's 45.
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William Hernandez
I'm 46 now.
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LJ
And it's been delayed twice already because there's been, um ah apparently the doctors had an emergency. So hopefully now I don't get any phone call.
00:10:08.15
William Hernandez
That sounds fun.
00:10:08.68
LJ
And I just wanted to read one thing off this thing.
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William Hernandez
Yes, please. This is for the like that that thing you have to drink?
00:10:15.75
LJ
No, no, no, no, no.
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William Hernandez
Okay.
00:10:16.59
LJ
That thing, I'm not i'm dreading that.
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William Hernandez
Okay.
00:10:17.75
LJ
I got to drink that. at i got ah The first dose is at 4 p.m.
00:10:21.01
William Hernandez
Oh, God. Okay.
00:10:21.77
LJ
Everybody told me that stuff is terrible. but I'm just, the day, here it goes. It goes, the day of the procedure. You are allowed to brush your teeth and w rinse your mouth on the morning of your procedure.
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LJ
procedure Okay, fine.
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William Hernandez
Okay.
00:10:34.83
LJ
here's the Here's the next thing that just made me start thinking because you know how my mind is.
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William Hernandez
Yes. Yes.
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LJ
Please make an effort to be well cleaned.
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William Hernandez
You mean your ass, basically.
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LJ
And I'm saying to myself, what animals have gone there and haven't washed their ass?
00:10:53.48
William Hernandez
No, dude, come on. that You have to ask that?
00:10:56.11
LJ
Yes, I do, because you can't be, you cannot, like...
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William Hernandez
Come on, bro.
00:11:00.17
LJ
bro you're going to get your ass checked.
00:11:05.31
LJ
I'm scrubbing tomorrow morning, bro. I may take two showers before I go over there.
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William Hernandez
i
00:11:11.96
LJ
We have to tell people this stuff?
00:11:13.64
William Hernandez
Yes, you do. Yes, you absolutely do.
00:11:14.87
LJ
God...
00:11:17.87
William Hernandez
Bro, have you been on the subway?
00:11:19.29
LJ
My God, bro.
00:11:19.35
William Hernandez
Come on.
00:11:22.14
LJ
Like, we're we're telling we're still telling people how to wash their ass? Or that you have to wash your ass?
00:11:25.64
William Hernandez
It's funny. bet you have to watch giraffes.
00:11:29.69
LJ
but Make sure you don't take the dump before you come here and just leave it like that.
00:11:29.96
William Hernandez
Holy shit.
00:11:35.45
LJ
Come on,
00:11:37.78
William Hernandez
Bro, you'd be surprised, man.
00:11:40.33
LJ
Here comes a dive. Let me go. look Oh, what the hell did this guy have? We got a mudslide back here.
00:11:46.16
William Hernandez
come on. That's not right.
00:11:49.46
LJ
Yo, come on, bro. Golly. Anyway.
00:11:54.15
William Hernandez
that' this That's disgusting. Well, good luck with that. Wait, so you're not youre not going to work tonight then because you're to be shitting your brains out, no Yeah, that's what I thought.
00:11:59.70
LJ
No, I got it. No, I can't. I can't. look
00:12:03.45
William Hernandez
yeah, yeah.
00:12:03.91
LJ
But you got to take the drink one at five and then the other one is like eight hours before the...
00:12:04.22
William Hernandez
Okay. So no wonder why we're recording now. Dude.
00:12:09.40
LJ
Yeah, bro.
00:12:09.53
William Hernandez
Dude.
00:12:10.00
LJ
At five o'clock? Come on, man. That would have been embarrassing. be like, yo, I'll be back. Yo, I'll be back. would have went to Walgreens and bought like a little baby toilet, a little travel baby toilet.
00:12:21.26
LJ
And I would have just been recording closer to the ground.
00:12:21.46
William Hernandez
so Oh, doubt no, no, no. and That reminds me of, did you ever see the South Park episode where they're playing World of Warcraft and Eric Cartman, it's a bunch of them are in Eric Cartman's basement and they can't leave because they're in a big battle.
00:12:31.89
LJ
no
00:12:39.49
William Hernandez
So, and Eric's got to take a shit. So his mother comes with one of those like little bedpans and he just drops his pants and like diarrhea's into the fucking bedpan.
00:12:44.57
LJ
Yeah.
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LJ
they There you go.
00:12:49.50
William Hernandez
Yeah.
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LJ
There you go.
00:12:51.83
William Hernandez
Holy shit. That's a great episode, by the way. ah I wanted to touch upon one thing because I saw Captain America on Friday.
00:13:01.82
LJ
Are you talking about that?
00:13:02.11
William Hernandez
How nice.
00:13:02.54
LJ
Cause I got something else. that I got something to talk about before we jump, before we jump, before we jump into it's real quick.
00:13:04.17
William Hernandez
oh yes. Go ahead. there we Go ahead. Yes. Yes.
00:13:07.49
LJ
So I was listening to, uh, so, uh,
00:13:07.69
William Hernandez
yes
00:13:10.31
LJ
you know You already know who they are. Jerry Recco and Al Dukes from WFAN.
00:13:13.13
William Hernandez
Yes.
00:13:13.68
LJ
They do their own podcast in the morning before the ah like the Boomer show and all of that.
00:13:18.53
William Hernandez
Uh-huh.
00:13:18.59
LJ
And I listen to that because they're actually quite funny. they They do their show pretty well. So Jerry was talking about, I believe a couple of weekends ago, maybe whatever. He went to a restaurant for his son's birthday, right? He was expecting to spend a lot of money, whatever.
00:13:33.42
LJ
I think he might said he wanted to spend in like five something on the bill. But he started talking about particular... We can all relate to this because we all see this stuff and blah, blah, blah.
00:13:41.74
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:13:41.81
LJ
He didn't mention the restaurant because I was like, mention the restaurant cause I will never go there.
00:13:45.60
William Hernandez
Oh no, here we go.
00:13:46.30
LJ
So he talked about these three particular things that he that he wound up getting.
00:13:51.05
William Hernandez
Okay.
00:13:52.17
LJ
And o other people ordered as well that was at the dinner. A tartufo. I think it's like an Italian dessert. If you see it, you're going be like, oh, I've seen that before. It's like shelled.
00:14:02.41
LJ
It's like in a chocolate shell.
00:14:03.41
William Hernandez
Do you know how to spell that?
00:14:03.45
LJ
It's like ice cream or gelato or something in there. ah it's it's called It's spelled T-A-R-T-U-F-O.
00:14:06.31
William Hernandez
R2... T-A-R... T-U-F... Oh, yes.
00:14:14.18
LJ
Right?
00:14:14.26
William Hernandez
Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:14:16.10
LJ
Some people... You know how much that was?
00:14:17.83
William Hernandez
I've seen this.
00:14:20.99
William Hernandez
Don't tell me. I'm looking at it now.
00:14:22.67
LJ
Oh, there's the price there? Shit.
00:14:24.38
William Hernandez
it's not a pricey. I'm just looking at, like...
00:14:25.19
LJ
Okay, you're just looking at it.
00:14:25.82
William Hernandez
Because it's small. I'm going to say... His bill was 500, right? Do we know how many people were in the party?
00:14:36.40
LJ
uh that i don't he probably said but i don't this just these things just the last thing i'm about to tell you really jumped out at me because i've never seen it before but these two from these these first two for me were pricey
00:14:36.65
William Hernandez
He didn't say.
00:14:43.43
William Hernandez
Okay. um
00:14:46.90
William Hernandez
I'm going to say this was like $25.
00:14:48.87
LJ
no no no that's way too high uh 16 bucks it's not that far but still it's further away besides that some people order cheesecake how much was a slice of cheesecake
00:14:50.50
William Hernandez
okay. $9. Okay. That's expensive. That's a lot. Okay. nine dollars okay that's that's it that's a lot okay
00:15:02.01
William Hernandez
Oh, shit. I would say 12.
00:15:06.90
William Hernandez
Holy shit.
00:15:09.89
LJ
Now, he just was...
00:15:09.95
William Hernandez
Damn.
00:15:10.49
LJ
Now, these now this next one, bloom I've never seen this, bro. You tell me if you've seen this before. I've never seen this on the menu yet.
00:15:16.26
William Hernandez
Okay.
00:15:17.18
LJ
he him He himself, he was talking about what he ordered drink-wise. He ordered two Casamigos, just straight-up Casamigos.
00:15:21.79
William Hernandez
Oh, drink. Okay. Yep. Ah.
00:15:25.75
LJ
he got the He got the bill.
00:15:27.09
William Hernandez
Drink that Okay.
00:15:28.54
LJ
He sees the Casamigos. How much were the Casamigos? He said, all right, Casamigos, whatever, that's the price. How much were those?
00:15:35.23
William Hernandez
That's like top shelf, right?
00:15:37.23
LJ
I would say so.
00:15:37.56
William Hernandez
Is that, does that consider top shelf?
00:15:39.49
LJ
i guess.
00:15:40.83
William Hernandez
How many ounces? Like four?
00:15:42.37
LJ
Probably a little glass like that, maybe six ounces they put they give you.
00:15:43.35
William Hernandez
Four to six?
00:15:47.51
William Hernandez
Everything here is very expensive already. I'm going to say they were like 40 bucks a pop.
00:15:54.11
LJ
So each one was 16, 32. So 32.
00:15:56.92
William Hernandez
So just, to okay.
00:15:56.98
LJ
Oh no, not each. Just the Casamigos was 16 each. He was like, fine.
00:16:00.76
William Hernandez
16 each.
00:16:00.91
LJ
He's yeah.
00:16:01.49
William Hernandez
Okay.
00:16:01.76
LJ
He's paid.
00:16:02.28
William Hernandez
That's, that's not terrible.
00:16:02.85
LJ
He's he's paid. He said he's paid cheaper, but that wasn't the problem. He said he looked below that.
00:16:06.63
William Hernandez
Okay.
00:16:09.70
William Hernandez
They charged an extra fee, didn't they?
00:16:11.13
LJ
They charge a $4 fee for each drink. What was it for? That's my question to you.
00:16:19.34
William Hernandez
what the... What was the fee for?
00:16:21.40
LJ
Each one now, $4 each extra. So now the drink was $20 because it is $4 fee on each one.
00:16:27.95
William Hernandez
Either it was the glass or to pop open a corkage fee.
00:16:34.76
LJ
Fair guesses.
00:16:35.97
William Hernandez
Okay.
00:16:36.69
LJ
It said rocks $4. four dollars
00:16:40.99
William Hernandez
They charge it for ice. Wow. Are you fucking serious?
00:16:47.63
LJ
That's what he said. And I don't, why what you was He has no reason to lie, and I believe that.
00:16:55.95
William Hernandez
That's... I've never heard of that before.
00:16:58.86
LJ
Yep. Yep.
00:17:02.18
William Hernandez
And he didn't say what the restaurant was, did he?
00:17:04.09
LJ
No, I don't... If I missed it, I missed it, but I don't think he mentioned the restaurant.
00:17:08.50
William Hernandez
Probably a good idea.
00:17:11.45
LJ
Serious, I would never go there. I mean, he lives in Jersey, but... I've seen places that I've seen on these food shows. I say, you know what? I drive over there. only a half an hour. The food looks good. They got good ratings. Bro, you charge me for ice?
00:17:24.25
LJ
Come on, man.
00:17:25.40
William Hernandez
That's insane.
00:17:26.68
LJ
How many people would last if they actually charged for ice? Bar, restaurant, and they knew they were doing this. People go back? I would never go back there. Never.
00:17:34.58
William Hernandez
Yeah, because they they probably don't even have that on their menu somewhere that they charge for ice. And then all of a sudden you get the fucking bill. it's like, what is this?
00:17:40.74
LJ
No, and that's that's the way he the way he described it because he was shocked when he saw that.
00:17:45.62
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:17:45.63
LJ
He didn't know that. they didn't put that on the menu.
00:17:49.08
William Hernandez
That's some shady shit.
00:17:51.47
LJ
You got yours for ice, baby.
00:17:53.99
William Hernandez
i can I can... I mean, the only thing I've ever been charged for like something like that is... You know, because sometimes when you um get wine, they sometimes they charge a cor cork fee.
00:18:05.72
LJ
i've heard i've heard I've heard that before.
00:18:06.62
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
00:18:09.11
LJ
I don't drink wine, but I've heard that before.
00:18:12.01
William Hernandez
yeah, yeah. Yeah,
00:18:15.90
William Hernandez
that's... and That's crazy. Wow.
00:18:21.12
William Hernandez
Fucking eggs, ice. Cock-in credit card surcharge.
00:18:27.48
LJ
theyre go to Next time the new search is going to be just for you to walk into the supermarket.
00:18:31.28
William Hernandez
Jesus Christ, bro. Dude, I told you when I went to the Trader Joe's by my mom's, they were limiting it to just one carton of eggs. And when you told me that they were doing that by you, I'm like, but can we at least do two?
00:18:44.39
William Hernandez
The thing was, though,
00:18:45.56
LJ
Well, if you go to BJ's or Costco's, you'll get technically two.
00:18:49.15
William Hernandez
yes, right, because they come in a package.
00:18:50.36
LJ
Depending on which which one you... Yeah, because my friend told me, too, they're only allowing you to buy one pack or case, whatever you want to call it.
00:18:52.08
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah.
00:18:56.58
William Hernandez
Thing? Yeah, but it comes, yeah. um
00:19:01.60
William Hernandez
The thing was is that their eggs were relatively cheap. They were only like three and change. So i can see I can see why they were telling people only only one.
00:19:08.17
LJ
Yeah, because you got that one douchebag... douchebag It's the same douchebag that goes to the laundromat and takes up all the fucking dryers. Like no one else is in the laundromat.
00:19:19.94
LJ
And they'll buy all the eggs.
00:19:22.09
William Hernandez
Dude, I'm watching this lady. This is a woman, by the way, just to let you guys know. I'm getting, I'm looking, you know, I'm opening the cart the cart to see to make sure they're not cracked. So I get my one.
00:19:32.67
LJ
Everyone does that.
00:19:33.76
William Hernandez
Yeah. ah So I get my, I'm like, okay, I'm here. might as well. I need eggs. Only one. Fine. Whatever. This woman's in front of me, bro. The sign. If you look behind me like the bookcase, the sign was as, it was as long as, as wide as this.
00:19:50.50
LJ
and it was probably getting yellow, right?
00:19:51.93
William Hernandez
And it was like, yeah, For people with a visual, the bookcases, I don't know. The shelf is like two feet across, maybe even three. That's how big the sign was.
00:20:02.64
William Hernandez
Right in your face, eye level. This woman was just taking one carton of eggs. I watched her put it in her cart. Looking around. Takes another carton eggs, puts it in her cart.
00:20:14.25
William Hernandez
Looks around. Takes a third one and puts it in her cart. And I'm like, is this? So I watched her. I watched her in the store. Finally, she went up to the front.
00:20:25.39
LJ
good
00:20:25.64
William Hernandez
oh, ma'am, guess what happened? Oh, ma'am, sorry, this only... She started of making think about it.
00:20:31.13
LJ
Yeah, she was going to try to make a reasoning.
00:20:32.55
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:20:32.73
LJ
I got like 17 kids at home.
00:20:35.05
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:20:36.21
LJ
No one cares.
00:20:36.25
William Hernandez
she didn't look like She didn't look like she was somebody who had kids, by the way.
00:20:38.88
LJ
Oh, my God.
00:20:39.05
William Hernandez
Just FYI.
00:20:39.76
LJ
Okay, let's move let's move on.
00:20:40.66
William Hernandez
ah But, like, come on!
00:20:41.04
LJ
Captain America.
00:20:43.99
LJ
Let's move on. Yeah,
00:20:44.83
William Hernandez
ah But the thing is, then the workers gotta bring the fucking other two containers back to the fridge.
00:20:49.01
LJ
it's a waste of time. You already touched those eggs.
00:20:52.25
William Hernandez
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
00:20:52.71
LJ
Does anyone probably want to take those eggs because you touched those eggs? That was probably like, she was like, oh, you know what? Maybe if I touch them, they'll be like, oh, we can't put them back.
00:21:00.05
William Hernandez
Yeah, if I lick them, I'll lick each shell whatever.
00:21:00.40
LJ
All right, you can have them.
00:21:03.93
William Hernandez
Fucking ridiculous.
00:21:05.16
LJ
Animal.
00:21:05.70
William Hernandez
Anyway. Yeah, so I saw Captain America on Friday. ah It was mid. It was about as mid as the review said it was. It made money. It made over $100 million during a weekend. But again again, three-day weekend. It was Valentine's Day on Friday.
00:21:26.47
William Hernandez
People were going out because, you know, obviously dinner and a movie or whatever. So I'm not surprised that it made money. But I think the problem with these with the Marvel stuff right now is that they're in this like weird zone because – They're not advancing a story forward, like a thing that connects them all.
00:21:43.40
William Hernandez
And I think you need that with some of these movies. But, bro, the acting was so fucking bad.
00:21:47.55
LJ
it gu become But it becomes oversaturated when you do that.
00:21:50.33
William Hernandez
Well, that's the problem. And now that, you know, they're coming out with the dun the Thunderbolts comes out in May.
00:21:54.41
LJ
I've seen that.
00:21:56.73
William Hernandez
And then Fantastic Four I'm actually interested in.
00:21:59.35
LJ
The only reason why I think that'll be, it'll be fine because it's been a while and maybe, and maybe people were like yearning for it and maybe, you know, the masters was asking for it.
00:21:59.76
William Hernandez
um
00:22:03.27
William Hernandez
Fantastic Four. Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:10.25
William Hernandez
Yeah, and then there were actors in there that people like, like Pedro Pascal and who's the guy from The Bear? He plays the thing. um do you want You watch The Bear, right?
00:22:23.64
William Hernandez
Why you laughing?
00:22:27.95
William Hernandez
i know why you're laughing now.
00:22:28.81
LJ
Um, oh what's his name? Oh, my God.
00:22:31.70
William Hernandez
Oh, I forget his name. Hold the
00:22:34.15
LJ
actually didn't know he was playing the thing.
00:22:35.92
William Hernandez
Yeah, i didn't know that either.
00:22:37.87
LJ
Oh, shoot.
00:22:38.29
William Hernandez
Let's see. The thing.
00:22:39.85
LJ
Oh, my God. I don't know. He's not his name's not coming to me.
00:22:43.15
William Hernandez
Oh, fuck. Hold on. Fantastic Four.
00:22:48.01
LJ
Because I know it was Michael Chiklis right back in the days.
00:22:50.54
William Hernandez
Yes! Yeah! That's good memory. What the hell's his fucking name?
00:22:58.22
William Hernandez
Oh my god. Somebody's like yelling. Oh, Eben Moss... ah Right? Is that him? Eben Moss Barak? Eben Moss Bachrock.
00:23:11.28
William Hernandez
That's how you say it.
00:23:14.51
LJ
Yeah, that, yep.
00:23:14.62
William Hernandez
Oh, he actually lives in Brooklyn. That's interesting.
00:23:17.05
LJ
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't know, I didn't know he was...
00:23:19.34
William Hernandez
ah Yeah, it's... it's Yeah, it... I don't know. It's... some There are a lot of, like... Because, you know, they're eventually going to converge. And there's a shot because they showed up trailer doing...
00:23:33.30
LJ
Is he the thing or he's, he's, the he's doing the thing?
00:23:33.67
William Hernandez
There's a... He's the thing.
00:23:35.70
LJ
Okay.
00:23:36.00
William Hernandez
Yeah, somebody else is doing Johnny Storm. And I forget who the woman is that's playing... What's her name? I forget what the name is. and I'm not a really a big Fantastic Four person. Never really have been.
00:23:47.88
William Hernandez
But I'm still going to go see it. But yeah, it's just I don't know. Bro, I don't want to see Harrison Ford in a fucking movie like this ever again. Dude, he was... Listen, I'm but just going to say it.
00:23:58.81
William Hernandez
He looked like fucking Joe Biden. And it was appropriate because he was playing the president in the movie.
00:24:03.93
LJ
That's bad. It's respectful.
00:24:06.62
William Hernandez
mean, seriously, bro. Dude, it's just, listen, and the thing is, I feel like they, we know he turns into the Hulk, right? Like this Red Hulk shit.
00:24:17.39
William Hernandez
And it's just like, why couldn't you guys keep that a secret? You had to fucking like, like that is what lore people in.
00:24:22.15
LJ
No, because that's what lured people in. They knew they that they knew they knew if they would have just showed it that way.
00:24:25.58
William Hernandez
That's absolutely it.
00:24:29.28
LJ
It may not. It may not. It may not. may It may not have made the money it made.
00:24:32.97
William Hernandez
Yeah, probably. Also, can i can i can I say another thing about this? And it this goes back to what I said last week about the Kendrick Lamar thing. Because people were like, oh, people didn't like Captain America because Captain America is black now.
00:24:44.64
LJ
Oh, God.
00:24:44.72
William Hernandez
Listen, guys.
00:24:45.40
LJ
Here we go. I don't want to hear this.
00:24:46.02
William Hernandez
This is the thing that came out.
00:24:46.72
LJ
This is stupid. This is stupid.
00:24:47.84
William Hernandez
No, this is the thing that came out. And I'm like, first of all, they've done this in the comic books already, for those who are not aware. Falcon was Captain America for a while. So that's one. This has already been done. Two.
00:25:00.19
William Hernandez
Guys, sometimes things can be bad because it's bad. Simple as that.
00:25:05.86
LJ
boy.
00:25:06.34
William Hernandez
That's the way it works. Yeah, it's it's it it automatically becomes a race thing. One other thing I want to say. The concession prices at these fucking movie theaters.
00:25:16.59
LJ
Oh yeah.
00:25:18.17
William Hernandez
Fuck it. Let me tell you what I got.
00:25:21.86
William Hernandez
They had like a ah combo deal. It was a large popcorn, which I'm surprised I ate the whole thing.
00:25:27.70
LJ
You fucking pig.
00:25:28.51
William Hernandez
Uh, I know a fucking, uh, pretty, I would say like a medium size soda. And I got a thing of Reese's pieces. Cause I love Reese's pieces.
00:25:40.60
William Hernandez
That wasn't part of the combo. How much do you think I paid for those three things?
00:25:46.38
LJ
That was almost, let's see, I've seen that combo before. That's like
00:25:53.51
LJ
almost 45 bucks.
00:25:55.48
William Hernandez
No, bro. It wasn't that much. It was like 27. Still a lot, though.
00:25:59.34
LJ
Oh, that's, that yeah, because you're up there. It's not bad.
00:26:02.37
William Hernandez
yeah Yeah, because it's yeah it's in the boonies.
00:26:02.66
LJ
That's not, to me, 27. I'm like, that's fine.
00:26:06.03
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:26:07.00
LJ
Up there, 27. That's fine. You come, come over here. You see what you're gonna pay one of these movie theaters.
00:26:10.89
William Hernandez
Yeah, I'm not doing i'm not doing that.
00:26:12.08
LJ
That's why I said that.
00:26:13.50
William Hernandez
No, I know. You said the bring.
00:26:14.19
LJ
and they do these com And they do the combo deals too, but that's why I go to Alamo.
00:26:14.49
William Hernandez
No,
00:26:19.45
William Hernandez
I like Alamo.
00:26:20.10
LJ
The last time went to the Alamo, did I go with Melissa?
00:26:20.33
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:26:22.53
LJ
I went with my son. I'm trying to think. I think i with my son. We went to go see Dog Man. Bro, I got it.
00:26:27.93
William Hernandez
lucky She wants to go see that.
00:26:29.86
LJ
Yeah, he wanted to see it.
00:26:29.97
William Hernandez
Oh, my God.
00:26:31.14
LJ
Listen, bro, you got to...
00:26:33.15
William Hernandez
No, I know.
00:26:35.46
LJ
He got an entree. I got an entree. he got a milkshake.
00:26:40.39
LJ
and he got a milk ah milkshake
00:26:43.76
William Hernandez
Okay. How much did that come out to?
00:26:44.40
LJ
Bro, I didn't even pay, I paid like with tax, like $41. And this is actual food that is good.
00:26:48.99
William Hernandez
That's pretty good. Right. Actual food. Yeah.
00:26:51.48
LJ
It's not, I'm eating popcorn and candy.
00:26:52.13
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:54.10
LJ
It's actual food.
00:26:55.37
William Hernandez
i The closest Alamo here is the one in Yonkers. I'm not driving all the way down to fucking Yonkers.
00:27:03.59
LJ
Yeah, they were sold out this weekend too with Captain America.
00:27:03.90
William Hernandez
The
00:27:05.71
LJ
You couldn't get a seat.
00:27:06.34
William Hernandez
ah ah problem is that... this is going sound bad. The Alamo is like... um
00:27:16.49
William Hernandez
It's like a more high-end place. And if you take a look around the Middleton Valley, it's not like... Those type of people live up here. Well, actually, that's not true.
00:27:27.09
William Hernandez
They do. But I don't know. Yeah, I'm surprised there's not one here. They should put one in Beacon. That would be the perfect spot for it. Because that's like a fufu area.
00:27:34.73
LJ
I'm pretty sure they've done their research. Maybe just they don't think it's going do well.
00:27:39.61
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:27:41.13
LJ
I'm pretty sure they have.
00:27:41.20
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:27:42.01
LJ
I don't see them not having done any research. I just don't see it.
00:27:46.33
William Hernandez
But, bro, there was a fucking couple behind me over my right shoulder. Pss, pss, pss, pss, pss.
00:27:51.48
LJ
See? And that that shit don't happen at the Alamo.
00:27:53.43
William Hernandez
You can't do that in the Alamo.
00:27:54.78
LJ
I put up a white card. The server comes and be like, yo, the two behind me, they can't shut up. I need them out of here.
00:28:03.16
William Hernandez
Come on, bro. Why? Why?
00:28:06.97
LJ
Or not even a white car no more because after they renovated, you just press a button and the server comes to you.
00:28:07.33
William Hernandez
It was...
00:28:12.67
William Hernandez
Oh, shit.
00:28:13.06
LJ
There's a button like on your table.
00:28:14.73
William Hernandez
Have you actually had to use this thing with the people talking?
00:28:17.68
LJ
No, i bro, as many times, and I have a bit, I was i never knew about the Alamo until I met Melissa and she put me on.
00:28:22.81
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:28:24.35
LJ
And that's ah that's the only place we go to.
00:28:27.13
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:28:27.90
LJ
um no Never, not even in a children's movie.
00:28:33.51
William Hernandez
Wow, really?
00:28:34.03
LJ
It may be a little, you may hear a little bit here and there, but nothing to be like to complain about.
00:28:38.16
William Hernandez
Yeah, right.
00:28:39.10
LJ
And these people, they actually follow the rules.
00:28:42.40
William Hernandez
No, they do. um Yeah, I've been to the Alamo a handful of times, and I've never i've never seen anybody get kicked out of a movie. So, um yeah, it's interesting.
00:28:56.18
William Hernandez
But... So, uh, other thing too, no s snow Thursday. Apparently we were.
00:29:03.83
LJ
They're saying it may snow up here a little, down here a little bit, but whatever.
00:29:06.56
William Hernandez
Yeah. That, but, um, yeah, I was, I was, I was glad to see that. One other thing I want to talk about before we like get into like the meat of the show. And I didn't really know where to put this, but you know, they're doing this four nations thing right now, right? They're taking a break from the NHL and, um,
00:29:30.57
William Hernandez
You know, Canada played USA on Saturday. And everybody knows what happened by now. Canadians were fucking booing the national anthem. And in within like the first seven seconds, three fights break out.
00:29:43.63
William Hernandez
It was awesome. I was watching because I was like, I was waiting for AEW to start because they were doing something in Australia. And I'm like, oh, what am I going to watch? I just put this on for a little bit. was like, oh, shit. This is like an all-star game. Like, it's not this bullshit that we're going to get into later.
00:29:58.02
William Hernandez
Now, here's the thing that came out of it. And I'm going to read something that somebody said. Because, you know, social media is is always a shit show.
00:30:10.92
William Hernandez
So somebody was saying how... Because all these Americans are all like, oh, stop doing the national anthem, our sacred song. Shut up. This guy is like... ah This is what sucked this im not this is what sucks about being a non-Trump-corning American who likes sports.
00:30:33.50
William Hernandez
I can't even watch the Four Nations without feeling bad about being American.
00:30:44.32
William Hernandez
Sir, I'm going to say something.
00:30:45.13
LJ
i I don't even know what the hell that means, but OK.
00:30:48.83
William Hernandez
i saw somebody I saw somebody else on on threads yesterday, and they're like, ah oh, how come? Why do people hate the U.S.? Let me say you something. Guys, let me tell you something.
00:31:00.96
William Hernandez
This is not a new thing. Hello? 9-11 happened for a reason. but for reasons Because people hate us.
00:31:12.26
William Hernandez
This has been going on. this This thing that the rest of the world does not like the USA did not just magically happen because Trump got elected the second time and is doing all this stuff.
00:31:24.92
William Hernandez
This has been going on for as long as I've been alive. This is not a new phenomenon. So can we please stop acting like this is new because Trump is back in office?
00:31:38.37
William Hernandez
This has been happening forever. I don't understand why people just don't. It's like this. song You know how in the Matrix, the guy's like eating a steak and he goes, oh, ignorance is bliss.
00:31:50.66
William Hernandez
That's you people because you don't pay attention to what history has shown us that, ah you know, a lot of people outside of the U.S. don't like us because of the things that we do. We've done some pretty terrible fucking things.
00:32:04.39
LJ
More bullies.
00:32:05.50
William Hernandez
Yeah, we are.
00:32:06.04
LJ
Oh, my God. I'm not even, it's not tongue in cheek.
00:32:09.24
William Hernandez
it's it's true.
00:32:09.34
LJ
I'm being, I'm being real.
00:32:09.90
William Hernandez
No, it's completely true. So let's let's stop acting like this is a new thing. This has been going on for as long as I've been alive, as long as Lee J's been alive, as long as his country's been ah thing in the modern era.
00:32:26.71
William Hernandez
Just stop. It is what it is. And let's not get offended because Canadians are booing the national. That's their right. They can fucking do whatever the fuck they want.
00:32:36.46
LJ
I think they're boom because um ah my guess is with this tariff thing.
00:32:42.78
William Hernandez
Yes, that's exactly what it is. And the fact that Trump is like joking around about making Canada a 51st state, you know, like, come on guys.
00:32:46.70
LJ
Yeah. Right.
00:32:52.22
LJ
that's That was my assumption there, but I could be totally wrong.
00:32:54.41
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:32:55.30
LJ
But these people that do that, they're just trying to do anything to you know point, I guess, at Trump or whatever.
00:32:55.47
William Hernandez
No, you're right. You're right.
00:33:03.03
LJ
It's over, guys. He's here for four years. You got to figure it out now.
00:33:07.29
William Hernandez
Exactly.
00:33:08.29
LJ
Like these things didn't just, and you know, I'm not a really a supporter of his. He's, you know, I don't really want to get into that, but you're just trying to, you're trying anything.
00:33:18.56
LJ
And like you said, this stuff has been going on for years, way before I was even born.
00:33:21.22
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:33:22.62
LJ
Well, you were even born.
00:33:23.78
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:33:24.72
LJ
Just stop it. Whatever you make up is not going to get him. Whatever you think is going to get him impeached, whatever. I don't know what, I don't know what you're looking for.
00:33:31.64
William Hernandez
Yeah. I don't i don't know. i don't know what the... app
00:33:33.45
LJ
You know, prices of food haven't skyrocketed since he's been in offense. This has been happening.
00:33:41.14
LJ
You know, it's all related, but whatever.
00:33:44.03
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:33:44.14
LJ
Have fun. I don't have time.
00:33:45.22
William Hernandez
Yeah. It's, it's frustrating because it's just, and the thing is, is ignorance on both sides. You know, it's just, it's just, it, it drives me.
00:33:50.31
LJ
Of course.
00:33:52.95
William Hernandez
It drives me up the fucking wall. yeah Anyway. Wow. We spent the half an hour talking about nonsense. This is a weekly sports podcast and we come at you.
00:34:02.28
LJ
Sometimes people like to hear nonsense.
00:34:04.23
William Hernandez
It's true. You're right. We come at you each and every week on the podcast, especially now, Jesus on the podcast platform of your choice. Don't forget, we're all over the place. Apple Podcasts, Spotify.
00:34:16.94
William Hernandez
Please, and please continue to subscribe on YouTube. I'm putting in more effort over there, guys. Thumbnails and fucking backgrounds in the video and our fucking name is there and all that now. So, you know, if you want to watch us and you need a visual of us, I don't know why you would.
00:34:36.27
William Hernandez
But we are on YouTube. And we're likely recording again next Monday. So ah look out for the us next Tuesday.
00:34:47.67
William Hernandez
And of course, you can email the show. And don't forget to follow us on Instagram and Threads and X. And obviously, ah check us out on YouTube.
00:35:00.17
William Hernandez
So.
00:35:02.74
William Hernandez
You know, it's funny because I didn't think going have a lot to talk about. This is a weird time for us now because and NFL is officially over. We're in s spring training. March Madness is almost here.
00:35:15.69
William Hernandez
So NBA is obviously in this full swing of things. So things are a little slow. So I thought to myself, OK, what can we do to kind of. You know, what could be our our main topic for this weekend? This was something that I was trying to save, but I was like, fuck it.
00:35:32.36
William Hernandez
Let's do this now because a lot of people are talking about it. And that's this idea of this bridge quarterback for both the Giants and the Jets.
00:35:43.89
William Hernandez
Both teams did a quarterback. The Athletic put out something this past week about the biggest need for every team. And five teams had QB. And the Jets and the Giants or two of the teams in that list.
00:35:55.59
LJ
Ahem.
00:35:57.05
William Hernandez
But before we talk about the bridge, and this is somewhat related, Aaron Rodgers, now officially done.
00:36:10.28
William Hernandez
This came out the past week. They met, and they were like, nope, we we're definitively moving on from the Aaron Rodgers era.
00:36:21.42
William Hernandez
And yet the Jets put out – I can't believe they did this. They put out this thing. Thank you, Aaron. Thank you for the shit you put us through, by the way.
00:36:33.85
William Hernandez
Thank you for that. i cannot stand these fucking thank you things at these that these teams put out for these players that don't do anything. And that's the same thing with Ben Simmons.
00:36:45.05
William Hernandez
So one of the things that came out from this whole thing was that the jack the Jets had asked Rodgers to give up his McAfee weekly appearance that he does.
00:36:58.73
William Hernandez
Sir, I guess we can start there. And this is this is officially done. i know I know this is something that you've wanted. We've talked about this throughout the offseason, even during the season. But what do you kind of make of this... um the McAfee thing that they asked them supposedly to, to give up this, uh, the appearance.
00:37:20.61
LJ
Well, the way I heard it, it wasn't like they just went to him said, do this. If you don't do it, you're gone.
00:37:26.98
William Hernandez
Yeah. Right. Right.
00:37:27.77
LJ
It was just like a bunch of things. That just happens to be one of them, I guess. I never watched that thing.
00:37:31.15
William Hernandez
Right.
00:37:33.21
LJ
i don't have time for like
00:37:36.88
LJ
See, people, this is where fans, us fans, we're stupid. You watch these things and you listen to these things and you allow it to
00:37:48.51
LJ
maneuver your mind in one way or another.
00:37:50.56
William Hernandez
Right.
00:37:50.63
LJ
Listen, I don't care what he says on these shows.
00:37:51.27
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:37:53.72
LJ
i really I really, really don't, to be honest with you.
00:37:55.81
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:37:56.22
LJ
I don't, i don't um' mean I'm just a fanatic. I really am. People who know me, like this man here, he knows how I am with my teams and
00:38:04.30
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:38:06.27
LJ
I don't care about that stuff. Can you help us win? Are we winning as a team? Are you doing your job as a quarterback? Is everyone doing their job that they're supposed to do so the team can win and us fans can be happy?
00:38:19.22
William Hernandez
Yeah,
00:38:20.49
LJ
That didn't happen this year. was Was that part of us not winning? I don't know. I can't tell you that. I just... I never... I tried to listen to his show once. I didn't like it.
00:38:31.88
LJ
So it wasn't for me. I moved on. And as, as maybe other people have people tune into this stuff to see like, what's he going to say or what Maccabee's I don't, I don't, I don't to be, I don't care.
00:38:43.52
LJ
Like I said, I don't really care about this stuff. It's stupid.
00:38:45.81
William Hernandez
yeah. yeah
00:38:46.49
LJ
It's stupid. He got, he got paid to do it.
00:38:47.89
William Hernandez
hey
00:38:48.77
LJ
He's going to do it. I think Maccabee paid him his own money, like a million dollars or something to to do that spot.
00:38:51.01
William Hernandez
Right. He did. Yeah. Yeah, he did. He did. Right.
00:38:58.05
LJ
He probably would have did it for free if he wanted to. Like a million dollars. What's that to him? Like, I just think things like that are stupid. I don't know.
00:39:08.24
LJ
i didn't want him to I didn't want him to be here. I think they made the right decision. I heard it was Woody Johnson had nothing to do with it, which made me even more happy because that's telling me the coach and the GM or so far in lockstep.
00:39:20.05
William Hernandez
Right.
00:39:20.21
LJ
It didn't leak.
00:39:21.48
William Hernandez
Yes.
00:39:22.24
LJ
It was their decision. We were going to go in a different direction. You know why? Because what there's nothing in my mind that's telling me that something's going to be different next year. So you're going to go through another 5-12 season, hearing all the fans bitching and moaning.
00:39:36.49
LJ
But at the end the day, this is what you guys want because you thought there was nothing better. I'd rather you just try to fix just yo just draft somebody.
00:39:46.90
LJ
I don't mind Tyrod Taylor. He's good. he just He's just injured a lot.
00:39:50.86
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:39:51.67
LJ
that's ah That's a problem. But he could play he plays he could play quarterback. He's not bad. He's good.
00:39:56.87
William Hernandez
Yeah,
00:39:58.53
LJ
I just don't want to see this whole fiasco again. This whole, we got to go through these interviews again. He says this. He says that. He's going to some retreat. He's going to a darkroom. He's going to Egypt. It's all stupid. It's it's nonsense. It doesn't make sense to me. i don't care.
00:40:12.73
LJ
When are you guys going to win? That's what I care about. When are you going to win?
00:40:16.28
William Hernandez
because I don't... I know the other thing, too, was he had to be there for every mandatory, um you know, workout or or whatever as well. But, no, I mean, I think, listen, I think as a sports fan, I was always disappointed at the way everything turned out because you want to see great players do well, and that just didn't happen here. And...
00:40:42.48
William Hernandez
It got off to a fucking dubious start when he got hurt three minutes into that that first game of the season after coming out with the American flag, baby, and onto the field and waving that thing.
00:40:53.91
William Hernandez
And they just never – he never recuperated from that whole thing. Not from the injury, but just from that whole dilemma. So – and I do like the fact that – we talked about this – This is Aaron Glenn and Moogie.
00:41:09.94
LJ
Moogie.
00:41:11.59
William Hernandez
This is their team now. So they're going to be making the decisions and they decided to move on from Aaron Rodgers. Now, whether this guy retires or I got a feeling he's not, he's going to play at least one more year.
00:41:26.48
William Hernandez
We'll see. It's not going to happen in New York. We'll get to that a little later. Second thing related here before we go into the bridge thing ah And this might be a good segue into talking about the Jets.
00:41:39.94
William Hernandez
I mean, the Giants a little bit. So Matthew Stafford continues to be this rumored... The Giants continue to be a rumored landing spot for Matthew Stafford.
00:41:52.53
William Hernandez
And apparently they hired like his fucking...
00:41:55.95
LJ
Brother-in-law.
00:41:56.03
William Hernandez
What, his brother-in-law or something? And it's just like, yeah, it's...
00:41:57.77
LJ
His brother-in-law. Chris Hall. don't remember name. I think it's Chris Hall, but I'm not 100% sure.
00:42:01.88
William Hernandez
Yeah, he's going to be...
00:42:04.40
LJ
Assistant QB's coach, maybe?
00:42:04.53
William Hernandez
what is he going to? Yes.
00:42:06.15
LJ
Something like that?
00:42:06.24
William Hernandez
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So that's like, that's like adding fuel to the fire. And it's just like, but there are two problems here. I think immediately when you look at this whole thing, one, what are you going to give up for him?
00:42:20.41
William Hernandez
And I go back to what you said ah few episodes ago, you can't trade this, this third round, this third pick, you know, because you need to fill these holes that you guys have.
00:42:32.42
William Hernandez
And he's going to cost, you know, Let's just say a second round this year and next year.
00:42:37.13
LJ
at the at At the least.
00:42:38.63
William Hernandez
Yeah. And you've got, again, offensive line, right? You need another skill position player. They don't know if they're going to read the the rumors. They're going to bring back Trayvon, on his fifth year.
00:42:53.08
William Hernandez
They're going to renew whatever, bring him back. Um, So you've got all these like you've got all these holes to fill, so you don't want to give up too much for Stafford.
00:43:05.92
William Hernandez
And then the second thing is, is that is he going to be okay being a bridge guy? Because you can't do that for a year, right? You got to do that for at least for like with a guy like him?
00:43:19.79
William Hernandez
Two years?
00:43:19.86
LJ
Well, that's the thing is rumored that he...
00:43:21.40
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:43:21.75
LJ
Technically, he's not even going to be a bridge because he's rumored to want like an extension, which is like three years for $150 million.
00:43:23.52
William Hernandez
Right. Exactly.
00:43:28.00
LJ
Listen, I...
00:43:28.07
William Hernandez
so Yeah.
00:43:30.51
LJ
Real quick about... step I think he could still play.
00:43:31.73
William Hernandez
Sure. Yeah, so do I.
00:43:33.35
LJ
We've seen it this year.
00:43:33.67
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:43:34.15
LJ
He made the playoffs. He could still play. i don't I don't think the Giants sort of ah are the spot for him. I think they need too much stuff. I don't know...
00:43:47.06
LJ
I don't know, man. Does he want to come here and deal with this shit?
00:43:48.49
William Hernandez
Do you think... you but So you think it's more about they would be giving up too much for him because they need those draft picks...
00:43:56.92
LJ
I think you still have to trade him, right? You still have to trade him, right?
00:43:58.73
William Hernandez
Yeah. um as You have to trade for it.
00:44:00.21
LJ
And then you have to re-sign him because he wants a contract extension.
00:44:02.88
William Hernandez
believe so. Yes. Yes. It's a lot. It's a lot to ask.
00:44:07.34
LJ
It's going to take more than a number two.
00:44:07.42
William Hernandez
I think.
00:44:08.96
LJ
That's what I think.
00:44:10.31
William Hernandez
Yeah. No, I think so too. um
00:44:12.66
LJ
And are you willing to give up that stuff without at the same time needing a bunch of stuff?
00:44:18.43
William Hernandez
Right. But then you, but then you, the problem is you, the problem is the problem of a younger quarterback. Because it's like, okay, if you draft... If you still go ahead and draft like a Sanders or somebody or Cam Ward, that guy's not going to sit for two years, two or three years. There's way. There's no fucking way it's happening.
00:44:41.40
William Hernandez
So I think you're right. I think it's like pie in the sky type of thing, even though I still have him as like a bridge quarterback on my list. So let's... let's let's Let's, um, and before we do that, but let's, before we get into the actual, our choices, I feel like the jets are kind of in a more complicated position because you have the number seven pick, unless you're willing to take a Jackson dart that high, which I don't think it's going happen.
00:45:13.13
LJ
They should. i don't care.
00:45:14.56
William Hernandez
Right?
00:45:14.58
LJ
Because I'm just saying, because if you're if you're just trying to think of all these different ways on how you could draft them in the second round and who's in front of you, you never trust anybody.
00:45:14.76
William Hernandez
No, no, I know. Yes.
00:45:24.17
LJ
They might as going to take any anyone they want to take at any given moment in time, especially if they think that's the guy.
00:45:27.70
William Hernandez
Yes.
00:45:28.95
LJ
Why waste time?
00:45:29.31
William Hernandez
Right. Yes.
00:45:32.28
LJ
Why waste time? I don't know.
00:45:35.27
William Hernandez
It's a, it's an interesting, it's an interesting scenario. And this is, but let's get into this now. This is the thing that the jets are, are the position of the jets need stability for, because this, um, this graphic came up, uh, over the last week.
00:45:54.54
William Hernandez
Okay. Let's go through the names first. I know you have something to say about this, but let's set this up. These are the quarterbacks to start a game for the Jets since their last playoff win, which happened in what year was that?
00:46:07.53
William Hernandez
Do you remember the top of your head?
00:46:08.38
LJ
Was it 2010, 2011?
00:46:10.63
William Hernandez
Okay. Here we go. Mark Sanchez, obviously.
00:46:17.61
William Hernandez
Greg McIlroy.
00:46:20.78
William Hernandez
Michael Vick, which I didn't fucking even remember. Lee J's favorite guy, Gino. Gino Smith. Ryan Fitzpatrick.
00:46:32.51
William Hernandez
Bryce Petty. Josh McNown. Luke Falk. Who the fuck is that?
00:46:40.15
LJ
Marshall Fox brother.
00:46:42.25
William Hernandez
ah Yeah, he's white.
00:46:43.83
LJ
oh
00:46:46.64
William Hernandez
Sam Darno. Joe Flacco. Mike White. Tim Boyle.
00:46:55.16
LJ
God, I just want to vomit. it
00:46:56.73
William Hernandez
Trevor Simeon, Zach Wilson, and Aaron Rodgers. Sir, I know you told me you had something to say about this whole quarterback situation for the Jets, so go go ahead after hearing all those names.
00:47:10.79
LJ
First, I would like to shout out my man, Greg McIlroy.
00:47:12.43
William Hernandez
Yes.
00:47:14.43
LJ
He holds a special place in my heart.
00:47:16.61
William Hernandez
Why's that?
00:47:17.62
LJ
December 2nd, 2012, he was actually quarterbacking the the Jets to a 7-6 victory.
00:47:23.87
William Hernandez
Okay.
00:47:29.08
LJ
I don't know if Mark Sanchez got hurt.
00:47:29.31
William Hernandez
oh
00:47:31.38
LJ
I don't know if Mark Sanchez got hurt that day, but he started, I believe, and then McIlroy came in.
00:47:31.99
William Hernandez
That sounds awful. Yeah.
00:47:38.39
LJ
Through the only touchdown, they beat the Cardinals 7-6.
00:47:38.59
William Hernandez
Okay.
00:47:40.63
LJ
That was the day my son was born. and I was watching that game on the television in the room he was born.
00:47:42.69
William Hernandez
Oh, shit. Okay. ah Nice.
00:47:47.94
William Hernandez
That's funny. Okay.
00:47:48.66
LJ
So, Greg McElroy, you're forgiven.
00:47:51.19
William Hernandez
Okay.
00:47:54.15
LJ
For all these other shitbags.
00:47:54.52
William Hernandez
Understandable.
00:47:57.83
William Hernandez
Shitbags.
00:47:59.34
LJ
s Sanchez, whatever. It is what it is. he You can't take away what he did while he was here for those two back-to-back AFC Championship games.
00:48:06.24
William Hernandez
Sure. Yeah.
00:48:06.95
LJ
They got a little help, whatever. It doesn't matter. They made it.
00:48:09.44
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:48:10.58
LJ
Ryan Fitzpatrick, he had that one year.
00:48:12.97
William Hernandez
Right. remember that.
00:48:13.59
LJ
They choked in Buffalo, though. All they had to do was win that game, they would have made the playoffs, and they choked in goddamn Buffalo.
00:48:20.64
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:48:21.56
LJ
The next year, he came back. they well He was looking for a bigger contract. They gave it to him, and he wound up shitting the bed.
00:48:26.74
William Hernandez
I remember that.
00:48:28.15
LJ
All these other guys, and it's not even... ah a lot of these other guys are just like fillings. People got hurt. They came in. Bryce Petty, I think, was drafted in the second round. Josh was like a backup.
00:48:39.45
LJ
A lot of these guys were just backups. my my My thing is more to what I've always said.
00:48:41.12
William Hernandez
Yes. Yeah,
00:48:45.60
LJ
And showing this Jets list, not only because it's the Jets, so let's be fair, let's just take it off the table. Let's go by just who the quarterbacks are and a lot of what these teams do in general.
00:48:53.16
William Hernandez
yeah yeah
00:48:55.15
LJ
Darnot, Wilson, and then trying to get Rich Quick scheme with Aaron Rodgers. Wilson, Darnot, you put them right into the fire.
00:49:08.30
LJ
on shitty teams these players get blamed they get casted away don't know got lucky again by going to minnesota who's over know who knows if zach wilson's gonna get another shot again probably not his his reputation is probably already ruined
00:49:20.74
William Hernandez
even
00:49:23.63
William Hernandez
Yeah, um but that's a fair assessment.
00:49:26.39
LJ
right there's a reason why i think sean paint picked him up because he thinks you know he's cocky in the way he thinks he can fix quarterbacks which is fair he he's he's shown that he's done that whatever
00:49:27.10
William Hernandez
Yeah, definitely.
00:49:32.60
William Hernandez
Sure.
00:49:38.14
LJ
but This is more to like Darnot. Like this guy was picked, I think he was the third pick.
00:49:44.73
LJ
It's like the same crap over and over again. this This list is pathetic.
00:49:54.29
LJ
This list is pathetic.
00:49:56.45
William Hernandez
Dude, when I saw it, I was like, we got talk about this.
00:49:57.13
LJ
and to and to think that And to think this front office thought that some of these guys would make it here even as a backup clearly tells me they don't know what they're doing.
00:49:58.76
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:50:09.85
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:50:11.76
LJ
clearly tells me they don't know what they're doing.
00:50:13.84
William Hernandez
I'm looking at this list again.
00:50:15.36
LJ
this is like, I can't, like, what is happening here?
00:50:21.34
William Hernandez
I thought, because i was when when I had said this to you, i'm like, I don't even remember fucking Michael Vick being on the Jets.
00:50:27.98
LJ
yeah I remember him being on the Jets. Yeah. Like, what's happened? Like, and he was at that point in time, like, let's just try to bring him, like, at that time, it was just his name, which is the reason you were bringing him in.
00:50:38.50
William Hernandez
Yeah, right. Yes. Yeah, right.
00:50:43.40
LJ
Geno Smith, another high pick. He wound up not doing well here. It's just... this I think this more has to do with the front office than it has to do with the actual players.
00:50:54.60
LJ
This is terrible.
00:50:55.84
William Hernandez
fair.
00:50:56.04
LJ
This is sickening.
00:50:59.09
William Hernandez
Well, I mean, this is why this is why you bring these guys in to hopefully, you know, ah right the ship. Especially, again, if if you keep telling me the NFL, right, the modern-day NFL, the most important person on that field is the quarterback, I feel like you have to make sure you do everything you can to get that position right.
00:51:26.28
William Hernandez
Because not, what are we doing here?
00:51:27.55
LJ
let's just go to Let's just go to the Super Bowl.
00:51:28.56
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:51:29.61
LJ
what How many times have this past Super Bowl?
00:51:31.07
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
00:51:32.35
LJ
You always hear, well, if mahomes is on let's say if Mahomes was on the Jets, would he do this? A lot of people say, probably not. Or maybe he does because he's Mahomes. He clearly showed you on Sunday, when he don't have the proper tools, he looks like ass.
00:51:46.74
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.
00:51:47.84
LJ
And he looked like ass.
00:51:49.31
William Hernandez
Yeah, he did. He looked really bad.
00:51:51.71
LJ
He looked bad. If you didn't know who Patrick Mahomes was, you'd be like, why the hell this guy in the Super Bowl? if we didn't know who he was, no one could deny that fact.
00:51:58.67
William Hernandez
Yeah. Right.
00:52:02.45
LJ
So not even him with no offensive line or no tools around him could work miracles because he showed it that Sunday because the Eagles crushed him.
00:52:11.61
William Hernandez
right
00:52:12.62
LJ
There's no arguing that. You want to try to argue that? Okay, I'll just close the door on your face because it doesn't make sense to me. But he's even he's the proven fact.
00:52:23.47
LJ
I just... And I don't see this thing... I don't see this changing because...
00:52:29.45
LJ
These kids have egos too coming in here. You know.
00:52:34.02
LJ
Whatever they feel like they want to start right away. Blah blah blah. They should at least sit at least a year. And just learn NFL game. It's totally fucking different. It's totally different.
00:52:45.84
LJ
But. No one has time anymore. but So. Whatever. And you have shit like this. This is terrible. i don't I'm going to close my phones. want to look at that picture anymore.
00:52:57.91
William Hernandez
Okay, so let's... that All that being said,
00:53:02.69
William Hernandez
let's some let's go through... Did you come up with three to five guys or no? I know we talk we we kind of talked about this before, but I can name one guy, give my reasoning.
00:53:13.79
William Hernandez
You can name a guy. We can go back and forth. ah
00:53:15.78
LJ
Oh, for bridge?
00:53:16.81
William Hernandez
Yeah, and which' I think we're going to have a...
00:53:17.82
LJ
Yeah, think we talked about this before, but yeah.
00:53:19.87
William Hernandez
Yeah, i think we're going to have a few ah same ones here. Okay, I go first. I got my list here in front of me. I...
00:53:29.22
William Hernandez
this comes with an asterisk next to it as Matthew Stafford, because if you're telling me you have chance to get Matthew Stafford and sign them for three years,
00:53:42.28
William Hernandez
you know, you take that, do you take that risk? And you're like, Oh shit. Um, what are we going to do in three to four years? i don't,
00:53:56.67
William Hernandez
this This is why this comes with the caveat is is Stafford. So Stafford is my number one bridge guy, but it's also, I understand the long-term complications with that decision.
00:54:10.80
William Hernandez
So, sir, you're you number one or whatever, however you want to do it. It doesn't matter.
00:54:16.34
LJ
Yeah, I mean, when his name popped recently, I would agree for the Jetsu, I wouldn't mind ah Stafford.
00:54:21.81
William Hernandez
Okay. Okay.
00:54:23.04
LJ
I definitely wouldn't mind that we we do have talent on the offensive side of the ball. So that's why I wouldn't mind seeing him here.
00:54:31.59
William Hernandez
he probably
00:54:31.79
LJ
ah
00:54:32.42
William Hernandez
yeah He probably makes more sense for the Jets than the Giants, I think.
00:54:35.19
LJ
So I could see that here two, three years, and two years, I could see that. And I could still see that he could still play football because he did it this year up until they got eliminated.
00:54:43.33
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.
00:54:46.17
LJ
But yeah, I would i would say, yeah, ah Stafford.
00:54:50.50
William Hernandez
Okay. Okay. So that's good for both of us. Okay. So my number two
00:54:57.21
William Hernandez
or second pick, and we've already talked about this man, Justin Fields. I mean, i do think it would make sense for him.
00:55:08.30
William Hernandez
ah i think what you could do with him this situation is like he comes into here one year as like the the starter, right?
00:55:20.06
William Hernandez
And then he becomes the backup in year two. This way, if shit goes left with whoever you have, Can Water or Sanders or maybe even a Dart,
00:55:32.97
William Hernandez
Fields can be there as like an emergency, um emergency backup. And that's the case with the rest of these guys, by the way, that I'm going to name. First year you start, second year they're they get a backup. This way you can be there to be a mentor in that second year if those guys want that, which is the other issue here.
00:55:49.60
William Hernandez
So yeah. So Fields, Fields would be my, um, my second choice. Sir, you're,
00:55:57.83
LJ
and I've always said Fields. I like Fields either with the Giants or the Jets.
00:55:59.29
William Hernandez
Yes.
00:56:01.11
LJ
Obviously, with the Jets being that I'm a fan. um I'm more, and this ah that's as far as it goes me, Stafford and Fields. I don't really like no one else. this is That's it. um But more Fields, not to come in here and start it to be a bridge. I'd rather see, which would have been, I guess, a third type of pick, but whatever, you did just one and one.
00:56:20.51
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:56:20.74
LJ
i want to see Taylor start and Fields be the backup. Something happens, then he comes in.
00:56:29.49
LJ
That's how I want to see that done. Besides that, I don't really – there's no one else on my, you know, quote-unquote board that I'm looking at besides Stafford or Fields.
00:56:37.21
William Hernandez
Yeah.
00:56:39.21
LJ
Everyone else, I don't care because Taylor, too, is on the contract for one more year.
00:56:41.30
William Hernandez
Okay.
00:56:44.36
LJ
So, like I said, I wouldn't mind seeing him start and seeing what happens. And then you they need a backup quarterback. They don't have one because Jordan Travis is not going to be ready, apparently, because he's still –
00:56:52.36
William Hernandez
Bro, they don't have a starting quarterback.
00:56:53.86
LJ
Yeah, there's well well well, right now the way it is, it's going to be Taylor. That's just self-explanatory.
00:56:58.08
William Hernandez
Oh, that's right.
00:56:58.06
LJ
you don't have to look You don't have to look into it.
00:56:58.90
William Hernandez
Yes. Yeah.
00:56:59.58
LJ
He's on he's on he's on the contract for year, so right now it's Taylor.
00:57:01.86
William Hernandez
I keep on forgetting that, that he's there.
00:57:02.87
LJ
They don't have to tell us that.
00:57:04.19
William Hernandez
Right.
00:57:05.09
LJ
He started before in this league. He can start. He can play quarterback. So right now, without saying it, that's who it is until they start signing somebody or drafting people.
00:57:14.07
William Hernandez
Interesting.
00:57:15.28
LJ
So that's what that's how I'm looking at that.
00:57:16.89
William Hernandez
that yeah okay That, okay. Okay, so that's that's why I mean it's a different scenario. So I'll give you my three other choices for the jot the Giants, and you tell me what you think, since you don't have anybody else for the Jets.
00:57:28.91
William Hernandez
um We talked about this man already, Andy Dalton, who apparently the Titans are interested in trading for. The problem here is that the Giants would have to trade for Dalton. So he's with the Panthers right now, under contract, and apparently the Titans are are asking about him.
00:57:40.15
LJ
Was he with the Panthers, right? Under contract?
00:57:47.14
William Hernandez
So, which makes me think that the Titans are going to draft a QB.
00:57:56.44
William Hernandez
And then you're going to have Dalton be your bridge for that one year. Because you're not going to have, um what's this guy's name?
00:58:04.69
LJ
Oh, my God. The mayonnaise, dude.
00:58:06.87
William Hernandez
Yeah. The Mayonnaise, dude. Yeah.
00:58:09.43
LJ
Oh my god, I can't remember his name. Oh, Will Levis.
00:58:11.92
William Hernandez
Yeah, Slevis. God.
00:58:14.54
LJ
He's awful.
00:58:14.62
William Hernandez
who had two of the worst fucking memeable moments in NFL history, probably. So yeah, so that's you're you're battling that. ah Number four, I hate to say this, but Kirk Cousins.
00:58:29.29
William Hernandez
I feel like he's like the safe pick and a lot of in a lot of ways.
00:58:32.14
LJ
Yeah, I'm not interested.
00:58:34.39
William Hernandez
I know, but it's just like, if it's for a year, ah i can i can maybe live with that. And then desperation, Russell Wilson.
00:58:45.20
LJ
Oh, boy. Oh, definitely not.
00:58:52.93
LJ
Definitely not.
00:58:53.68
William Hernandez
I would rather have him than fucking Aaron Rodgers.
00:58:56.95
LJ
Definitely not. I'm out on that.
00:58:59.07
William Hernandez
I think Wilson's going to end up, he's going to end up but in the Raiders anyway, I think, at this point. So, yeah. I mean, again, I'm sure as we go along here, as the draft comes up and stuff,
00:59:12.07
William Hernandez
we're going to be revisiting this topic and just kind of seeing how these, um, how these things play out. But yeah, listen, guys, if you've got a, please reach out for you with your choices.
00:59:27.01
William Hernandez
ah who would you would like to see? Maybe don't forget that you can email the show. There's the option in the description of the podcast and the podcast service. So reach out to us and let us know, uh,
00:59:41.30
William Hernandez
Let us know what you would think. So speaking of quarterbacks,
00:59:47.77
William Hernandez
for some reason, the Giants are selling a 10% minority stake in the ownership. And nobody knows why, because this is just like, whatever.
01:00:08.88
William Hernandez
They've actually said they've retained. So everybody knows it's owned by the Maras and the Tishes. And they have retained. This is from an NFL CBS Sports article. They have retained Mollis and company to explore the potential sale of a minority non-controlling stake in the New York Giants.
01:00:28.45
William Hernandez
There will be no further comment in regard to the process. The Mara family has owned the franchise in some capacity since its inception in 1925 when it was founded by Tim Mara.
01:00:41.37
William Hernandez
More recently, the team has been split 50-50 between the Mara and Tisch families since 1991. John Mara and Steve Tisch have been in control of the organization since 2005. Now, apparently, Eli Manning...
01:00:57.06
William Hernandez
now apparently eli manning is rumored to be interested in buying the 10% minority stake in the franchise.
01:01:11.04
William Hernandez
Now, whether he does that, I doubt going to be on his own because who knows?
01:01:14.93
LJ
Yeah, not ah he probably won't be on his own.
01:01:16.39
William Hernandez
Yeah, it won't be on his own. He'll probably be part of a group, but I can see Eli obviously be in the face of that. To me, is like a no-brainer.
01:01:28.82
William Hernandez
Like, if you're telling me Eli's interested in owning part of the team, and somebody made a good point about this because he can come in and he can potentially help with football operations in the same way that Brady is now doing for the Raiders.
01:01:45.59
William Hernandez
So if you're telling me that Eli is going to come in here and do this for the Giants, the team that he played for his whole career, I'm in. Let's fucking do it. You know, i mean, what do you what do you think about this whole thing?
01:01:59.23
LJ
I don't see why not. Maybe he could be part of a group. Maybe his brother will be part of it too. Maybe his bops.
01:02:04.17
William Hernandez
That's what I was thinking too. Yeah, yeah.
01:02:07.71
LJ
I don't see how that's a bad thing. Eli's a beloved beloved all-time giant, all-time great. Not a first ballot Hall of Famer.
01:02:20.18
William Hernandez
We're never to live that down.
01:02:21.43
LJ
I'm not, and I don't care.
01:02:25.98
LJ
i I mean, who better than not to say who better, but most recently knows the ins and outs of this organization.
01:02:35.42
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:02:35.70
LJ
Besides Eli. So why not?
01:02:36.78
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:02:37.30
LJ
If he could do it, why not sell it to him in the group that he's going to probably be part of? um don't see why not.
01:02:41.51
William Hernandez
i I wonder, it makes me wonder if he gets a couple of other players involved. Does a Tiki Barber, you know, get involved?
01:02:53.90
William Hernandez
Does Michael Strahan... you know, get involved as well, but maybe Eli is like the face of of this. This way he takes the role, you know, a football operations role within the organization. I would, I think it makes sense.
01:03:09.68
William Hernandez
You know, they probably need somebody like that in the organization. Yeah. I don't know he's going to be as meddling as a Brady. Probably not.
01:03:20.78
William Hernandez
But, you know, I think it makes sense. I'll be curious to see how this whole thing plays out. um I would rather do business with the devil you know in this situation.
01:03:32.09
William Hernandez
And I'm not saying Eli's a devil, but you know what I mean. um Sorry, Eric. Steve Cohen's...
01:03:37.08
LJ
If they give him some kind of direction, he'll be...
01:03:37.52
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:03:39.01
LJ
and What he needs to be doing, what he's going to be doing with his 10%, he'll be fine.
01:03:43.58
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:03:43.72
LJ
Because he's not... I don't think he's that guy.
01:03:45.94
William Hernandez
No, he's not.
01:03:46.27
LJ
yeah
01:03:46.66
William Hernandez
He doesn't seem like that guy. By the way, Eric, sorry. steve Uncle Steve is not getting involved here.
01:03:52.16
LJ
oh stop.
01:03:52.23
William Hernandez
That's
01:03:53.00
LJ
Eric, stop it.
01:03:55.46
William Hernandez
not happening. That's not happening. yeah i just yeah i would love to know like what the reasoning for this whole thing is. Because if you look at the story, there's there's no specific reasoning for why you know why they're doing this.
01:04:10.57
William Hernandez
So it's weird.
01:04:11.93
LJ
think he looked at it I think he looked at his expiration date. It was very soon.
01:04:14.88
William Hernandez
Oh, you think the Maris? Well, because Maris, well, he probably has like 25 years off his life after what happened last week.
01:04:21.89
LJ
and and to say Kwon Subo added 10 years to that.
01:04:24.25
William Hernandez
that That's what I mean.
01:04:24.44
LJ
Yeah.
01:04:25.05
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that's what I mean. Let's see. So I'm looking at this right now. The Philadelphia Eagles sold 8% of the team in a pair of deals last year, which valued the team at $8.1 billion. Good billion kill lord Given the New York City market, it's possible, if not a certainty, that the evaluation for the Giants will exceed that of their... they Oh, yeah, no shit it's going to.
01:04:52.13
William Hernandez
Damn. That's... Yeah, it's definitely going have be part of a group. Um... But yeah, I mean, that's that's really it. i didn't I knew we weren't going to spend a lot of time ah on that, but I knew it was something that I didn't want to um i did want to all address because I think it obviously makes sense for Eli to get involved here.
01:05:14.15
William Hernandez
So it's halftime here on the show. And um I learned the past couple of days that Lee J. hates another holiday.
01:05:27.22
William Hernandez
We already know how much he hates Christmas.
01:05:27.77
LJ
Ah. Ah.
01:05:31.07
William Hernandez
He's a fucking Scrooge. He's a real life Scrooge. But now, I also know that Lee J hates Valentine's Day.
01:05:37.82
LJ
ah
01:05:38.96
William Hernandez
And I have to say, before we go on, I kind of get it, right? we We talked about this a little bit on ah the other day. You know what I did on Thursday, by the way?
01:05:51.17
William Hernandez
So, the brewery, everybody knows the brewery. Shout out to Newburgh Brewery. They had a Valentine's Day ah event on Thursday.
01:06:02.74
William Hernandez
I knew this. like I'm going to go to the brewery and I'm just going to look around and kind of see. Who knows? Maybe I might meet somebody. No, that did not happen.
01:06:14.40
William Hernandez
But I just thought it was funny. It got me thinking about Valentine's Day and forget how the conversation came up with you. And you you asked me if I was into it. And I said to you,
01:06:26.02
William Hernandez
I am into it if I'm in a relationship with somebody, especially if it's a big deal to that person. I will go out of of my way to whatever, make that day feel like special.
01:06:41.01
William Hernandez
Otherwise it's a hallmark holiday. I don't give a shit, but you had some very interesting things to say about, about it. So go, go ahead, sir. The floor, the floor is yours.
01:06:49.98
LJ
The good thing is Mel's not into it. She's not into it.
01:06:52.13
William Hernandez
Okay. Okay.
01:06:53.42
LJ
I like it because i don't not mean in the holiday, her birthday is two days before. So that's what we celebrate.
01:06:57.19
William Hernandez
Oh, there you go
01:06:58.61
LJ
That's what we celebrate.
01:06:58.64
William Hernandez
Right.
01:06:59.81
LJ
Right. We don't exchange gifts on Valentine's day flowers. It's it's stupid. It's called, if you look in real small print, it's called a setup holiday.
01:07:08.50
William Hernandez
Yeah. Oh, yes. Explain that to me. Yes.
01:07:11.78
LJ
If you don't buy this, if you don't buy that, if you don't buy what they asked you for,
01:07:13.38
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah. Okay. Yep.
01:07:19.59
LJ
12 months ago like you're supposed to remember this it's all this is this to me is all geared to if you don't do something on that particular day it's gonna either turn into an argument or a breakup period stop and this goes for men and women yeah i'm not being sexist here this is for men act that way and women act that way they both do it okay
01:07:34.86
William Hernandez
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh,
01:07:44.84
LJ
let mean Now let me help everybody out here too. All you side pieces in the world that don't know your side pieces.
01:07:49.46
William Hernandez
boy.
01:07:49.64
LJ
Listen and pay attention very, very carefully. I'm about to put you on.
01:07:56.51
William Hernandez
ah boy
01:07:56.94
LJ
If the person you're with and you've been with them, let's say, whatever, how many years? couple years, three or four years? and Whatever it is.
01:08:08.32
LJ
And the only day they want to celebrate with you is February 13th. You're a side piece. I just want to let you know that it goes for every other holiday. If you only get Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve, any Eve and no particular holiday the day of, you're a side piece.
01:08:21.98
William Hernandez
Right.
01:08:26.98
LJ
If they keep coming up with excuses and you know they don't work at night, so that's not a reason.
01:08:31.63
William Hernandez
right
01:08:33.38
LJ
You're a side piece. You should wake up and you should leave because you're not going to get their full fledged attention on Valentine's Day. Just ask yourself, what? Why the text messages different on February 13th as opposed to February 14th?
01:08:47.89
LJ
Meaning they're more on the 13th and less on the 14th. There's a reason for that.
01:08:53.74
William Hernandez
Right. Yes.
01:08:54.09
LJ
The main chick is sitting right next to them.
01:08:54.32
William Hernandez
Yes.
01:08:55.61
LJ
The main dude is sitting right next to them. They can't give you their attention that they gave you on the 13th. The 13th was all about you.
01:09:00.64
William Hernandez
hello
01:09:02.72
LJ
Valentine's Eve, Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve. The day of, you better take a walk. You better go find something else to do because it ain't happening.
01:09:13.17
LJ
This is this is all is all like, just to cause all, why didn't you post me in the beautiful picture we took over here and over there and doing this and doing that?
01:09:21.80
William Hernandez
right yeah yes
01:09:25.86
LJ
It's all stupid.
01:09:30.91
LJ
What makes that day any different to show your love or affection to the person you're with, to the person that you love? Why? Because us as a society deemed as one day with some stupid guy or whoever the hell he is, pronoun, now whatever he is, cute shooting a fucking arrow.
01:09:45.51
LJ
Who cares? Why can't I do that on February 17th? Why? Because no one else acknowledges it and every stupid restaurant has a prefix menu. Who cares?
01:09:57.95
LJ
okay I don't go to a restaurant I like to have a fucking prefix. Okay? I don't want you to tell me these are the only three things i can eat.
01:10:06.89
LJ
It's dumb. It's dumb.
01:10:10.55
William Hernandez
Hmm.
01:10:11.46
LJ
Okay? Stop putting this holiday, especially this one holiday, into focus of how you think someone should treat you, man or woman. It doesn't matter.
01:10:18.45
William Hernandez
Hmm.
01:10:19.19
LJ
It doesn't matter.
01:10:19.33
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:10:20.22
LJ
It doesn't matter.
01:10:20.41
William Hernandez
I agree with that. I agree with that.
01:10:22.56
LJ
It doesn't matter. It's dumb. it's That's why I say it's it's set up for people to fail. It is because if you don't do what in their mind you're supposed to do and make it a big extravaganza, you're fucked.
01:10:34.69
William Hernandez
Right. Then you don't guess.
01:10:36.64
LJ
And I don't mean that literally.
01:10:41.30
William Hernandez
No, I agree. Listen, I've run into those issues in the past where I was with somebody and they were like, well, how come this we're not making this a bigger deal? It's just like, but but that that doesn't mean that my feelings for you have changed or anything like that.
01:10:56.67
William Hernandez
You know, it's just, right, that's the problem.
01:10:57.24
LJ
It's a bigger deal because of what's on the outside. No, it's an outside noise. And now social media makes it worse because now you start getting compared to, oh, why couldn't you do that to me?
01:11:01.34
William Hernandez
Yes. Yes.
01:11:07.24
LJ
Look what he's doing. Look what he's doing for his wife. Look what he's doing for his girl. Yeah, but you know what? I don't have that kind of money.
01:11:15.68
LJ
He bought his wife a car. Really? Then you should just walk now.
01:11:22.35
LJ
You should just leave now. Let's save each other the problem. You know, let's just save each other this time and effort. Like, who cares? it Who cares? And it's just and it happens really on this one date where these things happen because society, social media tells you to do that.
01:11:34.20
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:11:37.74
William Hernandez
Right. You're right. I agree with that.
01:11:40.14
LJ
You know, I took her we went out for her birthday. And then um we went out to this other restaurant around here and a good Italian restaurant. I came up the name of it, but it was really good. I love the girl to death. I don't need it one day to tell me that I need to show her that.
01:11:55.48
William Hernandez
Yeah, exactly.
01:11:56.47
LJ
You know what saying? Like I was up in that kitchen cooking yesterday for a friend's.
01:11:57.47
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:12:00.02
LJ
I didn't mind it, but that's how I show what you mean to me that I don't, it's stupid.
01:12:03.41
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.
01:12:05.46
LJ
Like just in general, it just doesn't make sense to me They picked the holiday to just make things worse.
01:12:13.33
William Hernandez
That's a good point. good boy
01:12:16.53
LJ
Because if arguments are starting, what you think over because you didn't get a dozen rows, you only got six instead of dozen, you've had bigger problems. You just didn't want to address them before.
01:12:25.02
William Hernandez
Yeah, that's true. There was one thing.
01:12:28.42
LJ
And that's why I hate the holidays. That's why I hate that. holiday It's just stupid. It's stupid.
01:12:32.28
William Hernandez
There was one thing that this this guy that I've known for a long time, he posted on Facebook. And I was like, holy shit, this is right. because It just reminded me because you mentioned the pictures thing. Oh, I see what Joe Schmoe is doing for his wife. Why don't you do the same thing for me?
01:12:47.43
William Hernandez
This is what he says. I frankly think Valentine's Day on Facebook is just first day of the school year picture day for adults.
01:12:56.65
LJ
Yes.
01:12:57.50
William Hernandez
That's exactly what it is.
01:12:57.54
LJ
Perfect. Bingo. Oh, look, we're fake. We love each other. February 15th. Fuck you, motherfucker.
01:13:10.21
William Hernandez
And I've known couples like that.
01:13:11.75
LJ
Come on, man. It's all a facade. It's all a facade. It's all stupid. It's stupid. Either you're gonna rock together you're not. You don't need this one day to tell you, oh, this is the one day that I'll accept a dozen roses even though I hate flowers.
01:13:24.97
LJ
Does that make sense to you? Does that make sense to you? Just because it's all the facade.
01:13:29.40
William Hernandez
Holy shit.
01:13:32.44
LJ
It's all stupid. And that's not a facade.
01:13:36.78
William Hernandez
Boy. All right. Well, today's President's Day. Another dumb holiday, so...
01:13:42.23
LJ
Jesus Christ. Like any of them deserve a holiday.
01:13:46.43
William Hernandez
Right. Exactly. Holy shit. All right.
01:13:53.30
William Hernandez
Oh, boy. This... This is... I actually have some more things to add to this, and we'll just get into it as we as we go along. But NBA All-Star Weekend was this past weekend. And honestly, did not think we were going talk about this heading into the weekend.
01:14:12.99
William Hernandez
But my God, what did your brother say? What did Jonathan say about everything?
01:14:18.61
LJ
It's shit. They need to end it. Something like that. He was, he was, he watched a little bit. He probably turned it off. Me knowing him, he probably turned it off. He's like, i can't watch this anymore.
01:14:28.87
William Hernandez
So let I think we'll we'll mostly talk about the the the dunk contest, but there are some things that happened last night that also, ah i just, I don't know what is happening here, but the NBA needs to fix it.
01:14:42.99
William Hernandez
And then they wonder why the ratings are in the shitter right now. So the only reason I was watching it Saturday night was because, like I mentioned before, AEW had something like a special, and they were going to show it late at night after the All-Star ah Saturday festivities are over.
01:15:00.45
William Hernandez
So I was just basically waiting around for this to start. So I'm like, you know what? Let me watch the dunk contest. Let me see what this is about now in this day and age.
01:15:13.27
William Hernandez
And here's the big problem. This is why I think you have a problem. And there was a controversy around this today. one One thing. The format itself is a problem when you're using Vince Carter, probably the greatest dunker in the history of this contest.
01:15:33.64
William Hernandez
Yes, better than Michael Jordan. better than Dominique Wilkins, as the hype man for the event. i don't know if you – did you see it? You didn't watch any of it, right? Like live?
01:15:41.91
LJ
No, I just saw those those kids' dunks on Instagram. That was it. I didn't watch any of this shit.
01:15:46.18
William Hernandez
so and So basically, you know, they had they had Vince doing like these intros for each guy like it was a fucking WWE wwe or UFC thing going on, you know? Like they got packages and all this other shit.
01:15:59.67
William Hernandez
So that was kind of like the one thing. He was one of the judges too, obviously. It was him, Kenny Smith. I think Garnett was one of them. I forget who the who the fourth the fourth or fifth people were. So that was kind of like the the one issue I had.
01:16:11.99
William Hernandez
Second issue. There are no stars in this fucking thing. Nobody here I know.
01:16:17.22
LJ
And.
01:16:19.56
William Hernandez
You know what I mean? Now, you've got you've got Matt McClung, who was a two-time defending champion, who's a fucking G League guy, by the way.
01:16:26.07
LJ
Mm
01:16:29.69
LJ
Yep.
01:16:30.55
William Hernandez
He's not even in a fucking pros. He comes out and he wins three in a row. Now I will say this, and I know this is where you and I disagreed. I thought that his dunks were unique for that environment.
01:16:47.72
William Hernandez
Meaning he jumped over a car, meaning he took a, you know, he had this guy stand on a platform that was really tall and he took the ball and, you know,
01:16:59.16
William Hernandez
It almost seemed like he was like suspended in the air for a couple of these dunks. I thought for the format, yeah, okay. this is This is actually cool. I know you disagreed on that.
01:17:11.10
William Hernandez
and
01:17:11.13
LJ
Yeah, because I've seen these dunks before. That's the only reason I kind of said that.
01:17:14.19
William Hernandez
Right, okay.
01:17:15.17
LJ
I've seen the jumping over the car. I've seen you know Aaron Gordon do the grab the ball after somebody but after the mascot was twirling.
01:17:21.20
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay.
01:17:23.82
LJ
I've seen some people try to do the two dunk the two balls into the rim at different times.
01:17:27.18
William Hernandez
Yes, yeah yes, guest yes, yes, yes. It's fair.
01:17:30.68
LJ
i've seen I've seen all of these things. To me, the biggest thing missing from here is that you don't have stars in here.
01:17:37.95
William Hernandez
Right.
01:17:38.72
LJ
People don't know who these players are.
01:17:38.99
William Hernandez
Yes.
01:17:40.90
LJ
They know who McClung is because... And let's... let's less's less's Everybody, thiss let's... Don't go calling the president all that, but let's be honest to yourself.
01:17:51.66
LJ
He's a white guy.
01:17:52.52
William Hernandez
Yes, exactly. Yes, exactly.
01:17:54.96
LJ
Okay? if this If this was whoever, you know, it's not going to get the same hype.
01:17:57.95
William Hernandez
Yeah. Anybody else? Yes.
01:18:01.66
LJ
and it And it wound up being in a three-peat.
01:18:01.93
William Hernandez
that's You're right. Right.
01:18:04.59
LJ
So let's, you know, I'm not saying anything shocking here. Okay?
01:18:07.72
William Hernandez
Yeah, exactly.
01:18:09.94
LJ
I just think there's no cache anymore. And they've been trying to tweak this for the past years, different things, do this, do that. What I do, I just didn't get to watch any of the facilities. I do like some of the things like little skill challenges.
01:18:23.06
LJ
I kind of like that kind of that kind of stuff.
01:18:23.16
William Hernandez
The skill contest. Yeah, yeah.
01:18:25.65
LJ
But like, I remember, you know, when my grandfather was alive, we used to go to his house and it was me, my brother, Rob, come over, Charlie, whatever. We would get some beer.
01:18:36.67
LJ
And this was an event.
01:18:37.79
William Hernandez
it was Yeah, it was. It used to be. Yeah, you're right.
01:18:39.27
LJ
We will make this an event.
01:18:40.83
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:18:41.34
LJ
We will go to my room, the first room in the apartment, get the beer, line them once that duk Once that dunk, even even the three-point contest, once these contests started, we didn't move.
01:18:46.73
William Hernandez
It was an event.
01:18:50.58
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:18:53.37
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:18:55.20
LJ
it's not even It's not even close to that anymore. If I was to call somebody say, you want to get together for the dunk contest, they'll probably hang up on me.
01:19:05.24
William Hernandez
So, speaking of stars... So afterwards, all these fucking people now start coming out of the woodwork. John Morant. And then Giannis is like, if you do it, then I'm to do it.
01:19:18.77
LJ
I'll do it. Yeah.
01:19:21.39
William Hernandez
Bro, where were you guys before?
01:19:24.02
LJ
ah John Moran, I think, is a really good kind of candidate.
01:19:26.51
William Hernandez
Yeah, he is. don't know about Giannis.
01:19:27.65
LJ
Just because I know what he could do.
01:19:29.20
William Hernandez
But Morant?
01:19:29.46
LJ
You got it. He might be like that too tall a person to do this, but I wouldn't mind seeing him.
01:19:33.21
William Hernandez
Yeah. I would like to see what he would do.
01:19:35.12
LJ
But.
01:19:36.32
William Hernandez
Yeah, I agree with that.
01:19:38.01
LJ
That's what they need, man. These these these guys, because eventually the McClung thing is going to run its course.
01:19:44.43
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah.
01:19:45.29
LJ
Jumping out the building as a white guy is going to run its course.
01:19:48.07
William Hernandez
yeah
01:19:50.03
LJ
and And you're going get, it I would like to see what the ratings are, like I told you before, on this crap. Because the whole All-Star weekend sucks. This is like, this is like become the Pro Bowl of of basketball. It's so stupid.
01:20:03.44
William Hernandez
Yeah. Between the celebrity game and the fucking.
01:20:05.30
LJ
The celebrity gang, oh that's atrocious. Come on, man.
01:20:08.55
William Hernandez
i saw some other clips from that.
01:20:09.71
LJ
We got Kevin Hart running around like he's a little infant, trying to play basketball amongst everyone else. um don't even know he played this year, but I know him in previous years. Come on, bro. Stop it.
01:20:20.42
William Hernandez
So I don't, so going to last night, I did not watch any of last night, but apparently this format, they got to get rid of the format. And somebody made a great point on social media today.
01:20:33.10
William Hernandez
They're Knicks fan, right? Obviously Jalen Brunson was selected, voted as a starter. Correct.
01:20:39.81
LJ
Mm-hmm.
01:20:40.35
William Hernandez
Now the way they did this format, it was like a mini tournament. They had four teams. The coaches were Shaq, Candice Parker, ah Kenny Smith, and Barkley.
01:20:53.57
William Hernandez
They each had like a theme. One was the OGs, one was the Rising Stars, this, that International, whatever. Jalen Brunson, who was voted as a starter, played for eight minutes.
01:21:07.73
William Hernandez
This guy flies across the country. from New York to San Francisco, a starting guy only got on the floor for eight minutes because his team fucking lost.
01:21:18.89
William Hernandez
And i agree I agree with the guy. It's like, hey, I'm a Knicks fan. This guy got rewarded because we voted him in to be a starter, and I only got to see him play for eight minutes.
01:21:31.37
William Hernandez
It's bullshit. And I agree with that. It's like, come on. When you have this type of format, there are going to be, what do I like to say, unintended consequences to these things. So you had that. Then you had your boy on live commentary, Kevin Hart.
01:21:47.29
LJ
I hate him. He sucks.
01:21:50.22
William Hernandez
So this guy, he's on a hot mic. So the whole arena can hear what he's saying. How was that entertaining?
01:21:57.80
LJ
and That's not entertaining because he's not entertaining to me. I'm not here to bash him. I just don't like him as a comedian. But anyway, that's neither here nor there.
01:22:03.10
William Hernandez
Number three. No, number three. There was only like... I think it was 45 minutes of basketball played throughout a three hour event because they had like performances and other bullshit going on.
01:22:21.77
William Hernandez
And they only had 45 minutes of actual basketball being played in the three hours that they were there. What the fuck are we doing here? i don't know how you grow the game.
01:22:34.17
William Hernandez
If you're not letting the people, if you're not letting the players do what they're supposed to do. And then you've got Steph Curry taking fucking half court shot. I saw the clips.
01:22:44.72
William Hernandez
Like, I just, I don't want to see that. Why can't we just go back to East versus West? Like, how hard is that? When we used to sit there and, like you said, watch the game, bro, the all-star game for me back in the day was must-see television.
01:22:55.77
LJ
It's boring.
01:23:05.79
William Hernandez
Yeah, the defense wasn't great back then either, but it seemed like these guys were playing for something, like some kind of pride. Now it's not even there. i don't know if you saw, it seemed like the only guy that was taking it seriously was Wemiyama.
01:23:19.50
LJ
Yeah,
01:23:20.93
William Hernandez
Yeah, he was the only one.
01:23:23.01
LJ
I seen that.
01:23:24.26
William Hernandez
And it's just like you got one guy giving effort and who gave a shit. Meantime, you've got, you know, fucking Kevin Hart on a live mic. it just It's just, it's, as you...
01:23:34.11
LJ
It's like they got to do this because it's already a signed deal. Because I would be like, just forget about it. Just send everybody home for the week and a half.
01:23:41.40
William Hernandez
Right.
01:23:41.44
LJ
Go on vacation. Get rest. I'd rather see my players than the team I go for come back rested. And instead of having to go to this garbage, like you said, fly hor halfway across the country. You're not even involved.
01:23:52.67
LJ
So what's the point? I should have stayed home. You voted me in? All right, I'm not going.
01:23:58.99
LJ
It just it doesn't have the cash. I don't know what they're going to to save it. That's not my job. That's ah your boy's job.
01:24:05.24
William Hernandez
Yeah, my boy.
01:24:05.24
LJ
And um the alien, because that's what he looks like.
01:24:12.35
LJ
Because I don't know what to do. I haven't watched an All-Star game in years. and i don't And that's not going to change in the near future unless at least stars start doing the dunk contest. Then I'm definitely going to take a look. Besides that, I'm not interested.
01:24:24.97
William Hernandez
Yeah. Well, some people were saying, and and this is a special, so I think what happened at the Four Nations thing was a, was a,
01:24:36.49
William Hernandez
a special situation because of the political climate where people thought that that was way more exciting to watch than what was happening on Saturday night in San Francisco. And I get it.
01:24:49.72
William Hernandez
Now, can the and NBA do something like what the four nations is doing? Eh, I don't know if that's going to work either, but they say it anymore.
01:25:00.50
William Hernandez
i mean, this is just not, it's not entertaining.
01:25:04.39
LJ
excuse It's boring.
01:25:05.31
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:25:05.83
LJ
It's just boring.
01:25:05.91
William Hernandez
yeah Yeah, it is boring. it's And bro, the guys, these guys that they had, they were fucking just going back to the dunk contest. They were missing dunks. I don't know about, I don't remember that happening.
01:25:18.49
William Hernandez
Missing as many dunks, because you get two minutes to do your dunk, but you also get a certain amount of attempts.
01:25:27.28
William Hernandez
So what happens? You try to do something fancy, and then at the end you're doing like this quote-unquote boring dunk.
01:25:31.56
LJ
Regular.
01:25:32.72
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:25:32.79
LJ
Yeah.
01:25:33.54
William Hernandez
just like adam Just to get a score. is this like
01:25:35.94
LJ
Yep.
01:25:37.33
William Hernandez
This is not fun at all. so and i think I think the reason why I was impressed with what McClung was doing is because it was different from what these other guys were doing.
01:25:49.94
William Hernandez
These other guys had no fucking creativity whatsoever, whereas he had the creativity in his dunks. and I think that's why it stood out to me more, but I think that also says that's a larger problem for the format that you have, that you don't have stars showing what their creativity can do.
01:26:08.53
William Hernandez
Because you don't think those guys practice these dunks in fucking practice? They do it all the time. They're practicing like crazy shit.
01:26:13.85
LJ
They do it and it they do it but they do it in in a layup line.
01:26:15.73
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:26:16.83
LJ
If you go to a basketball game and you hear the crowd going crazy because they did something fancy.
01:26:17.30
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Right. So I just...
01:26:23.92
LJ
So they want to tease you, but then they're like, nah, I don't want any part of that because I don't want to get hurt or whatever.
01:26:27.73
William Hernandez
Yeah. it's it's It's ridiculous. They need to... I don't know. I'll be curious to see um you know what they do next year.
01:26:38.31
William Hernandez
So, all right. Let's stick it on a basketball theme.
01:26:46.12
William Hernandez
Cooper Flagg.
01:26:49.59
William Hernandez
So the only reason I kind of wanted to take some time to talk about him this week was because... you know it's it's ah It's a different topic. we don't really We haven't really talked about him. We've talked about him on the periphery.
01:27:02.30
William Hernandez
right because We don't think that the NBA draft is what it used to be anymore. but Flagg is consistently spoken about as but top pick for this coming draft.
01:27:15.34
William Hernandez
Though, ah came out the other day that he might want to come back for another year, which is kind of crazy. so Thursday night, I sat there and I watched them play. um Who the fuck were they playing? Now I can't remember who they were playing.
01:27:35.15
William Hernandez
And I was complaining about it because they were in the ACC, but they're in the West Coast. Was it... Let me just make sure i have it here. They were playing...
01:27:48.73
William Hernandez
California. They won Flag...
01:27:54.22
William Hernandez
flag ends up with 27 points. let me Let me tell you something. I know we're like, ah, you know, the talent's not deep.
01:28:06.07
William Hernandez
This guy's the real deal. ah Like, after watching him on Thursday, he was doing stuff that i always go back to when I was a sports writer and I would show up to these high school gyms and And it will become a apparent within the first couple of minutes who the best players were on the court, even if I didn't know anything about the team coming in.
01:28:33.17
William Hernandez
And that was a situation here with a flag because this guy was getting hyped to the fucking heavens, right? That's all we hear. It's flag, flag, flag. That's all we hear. But here's the thing.
01:28:44.29
William Hernandez
When you watch him play, he does everything well. He's like a well-rounded guy. He fucking scores. He drives the lane. He can take you off the dribble. He plays defense.
01:28:56.36
William Hernandez
He rebounds. He passes well. I can see now why this guy is being hyped up ah the way he is. And I did want to read something from Eric because I asked him because he's watched a lot of Duke games this year because he's a Duke fan.
01:29:13.48
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:29:13.66
LJ
Fuck Duke.
01:29:20.63
William Hernandez
So, because he went to the Duke George Mason game because they were driving back from New York and he was like, I got to go because they're home. He was saying how George Mason had a bigger guy on him that was trying to push him around and Flagg didn't back down at all and just kind of like was just going right after him.
01:29:38.42
William Hernandez
So, there was this other thing that he did. I got my notes in the living room. I'm not going to go running for them right now, but there was a ah sequence of events that happened where e had the ball on the left side of the key.
01:29:58.22
William Hernandez
Dribbles down. Almost seemed like he bounced off the guy. Popped out and did a turnaround. A turnaround fadeaway jump shot from the free throw line.
01:30:09.83
William Hernandez
Nothing but net. And then runs down the rundown runs runs down the court right after that and steals a ball. And then I think he passed it off to somebody and, and Duke came back and, and, and scored.
01:30:24.57
William Hernandez
So I think, by the way, Tyrese Proctor kind of flying under the radar in a way that guy's really good as well.
01:30:35.31
LJ
oh
01:30:35.51
William Hernandez
um Yeah. I mean, if he decides to come out, I think that he will be the number one pick, but I don't know if you have anything to say. I don't think you said you haven't really watched him at all this year.
01:30:45.58
LJ
No.
01:30:47.33
William Hernandez
yeah, But, yeah, I think it's a real deal. we'll We'll see what happens in... um
01:30:55.86
LJ
I look at the schedule, see when the next Duke game is and see if I can check. I just hate Duke.
01:30:59.53
William Hernandez
ah No, I know.
01:30:59.67
LJ
yes
01:31:00.25
William Hernandez
I'll tell you right now.
01:31:00.53
LJ
I hate everything about them.
01:31:02.51
William Hernandez
ha ha ha ha! Their next game is tonight. There you go. While you're shitting your brains out.
01:31:07.13
LJ
i While I'm shitting my brains out, sitting on the toilet, I'll be streaming live on my phone.
01:31:08.79
William Hernandez
Ha ha ha ha ha!
01:31:14.20
William Hernandez
While you're shitting your brains out tonight. You can watch him. And...
01:31:18.50
LJ
Maybe that's the reason I don't be shitting my brains out watching him play.
01:31:23.81
William Hernandez
You can let me know what you think. Let's see. What channel are they on? Oh, they're on ESPN. There you go.
01:31:28.98
LJ
Probably ESPN. ESPN.
01:31:30.16
William Hernandez
Yeah, they're on ESPN tonight. Because the game on Thursday was on the ACC network. And I do get that. But, um yeah, there you go. You can watch ah Cooper Flagg.
01:31:41.77
William Hernandez
Maybe he'll make your stomach feel better.
01:31:45.07
William Hernandez
ah Quickly, St. John's.
01:31:52.18
William Hernandez
They are now twenty two and four which is listen guys, somebody who went that school, it's pretty pretty amazing. They're now in the conference.
01:32:06.43
William Hernandez
Even though they lost to Villanova on Wednesday, 73-71, they came back yesterday and beat Creighton. At the Garden seventy nine to seventy three And now they are up two games.
01:32:20.40
William Hernandez
So possession of first place in their Big East Conference. Sir, you were worried because you texted yes yesterday and were like, oh, I don't know about this game for them.
01:32:28.01
LJ
yeah after a little After that loss of Villanova and playing a team like a big team like Creighton, that was the problem that I was looking at. But they they did well. they they They came out again with another slow start.
01:32:41.09
LJ
I think they were down by 14. But
01:32:43.23
William Hernandez
Again, yeah, it's crazy.
01:32:45.67
LJ
I told you, is the the the defense kicks in for some reason, and then the other team just gets stifled, and they can't score. And St. John just slowly chips away. But they got to do something about that free throw, the free throw shooting.
01:32:58.58
William Hernandez
Jesus, bro. Yeah. bro
01:32:59.88
LJ
And they got to do a little bit better. They got to do a little bit better on three points because the three points, lot of them are open. Like I explained the last episode. That's the part to me.
01:33:06.21
William Hernandez
yeah
01:33:07.95
LJ
You got to you got to figure that out. You got to figure especially the free throws, because those are free throws. They're free for a reason because you deserve them because you got fouled. <unk> There's no one in your face.
01:33:19.69
LJ
Whatever the crowd is the crowd. Just take your time. Shoot the fritos. Practice, practice, practice, practice. It's... Ugh. Seeing some of those fritos yesterday say was terrible.
01:33:29.59
William Hernandez
Well, no, they were bad. Well, I mean, the the good thing is is um this guy is back now. i
01:33:39.55
William Hernandez
Davion Smith. So I think he'll help because he was out for a while with the shoulder injury. So I think he will ah be a factor going forward on the three point.
01:33:52.51
William Hernandez
You know, he's working his way back. So that does help. I mean, Bro, watching RJ Lewis, that guy needs to stay in that like fucking 15 to 18 foot range.
01:34:05.86
LJ
He should be a top 10 pick.
01:34:05.96
William Hernandez
Because it seems... You think so?
01:34:08.95
LJ
I like his game a lot.
01:34:10.31
William Hernandez
um Interesting.
01:34:11.61
LJ
That guy knows the spot. he You know what? ah He's very decisive in where he wants to get the ball at.
01:34:16.87
William Hernandez
Right, yes.
01:34:17.40
LJ
He goes to that spot. He shoots the ball. There's no hesitation. he get His favorite shot is the free throw line.
01:34:23.76
William Hernandez
A free throw line, yes, yes.
01:34:24.98
LJ
He gets there. He shoots.
01:34:27.14
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:34:27.12
LJ
He's not trying to drive or do anything fancy. He knows what shot is his. He's a mid-range shooter who can hit a couple threes here and there. His defense seems to be pretty good.
01:34:38.86
LJ
he comes up with big He came up with a big rebound yesterday.
01:34:43.50
LJ
i like the kid a lot. I like the kid a lot. Not top 10, at least top 15.
01:34:48.51
William Hernandez
yeah he's um he's a junior so i'll be curious to see
01:34:48.72
LJ
I think he he's good. I like i like his game.
01:34:56.85
William Hernandez
you know does he come back i don't know
01:34:58.34
LJ
yeah he shouldn't eat If he continues to do like what he's doing, averaging 17 point, whatever he's averaging this year, don't come back. You're just going to hurt yourself.
01:35:06.04
William Hernandez
Yeah, he's averaging 17.6.
01:35:06.90
LJ
come out.
01:35:09.53
LJ
Yeah, he should, he should come out in the draft. Don't even waste your time, especially if the Dane Johns makes a deep run.
01:35:15.82
William Hernandez
Yeah, that's a good point. So they also showed during the game that um they're tracking to be a top four seed.
01:35:26.25
William Hernandez
Kind of like you mentioned. You know, like, why not? um So, yes.
01:35:31.04
LJ
I'll say this. You got here the last five games.
01:35:36.07
LJ
They have to... they i think I think they're going to beat DePaul, Butler, Seton Hall.
01:35:38.06
William Hernandez
They got win to win Wednesday.
01:35:41.31
LJ
I don't think that's going to be the problem. Here's what um' here's my thing. They can't lose both games to UConn and Marquette. They have to win one of those games.
01:35:47.62
William Hernandez
yeah Yeah, I agree.
01:35:50.71
LJ
They have to win. And I think the better win would be if they could beat UConn again.
01:35:58.48
LJ
But they can't lose to both of them.
01:36:00.31
William Hernandez
Yeah, UConn struggling right now. They lost to Seton Hall over the weekend.
01:36:02.80
LJ
If... yeah
01:36:05.35
William Hernandez
so
01:36:05.49
LJ
if they If they lose both those games, UConn and Mark Kent and go 3-2 in their last five, I wouldn't be surprised if they're like a number eight seed. that would be a little disappointing.
01:36:17.83
William Hernandez
I, I know. I agree. I don't think all the rankings when this came out, they got, they knocked down to 10.
01:36:22.80
LJ
Yeah, number 10. and It's was's fine.
01:36:24.21
William Hernandez
Okay. So there's still, yeah, they got knocked down one.
01:36:25.29
LJ
That's fine.
01:36:27.50
William Hernandez
Um, I just saw it was updated on the screen that I had open. So
01:36:35.05
William Hernandez
yeah, that, um, the Marquette games in Milwaukee. So that's the last game of the season.
01:36:44.35
William Hernandez
Uh, yeah. I mean, if they lost that game, I guess I wouldn't be mad, but I think they do have to be beat UConn at the garden. It's a noon game. It's already sold out by the way. Let's talk about that because it was one thing that, that Patino said yesterday, he was surprised.
01:37:01.29
William Hernandez
He's been surprised about the garden now being sold out for these games. And they changed the March 1st game from, uh, the campus to,
01:37:13.62
William Hernandez
The Garden.
01:37:14.49
LJ
There's a reason for that.
01:37:14.73
William Hernandez
Because they're playing Cian Hall. Right.
01:37:18.31
William Hernandez
That's kind of the thing, because that's like one of the big rivalries between the two. But he did say something interesting, and it's like, what did he say? He said something about, oh yeah, the only thing I'm really surprised about is the fan base packing the Garden.
01:37:33.52
William Hernandez
These are now Knicks crowds. I don't know if I'll get that crazy, but listen, dude, when St. John's is fucking good, that place sells out. That's the thing.
01:37:43.70
LJ
They do.
01:37:43.91
William Hernandez
Like it's, that's always been the case.
01:37:45.13
LJ
um've seen I've seen it.
01:37:46.41
William Hernandez
Yeah. Like that's always, and even, and they weren't even playing like a, you know, yeah, it helps at Seton Hall and it's Yukon, but it's selling out for Creighton. Like that doesn't, that shouldn't happen, I guess. But the fact that they're, you know, they're playing well, listen,
01:38:06.74
William Hernandez
They could go 27-4. don't think it's going to happen. But the fact that they're on the c cups cusp of having a 25-win season, it's been a long time. A lot of us have been waiting ah fucking long time for that.
01:38:20.50
William Hernandez
So, yeah, it's definitely an exciting time. But, yeah, they got to beat these teams that they need to beat, like DePaul probably –
01:38:28.61
LJ
they can't once say If they lose any one of those three, then it's it's not goingnna it's not a good look.
01:38:33.86
William Hernandez
Yeah, they got to beat DePaul, Seton Hall, and Butler. Those the three queens that they definitely need. so
01:38:39.45
LJ
Because the committee could at least say, all right, they lost to UConn and Marquette, but it's still UConn and Marquette no matter what they're doing.
01:38:44.78
William Hernandez
Right.
01:38:45.62
LJ
It's still those teams.
01:38:46.01
William Hernandez
Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
01:38:47.38
LJ
So whatever. See what happens.
01:38:49.84
William Hernandez
Yeah, we'll see. All right. This episode is moving along faster than I thought. Let's get into some baseball to end out the regular show.
01:39:03.78
William Hernandez
And um Marcus fucking Stroman, man.
01:39:08.24
LJ
I'm tired of this guy.
01:39:11.44
William Hernandez
for those who are unaware, he reported to camp on Valentine's Day. And he had all this fluffy shit to say about reporting on that day. Oh, it's all love.
01:39:24.49
William Hernandez
You know, this is the perfect day to come in. That's where the focus should be. Then he starts getting into, he doesn't want to be a reliever.
01:39:36.27
LJ
In the bullpen.
01:39:37.21
William Hernandez
Yeah, he wants to he wants the, he belongs in the rotation.
01:39:37.23
LJ
Yeah.
01:39:42.70
William Hernandez
don't know why they just didn't get rid of this guy in the offseason.
01:39:47.87
LJ
To be fair, to be fair, he's a good pitcher. He's an innings eater.
01:39:52.85
William Hernandez
Yeah, yes, yeah.
01:39:53.27
LJ
He's durable. That's to be fair. Now, let's not be fair. What I've heard about this guy, because obviously we don't know, he wears out his welcome, which is what it seems like with these teams.
01:40:01.81
William Hernandez
Sure. He does it all.
01:40:05.92
LJ
You're like, they're one year, whatever.
01:40:06.66
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:40:07.16
LJ
They get tired of your antics. And now they're trying to figure out how to get rid of you or put you in a trade.
01:40:12.84
William Hernandez
Right.
01:40:14.02
LJ
I think his problem, and listen, it's ah it's probably like this with a lot of athletes. And maybe he's one of them. Where he's at in his career, he thinks he's better than what he is, and he's not.
01:40:26.59
William Hernandez
Absolutely.
01:40:28.95
LJ
and just I'm just being honest. This is my opinion.
01:40:30.97
William Hernandez
Yeah, I know.
01:40:31.07
LJ
It's just my opinion.
01:40:31.61
William Hernandez
I agree.
01:40:32.71
LJ
Would it maybe suit him to be coming out of the bullpen as long relief and then getting a spot start here and there? Sure. At the of the day, don't you want to win? But in your in your mind, you're not that's not who you are, so you don't you want to move on. Okay, fine.
01:40:49.75
LJ
Go find that team that you can start. It's going to probably suck. And then you're going to miserable there because you're losing. But you're starting, so I guess you're good.
01:40:56.36
William Hernandez
Right.
01:40:58.47
LJ
And then again, you next year is going to be the same crap. So go to Colorado. See how that works out for you.
01:41:06.14
LJ
i don't know I don't know what to tell this. he's just He's an annoyance. And to see him on Twitter and Instagram every five minutes is... Ugh. Go away, dude. Go away.
01:41:14.93
William Hernandez
and it And it wasn't like, listen, he had 29. He started 29 games last year.
01:41:19.26
LJ
That's what saying.
01:41:19.61
William Hernandez
That's pretty good.
01:41:19.71
LJ
he eat Yes.
01:41:22.22
William Hernandez
But you had a 4.31 ERA. 10 and 9. Yeah.
01:41:25.32
LJ
And what was his record? Not good.
01:41:26.80
William Hernandez
ten and nine
01:41:27.17
LJ
10 and...
01:41:27.76
William Hernandez
yeah
01:41:28.71
LJ
okay. 10 and 9. Whatever. 10 and 9 is what it is, but the ERA sucks.
01:41:35.45
LJ
just i I don't know, bro. I just want him to go away.
01:41:38.70
William Hernandez
I mean, no, yeah.
01:41:38.80
LJ
go Go play baseball in Korea something.
01:41:43.24
William Hernandez
I mean, for a guy that's got like his career ERA is 3.72, and he's essentially a 500 pitcher, 87 and 85. I know people don't, oh, the wins don't matter anymore. Okay. Okay.
01:41:59.14
LJ
So what are we supposed to look at for a pitcher?
01:41:59.51
William Hernandez
That's fine.
01:42:00.70
LJ
Okay, whatever. he still just look at how Just look at what he does.
01:42:06.91
LJ
Okay, that's it. Move on. And he won't be probably a Yankee by the by the start of the year they can find someone to make a trade with. Apparently, i think there was one of the teams was the Cardinals.
01:42:17.98
LJ
i'm not 100% sure.
01:42:18.79
William Hernandez
Yeah, I'll tell you right now, it was the Cardinals and potentially the Mariners was another name that was kind of thrown out.
01:42:18.82
LJ
I think that's her. I heard the Cardinals.
01:42:29.33
William Hernandez
So.
01:42:29.58
LJ
Because the Mariners have like a pitcher-friendly paw park. So maybe that might help him.
01:42:34.44
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah.
01:42:35.80
LJ
I'd send his ass to Colorado.
01:42:40.08
LJ
I'd watch his ass get bombed.
01:42:41.73
William Hernandez
Oh, shit. I do. You make you make a good point about he thinks that he might be better than what he is.
01:42:53.47
William Hernandez
He also comes off as sometimes he's he's too smart for his own good in some ways. That's that's the way he comes off to me sometimes like, oh, I know it all.
01:43:04.54
William Hernandez
You know, look at my numbers. Your numbers aren't that great when you think about it at the end of the day. So maybe you relax a little bit.
01:43:18.02
William Hernandez
All right. Juan Soto's in camp. Pete Alonzo checked in this morning. i don't know if you saw that.
01:43:24.60
LJ
Now...
01:43:25.46
William Hernandez
He was walking in it and already taking, he's already taking stuff at first base. um So Iglesias,
01:43:37.44
William Hernandez
This is probably a good time to come back with you fans.
01:43:44.41
William Hernandez
Because some people on Twitter, not Twitter, Instagram, were saying, oh, the Mets should just sign him to sign him.
01:43:51.59
LJ
no
01:43:52.66
William Hernandez
That's not the way this works.
01:43:56.47
William Hernandez
That's not the way this works.
01:43:58.68
LJ
Oh my God, Lord help us.
01:44:00.89
William Hernandez
Somebody was like, I don't care how many infielders they have. They need to sign him because of what happened last year.
01:44:06.97
LJ
Because of what happened? He made a stupid song?
01:44:09.88
William Hernandez
Yes, he's good for the clubhouse.
01:44:15.35
William Hernandez
I know how much you love this shit.
01:44:17.85
LJ
This is just, this is why, this is why the Mets are a joke sometimes.
01:44:21.90
William Hernandez
Because of the fans.
01:44:23.12
LJ
I can't take away what this guy did after he was called up.
01:44:23.18
William Hernandez
Yes.
01:44:26.04
LJ
I can't take that away from him. I can't.
01:44:27.67
William Hernandez
Right.
01:44:29.54
LJ
But here's my biggest thing. Number one, I don't hear anybody bitching that Iglesias is asking for more money, but they ran Alonzo through the fucking shitter and Alonzo crushes him as far as a player.
01:44:38.54
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.
01:44:39.00
LJ
So let's stop that.
01:44:40.38
William Hernandez
Yes.
01:44:40.41
LJ
These guys look for whatever they could get. He's looking at it. Look what I did for you guys. I want more more money lowballing me. Right. That's one of the problems why he that they ran into.
01:44:48.01
William Hernandez
dab Yes. stab but He you didn't take the contract, right?
01:44:50.70
LJ
Right.
01:44:50.98
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yes.
01:44:51.72
LJ
So let's forget about that crap. So everyone stop it. Here's another thing. It's not that we have enough infielders now, let's say, on the starting roster come opening day.
01:45:03.79
LJ
We have to give the people in the minor league system an opportunity. So if you clog another roster spot, when are they going to get their opportunity to come up?
01:45:09.37
William Hernandez
Right. Exactly.
01:45:12.92
LJ
There's some people, no matter what they did for you to put a previous year, you have to go based on age and everything included, that thank you for what you did for us. During the playoff run, your spot starts, what you did for the clubhouse.
01:45:25.86
LJ
But we have to move on based off of that.
01:45:29.84
LJ
you keep signing these You keep signing these guys like this, when is everyone else going to get an opportunity that you want to give them that you're not even you knowre not even looking to trade them? So my my assumption is that you want to play them one day.
01:45:41.51
LJ
You can if you keep on bringing these players in that are like Iglesias.
01:45:43.94
William Hernandez
who
01:45:47.07
LJ
It's bad enough you couldn't trade away McNeil, which um he has but no he has no He has no worth, I think.
01:45:54.56
William Hernandez
Right.
01:45:54.76
LJ
no one No one probably wants him.
01:45:54.80
William Hernandez
I think you're, yeah, you're right.
01:45:56.16
LJ
So they pop they probably tried. They couldn't get rid of him. Marte's another one.
01:46:02.25
LJ
So these guys are going to... Because of the money they make, they're not going anywhere.
01:46:08.78
LJ
And eventually we want to see if a spot comes up to where, let's say, McNeil gets hurt. Marte. We got to call one of these kids up. Fuck it. Let's go. I don't need a Glacier's holding spot at 35 years old as a backup infielder.
01:46:22.72
LJ
I'm sorry.
01:46:22.99
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.
01:46:23.84
LJ
I'm sorry.
01:46:26.95
William Hernandez
Well, I mean, that was one of the things that came up in the in the whole, you know, I'm just bringing up the Mets current roster because I was looking at it the other of day. um That was one of the things that that came up was a lot of questions that this guy is getting asked in –
01:46:48.18
William Hernandez
you know, in spring training is, what are you going to do about Budacuna? That's been a big fucking question. Is he going to be on the opening day roster, and is he going to be one of these guys that he's going to be your your utility guy?
01:47:04.74
LJ
I just need to see him on the active roster. I don't need to see that kid starting in the minor of leagues.
01:47:08.87
William Hernandez
No, he shouldn't.
01:47:09.64
LJ
They made that mistake last year with Vientos.
01:47:09.84
William Hernandez
No.
01:47:13.19
LJ
I don't... He just... No. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
01:47:17.55
William Hernandez
No, I think he makes it... it Listen, because I'm looking at... here's Here are the infielders right now. Acuna, these are the guys in a 40-man roster that are in in camp right now. Acuna, Alonzo, obviously.
01:47:30.83
William Hernandez
Beatty.
01:47:33.41
William Hernandez
Lindor. ah but i don't know how you How do you say that his name? Madrigal? The guy from the Cubs.
01:47:42.10
LJ
Magical, magical.
01:47:43.05
William Hernandez
Madrigal, yeah. Mauricio, McNeil, Vientos, and this guy, Jared Young.
01:47:52.33
William Hernandez
Who they have as ah as a backup ah backup first baseman. Those are the guys that are in in camp right now. So you look at, okay, obviously Alonzo, Lindor,
01:48:07.19
William Hernandez
Fientos and McNeil, right?
01:48:07.78
LJ
Vientos McNeil, yep.
01:48:10.74
William Hernandez
That's the infield. To me, Madrigal is going to be there because he can play all over and you bring in another, another guy. i guess the question is going to be, is it going to be a Cunha or Beatty?
01:48:24.73
William Hernandez
I think it's going to be a Cunha because he can play wherever.
01:48:26.03
LJ
It's got to be Acuna. he could play He could play a lot more positions.
01:48:30.02
William Hernandez
Right. Infield, outfield, apparently too. So there's no room for Iglesias here. And that was the one thing they were saying. They're set with the roster as it stands now because it gives them more flexibility in where different guys can play.
01:48:47.18
William Hernandez
Whereas Iglesias does not have that flexibility at all, really.
01:48:50.22
LJ
And he wasn't going to start minors again. He wasn't doing that.
01:48:52.62
William Hernandez
Right, exactly, which is...
01:48:53.18
LJ
he's not He's not doing it, which is fair to him. he's thirty five I think he's like 35 years old.
01:48:55.09
William Hernandez
Right.
01:48:57.02
LJ
he's not No. He thinks he showed enough when he was called up last year to be signed to an active roster. I don't blame him. He's a good ball player, but not here.
01:49:08.79
William Hernandez
yeah He's 35.
01:49:10.40
LJ
Yeah, not here. You have to move on, buddy.
01:49:13.29
William Hernandez
Yeah, it's just...
01:49:14.69
LJ
It sucks. It's just a numbers game sometimes.
01:49:17.20
William Hernandez
right because people were like, oh, but he hit.337 last year.
01:49:19.50
LJ
Doesn't matter. People, stop it.
01:49:21.94
William Hernandez
That was last year, guys.
01:49:22.70
LJ
now average matters stop now it matters right because they that's their narrative now they want to make mad average shut up
01:49:25.49
William Hernandez
Yep, it does. and obviously does.
01:49:31.39
William Hernandez
God.
01:49:34.66
LJ
shut up you guys got infatuated with a stupid song oh oh my god which was terrible okay and you think that's what you saw mr weiner dancing to that song
01:49:35.74
William Hernandez
oh god
01:49:46.89
William Hernandez
Sir, come on.
01:49:46.90
LJ
shaking his wiener. Stop it.
01:49:48.55
William Hernandez
Sir, come
01:49:48.76
LJ
It's so, so stupid. So stupid. Just stop. Move on. Hopefully he you know he signs on with someone else.
01:49:54.53
William Hernandez
on.
01:49:56.49
LJ
It's over. Goodbye.
01:49:57.91
William Hernandez
That's what he says. He's like, it's not, he's like, he'll consider it until he signed with somebody else. So. We'll see. One other thing I did want to say before we go on to the Mount Rushmore stuff.
01:50:09.42
William Hernandez
let's Can we fucking relax about Clay Holmes? And I'm going to tell you why.
01:50:12.01
LJ
you know i Just stop.
01:50:13.64
William Hernandez
Did you see? Do you know where this is going, by the way? Why um I brought this up?
01:50:17.21
LJ
my My assumption is yes, but I'm not 100% sure.
01:50:19.69
William Hernandez
Okay. Because he got stretched out to three innings.
01:50:22.91
LJ
Oh, yeah. and Yeah, I saw that.
01:50:23.81
William Hernandez
you know in ah in And people are like, oh yeah, Stearns is a fucking genius.
01:50:29.94
LJ
Yeah, he's a sh...
01:50:30.28
William Hernandez
This guy's going to be this guy's gonna be a fucking ah gem Once he gets to... Guys, it's fucking spring training.
01:50:41.25
LJ
Just remember you say that and and when when in June he's getting em bombed because he can't go he can't go more than three innings.
01:50:47.86
William Hernandez
mean, this is spring training in a controlled environment with no umpires calling balls and strikes. Because got the catcher calling balls and strikes.
01:50:58.61
William Hernandez
What are we doing here? Like... Listen, I want Clay Holmes to do really well for the Mets. Don't get me wrong. But here's the here's the thing for people who who don't follow baseball like closely, and I'm not trying to get on my high horse because I used to be a sports writer.
01:51:17.96
William Hernandez
The worst times to make evaluations on some of these guys is in February slash March and September. And that used to be the case back in the day when you used to bring up 500 guys to the roster in September.
01:51:34.18
William Hernandez
It's spring training. This guy is pitching in a controlled environment against his own teammates. He's striking out the fourth string catcher.
01:51:49.06
William Hernandez
You know what I mean? Come on, guys. Chill the fuck out.
01:51:54.67
LJ
I feel like it's everything that this guy does, they want it to be like, you know.
01:52:00.75
William Hernandez
Who? Stearns, you mean?
01:52:01.52
LJ
Yeah, like's like psych. Because all the other shit we have had previously. You got to stop looking at it that way.
01:52:05.51
William Hernandez
i ah ah That's a good point.
01:52:06.18
LJ
Just let him do his job.
01:52:07.76
William Hernandez
Yeah, that's a good point.
01:52:07.78
LJ
Just let him do his job. And at the end, when this all said and done, that's what he'll do with talking. Not now because Clay Holmes is doing some crap in February.
01:52:17.04
William Hernandez
I think...
01:52:20.67
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah, in February.
01:52:21.94
LJ
Okay, who cares? Who cares?
01:52:23.77
William Hernandez
and ah February was today, 17th. Come come on guys
01:52:27.76
LJ
who Who cares? Come on. Get a life.
01:52:30.86
William Hernandez
Now, I will give you in in, if he's pitching, let's see, the first spring training games on Saturday. I will obviously watch that because I always watch the first one.
01:52:41.85
William Hernandez
um but If he starts doing this, doing actual games, then maybe we can have a different conversation because at least it's not his teammates. But until then, let's just relax.
01:52:56.93
William Hernandez
All right.
01:52:57.11
LJ
Sometime during the year, Clay Holmes is going back in the bullpen because he's not you he's he's not used to this.
01:53:00.75
William Hernandez
ah Oh, damn. So you're going, you're going to go down even that rabbit hole. Okay.
01:53:06.24
LJ
Yeah, because you know what? they I know it was a different regime, but they banged my man. This is one of the reasons i got rid of Seth Lugo.
01:53:12.29
William Hernandez
Hmm.
01:53:14.41
LJ
But whatever. We see what happens.
01:53:18.85
William Hernandez
Okay. Let's end the show here with a little fun thing. least I think it's fun to think about this a little bit. So I told Lee J, let's do a Mount Rushmore of underrated guys, athletes that we saw
01:53:40.58
William Hernandez
that we saw play. um And there was ah there's a rule to this. You have to pick from baseball, basketball, and football, and then you have one wild card guy.
01:53:55.95
William Hernandez
cause we're not hockey guys. So i was like, we're not going to hockey because that's stupid. We don't know hockey that well. But you know oh you have a wild card guy who can come from ah from any sport. So um yeah, how do you do you want to do you want to go first?
01:54:10.78
William Hernandez
Do you want to do our wild card?
01:54:12.09
LJ
yeah and I'm going do my wild card.
01:54:12.85
William Hernandez
Let's do our wild card guys first.
01:54:15.71
LJ
This is who decided to pick as my wild card. Three out of my four is New York teams.
01:54:21.92
William Hernandez
Actually, i don't I don't have New York. only have one, two guys, half of it.
01:54:24.35
LJ
I couldn't help myself. I couldn't help myself.
01:54:26.33
William Hernandez
No, no, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
01:54:28.31
LJ
So my wild card was Greg Jeffries.
01:54:33.18
William Hernandez
Oh, shit. Interesting.
01:54:35.38
LJ
Greg Jeffries. can remember as a kid.
01:54:37.90
William Hernandez
don't think he was underrated.
01:54:39.64
LJ
hu Big time. As much hype as there was on Greg Jeffries coming up and what he was going to do for the Mets and that never came to fruition?
01:54:41.47
William Hernandez
Interesting.
01:54:45.90
William Hernandez
No, no, but he had to... Yeah, but underrated means that he would say he was actually good.
01:54:51.28
LJ
I thought i you talking about...
01:54:52.86
William Hernandez
No, it's not it's not overrated.
01:54:52.96
LJ
No, did I misunderstand?
01:54:54.38
William Hernandez
I think you understood. this is supposed to be underrated athletes, not overrated. Underrated is like guys that...
01:55:00.81
LJ
I thought when you texted me, you put overrated.
01:55:03.48
William Hernandez
oh God. I hope I didn't put overrated. Let me see.
01:55:06.59
LJ
Let me see.
01:55:07.13
William Hernandez
shit.
01:55:09.84
LJ
I was going by your text message.
01:55:10.45
William Hernandez
shit
01:55:12.08
LJ
Let me see. Maybe I read that wrong. Who knows? That's why I thought it was good.
01:55:20.10
William Hernandez
we might have to We might have to postpone this until next week. Let me see.
01:55:25.05
LJ
Oh my God. Where is it at?
01:55:26.80
William Hernandez
Where is it?
01:55:27.61
LJ
it's It's far back, but I was trying to search it by keyword.
01:55:28.97
William Hernandez
I could have swore I said fucking underrated. Mount Rushmore of underrated players.
01:55:36.56
LJ
see if I can find it this way.
01:55:42.82
LJ
You did.
01:55:43.82
William Hernandez
Ah, you see?
01:55:43.84
LJ
No wait, we made the announcement.
01:55:48.23
William Hernandez
I know I did.
01:55:48.60
LJ
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:55:57.28
William Hernandez
God, we fucking text each other like fucking women. Good lord.
01:56:03.41
LJ
Hold on, I think I found, hold on, give me a second.
01:56:08.43
William Hernandez
By the way, I'm going through all these texts. The fact that you sent me that thing of the ah the chili in the can.
01:56:14.49
LJ
Yeah, because that's right around that time.
01:56:16.34
William Hernandez
that is That is atrocious.
01:56:17.99
LJ
I wanted it to be overrated in my mind. I found it to be better.
01:56:20.41
William Hernandez
That's... Yeah. I think that's what the problem is.
01:56:23.53
LJ
So, so so so um damn, i wonder if i could do this over I wonder if I could do this in my mind real quick.
01:56:25.82
William Hernandez
You know what? You... why don't you just do your overrated and I'll just do my underrated and then we'll just go, we'll just go.
01:56:32.09
LJ
And then we'll switch it up. All right, we could do that.
01:56:33.29
William Hernandez
Yeah. And we can switch it up next week. Yeah.
01:56:35.89
LJ
Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, I can't read English.
01:56:36.09
William Hernandez
Yeah. Here we go. Yeah. Uh, where the hell is it?
01:56:41.89
LJ
I wanted it to be overrated. I thought it would be better.
01:56:43.05
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:56:43.95
LJ
That's why, in my mind, that's why that's why i was thinking about that's why I was thinking about that.
01:56:44.14
William Hernandez
Mount Rushmore. The most. Yeah. Not Mount Rushmore. The most underrated players you've seen play.
01:56:49.67
LJ
No, no, I found it. I found it.
01:56:50.72
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:56:50.95
LJ
It's underrated.
01:56:51.00
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:56:51.73
LJ
In my mind, I said overrated because, to me, that was better.
01:56:51.88
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:56:56.86
William Hernandez
Well, you do overrated, I'll do underrated, and we'll make this work. So go ahead, sir. So Greg Jeffries.
01:57:01.40
LJ
So, get Greg Jeffries, the hype built up around him at that time and what he was going to do for the Mets, and he shat the bed. wind up having, i don't even know what kind of career, to be honest with you.
01:57:12.44
William Hernandez
Oh, God, let's
01:57:12.73
LJ
I just know he didn't have the career that everyone thought he was going to have coming up out of the Mets farm system.
01:57:19.16
William Hernandez
let's... Let's... I'm trying to see what his...
01:57:21.56
LJ
And he came up with a like, he was a flash in the pan real quick. He came up, I remember, me he started off well.
01:57:28.03
LJ
And that's what really got people going. And then Tiller just, everything just came to a screeching halt.
01:57:34.00
William Hernandez
Dude, he was basically out of baseball after like 2000, which is fucking crazy. 87.
01:57:38.89
LJ
Yeah, because he came up one in 87.
01:57:41.29
William Hernandez
Yeah.
01:57:42.67
LJ
Yep.
01:57:42.99
William Hernandez
yeah His first full year was 88.
01:57:48.30
William Hernandez
And then 89.
01:57:52.45
William Hernandez
He actually made All-Star game twice, but he was already with the Cardinals at that point.
01:57:54.90
LJ
I think he was, yeah, he went he treated he got traded to the Cardinals for Tommy Herr, if I'm not mistaken.
01:57:59.99
William Hernandez
Yep, that's right. Good Lord. Yeah. Man, he, um, I'm just like looking at his batting average.
01:58:10.70
William Hernandez
What did he finish with?
01:58:12.72
LJ
I'm going to, uh, that was mostly probably with the Cardinals for us.
01:58:13.94
William Hernandez
nine 29? Ah, that's not terrible. all Yeah.
01:58:18.77
LJ
He's terrible.
01:58:19.60
William Hernandez
yeah
01:58:19.89
LJ
You see, he made it to all sort of games with the Cardinals.
01:58:20.61
William Hernandez
Yeah. Well, you know what the other thing, too, is that when he came up, he didn't get along with, like, Strawberry and Keith and all.
01:58:30.65
William Hernandez
He wasn't like...
01:58:30.77
LJ
Because he probably came up with some cocky young player that thought he was, that his shit didn't stink.
01:58:32.88
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yep.
01:58:35.37
LJ
And you coming around these guys, they're like, yo, hold on, hold hold on here, young buck.
01:58:35.47
William Hernandez
Right. Right.
01:58:39.03
LJ
Yeah.
01:58:39.41
William Hernandez
Yeah. Right. Yeah, exactly.
01:58:43.53
LJ
You need to slow the hell down and know what you're getting into over here. And that's what probably happened.
01:58:50.11
William Hernandez
All right. So my wild card for underrated was my man Bootsy Thornton.
01:58:57.94
LJ
Bootsy drama. St. John's.
01:59:02.58
William Hernandez
Yeah, bro. I just, and Eric will appreciate this because we went to that. It was the first time I think that Duke was playing St. John's at the garden and he dropped like 40 points. I think in that game, St. John's lost, but don't know. I always kind of thought he was like, what are those guys that he can score from anywhere on the court?
01:59:28.89
William Hernandez
So he was underrated in that aspect of it, but he never really panned out in the pro level. Like he went to go play overseas for a while, but he never really got a chance to play, um you know, on on the big time NBA level. And he's like, St. John's had a lot of those guys. Him, LeVar Postel,
01:59:48.62
William Hernandez
ah Tyrone Grant, DeBruyne. They were a bunch. Tariq Turner, Zendon Hamilton, a lot of like underrated guys on the college level, but then when they got to the pros, the some of them never made the pros, and just didn't. It never went anywhere. so
02:00:05.16
LJ
It's hard to explain, but it's you could tell when a person is a really good college basketball player, but it's not going to turn out. They're not NBA caliber. And those guys that you mentioned from St.
02:00:14.34
William Hernandez
Bro, the
02:00:16.84
LJ
John's, I think they fall right into that realm, in my opinion.
02:00:19.99
William Hernandez
The biggest example, Trajan Langdon.
02:00:24.56
LJ
Oh, yeah.
02:00:26.17
William Hernandez
I always go back. I almost had him on this list, like as the wild card. That dude was a fucking assassin at Duke.
02:00:33.73
LJ
He was really good.
02:00:33.83
William Hernandez
But it just it just never translated to the NBA.
02:00:34.33
LJ
and
02:00:38.01
William Hernandez
And the funny thing is, is that I really thought that Steph Curry's game was not going to translate to the NBA. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. sir But bro, but the thing was when he was at Davidson, he was like that Trajan Langdon type of player where he was like shooting the threes all the time. And i was like, oh, this guy's never going to make it in the NBA.
02:01:00.21
William Hernandez
And look what happened. Because how many times have we seen that guy that was like the three point specialist? And guess what happened? He ends up fucking revolutionizing the NBA, the way the NBA is played for better or worse.
02:01:11.40
William Hernandez
So anyway, okay. Who's your next overrated guy? What sport are you going with here?
02:01:18.89
LJ
I'm going to go with basketball.
02:01:21.23
William Hernandez
Okay.
02:01:21.31
LJ
Adam Morrison, Adam Gonzaga.
02:01:23.84
William Hernandez
Oh, wow. That's a good one.
02:01:25.52
LJ
this guy This guy was an NCAA All-Region Consensus All-American. Wooden Award winner. 2005-2006 WCC Player of the Year.
02:01:37.87
LJ
Two-time All-WCC. Two-time All-WC tourney. two ah WCC All-Freshman. Two-time WCC tourney MVP.
02:01:49.91
LJ
Drafted number three in 2006 by the Bobcats.
02:01:52.98
William Hernandez
Yeah, he was drafted number three. Wow.
02:01:55.32
LJ
By the Bobcats.
02:01:59.48
LJ
He played in a career 161 NBA games, 7.5 points, 1.4 assists, 2.1 rebounds. Total rebounds, all offensive, defensive, whatever you want to look at it as.
02:02:11.16
William Hernandez
Yeah.
02:02:13.58
LJ
Listen, and he made it way better than I ever would have been. Give you that, but for what the NBA was, bombed.
02:02:21.85
William Hernandez
Yeah, he did.
02:02:22.77
LJ
He bombed.
02:02:23.97
William Hernandez
He did.
02:02:26.62
LJ
and't remember I remember them there was like some stories about him, but I don't really remember, so I don't really want to say that. But I know he was a diabetic, too.
02:02:32.16
William Hernandez
Right, I remember that. Yes.
02:02:34.60
LJ
But um I just don't think he had the mental fortitude to last in the NBA. And I think that's probably what might be part of his collapse. I'm not 100% sure.
02:02:45.23
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. I agree. That's a good one. All right. My next underrated guy, I'm taking it to baseball, Mark Lemke.
02:03:00.71
LJ
Mark Lemke. Yeah,
02:03:03.54
William Hernandez
Bro, I love that fucking guy.
02:03:09.00
LJ
yeah he was a do-it-all, a little pesky motherfucker that came through in the clutch, big hits, piece of shit.
02:03:09.05
William Hernandez
the thing, that's why. That's why. Yes. So he, um he had, I think he basically made more of a name for himself in the postseason. Because don't forget, he played during that time when the Braves were there all the fucking time.
02:03:31.36
William Hernandez
And i'll ah'll two things here. When you look at some of his stats during that time. 91, he hit 417 in the playoffs for Braves. He played in 11 series. the um for the braves his um eleven he played an eleven series in the playoffs, ended up with a 272 batting average. He hit better in the World Series at 286.
02:03:56.43
William Hernandez
His regular season stats weren't all that great, but that guy was just like... He was consistent. He was more of those specialists in the field, too, back then, especially during that time.
02:04:07.11
LJ
Everybody wants a more glimpy.
02:04:07.37
William Hernandez
but Yeah. and Especially during that time where he was more known for his defense versus his offense. But that guy was... That dude was there all the time, and then he then he somehow showed up and ah you know in these big spots.
02:04:22.80
William Hernandez
He hit 4-17 in that World Series against the the ah Twins in 91, that they lost 4-3, four games to three. And he came...
02:04:32.55
LJ
All right. love that twins team. Jack Morris.
02:04:35.53
William Hernandez
That was a good... That dude looked he 60.
02:04:38.82
LJ
Yeah, and no one could pitch like him, like him, and that they should be ashamed of themselves. Anyway.
02:04:43.61
William Hernandez
Yeah. No, that was... um So yeah, Mark Lemke is my, um, there's so many guys you can go with in baseball because I think baseball out of all the sports I feel is when you have those underrated guys because they're undersized and, you know, Terry Pendleton almost made this list, but I had to hold back.
02:05:06.27
William Hernandez
I went with Mark Lemke instead who tried to come back as a knuckleball pitcher. you remember that? When he tried to do that?
02:05:12.28
LJ
Unbelievable.
02:05:13.71
William Hernandez
All right. What do you got next?
02:05:16.47
LJ
in In my memory, the original Saquon Barkley, but without Saquon Barkley numbers. And what I mean by that, drafted number two in 1990.
02:05:28.45
LJ
Won a national championship in 86.
02:05:30.71
William Hernandez
the fuck is this?
02:05:31.53
LJ
Career rushing yards, 3,301 yards.
02:05:32.40
William Hernandez
Okay.
02:05:35.78
LJ
Total touchdowns, stats were 533 rushing attempts, 2,236 yards 64 games. Blair twenty one rushing two receiving
02:05:44.29
LJ
and and his nfl stats were five hundred and thirty three rushing attempts two thousand two hundred and thirty six yards
02:05:54.71
LJ
on sixty and sixty four games
02:05:58.97
LJ
blair thomas
02:05:59.95
William Hernandez
Oh, wow. For the Jets, right?
02:06:02.24
LJ
For the Jets. That guy wound being a bum.
02:06:06.36
William Hernandez
Damn.
02:06:06.83
LJ
He was awful. I don't care what anyone says. I just read you the numbers. He had less rushing yards in 64 games than he had did his whole career at Penn State.
02:06:20.86
LJ
Granted, he's still there four years, but still.
02:06:22.99
William Hernandez
Right.
02:06:24.59
LJ
Just, I mean, in 1987, he had the most attempts, which was 268. And that's when he had like a 1414 yards that year. But with that being said, he wound up being a freaking, ugh, what an awful pick.
02:06:34.45
William Hernandez
a
02:06:41.99
William Hernandez
I remember...
02:06:41.96
LJ
What an awful pick.
02:06:43.15
William Hernandez
Right, I remember him. I just don't remember much about him.
02:06:46.49
LJ
Yeah.
02:06:47.40
William Hernandez
You know?
02:06:47.57
LJ
Him. Yeah.
02:06:54.33
William Hernandez
Holy shit, bro. That's... ah That's interesting, yeah. Okay, my yeah my basketball guy.
02:07:07.58
LJ
Shaq?
02:07:08.44
William Hernandez
now
02:07:08.53
LJ
Oh, no.
02:07:11.08
William Hernandez
Maybe Jonathan might appreciate this. The man with the goggles.
02:07:16.10
LJ
Oh, God.
02:07:16.39
William Hernandez
Horace Grant.
02:07:17.03
LJ
Horace Grant.
02:07:17.44
William Hernandez
Dude.
02:07:20.84
William Hernandez
dude Bro, that he is he is one of my favorite like alltime players um But the thing was, I kind of feel like he did not get the credit ah throughout his career.
02:07:40.01
William Hernandez
He was on... um So four times he placed on the Defensive Player of the Year rankings. He never won right? He was only a one-time All-Star. That was in the 93-94 season. That was the only time he made the he made the All-Star team. But, bro, he was a fucking force...
02:07:57.93
William Hernandez
For those Bulls teams, you know, he just was. And he always had that sweet-ass fucking jumper from the top of the key. that That was like his spot. In the same way we just talked about this guy from St. John's for the free throw, Horvitz Grant's spot shooting jumpers was the top of the key.
02:08:14.42
William Hernandez
And he was he was successful, you know, most of the time. But he scored double. He averaged double-digit points. ah it's almost his whole career.
02:08:25.54
William Hernandez
Now, as he got older, and when he got to Orlando, you know, he started, he wasn't as effective, but, you know, he still helped him to the playoffs um when he was there in Orlando. So, yeah, he's always going to be that guy that didn't get enough credit when he was out there, but I felt like he was a big part of Good teams, especially, obviously, duh, with the Bulls.
02:08:57.27
William Hernandez
So he averaged 11.2 points a game. He played 17 years, dude. It's a lot. It's a long time. He had a long fucking career. So, so yeah, Horace Grant, baby.
02:09:13.20
William Hernandez
do you got? Is this your last one?
02:09:15.06
LJ
This is my last one. Selected number one in 1991 by the New York Yankees.
02:09:22.13
William Hernandez
Oh, I know who this is.
02:09:23.63
LJ
Never went above double a
02:09:27.85
LJ
Heard his shoulder. Two full season of mine is after getting to a bar fight with someone idiot. And I just remember there being so much hype with this kid.
02:09:37.01
William Hernandez
yup I remember too.
02:09:37.60
LJ
he was He was all over New York newspaper.
02:09:37.77
William Hernandez
Yes.
02:09:40.19
William Hernandez
Yep.
02:09:40.49
LJ
and I'm not mistaken, sport it was everywhere. i could It was like enough already. And then it got to the point where not even as a Yankee fan, I was waiting to see this guy pitch. And he never pitched in the majors.
02:09:49.97
William Hernandez
Right, never.
02:09:51.30
LJ
Brian Taylor.
02:09:52.29
William Hernandez
Yep. Damn. Who? who Yeah, it sucks.
02:09:56.71
LJ
it's a want a It winds up being, because he never, at least, you know, sometimes they at least get to pitch in it. He never pitched in the majors.
02:10:03.03
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.
02:10:03.79
LJ
Never went, I'm looking at it right now. He never went above ah double A. but Not even AAA? He hurt his shoulder after that fight, and I think everything just went downhill after that.
02:10:12.92
William Hernandez
Remember that? i remember that.
02:10:15.02
LJ
Yep, yep. That thing made the news, and especially him being drafted number one, and he tried to make these comebacks, and it just never panned out. and And that's why I say all this hype around somebody without you letting them do what they have to do, they want them falling into these rabbit holes or these these dark places where people now judge them, like me, and say,
02:10:38.41
LJ
Because everyone else, your career didn't turn out the way it's supposed to turn out because what they told us wasn't true.
02:10:40.23
William Hernandez
Right.
02:10:44.92
William Hernandez
Right. And you made a dumb mistake by getting into a fucking fight and you fucking wrecked your shoulder.
02:10:49.36
LJ
That's definitely your fault. He's 53 now.
02:10:50.98
William Hernandez
Yeah, it is.
02:10:51.72
LJ
Yep. 53. He was born 1971.
02:10:53.11
William Hernandez
Bro, he's 53 now.
02:10:54.46
LJ
he's fifty three now Yep.
02:10:54.59
William Hernandez
God damn.
02:10:56.32
LJ
fifty three nineteen he was born nineteen seventy one
02:10:56.52
William Hernandez
yeah and And the thing is, like, I'm looking at his career stats in the minors. 22 and 30 with a 5.12 ERA. Damn, bro. but a five point one two era
02:11:07.74
LJ
yeahp
02:11:08.94
William Hernandez
tambre
02:11:09.03
LJ
He actually wasn't as good as everyone thought he was.
02:11:12.84
William Hernandez
A 6'3 lefty. Those don't come around very often at all.
02:11:18.18
LJ
I just remember all the hype. And I was what, 1991? I was 14. I still remember that all the hype around this guy.
02:11:25.20
William Hernandez
it was the first pick and in the that draft that year in 91.
02:11:28.09
LJ
There's certain things that really stick out in my mind.
02:11:28.19
William Hernandez
Oh, my God.
02:11:29.89
LJ
That, I remember the three-headed monster the Mets had, Isringhausen, Pulsifer.
02:11:34.22
William Hernandez
oh my god
02:11:36.01
LJ
um Who was the other guy? God damn it. It's not coming to me right now. Paul Wilson.
02:11:40.18
William Hernandez
Oh, Paul Wilson. I had the poster. had the poster in my room.
02:11:42.98
LJ
Yeah, they were on three. They were all holding it, whatever, holding the ball right on the Sports Illustrated cover.
02:11:45.42
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yes. Yes. I had the poster. Yes.
02:11:48.66
LJ
There's just things that stick out. This kid, Brian Taylor, sticks out of my mind as a 14-year-old kid after seeing all that hype about him.
02:11:55.41
William Hernandez
Yeah.
02:11:57.53
LJ
And it just so happened he has to be a Yankee, so don't kill me. It just happens to be that way. That's what I remember.
02:12:03.31
William Hernandez
you know You know, it's funny.
02:12:05.36
LJ
You're lucky I didn't say Derek Jeter.
02:12:05.41
William Hernandez
You know what? Yeah.
02:12:09.36
William Hernandez
Sir, come on. I would have cut that out of the podcast. You know who else what else sticks out to me? It's kind of around that same period. Maybe kind of.
02:12:20.31
William Hernandez
And Eric and I were talking about this the other day. Remember Danny Almonte?
02:12:24.16
LJ
Nanny Almonte, too. he They found out he was actually 47 when he was pitching in the Little League World Series.
02:12:33.03
William Hernandez
you remember how big of a deal that was?
02:12:33.19
LJ
Too much fucking platanos.
02:12:37.58
LJ
Yeah.
02:12:38.15
William Hernandez
That whole shit?
02:12:39.41
LJ
They had they had him. over They already had him. but I think he had like four baby moms. He was on child support, but he was pitching in the Little League World Series.
02:12:49.39
William Hernandez
Holy these shit, dude.
02:12:52.19
LJ
And and and the Little League World Series blew up at that time.
02:12:52.64
William Hernandez
oh
02:12:55.47
LJ
i was watching that shit.
02:12:55.79
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah, so was I.
02:12:57.42
LJ
Yeah.
02:12:57.65
William Hernandez
Yeah. yeah That was the one at a time where it was like popular. um There was a point in like the 90s where the Little League World Series was just like the shit for for a while there.
02:13:09.55
William Hernandez
so Oh, that's right.
02:13:10.06
LJ
He was like this this guy too, not kid, because he wasn't a kid when they found old Freddie Adu.
02:13:16.55
LJ
Didn't they find out he was older than what he was?
02:13:18.42
William Hernandez
I think so.
02:13:18.84
LJ
He was like a grown-ass little African man.
02:13:19.59
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah.
02:13:23.49
LJ
Trying to play soccer against kids.
02:13:27.71
William Hernandez
Oh, but he didn't really have that good of a career either. Cause I think he came.
02:13:30.46
LJ
No, but that what I'm saying, with the hype that was behind until they found out about his age and all this other stuff, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada.
02:13:31.95
William Hernandez
Right. Yes. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when he was trying to play in the MLS. Um, that was a, you know, that was a big, a big story.
02:13:45.70
William Hernandez
it's hard to believe that MLS has been around for as long as it has been. Anyway, my football guy, i mean, this is you'll appreciate this. It's great. It's Wayne Corbett.
02:13:54.36
LJ
Oh, definitely. That's my guy.
02:13:56.58
William Hernandez
How could it not be
02:13:58.06
LJ
I love that guy.
02:13:58.36
William Hernandez
That dude did even as a, as a giants fan, you know, you appreciated what he did. Um, you know, at, at his, at his fucking size.
02:14:13.18
William Hernandez
Um, he I think he was ah shorter than 5'10". There's no way he was 5'10".
02:14:19.06
LJ
and he wasn't five.
02:14:19.29
William Hernandez
He
02:14:19.74
LJ
There's no way. yeah He was probably like 5'8", maybe. Maybe 5'. but five
02:14:23.59
William Hernandez
might have been the same.
02:14:25.32
LJ
He was 5'10 on heels.
02:14:25.77
William Hernandez
Yeah. No, right.
02:14:29.84
LJ
i think those guys ah I think guys like that are more appreciated because the regular guy that plays sports growing up, or not even the regular, just a working man, he's more relatable. These 6'8 guys are not the norm.
02:14:40.60
William Hernandez
yeah
02:14:43.08
LJ
6'10.
02:14:43.26
William Hernandez
now right
02:14:44.85
LJ
These big receivers like Calvin Johnson, they're not the norm.
02:14:48.39
William Hernandez
Yeah.
02:14:49.03
LJ
People like him are you know ah the norm of regular society, but then when you have a good football career, one of the craziest sports to play, and he had and he was successful at it at his size, it makes us appreciate him more.
02:15:01.76
William Hernandez
Right.
02:15:04.78
William Hernandez
Right.
02:15:05.40
LJ
And that's how you can see now the Wes Welkers and the Julian e Edelmans.
02:15:05.47
William Hernandez
Not.
02:15:08.03
William Hernandez
Right. Right.
02:15:09.34
LJ
These are all the same type but same type of guys. You're like, damn, they're so small, but they took hits by these monster freaking guys that were 10 times their size. But yeah, that's that's a good one because that's my guy, Wayne Corbett.
02:15:21.33
William Hernandez
And I think the other thing that added to it, he went to fucking Hofstra, bro.
02:15:24.09
LJ
He went to Hofstra.
02:15:24.43
William Hernandez
Like, what?
02:15:28.17
LJ
Yep.
02:15:28.62
William Hernandez
And I think I only knew about Hofstra because of him. That I knew Hofstra existed.
02:15:34.60
LJ
Yep.
02:15:34.73
William Hernandez
And that was actually one of the schools that I applied to. And I think it was because of him, because he brought recognition to that school to where people knew, oh yeah, Hofstra's on Long Island. Oh shit, that might be an option for me to go to school, so...
02:15:48.40
LJ
I think um Willie Colon went there too, but I figured he might have had a better chance to make the NFL, which he did because he was a bigger guy.
02:15:53.09
William Hernandez
Yeah, he was fucking huge.
02:15:53.42
LJ
He was a lineman. I think Speedy Claxton went there too, no?
02:15:57.74
William Hernandez
Yeah, he did. yep He coached there for a while.
02:15:59.67
LJ
And he wound up having a decent NBA career.
02:16:03.60
William Hernandez
Let me see. Willie Colon, where did he go to school? He went to school.
02:16:05.91
LJ
I think he went to Hofstra.
02:16:08.36
William Hernandez
Yeah, he went to Hofstra. Yep.
02:16:09.55
LJ
Yep.
02:16:10.80
William Hernandez
And he went to Cardinal Hayes for high school.
02:16:12.37
LJ
Yep, in the Bronx.
02:16:15.37
William Hernandez
Yeah, he's from the Bronx.
02:16:16.63
LJ
Yep.
02:16:17.05
William Hernandez
He's only 41. Damn. damn I thought he was older than that.
02:16:21.61
LJ
No, no, that sounds about right. 41, that sounds about right.
02:16:25.93
William Hernandez
yeah Doesn't he do the postgame?
02:16:28.07
LJ
He does a pre post game. Mm-hmm.
02:16:30.22
William Hernandez
Right, on SMY?
02:16:32.07
LJ
He has his own podcast with a friend of his, and then he does spots, spots like shows with ah on FAN and stuff like that.
02:16:32.31
William Hernandez
Yeah.
02:16:39.40
William Hernandez
By the way, going back to height, because it just reminded me, a quick story before we end here. ah Dustin Pedroia. So, he's listed 5'9".
02:16:48.61
LJ
Oh, yeah.
02:16:49.69
William Hernandez
me tell you something.
02:16:51.64
LJ
He's not 5'9".
02:16:52.52
William Hernandez
let me tell you something
02:16:54.10
LJ
I don't think so.
02:16:54.99
William Hernandez
And I will tell you why he's not 5'9".
02:16:57.42
LJ
and Why, you stood next to him?
02:16:58.54
William Hernandez
Yes, I distinctly remember when he was in the minor leagues and he was playing for the Portland Seadogs. That's the minor league team that plays in Portland. And they were in the league, the Eastern League.
02:17:09.00
William Hernandez
It's not a thing anymore. And he came down and played. At the time, they were ah Giants affiliate. And usually I made the habit of gold talking to the guys who were considered top prospects.
02:17:23.57
William Hernandez
And he was considered a top prospect at the time. I walk into the locker room. he's He's in the corner. He's sitting down. And I walk over to him and I introduce myself. Hey, you know, from the local paper here, just want to whatever, get your thoughts on the game.
02:17:36.45
William Hernandez
He stood up. Bro, we were eye to eye.
02:17:42.71
William Hernandez
And I'm like I'm like 5'7", okay?
02:17:42.69
LJ
So you can just figure out how long, how tall William is.
02:17:45.42
William Hernandez
In that range.
02:17:48.11
William Hernandez
okay in in that range And they listed him as 5'9". I think earlier in his career, he was listed as 5'10". Let me tell you guys something right now.
02:17:57.99
LJ
You can see him and I saw that on television.
02:17:58.07
William Hernandez
Dustin Pedroia not that bad. I think it's like, oh, shit. That was when I kind of learned about the whole thing about, oh, yeah, because I distinctly remember going back to the clubhouse ah a press box and the other guy from the other paper was there. And I'm like, yeah, Dustin Borgiora is like my height. And he's like, yeah, they usually – this is when I was kind of more early on in my sports career.
02:18:22.24
William Hernandez
And he was like, yeah, a lot of teams purposely lie about the ah height.
02:18:25.43
LJ
Yes, it's a thing. I forget the reasoning, but they used to do it with John Starks.
02:18:27.04
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah.
02:18:29.06
LJ
They used to list him at He wasn't six five
02:18:30.85
William Hernandez
Right. No. he yeah Exactly.
02:18:34.26
LJ
He's not 6'5".
02:18:35.92
William Hernandez
Holy shit.
02:18:36.91
LJ
Yeah, so they do that with a lot of guys, but yeah.
02:18:37.01
William Hernandez
Anyway. Yeah. I thought that was because it just reminded me of he had Dustin Portrari. I'll never forget that in the locker room. So. All right. Well, I'm surprised we won as long as we did.
02:18:48.54
William Hernandez
um That's going to do it for us this week. on two dummies that just watch a sports podcast between friends. Thanks again for tuning in.
02:19:01.48
William Hernandez
a shout out to everybody who, um, we actually got a pretty good amount of healthy people downloading the Superbowl, uh, podcast episode from last week, the fly Eagles five.
02:19:13.72
William Hernandez
Uh, so we had somebody from Ghana, by the way. yeah, Still trying to figure that out. Anyway, i am Will Hernandez here.
02:19:24.42
LJ
Oh, wait, hold on, hold on.
02:19:24.77
William Hernandez
Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. What happened?
02:19:26.74
LJ
We have a little breaking news here and the SNY TV page.
02:19:28.54
William Hernandez
Oh, shit. What happened?
02:19:32.53
LJ
Frankie Montaz to be shut down for a significant stretch of time.
02:19:34.30
William Hernandez
No, don't.
02:19:38.12
William Hernandez
Stop it.
02:19:39.07
LJ
I'm reading it right now.
02:19:39.26
William Hernandez
You're kidding me. You're kidding me.
02:19:41.29
LJ
Right here, ladies and gentlemen. Look at the screen.
02:19:44.96
William Hernandez
Oh, Jesus Christ.
02:19:48.29
LJ
it is unclear It is unclear what Montaz's injury is.
02:19:48.50
William Hernandez
Here we go.
02:19:53.03
William Hernandez
I'm looking at it right now.
02:19:54.07
LJ
And what a timetable could look like for his return.
02:19:56.53
William Hernandez
Bro, they're saying he's not going to throw for six to eight weeks.
02:20:00.67
LJ
The ace of the staff, 17 million.
02:20:03.49
William Hernandez
Oh, here we go. It says it right here. I found it. High-grade latch strain.
02:20:10.42
LJ
I will not get it. i we We are ending right now and I'm not gonna get into this because I really wanna just start bashing a lot of people, but i'm a better I've learned to be a better person at 47 years old in the year 2025.
02:20:19.57
William Hernandez
Wait. eric I'll guess...
02:20:23.38
William Hernandez
Guess who just texted me? He texted me about one o'clock.
02:20:25.36
LJ
Eric.
02:20:27.38
William Hernandez
Yeah. He texted me about it.
02:20:29.86
LJ
God bless you, Eric.
02:20:29.90
William Hernandez
Oh.
02:20:32.78
William Hernandez
And on that note, we will see you next week. Peace out.
02:20:37.75
LJ
Later.