87. In Defense of Bill Belichick

On this episode of Two Dummies That Just Watch, we kick things off with the 2026 Pro Football Hall of Fame voting controversy — and how the process may have kept Bill Belichick out on the first ballot (including the “80% / 40-of-50 selectors” detail and why the Hall put out a warning about leaks). We also get into the Eli Manning debate and what “first ballot” really means in the NFL context. 

From there, we shift to Super Bowl 60 with preview of  the New England Patriots vs. the Seattle Seahawks — including the Vegas line, over/under, and our picks 

And because it’s Super Bowl week, we close with a super-fun Mt. Rushmore of memorable Super Bowls, hitting everything from the Super Bowl LI comeback to Super Bowl XLVI, plus classic moments like the blackout game and the John Elway “helicopter” play. 

Transcript

00:00:01.06
William Hernandez
Greetings and salutations, and welcome back to Two Dummies That Just Watch, a sports podcast between friends. This is episode number 87.

00:00:13.69
William Hernandez
I am one of your hosts, Will Hernandez, and we have the whole crew here today. i don't think anybody here has been in the Epstein files, as far as I can tell.

00:00:26.36
William Hernandez
But yes, Mr. Eric Pimentel, sir, introduce you first. How's it going? How's the snow? How's the winter weather down in in the dirty south?

00:00:39.26
Erik Pimentel
I think we're going to get to how my weekend was in a second. So you'll...

00:00:43.54
William Hernandez
Yes. Yeah. You and I have both had shit fucking weekends as far as our vehicles are concerned. And then, of course, Mr. Lijay Perilla.

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William Hernandez
Sir, what's going on How are you doing?

00:00:58.78
LeeJay
Howdy.

00:01:01.07
William Hernandez
That's it. Just just howdy, huh? That's all you got?

00:01:02.92
LeeJay
That's it. That's all I got.

00:01:04.00
William Hernandez
That's all you got. Okay. Gotcha. ah Eric, tell talk to me about the weather. How's it going? What's looking like today?

00:01:12.95
Erik Pimentel
as As nuts as it was this weekend, I barely see snow now out looking out my window.

00:01:19.58
William Hernandez
insane to me.

00:01:20.73
Erik Pimentel
I hardly see nothing, which is which is insane. So this weekend, Buford, where I live, got the most six inches of snow on Saturday.

00:01:30.37
William Hernandez
That's crazy. That is insane to me.

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Erik Pimentel
That's the most snow. Honestly, this winter has been the coldest winter. I've been living here for 13 years. This has been the coldest winter I've experienced so far here, out here.

00:01:41.04
William Hernandez
Jeez.

00:01:42.10
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. But, but, but yeah, it it was a ah crazy weekend.

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William Hernandez
My God.

00:01:47.13
Erik Pimentel
It kind of all started. So it's go back like a week. So I was having some problems with my truck. Like the check engine light kept coming on and cutting off, cutting on, cutting off. So I just said, you know what? I'm just going to take it, take it in. haven't looked at, I brought it in on a Thursday and the guy goes, okay, we're going to need it for 24 to 48 hours. It's diagnostic. All of this nonsense. I'm all right, whatever.

00:02:09.13
Erik Pimentel
I'll take my wife. I'll use my wife's car for a couple of days. I'll be good. So when I needed my truck, I didn't have it because it started snowing here. And they were saying it was going to be one to two inches of dusting snow. That's what they said.

00:02:24.76
Erik Pimentel
So i'm like, all right.

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William Hernandez
Of course. Yeah, yeah.

00:02:27.19
Erik Pimentel
So Saturday, my wife had an appointment to to go to physical therapy. So I said, all right, you know what? I'll drop you off. that It was snowing, but it was like very little. So i was like, I'll drop you off.

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Erik Pimentel
And then from there, I'll go to the gym, which is like another 10 minutes down from where she was at. So by the time I went to the gym, worked out for like an hour, I came out of there and it was a nightmare. A one hour difference. It was crazy.

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Erik Pimentel
So I started driving the same way I took which is, you know, it's it it was cutting through some neighborhoods. There's a lot of hills.

00:02:59.96
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:03:00.12
Erik Pimentel
So, but going there, I had no problem. So I said, i mean I'm going to take the same route going back. And bro, I just started sliding down a hill.

00:03:08.15
William Hernandez
Jesus, bro. Yeah,

00:03:09.24
Erik Pimentel
And when I get, and you know, we've we've we've all grew up in snowy weather and ice, we've all slid, but I've never slid down a hill before, which is scary as hell.

00:03:14.62
William Hernandez
ah yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah.

00:03:18.51
William Hernandez
That's scary. Yeah, it is.

00:03:19.70
Erik Pimentel
this this The scary part was there were five cars at the bottom of the hill that was already stuck.

00:03:27.51
Erik Pimentel
So I'm like, okay, how am I not gonna hit these cars?

00:03:27.62
William Hernandez
bro.

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William Hernandez
Right, yeah.

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Erik Pimentel
So my first thought was, I'm just going to swing it all the way to the right. going to hit the curb. The curb is going to slow me down. So when I hit the curb, one of the tires but bust, and and I just kept sliding.

00:03:44.50
William Hernandez
Damn. Damn.

00:03:46.78
Erik Pimentel
So my last ditch effort to avoid these cars was to turn to the right. And it was perfect, because as I turned to the right, I slid into a neighborhood.

00:03:58.68
Erik Pimentel
which I slid into the neighborhood, right? And there was a guy there. His house was there. and He was just watching people slide down his house.

00:04:05.43
William Hernandez
course, yeah, of course he was.

00:04:06.20
Erik Pimentel
And he tells me, he says, you may want to move up because you weren't the only car that did this. So I moved up about 15 feet. And right after I moved up, this Infiniti Jeep just smashed into a brick wall next to me.

00:04:20.35
William Hernandez
Oh, damn! Yeah.

00:04:21.65
LeeJay
Okay.

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Erik Pimentel
So moral of the story, out here, even though I'm used to driving in weather and snowy weather like that, out here, since they don't you know salt the roads and stuff like that, there's a lot of hills.

00:04:29.08
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:04:34.30
William Hernandez
yeah

00:04:34.33
Erik Pimentel
And that's the problem that lies when when it's when it's ice and snow out here, where people don't know how to drive in the snow, and it's a combination of hills and ice.

00:04:42.07
William Hernandez
Yeah.

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Erik Pimentel
So my wife's car was stuck there. I couldn't move it. The tire was burst. I couldn't, if even if I change the tire, I won't be able to get up or down that hill. So it wasn't until this, later that weekend, yesterday, which is I changed the tire.

00:04:53.00
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

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Erik Pimentel
And then this morning I moved the car because all the snow melted.

00:05:02.68
William Hernandez
Holy shit, dude.

00:05:03.64
Erik Pimentel
And then finally I got, and and then after I had to go so discount tire, buy my wife four new tires, which I might like five something.

00:05:09.66
William Hernandez
Ugh!

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Erik Pimentel
And then And then my truck finally got fixed. They called me up. That was another bill like $300. So I'm out almost a grand with for this nonsense.

00:05:21.77
William Hernandez
Damn.

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Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:05:23.27
LeeJay
Burn Beaufort down.

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William Hernandez
worish

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Erik Pimentel
Oh,

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William Hernandez
What a shit show, dude. Yeah.

00:05:29.13
Erik Pimentel
it was crazy.

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William Hernandez
when you would When you shared that picture of the hill, see the thing is like, I, Lee, Jay and I probably see that and we're like, Oh, that doesn't look bad.

00:05:33.37
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:05:38.84
William Hernandez
But then it's like, Oh no, don't forget what happened. Like you guys are not like prepared for that at all.

00:05:45.56
Erik Pimentel
Not at all.

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William Hernandez
Damn.

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Erik Pimentel
Yeah. and And like I said, I wasn't the only one.

00:05:48.25
William Hernandez
Well, the,

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Erik Pimentel
They were like, I was maybe like the sixth or seventh car that started sliding down that hill. And then after I got out, there were more cars sliding. So I called my stepson. was like, listen, you need to come get me, but you can't you can't come around here.

00:06:03.87
Erik Pimentel
I needed to walk. That was another disaster. So I needed to walk about two miles and I just got out the gym.

00:06:10.16
William Hernandez
Right.

00:06:11.27
Erik Pimentel
So all I had was a hoodie and shorts.

00:06:13.86
William Hernandez
Oh, God.

00:06:14.87
Erik Pimentel
In like 17 degree weather, I walked about two miles and I was cool up until I slipped and fell.

00:06:21.76
William Hernandez
Oh, my God.

00:06:22.00
LeeJay
Ah.

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Erik Pimentel
I slipped and fell, landed on my back. And then, you know, I got landed on all that snow and then my hands started freezing. And I still had to walk i about another mile.

00:06:32.09
William Hernandez
damn

00:06:33.04
Erik Pimentel
Bro, it was a disaster. Saturday was a disaster.

00:06:35.26
William Hernandez
That must have been a ah visual. You got this fucking guy walking around with ah with the, you know, a prosthetic leg.

00:06:37.78
Erik Pimentel
ah

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Erik Pimentel
Prosthetic leg.

00:06:43.50
LeeJay
They probably thought he was fucking Robocop.

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Erik Pimentel
in the In the snow.

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William Hernandez
That's awesome.

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Erik Pimentel
Bro, the funny thing is the owner of the house that I parked in front of, he saw me come out the car and he's like, bro, you want some sweatpants or something? I'm like, nah, I'm good, brother.

00:06:57.36
Erik Pimentel
I appreciate it, but I'm good.

00:06:59.61
LeeJay
Not here.

00:07:00.44
Erik Pimentel
ah

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William Hernandez
that's awesome

00:07:03.20
LeeJay
911, colored man in my neighborhood. And there's something wrong with his leg. It looks like a machine gun.

00:07:09.78
Erik Pimentel
I got a shotgun strap to his leg.

00:07:13.53
LeeJay
Get the fuck out of here.

00:07:15.22
William Hernandez
Damn.

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LeeJay
I don't know, man. Sometimes these states or these cities that are not equipped for this stuff, if you know that... I always feel like if you know these things are coming, it's said, whether it hits or misses you, these this stuff doesn't spoil.

00:07:27.31
LeeJay
It doesn't go bad. You could keep it wherever forever, just in case didn't sound like this.

00:07:28.58
William Hernandez
Yeah.

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Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

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William Hernandez
Yeah.

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LeeJay
Why do we wait for the... to the let whether you're Whether you're used to this or not, like... is To me, that's irrelevant because this stuff, you could get it and keep it.

00:07:41.09
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

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LeeJay
It doesn't go bad.

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Erik Pimentel
yeah

00:07:43.17
LeeJay
Meanwhile, you go through this shit show and it's so it's terrible, man. and And it's like they don't learn their lesson.

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Erik Pimentel
Yeah. and And in my case, it was crazy i because my where I got stuck, it wasn't a main road because I cut through this this huge subdivision. So to get to the other side of where my gym is instead of me going all the way around, which is what I should have did.

00:08:04.28
Erik Pimentel
So that those little tiny roads, they don't they're not going to, even if they had snow, they weren't going down that.

00:08:04.43
LeeJay
Mm-hmm.

00:08:09.11
Erik Pimentel
The snow plows weren't going down that street anyway. So, yeah.

00:08:12.31
William Hernandez
Right, yeah. That makes sense. By the way, apparently the NFL isn't a look into the Steve Tisch situation with him being in the Epstein files. So...

00:08:24.15
William Hernandez
Yeah, in case anybody is not aware by now, the government, the Justice Department released about three million files over the weekend, and people are still combing through them. And apparently, Giants co-owner Steve Tisch was having back and forth with Epstein about God knows fucking what, so...

00:08:44.89
William Hernandez
Let's see what happens with that. That's probably something the Giants don't want the attention for right now.

00:08:47.33
Erik Pimentel
Not

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William Hernandez
It's funny because I see people like, oh, he's got to sell his stake in the Giants. And I'm like, don't think it's to be that easy. You know?

00:09:02.29
LeeJay
Yes, he has family anyway.

00:09:02.35
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:09:02.42
Erik Pimentel
ah yet.

00:09:03.65
LeeJay
The family has nothing to do with it. They could take they could take over.

00:09:06.52
William Hernandez
Exactly. Yeah. So I don't think...

00:09:07.74
LeeJay
I want to say something real quick because I don't really want to get into this. Things like this make me uncomfortable. But those are the same people that want John Gruden back.

00:09:15.15
Erik Pimentel
Oh, boy.

00:09:18.39
Erik Pimentel
Listen, Robert...

00:09:18.74
LeeJay
Meanwhile, he said some, you know, vile things.

00:09:18.78
William Hernandez
we'll get it

00:09:19.07
Erik Pimentel
Robert robert robert Kraft got her caught a rub and tug, and nobody talks about that anymore.

00:09:21.69
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:09:22.29
LeeJay
We're not going to get into that. But these are the same people that want John Gruden back.

00:09:23.53
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah. Yes.

00:09:25.62
LeeJay
And whatever. I'll leave it at that.

00:09:26.52
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:09:31.86
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah.

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Erik Pimentel
i no Nobody even mentions that anymore.

00:09:32.46
William Hernandez
No. No. Yeah, that's true.

00:09:36.15
Erik Pimentel
Who knows?

00:09:36.74
William Hernandez
That's not something that's talked about anymore.

00:09:36.89
Erik Pimentel
Who knows?

00:09:38.46
William Hernandez
So ah anyway, so I had my own car situation happen.

00:09:43.99
LeeJay
All right.

00:09:44.81
William Hernandez
I'm not going to go into too many details about it, but let's just say. um My car got knocked into by the local plow guy who was plowing the so the driveway here.

00:09:58.46
William Hernandez
And it was a slow thing that that finally i got all the details. Everything came to light today. This happened on Wednesday afternoon between noon and 2.30.

00:10:10.78
William Hernandez
I didn't see the damage until Friday night. Until I got back from the city because I was hanging out with Lijay and Cesar in the city.

00:10:21.66
William Hernandez
And kudos to Lijay for telling me to check my car every single time I come out. Which is so actually something I usually used to do in Boston when you park in the fucking street. You know?

00:10:32.05
William Hernandez
Kind of do like a once around the car before you go in. But I didn't notice it. So put two and two together. I took the fucking car to the auto body shop today. And I'm talking to the guy and I said, let me ask you something.

00:10:44.63
William Hernandez
I said, do you think a snowplow could have caused this? He's like, he was like, the first thing he said was, a car did not cause this. Because he said if there would have been a car, you would have seen the paint from the car would have been on on your, arm on the side of the car. and And Eric, you even said it when I sent you the picture. You were like, that was not a car.

00:11:05.75
William Hernandez
That caused that, that caused that damage.

00:11:06.65
LeeJay
The only way that was a car...

00:11:08.02
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:11:08.12
LeeJay
Bro, when you send me that picture, you know me. if My little cop instinct. I like to do that shit. So I zoomed in on the thing and I'm looking at the thing. I'm looking at whatever. The first thing I thought, because you... Remember, you first thought it happened in parking in the So there's not enough maneuvering around there.

00:11:19.33
William Hernandez
I did in a parking lot, in the parking garage at the green station.

00:11:23.13
LeeJay
So the only way that could have been a car, if they backed into you or they hit you head on because of the way the dent was smashed in.

00:11:24.83
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:11:28.84
Erik Pimentel
It's almost like a circle dent.

00:11:30.39
William Hernandez
yeah yeah yeah

00:11:30.62
LeeJay
It didn't come from the side. Yeah, it was a circle dent.

00:11:32.44
William Hernandez
yeah yeah yeah

00:11:34.71
LeeJay
But there's not enough room And the way those cars park in those parking lots are angled. Nobody backed into your car or forwarded into your car. And that's where the mystery began.

00:11:44.38
William Hernandez
Now, so I thought, and here's the thing, when I got back from the train station, they were actually removing snow. So my first instinct was, shit, maybe the fucking MTA people hit the car with the snowplow.

00:11:58.20
William Hernandez
And then I started finding out more details. My fucking neighbor, she she was the one that was in the hospital, LeeJ, that texted me. She texted me when she got back on Friday. She goes, oh, I've been meaning to ask you, who hit your car? And i'm like...

00:12:11.67
William Hernandez
Oh, shit. So this happened before Friday. And then today, her fiance texted me and said that they left. They were out between noon and 2.30.

00:12:25.37
William Hernandez
And when they had left, the plow hadn't come yet. But when they got back at 2.30, the plow had come and they had noticed the damage. and I'm like, oh, here we go.

00:12:38.17
William Hernandez
So I got a long story short. The, ah the, the insurance, they're already, it's your point. They already approved it. They're already doing the insurance, the, the insurance improved the approved the the work.

00:12:53.34
William Hernandez
I emailed the guy back based off of our conversation today.

00:12:56.76
LeeJay
No, they're going to approve the work because they're going to get paid.

00:12:59.19
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:12:59.24
LeeJay
They can, you know what I'm saying?

00:12:59.59
William Hernandez
Right.

00:13:00.32
LeeJay
my my My point was, what are they saying on their report?

00:13:00.47
William Hernandez
Right. So I,

00:13:04.10
LeeJay
Because remember, they don't they they can't they can't say a plow hit your car.

00:13:04.60
William Hernandez
Right. That's the thing. Yeah.

00:13:07.86
LeeJay
They don't know that.

00:13:08.34
William Hernandez
Right. Right.

00:13:09.11
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:13:09.14
William Hernandez
So.

00:13:09.24
LeeJay
So unless someone exactly says, I saw a plow hit his car, that's why I told it's going to get a little sketchy if the landlord wants to fight back.

00:13:16.54
William Hernandez
Well, that's, that's the thing. Yeah. So I, I emailed the guy today and I said, Hey God, you know, I told him, Hey, thanks for your help this morning. You know, here's the situation. What do you think I should do?

00:13:27.35
William Hernandez
So he was like, you got contact the the insurance company.

00:13:31.17
LeeJay
Keep on talking, I gotta check something in the oven.

00:13:32.44
William Hernandez
Yeah. He was like, you got to contact the insurance company. Tell them exactly what happened, what you told me. And he ease's did it it say he did say at the end, what you're telling me makes sense.

00:13:44.12
William Hernandez
about the damage and everything. Cause he was, he was the appraiser. Like he looked, he was looking at it. It was like, that's not a car that did this, you know? So i don't know.

00:13:51.18
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

00:13:52.42
William Hernandez
It's just a shit show because like you were saying the other day, now I got to deal with the fucking insurance, you know?

00:13:57.40
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, so.

00:13:58.10
William Hernandez
I want to get, and I told, want to get, cause Lee J suggested, let me get something official from the insurance company and then send that to the landlord and be like, Hey brother.

00:14:10.54
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

00:14:10.97
William Hernandez
and mean, this is, I'm not saying it's your fault.

00:14:14.36
Erik Pimentel
But you hired this guy.

00:14:14.43
William Hernandez
But you hired this person and they fucked up.

00:14:17.30
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:14:18.34
William Hernandez
So I don't know, man. It's just the the thing is, too, guys, for those who are unaware of where I live, and I would say the same thing probably goes for it for Eric because LeeJ not as much because in the city.

00:14:30.17
William Hernandez
Being without a car in this area for two to three weeks sucks.

00:14:34.77
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, it does.

00:14:35.26
William Hernandez
So now I got to figure out my rental situation. I'm not going to rent anything until the end of a week because I'm trying to like, okay, if I can get through most of a week without without one, then maybe I've only got to rent one for two weeks because my my policy didn't include car rental.

00:14:51.77
William Hernandez
And I should have changed that when I moved here, but I didn't because I was living in a city. So if anything happened to my car, didn't it it didn't really matter. I could just use the fucking public transit.

00:15:00.35
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

00:15:00.44
William Hernandez
I don't have that case up here. You know, that's not the case up here. So... You know, that's my fault. But Geico does do discounts for Enterprise. And the woman at the at the counter at the auto body shop was very nice and told me that if I get a rental, get it from the Enterprise and Beacon where the auto body shop is near.

00:15:21.88
William Hernandez
And that when I bring the car the car rental there, i don't have to bring the car rental back to the Enterprise and Beacon. They're so close that they'll come pick it up. At the auto body shop because they got some kind of like deal with them or something like that. So that's what I'm probably going to do. um It just sucks because, you know, it's a fucking hassle.

00:15:41.24
William Hernandez
And I, you know, I do everything. I drive carefully and I fucking keep up to maintenance with the fucking car. And then something happens. It's out of my control. So um that could have been avoided at the end of the day.

00:15:52.82
William Hernandez
Because that Plow guy should have said, hey, can you move your car? Because they've done it before. Like, they've told us to move our cars when they came to Plow, and they he didn't even do it.

00:16:00.84
Erik Pimentel
Or leave a note or something, you know.

00:16:02.58
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, don't tell me you didn't fucking feel that or hear it.

00:16:06.23
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:16:07.13
William Hernandez
You know what I mean? Like, that's the biggest thing, I think. It's like, come on, man. You got to show some fucking responsibility here, you know? But, yeah, it's just a pain in the ass, man. So, you know, I'm without a car now, at least for this for the most of this weekend. Yeah.

00:16:22.10
William Hernandez
I got to run one before friday before Sunday because the Super Bowl is a fucking holiday at my mom's. cell And I got to go down there and and help her get food and stuff. you know Pick up the sandwiches and stuff for the party. This fucking sucks. Anyway.

00:16:41.23
Erik Pimentel
Lee had the best weekend. Let's put it that way.

00:16:46.62
LeeJay
I didn't do jack shit.

00:16:47.35
Erik Pimentel
There you go.

00:16:48.67
William Hernandez
Yeah, exactly. He didn't do it. He saw and he saw like so ah nice Knicks win last night to top it all off. um

00:16:56.10
LeeJay
Number six.

00:16:57.59
William Hernandez
What's that?

00:16:58.26
LeeJay
Number six.

00:16:59.42
William Hernandez
Number six six in a row, right?

00:17:00.37
LeeJay
Six in a row. Yep.

00:17:02.71
William Hernandez
So do you have what i anything to say about that?

00:17:04.70
LeeJay
Nope.

00:17:05.31
Erik Pimentel
Okay.

00:17:10.33
LeeJay
Read the title.

00:17:10.35
William Hernandez
By the way, ah sis since we're on this, explain to me before we...

00:17:11.29
LeeJay
I'm just a dummy.

00:17:16.98
William Hernandez
before we um really jump into it, explain to me, why did people think that last night was LeBron's last game at MSG? I missed that whole conversation. Like, what happened?

00:17:30.14
William Hernandez
What was the...

00:17:30.39
LeeJay
No, because it's being talked about that he's gonna retire after the year.

00:17:33.66
William Hernandez
Oh, I see. Gotcha.

00:17:36.57
LeeJay
So they were making it a big, you know, tickets were going for fucking, I think I heard $1,200 for bad seats.

00:17:36.68
William Hernandez
Gotcha.

00:17:45.66
William Hernandez
shit, dude.

00:17:46.87
LeeJay
So like Eric said, no one cares.

00:17:47.06
William Hernandez
Damn.

00:17:50.05
LeeJay
You wanna to spend that kind of money to sit up top on the roof? That's your business.

00:17:53.58
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:17:54.49
LeeJay
I mean, I could find a lot of more other things to do with $1,200 and it's not to go see LeBron James and at Madison Square Garden.

00:17:59.56
Erik Pimentel
Not...

00:18:02.47
LeeJay
I'm good.

00:18:02.82
Erik Pimentel
No.

00:18:04.22
LeeJay
So.

00:18:04.57
William Hernandez
i I will say one thing. ah There's a big big game on Friday at the Garden between St. John's and UConn, and I was like, I just want to see let me see. Because I was thinking, oh okay. if the If the tickets are cheap enough, I'll go.

00:18:20.66
William Hernandez
i don't know if I want to pay $170.

00:18:22.14
LeeJay
I was about to say that about a buck and a half and not't even look.

00:18:23.96
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:18:24.42
LeeJay
That was gonna be my guess, about a buck and a half.

00:18:24.64
William Hernandez
Yeah. yeah Yeah. $170. And I'm like, ah do I really want to do that? No.

00:18:31.90
LeeJay
Yeah, college basketball, i'm good.

00:18:33.56
William Hernandez
i i mean, listen, I love St. John's UConn games. I've been to quite a few, but I think I put that towards my deductible. Yeah.

00:18:42.49
Erik Pimentel
they sell they They sell St. John's hats over there at MSG or what?

00:18:45.30
LeeJay
Oh, pa-dum-pa.

00:18:46.39
Erik Pimentel
yes

00:18:48.30
LeeJay
Shots fired. I held back, Eric. I was trying to chill, but you did it, so we good.

00:18:52.30
William Hernandez
They do. No. they They do, but they they're shitty ones. They're shitty ones.

00:18:59.30
LeeJay
Lid should have called him and said, yo, we got St. John's hats. Yeah.

00:19:02.33
William Hernandez
Fuck that. I'll tell you what, though. I went to... ah I was telling this to LeeJ on Friday and Caesar. I ordered two sweatshirts from that website, Slam.

00:19:14.14
William Hernandez
They were two St. John's sweatshirts. they had them on sale. And I got two two of them for $100. They're like good quality sweatshirts. So I was happy about that. But no, no fucking hats. My hat my hat situation continues. I'm going to have to go to campus. I mean, that's what it comes down to. And that's not happening anytime soon. so um All right.

00:19:36.86
William Hernandez
That's enough of that. This is a weekly sports podcast. Don't forget we come at you each and every week on Tuesdays, for the most part, on the podcast platform of your choice.

00:19:47.39
William Hernandez
I just want to say something. i want to just thank people quickly um because, and i'll just I'll share some numbers here quickly, because last month was a good month for us as far as looking at it compared to last year.

00:19:52.37
LeeJay
Thank you.

00:20:02.55
William Hernandez
So, like and this January, this past January, We had 232 downloads overall. Now, if you look at the same period ah last year, last January, it was only 107. So that's a huge, huge fucking difference.

00:20:22.30
William Hernandez
I don't know what the math is off the top of my head, ah but I am definitely noticing i ah repeat customers, if you want to put it that way.

00:20:34.52
William Hernandez
The Harbaugh episode was the most downloaded episode last month. So there was definitely a lot of interest. It's funny because the top two episodes, and this is, LeeJay always says it's NFL's king. And we're going to get into football to start here. ah The most two downloaded episodes were um the Harbaugh episode and then the episode about what's next for the Giants and the Jets. So if you want to go back, it's episode 83.

00:21:03.58
William Hernandez
is the Giants and Jets one. And then in episode 85 is the Harbaugh era begins in New York. And I've been trying to play around with the titles and doing SEO shit and, hoping, you know, with chat GPT and things like that.

00:21:11.57
LeeJay
you

00:21:17.98
William Hernandez
So, uh, So yeah, but thank you guys. It's, um, I like to think we're gaining some momentum there, but don't forget that we are, uh, at two dummies sports podcast at gmail.com, which is a two, the number two, two dummies at sport, uh, two dummies sports podcast, gmail.com. And then one last reminder that, uh, and YouTube, we're also on X and Facebook, but I have not been posting as much on there.

00:21:47.45
William Hernandez
And we are gaining some momentum on the YouTube videos. So that is good to see. Guys, subscribe to um YouTube Premium.

00:21:58.04
William Hernandez
You don't have to deal with fucking ads on there. It's probably the best. One of the best fucking subscriptions that I have is YouTube Premium. Okay. This is... This first topic is interesting because

00:22:13.61
LeeJay
Thank you.

00:22:14.34
William Hernandez
it's got to do with what happened last week with the Pro Hood Football Hall of Fame. And while nothing is official yet, they're going to make the official announcement for the inductees. I believe it's happening on Thursday, if I'm not mistaken, because that is when the NFL awards are.

00:22:36.79
William Hernandez
But, I mean, everybody was talking about it. And considering how somebody like a Bill Belichick And even an Eli Manning have such a, i don't want to say impact, but listen, obviously we are all three of us are well aware of this man, of Bill Belichick, because obviously Lee J with the Jets and Erica, myself with the Giants and how many Super Bowls that we watched where the Pats were there all the time.

00:23:08.50
William Hernandez
Little sneak peek of our Mount Rushmore later. So here's what happened. and let I'm going to set the stage here and then, you know, we'll talk about the Belichick aspect of this and then talk about the Eli Manning. because I've got some things to say about Eli.

00:23:21.14
William Hernandez
And um we never got Eric. i When we had this conversation last year, you weren't on.

00:23:23.41
LeeJay
Thank you.

00:23:25.40
William Hernandez
And I'm curious. I'm curious to get your overall thoughts about Eli not getting in last year or this year. So. Reports emerged last week that Belichick did not get elected in his first year eligibility for the Hall of Fame, despite being the lone coach finalist coming out of what's called the Coach Focus Committee.

00:23:46.42
William Hernandez
The report said that he failed to reach the required 80% threshold, which is 40 out of 50 selectors. So what happened? In the aftermath of this whole thing, the Hall of Fame released a statement responding to quote-unquote media reports about the class of 2026 voting and warned that bylaw violations could lead to consequences, including removal from the selection committee. They never talked about who, like Belichick specifically, because it wasn't official yet who had made it.

00:24:19.29
William Hernandez
So here here's the thing. that that makes this different than the baseball hall of fame. And I want to get, talk about this quick. And then we'll talk about, we'll talk about Belichick first.

00:24:30.62
William Hernandez
So there are 50 voters in this whole process. One media representative from each pro football city, which is the NFL market, New York and l LA get two each because there are two teams in each of those markets. By the way, guys, we talked about all this last year too, but I just want to you know remind everybody Then there is one representative from the Pro Football Writers of America.

00:24:56.34
William Hernandez
And then there are 17 at-large delegates, which can be a mix that include additional media members and former NFL coaches and executives. So that's different from the Baseball Hall of Fame, where it's mostly based on who the baseball writers, who they vote for.

00:25:17.05
William Hernandez
Then there's the separate committees. for um you know modern era player finalists. They have you have a coach thing. They have a you know special contributor.

00:25:27.99
William Hernandez
Then they have a category called seniors.

00:25:30.98
Erik Pimentel
Thank you.

00:25:31.29
William Hernandez
And then the coach contributors and seniors finalists are selected by a nine-person blue ribbon committee drawn from the main 50-person committee. So it was this committee that chose that had to deal with this whole Belichick thing.

00:25:51.13
William Hernandez
Two people stepped forward, and they said, why did he and vote for Belichick? And I will get into that later. But let's first talk about the initial... Everybody's fucking surprised about this. um LeeJay, I'll go to you first here. Because I know you had some kind of strong opinions in our little in a little text message thread, but...

00:26:14.71
William Hernandez
your're Your an initial thoughts on this whole stupid situation with that with Belichick.

00:26:20.92
LeeJay
As much as I hate that man, it's dumb. And his stupid cutoff hoodies looking frumpy.

00:26:29.56
William Hernandez
He does look frumpy.

00:26:29.69
LeeJay
that has That's not a reason to keep him out of the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. Because I do think getting in on the first ballot means something. And I do think it means something to him, even though he's not going to probably say that.

00:26:37.56
William Hernandez
It does. Mm-hmm.

00:26:40.33
LeeJay
He's going to probably say he doesn't care.

00:26:41.97
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

00:26:42.68
LeeJay
I do think it means something. And i think the couple of things I heard was the the flake gate and then the... um

00:26:50.73
Erik Pimentel
Spygate.

00:26:50.78
William Hernandez
Yeah, stupid.

00:26:50.96
LeeJay
What was the other one, the stealing signs? Was it the stealing signs?

00:26:52.86
William Hernandez
Yeah, sick yeah, Spygate, yeah.

00:26:53.01
Erik Pimentel
Spygate.

00:26:54.84
LeeJay
Which is, everyone does that when you put a big fucking thing out in front of everybody, they can see your fucking signs that you're calling or whatever you do. They can finally read your sign. they could They pick it up, you know, whatever.

00:27:02.01
William Hernandez
All those, yeah, yeah, ah right.

00:27:05.37
LeeJay
They do it mostly in college, but you you know what they're doing over there in the NFL as well.

00:27:07.67
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

00:27:09.08
LeeJay
Anyway, I had a couple questions here.

00:27:12.89
William Hernandez
Sure.

00:27:13.18
LeeJay
these The guys that got voted in,

00:27:15.42
William Hernandez
Yes.

00:27:18.58
LeeJay
this is not the first time they on the ballot, right?

00:27:21.34
William Hernandez
It was not. No.

00:27:23.42
LeeJay
was which was Roger Craig, Kenny Anderson, and a guy before our time.

00:27:26.68
William Hernandez
Yes. Yes.

00:27:27.62
LeeJay
Even Kenny Anderson was probably before our time.

00:27:29.43
William Hernandez
Yes. I know where you're going with this.

00:27:30.33
LeeJay
I just remember play watching Roger Craig play.

00:27:32.44
William Hernandez
I know where you're going with this, but yeah.

00:27:33.50
LeeJay
Right?

00:27:34.00
William Hernandez
Yes. Yes.

00:27:34.90
LeeJay
the guy The guys that voted not for Belichick, was this the first time they voted?

00:27:42.31
William Hernandez
I do not believe it is. They've been they've been voters for a while from everything I read.

00:27:46.07
LeeJay
So let's go with that.

00:27:47.23
William Hernandez
Yes.

00:27:47.67
LeeJay
will William, what do i do not what what don't I believe in?

00:27:49.07
William Hernandez
Yes.

00:27:52.13
William Hernandez
coincidences. Yeah.

00:27:53.69
LeeJay
bingo it's not a coincidence that if if everything's true that you're saying the three that got in this is not the first time on a ballot let's go we're all playing stupid right now this is not the first time they won a ballot the guys that voted against belichick is not the first time they had to vote so they had a chance to vote for these other three guys that they previously didn't vote for and now when belichick is your chance to get in these three guys get in i rest my case sir

00:28:04.02
William Hernandez
yeah

00:28:23.04
William Hernandez
Well, let's – well, Eric, your your thoughts first, and then we'll get into um what the guys said. And and Eric – Lee Jay's on the right track. A little little preview of what these guys said. But, Eric, yourre your your general thoughts on Belichick not getting in.

00:28:38.23
Erik Pimentel
I mean, it's nonsense. the The guy is a Hall of Fame defensive coordinator. He's a Hall of Fame coach. it You know, it makes no sense why he didn't get in. I mean, whatever excuse they gave makes no sense. My my question, though, is.

00:28:54.00
Erik Pimentel
know in players, when they retire, they have to be retired for five years as the same. Isn't it the same for coaches or no?

00:29:01.50
William Hernandez
is ah

00:29:01.66
Erik Pimentel
Because he's only been gone for two years.

00:29:03.38
William Hernandez
I don't think so. I do.

00:29:05.34
LeeJay
I would say not because it's been only what?

00:29:05.46
William Hernandez
I think, yeah.

00:29:07.42
Erik Pimentel
Two years.

00:29:07.90
William Hernandez
you Two years.

00:29:08.18
LeeJay
And he hasn't even even retired from that because he could go back if he wanted to.

00:29:08.58
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:29:11.03
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:29:11.18
LeeJay
Right. He didn't officially retire from the NFL.

00:29:11.35
William Hernandez
He could. Yeah, he could. yeah, yeah, he could. There's different rules. Yeah, it doesn't. It's not the same thing as like with baseball, with the players.

00:29:17.72
LeeJay
Yeah, because I think people have gotten in at while they're still coaching.

00:29:18.83
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they have. Yeah, they have.

00:29:22.42
LeeJay
Right.

00:29:23.08
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah.

00:29:23.26
LeeJay
I'm not mistaken.

00:29:24.15
William Hernandez
No, but no that you're right.

00:29:24.54
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:29:25.19
William Hernandez
They definitely have.

00:29:26.07
Erik Pimentel
I don't know.

00:29:26.11
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:29:27.23
Erik Pimentel
I think they need to fix that, but never they nevertheless, I just think this is a ah penalty for Spygate, the Flategate. Your sister's ass gate. I don't know. i mean, i'm stupid as issues that they have with with a guy that's a Hall of Famer from from the very beginning.

00:29:42.74
LeeJay
It's weird. It's like the way to get back at him. It's very strange. Listen, like Eric just said, the whole and the whole voting thing needs to change, right? Because what's good for somebody else is not good for somebody else.

00:29:50.90
William Hernandez
here

00:29:54.75
LeeJay
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's what I would say. You ever seen like those ah cooking competitions on the cooking show where there's like five

00:30:03.90
LeeJay
things that they must hit in order to like good taste, the way the plate looks, blah, blah, blah.

00:30:05.50
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:30:09.05
William Hernandez
Presentation.

00:30:09.43
LeeJay
blah

00:30:09.61
William Hernandez
Yeah. yeah yeah

00:30:10.36
LeeJay
If you want to do that to get in, and if you hit all those if you hit all those key marks, you're in. Because there's just two there's just too...

00:30:17.58
William Hernandez
That's fair.

00:30:19.83
LeeJay
I think I just leave it up to too much dodo birds to make a decision about somebody that should be in, and they maybe they you know they got to stick up their ass about this person, and you know now they're not in.

00:30:31.32
LeeJay
And what happens when the next year comes? Then it's somebody else that you think is better than him, and so on and so forth. I don't know. It's weird. And very... It's stupid.

00:30:41.40
William Hernandez
I think one of the... Yeah, go ahead, Eric.

00:30:43.13
Erik Pimentel
No, it's like the people that that don't vote for don't want somebody to be in unanimously, like Ichiro.

00:30:49.37
William Hernandez
Yes, right, yes.

00:30:50.23
LeeJay
oh Oh, yeah.

00:30:50.26
Erik Pimentel
and that And come on, man, this is so stupid.

00:30:50.81
William Hernandez
yeah Mariano Rivera, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:53.66
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, it's insane. It's insane.

00:30:55.45
LeeJay
Those are the people that weren't hugged enough by their mom.

00:30:59.63
William Hernandez
Well, I think it's also... And I can i can i guess I can speak it from this from ah from ah um a sports writer's perspective, because I do have...

00:31:10.49
William Hernandez
some experience being in the presence of a Hall of Famer. And and i'll i'll i'll and this is what I mean by that. chimpcot Jim Calhoun.

00:31:21.66
William Hernandez
I think it's safe to say that if you if you spoke with a lot of mean media members who were covering Calhoun during that time, he was a fucking asshole.

00:31:34.81
William Hernandez
He was. He wasn't the greatest media-friendly guy. He was the smartass a lot of the times. Very sarcastic. But guess what?

00:31:45.40
Erik Pimentel
one

00:31:45.91
William Hernandez
He can coach his fucking ass often.

00:31:47.16
Erik Pimentel
yeah

00:31:47.39
William Hernandez
He won. A lot. He put UConn men's basketball on the map. Okay? Some of the stuff that I'm hearing about why people might not have voted for Belichick is for the very same reasons. We've seen the press conference right now.

00:32:04.82
William Hernandez
By now, what was the famous? ah What's the famous one about doing the work or whatever? You know, he was always a curmudgeon old man in those press conferences.

00:32:17.85
William Hernandez
But should that be held against him? Apparently, some people did. So let's get to the let's get to a couple of what a couple of guys said. um And I'm going to shit on one of these guys, too, for having a vote.

00:32:31.64
William Hernandez
One guy, ah i don't know how to say his last name. last name His first name. His last name is Gregorian.

00:32:37.66
LeeJay
Jerkoff, you pronounce Jerkoff.

00:32:38.65
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:32:41.59
William Hernandez
He's from the Kansas City Star. And this is to Lee Jay's point about the three gentlemen that are on the senior candidates. He argued that this year's ballot structure forced a tradeoff because selectors had to pick three names out of a five-person bucket.

00:33:00.66
William Hernandez
Belichick, Robert Kraft. We just so brought him up. And then the three senior finalists of Ken Anderson, Roger Craig, and this man, Elsie Greenwood, who I don't really know who that is.

00:33:12.13
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:33:12.40
LeeJay
That before our time, yeah.

00:33:13.82
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:33:13.94
LeeJay
Defense, I think he was on a key part of the defensive you know championship teams for Pittsburgh. are not 100% sure.

00:33:19.58
William Hernandez
Okay, so the this man said, Gregorian said, he said that in a simple yes or no system, he would have voted for Belichick. But given the three of five constraint, he felt, quote unquote, duty bound to prioritize the senior candidates, Ken Anderson, not that Ken Anderson. ah That's a wrestling reference. ah Roger Craig and L.C. Greenwood, because their window is limited, while Belichick is inevitable later.

00:33:49.36
LeeJay
Well, there's your answer right there.

00:33:50.68
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:33:50.71
William Hernandez
Right. But like, here's the, but like, here's the problem though.

00:33:51.48
LeeJay
ah

00:33:55.19
William Hernandez
and And I saw some, I saw some commentary about this in the aftermath. These guys thought that, oh, somebody else will get Belichick in this year.

00:34:06.87
William Hernandez
If I put my votes towards these three, of the three men, somebody else will get in. Don't worry, the other committee members are going to make sure that Belichick gets in. But that didn't happen.

00:34:18.61
William Hernandez
That's what I think that I don't understand. I'm sorry. No offense to Ken Anderson, Roger Craig and Elsie Greenwood. Pretty sure Belichick did more for the NFL than those three guys.

00:34:30.81
William Hernandez
I could be wrong. OK. Mike Chappell. Of I guess he's a TV guy, which I'm sorry. I don't know why you have a vote. Just putting that out there. He also pointed to the same constrained three or five setup and said he chose to use two of his three slots on senior candidates, as DJ said, and he leaving him deciding between Belichick and Kraft. He picked Kraft, and he said his reasons were, Kraft's role in building the New England Patriots dynasty and league-level contributions,

00:35:06.33
William Hernandez
He cited labor stuff and the media revenue work. And B, he said that Spygate left a stain he couldn't ignore. ah He said Belichick is Hall of Fame worthy and expects him to get in soon. Can you guys tell me why you don't hold Spygate against Kraft, but you hold it against Belichick?

00:35:30.17
LeeJay
He got hit over the head with the biggest penalty too.

00:35:30.50
William Hernandez
Kraft owns a fucking team.

00:35:32.42
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah.

00:35:33.26
William Hernandez
Right? Like, what?

00:35:36.56
LeeJay
It's contradictory to me because he's, if going to claim him to be the leader because of X, Y, and Z, well, he's the leader because of what the things that are happening that you're holding against Belichick.

00:35:37.42
William Hernandez
That makes no sense.

00:35:42.54
William Hernandez
Right. Yes. Yes.

00:35:45.48
LeeJay
He's the first one in in charge that had a bigger fine, I think, when everything went down.

00:35:47.48
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:35:50.68
William Hernandez
I guess you're right.

00:35:52.82
LeeJay
It doesn't matter what these people say.

00:35:52.82
William Hernandez
That makes no sense.

00:35:52.85
Erik Pimentel
Nonsense.

00:35:53.66
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:35:53.98
LeeJay
Yeah, it doesn't matter. i don't I'm not gonna see their opinion. i read a little bit of it. I don't know whose's the whose article I read first, but I started reading, i was like, yeah, this guy's stupid. I can't read this anymore.

00:36:03.73
Erik Pimentel
but of

00:36:06.04
William Hernandez
Yeah, i know um I know Gregorian actually put out an article in the Kansas City Star. like He wrote a column about about this. and he's I got to give him credit. I will give him credit for this.

00:36:18.13
William Hernandez
He put his ass out there. Right.

00:36:19.90
LeeJay
No, that's the only, but yeah, that 100%. Because a lot of these people hide behind that and been like, but look what look what Bill Polian said.

00:36:23.99
William Hernandez
Right.

00:36:27.64
LeeJay
First he said, what he said, I think he said, whatever, hit I don't remember what he said at first. And then they asked him again. He was like, well, I don't remember if I voted for Belichick or some shit like that.

00:36:36.38
Erik Pimentel
Oh my God.

00:36:36.41
William Hernandez
That's stupid. Of course you remember. Come on,

00:36:38.85
Erik Pimentel
Jeez.

00:36:39.62
William Hernandez
That's ridiculous.

00:36:40.34
Erik Pimentel
newise

00:36:41.72
LeeJay
Come on, bro. ah That's what I heard them say on the radio about him. You know, yeah whatever. What were you saying about this first guy where you said Gregorian?

00:36:51.90
William Hernandez
Yeah, he's from the Kansas City.

00:36:52.57
LeeJay
He said there was like a ah like a five checklist or something.

00:36:53.30
William Hernandez
he's

00:36:55.66
LeeJay
What was he saying about that? The first part you read, like was it there was like a five-part checklist or something?

00:36:58.74
William Hernandez
It was a... Yeah, yeah it's... the You could only...

00:37:01.02
LeeJay
The way they set it up this year?

00:37:01.30
William Hernandez
so Yeah, because of the five people, Belichick, Kraft, and the three the three finalists, you could only you had you could only pick three of the five.

00:37:07.38
Erik Pimentel
he He needed a big three.

00:37:11.48
LeeJay
Okay.

00:37:12.43
William Hernandez
That's that's what it is.

00:37:13.08
LeeJay
Right, way right, by right, right, right.

00:37:14.49
William Hernandez
But it's just like, i I'm sorry. Again, i don't give a shit. Honestly, this whole thing about Spygate, the Flakegate, you know what? he got They got caught.

00:37:25.82
William Hernandez
I will say about that, who the fuck doesn't cheat in some respect?

00:37:29.27
LeeJay
Guess who shouldn't get on the first ballot then?

00:37:32.21
William Hernandez
Who?

00:37:33.10
LeeJay
Tom Brady.

00:37:34.46
William Hernandez
Well, yeah, you're right.

00:37:36.18
LeeJay
I bet you they're not going to do that.

00:37:38.42
William Hernandez
Of course they're not. The golden boy? No way.

00:37:40.70
LeeJay
Nope. i'd say up to be ah Let's do this real quick. I would have picked i would have picked Belichick, Kraft, and Roger Craig.

00:37:47.45
William Hernandez
i agree.

00:37:47.94
LeeJay
would been my three.

00:37:48.98
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:37:50.08
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, I agree.

00:37:50.17
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:37:50.52
LeeJay
Those are the guys I saw play. I looked at Kenny Anderson's numbers. He won an MVP, I think four-time Pro Bowler. Meh. You know what i mean?

00:38:01.40
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:02.68
LeeJay
and um And the other guy, to be fair, i don't i don't I don't really know him. I could look at his numbers, but I didn't i didn't watch him play, so i just want to be fair.

00:38:06.94
William Hernandez
Yeah, right, all right, right. Yeah, yeah.

00:38:09.52
LeeJay
So those are the three guys I would have picked. I've seen Roger Craig play, and he had a good career.

00:38:13.17
William Hernandez
Right, yeah.

00:38:14.90
LeeJay
So i ah I don't know.

00:38:16.79
Erik Pimentel
So so is this ah is this supposed to be kind of like what how MLB has the the Veterans Committee?

00:38:22.23
William Hernandez
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's is that's exactly what this is, yeah.

00:38:25.17
Erik Pimentel
So my thing is, why is Bill Belichick thrown in the Veterans Committee?

00:38:25.20
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:38:29.56
Erik Pimentel
That don't make no sense to me.

00:38:30.12
William Hernandez
That's a good question. Yeah, no, you're right.

00:38:31.73
LeeJay
Oh, I see what you're saying.

00:38:32.05
William Hernandez
He should.

00:38:32.54
Erik Pimentel
Or Robert Kraft.

00:38:32.65
LeeJay
I see what, yeah, I see what you're saying.

00:38:33.91
William Hernandez
Yeah, they should be part of the larger 50 50 pool.

00:38:36.57
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:38:36.99
William Hernandez
Yeah. Instead of just like depending on nine guys. Yeah, no, i agree.

00:38:42.19
Erik Pimentel
So dumb.

00:38:42.20
William Hernandez
I completely agree with that. That makes complete sense. um Because if I'm not mistaken and Larry can correct me if I'm wrong, ah he will. um ah We love you, Larry. Yeah.

00:38:55.70
William Hernandez
I believe if you're a manager, you you fall into the general, you know, whatever of along with the players. I think. I could be completely wrong about that. But it's very strange.

00:39:08.31
William Hernandez
um Okay. Eli Manning. ha By the way, the NFL Honors shows on Thursday. case anybody cares.

00:39:19.88
William Hernandez
That's what they, you know, MVPs and Rookies of the Year and all that other shit.

00:39:24.25
Erik Pimentel
and cares

00:39:25.37
William Hernandez
Yeah. So Eli's not getting in. um For the second year in a row. And do you want to make the argument that maybe last year, the first time.

00:39:40.98
William Hernandez
Okay. I, I, Lee G and I had this whole fucking debate last year. We agree. He should have been in the first, the first year. He's not getting in the second time. So what happened?

00:39:53.76
William Hernandez
articles are getting and written the talking head start debating about Eli's career and basically the big thing is that despite the two legendary Super Bowl runs and wins that that shouldn't overshadow the fact that many of view him as being quote-unquote average in the regular season Eric I mean, you weren't on the first time last year when we talked about this whole thing, but your overall thoughts on is Eli a Hall of Famer? is he's not a Hall of Famer? Should have been first ballot? What do you think about this whole situation with him?

00:40:35.35
Erik Pimentel
I mean, I could, you could make the argument, all right, first ballot, buth blah, blah, blah. This year, there's no excuse. He should have been in. I mean, like the guy had two amazing Super Bowl ah playoff runs. Amazing.

00:40:48.73
Erik Pimentel
He beat the GOAT, Tom Brady, twice. I mean, put it this way. we could We could see it through Giants fans' eyes, but I bet you if you ask Lee J, Lee J would love to have Eli Vanning as his quarterback all those years.

00:41:02.97
William Hernandez
Right, exactly.

00:41:03.61
Erik Pimentel
You know, and that's...

00:41:03.98
LeeJay
i've I've already said my piece on Eli.

00:41:04.29
Erik Pimentel
cut Exactly. So, I mean, the guy, the guy was not only what he was, he was, he was a, you want to say mediocre, you know, average in the, in the regular season, but he stepped up when it needed to be, when he needed to step up, the guy was super clutch.

00:41:23.06
Erik Pimentel
He was and another thing people don't talk about. He was an Ironman dude, never missed a game.

00:41:28.32
William Hernandez
Right, yeah.

00:41:28.95
Erik Pimentel
and he And he used to get smashed, and you know, behind that offensive line sometimes. So, you know, you put all of that into the equation, he's a Hall Famer, man. And the fact that he beat, you know, Tom Brady twice, you know, that that just puts it at to me on the next level.

00:41:45.64
Erik Pimentel
He's an Hall Famer.

00:41:46.08
William Hernandez
Yeah, and somebody made the, again, this this shit happened last year. It's the same fucking arguments. Oh, well, the first Super Bowl, we that was more the defense. Okay.

00:41:56.34
William Hernandez
He still won the MVP.

00:41:57.77
Erik Pimentel
Let's look at those games, though.

00:41:57.91
William Hernandez
He won the MVP both years. Yeah, right.

00:41:59.60
Erik Pimentel
Let's look at the game but the game that the games that he played against Green Bay, the games that he played against the Cowboys.

00:42:05.98
William Hernandez
Cowboys, yes.

00:42:06.01
Erik Pimentel
You know, those were good games, man. That that wasn't just the defense.

00:42:11.26
William Hernandez
By the way, this whole thing about his regular season numbers, I just want to i just want to put his key passing stats and where he is all time. Which, to me, anyway, passing yards, 57,023.

00:42:25.29
William Hernandez
Good for 11th time. Right. Passing good for eleventh all time

00:42:30.72
Erik Pimentel
And was probably higher when he retired.

00:42:31.10
William Hernandez
pat right

00:42:33.21
Erik Pimentel
yeah

00:42:33.30
William Hernandez
passing tds 366, 11th all time. Completions, all time. Attempts, quote?

00:42:49.02
William Hernandez
eight thousand one hundred and nineteen eleven all time now here's where he gets stinged two hundred and forty four interceptions twelve all time whatever what is ah the quote Eric would bellot ah with Parcells with the interceptions.

00:43:08.11
Erik Pimentel
Markman Yeah, if you don't throw at least two interceptions in the game, you're not trying.

00:43:11.53
William Hernandez
Yeah, exactly. mean, by the way, 2,815, 24th time. career playoff line in 12 games, 2,815 yards, 18 touchdowns, twenty fourth all time his career playoff line in twelve gains two thousand eight hundred and fifteen yards eighteen touchdowns Only nine interceptions. So that whole interception shit went out the fucking window in the playoffs.

00:43:47.05
William Hernandez
don't even know what to say anymore. Lijia, do you have anything and anything more to say about this?

00:43:53.91
LeeJay
ah

00:43:55.41
William Hernandez
Ha ha ha ha

00:43:57.77
LeeJay
I'll say this real quick because I'm tired this shit. Anytime I hear somebody speak on the radio, you ask somebody who's not even an Eli fan or just somebody in general, once you start your sentence with, but you're done with me. I don't want to hear anything else you have to say.

00:44:13.66
LeeJay
And I feel like they play the woulda, coulda, shoulda game with Eli.

00:44:16.80
William Hernandez
Oh yeah, a lot.

00:44:16.89
LeeJay
Listen, there's a lot of woulda, coulda, shoulda.

00:44:17.56
William Hernandez
They do.

00:44:18.69
LeeJay
If my aunt, like it goes, like if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. If I was six five I'd probably be in the NBA. None of that shit happened. Woulda, coulda, shoulda, right?

00:44:26.03
William Hernandez
Right.

00:44:27.83
LeeJay
Parents had sex in the wrong state. I was brought in this god awful fucking city and state. Right? Listen. If you told me that at du two those two big playoff runs he had, the defense scored every touchdown, I'm with you.

00:44:41.55
LeeJay
That didn't happen.

00:44:42.87
William Hernandez
yeah right

00:44:43.80
LeeJay
gant Grant, and I'm not taking away anything from the defense because they stepped up big time. They have to make stops. Fair. But somebody has to score. Okay? He made that.

00:44:54.64
LeeJay
Bro, I think it's one. i to Listen, we could do this for another day, but I think that pass to Mario Manningham with the catch as well is the best.

00:45:01.59
William Hernandez
he

00:45:03.38
LeeJay
is the best throw and catch combination I've ever seen in Super Bowl history.

00:45:04.15
Erik Pimentel
Yep. Yep.

00:45:07.62
LeeJay
That's coming from a Jets fan. I hate the Giants. I hate Eli. I hate everything. But that's undeniable to me.

00:45:14.33
William Hernandez
Right.

00:45:15.99
LeeJay
He got out of the sack. Whether you want to call it a lucky throw or not, David Tyrese, sure. He had to make the catch and control it and all of that. They should have called a s sack. He was down. He was... but Yeah, who cares? They didn't call a sack.

00:45:29.14
William Hernandez
Eric's got the bobblehead.

00:45:29.27
LeeJay
He got out of it. Yeah. He got out of the sack and he threw the ball. Right?

00:45:36.39
William Hernandez
Yes. yes

00:45:36.92
LeeJay
Catch. i'm tired This is not an argument I want to have anymore. I'm done here. Like you said, you want to argue first ballot? Sure. I thought he should have went in last year, but that was my opinion.

00:45:49.02
LeeJay
el Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer. Period. Stop. You could tell me what he wasn't better than this person, but this... for And I'm just going to simply tell you, when it comes down to... no matter what athlete, whether they're on the borderline or not, in whatever sport, when you start telling me they have multiple rings and he was a big part of the reason why, there's nothing else to talk to me about.

00:46:10.75
William Hernandez
Right.

00:46:11.16
Erik Pimentel
Amen.

00:46:11.51
LeeJay
I don't want your Dan Marino. He didn't win. Right? I don't want whoever else you want to throw against me that was a great quarterback. If they didn't win, I tell you right now, Mount Rushmore, top quarterback that I want to run my two-minute warning, Eli Manning's one of them for me.

00:46:27.67
LeeJay
When you say that kind of stuff, i don't I don't have anything else to say. Eli Manning should be in the Hall of Fame for some reason. I guess they got something against him or whatever. They're thinking that his regular season trumps whatever he did in the two playoff runs.

00:46:42.46
Erik Pimentel
what drives What drives me nuts, and and this name is going to pop up when we do our halftime, um Cam Newton.

00:46:49.68
William Hernandez
Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:46:50.74
Erik Pimentel
He started with this nonsense last year when Eli didn't make it, talking about, you know, pretty much said that he was better than Eli. And he, that's what he pretty much said.

00:46:58.72
William Hernandez
Yeah, okay.

00:46:59.70
LeeJay
He could be, but guess what?

00:46:59.90
Erik Pimentel
It's like, yeah, exactly.

00:47:00.00
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:47:00.98
LeeJay
Look at your fingers. Let me see your finger. Let me see your black fingers.

00:47:04.18
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:47:05.98
LeeJay
miss I don't want to jump on the ball.

00:47:06.04
Erik Pimentel
Jesus.

00:47:07.26
LeeJay
I'm scared.

00:47:07.96
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah. You know, things like that pisses me off more than anything. When you got guys like that talking nonsense about a player that won two rings, you know, as opposed to them getting nothing, that pisses me off more than anything.

00:47:22.52
LeeJay
And no one had those.

00:47:22.62
William Hernandez
Yeah, it's

00:47:23.28
LeeJay
And no one, I could go back and I could remember no one had the Giants winning any of those two years that they went on those runs.

00:47:30.68
William Hernandez
Oh, absolutely not. Especially that first time. Nobody... nobody

00:47:34.11
LeeJay
theyh Come on. I think they were favored to lose maybe in that Green Bay game, even with the snow.

00:47:40.15
William Hernandez
They were.

00:47:40.57
LeeJay
Probably double digits, no? Favored to lose.

00:47:41.91
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:47:42.37
LeeJay
Like, you know, pick to lose.

00:47:42.97
William Hernandez
I believe so.

00:47:45.50
LeeJay
Yeah, we see what happened there.

00:47:47.74
William Hernandez
By the way, going back to you were about the Tyree catch, and I brought this up before, because they interviewed the referee that was in the backfield. He almost called that play dead.

00:47:59.94
William Hernandez
That's something thing that people don't either remember or know, but they have talked to him on multiple occasions, and he almost called that play dead before Eli escaped and threw the ball down the field. so I hope we're not having this conversation again next year.

00:48:19.10
William Hernandez
Because honestly, I'm not going to make it a segment.

00:48:22.01
Erik Pimentel
I said, arab I remember the the game the the Giants played in the playoffs against San Francisco.

00:48:22.06
William Hernandez
Because we already know how we all feel. What's that?

00:48:30.36
Erik Pimentel
That's when Eli earned my respect. That dude was getting his ass kicked.

00:48:33.91
LeeJay
I remember that game.

00:48:34.07
Erik Pimentel
I remember he got sacked one time and he popped up and his ear hole was on his nose. That's how bad.

00:48:39.45
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah. remember that.

00:48:40.70
Erik Pimentel
was written He was getting smashed.

00:48:41.56
LeeJay
Well, when they planted, when they hit him from behind, right?

00:48:43.96
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, they planted him.

00:48:44.18
LeeJay
Did he land like plant, planted like face first?

00:48:46.58
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah. And that dude just got up, dusted himself off, and kept going. And we won that game. And we moved on to the Super Bowl. That right there, i mean, that says it all about him.

00:48:56.18
William Hernandez
Yeah, he was a gamer, dude. I never, looking looking back at it now, and i when those, I love sometimes when these, like, reels come up on Instagram and you see, like, the best, the best ah of whoever.

00:49:09.43
William Hernandez
My favorite ones are Vince Carter and and Eli. And the reason why i like the Eli ones, and you don't really maybe think about this as you're watching the games, but now after seeing a shitty quarterback like Daniel Jones, I'm The way Eli maneuvered in the pocket and stepped up to escape pressure, there are a few people that do that that did that better than him.

00:49:34.49
William Hernandez
Go back and watch those some of those highlights. The way he would maneuver, he was never, he we know he wasn't athletic, but he had a way of fucking slithering through the pressure and stepping up in the pocket and throwing a ball down the field to where i needed to go.

00:49:48.66
Erik Pimentel
you And you mentioned athletic. That's another thing that people's uh shit on eli about because the the quarterback of of the modern day is a super athlete they can run a 4 3 40 and all of this shit and then they look at eli manning this you know doofy white guy that could barely you know put two feet in front of each other to walk and they take and they put that against him you know and it's bullshit bullshit yeah yeah exactly

00:49:59.64
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:50:11.19
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. It makes no sense. It doesn't make any sense.

00:50:13.34
LeeJay
And those guys still haven't won anything.

00:50:15.45
William Hernandez
yeah her right

00:50:17.37
LeeJay
The only kryptonite that Eli had was Ben McAdoo.

00:50:21.69
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah. yeah

00:50:25.29
William Hernandez
Oh, boy. Speaking of kryptonite, I think kryptonite for the Jets is fucking common sense. But anyway, let's get to that right now. Some some quick some quick off-season Jets stuff because I don't, and Lee J can speak to ah speak to this better than than Eric and I, but I don't understand what's happening over there on the other side of the building. So here's here's a situation.

00:50:51.58
William Hernandez
The Jets last week hired Brian Duker. don't even know if that's the way you say it. As a new defensive coordinator. He's a former Miami assistant.

00:51:02.49
William Hernandez
And he worked with Glenn in Detroit. Now, here's where things get interesting. Glenn is going to handle the defensive play calling this year.

00:51:17.08
William Hernandez
And that actually might have been the reason that prevented them from hiring leeja's one of Lee J's people that he really wanted to see, Wink Martindale. So just quickly, this is what Rich Cimini reported at ESPN.

00:51:32.73
William Hernandez
The Jets interviewed nine known candidates for the position, including longtime coordinator Wink Martindale, who was perceived as the early favorite going into the ah into a second in-person interview this past Saturday. In that meeting, Glenn told Martindale his plan was to call the plays himself.

00:51:55.19
William Hernandez
A change from his previous position, our source said. It's not clear what prompted Glenn's about face. Martindale evidently wasn't comfortable with the setup.

00:52:07.20
William Hernandez
Lee J, you have said this many times in the past about bringing in and head coach or whatnot that even though he might be a specialist, he should make sure he is focused on the entire team.

00:52:22.33
William Hernandez
And now Glenn supposedly, apparently, reportedly is going to call the defensive plays next season. Because apparently this Duker guy, he has no experience calling plays.

00:52:34.26
William Hernandez
Which, i mary I don't know why you hired him. Anyway, sir, I'm curious. what are From everything you've read, whatever, what can you tell me what's happening here? Tell us what's happening here.

00:52:44.43
LeeJay
I'll you exactly what's happening. Aaron Glenn knows this is his last year.

00:52:48.75
William Hernandez
Hmm.

00:52:50.02
Erik Pimentel
Bingo.

00:52:51.19
LeeJay
Number two, you don't listen to talk ah ah sports talk radio like we do, Eric and I. See, the problem is, and this kind of goes back to Salah, which I don't want to swing him back into this, but I'm going to.

00:53:06.78
LeeJay
A lot of people hated what the defense was doing, and they kept on calling for Salah to take off the take over defensive play calling, and he never did.

00:53:14.78
William Hernandez
I remember that, right.

00:53:14.97
LeeJay
If you listen to him in his interview in Tennessee, he's goingnna be calling defensive play he's going to be the defensive play caller.

00:53:19.51
William Hernandez
Yes, right. I heard that, right.

00:53:20.70
LeeJay
He said that's what he missed out when he coached here with the with the Jets. This is what's happening. Glenn tried to go – this is what I think happened. Glenn probably tried to do something. He interviewed as many candidates as you want.

00:53:32.38
LeeJay
Sure, they could tell me they don't listen to the radio. They do. Throughout the course of the year, this defense sucks. Wise Wilkes here. Glenn should be the one pulling the players plays. Yada, yada, yada. He tried to do it.

00:53:46.14
LeeJay
Maybe he interviewed weak Martindale. He said, you know what? This guy's probably too much of a type A personality. I don't really know him. I knew Duker. I've worked with him with Detroit. We could work together. I'll be calling the plays, but we'll have the defensive scheme during the week. We'll we'll figure it out together, right? But I'm going to be calling the plays, right?

00:54:03.64
LeeJay
You guys talked about my defense. There's only way I could control this is by me taking over.

00:54:09.41
William Hernandez
That makes sense.

00:54:09.46
LeeJay
Right.

00:54:10.10
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:54:11.80
LeeJay
And it goes back to them letting go of the or offensive guy, Tanner Ekstrand. Ekstrand, however you say his name.

00:54:18.26
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

00:54:18.28
LeeJay
They released some of his duties throughout the course of the year. You heard it from everybody. This guy's in over his head. Why did you bring him in? Blah, blah, blah. He gets fired. Oh, you gave him terrible personnel, terrible players. These players were here when Aaron Glenn said, you want to be my OC.

00:54:36.50
LeeJay
He took the job. It's on him. Right? This is just my opinion.

00:54:41.62
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:54:41.87
LeeJay
i to not behind the I'm not behind behinding closed doors, as everyone knows that.

00:54:42.33
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:54:45.51
LeeJay
This is just me on the outside looking in. This all comes down to circle back. He knows he got it.

00:54:52.78
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

00:54:53.34
LeeJay
No matter what the talent looks like, no matter X, Y, and Z, take that off the table.

00:54:59.16
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:54:59.26
LeeJay
He knows what's happening this year.

00:54:59.28
William Hernandez
yeah yeah His ass is on the line, basically.

00:55:02.17
LeeJay
And if he's going to go down, he's going to go down swinging.

00:55:05.56
William Hernandez
Right. Doing it his way.

00:55:06.26
LeeJay
And if you're going to blame him, then you're really going to blame him.

00:55:07.33
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:55:09.02
LeeJay
He's going to take the heat round.

00:55:09.41
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

00:55:10.54
LeeJay
He's going to get fired. He'll go be at DC somewhere else and maybe get another chance somewhere else. But listen, Everybody can say, oh, he fired nine guys. He doesn't know what he's doing. Listen, you guys don't know any of those nine guys he fired. No one cares.

00:55:26.03
LeeJay
I'm happy that he actually recognizes maybe these were the problems. Besides me, I'm keeping my job, so I'm not going fire myself. I got to figure something else out here. And at the end, one of his last interviews, he took responsibility. He's got to figure it out at the end of the day because he's the coach who's going to fall in his lap.

00:55:42.18
LeeJay
He's got to figure it out. That's it. I mean, that that's how I see it. That's how I see it.

00:55:47.23
William Hernandez
Eric, any thoughts on this?

00:55:48.57
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, I mean, I agree with everything Lee J said. It's the whole win Wink Martindale thing. You know, we know Wink Martindale because he was with the Giants. So I know for a fact he's a old school, tough type A, like Lee J said, a coordinator.

00:55:57.59
William Hernandez
Sure.

00:56:04.81
Erik Pimentel
And him and Glenn, I don't think would would have been, but they would have been butting heads from the very beginning. Honestly, say I mean, Wink Martindale had issues with hardball back in Baltimore.

00:56:11.29
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:56:12.25
LeeJay
Possibly.

00:56:17.05
Erik Pimentel
He had issues with day ball in New York. And then he went to Michigan, which you know guys know I'm a Michigan fan. And i don't know if he butted ahead with Sherron Moore. Sherron Moore had his own his other issues off the field.

00:56:27.48
William Hernandez
Yeah, no shit.

00:56:29.85
Erik Pimentel
But i watching the Michigan games the last two years, I see Wink Martindale is a one-trick pony when it comes to defense. He's all about blitz, blizs blitz, blitz, blitz.

00:56:39.02
LeeJay
Blitzing. He's a blitz guy. He's a big blitz guy.

00:56:40.66
Erik Pimentel
He's a big blitz guy. And then if you if you you know if you catch those blitzes, those That defense is wide open. So I think he he's a de decent coordinator.

00:56:51.14
Erik Pimentel
I wouldn't call him a great defensive coordinator. It depends what type of what type of players you have that could that could run his type of defense.

00:56:56.57
LeeJay
your so Yeah, Martin's are probably the one that made the the phone call on ah the Coach in Michigan.

00:56:59.84
Erik Pimentel
But I just think it wouldn't have worked because Aaron Glenn just looks like a hard ass. Wing Martindale, we know he's an old school dude. And they would have got into a fistfight on the sidelines. i think so I think it wouldn't have worked.

00:57:11.03
William Hernandez
I mean, i would I would have liked to have seen that. um I tell you one

00:57:18.71
Erik Pimentel
They won't. Oh yeah. Yeah.

00:57:20.50
LeeJay
Jerome.

00:57:20.84
Erik Pimentel
yeah Who knows?

00:57:22.23
LeeJay
Yo.

00:57:24.66
Erik Pimentel
Probably. Probably.

00:57:26.09
William Hernandez
They're fucking on a desk right now.

00:57:26.87
LeeJay
But you didn't hear that from me.

00:57:27.35
Erik Pimentel
yeah

00:57:30.43
LeeJay
Can I get the job now?

00:57:34.68
William Hernandez
By the way, i don't know if you guys saw this. um and I think Diana Rossini at the Athletics, a pretty reliable reporter. but she i don't know if you guys saw this, but she did say, I think last week when this was all going on, right?

00:57:50.36
William Hernandez
that the She said that the Jets do have a plan. She didn't go into details about what that is, but that there is a plan happening with the Jets. And I guess it's it's ah it's a matter of time before we see how things play out. But again, I go back to this.

00:58:10.43
William Hernandez
Tomlin's floating out there.

00:58:13.01
LeeJay
Thank you.

00:58:13.69
William Hernandez
but i don't think McDermott's going to have a ah job this year. He's probably going take a a year off. Those are two guys... that are going to be floating out there for next year. And and I know, I know, I don't like McDermott, but listen, the guys had, the guy had success in in Buffalo and we know Woody Johnson's not a patient person.

00:58:35.77
William Hernandez
So I, I think, yeah, it's going to come down. He's got to do, they gotta, they gotta at least.

00:58:40.89
LeeJay
He also people also couldn't win with the number one thing you have, the quarterback.

00:58:43.93
William Hernandez
and right It's true too. You're right.

00:58:46.70
LeeJay
there's a There's different sides to everything.

00:58:46.70
William Hernandez
You're right.

00:58:48.86
LeeJay
And i haven't I'm telling you, man, I don't know what I...

00:58:48.89
William Hernandez
Oh no, no. Yeah. Yeah.

00:58:51.38
LeeJay
Obviously, I don't know any of these people.

00:58:53.46
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:58:54.04
LeeJay
I just don't know why I feel Mike Tomlin's going to pull a Bill Cowher.

00:58:58.98
William Hernandez
And now he's not going to, he's going to go into the TV and yeah.

00:59:00.15
LeeJay
I don't think he's going to come back. I don't know why I feel that. And I feel like his personality and the way he is, he's a perfect type of person to do that. Because there was a lot of stuff about him like missing like stuff like his kids growing up and stuff like that.

00:59:09.88
William Hernandez
I can see that.

00:59:09.99
Erik Pimentel
Tiggie...

00:59:15.59
LeeJay
you know You can't get those things back. But now he has an opportunity. i think one of his daughters goes to... so i can't forget the I can't remember the name of the college. And she's involved in something.

00:59:22.49
William Hernandez
And gymnastics, yeah.

00:59:23.70
LeeJay
Yeah. So he went to that, I think, right after they lost the game.

00:59:24.39
William Hernandez
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

00:59:27.28
LeeJay
he There was an event of hers.

00:59:27.67
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:59:28.76
LeeJay
So you know you miss out on these things.

00:59:29.17
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

00:59:30.20
LeeJay
And then... Bro, you already know. If you have a family, this is not a family life job. ah

00:59:36.61
William Hernandez
We're to get into that, but go ahead.

00:59:38.58
LeeJay
So... I don't know, man. If he's around, I mean, but then if if if ah if Glenn has a decent year, there's no reason to fire him. I wouldn't i wouldn't do it.

00:59:50.33
LeeJay
Just because Tom is out there, that doesn't really guarantee anything. So, yes, three to four wins, he's going to probably goodbye.

00:59:58.93
William Hernandez
Oh, he's gone. Yeah.

01:00:00.82
LeeJay
Six to nine, i don't I don't see it the same way.

01:00:07.61
William Hernandez
Yeah, it's um it's interesting. There are three other things I want to talk about that are related to coaching that's not on the agenda, but it just kind of came to mind when figured, why the fuck not?

01:00:18.30
William Hernandez
Number one, Robert Sala And Brian Daybowl as a tag team in Tennessee. What do we think about that?

01:00:29.97
William Hernandez
Eric, your thoughts?

01:00:31.86
Erik Pimentel
So it's it's almost like, I don't hate it. I don't want to say that I hate it because you want to think that they learn from their first job.

01:00:45.66
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:00:45.82
Erik Pimentel
You know, like rob Rob's out, like LeeJ mentioned earlier, he already mentioned in the press conference that I'm calling plays. I'm not going to be, he's he said it, he's like, I'm not going to be the coach sitting here just calling timeouts and throwing challenge fights.

01:00:53.05
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:00:58.07
LeeJay
And throwing red flags.

01:00:59.38
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:00:59.56
LeeJay
That's how he felt.

01:01:00.05
Erik Pimentel
He's like, I want to take more control of what I know. And then Dayball, say what you want about Dayball, but he's a quote unquote, this offensive guru. Who knows? Maybe he will help this freaking quarterback, Cam Ward.

01:01:12.62
William Hernandez
Can't work. Can't work.

01:01:14.36
Erik Pimentel
So, I mean, I don't hate it. They could have hired a lot worse people, but I don't know. i'm um'm I don't want to say optimistic, but I'm just curious how this is going go.

01:01:25.24
William Hernandez
Yeah. Lee J.

01:01:26.52
LeeJay
I love it. I absolutely love it. Just because these are the two exact head coaches that failed here for the opposite teams.

01:01:33.24
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. They got something to prove, yeah.

01:01:34.62
William Hernandez
It's crazy. ah Yeah.

01:01:36.66
LeeJay
They're both playing the Giants and the Jets this year.

01:01:36.76
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:01:39.03
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:01:39.03
William Hernandez
Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah.

01:01:40.92
Erik Pimentel
I wish the Giants game was at Tennessee.

01:01:41.40
LeeJay
And and i know I know they didn't take the job because of that. I know that. But, you know, like to Eric's point, Dayball, this is your chant. You're this guru. You're trying to make something of this guy, Cam Ward.

01:01:52.74
William Hernandez
Whisper.

01:01:53.06
LeeJay
This is your opportunity. Everybody sees him as a good quarterback.

01:01:58.23
LeeJay
um I think they're gonna work well together. i just Just because, you know, Salah took the job first. So if Dayball didn't think it was going to work, he's going to eventually get a job.

01:02:07.36
William Hernandez
Right.

01:02:08.03
LeeJay
He would never came here, I don't think.

01:02:08.57
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:02:11.51
LeeJay
But, i you know, Salah's personality, you know, he'll listen to him, stuff like that, blah, blah, bla blah. here's I just don't know. Off topic real quick.

01:02:22.75
LeeJay
Salah and his wife began busy. i don't know how they take care eight kids.

01:02:24.76
Erik Pimentel
ah

01:02:25.06
LeeJay
God bless them.

01:02:28.25
William Hernandez
They got eight kids, huh?

01:02:29.58
LeeJay
It's eight.

01:02:29.89
William Hernandez
That's insane.

01:02:29.98
LeeJay
I think I counted eight.

01:02:31.83
William Hernandez
Holy shit.

01:02:31.93
LeeJay
Man, that shit gave me anxiety watching that family picture when they got off the plane, the private jet in Tennessee.

01:02:32.02
Erik Pimentel
Jeez.

01:02:34.39
William Hernandez
ah

01:02:37.29
Erik Pimentel
Didn't he have an issue?

01:02:37.70
LeeJay
Golly.

01:02:38.05
Erik Pimentel
Like he he was he was trying to build a house in Jersey and he was having issues with it.

01:02:40.98
LeeJay
Yeah, he and they wound up living in a hotel in the in his in his first part of the tenure here with the Jets.

01:02:43.35
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:02:46.23
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:02:46.36
LeeJay
Imagine that.

01:02:46.49
William Hernandez
Really?

01:02:47.16
LeeJay
Yeah.

01:02:47.19
William Hernandez
shit.

01:02:47.99
Erik Pimentel
They were having some issues building their home and they and they were staying at a hotel. Imagine all those kids and all. Jeez.

01:02:53.48
William Hernandez
That's insane.

01:02:55.24
LeeJay
Yep.

01:02:55.45
William Hernandez
yeah

01:02:56.16
LeeJay
I think it'll be good. But I'll tell you this. this This is Salah's last chance, and Debo has one more chance, possibly. a strong possibly.

01:03:05.43
William Hernandez
Probably, yes. Yeah.

01:03:07.04
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

01:03:07.19
William Hernandez
I think if he if he if he goes in there and and brings Cam Ward to the next level, that's going to be – it's going to take like a couple of years probably.

01:03:18.30
William Hernandez
Give it like couple, two, three years. I think if he does that, he'll get another chance. um I will say this. i will like I do like the dynamic, and this kind of goes against what LeeJay says, but I kind of like the dynamic.

01:03:31.31
William Hernandez
Dabo's going to be in charge of the offense. And Sal is going to be in charge of the defense. And, you know, we'll see how that, um, we'll see how that works out. So.

01:03:40.98
Erik Pimentel
And from what I heard, they were they were decent friends when they were head coaches here in New York.

01:03:45.30
LeeJay
Yeah.

01:03:45.82
Erik Pimentel
and

01:03:45.98
William Hernandez
Yes. Right.

01:03:46.55
LeeJay
um

01:03:46.86
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. Sharing in the misery. Um,

01:03:50.07
LeeJay
Yeah, I don't think i don't think if i don't think maybe so they take someone else in Tennessee, they will go there.

01:03:56.09
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, that's true.

01:03:57.66
William Hernandez
Hey, listen, they're going they're not going to be facing the media scrutiny there that they did here. So, um,

01:04:01.79
LeeJay
Yeah, it's a soft landing spot to to be successful again.

01:04:04.86
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:04:04.92
Erik Pimentel
Bro, like they're opening a new stadium. People are going focused on that new stadium. They're going to get a couple of years.

01:04:08.98
William Hernandez
Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Okay, number two. Mike McCarthy to the fucking Steelers. What the fuck?

01:04:20.62
William Hernandez
Here's the thing I don't understand about this, and this is the this is the big talking point.

01:04:20.73
Erik Pimentel
Thank you.

01:04:24.73
William Hernandez
We know how the Steelers operate, right? They've had four head coaches in the last, what, 40 years or whatever it is? you I would have thought that they would have taken somebody on the younger side to be like the guys that be there for how many whatever years, and they'd take one of Lee Jay's favorite coaches. i just don't i don't understand...

01:04:47.22
LeeJay
Fuck the you went in the human butt plug.

01:04:47.29
William Hernandez
hu I don't understand what they're doing over there. And I got to tell you this. You know, I love looking at social media comments on Instagram and stuff.

01:04:58.46
William Hernandez
I did not see one Steelers fan comment that liked this hire at all.

01:05:03.25
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:05:05.88
William Hernandez
So I don't know. Lee J, what are your thoughts on your favorite coach, Grimace, going to the Steelers?

01:05:13.21
LeeJay
Just like we have bridge quarterbacks, we have bridge coaches. And this is exactly what this is.

01:05:15.90
William Hernandez
yeah yeah I think you're right.

01:05:18.52
LeeJay
They probably weren't comfortable with any of these young guys that were coming out, whoever they interviewed.

01:05:18.54
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:05:23.99
LeeJay
And they just said, you know what? Let's put a guy here. he He's going to be a win. He wins. Listen, I make fun of him. I don't like him as a coach. I think he's boring. I think he's bland. Eventually, he gets to that playoff game and they lose. It's just proven.

01:05:36.58
LeeJay
Besides that one year in Green Bay when when he won the Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers. But... um He'll have a good, what is he, 62 maybe? 63?

01:05:47.68
William Hernandez
I'll look it up right now.

01:05:47.93
Erik Pimentel
um something like that

01:05:48.36
LeeJay
He'll give them, if they do well, they'll probably give him 10 years. And because he's not going 20. ah

01:05:54.78
William Hernandez
He's 62. 62. Yeah.

01:05:56.15
LeeJay
He'll probably go, all right.

01:05:57.05
William Hernandez
sixty two

01:05:57.66
LeeJay
So eight to 10 years, if he does well, maybe they have some playoffs. It says, dare I say, they find a quarterback and they win a Super Bowl unless they have confidence in this guy. They drafted him from ha Ohio State last year, Will Howard.

01:06:11.54
LeeJay
Um, Who knows if this guy comes back? I don't think he should, but whatever.

01:06:16.02
William Hernandez
That's the other thing. Yeah. Yeah. He might.

01:06:19.45
LeeJay
um i think they still need players on offense. They're still missing a couple pieces. um Yeah, this is not this is something short. I just think that's because they didn't have confidence in maybe the other guys they interviewed. And this is like a so a safe hire.

01:06:32.79
William Hernandez
Yeah, I can see that. Eric, your thoughts.

01:06:36.06
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, my my neighbor across the street, I've told you guys before, he's a Steelers fan. Shout out to Ben. He listens to his podcast sometimes. So um I asked him also, and he's like, yeah, I thought they were going to go the young route, get a guy like Chris Shula um or Kubiak or someone like that.

01:06:53.66
Erik Pimentel
So his thoughts was ho-hum. You know, it's like, okay, you know, it's like you said, it's a stopgap bridge coach to wait until they get another guy.

01:07:01.82
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:07:03.66
Erik Pimentel
But they're going to fall into that. Mediocre misery again, ah and you're not going able to get a quarterback. You're going to win nine, 10 games.

01:07:10.33
LeeJay
no

01:07:11.98
Erik Pimentel
You're going to make the playoffs. going to get bounced in the first round. And you're going to have like the 18th pick in the draft. And you're not going to be able to get a quarterback. They fall into that again.

01:07:20.22
LeeJay
I'm assuming Rodgers isn't coming back. So their best opportunity right now is to go with Howard and see what he has. Right? i don't I don't see what else would you do.

01:07:26.97
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:07:28.44
LeeJay
You drafted this kid, right? He didn't get to really play last year, I don't think at all. So why not? He sat behind Rodgers. He got a chance to learn. Why not start? You're not going start Mason Rudolph.

01:07:38.64
LeeJay
We know who Mason Rudolph is ah

01:07:42.07
Erik Pimentel
I think they have to know something that why hiring McCarthy to, you know, team him up with Rogers for at least one more time. I kind of think that's where they were going with. So I think, yeah.

01:07:53.20
LeeJay
is. I mean, I could see it.

01:07:55.58
Erik Pimentel
But if they don't, it was like you said, where do they go?

01:07:57.40
LeeJay
But I also heard, like, didn't you you guys heard too at the end that tenure? They didn't really get along. they He didn't like, Rodgers didn't like what he was doing.

01:08:02.14
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:08:04.22
LeeJay
And I mean, granted, time heals everything, but who knows?

01:08:04.82
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the rumor. Yeah.

01:08:10.17
LeeJay
Rodgers is a jerk off.

01:08:15.75
William Hernandez
Eric, this guy, Howard, I'm assuming you've seen him play because he went to Ohio State.

01:08:19.06
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, he's quarterback Ohio State. Yeah, I mean, Michigan shut his ass down.

01:08:25.29
William Hernandez
What's the Scotty? Well, what's your personal Scotty report on him?

01:08:28.97
Erik Pimentel
I've seen him a couple few games. he's he's He has a good arm. um I don't know. You know, I'm not going to get into scouting reports. because But um the games that I did see him play against Michigan, ah the when Michigan put pressure on him, he he kind of dwindled down. So...

01:08:46.74
Erik Pimentel
I don't know, maybe, I mean, one year behind Aaron Rodgers, maybe caught, taught he he rubbed, some stuff rubbed off on him, who knows?

01:08:51.41
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:08:54.87
William Hernandez
who Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:08:55.70
LeeJay
Hey, yo, I tripped your rubbing.

01:08:55.80
Erik Pimentel
Well, yeah. Not unless they're in the cave. um But again, I don't i don't know.

01:09:05.15
LeeJay
Roger's smoking that, you know, wacky tobacco. He want to do a rubbing tug.

01:09:12.31
Erik Pimentel
Who knows? I mean, the the guy has, he has tools. So let's see. I mean, will will that qualify in the NFL? Who knows?

01:09:21.52
William Hernandez
All right. I just saw a headline the New York Post about some reporter verifying that Aaron Rodgers indeed has a wife, but nobody knows who the fuck she is.

01:09:29.57
Erik Pimentel
Oh.

01:09:31.17
William Hernandez
Anyway.

01:09:31.33
LeeJay
Oh, God.

01:09:32.18
Erik Pimentel
Made in China.

01:09:35.61
LeeJay
Enough with this shit.

01:09:36.98
Erik Pimentel
yeah

01:09:37.46
LeeJay
God. i mean, at the end of the day, seriously, we joke around about it, but who cares?

01:09:43.54
Erik Pimentel
yeah

01:09:44.79
LeeJay
like who can Like, I don't even care about this stuff.

01:09:44.91
William Hernandez
I care. I'm invested in this.

01:09:45.79
Erik Pimentel
I'm sorry.

01:09:48.70
William Hernandez
I want to see who this woman is. I really do. um Okay, last thing. This whole thing with this Minnesota Vikings GM is just fucking very, very strange.

01:10:01.97
William Hernandez
But I do, there there is one part of this that I that i i want to get your guys' opinion on. Because, um I don't know, it's been ah it's been a talking point. So, don't even know i'm saying this guy's name right. Kwesi Adolfo Mensah.

01:10:18.56
LeeJay
You made that sound racist.

01:10:18.65
William Hernandez
So, come on, dude. You know, there's a lot of questions around him getting fired, ah even though the Vikings had success during his tenure.

01:10:31.80
William Hernandez
But then again, this whole thing but with J.J.

01:10:32.48
Erik Pimentel
Thank you.

01:10:34.48
William Hernandez
McCarthy and letting Sam Darnold go, whatever, whatever. Whatever you want to say about that. But I guess the thing that was had people talking was the fact that he took a two-week paternity leave after the birth of his child in 2023.

01:10:45.48
LeeJay
Thank

01:10:52.22
William Hernandez
And apparently that that left NFL executives and coaches in quote-unquote disbelief. He missed two weeks of training cat training camp meetings and practices and was working remotely ah during this time. And I thought, and ill i don't I'll speak my piece and i'll get your guys thought. I thought we were kind of past this whole, you know,

01:11:22.74
William Hernandez
working workaholic thing when your kid's born and you should probably take the time off to go see your child born and maybe spend some time with them, uh, in the beginning, because we see that now with, uh, with baseball players, right?

01:11:39.54
William Hernandez
When they, when know they miss time now, back in the day that, that was like, no, you fucking stayed.

01:11:42.11
LeeJay
Thank

01:11:44.18
William Hernandez
The child was born. Sorry. You missed out. But now we encourage that type of behavior. I was under the impression that that was across all sports. um And there's a quote here. In an NFL court a culture where many players, coaches, and executives proudly acknowledge missing the births of their children, taking time away to care for a newborn, and support a partner remains uncommon. So, i don't know. I just thought it was a little weird thing that this came out and people were making such a big deal about it like it was a bad thing. But, ah Lee J, I'll go to you first since you have, you know, you have three kids. So, um...

01:12:27.06
William Hernandez
Your thoughts on on that aspect of this situation with the former Vikings GM?

01:12:34.78
LeeJay
Yeah, everyone that thinks otherwise can go fuck themselves. I'm going to go see my kid born.

01:12:38.49
William Hernandez
Right.

01:12:40.31
LeeJay
Whether it's one or not or eight like Robert Sala.

01:12:40.35
William Hernandez
Right.

01:12:43.11
LeeJay
I'm going to go see each and every one of them born. I think it's a stupid argument, to be quite honest. Whether this is the only slight little light that I'll give somebody argument different is this was like his third kid or something.

01:12:59.13
LeeJay
And I don't even still see it then. That's the only argument I could see.

01:13:01.37
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, sure.

01:13:03.83
LeeJay
But still, also he taking time off to care. No one knows his situation, what's going on at home. What if they said his wife was like bedridden or something and she couldn't do something?

01:13:15.45
LeeJay
Like, do i I have to go into so much detail with you?

01:13:15.55
William Hernandez
Right.

01:13:18.42
LeeJay
No, I'm doing this. And that's what i'm I'm here. I'm helping my wife. I'm going to be gone for a couple of weeks. At the same time, I could do the Zoom. I'll be around.

01:13:27.70
William Hernandez
Right, yeah.

01:13:28.33
LeeJay
Blah, blah, blah. It's not like I fell off the planet, right?

01:13:31.92
William Hernandez
They've got cameras at practice, guys.

01:13:33.36
LeeJay
I'm pretty sure they're not going to fire or a trade Justin Jefferson if this was him doing this.

01:13:33.53
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah. Yeah.

01:13:38.97
LeeJay
I just think it's stupid I just I really think this is like a really stupid argument for people that, you know, like you said, these workaholics and stuff. Everyone needs a break somehow, some way.

01:13:49.49
LeeJay
That's just how I whether you're having an a kid, you just need a regular break.

01:13:49.69
William Hernandez
isn

01:13:54.12
LeeJay
Because what's going to happen when you drop dead? It's over.

01:13:56.92
William Hernandez
yeah

01:13:58.01
LeeJay
And then there's no regret. So I don't know. i don't I don't like the argument. I think you should be there for the birth your children. and And I understand, too, that everyone doesn't have to sit share share their same opinion as me. And that's fine. That's fair.

01:14:11.50
William Hernandez
Eric.

01:14:12.44
Erik Pimentel
So back up for a second. So what's the timeline on this? He got he got fired recently, but when did he did he take these two weeks?

01:14:17.69
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:14:20.74
William Hernandez
2023.

01:14:20.92
LeeJay
Yeah, it was a couple years ago.

01:14:21.24
William Hernandez
Two years ago.

01:14:21.65
Erik Pimentel
2002.

01:14:22.04
William Hernandez
Three years ago now.

01:14:22.23
Erik Pimentel
look

01:14:22.84
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:14:22.97
Erik Pimentel
Okay.

01:14:23.80
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:14:23.86
Erik Pimentel
so So here's my thing. So I just think this is a cop out for they that just wanted to fire him or something like that.

01:14:30.08
LeeJay
Yep.

01:14:31.64
Erik Pimentel
But my thing is this. Modern technology, bro. You're a general manager. You don't you don't need to be on the field all the time.

01:14:39.39
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:14:39.74
Erik Pimentel
you could do You could do your wheeling and dealing at your house and still be taking care your It's only a couple of weeks.

01:14:39.80
William Hernandez
I agree.

01:14:45.91
Erik Pimentel
So this don't make no sense. It's not like you're a player or you're or a coach. You're a general manager. You could do all of that. A lot of that stuff could be done, and you don't need to be in the building to do it.

01:14:57.27
Erik Pimentel
So it don't make no sense. I mean, the if if he did get rid get fired for for that, I just think it's nonsense. Who knows? It may lead to a lawsuit. you know, and and it could lead to a lawsuit and the Vikings will be the deep.

01:15:09.47
William Hernandez
Yeah, it could. Yeah, it's possible.

01:15:13.82
Erik Pimentel
So i don't know It's just nonsense.

01:15:16.34
William Hernandez
Yeah, I don't know if that was the particular reason. it was It was just kind of something that kind of came out. But it could be a thing where what happens if they thought that, oh, this guy's not dedicated to his job.

01:15:27.67
William Hernandez
You know, when you look at everything in totality of the time he was there, he missed two weeks. I don't know. Listen, we've watched Hard Knocks. um They record everything. There are so many fucking reports after practice that they make that you have to go over. It's it's like you could do that from you could do that from home. They got the players now. They're wearing fucking, like, GoPros on their helmets, too.

01:15:49.46
William Hernandez
You know? Like, I don't want especially to – especially the quarterback. I don't i don't get it. It doesn't make any sense to me.

01:15:53.11
Erik Pimentel
There's got to be something more to it. we all we all know We all know that one or two people at our job that will call out for anything.

01:15:55.09
LeeJay
There's more something to it, man. i Yeah, I don't...

01:15:56.54
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah, there probably is. Yeah.

01:16:03.86
Erik Pimentel
And they and they they take out you know two, three days off a month all the time.

01:16:04.29
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:16:07.54
Erik Pimentel
We all know those people. So you know it may may be something like they just saw him slacking at his job and whatever the case may be.

01:16:09.00
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:16:14.93
Erik Pimentel
And they just seen that as the you know icing on the cake, which is shouldn't be the case, but it is what it is.

01:16:21.72
LeeJay
Listen, I feel like I'll say this and ill that's ah that's it for me. um There's a reason why they don't put these things in contracts because that's where the fuzzy and the gray areas come in. You know you can't do that.

01:16:32.64
LeeJay
You're not God or whoever you want to think someone is to tell someone what's important to them in their personal life.

01:16:33.44
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.

01:16:38.55
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:16:39.06
LeeJay
If you put that in a contract, going probably get sued or something like that. This is why these things aren't put in the contract.

01:16:42.50
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:16:43.90
LeeJay
So that way, when it's done, we could probably say that's the reason why. But we don't really know. Whatever. Listen, whatever, man. Have another kid. Go go see them born again. Who cares?

01:16:54.07
Erik Pimentel
yeah ah

01:16:57.81
William Hernandez
Oh, boy. Okay. Super Bowl 60. is on Sunday. So, of course, we have to talk about a little bit and give our pick. We're going to go back to our NFL picks for this game and have a little fun with some prop bets. But but first, I mean, we all know by now, Pats versus Seahawks.

01:17:21.59
William Hernandez
i this Can we stop with this? It's a rematch. it's Guys, it's not a rematch. They were 11 years ago. it was two totally different teams.

01:17:28.64
Erik Pimentel
Thank you.

01:17:31.45
LeeJay
I doubt if any of those players in those teams 11 years ago still on this team playing. I don't know.

01:17:36.41
William Hernandez
thereby Yeah, there might be some equipment manager or something, but that's about it.

01:17:39.50
LeeJay
No problem talking about maybe players.

01:17:41.75
William Hernandez
yo No, no, no, they can't be. There's no fucking way. um I think it's fair to say there's going to be a lot of attention on the two quarterbacks in this game. Drake Mays only in his second year, and the you he already has the Pats back in the Super Bowl.

01:17:57.05
William Hernandez
Obviously, a lot of it has to do with dumb but the coach whose name I can't remember off the top of my head. cra

01:18:03.79
LeeJay
Rabel?

01:18:04.47
William Hernandez
Yeah, there you go. And then there's obviously Mike Gott, Sam Darno. You know, we already know the journey by now. Jets, Panthers, 49ers, Vikings. And now he is with the Seahawks. One interesting stat that I saw was how the Pats are only allowing 8.7 points per game in the playoffs.

01:18:28.73
William Hernandez
Now, um made the note here. You had the weather game in Denver. yeah That kind of contributed to it. But, you know, still, not even allowing 10 points a game is pretty, that's nothing to sneeze at. So, the line for the actual game.

01:18:50.78
William Hernandez
The Seahawks are favored by four and a half. And the over under is 45 and a half for this game.

01:19:04.02
William Hernandez
Pretty, pretty, um you know, Vegas is expecting a close game. Let's go around the horn the way we used to here.

01:19:14.72
William Hernandez
Eric, who do you have here for the Super Bowl on Sunday?

01:19:21.53
Erik Pimentel
So before I say that, I just like listening to some of these talking heads, you would think the Patriots are like the Jets.

01:19:32.31
Erik Pimentel
Like they they have the Seahawks blowing them out.

01:19:32.32
William Hernandez
Really? That's a joke.

01:19:35.74
Erik Pimentel
Like I'm hearing it's not going to be close.

01:19:36.09
LeeJay
and have ah never They have a they have have they have blowout. Yeah. I heard that a lot. Yup.

01:19:40.34
Erik Pimentel
I was like, where the hell do they get that from? To me, I mean, the Seahawks is a good team.

01:19:42.33
William Hernandez
Interesting.

01:19:44.17
Erik Pimentel
Don't get me wrong. But

01:19:45.36
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:19:46.32
Erik Pimentel
Patriots got here for a reason. You know, it's reminded me of Jets, you know, Giants, you know, ah Patriots from back in the day when the Giants got no freaking, you know, shot, according to all these talking heads.

01:19:48.16
William Hernandez
Right.

01:19:57.30
William Hernandez
Yeah. Right.

01:19:58.68
Erik Pimentel
So I think the Seahawks are going to win. i don't think it's going to be a blowout like they said. they may They may cover the four and a half, which, i'll you know, i'll I'll just say, yeah, they'll cover the four and a half. and But I don't think it's going to be a blowout like they say it.

01:20:14.54
William Hernandez
That's interesting. what about for What about for a final score? Any thoughts on that?

01:20:19.80
Erik Pimentel
Uh, shit. Let me see.

01:20:21.17
LeeJay
Amen.

01:20:21.56
Erik Pimentel
45 and a half. Well, I'm going to say 27, 21 or something like that. So, you know, it'll cover, it'll, it they'll cover the four and a half, but it's going to be ah it's going to be a, you know, it's going to come down to the last possession, I think.

01:20:27.74
William Hernandez
Hmm.

01:20:36.54
William Hernandez
Yeah, which is like it's kind of what you want for for these games. You know, it's like like last year was so fucking boring.

01:20:39.89
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:20:42.34
William Hernandez
My God. When there's a blowout, it sucks. give me a Give me a close game every single time. So, LeeJay.

01:20:53.21
LeeJay
I have it exactly. It's 27-21. Seahawks.

01:20:55.42
William Hernandez
a

01:20:56.02
Erik Pimentel
There you go.

01:20:57.93
William Hernandez
Gotcha.

01:20:59.97
LeeJay
I think it'll be a little bit more than a field goal.

01:21:02.63
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

01:21:04.18
LeeJay
Yeah, so I got the same score. so you see same I picked them from the beginning when we did our playoff bracket. I'm stick with it.

01:21:10.28
William Hernandez
Yeah. I've got the Seahawks as well. I think we all, you know, we said this, you know, when we did the ah the playoff picks in the beginning, I've got a little bit of more high scoring.

01:21:22.96
William Hernandez
I've got 30 for 24. So it's just the the one thing it's May and his turnovers.

01:21:34.42
William Hernandez
That's going to be, I think, the wild card here, so to speak. So if he, if he limits the mistakes, I think that they'll, you know, that they'll score enough, enough here, by the way, Darnold didn't practice a couple of times last week.

01:21:53.30
William Hernandez
So

01:21:54.23
LeeJay
yeah he doesn't need He doesn't need to. He knows what he's doing. He's made it this far. There's no, if it's wrestling up that little rib or whatever that injury was he had, the oblique.

01:22:04.09
William Hernandez
the oblique. Yeah.

01:22:04.76
LeeJay
Yeah, there's no reason for him to do that.

01:22:04.97
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:22:06.88
LeeJay
You do a little walkthrough whatever, that's fine. He'll probably star he start probably gearing up this week sometime and then they'll they'll go from there.

01:22:10.02
Erik Pimentel
It wasn't.

01:22:16.22
Erik Pimentel
Drake May was dealing with like a shoulder injury too.

01:22:18.78
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah. So they were both you know they were both kind of banged up. so ah Okay.

01:22:23.92
LeeJay
It's a long year and here we are.

01:22:30.20
William Hernandez
Let's do a couple of prop bets here. Hmm. There's a lot of them. Bro, it's it's it's it's fucking crazy. do you want to do the coin toss? said No, we're not going to do the coin toss.

01:22:41.05
LeeJay
my God, come on. That's some real fucking, come on.

01:22:43.26
William Hernandez
ah That's some degenerate shit. That's Caesar. Caesar, I know you're listening to this because I know listening to the podcast.

01:22:46.90
LeeJay
Jesus Christmas.

01:22:49.91
William Hernandez
If you bet on the coin toss, I'm going to punch you in the face when I see you on Sunday.

01:22:57.30
William Hernandez
ah Okay. Now, who do we think has the best chance to score the first touchdown? And I'll give you guys the options. I'll give you guys the top five options here on FanDuel and the odds.

01:23:13.38
William Hernandez
You've got Kenneth Walker III at plus 360.

01:23:16.18
Erik Pimentel
Thank you.

01:23:17.85
William Hernandez
Jackson Smith and Jigba at plus 550. ah how do you steveson How do you say his first name?

01:23:26.54
LeeJay
Remondre.

01:23:27.66
William Hernandez
Ramondre. Jesus. Ramondre Stevenson is at plus 800. Hunter Henry is at plus

01:23:37.30
William Hernandez
And then I should have said this one first because they hit the way they have this is all weird. And then AJ Barner is plus 1,200. Who are we thinking here?

01:23:50.07
William Hernandez
Jay, I'll go with you first on this one. Wait,

01:23:53.27
LeeJay
I'll go in the middle of the pack. I'll take Hunter Henry.

01:23:55.74
Erik Pimentel
Dammit, took my pick. That was my pick too.

01:23:58.87
William Hernandez
wait wait. What did you say, Eric? Hunter Henry?

01:24:00.73
Erik Pimentel
Hunter, yeah, that was my pick too.

01:24:01.12
William Hernandez
Both of you guys? Oh, that's interesting.

01:24:04.78
LeeJay
I could see the exact play how it's going to play out to that play action rollout.

01:24:04.80
William Hernandez
That's interesting.

01:24:08.89
LeeJay
And he's wide open in the corner.

01:24:09.07
William Hernandez
Hmm.

01:24:09.15
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:24:10.33
LeeJay
They do that a lot.

01:24:12.14
Erik Pimentel
Yep, they sure do.

01:24:12.60
William Hernandez
Interesting. Uh, Hmm. I'm going to go with, uh,

01:24:24.02
William Hernandez
I want to go with Stevenson. He, he helped me do her fantasy this year. So give him a little shout out.

01:24:30.36
LeeJay
Where's this guy at? Oh, he's down there. Trayvon Henderson.

01:24:33.69
William Hernandez
Yeah, he is. Uh, it's,

01:24:35.50
LeeJay
He's last on the list.

01:24:36.80
William Hernandez
Stephon Biggs is down there.

01:24:37.75
LeeJay
Hmm.

01:24:37.98
William Hernandez
Even Cooper Cup is down. ah Yeah, it's interesting the way how far down it goes.

01:24:40.89
LeeJay
no

01:24:43.86
William Hernandez
Watch it be somebody like fucking Rashid Shahid who's plus 1,800. I can see that happening, though.

01:24:50.10
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

01:24:50.96
William Hernandez
It's funny because they also have defensive players on um on you know the betting. Demario Douglas is plus 3,000 on the Seattle defense.

01:25:02.52
LeeJay
Notice the Seattle defense.

01:25:02.68
William Hernandez
Good lord.

01:25:03.68
LeeJay
Douglas is a receiver on the Patriots.

01:25:05.34
William Hernandez
Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, i'm'm I'm looking at this wrong.

01:25:07.56
LeeJay
It's the Seattle defense in totality.

01:25:09.05
William Hernandez
Yeah, in totality. Yes, yes, yes.

01:25:10.26
LeeJay
Plus 3,000.

01:25:10.65
William Hernandez
Sorry. Yes. Yeah. Darno's plus 3,500. Where's Drake May? They don't even... I don't even...

01:25:18.33
LeeJay
I think I saw him. Maybe not.

01:25:20.40
William Hernandez
Oh, he's... I don't see him at all.

01:25:22.23
LeeJay
Oh, yeah. He's a plus 1,700. He's right below Cooper Cup.

01:25:25.66
William Hernandez
oh Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, there he is. Okay. Okay, let's do one more here. Hmm.

01:25:34.78
William Hernandez
o Oh, I like these correct score ones.

01:25:38.26
LeeJay
oh god

01:25:38.93
William Hernandez
How deep do we want to go, though? Let's do the top six.

01:25:41.74
LeeJay
i'm gonna see if let's see if uh i'm looking that shit is down there it's even on here yep it's right there plus 20 000 i'm in there bobo hold on hu actually no hold on i stand corrected i stand corrected hold on hold on i stand corrected uh

01:25:44.15
William Hernandez
no are what Are your guys' scores here?

01:25:49.13
William Hernandez
Holy shit! What is it?

01:25:52.99
Erik Pimentel
Oh, let's go, Lee J. You

01:26:03.28
William Hernandez
I'm going to bet my score.

01:26:04.06
LeeJay
now Hold on.

01:26:04.22
William Hernandez
What did I say?

01:26:04.58
LeeJay
Give me a second.

01:26:04.86
William Hernandez
30 to 24?

01:26:05.10
LeeJay
i stand I stand corrected. Give me a second. Give me a second.

01:26:08.41
Erik Pimentel
guys got Zell? yeah

01:26:10.65
William Hernandez
So to 24 is plus seven.

01:26:14.55
LeeJay
The one that Eric and had, 27, 21, is plus $12,500. The Patriots, 27, Seattle, 21 was the other one said, plus 20 grand.

01:26:17.17
William Hernandez
Oh wait, Seahawks. Yes, yes, yes.

01:26:22.93
William Hernandez
Okay.

01:26:23.26
LeeJay
the patriot de patriot twenty seven seattle twenty one was the other one i said

01:26:26.65
William Hernandez
Yes, that's yes, yes, yes.

01:26:27.96
LeeJay
plus twenty plus twenty grand

01:26:28.17
William Hernandez
yeah I saw that. Oh shit. That's crazy. This is insane that they have this. And look at all these fucking options. Holy fuck, bro.

01:26:39.15
LeeJay
$100 gets you $12,500, baby.

01:26:41.99
Erik Pimentel
Let's go. I'm down.

01:26:43.38
LeeJay
fifty fifty What's what's what's um hold on what's ah what's a buck can't do that math real quick.

01:26:45.53
Erik Pimentel
I'm down.

01:26:53.53
LeeJay
eighteen thousand seven fifty fifty fifty fifty like lotddle fifty fifty

01:26:55.61
Erik Pimentel
That's it.

01:26:59.54
LeeJay
let's go talk to me

01:27:00.23
Erik Pimentel
That's it. We be throwing money up in the air in July.

01:27:02.78
LeeJay
right here on the air i'm in yu you in

01:27:06.00
Erik Pimentel
Let's do it. Let's do it. I'm in.

01:27:06.97
LeeJay
send it There we go.

01:27:09.31
William Hernandez
Wait, wait, wait. What are we doing now?

01:27:10.84
LeeJay
If you want to go with the Seahawks 27-21 score that Eric and i had at twelve at plus each.

01:27:11.30
Erik Pimentel
Final score.

01:27:15.34
William Hernandez
Let's do it. So how much how much each?

01:27:19.83
LeeJay
The gets

01:27:20.30
Erik Pimentel
each.

01:27:21.18
William Hernandez
it Okay, let's do it.

01:27:25.28
Erik Pimentel
Shoot.

01:27:25.30
William Hernandez
You got a place to bet? I'll send you the money.

01:27:27.77
LeeJay
ah place the bed um as soon as we're done here

01:27:29.98
William Hernandez
Okay.

01:27:30.82
Erik Pimentel
What you got?

01:27:31.00
William Hernandez
cheese Yeah, yeah.

01:27:31.18
Erik Pimentel
You got Zell, when what do you got?

01:27:32.41
LeeJay
yeah my number my i'll give you my out i'll text i put the i put my number in the in the group chat and then you could do it from there

01:27:34.79
William Hernandez
Let's do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:38.22
Erik Pimentel
Cool.

01:27:38.22
William Hernandez
Let's not. Let's not.

01:27:40.02
Erik Pimentel
Let's not share our numbers right now.

01:27:40.28
William Hernandez
i was

01:27:40.38
LeeJay
No, of course, of course i don't need i don't need I don't need any fucking monsters fucking texting me or people I don't want texting me.

01:27:47.29
William Hernandez
ah Let's do one more here quick. Who do we think considerll be leading at halftime? The Seahawks or the Patriots? We've got a minus 194 on Seahawks plus 156 on the Pats.

01:28:00.66
William Hernandez
and plus one fifty six on the hats Eric, who you think is going to be leading at halftime?

01:28:10.73
LeeJay
got it. I know. who I think.

01:28:11.20
William Hernandez
It's a tough one.

01:28:11.75
LeeJay
14

01:28:12.32
Erik Pimentel
I'm to say the Patriots.

01:28:15.51
LeeJay
to 10, because it still lines up with our score, 27 to 21.

01:28:17.86
Erik Pimentel
Something like that.

01:28:17.91
LeeJay
Same, 14 to 10.

01:28:19.10
Erik Pimentel
Something like that, yeah

01:28:20.79
William Hernandez
Wait, so, LJ, who do you have leading at a halftime?

01:28:22.89
LeeJay
I tried to line it real quick score-wise to end the way we want it to end, and that's the perfect score at halftime.

01:28:27.59
William Hernandez
Interstate.

01:28:29.27
LeeJay
Patriots up 14 to 10. They score another touchdown coming into the half, plus the extra point. That's 21. Then Seattle scores two two two more touchdowns, including an extra point with a field goal. Final score, 27-21. I'm

01:28:42.63
Erik Pimentel
Bingo. Let me see.

01:28:45.11
William Hernandez
Interesting. My only concern is the two-point conversion. That kind of just fucks everything up.

01:28:51.04
Erik Pimentel
Wow.

01:28:51.22
LeeJay
i trying to think.

01:28:51.29
William Hernandez
um

01:28:52.38
LeeJay
i would have I'm going to go check that, but I don't know if they really play around with that.

01:28:56.13
William Hernandez
In a Super Bowl? You should.

01:28:56.73
LeeJay
Even people. leaving points in the field.

01:28:58.23
William Hernandez
Maybe check that first.

01:28:59.64
LeeJay
Like, I don't, I don't, I'm not even thinking about the two points.

01:29:00.43
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.

01:29:02.29
LeeJay
I'm not even worried about that, be honest you. To be honest with you, you don't want to leave points in the field during the Super Bowl.

01:29:07.03
William Hernandez
right yeah

01:29:08.54
Erik Pimentel
Maybe if it was the Lions dumbass coach, he'll do it. two point conversions every like five times a game.

01:29:12.89
LeeJay
Yeah, for everything.

01:29:16.54
William Hernandez
All right. Halftime, which came to fruition just this afternoon. And then we're not going to spend – I don't think going to spend – well, who knows the way I'm feeling well about some of these people. So Eric sent along this ah this thing in our group chat.

01:29:35.77
William Hernandez
Let me but just pull it up here so I make sure I'm looking at the actual – the actual names here. God, we send each other so many fucking messages.

01:29:52.02
William Hernandez
My God. Okay, here it is. Somebody posted this. Oh, hold on.

01:29:57.94
LeeJay
Hey, yo.

01:29:58.07
William Hernandez
just Yeah. It's this this, and I'll give credit to the... um hey Everybody...

01:30:05.84
LeeJay
Hey, I wanted to do it too.

01:30:08.41
William Hernandez
I'll give credit to the account on Instagram is broad, broad squad. No, broad squad sports.

01:30:16.99
LeeJay
Sports. Yeah, sport. Yeah.

01:30:18.94
William Hernandez
It's very. Okay, guys. um Interesting thing. Silence three mics forever. And it is 12.00. i TV personalities, some of which we have spoken about in this show many times before.

01:30:37.13
William Hernandez
So I'm going to give the 12 names here quick. You've got Colin Cowherd, Stephen A. Smith, Skip Bayless, Jamel Hill, Ryan Clark, David Portnoy, Jason Whitlock, Nick Wright, Kendrick Perkins, Cam Newton, Joy Taylor, and Mina Kimes.

01:30:59.51
William Hernandez
ah Ah, boy. Okay. Eric, who are your three people here?

01:31:07.03
Erik Pimentel
So my first, and I mentioned them earlier, cam Newton. Yep, Cam Newton could go with his dumb hats. higo goody He could get the heck out of here. I don't know how to, i mean, he just annoys the crap out of me.

01:31:19.13
Erik Pimentel
Everything is is racial undertones with him. It's unbelievable. It just, make he makes no sense. He's my first one. um My second one would be Stephen A. Smith.

01:31:31.47
William Hernandez
Ah, okay. Yes. Sounds like

01:31:32.95
Erik Pimentel
Just because again, he's, an I mean, I'll give him credit. He's good at, he's good not with basketball. I'll give him that a little bit of that.

01:31:41.79
William Hernandez
an idiot.

01:31:42.71
Erik Pimentel
But when he starts talking about the other sports, that's when he's just like, shut the hell up.

01:31:43.01
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:31:47.49
William Hernandez
I...

01:31:48.38
Erik Pimentel
I remember one time he, I can't remember the team. He was talking about baseball. And he mentioned, a he talked about a player that was on the team three years ago. And he thought he was still on the team.

01:31:59.65
William Hernandez
I remember that. I can't remember the T.

01:32:00.63
Erik Pimentel
I can't remember.

01:32:01.09
William Hernandez
Yeah. Damn. I know you're

01:32:02.14
Erik Pimentel
Unbelievable.

01:32:03.28
LeeJay
I don't want no one talking to me that can't even throw a baseball about baseball.

01:32:03.32
Erik Pimentel
And if,

01:32:05.98
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, exactly.

01:32:06.45
William Hernandez
telling me.

01:32:07.58
Erik Pimentel
Exactly. My third one, because some of these people like I don't watch ESPN much. So Nick Wright, I think hes he's a basketball analyst, I think.

01:32:18.52
Erik Pimentel
I don't know much about him.

01:32:18.90
LeeJay
Yeah, he's on FS1.

01:32:19.10
William Hernandez
I think so. Yeah.

01:32:19.98
LeeJay
He's on FS1.

01:32:20.95
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:32:21.02
Erik Pimentel
ah Joy Taylor, from what I heard, she just got her jobs for her looks from what from what I've heard.

01:32:26.91
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:32:27.90
Erik Pimentel
I don't know how much of an analyst she is, but I really know her. So I'll skip her. The next two, um it's a tie for me between Skip Bayless and Jemele Hill. is that ah Jemele Hill is another one.

01:32:43.10
Erik Pimentel
You know, when she was with ESPN, I don't know if she's still with ESPN, but she went when she was on TV a lot.

01:32:47.93
LeeJay
No, I don't think i don't think so.

01:32:49.62
Erik Pimentel
it would Again, with the racial undertones and all of this stuff. And I don't think she knows much personally to me. And then Skip Bayless, we all know Skip Bayless says some outrageous stuff all the time just to get clicks, you know.

01:32:59.59
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:33:00.57
Erik Pimentel
So that that would be, it would be three, my three would be a tie.

01:33:00.76
William Hernandez
yeah

01:33:05.46
Erik Pimentel
So it's Stephen A.

01:33:05.94
William Hernandez
Gotcha.

01:33:06.82
Erik Pimentel
Smith, Cam Newton, and a tie between Bayless and Jamel

01:33:10.36
William Hernandez
Interesting. Uh, Lee

01:33:14.23
LeeJay
Yeah, to Eric's point, is ah like some people on here, um i don't even count them cause i don't even listen to them. Even though I've heard some of their things, I just... They're irrelevant to me. But my three are...

01:33:26.50
LeeJay
Steven A.

01:33:28.13
William Hernandez
Okay.

01:33:29.66
LeeJay
ah just think his gimmick is...

01:33:31.61
William Hernandez
It's the gimmick. Yeah.

01:33:32.54
Erik Pimentel
tired yeah

01:33:33.30
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:33:33.49
LeeJay
It's it's all the screaming and all this kind of stuff and all this.

01:33:36.34
William Hernandez
yeah

01:33:37.13
LeeJay
I just... I don't like it, personally. um Jamil Hill I don't like her I mean I don't hear from her as much now she's not as much in social media coming through but when I did everything about her some racial undertone always and that's probably never changed even though I don't hear about her anymore and the next one is Ryan Clark I cannot stand that dude

01:33:55.99
Erik Pimentel
He almost made my list too.

01:33:58.62
LeeJay
did just that and that that what made it for me was that uber story go away

01:34:05.41
William Hernandez
Oh, with the music, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

01:34:06.94
LeeJay
Go away, bro. Just everything can't be associated with that. Meanwhile, you're sitting on your 100 acres and all of that. Stuff that people go through, you're not going through as...

01:34:19.92
William Hernandez
yeah, yeah.

01:34:21.02
LeeJay
That was just me being sarcastic.

01:34:23.58
William Hernandez
Wait. Oh, does he have state somewhere?

01:34:25.05
LeeJay
You know, him sitting for him sitting in his you know his Eiffel Tower and all of that.

01:34:25.96
William Hernandez
Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:34:29.78
LeeJay
i don't i don't i don't i don't I don't care for him. I don't really care. It's my opinion. And you can suck it. I don't care. There's one person on this list that I actually did feel this way, but my and I'll be fair, because now my thoughts have changed on him and I actually like him as a commentator.

01:34:46.42
William Hernandez
I know who you're going to go. Yeah. Go ahead.

01:34:47.96
LeeJay
And that's Kendrick Perkins.

01:34:49.06
Erik Pimentel
Kendrick Perkins, yeah.

01:34:49.43
William Hernandez
oh Oh, okay. I'm surprised.

01:34:51.10
LeeJay
and it's not And it's not even about the Knicks.

01:34:53.72
William Hernandez
I thought it was Jason Woodlock.

01:34:55.45
LeeJay
No, i've I've never really had a problem with Jason Willock. I don't mind listening.

01:34:58.13
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:34:58.36
LeeJay
So sometimes where he bothers me when he everything's associated with him, the final answer is like God and religion.

01:35:04.63
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:05.84
LeeJay
That's my biggest problem with him, but that's what he believes, so I can't knock him.

01:35:06.28
William Hernandez
Right.

01:35:09.56
LeeJay
Besides that, a lot of the stuff he says is truthful, and he goes at people. He doesn't care, right?

01:35:14.39
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:35:14.66
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:35:16.57
LeeJay
The Kendrick Perkins thing, now I actually sit down and I listen to what he has to say. A lot of the stuff he says, whether it's against my team or not, if you just listen, it's true.

01:35:27.99
LeeJay
i don't know but i don't I don't want to say it's true because a lot of people don't agree with that. So I'm not going to say it that. It's still his opinion. I'll just say I like his opinion. I like him talking basketball. And I like his knowledge.

01:35:38.55
Erik Pimentel
he he Exactly. Like he educates you instead of yelling and saying dumb shit. Like he'll say something and then back it up.

01:35:43.16
LeeJay
For screaming for the sake of screaming.

01:35:44.89
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:45.21
LeeJay
Correct. And that's why I've changed my... i don't think he should be on the... I don't think he should be one of the picks. But maybe that goes back to why i didn't...

01:35:51.51
William Hernandez
Interesting.

01:35:53.27
LeeJay
Somebody else, they still don't like him for what I didn't used to like him about. You know what i mean?

01:35:57.24
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. um I will say the one person on this that I think gets unfairly criticized, I think, is Mina Kimes.

01:36:11.86
William Hernandez
I don't know. I just think it's because she's a woman and people don't like women sports people. i just it's just Trust me, it's a thing, guys. um Speaking of women...

01:36:22.40
LeeJay
I've listened to one person in particular that doesn't really like her. And to his points, I kind of agree with him. I don't think it's because he's never mentioned it like a woman thing. I think he gets offended when she tries to talk about X's and O's and what happens in a football locker room that he says, you don't know because you're not there.

01:36:40.70
LeeJay
Which of which I could see that.

01:36:41.18
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:36:42.69
LeeJay
I could see that argument.

01:36:43.10
William Hernandez
That, yeah, I mean, that that's fair. I mean, that goes to almost all these people because the majority of these people are not in locker rooms either. So, um Jemele Hill.

01:36:58.46
William Hernandez
And i'll I'll tell you guys a little thing about Jemele Hill. Jemele Hill, for a lot of the like early 2000s, mid-2000s, was hated by a lot of sportswriters like me back in the day. She used to be at the Orlando Sentinel.

01:37:17.22
William Hernandez
That's how she got her career started. She was a sportswriter for the alandal so Orlando Sentinel. And she caused a lot of fucking controversy at that newspaper for many, many years.

01:37:29.08
William Hernandez
She was always talked about. There were, there was a, there was a so i don't know if it's still around. There was a sports site called sportsjournalists.com. And it was basically like a message board.

01:37:42.55
William Hernandez
And there was a thread dedicated to Jamel Hill. Let's just put it that way. She was, and to this day, to everything you guys said, um the racial undertones, this, that, and other thing, blah, blah, blah.

01:37:55.35
William Hernandez
It's number two. Ryan Clark. I'm sick of that fucking guy. Sick of him. And the the fact that he had the fucking audacity. i don't know if you guys remember. they What was that?

01:38:08.95
William Hernandez
What was the HBO show that was like the NFL? Inside the NFL or some shit like that?

01:38:14.62
LeeJay
Yeah, he's on it now, but it's on like channel 11 or something like that with Chad Johnson.

01:38:14.97
William Hernandez
and Yeah. It's on the CW. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was... I actually... And this was... when when that show switched over to the CW, I have to admit, I wasn't really familiar with Ryan Clark that much because I didn't want, I don't watch ESPN like that anymore.

01:38:34.87
William Hernandez
But I remember when the show first started and and I was watching I was like, this is terrible. Like Clark made it bad. um The criticisms the next day about it.

01:38:49.82
William Hernandez
And guess what he was saying? Blaming it on race. Oh, it's a black man hosting the show, so you can't say anything good about it. No, brother, you just fucking suck. ah So that's the bottom line.

01:39:03.38
William Hernandez
My number one guy.

01:39:05.02
LeeJay
Oh, boy. We already know, guys. Hold on.

01:39:06.36
William Hernandez
And I was telling i was telling this to these guys and that they're in the youtubebe chat. Shows you my real-life hatred. for both liberals and conservatives and Republicans and and Democrats.

01:39:20.73
William Hernandez
Fucking Dave Portnoy. I hate that motherfucker. Mostly because he's he's responsible for one of the other people that i fucking hate. Frank the Tank. if there was no If there was no barstool, there would be no Frank the Tank!

01:39:38.48
William Hernandez
Don't forget that, guys.

01:39:40.12
Erik Pimentel
Oh, man.

01:39:40.70
William Hernandez
He is just I hate him going around with the whole fucking pizza thing and fuck you. Fuck you. fuck Fuck Boston.

01:39:49.21
LeeJay
Wow.

01:39:49.43
William Hernandez
Fuck out of here.

01:39:50.33
Erik Pimentel
Jeez.

01:39:51.90
LeeJay
wood

01:39:52.38
William Hernandez
can't stand that fucking guy.

01:39:52.63
LeeJay
You would think this guy killed this guy's dog or something.

01:39:54.74
William Hernandez
I can't stand him. i And he just... All the political shit and this, that. It's just... Oh, I'm fucking... I'm so sick of it.

01:40:02.97
Erik Pimentel
he got he

01:40:03.28
William Hernandez
Oh, I fucking...

01:40:04.38
Erik Pimentel
He gets a pass from me for only one reason.

01:40:07.83
William Hernandez
Which is why.

01:40:08.71
Erik Pimentel
He's a Michigan fan. yeah

01:40:10.47
William Hernandez
Oh, come on. That was the other thing, too. That's the other thing, too, with him being banned from being at Ohio State. Come on.

01:40:19.04
Erik Pimentel
Oh, man.

01:40:19.33
William Hernandez
You fucking idiot.

01:40:19.62
LeeJay
i've i've i've I've... And as we go... like These people don't bother me as much anymore, we but we brought it up, so we want to talk it in the moment when we used to like you know hate what they said and blah, blah, blah.

01:40:30.01
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:40:30.38
LeeJay
I'm going to go back to Eric's point a couple episodes ago. And to your point about Dave Portnoy right now. Anytime he comes up, I just don't even view it. I move on.

01:40:42.05
LeeJay
Because I'm not going to allow anything to aggravate me for no reason.

01:40:45.85
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:40:46.04
LeeJay
I'm just not... I just can't do it anymore. i just It's tiring. It gives me a fucking headache. And he's not going to change.

01:40:54.07
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:40:54.35
LeeJay
he's hiss he's he's

01:40:54.35
William Hernandez
No, he's not.

01:40:56.17
LeeJay
He's made a lot of money doing what he's done, so I got to give him credit for that. However he did it, he did it. I don't want to take that away from him. But I don't have time.

01:41:05.21
William Hernandez
Yeah. he He made money because he tapped into that frat bro. That frat bro tech bro culture of sports. And he made a lot of money off of that because there are a lot of fucking low IQ people out there that like his his shit.

01:41:21.32
William Hernandez
That's what it comes down to at the end of the day.

01:41:22.91
LeeJay
I wish I was part of that low IQ at that time.

01:41:25.72
Erik Pimentel
Call me Gronkowski.

01:41:27.35
LeeJay
You feel me?

01:41:27.51
William Hernandez
And I'm right. That's the thing. I'm i'm sorry. And I'm not to say I'm the most intelligent person out there, but I'm better than that. Sorry.

01:41:34.97
Erik Pimentel
So I don't know. Okay. So, okay. So the the backstory with Portnoy, you you just mentioned that he he started up that that, you know, barstool, I think.

01:41:44.02
William Hernandez
Bar school sports. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:41:45.43
Erik Pimentel
So I know a lot of people, a lot of you know local restaurants give them credit for helping them around you know during the pandemic and stuff like that.

01:41:51.69
William Hernandez
I'll give him credit for that. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yes.

01:41:53.91
Erik Pimentel
I don't know i don't know all the all the crazy shit about Portnoy because I'm just learning about him like the last three, four years.

01:41:54.07
William Hernandez
Yes, yes.

01:42:01.18
Erik Pimentel
So I mean, I don't have that many issues with him like you do.

01:42:01.34
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:42:04.63
William Hernandez
Yeah. No, I mean, I'll give him credit for the whole, because listen, and and and this is what I agree with. I do agree with him and about the whole thing with the lockdowns. I thought it was, you know, not to get all political, but I thought it was, it was bullshit because, you know, a lot of small businesses went under during that time. And, and Legion and I have talked about this privately a million fucking times, but that really hurt a lot of small businesses. So I do give him credit for getting the names out there of these businesses, especially like the pizza shops and all that stuff. But the other stuff, like i can't I just can't with him.

01:42:36.07
William Hernandez
It's all the fucking show. It's all you know being this fake fucking Caitlyn Clark fan because he's got to make the whole fucking thing racial about you know the attacks against Caitlyn Clark. And to be fair or unfair, you know there is some validity to that. But he takes it too far. It's fake to me.

01:42:52.38
William Hernandez
That whole thing about wearing Caitlyn Clark jersey. Bro, show me what guy wears a fucking WNBA jersey. Okay. Unless he's...

01:43:00.63
LeeJay
I saw him a couple of years ago on 23rd and 10th. Man, that chick he was with was hot. What a smoke show.

01:43:06.84
William Hernandez
Good for him.

01:43:07.16
LeeJay
god God bless America. Jeez.

01:43:08.89
William Hernandez
I guess that shows me he's... I guess that shows me he's not gay for one of the Caitlin Clark jersey.

01:43:14.36
Erik Pimentel
ah

01:43:17.53
William Hernandez
Anyway. Let's move on.

01:43:20.12
Erik Pimentel
We need to get a poor night bobblehead back there.

01:43:20.39
William Hernandez
I'm dumb talking.

01:43:23.63
LeeJay
Ah!

01:43:24.92
William Hernandez
Bro.

01:43:27.77
Erik Pimentel
you get you You get a package at your house, bro.

01:43:28.19
William Hernandez
I...

01:43:30.17
Erik Pimentel
You know who it's

01:43:30.45
William Hernandez
I will...

01:43:30.69
LeeJay
i' gonna I'm going to try to find the one of where Evan Roberts is sitting on Portnoy's shoulders.

01:43:36.73
Erik Pimentel
Next to Frank

01:43:38.21
LeeJay
I'd pay a good price for that if somebody could make that for me.

01:43:39.62
William Hernandez
Eric, I will shit andric ibble shit on your lawn if that happens.

01:43:43.57
Erik Pimentel
my God.

01:43:45.05
LeeJay
You can't.

01:43:45.32
William Hernandez
I'd tell that right now.

01:43:45.37
LeeJay
I don't have a lawn.

01:43:47.14
William Hernandez
Oh, I know. I know. Mel likes to keep those fucking floors clean. So don't tempt me. Oh, God. All right.

01:43:55.10
LeeJay
but I'll call your mom because that'll probably be your last day on earth.

01:44:03.80
Erik Pimentel
ah

01:44:05.72
William Hernandez
god all right We don't have to spend too much time on on these next few things because just thought it was something kind of fun because, you know, we we are, listen, man, I'm telling you, say what you want, whatever the off season, but I, I saw that the fucking McLean and Jonah Tong throwing in a bullpen today on SNY. And y and i'm like, I'm fucking ready.

01:44:28.59
William Hernandez
Let's fucking go. i get really excited about baseball season. So, Um, so fan grabs always does this thing at the beginning of the year where they run like a million simulations. I forget exactly what they use.

01:44:43.38
William Hernandez
Uh, but you know, they did this because the off season is essentially over as far as all the moves being made. i think they do this again, if I'm not mistaken, before the season starts in case anybody gets hurt, uh, you know, in, in spring training.

01:44:58.01
William Hernandez
So here's what, um, here's what they have for the Mets and the Yankees, which I thought was interesting. Um, they've got the Mets finishing 89 and 73, which would put them in second place by two games.

01:45:14.39
William Hernandez
And fan graphs has the Phillies going 91 and 71. So in their projections, they've got the Phillies winning the division.

01:45:25.18
William Hernandez
And in this scenario, the Mets would make the playoffs as a top wild card, uh, for the playoffs. Um, So this is where this is interesting with the AL East because, again, it's it's projection, guys. is' There's no, you know, this is just something fun.

01:45:42.77
William Hernandez
Fangrabs has the Yankees finishing in fourth place at 87 and 75. But here's the catch. They've got the AL East being a very tight race. And I'm going to read out what they have each team.

01:46:01.45
William Hernandez
finishing here. So they got the Blue Jays finished. They actually have the Blue Jays and the Red Sox finishing tied for first place. 90 and 72. Obviously you would split the difference in the season total. They've got the Orioles finishing ah only two games behind, right? 88 and 74. And then you have the Yankees at 87 and 75, and the Rays are just nowhere to be found. They got them at 75 and 87.

01:46:37.34
William Hernandez
As far as favorites to win the World Series, not surprisingly, that Dodgers are the overwhelming favorites to win the World Series according to these projections.

01:46:53.85
William Hernandez
And they have their percentage of winning players. at 18.2%. But the Mets, believe it or not, are 6.1 and have, let's see, the third best odds in the National League to win the World Series.

01:47:16.98
William Hernandez
Anyway, Eric, you weren't on the podcast last week, and I wanted to get your thoughts about, obviously you listen to the show,

01:47:25.88
William Hernandez
Is there some kind of disconnect here with how we're feeling about the Mets personally and how Vegas is feeling, how even fan graphs is feeling and how power rankings you're seeing them in the top five, eight teams. What do you make of all this ah about the Mets right now?

01:47:46.42
Erik Pimentel
I took a step back, man, because we got so emotional, you know, as Mets fans. and And, you know, with with Diaz gone and and all these changes, Alonzo, stuff like that.

01:47:59.16
Erik Pimentel
And, you know, just taking, you know, from the what they say, like the the wide view of the offseason, I think the Peralta move helped Mets fans kind of calm down a little bit.

01:48:06.36
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:48:14.08
William Hernandez
Agreed.

01:48:14.17
Erik Pimentel
um And I think that, you know, it probably shot up those those rankings after they got Peralta.

01:48:20.09
William Hernandez
Yep, I think so. Yeah.

01:48:21.34
Erik Pimentel
um So 89 wins, that that's what, like five more wins than they had last year? I think they had only 84 last year, something like that.

01:48:28.70
William Hernandez
Yeah, yep.

01:48:29.37
Erik Pimentel
um Maybe that, I mean, who knows? the the The pitching staff hopefully is better where you got McLean for a whole year, Peralta. Here's what I'll say about Peralta, though.

01:48:40.73
Erik Pimentel
Peralta, is he's an ace. But he's not the typical eight or nine inning type of ace.

01:48:44.25
William Hernandez
He is. Hmm.

01:48:48.02
Erik Pimentel
He doesn't pitch more than six innings.

01:48:48.95
LeeJay
it

01:48:50.84
Erik Pimentel
So Mets, he's another five and change guy.

01:48:51.02
LeeJay
he's ah He's another five and change guy.

01:48:54.25
Erik Pimentel
So unless the Mets are just thinking that he's going to be like a one year rental, and we're not going to resign him. And then you're going to do like what Milwaukee did back in the days of C.C. Sabathia and say, we're going to pitch you until your arm falls off because we're not going to resign you anyway.

01:49:08.38
Erik Pimentel
that type of thing, then that then this makes sense. i like he Let's see if he can step up to at least go to seven innings as opposed to just being always a five, two, and two-thirds, six-inning guy.

01:49:20.60
Erik Pimentel
So I hope he takes that step up, you know, and then we got McClain.

01:49:21.48
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:49:25.55
Erik Pimentel
But then after that, man, we're back to the the the Clay Holmes and the and the and those guys. So who knows?

01:49:35.70
Erik Pimentel
um I think the rankings... It is what it is. These rankings are always, you know, BS at the beginning of the year anyway. So who knows?

01:49:46.62
William Hernandez
Yeah, I mean, I think... And I think fangraphs traditionally... They're usually conservative in some ways in their projections. But again, again this is based off a million a million simulations that they do. I will say this. you know Outside of the Dodgers, they don't really have like that that anybody really dominating.

01:50:09.94
William Hernandez
um

01:50:10.02
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. I'll take 89 wins right now.

01:50:11.32
William Hernandez
you know Yeah, well, that's the thing.

01:50:13.00
Erik Pimentel
I'll sign up for that. Yeah.

01:50:14.10
William Hernandez
Because I'll tell you to the division winners. this Again, guys, this is just for fun. Dodgers, 96 and 66.

01:50:22.61
William Hernandez
Cubs, 87 and 75. cubs eighty seven and seventy five Phillies, Mariners, Tigers, and they actually have the tigers on the royals finishing for tide for first and then the blue jason the red sox nineteen seventy two so mean like outside of the outside of the of the dodgers There's not really anybody dominating. And I think this is so what the point that Lee J made last week was, you know, was all of this based off of this optimism from other folks?

01:50:59.13
William Hernandez
Is that based off of the fact that the National League really isn't that good overall? So, Lee J, any thoughts? You're you're not going to be here when we do our spring training episode.

01:51:10.78
William Hernandez
So you can say your piece now for you if you wish.

01:51:13.53
LeeJay
ah You kind of actually just said it for me because that's exactly what this tells me just because what's five more wins?

01:51:14.20
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:51:20.73
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:51:20.92
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

01:51:22.97
LeeJay
If you really thought that or you really felt strongly about them based on the their the actual team, there I say 92 to 95 wins, and then you blow the you blow everybody else that's behind you out of the water.

01:51:36.18
LeeJay
I think this is more of...

01:51:36.29
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:51:38.04
LeeJay
the competitive nature of the other teams and they're just garbage. You have the top couple teams and then there's a drastic drop after that.

01:51:45.89
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:51:46.01
LeeJay
So 89 is, you know, good enough to make it because so many teams make it now and that's all you need.

01:51:53.77
William Hernandez
Right. No, I am i agree. I agree. So, you know, we'll see what happens. ah We will do our spring training preview episode in a couple of weeks.

01:52:04.78
LeeJay
I'll be somewhere nice and fucking hot.

01:52:04.79
William Hernandez
So.

01:52:08.18
LeeJay
Fuck this cold shit.

01:52:11.26
Erik Pimentel
yeah Right here. Right here.

01:52:13.21
LeeJay
There we go.

01:52:13.95
William Hernandez
Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:52:14.69
LeeJay
Give me that shit so I can take it with me.

01:52:18.01
William Hernandez
eric is Eric is waving a Dominican flag. Did you have we just have this thing randomly on your desk?

01:52:23.32
Erik Pimentel
Well, we would talk were going to talk about the WBC, right?

01:52:23.45
William Hernandez
Just wait.

01:52:25.54
Erik Pimentel
So I just, you know, had to do.

01:52:26.58
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah.

01:52:30.87
William Hernandez
That's awesome. ah Yes, so speaking of a couple of sports shorts here, WBC-related situation. So apparently, Francisco Lindor is not going to play for Puerto Rico in the WBC season. There's this whole thing, I guess, which I guess is smart, right? Because there are these insurance and insurance policies associated with a lot of these guys and

01:53:02.41
William Hernandez
Lindor apparently had c very minor surgery during the offseason. And I think the Mets insurance policy prevents him from playing in the WBC.

01:53:13.53
William Hernandez
But apparently, even though it came out today, Edwin Diaz is going to play for for Puerto Rico. Apparently, it it did come out that Puerto Rico is missing some key players because of this whole situation with the insurance policies, and they are actually threatening to pull out of the WBC over it. I didn't check to see today what the what the latest thing was, but um that's kind of the story.

01:53:40.25
William Hernandez
We also learned that Juan Soto is in a play for the Dominican Republic, which... i don't know, man. Listen, and and I know LJ doesn't necessarily care about the WBC. out I...

01:53:52.98
William Hernandez
I'm of two minds of it. I kind of do like it, but I just don't want, I'm not even going to say it.

01:54:00.06
LeeJay
and don't Don't say it, please.

01:54:00.91
William Hernandez
I'm not going even say it.

01:54:01.26
Erik Pimentel
Don't say it. Please don't.

01:54:02.50
William Hernandez
I'm not even going to say it.

01:54:02.70
LeeJay
i'll say I'll say this. That number goes from 89 to 59.

01:54:06.30
Erik Pimentel
yeah

01:54:07.74
LeeJay
You guys can read between the lines if you're smart and intelligent, which I know you guys are.

01:54:09.34
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

01:54:11.93
William Hernandez
i'm not even going to say it. Yeah. I'm not even going to say it. Uh, Eric, is that why you're excited about the Dominican? Because Mr. Soto is going playing for the for team now?

01:54:22.30
Erik Pimentel
I mean, I knew i knew he was going to be playing a month ago. and did There's no surprise to me. um I think with the WBC, I'm more scared of injuries when it comes to pitchers than an everyday players.

01:54:34.55
William Hernandez
Yeah, I agree.

01:54:35.90
Erik Pimentel
Because the everyday player, you know, those guys, they come pretty much in shape, you know, whole God forbid they, maybe they pull a hamstring or something like that. But the arm issues is where you run into trouble when it comes to ah stuff like this.

01:54:51.45
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah.

01:54:51.96
Erik Pimentel
the pitchers I'm always more concerned about than than anything.

01:54:54.66
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:54:55.27
Erik Pimentel
But yeah, I mean, again, you know, I like the WBC again, you know, i like watching the games and stuff like that. So i'm I'm looking forward to seeing it, but it is what it is.

01:55:06.10
Erik Pimentel
I know, you know, three years ago, wasn't too great when Diaz got hurt. So, yeah.

01:55:09.72
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah. I think the thing with the pitchers that that that's the reason why they have the limits in place.

01:55:15.04
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

01:55:15.03
William Hernandez
You can't, throw Depending on the round, you can't throw more than X amount of pitches, um you know, for a starter or any pitcher. So I think it's like capped at 40 in the opening rounds, and then it goes up to like, yeah, yeah.

01:55:26.78
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, 45 and then it goes up to 60 or something like that.

01:55:30.47
William Hernandez
So, I mean, there are there are um you know there are protocols in place, but, you know, we'll see.

01:55:30.55
Erik Pimentel
yeah

01:55:36.52
William Hernandez
I mean, I'm curious. I'm curious to see how somebody like Nolan McLean is going to do, you know, in the WBC. So um I am curious about that. um Okay, this last thing, which I think kind of surprised us, but maybe not.

01:55:54.94
William Hernandez
They have the final NFL attendance figures. And and the funny thing is, is that the quote-unquote New York teams were four, five, and six of the 30 teams in the NFL.

01:56:09.05
William Hernandez
The Jets finished fourth. At 660,246. Giants finished fifth at And

01:56:24.25
William Hernandez
and as crazy as it sounds they did they both did better than the bills who were six at six hundred and nine six hundred six hundred and thirty seven thousand eight ninety six listen this is for tickets sold right It doesn't necessarily represent represent the attendance. but And I said this to these guys and in the um and the thread that we have.

01:56:50.04
William Hernandez
What is the incentive? And this goes for any NFL team. Look at the Cowboys, right? they were They're always number one. That stadium is fucking huge down there. What is the incentive for an NFL team to improve the team if you know...

01:57:08.79
William Hernandez
People are buying tickets at this clip at the beginning of the year. And granted, secondary market, Eric, you made the point. A lot of these, look, well when I went to that Vikings-Giants game, There were, yeah, there were a shit ton of Vikings fans.

01:57:18.82
Erik Pimentel
That's what I was going to ask you.

01:57:23.22
William Hernandez
So much so that they were booing the Vikings off the field in that game at halftime as they were coming through the tunnel. Booing them off the field. That's how many fucking Vikings fans were in the tunnels. Listen, it is what it is, but like, and listen, the Giants are doing what they did with Harbaugh. But, you know, there's always been questions about the way Woody Johnson runs things.

01:57:43.90
William Hernandez
But the Jets, it's like, well, why should he improve the Jets if fucking they're fourth in the league in attendance? Anyway, Lee J, any thoughts on this whole situation?

01:57:53.98
LeeJay
i I still blame the dopey fans. You're stupid.

01:57:56.63
William Hernandez
Well, yeah, that's...

01:57:57.40
LeeJay
i gave up I gave up my tickets a long time ago when I saw the product not improving.

01:57:57.52
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:58:01.20
LeeJay
Why do I say that? They always give you that phone call, that email. Do you want to resubmit your season ticket package? No, go F yourself. They'll harass you for a few months until they get the picture.

01:58:14.07
LeeJay
Number two, where did the secondary tickets come from?

01:58:18.52
William Hernandez
What do you mean?

01:58:19.38
LeeJay
who so Who sells them? Who sells them on the secondary market?

01:58:21.66
William Hernandez
yeah. it's up

01:58:22.44
Erik Pimentel
season ticket holders.

01:58:23.07
William Hernandez
It's these ticket holders. Yeah,

01:58:24.95
LeeJay
There you go. So you're just like the owner in some aspects. Because when it comes to money, you're trying to get your money back, just like they're trying to get their money.

01:58:32.78
William Hernandez
Right.

01:58:32.80
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

01:58:32.98
LeeJay
So if that's the case, if you like the team so bad, you F them, I don't want nobody at the game. So don't take the money. Eat the ticket. You ain't going to do that, right?

01:58:40.79
William Hernandez
Right, yeah.

01:58:42.55
LeeJay
To me, a lot of this falls in the lap of dopey fans. Because owners, like I told you all before, are going to do what the hell they want, no matter who's sitting in those seats. They don't care.

01:58:52.15
William Hernandez
Yeah, it's true.

01:58:52.76
LeeJay
They don't care. You keep on spending money on shitty products and keep on renewing your season ticket. Oh, but they've been in my family for 40 years. No one cares. The person that probably bought that season ticket package is dead.

01:59:02.33
William Hernandez
Ha ha ha ha

01:59:04.26
LeeJay
It's dead.

01:59:06.65
Erik Pimentel
You inherited that.

01:59:06.90
LeeJay
And the team has sucked for four years and you want to inherit that shit? You should move on because your dead uncle or whoever it is, don't care because they're no longer here. Okay? So, listen, I did it.

01:59:20.60
LeeJay
I have the power of the remote control system. On, off, change the channel.

01:59:22.74
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah. Yeah.

01:59:25.48
LeeJay
I'm not going to get aggravated anymore. Will knows how I used to be. I try to give every excuse to my teams, no matter if they were shitty or good. I'm not doing that anymore. You're terrible. I turn it off. I put something else on. i go outside.

01:59:38.74
LeeJay
But I'm not going to take my Puerto Rican ass on that Amtrak and trek to MetLife Dumpy Stadium. Not doing it.

01:59:47.83
Erik Pimentel
Go to Home Goods with Mel.

01:59:50.25
LeeJay
i'd rather I'd rather go to Home Goods with Mel. 100%. Matter of fact, we'll probably be there this weekend.

01:59:53.72
William Hernandez
Liji would rather gowell leisi would rather to go to a fucking museum than a...

01:59:58.33
LeeJay
i rather go to That's facts. I'd rather go to a museum and read about Edgar Allen Poe.

01:59:59.86
William Hernandez
Well, we're going to the College Football Hall of Fame, so there you go. No. No. Let's go to MLK Museum.

02:00:06.04
Erik Pimentel
I got to look up museums here in Atlanta.

02:00:08.06
LeeJay
Okay?

02:00:08.57
Erik Pimentel
sure

02:00:10.23
LeeJay
Christ.

02:00:10.58
William Hernandez
and a cow rile hall of fame so there you go

02:00:12.66
LeeJay
Yeah, that's enough of am museum for me because that's sports related. Don't take me to no fucking... I was going to say something that might get me in trouble, so I chilled.

02:00:18.71
Erik Pimentel
yeah

02:00:19.70
William Hernandez
now no let's go let's go to mlk museum

02:00:23.13
Erik Pimentel
Oh, shit.

02:00:25.78
William Hernandez
Yup. Yup.

02:00:26.40
LeeJay
I'm not doing it. Let's move on. Eric, your opinion?

02:00:34.00
Erik Pimentel
man. Yeah, I mean, he he Lee J brought up some good points. It's almost like, and Lee J don't know what I'm talking about, the MSG factor, how the Knicks had shitty teams for years and years, and that stated that that arena was sold out every night.

02:00:47.29
William Hernandez
yeah

02:00:50.84
LeeJay
Every night.

02:00:52.06
Erik Pimentel
with us winning only 22 games a a season. So also it's great.

02:00:56.38
William Hernandez
That's insane. That's insane.

02:00:57.18
Erik Pimentel
yeah So that factor, that factors in, I mean, a little bit on the Giants jet side, but it's like the secondary market is like, you sell season tickets, Evan Roberts, you, you listen, Lee J. He has season tickets to the Knicks.

02:01:12.58
Erik Pimentel
He's not a Knick fan.

02:01:14.09
William Hernandez
What an idiot.

02:01:14.12
LeeJay
Nope.

02:01:14.14
Erik Pimentel
Yes. chris He has a TCS to the Nets jets.

02:01:14.40
William Hernandez
here

02:01:15.20
LeeJay
Nets.

02:01:15.22
William Hernandez
Fucking idiot.

02:01:17.55
Erik Pimentel
Now,

02:01:17.54
LeeJay
Jets.

02:01:18.78
Erik Pimentel
And when he can't go, he's like, he sold, I think he didn't go to the LeBron game last night and he made his money.

02:01:24.81
LeeJay
probably made a pretty penny. He probably made a pretty penny for it.

02:01:25.98
Erik Pimentel
He, he made money. Yeah. So a lot of that, the secondary market has to go with you selling those tickets, you know, to those people. And it is what it is That's why when I saw those numbers, I said, no, this, this is, it's for Gazy numbers, but it is what it is.

02:01:41.62
William Hernandez
Yeah, well, it's sick it's sick and soul. I mean, it's sick and soul.

02:01:43.51
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. It's sold. Yeah.

02:01:44.66
William Hernandez
You know, that's when it comes down.

02:01:44.83
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:01:46.22
William Hernandez
God, I fucking, you guys telling me this shit about it. God, fucking, I can't stand that fucking, that guy. Golly, bro.

02:01:53.46
LeeJay
I'm telling you di yo it you, Eric, do you hear this passion of rage? You would think one of these guys slept with Will's mom.

02:01:58.07
William Hernandez
Fucking shit. You know what?

02:02:04.32
William Hernandez
No, you know why?

02:02:04.54
Erik Pimentel
okay

02:02:05.14
William Hernandez
Here's the thing.

02:02:05.90
LeeJay
Holy shit.

02:02:06.91
William Hernandez
Here's the thing. You know why I get so aggravated with these guys? Evan Roberts and fucking Portnoy and fucking...

02:02:15.16
LeeJay
Nick Swisher.

02:02:16.06
William Hernandez
ah No. No, no, no, no, no. With Sal Licata and what was the other the idiot's name?

02:02:22.07
Erik Pimentel
Um... um

02:02:23.75
William Hernandez
All the bald-headed idiot.

02:02:24.99
LeeJay
Brandon Tierney.

02:02:25.82
William Hernandez
Yeah. i Here's the thing. I get aggravated because i when I see the clips on on social media and I hear their opinions...

02:02:36.25
William Hernandez
And I'm like, we have better opinions than them, but they get the attention. You know what I mean? So I think i'm look I look at it from from that perspective, especially somebody like Evan Roberts, who I think is a fucking moron, who says the dumbest shit.

02:02:48.41
LeeJay
To be to be fair to be i want to be fair.

02:02:52.57
William Hernandez
Okay. Okay.

02:02:54.78
LeeJay
as geeky and stuff and he's has whatever, he's knowledgeable about a lot of stuff, especially baseball. it may not come across that way, but he is, in my opinion, he knows a lot of shit that I'm like from like 1986.

02:03:08.21
LeeJay
He'll know exact innings and shit like that. To me, that's, that's, you know, fascinating to me.

02:03:14.14
William Hernandez
Yeah, but that's not that's not knowledge about like strategy and shit like that.

02:03:17.18
LeeJay
No, he has he has strategy too.

02:03:17.85
William Hernandez
you know?

02:03:18.94
LeeJay
It all relates. It all relates when he brings it together. And if you listen to him, you would you would you would understand what I'm saying about him.

02:03:21.94
William Hernandez
Hmm.

02:03:22.07
Erik Pimentel
Listen,

02:03:26.03
Erik Pimentel
he's been on the air till since he was 18.

02:03:26.07
LeeJay
The other guys...

02:03:28.19
Erik Pimentel
So he's doing something right. Yeah.

02:03:30.35
LeeJay
That's true too. the hit my My thing with the... And real quick, because I don't mean to talk about this. The other guys you mentioned, and I think Eric could agree with me, what I don't like about them... is they scream and they holler and they do this and the Knicks and the Knicks that, especially with the Knicks.

02:03:42.62
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:03:48.41
LeeJay
And then when the Knicks do exactly what they didn't say, no one has anything to say.

02:03:53.29
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:03:54.36
LeeJay
I want you to still keep your same opinion opinion with the same energy when they win, to my opinion, which was, yo, we got to just wait this out. They just hit to hit a little, they hit a hole in the wall. You know what I'm saying? They got they hit a little wall.

02:04:06.66
LeeJay
Everything's going to be good if they start doing X, Y, and Z. The sky's falling if they lose three in a row. Catch this. This is that. And then everyone, I'm telling you today, radio silence about the Knicks.

02:04:21.08
LeeJay
Nothing. Last week it was trade everybody. That's the only thing I don't like about these particular guys.

02:04:25.57
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:04:30.13
Erik Pimentel
Agree.

02:04:31.00
William Hernandez
It's fair.

02:04:33.70
William Hernandez
Evan's still an idiot. But anyway, I got great pleasure in Alonzo putting him in his place during spring training.

02:04:39.53
LeeJay
Oh, actually, um damn, I wanted to say something I forgot. I wanted to stick up for him last week because you saw a clip of him

02:04:49.98
LeeJay
blaming the weather for the Denver.

02:04:52.50
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:04:53.34
LeeJay
I actually listened to that episode.

02:04:53.44
William Hernandez
Yep.

02:04:54.58
LeeJay
He didn't. They cut it the wrong way. And that's the problem with when you do only clips.

02:04:58.62
William Hernandez
Well, that's, yeah.

02:04:58.71
LeeJay
he was on other he was on the other side of He was on the other side of it.

02:04:59.01
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

02:04:59.93
William Hernandez
Well, Well, they should have never...

02:05:02.01
LeeJay
and when he was talking He was talking for the other person and then he was actually ripping them. And then he said his opinion, which they didn't put together in the clip.

02:05:10.94
William Hernandez
See, that's see that's the that's that's on WFAN for clipping that the wrong way.

02:05:15.29
LeeJay
No, correct.

02:05:15.29
William Hernandez
you know They got to give context.

02:05:15.93
LeeJay
That's his, that's, that's their fault.

02:05:16.57
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:05:17.49
LeeJay
That's not his fault.

02:05:17.78
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fair. That's a fair point.

02:05:21.02
Erik Pimentel
I, it's funny. I thought, ah I thought of Will cause I was listening the other day and they, some dude, Evan Roberts said that he, he doesn't like saying no to people.

02:05:32.25
Erik Pimentel
So like when people email him or call him and tell him, you know, be on my podcast, be on my show and he does it, he'll do it.

02:05:37.24
LeeJay
Yes, yes, he'll do it.

02:05:39.28
Erik Pimentel
so I'm like, let's get Will email.

02:05:42.16
William Hernandez
Get the fuck out of here. You guys can suck my ass.

02:05:45.71
LeeJay
Hey, yo.

02:05:45.98
William Hernandez
Um...

02:05:50.45
Erik Pimentel
Oh, man.

02:05:51.79
William Hernandez
Guys, for anybody who listens to this and is not in the New York area, just go follow WFAN on Instagram, and you let me know how, you know, if I'm just way off base, I'm up this guy. Anyway, all right.

02:06:05.34
William Hernandez
Mount Rushmore. Of course, it's Super Bowl related, because why wouldn't it be? This is, you know, it's it's tough to find. Listen, guys, Mount Rushmore is tough to do to begin with, to find a topic for every week, but we we've done it almost every week.

02:06:21.24
William Hernandez
um but through 87 episodes. So, um, at least you had the idea to do a Mount Rushmore of the best Superbowl games that you have seen.

02:06:32.70
William Hernandez
And pretty sure that this, simple this list, at least for myself and Eric, it's going to be similar, at least with two of them. But that's fine.

02:06:43.32
William Hernandez
ah Let's go around the horn. i had to do some some some studying earlier today about some games that I had in mind, but I couldn't remember some of the key points. Let's go to Lee Jay first, which you're number four on the list. so We'll go 4, 4, 4, 3, 3, 3, whatever. Do it that way

02:07:03.86
LeeJay
uh my number four is february 3rd 2013 in new orleans the brother bowl and the blackout

02:07:11.19
William Hernandez
That is on my list as well. That's on my list.

02:07:14.76
LeeJay
baltimore san francisco where uh baltimore beat san francisco john beat jim what was it 34 to 31 i can't remember i forgot to yep yep yep um

02:07:22.50
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm. 44 to 31. Yep, I have it up here. Yep, I have it up.

02:07:27.74
LeeJay
i like to go to I like to go to games, even if you don't really remember the game in particularly. you I mean, you do, but to me, the first things that are in front of my head are their brothers and the blackout.

02:07:38.62
William Hernandez
Yep. And the blackout. Right. Yeah.

02:07:41.56
LeeJay
like

02:07:42.33
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:07:42.68
LeeJay
Which is why this this was like automatic for me. i was like, it's not high.

02:07:47.28
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:07:47.40
LeeJay
It's on there for me because it was actually a good game too.

02:07:50.10
William Hernandez
Yeah, it was. Right.

02:07:51.13
LeeJay
But I'm going to put it, and that's why I put it just at number four.

02:07:53.98
William Hernandez
Yeah. I'll speak to it when we get to it on my thing. But i have I have an interesting story behind.

02:07:59.32
LeeJay
And then, you know, you had the, you know, Colin Kaepernick had a good game.

02:08:00.09
William Hernandez
yeah

02:08:01.85
LeeJay
He wound up taking over for, I think, Alex Smith because he wound up getting hurt, if I'm not mistaken.

02:08:05.40
William Hernandez
Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

02:08:07.14
LeeJay
I'm trying to remember who that was.

02:08:07.34
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:08:09.38
LeeJay
Was it Flacco? It was Flacco, right? Was Flacco the quarterback for the Ravens?

02:08:13.50
William Hernandez
I believe so.

02:08:15.18
LeeJay
I can't remember.

02:08:15.38
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, it was Flacco.

02:08:16.63
LeeJay
It was, right?

02:08:17.65
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. They actually showed that on on n on NFL Network over the weekend.

02:08:22.40
LeeJay
Oh, really? Hmm.

02:08:23.29
Erik Pimentel
That and Super Bowl XLVI with the Giants.

02:08:25.43
William Hernandez
Yeah, they're starting to show the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. the re They were showing um the other day i was watching.

02:08:27.74
LeeJay
Oh yeah, that all, okay, I see, I see, I see. So they start they're gonna start showing the Super Bowls.

02:08:32.53
William Hernandez
I was on the elliptical and they were showing the Rams Titans with the one yard short, the short game. Remember that?

02:08:38.90
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:08:39.38
William Hernandez
Yeah. The greatest show on turf. ah Yeah. ah

02:08:43.04
LeeJay
I was watching a 2026 Giants versus Jets and then I woke up.

02:08:50.55
Erik Pimentel
but That's going to happen here in Atlanta in a couple of years, bro.

02:08:55.83
William Hernandez
Bro, the get-in price I saw, the cheapest ticket I saw for something is like five grand. Yeah. Anyway, Eric, you're number four.

02:09:05.16
LeeJay
Oh, real quick. real

02:09:06.07
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah.

02:09:06.68
LeeJay
About what you just said, remind me, once we're done with this, I want to ask a question before we get out of here.

02:09:10.82
William Hernandez
About what? Super Bowl tickets?

02:09:12.98
LeeJay
Just before out here, I want to ask a question.

02:09:14.90
William Hernandez
Okay.

02:09:15.13
LeeJay
All right, go ahead go ahead, Eric.

02:09:15.33
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:09:16.76
Erik Pimentel
um So with this this was kind of kind of hard because if you think about it, unless your team is in the Super Bowl and you're probably at a Super Bowl party, you're not paying much attention to the Super Bowl.

02:09:29.88
Erik Pimentel
So some of these games, they might be great and you're just not like not really paying attention unless you got money on the game and stuff like that. So I have... I'm going to, I'm going to, this was originally my honorable mention, but I'm going to put it at four and I'm going to take out my four.

02:09:44.25
LeeJay
Excuse me.

02:09:46.57
Erik Pimentel
So my, my number four is Superbowl 51. It's a local one with the Patriots giant Patriots Falcons over here and the, the comeback.

02:09:53.65
William Hernandez
We have Falcons. Yes. Yes.

02:09:54.72
LeeJay
Because Falcons, the comeback, right?

02:09:57.02
William Hernandez
ah yeah.

02:09:57.57
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:09:57.82
William Hernandez
That's what I have that on my list as well.

02:09:58.74
Erik Pimentel
the So the the reason, the reason is because I remember it was, my father was, was living here with us. um and he was he watched the Super Bowl with me. My father has no idea about football. He's all about baseball.

02:10:12.95
Erik Pimentel
But, you know, and i'm I'm explaining to him a little bit as the game's going on. All he saw was the Falcons were winning 28-3, and he was like, this game's over. Atlanta's winning. And people over here going nuts and stuff like that. And then the comeback.

02:10:27.80
Erik Pimentel
Slowly, comeback. My father's like, what the hell is going on here?

02:10:29.62
William Hernandez
Jesus.

02:10:31.61
Erik Pimentel
I remember...

02:10:31.78
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:10:33.21
LeeJay
You know, that's interesting because basic sports, you just know the score and you know something's over or it's not over.

02:10:36.47
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah.

02:10:36.90
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. yeah

02:10:38.87
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. yeah So, you know, and the the the crazy comeback, you know, the over here. I mean, that year, Falcons fans were all over the place.

02:10:49.37
Erik Pimentel
And then to see them lose that game, that was it was crazy to see that.

02:10:55.35
William Hernandez
Yeah, that's insane. that's that's It's funny because ah my list has two of the like two of the games you guys just picked, but i i I've got some, and I don't know, commentary or whatnot. My number four, it's the second Patriots Giants Super Bowl.

02:11:08.60
William Hernandez
The one in 2012 they won

02:11:15.10
Erik Pimentel
46 Super Bowers.

02:11:15.32
William Hernandez
ah Yeah, 46. So the interesting thing about this one for me, the why the the reason why it sticks out the most is I had just moved to the Boston area.

02:11:26.78
William Hernandez
That weekend or the week leading up into because I had a new i got a new job. So I started i was living in Chicago. I worked in Chicago for January. And then I said told him I will be in Boston by February 1st. And I did that.

02:11:41.58
William Hernandez
Here's the problem. I didn't have any cable hooked up yet because I was that's how that's how new it was. I told myself, there is no fucking way I'm going out to a bar in Massachusetts to watch this game.

02:11:55.74
William Hernandez
So what did I do? I didn't have a car at the time. I rented a car, drove my ass down to Brooklyn on Saturday night, watched the game with my family on Sunday, and drove back to fucking Massachusetts on Saturday.

02:12:12.44
William Hernandez
the Sunday night after the Super Bowl. Listening to WF again the whole time, fucking giving a high five to the guy at the fucking toll booth when I was going over. I forget where Bridget was. Um...

02:12:26.04
William Hernandez
whatever connects to I-95. Because he had his Giants hat on, he was listening to the game, and this is when, you know, before easy pass was still a thing, so... And then the next day going to work, wearing my Giants hat, all these fucking Patriots fans looking all sad.

02:12:42.46
William Hernandez
that was a That was a great thing. So that ah that's the reason why that one sticks out in particular for me. Plus, it was a great game. I mean, it came down to the to the end there, and Brady on the on the final drive, so...

02:12:55.99
William Hernandez
So yeah, that's my number four. LeeJ, you're number three.

02:13:00.63
LeeJay
I'm just realizing something right now to all my picks. don't know what this says, but the most recent one for me was the one I said, which was my number four, which was 2013. Everything after that is way older.

02:13:09.58
William Hernandez
Oh, really? Interesting.

02:13:10.39
LeeJay
Yeah.

02:13:10.61
William Hernandez
I got more recent ones.

02:13:10.83
LeeJay
Nothing recent. um My number three is going to be um January 27th, 1991, Superbowl 25.

02:13:12.63
William Hernandez
Well, we'll get it.

02:13:17.10
LeeJay
Giants beat the bills 2019 wide, right? The wide,

02:13:19.32
William Hernandez
Jesus Christ.

02:13:20.12
Erik Pimentel
See, so you so that that was my five and four that I was my honorable mention.

02:13:24.28
LeeJay
gines beat the bills twenty nineteen wide right the wide right game.

02:13:26.70
William Hernandez
Mm. Yep.

02:13:28.15
LeeJay
and the The one play I remember from that game, not being a Giants fan, but I actually do like him a lot. That's Otis Anderson.

02:13:36.12
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah.

02:13:36.28
LeeJay
That guy was a monster.

02:13:37.94
William Hernandez
He won the MVP. Yeah. Yeah.

02:13:39.22
LeeJay
That guy was a bro. He couldn't be tackled. He was a he was a beast.

02:13:42.55
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:13:44.92
LeeJay
And, you know, the Bills didn't have no no plays on that defense to snooze at, you know.

02:13:50.80
Erik Pimentel
Cornelius Bennett was a monster.

02:13:51.29
LeeJay
um Darryl Talley, Bruce Smith.

02:13:54.11
Erik Pimentel
Darryl Talley, Bruce Smith.

02:13:55.58
LeeJay
it was it was great They had a good deep, but you know it was a close game.

02:13:57.46
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:13:59.06
LeeJay
And now as we know, Scott, nor would the what the ride white ride wide right field goal. um That was, i don't know. Teams aside, it was just it was a great game. I enjoyed it.

02:14:11.32
William Hernandez
The thing I remember from that, and again, my memory is very fuzzy from from back then. It's fuzzy now. But anyway, even fuzzier from back when. but I just remember, I don't think people gave the Giants a chance because a Jeff Hostetler was the quarterback ah for that Super Bowl.

02:14:25.71
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:14:27.30
William Hernandez
It wasn't Phil Simms because don't forget, Simms got hurt ah that season. So that was like ah that was like the one thing I remember from um for that Super Bowl in particular.

02:14:37.51
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:14:38.14
Erik Pimentel
A couple of things I remember from that game is obviously the Scott and Oldwood wide right. oh I remember, you know, going back, we're talking about Bill Belichick being a hall of famer, that, that defensive plan that he put, like,

02:14:49.50
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:14:50.67
LeeJay
Yeah, with DC, yep.

02:14:52.02
Erik Pimentel
He just, he just they did he I mean, and looking back at the films and stuff, like he said, the plan was to just let Thurman Thomas do what he wants. We're going stop the pass. And it ended up working.

02:15:03.54
Erik Pimentel
And then the third thing that I remember is the national anthem, Whitney Houston, national anthem.

02:15:07.47
William Hernandez
Oh yeah. With the Houston, right. Cause we were in the Gulf war at that time.

02:15:08.86
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yep.

02:15:10.55
William Hernandez
So it's a big deal.

02:15:10.58
LeeJay
Yep, the Gulf War, yep.

02:15:10.81
Erik Pimentel
Yep.

02:15:12.06
William Hernandez
Um,

02:15:12.30
Erik Pimentel
Yep.

02:15:14.29
William Hernandez
God, we're old. ah Eric, number three.

02:15:17.66
Erik Pimentel
My number three was Super Bowl XLIII, Pittsburgh, Arizona.

02:15:23.20
William Hernandez
Oh, 27-23 Steelers in that game.

02:15:24.73
LeeJay
Oh, the look the the the catch in the corner with Santonio.

02:15:25.30
Erik Pimentel
Yes. The catch in a corner, Santonio Holmes, 35 seconds left.

02:15:30.30
William Hernandez
and er one That was a really good one.

02:15:31.70
Erik Pimentel
The James Harrison 100-yard return for a touchdown, which cost me like three grand at a football pool.

02:15:31.86
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:15:37.11
Erik Pimentel
ah and i wish it

02:15:37.66
LeeJay
people still People still debate whether his his feet were down or should I say he's...

02:15:42.52
Erik Pimentel
I wish it wasn't down.

02:15:42.74
LeeJay
ah Yeah, people with people still say to this day, if you really look, it didn't touch he didn't touch with the second one.

02:15:43.98
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:15:46.74
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah, that that was that was a crazy. I remember rooting for Arizona for some reason in that game. i don't know why. um but But yeah, that was that was just two plays in particular.

02:15:59.26
Erik Pimentel
And I remember that Super Bowl being really good. So I put that in.

02:16:01.85
LeeJay
Was Kurt Warner that was that Kurt Warner?

02:16:03.38
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yep. Kurt Warner.

02:16:05.82
LeeJay
Yep.

02:16:06.20
Erik Pimentel
Larry Fitzgerald.

02:16:07.83
LeeJay
Yep.

02:16:08.84
Erik Pimentel
That's my number three.

02:16:11.83
William Hernandez
Yeah, it's crazy that Kurt Warner played in two pretty iconic Super Bowls.

02:16:15.45
LeeJay
I think they, I think it was more so probably because they didn't think he was going to, his chance was over already with St. Louis.

02:16:20.73
William Hernandez
Yeah, right.

02:16:20.77
LeeJay
He won. That was it.

02:16:21.57
William Hernandez
Yeah, right.

02:16:22.33
LeeJay
They gave them no chance.

02:16:22.61
Erik Pimentel
And I remember that' that's after the giant that's after the Giants cut him.

02:16:23.29
LeeJay
I don't think me.

02:16:24.22
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:16:24.76
LeeJay
I can remember. Right. And that was after the Giants, right? He went to them after the Giants, which they definitely thought, whatever, he's washed, whatever they probably had, whatever their opinion was.

02:16:28.63
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yep.

02:16:34.03
LeeJay
And then that's probably why, too, you were going for him, which I could see that.

02:16:37.61
Erik Pimentel
Probably. Yeah.

02:16:40.66
William Hernandez
So my number three is one that Lee J. already mentioned. It was the brother bowl, the hardball bowl, and the outage. The biggest thing I remember... It's a great game, right? I mean, that's kind of like the the one thing. But I'm looking at this stuff from like the things I remember. And obviously the blackout because it's never happened before, right? And I remember I was out watching... I was living in Boston at the time. I was out watching the game with a friend of mine who... She like she knew... She was a big NBA but she wasn't really like too in tune with Bulls fans, right? She was from Chicago. But she wasn't too in tune with like the NFL.

02:17:17.82
William Hernandez
And I just remember her asking me like... asking me what happens if the lights don't come back on? And I'm like, I really don't know. Like, I don't know. what Nobody knew what was going to happen. And the thing was that that game was like, you they were like two halftimes in a way because you had the regular halftime. And then I forget how long that delay was, but it was pretty long.

02:17:38.62
William Hernandez
You know, as they were trying to figure out, um you know, what was going to happen.

02:17:41.24
Erik Pimentel
What year was that Super Bowl?

02:17:43.54
William Hernandez
That was in 2013. Yeah. Yeah. the fact yeah The fact that that game was so good in the aftermath of having two large breaks the way they did, I think that says a lot about the two teams are ruined that that were in that year. So that is my my number three.

02:18:05.17
William Hernandez
LeeJ, you're number two.

02:18:08.31
LeeJay
The blackout lasted 34 minutes.

02:18:10.81
William Hernandez
Wow. So that's about as as as long as the halftime show is, which is about a half an hour.

02:18:15.01
LeeJay
Cores was a a device installed to prevent power issues failed, causing a partial power outage.

02:18:21.56
William Hernandez
There you go.

02:18:23.26
LeeJay
Yep, there you go for that.

02:18:23.29
William Hernandez
Interesting.

02:18:24.50
LeeJay
My number two, ah January 25th, 1998.

02:18:30.29
William Hernandez
Jesus, bro.

02:18:31.58
LeeJay
My boy, my favorite quarterback of all time, wins his first Super Bowl, John Elway.

02:18:32.73
Erik Pimentel
Denver.

02:18:35.98
LeeJay
They div defeat Green Bay Packers thirty one

02:18:36.56
Erik Pimentel
That

02:18:38.87
LeeJay
to twenty four um That game was held in San Francisco.

02:18:41.68
Erik Pimentel
was a good one.

02:18:42.98
LeeJay
That was the iconic twirl when he jumped into the end zone and he got and he twirled around.

02:18:46.58
William Hernandez
Oh, when he got hit.

02:18:46.74
Erik Pimentel
Helicopter.

02:18:47.54
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:18:49.82
LeeJay
Yeah, so ah yeah, that's my number two.

02:18:54.01
Erik Pimentel
was a good one. My number two is Super Bowl XLVI. Will mentioned it earlier. The Giants taking down the Patriots once again. i went to that parade.

02:19:06.26
Erik Pimentel
um i went to

02:19:07.01
William Hernandez
Oh, did you really?

02:19:07.90
Erik Pimentel
i went to both parades, actually.

02:19:09.59
William Hernandez
oh shit.

02:19:09.69
Erik Pimentel
um

02:19:09.91
William Hernandez
That's awesome.

02:19:10.42
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. um And... You know, just, Lee J mentioned it earlier, that Mario Manningham catch, that throw by Eli, you know, and I, because the highlights were on NFL films, NFL Network the other day, I watched it back and I'm like, how the hell did he make that pass?

02:19:29.28
Erik Pimentel
It's ridiculous.

02:19:29.53
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:19:30.81
Erik Pimentel
Ridiculous. Also, I remember Ahmed, Ahmad Bradshaw trying not to score.

02:19:35.15
William Hernandez
Right.

02:19:35.51
Erik Pimentel
yeah And he ended up scoring anyway.

02:19:35.91
William Hernandez
Yes. That's right.

02:19:38.55
LeeJay
Oh, yeah.

02:19:38.78
Erik Pimentel
um Yeah, yeah.

02:19:38.90
William Hernandez
That's right.

02:19:39.74
LeeJay
He like fell forward.

02:19:39.96
William Hernandez
yeah Yeah. Yeah.

02:19:42.39
Erik Pimentel
um Yeah, that was that was a ah miracle one. Obviously, the second one, taking them down again, that was that's my number two.

02:19:55.32
William Hernandez
Um, I'm going to call audible here and I'm going switch out my number two because I originally had it as the, the, the um,

02:20:02.03
LeeJay
Omaha.

02:20:03.19
William Hernandez
Yeah, Omaha. ah The Falcons won. Because that 28-3 thing became a meme. You know? Like... That's like one of the biggest things. But I'll give a shout-out to the first meeting between the Pats and the Seahawks when um they should have fucking ran the Beast.

02:20:21.40
William Hernandez
in Marshawn Lynch and they pass the ball and Russell Wilson got intercepted by ah Malcolm Butler there at the goal line. So, I mean, listen, people still talk about it 11 years later, what they should have done in that situation.

02:20:35.94
William Hernandez
And, you know, oh, was it really?

02:20:36.42
LeeJay
That's one of the hot topics today, even though... Yeah, they're talking about it today. Yeah, they talk about it today.

02:20:41.14
William Hernandez
Interesting.

02:20:41.74
LeeJay
Not not necessarily. I'm just saying in general, they talk you hear it talk being talked about today.

02:20:44.60
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They still talk. Yeah, gay yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder what the analytics said about that situation there. um So that's my number two. LeeJay, you're number one.

02:20:57.46
LeeJay
All right, my number one. And the reason I got picked this, because right around this time is probably when I first started going getting into football. Nobody in my family was really into football. And before I decided to find some follow some dopey man and become a Jets fan, I was a low key Cincinnati Bengals fan.

02:21:13.56
Erik Pimentel
I know which.

02:21:16.54
LeeJay
And I loved Boomer Esiason.

02:21:16.85
William Hernandez
Yes, I remember you mentioning this. Right, yes, yes.

02:21:18.55
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:21:18.83
LeeJay
I've said this before.

02:21:19.93
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:21:20.06
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:21:20.21
LeeJay
I love Boomer Esiason, lefty, different. I like the uniforms. So it's January 22nd, 1999, when, ah you know, San Francisco went on that long drive and they wound up beating them.

02:21:29.23
Erik Pimentel
89. No.

02:21:32.98
LeeJay
Um, beating the Bengals 20 to 16, I believe the score was.

02:21:34.94
William Hernandez
Was that the...

02:21:37.98
William Hernandez
Is that the Dwight Clark game or that come in the NFC Championship?

02:21:39.96
LeeJay
No, no, that wasn't Dwight Clark. No, no, no.

02:21:41.24
Erik Pimentel
No, no.

02:21:41.56
LeeJay
This was, I think, Super Bowl 23.

02:21:41.66
William Hernandez
Okay. Okay.

02:21:44.31
LeeJay
Yeah, that wasn't Dwight Clark. That wasn't the Dwight Clark. And ah yeah, I think it was like 90-something yard drive. i don't remember exactly how. i Essentially, I think he went from one end zone to the other. And I mean, that's him.

02:21:53.78
William Hernandez
Right, yeah, I vaguely remember that.

02:21:58.73
LeeJay
I mean, the 49's offense was wild.

02:22:03.54
Erik Pimentel
yeah

02:22:03.91
LeeJay
So I'm even surprised that the score was that low. But yeah, he drove them down there and they won the game. I want to say it was John, it was John, John Taylor that caught the winning catch.

02:22:11.93
Erik Pimentel
it finished John Taylor. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny you mention that because that's the first Super Bowl memory I remember.

02:22:22.71
Erik Pimentel
And I remember, it's funny, similar to Lee J.

02:22:23.00
William Hernandez
Mmm. Mmm.

02:22:25.82
Erik Pimentel
I liked Cincinnati, Boomer, you know, I think I talked about this. ah Boomer was it just a cool name. liked their uniforms. And I remember that Super Bowl for a specific reason.

02:22:36.44
Erik Pimentel
And it's crazy because my mother, she had a salon, a hair salon appointment around that time. And guess who she wanted to drag to that salon appointment?

02:22:45.91
LeeJay
oh man not today mom

02:22:46.20
Erik Pimentel
who

02:22:46.34
William Hernandez
Mmm.

02:22:48.81
Erik Pimentel
Well, I had to go. i was nine years old or whatever I was. So it's my my the part the appointment to the salon, it wasn't at the salon. It was at the the hairdresser's house.

02:23:00.73
LeeJay
house that's how that's how they did it back in the days

02:23:02.45
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. So in the kitchen, she had a little freaking 13-inch TV. And I remember watching the Super Bowl there while my mother's getting her hair done.

02:23:11.08
William Hernandez
That's hilarious to me.

02:23:12.63
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

02:23:13.38
William Hernandez
That's fucking hilarious. ah Legion, have a quick question. Did Jonathan become a Jets fan because of this, the bad man or because of you?

02:23:25.86
William Hernandez
How did that happen?

02:23:26.58
LeeJay
If I was to take a guess, I think because everyone knows my story. My grandfather was just baseball. He tried basketball. he hated it He tried football.

02:23:33.30
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:23:33.46
LeeJay
he hated it. My father wasn't into sports. And i think they just maybe followed my lead and what I like.

02:23:45.10
LeeJay
Besides like, well, well you know, with John, the besides with the Knicks,

02:23:48.02
William Hernandez
Yeah, right. Yeah, he's a Bulls fan.

02:23:49.46
LeeJay
Um, yeah, I mean, I think that's how it happened. I would hope that's how it happened. But you know, so um, yeah, that's that would be my that would be my guess um of how it happened.

02:23:55.88
William Hernandez
Jonathan, let me know.

02:24:01.12
William Hernandez
Gotcha. Okay. ah Eric, you're number one.

02:24:06.94
Erik Pimentel
My number one, Super Bowl 42. You know, that's, I remember this, there's so much things about this that I could go about because I remember, Will, me me and you were at, were watching the last Super Bowl where we got murdered with the Ravens.

02:24:10.58
William Hernandez
Same for me. Yeah.

02:24:20.28
William Hernandez
Right. Yes. Yeah.

02:24:21.46
Erik Pimentel
So when the Giants made this Super Bowl, I wanted to make sure that even though it was I was at a friend's house, tons of people all over the place, um me and it was only like two other Giants fans. was like 30 people in that apartment.

02:24:34.17
William Hernandez
Jesus.

02:24:34.26
Erik Pimentel
But there were only three Giants fans. But everybody was going for the Giants because they just hated the Patriots.

02:24:39.22
William Hernandez
Okay. Yeah.

02:24:40.34
Erik Pimentel
So I remember like, I remember everything about that game.

02:24:41.48
LeeJay
Hmm.

02:24:43.14
Erik Pimentel
I remember the halftime show. i Cause I didn't want to miss anything. I was like, guys, leave me the hell alone.

02:24:49.32
William Hernandez
Uh-huh.

02:24:49.35
Erik Pimentel
I'm watching this. And there was one particular time that the giants were losing. And I, my friend had like a throw pillow on his, on his sofa. And my, you know, my superstitious as I took the pillow and I put it on my head and the giants started coming back.

02:25:06.26
Erik Pimentel
That pillow stayed on my head the rest of the game. but

02:25:09.65
William Hernandez
I love that.

02:25:10.04
Erik Pimentel
So, so again, you know, just, you know, the, the, crazy the crazy to come back to win the game and stuff like that. I remember I went to the parade, right. And the next day i went to the newsstand to buy the paper and I bought the daily news.

02:25:25.18
Erik Pimentel
The post was sold out. So I'm like, yeah.

02:25:27.30
William Hernandez
Wow.

02:25:28.31
Erik Pimentel
So I remember crap. So I went to my uncle's house. And my uncle goes, did you see the paper? I was like, yeah, I got the i got the the daily news, but I didn't get the post. So he's like, I got the post. So I go to look at the post.

02:25:41.37
Erik Pimentel
I have it here.

02:25:42.88
LeeJay
Oh, shit.

02:25:43.00
William Hernandez
Oh, shit.

02:25:43.70
Erik Pimentel
I had it laminate.

02:25:43.70
William Hernandez
yeah

02:25:44.54
Erik Pimentel
My wife laminated it for me.

02:25:46.04
LeeJay
Oh, kudos.

02:25:46.36
William Hernandez
Oh, nice.

02:25:47.12
LeeJay
Kudos to your wife.

02:25:48.12
Erik Pimentel
So, bro, look.

02:25:48.62
LeeJay
That's awesome.

02:25:49.66
Erik Pimentel
So when when he shows me the paper, I look at it. I'm like, wait a minute.

02:25:53.74
LeeJay
You're in there.

02:25:53.87
Erik Pimentel
This this is where I was standing.

02:25:56.41
LeeJay
knew it.

02:25:56.80
William Hernandez
Oh, shit.

02:25:56.88
Erik Pimentel
Covered. So I remember I was sit out standing in a corner and it was and was by a mailbox. And there was a little girl with her parents that she was dressed in all red, had a red bandana. And she was standing up on the mailbox.

02:26:11.26
Erik Pimentel
So I started looking around on this paper and I'm like, I'm in here somewhere.

02:26:14.88
LeeJay
I knew it.

02:26:16.37
Erik Pimentel
There's the girl in red and I'm standing right there.

02:26:19.18
LeeJay
Wepa.

02:26:19.40
William Hernandez
That's hilarious.

02:26:19.96
Erik Pimentel
yeah So I had my wife laminate this for me.

02:26:22.80
LeeJay
That's really cool.

02:26:24.06
Erik Pimentel
And I've had this ever since, man. That's a memory.

02:26:25.75
LeeJay
you know what've been a You know what it would would have been a greater story? If that little girl was his age and it wound up being his wife.

02:26:31.32
William Hernandez
That's hilarious. Holy shit.

02:26:34.16
Erik Pimentel
You're crazy.

02:26:38.92
Erik Pimentel
Oh, man.

02:26:39.08
William Hernandez
that's hilarious

02:26:39.83
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, that that was...

02:26:40.47
William Hernandez
oh these shit

02:26:41.56
Erik Pimentel
And it's funny because that's the first the first ah parade I went to. I went to the one at 46 also. sat Got there early, stood in the same spot that I did in 42. And, you know, I was...

02:26:53.30
LeeJay
Just because of that newspaper and you're in, it you that has to be your number one.

02:26:55.42
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:26:56.41
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, that's my number one.

02:26:57.21
William Hernandez
Yeah. I, yeah, I have not been to a parade.

02:26:58.36
Erik Pimentel
the

02:27:00.14
William Hernandez
I'm saving it. I keep on saying it. I'm saving it for the Mets, but we'll see.

02:27:04.50
LeeJay
If I go to a parade, if I get fortunate enough to go to a parade, I'm going probably die.

02:27:04.82
William Hernandez
ah

02:27:08.57
Erik Pimentel
ah

02:27:10.01
LeeJay
and and so And I'm okay with that.

02:27:13.66
William Hernandez
Um, God, I'll get, I'm going to get so fucking blitz. It's not going to be funny. Um, I mean, my number one, is it's the same thing. I was living in Chicago at the time, so i was watching the game with my ex-wife, ah and I was just but like beside myself. The biggest thing I remember, though, i remember I called my mom afterwards, and she was crying because it had been so long.

02:27:37.54
Erik Pimentel
um

02:27:38.10
William Hernandez
Since they won, you know, she's a huge Giants fan. So, um yeah, it's like the that's like the biggest thing I remember from that night ah was giving her a call. and She was crying because she was happy that they had that they had won. So. ah So, yeah, that's um that's it. LJ, what's the question you want to ask us?

02:27:56.78
LeeJay
What's the getting price that y'all going to pay for whether whatever it is, Super bowl Game 7? We can't talk about the Nets so much right now, so...

02:28:06.28
William Hernandez
No, I told you what the thing that I would do. My tactic is always going to be waiting outside the stadium to the last possible minute before.

02:28:15.99
LeeJay
No, no, take what...

02:28:16.03
William Hernandez
to

02:28:16.59
LeeJay
say No, no, no, let's just make this what it is.

02:28:17.75
William Hernandez
Okay.

02:28:19.22
LeeJay
what's If you had the money, what are you paying to get in to see this?

02:28:21.46
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:28:22.62
LeeJay
Game 7? has to be a particular game for baseball. Obviously, game seven, all chips on the table and a Super Bowl. How much would you pay to get in?

02:28:32.82
William Hernandez
Five grand.

02:28:34.33
LeeJay
Oh, shit. I guess my number, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess my number is too high because I'm going out with a bang if I had the money.

02:28:36.01
William Hernandez
I'll put that shit on my credit card. That's it! Yeah, yeah,

02:28:44.83
LeeJay
Grant, there's something that could be if I saved it, it was enough years. Could I get to that number? That's how I'm thinking of it as.

02:28:50.33
William Hernandez
yeah, yeah.

02:28:52.09
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, I was thinking about five also, like ah a game seven Mets World Series. you know um I think I could spend five maybe a little more together.

02:28:58.48
LeeJay
I

02:29:02.55
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:29:04.37
LeeJay
i doubled it, but it it would have to be very...

02:29:04.43
William Hernandez
What? Really?

02:29:06.45
LeeJay
soft Yeah, i I'm telling you.

02:29:08.44
William Hernandez
Interesting.

02:29:09.37
LeeJay
As much misery as I suffer and I'm willing to pay 10 grand, even though that would have to be very silent and I would have to keep those books away from people.

02:29:10.79
Erik Pimentel
Bro.

02:29:15.38
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't mention it to our wives.

02:29:16.79
William Hernandez
i mean, you just fucking, you just let everybody know!

02:29:17.53
LeeJay
Yeah, I can't. No, no, can't do that. can't Can't do that.

02:29:20.03
William Hernandez
Holy shit.

02:29:21.05
LeeJay
can't Because you think I'm joking? For that 10 grand, I'm willing to die.

02:29:26.71
William Hernandez
ah shit

02:29:26.84
LeeJay
going to be like...

02:29:26.87
Erik Pimentel
Honey, i watch how much was the tickets? Ah, $250.

02:29:32.21
William Hernandez
like fair

02:29:32.56
LeeJay
There's going to be running around with, I don't even know what's going to happen. I could even put that picture together. There's going to be a lot of chaos.

02:29:39.12
William Hernandez
Here's my... um God, I had a question I was going to ask you and I can't... Now, how this is for all of us. Here's the thing, though. There's the risk, right? That they lose.

02:29:50.49
William Hernandez
And you spent all that money. Is it still worth it?

02:29:54.87
LeeJay
I mean, obviously, no, because of the loss, but through and through, If I had to, yeah, sure. I would say, yeah, because you can't, you can't take that back. You made a decision already.

02:30:04.63
William Hernandez
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

02:30:06.09
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, I agree.

02:30:06.42
LeeJay
And you know that, you know, that there's, there's a, there's two outcomes. You're going to, they're going to, they're going win or they're going to lose.

02:30:11.96
William Hernandez
Right, right, yeah.

02:30:12.95
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

02:30:13.98
LeeJay
And it's going to make it so much better if they win. And you're amongst that. I just take it back. Well, to 2015, when we, when we didn't pay that money, obviously, and we were amongst a bunch of strangers and that place was packed.

02:30:18.15
William Hernandez
That chaos, yeah. Right?

02:30:24.42
LeeJay
And if that was any other day or any other game, I would have not been there because I hate crowds and i hate people.

02:30:29.75
William Hernandez
Mm-mm, yeah.

02:30:30.52
LeeJay
But that's the kind of feeling times a thousand if you were in that same atmosphere and they won. You know I mean? That's how I look.

02:30:41.10
LeeJay
You can't look at it as they lose. You know what I'm saying?

02:30:42.77
William Hernandez
Yeah, right.

02:30:43.90
LeeJay
Because that's an option.

02:30:43.99
William Hernandez
Yeah, exactly.

02:30:45.18
LeeJay
That could actually happen. But I don't want to think that thinking I'm going to throw this money down.

02:30:50.45
William Hernandez
Yeah, exactly.

02:30:50.62
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah.

02:30:53.50
William Hernandez
All right. Well, that's going to do it for us this week. Lee J, have fun in DR.

02:31:03.36
William Hernandez
We'll see you in a few weeks. As we hold it down for you, Larry, get get let me know if you can come on in a couple of weeks. Even if we have to change the day to like a Tuesday or something, that um a Tuesday instead of Monday, we can we can do that switch. um Yeah. Guys, have fun watching the game on Sunday. We'll obviously talk about it, Eric and I, on Monday. That'll probably be our lead thing unless, I don't know, you know, the Mets trade for fucking school ball.

02:31:34.60
William Hernandez
can't think of anything else that would knock that off the number one thing that's awkward.

02:31:37.46
Erik Pimentel
Does Larry travel to spring training with teams or no?

02:31:40.25
William Hernandez
No, he doesn't.

02:31:40.98
Erik Pimentel
No. Okay.

02:31:41.13
William Hernandez
No, no, no. He doesn't. No, he doesn't. um So, all right. I'm Will Hernandez here for Eric Pimentel and Lee J. Perilla, and we'll see y'all next week.

02:31:54.36
William Hernandez
Peace out, everyone.

02:31:56.08
LeeJay
Later.

02:31:57.08
Erik Pimentel
See you.