88. Fly Seahawks Fly: Seattle Wins Super Bowl 60

The NFL season is officially in the books, and Super Bowl 60 is in the rearview mirror. This week on Two Dummies That Just Watch, Will Hernandez and Erik Pimentel recap the big game from Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, where the Seattle Seahawks handled the New England Patriots and secured their second Super Bowl title in franchise history. It wasn’t a classic, but it still gave us plenty to chat about—what worked, what didn’t, and what it means heading into next season.

From there, the Dummies hit the NBA trade deadline, where the New York Knicks made a sneaky-good move by landing Jose Alvarado, the Brooklyn native finally suiting up for the team he grew up rooting for. Plus: what’s going on with the Brooklyn Nets, and the messy situation surrounding the decision to move on from Cam Thomas.

At halftime, Will and Erik switch gears into real-life talk: why suburban public transportation options can be so brutal.

On the back half, it’s hoops and nostalgia with St. John’s basketball and the college teams they’ve stuck with through the years. Then it’s Mets Spring Training time—complete with the Dummies’ all-time Mets lineup. And because it’s a Will-and-Erik episode, you already know it ends in wrestling: a pro wrestling Mt. Rushmore for the most memorable jobbers/enhancement talent.

Timestamps

9:28: Seahawks win Super Bowl 60
29:31: Knicks solidify backcourt at the NBA trade deadline
42:58: The Nets are the Nets
53:08: Halftime topic: Transportation in suburban areas (the lack of it)
1:03:44: St. John’s beats UConn at a sold out Madison Square Garden
1:22:47: All-time Mets Team
Mt Rushmore of Jobbers (Enhancement Talent)  

Transcript

00:00:01.47
William Hernandez
Greetings and salutations and welcome back to Two Dummies That Just Watched, a sports podcast between friends. This is episode number 88.

00:00:13.75
William Hernandez
I am one of your hosts, Will Hernandez, and I am here with my co-host for this week. Mr. Eric Pimentel. Sir, the world didn't end because Bad Bunny was the halftime show at the Super Bowl. Everything's all well. Everybody can calm down now.

00:00:31.50
William Hernandez
Let's go relax. Everyone relax. Anyway, sir, what's going on? How are you doing?

00:00:36.55
Erik Pimentel
I'm good. I just woke up from that boring Super Bowl. Yeah. yeah

00:00:42.46
William Hernandez
I have such a different opinion on that game. We'll get to that. Because we were talking about this ah yesterday in the chat with Lee J. And for those who are wondering, Lee J's not going to be here this week and and next week because... um He is getting getting ready to fly to Eric's homeland in the Dominican Republic. I think they've i think if they fly out tomorrow, if I'm not mistaken. So, you know, he was taking some, you know, not going to get on when you're, you know, running around all over the place trying to get everything ready um to get going. So, sir, I've been meaning to ask you, I don't think i don't think we talked about this.

00:01:21.34
William Hernandez
last week. But what do you do for the Super Bowl? Do you have like a... Like, what do you do? Get a bunch of food together or like what's the situation?

00:01:27.38
Erik Pimentel
ah Well, it this ah yeah this year I just watched it by myself. It was just me. um

00:01:33.53
William Hernandez
Okay. Gotcha.

00:01:34.42
Erik Pimentel
But in previous years, I've invited like my neighbors. oh This one dude that I'm cool with, Louie, he's originally from New York too. Giants fan.

00:01:43.80
William Hernandez
Okay.

00:01:44.01
Erik Pimentel
So me and him, sometimes i invite him and his and his kids over.

00:01:43.92
William Hernandez
Okay.

00:01:48.50
Erik Pimentel
But normally I just, yesterday what I did was I kept it simple. I went to the local rest supermarket, bought some wings. And i also I also bought some, I made my own little nacho plate and that's it.

00:01:56.92
William Hernandez
Gotcha.

00:02:01.58
Erik Pimentel
I was done after that. I was done.

00:02:04.88
William Hernandez
Nice. Nice. Yeah, we, are bro, ah for people who don't know, i think I've mentioned this before, but like, the Super Bowl is like a holiday day for us.

00:02:16.66
William Hernandez
My mom and my stepfather treat as a holiday. So it's basically Thanksgiving, Christmas, the Super Bowl, Easter, Mother's Day and Father's Day. yeah You know, it's always like, there's something going on.

00:02:33.18
William Hernandez
So basically, we, um yeah, we had a bunch of people over. It was like maybe 15 people all together. um bunch of food, wings.

00:02:47.03
William Hernandez
ah What else was there? Empanadas, which were, I don't know where they get them from, but they were really fucking good.

00:02:51.77
Erik Pimentel
Nice. Yeah, my wife my wife sometimes make the empanadas, but i was it was just going to be me watching.

00:02:52.95
William Hernandez
I don't know. Yeah,

00:02:57.36
Erik Pimentel
They're like, nah, worry about it. Cool.

00:02:58.97
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah. That's a lot of work for just one person.

00:03:01.78
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:03:01.93
William Hernandez
um What else? Somebody bought flan. I'm not a big fan of... Do you like flan? I'm not a big fan of that. i don't know why.

00:03:08.88
Erik Pimentel
it's

00:03:08.96
William Hernandez
Never really got into it.

00:03:09.45
Erik Pimentel
It's all right. i've I've been to some places that make it really well, but um but yeah, it's okay.

00:03:13.30
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah, I'm not... Yeah, for some reason, it's not... It's just not me. One of my sister's friends... I can't remember if I ever took you to Peter Pan Donuts in Greenpoint.

00:03:26.55
William Hernandez
Does that sound familiar at all?

00:03:26.81
Erik Pimentel
I've never been there. No, i no i've never i know we've we've walked down Manhattan.

00:03:28.18
William Hernandez
Okay.

00:03:30.62
Erik Pimentel
Is that Manhattan Avenue?

00:03:31.80
William Hernandez
Yeah, it's on Manhattan Avenue.

00:03:31.99
Erik Pimentel
that want

00:03:32.76
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:33.24
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, I've never been in there, though.

00:03:33.84
William Hernandez
yeah So, and I think I brought this up before on the show, that my sister's friend brought two boxes.

00:03:44.31
William Hernandez
So 24, you know, two dozen. 24 donuts. Bro, I think i she she got there about a half an hour before kickoff. I went over to the box at halftime.

00:03:56.60
William Hernandez
There was like four donuts left. I'm like, what the fuck happened? Are you kidding me? And I love those donuts. For anybody who who knows, Peter Pan Donuts and Greenpoint.

00:04:10.01
William Hernandez
if you've If you've seen, um it was the last Spider-Man movie. The scene where he goes to visit, um Peter goes to visit them because she's working at the donut shop.

00:04:21.74
William Hernandez
That's Peter Pan Donuts. That's what they filmed that at. So um anyway, I ended up.

00:04:27.53
Erik Pimentel
That's been around for years, right?

00:04:28.93
William Hernandez
Oh, dude, it's it's older than me.

00:04:30.89
Erik Pimentel
Wow.

00:04:30.97
William Hernandez
You know, that place is older than I am. They, um, they've had, you know, they've over the years, I added flavors and and new types of donuts. So I was fortunate that there was still a red velvet donut left.

00:04:44.09
William Hernandez
So like, all right, that was pretty good. I'm very simple. Chocolate with sprinkles or like a glazed donut. Those are usually like my go-tos at Peter Pan. But, uh, but yeah, I brought back some food. Uh, it's, it's funny cause I, We get there. I get there.

00:05:02.52
William Hernandez
And I have to drive my mom to ShopRite nearby because they ordered like the Italian heroes and the American heroes.

00:05:08.12
Erik Pimentel
Okay.

00:05:09.42
William Hernandez
So I'm walking around ShopRite with these two huge fucking boxes under my arm. And I'm like trying to maneuver through the store without like knocking into anybody.

00:05:21.18
William Hernandez
But ah yeah, again, crazy. We do this shit every um every single year. So um anyway. I think we can get into it here. But before we do that, don't forget that this is a weekly sports podcast.

00:05:38.07
Erik Pimentel
Thank you.

00:05:38.10
William Hernandez
And we come at you each and every week on the podcast platform of your choice. I would say mostly Apple Podcasts and Spotify are the two main ah services that people use to find us. Don't forget that you can email us at twodummiesportspodcast at gmail.com.

00:05:58.90
William Hernandez
And that's the number two. I did not even check it today. Let's see. No. Well, Larry likes to send us press releases. So, uh,

00:06:08.33
Erik Pimentel
thought LeeJey was trolling us and sent something.

00:06:09.85
William Hernandez
yeah ah yeah

00:06:13.72
William Hernandez
yeah. Yeah. Give me, give me 500 words on, uh, Jose Alvarado going to the Knicks. We'll get into it. Um, um, Yeah, don't forget that we are on social media as well. I would say Instagram and YouTube are probably the two of our most active platforms. So I have to say, ive been I was lazy this week putting up the YouTube video, and I did not do it. But I'm going to start trying to do something different on YouTube. I was reading something about how it might be better...

00:06:50.90
William Hernandez
Like tomorrow, put up the full episode. Right. And then as the week goes on, put up like just like the segments, cut the video and then put up the segments of like, I don't know, the Superbowl, obviously.

00:07:04.47
William Hernandez
And then maybe, you know, going to talk about the Knicks a little bit and then maybe we'll do this. Uh, later on, we got a little special thing to get us going for spring training with, um,

00:07:16.63
William Hernandez
an all time Mets team, which was inspired by something else. So, um,

00:07:21.72
Erik Pimentel
Have you ever thought about doing like like putting up polls like some about something that we talk about on the show?

00:07:28.06
William Hernandez
yeah, I could do, I could actually, i gotta see how to add those because you could put a poll with like a video. So I just got to see, um, how to add that. I do want to, because I told you, I was thinking about, uh,

00:07:48.29
William Hernandez
streaming or going live for the St. John's game on Friday. Obviously that did not happen, but here's, here's, here's an, and I'll ask you now, and maybe when Lee J comes back, I think it would be a fun thing. i just going need to figure out exactly how to do it. So the first Mets spring training game is let's see Saturday.

00:08:17.90
William Hernandez
February 21st. It's a 1 o'clock game. Now, the only way this is really going to work, specifically for you, because you get MLB.TV, right?

00:08:31.35
Erik Pimentel
i Yeah, I got the app.

00:08:31.58
William Hernandez
Or my...

00:08:32.39
Erik Pimentel
I got the MLB app, yeah.

00:08:32.86
William Hernandez
Okay. Yeah. So, because I think if the game's being shown on SNY, you'll be able to watch it as part of the subscription, if I'm not mistaken.

00:08:44.04
William Hernandez
But, I don't know was thinking about... Let's not do the whole fucking game, but like like maybe the first hour, like the first three innings, we can all we can get on and just like shoot the shit as we're as we're watching you know baseball for the first time in 2026.

00:08:51.28
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

00:08:59.49
William Hernandez
But yeah, i'll um I need to figure out the logistics on my end because there are things that you can use to where multiple people can to log in and be on the stream at the same time.

00:09:12.38
William Hernandez
So um I just got figure out exactly... which platform to use. But yeah, that could be, that could be an option for the first spring training game of the year.

00:09:24.38
William Hernandez
So, all right. Last night from when we're recording was the Superbowl, Superbowl 60, the Seattle Seahawks have won their second Superbowl They beat the New England Patriots.

00:09:48.34
William Hernandez
You would think I would have to score up, but I don't. Why don't not?

00:09:52.31
Erik Pimentel
So 20, 20, 29 to Yeah. 27, 21. Yeah.

00:09:55.30
William Hernandez
29 to 13. There you go. We did not win our bet, by the way, for those who were wondering. What did we say the final score was goingnna be yesterday last week? 27 to 21 or some shit, right? forty one or some shit right

00:10:06.58
Erik Pimentel
twenty seven twenty one yeah twenty seven twenty one

00:10:09.27
William Hernandez
27-21. Damn. Well, listen, if the fucking Patriots offense would have showed up yesterday, ah yeah we might have we might have hit that.

00:10:16.12
Erik Pimentel
yeah

00:10:19.29
William Hernandez
ah listen i Listen, and you joked around about it beforehand, about it being a boring game. don't think I necessarily minded the type of game it was, especially through those first two and a half quarters.

00:10:36.92
William Hernandez
um Because it wasn't a shootout by any stretch of the imagination. i think if I'm not mistaken, each team had about the same yards ah as as each other.

00:10:50.42
William Hernandez
If I'm not, let me just look up the

00:10:55.51
William Hernandez
look up the stats from yesterday. But listen, it was, was it the game that everybody wanted? i don't i don't think so.

00:11:06.39
William Hernandez
And one thing I will push back on with some people I was i was i was listening to one particular podcast today about saying, oh, it didn't feel like a Super Bowl. Come on, guy.

00:11:17.08
William Hernandez
yeah i think part of the problem was that people always wanted to be a close game and a shootout. But I also think, look what happened last year.

00:11:27.80
William Hernandez
Last year was a blowout, right? The Eagles completely destroyed the yam the Chiefs. So I think some people were just wondering, you know, wanting to see like a better game this year.

00:11:39.94
William Hernandez
And it just it just didn't happen.

00:11:40.54
Erik Pimentel
I also think the people are used to seeing like Mahomes, you know, the big names in the Super Bowl.

00:11:41.46
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:11:45.85
William Hernandez
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

00:11:47.03
Erik Pimentel
And they weren't really any big names in this Super Bowl, you know, but...

00:11:50.95
William Hernandez
Agreed.

00:11:51.86
Erik Pimentel
I mean, and and those are the same people that bitch about when Kansas City makes it every year. Oh, I'm tired of Kansas.

00:11:56.21
William Hernandez
Right?

00:11:58.28
Erik Pimentel
You can't have it both ways, bro.

00:12:00.89
William Hernandez
Absolutely. You absolutely can't have it both ways. But so just looking at some of the key stats from um the game, i think the the biggest thing for me was the fact that, ah listen, San Darnold did not have to be a superstar in this game, right?

00:12:17.53
William Hernandez
that's His numbers are pedestrian. He was 19 of 38, 202 yards. He only had one touchdown. He got sacked only one time. His QB rating was only 74.67. And he only averaged 5.32 yards per pass.

00:12:35.19
William Hernandez
I mean, that what it came down to was Kenneth Walker, who won the MVP.

00:12:38.32
Erik Pimentel
Drake

00:12:39.54
William Hernandez
He rushes for 135 yards on 27 carries. He did not have a touchdown, but that didn't really matter at the end of the day. And he averaged five yards ah per gain ah per gain. And then on the other side...

00:12:57.18
William Hernandez
Bro, Derrick May got sacked six times.

00:13:01.33
Erik Pimentel
drake me

00:13:02.51
William Hernandez
Drake May. Why do I keep on saying Derrick May? Drake May got sacked six times. um Listen, that defense. and Let me ask you something, because this is what this was something that came up that I kept on seeing.

00:13:17.98
William Hernandez
Because people were kind of saying that this was like an all-time defensive performance game. in the Superbowl, but that a lot of people might not necessarily remember it because you just made the point.

00:13:33.27
William Hernandez
Who are the big names in the Seattle Seahawks defense? Really? This is not like Richard Sherman led defense from the when they won the Superbowl the first time around.

00:13:39.96
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:13:43.58
William Hernandez
So um are you, are you in the same camp as that, that maybe people might not remember that this was a great defensive performance from the Seahawks?

00:13:54.10
Erik Pimentel
I think there'll be more talking about Drake May and how he didn't look prepared, honestly.

00:13:59.54
William Hernandez
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

00:14:00.89
Erik Pimentel
um I, you know, as good as a good as office coordinator as Josh McDaniels is, you would think that he would be ready for all the blitzing that Seattle did. You know, I mean, listen, I never paid quarterback in an NFL.

00:14:11.42
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:14:14.26
Erik Pimentel
I don't don't pretend to, but. you know there's ways to stop the blitz, you know, is's just to slow to slow down the blitz, you know, quick quick passes, screen plays, you know, draws to your to your running back.

00:14:20.79
William Hernandez
Sure. Mm-hmm.

00:14:28.46
Erik Pimentel
and And they weren't doing a lot of that.

00:14:29.15
William Hernandez
Right.

00:14:30.10
Erik Pimentel
You know, it's like it made no sense to me. And I joked around in our in our group text where I said that Drake May looks like he's seeing ghosts. and And honestly, that' that's how he looked.

00:14:41.19
Erik Pimentel
That's how he looked.

00:14:41.72
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:14:41.91
Erik Pimentel
I mean... That's the first time you could say, and I know he didn't have a great playoff run leading up to this, but that's that's when it goes to show you how it's all it's great to have a young quarterback.

00:14:48.95
William Hernandez
No, he did not.

00:14:55.45
Erik Pimentel
But when it comes times like this, give me the veteran quarterback any day the week, because I'm sure, you know, name a veteran quarterback. I mean, I'll put Joe Flacco behind there.

00:15:06.01
Erik Pimentel
And he they were there were times when there was there were New England receivers open and Drake May just couldn't get to them, didn't see them open.

00:15:06.39
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:15:11.38
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:15:14.62
William Hernandez
a

00:15:15.19
Erik Pimentel
And kudos to the Seahawks, you know, for running that, you know, the blitz packages and things like that.

00:15:15.35
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:15:20.32
Erik Pimentel
But Josh McDaniel is supposed to be this, you know, guru in offense and eden he didn't look like it. And Drake May looked shook.

00:15:29.18
William Hernandez
i will You break up the thing with not running the ball. Stevenson only had 23. Overall, they had 79 yards on the ground, which is crazy. and ah i because i It's crazy for me because Henderson, for me,

00:15:43.29
William Hernandez
was a workhorse on my fantasy team this year. And he was like nowhere to be found in this game.

00:15:46.68
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

00:15:48.58
William Hernandez
He only, he only had 19 yards on six carries. Stevenson only had 23 yards on, uh, on seven carries. Henderson had a one year long run for nine yards.

00:16:00.56
William Hernandez
And Stevenson had one run for, uh, for six yards. And, and, uh, and the running game was like nowhere to be found. I almost wonder if they felt like in some way panicked,

00:16:13.78
William Hernandez
because they weren't getting much done in the running game that they had to just keep throwing a ball. I wonder if that was kind of like the, what was going on there.

00:16:21.43
Erik Pimentel
I mean, maybe, but I think obviously it was the wrong wrong way of of doing it. But I just think they they gave up on a running game too quickly because at halftime, you're still in this game.

00:16:31.67
William Hernandez
Oh yeah. They were still in the game. Yeah. That's the thing.

00:16:33.18
Erik Pimentel
You know, up pretty much up until the fourth quarter, you're still in the game.

00:16:33.54
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:16:36.50
Erik Pimentel
You know, even though that you're not scoring.

00:16:36.73
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:16:39.29
Erik Pimentel
and And here's another thing you want to talk about analytics. this This Super Bowl proves that take the points when you have the points.

00:16:47.93
William Hernandez
Yup. he Yeah. And they did that. Yup.

00:16:50.90
Erik Pimentel
Keep kicking field goals, five field goals, and that was more than enough. that the you know And then they scored the late the late touchdowns.

00:16:54.49
William Hernandez
Right. Exactly.

00:16:57.39
Erik Pimentel
But this goes to show you, this ah if this was um Dan Campbell, he would have went like a thousand times for fourth down instead of trying to kick the field goals.

00:17:08.41
Erik Pimentel
Take the points, especially in a Super Bowl. Take the points and then worry about it later.

00:17:13.56
William Hernandez
And the thing was, it's, it's, I'm glad you brought that up because there were times when, You know, obviously a bunch of us are watching the game. My brother, my you know our friend Caesar, and and and some other people are watching the game. And I forget, it might have been late, middle to late second quarter.

00:17:31.00
William Hernandez
And there was a point where the Seahawks, I think, were like fourth and eight. I think it was between fourth and six and fourth and eight, somewhere around there. And they were at about midfield.

00:17:44.31
William Hernandez
And I thought to myself, this is what and analytics is telling me like right now that the Seahawks are going to go for this. One, because their defense is playing well. And two, because you're in you're kind of in no man's land on the field right there.

00:18:00.44
William Hernandez
And they punted the ball. And I was shocked because we I almost wonder if that had been a regular season game. if they would have gone for it on that fourth down situation and not punted the ball.

00:18:16.75
William Hernandez
So I, you know, this is one thing I was wondering, you know, are people going to be more conservative with the play calling in the Superbowl? Because like you said, to your point, why would I leave points off, you know, on, on the, on the field there when you can kick a field goal?

00:18:33.94
William Hernandez
And that guy was making field goals easily yesterday. So it's interesting.

00:18:36.92
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Especially the way the game was going where they were dominating. You know, why take why take a chance and go for it, you know, and not make it and then give give the Patriots the ball in in the midfield?

00:18:41.06
William Hernandez
Yeah, right. Yeah.

00:18:47.49
Erik Pimentel
You know, why do that? The punter did a great job too because he kept pinning them inside the 10.

00:18:52.12
William Hernandez
Right.

00:18:52.38
Erik Pimentel
So, you know, it was all overall between their kicker and their punter.

00:18:52.44
William Hernandez
Yes, he did. Yeah.

00:18:56.26
Erik Pimentel
It was great special teams, you know, game for them.

00:18:59.35
William Hernandez
Yeah, it was. And I mean, listen, the, um, the field goal guy could have easily won MVP yesterday. Because I'm not mistaken, did he he not hit five field goals?

00:19:10.13
William Hernandez
Is that what he...

00:19:10.23
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, he, I mean, between that and extra points, he responsible for 17 points yesterday.

00:19:11.01
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:19:15.22
William Hernandez
Right. So there you go. I mean, he could have easily been the...

00:19:16.76
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:19:19.34
William Hernandez
He could have easily been the MVP.

00:19:21.75
Erik Pimentel
And no no kicker has ever won the MVP before.

00:19:22.01
William Hernandez
But...

00:19:24.67
Erik Pimentel
I think Vinatieri, I think Adam Vinatieri came close, but he never won it.

00:19:24.95
William Hernandez
Which is crazy. Yeah. but Yeah, you would think... Yeah, you would think Vinatieri would be the guy to... um You know, to do that. That's so interesting. It's funny because at some point...

00:19:38.33
William Hernandez
I think it was what midway due to third quarter that nobody had scored a touchdown yet. Neither team had scored a touchdown yet. So we're all sitting there. We're like, has there ever been a Superbowl when not a touchdown has not been scored?

00:19:51.08
William Hernandez
It's never happened, but there was one Superbowl where it came close and it was the, and I think they said it during the broadcast. It was that Pat's Ram Superbowl.

00:20:00.18
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:20:00.41
William Hernandez
where I think only one touchdown was scored in that game.

00:20:03.58
Erik Pimentel
In the fourth quarter.

00:20:03.57
William Hernandez
So, yeah, right, in the fourth quarter. So we came close. It came close to that happening. But, you know, things hope things opened up later on and in the game. but It just turned into being a blowout. And, you know, you're sitting in there and you're thinking, man, at some point, when the fuck are the Pats going to wake up here and, like, do something? And guess what happens?

00:20:25.56
William Hernandez
People start questioning the the schedule.

00:20:29.11
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:20:29.08
William Hernandez
They didn't play anybody during the year. You know? Now we're seeing that come to come to light right now. But I don't know. we We talked about that last week, and we didn't think that was a fair a fair assessment of of of their season.

00:20:46.07
Erik Pimentel
Listen, you play who you play.

00:20:46.34
William Hernandez
But...

00:20:47.31
Erik Pimentel
who you play you know know when when the mets When the Mets made the super the World Series in 2000, they didn't play the Braves. You think I was bitching and like, oh, we didn't beat the Braves. We made it to the World Series. I don't care.

00:21:00.54
William Hernandez
Exactly. Holy shit. Let me ask you this, though, because this this was also kind of the, um you know, people like to look ahead to next year.

00:21:12.89
William Hernandez
And I'm going to say right now, for the NFC at least, the Seahawks are probably a good favorite to go to at least, you know, one of the teams to go back to the Super Bowl on the NFC side.

00:21:16.78
Erik Pimentel
yeah.

00:21:26.34
William Hernandez
Now the thing is, guess who's going to play a first place schedule next year? Pats.

00:21:31.00
Erik Pimentel
yeah

00:21:31.42
William Hernandez
So after what we saw last night, how much work do the Pats need? They got to fix that all offensive line. I would think that's like the biggest concern right now.

00:21:43.80
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. I mean, you hope, you know, another year for Drake may, you know, this he'll be his third year. Um, I'm sure they'll work on whatever they need to work on to, to help, but yeah, offensive line was, her I think there was, i heard a stat on the radio today that they said one of the linemen from the, the Patriots had about 15 or 16 pressures against them, which was a super bowl, super bowl record.

00:22:10.04
William Hernandez
Damn.

00:22:10.55
Erik Pimentel
Um,

00:22:10.48
William Hernandez
they They keep track of that stuff, huh?

00:22:12.06
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, they keep track of everything.

00:22:13.30
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:22:13.46
Erik Pimentel
It's crazy. Unbelievable. But, um but yeah, they it's – obviously, every team needs to tweak some stuff, whether you win or you don't win. um So I'll see – I'll be curious this to – I mean, you still got to play. there There's some – it's always a tough division.

00:22:30.26
Erik Pimentel
playing you You're playing Buffalo twice.

00:22:30.33
William Hernandez
yeah

00:22:33.02
Erik Pimentel
You know, um the Jets hopefully improve. um The Dolphins hopefully improve. So who knows? Who knows how next year's going to look for them.

00:22:41.02
William Hernandez
Yeah, it'll be i'll be I'll be curious to see. And you you have to imagine their biggest threat from within the division is going to come from the Bills.

00:22:52.84
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:22:54.30
William Hernandez
And then you never know. Listen, you know, Bo Nix, not a great timing for the injury, right? And who knows if that would have turned out differently of a few weeks back with the against the Denver Broncos. So you know the Broncos are going to be there.

00:23:12.25
William Hernandez
Maybe the Bengals bounce back.

00:23:16.51
Erik Pimentel
Chiefs might come back.

00:23:17.66
William Hernandez
Chiefs probably will come back. Steelers, I'll be curious to see what happens with, because now there's more talk about Rodgers coming back now, which is, which is like insane. Apparently he's been having conversations with, um,

00:23:35.24
William Hernandez
He's been having conversations with with McCarthy. Let's see. Let's see. Let's look at the two early Super Bowl odds for next year.

00:23:44.60
Erik Pimentel
I think though you have to put in the Ravens too. You know, going to be motivated to make Jim Harbaugh or John Harbaugh look like an idiot.

00:23:51.80
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. So right now, let's have a little fun with this. The Seahawks make sense, right? The Rams.

00:24:04.86
William Hernandez
The Bills, the Ravens, the Packers, the Eagles, the Patriots, and the Chargers.

00:24:08.60
Erik Pimentel
you go.

00:24:17.02
William Hernandez
Interesting. The odds are already out there, guys. You fucking the Genoids. They're already out there.

00:24:24.24
Erik Pimentel
Giants plus 7,500.

00:24:24.76
William Hernandez
yeah

00:24:28.30
William Hernandez
Bro, let's take that bet right now.

00:24:28.54
Erik Pimentel
Let's go.

00:24:33.04
William Hernandez
I'll put down 10 bucks on that right now and see what happens.

00:24:35.64
Erik Pimentel
You know what? The the Jets are ridiculous, bro.

00:24:37.24
William Hernandez
Jeez. What are they, Jets?

00:24:40.15
Erik Pimentel
plus twenty five thousand for the jets

00:24:40.47
William Hernandez
ah

00:24:43.96
William Hernandez
Come

00:24:45.56
Erik Pimentel
ah

00:24:45.59
William Hernandez
Holy shit. That's awful. My God.

00:24:51.68
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:24:51.74
William Hernandez
Well, listen, we we we we're going to have a... um I would say the next time we really talk about the NFL, we're going to be doing an and NFL draft in the post after the NFL draft. so Look out for that. Okay, your your favorite commercial of the night. What a shit show of commercials they had.

00:25:10.26
William Hernandez
My God. I'd say the Dunkin' Donuts one was pretty good. um The 50 Cent one with the DoorDash.

00:25:22.39
William Hernandez
Did that actually make it on the air?

00:25:24.76
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, i think i think so.

00:25:24.98
William Hernandez
The 50 Cent one? Okay.

00:25:27.36
Erik Pimentel
I think I remember seeing that.

00:25:27.86
William Hernandez
Okay.

00:25:28.64
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he was just trolling a bunch of people.

00:25:31.77
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, mostly, like, taking veiled shots at Diddy, which I thought was funny.

00:25:32.47
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:35.64
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

00:25:37.98
William Hernandez
um Yeah, I gotta say, there weren't really, like, any memorable commercials last night.

00:25:41.66
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, the the Polar Bear one with the Pepsi, you know, and making...

00:25:45.52
William Hernandez
because making fun of Pep, yeah, making fun of Coke with Pepsi, yeah.

00:25:49.06
Erik Pimentel
The cool part was at the end when they got caught in the Coldplay concert. Did you see that?

00:25:53.02
William Hernandez
Yeah!

00:25:53.91
Erik Pimentel
man

00:25:54.26
William Hernandez
Yes! Holy shit.

00:25:57.10
Erik Pimentel
Um, which, which other ones that they weren't really, that's lot that stuck out.

00:25:58.17
William Hernandez
oh and shit

00:26:02.39
Erik Pimentel
and And obviously, you know, it's, it's crazy because the Superbowl used to be about, besides the game, it used to be about the commercials.

00:26:10.14
William Hernandez
But yeah, obviously.

00:26:11.06
Erik Pimentel
You know, I honestly, I honestly think what's going on is that it's so damn expensive to make in the Superbowl that some of these, some of these marketing people are like, it's not worth it.

00:26:11.10
William Hernandez
Yeah, of course. Yeah.

00:26:18.36
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:26:22.42
Erik Pimentel
You know, cause nowadays you could, you could promote yourself everywhere on the internet, YouTube, all of this.

00:26:23.58
William Hernandez
I agree.

00:26:29.30
Erik Pimentel
The Superbowl is not the a big deal like it used to be before.

00:26:29.30
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:26:32.96
William Hernandez
Yeah. But yet the price of the commercials keep going up and up and up, which I just don't understand.

00:26:37.88
Erik Pimentel
I don't get it either.

00:26:39.03
William Hernandez
and makes snow By the way, I forgot to send this to you you and LeeJay earlier, but um do you remember when ABC ah rejected the wwe WWE's commercial?

00:26:50.81
Erik Pimentel
Yes, I saw that.

00:26:50.97
William Hernandez
Do you remember that one?

00:26:51.77
Erik Pimentel
I saw that.

00:26:52.01
William Hernandez
With the one in the old folks home?

00:26:52.41
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yes, yes, yes.

00:26:55.95
William Hernandez
What a great commercial that is. Holy shit. Yeah, of course you saw. Because you, me, and LeeJay all got the same fucking algorithm now.

00:27:06.81
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, well, Lee J sending that stupid shit with the food and all that.

00:27:07.09
William Hernandez
It's unbelievable.

00:27:10.98
Erik Pimentel
Jeez.

00:27:14.70
William Hernandez
Guys, if you, want if you, if you, TLC has this show that people eat like this weird shit. So you got somebody like eating the cardboard boxes and ah pieces of furniture.

00:27:27.38
Erik Pimentel
Cardboard box.

00:27:33.69
Erik Pimentel
Cushions. Get out of here, bro.

00:27:35.15
William Hernandez
shit.

00:27:37.94
Erik Pimentel
I was just waiting for the dude to pull out some hot sauce and start drinking.

00:27:42.50
William Hernandez
And Lee Jey watches all this trash reality TV. So he's sending us all this shit.

00:27:46.07
Erik Pimentel
And then sends it to us.

00:27:48.10
William Hernandez
Yeah. It's just like, what? the the funny The funny one is the guy the the guy with the the African accent watching the ah ah people, you know.

00:27:56.86
Erik Pimentel
yeah

00:27:58.94
William Hernandez
Listen, I'm not making, listen. The people who have problems with eating a lot of, you know, obese people have eating food. and it's it's a It's a problem for them, but. There's this guy Instagram that does like, he makes videos off of the people that go to order their food and stuff like that. And he hast he's clearly from Africa.

00:28:17.05
William Hernandez
And his accents hu his accent makes the videos funnier.

00:28:20.50
Erik Pimentel
That's what makes it funny, yeah.

00:28:22.46
William Hernandez
And he probably knows that. um Pretty good. Yeah, I don't know how we got onto that topic. ah Anyway, anything else from the Super Bowl that stood out to you?

00:28:35.32
William Hernandez
You know, again, wasn't the greatest... It wasn't the greatest game in the world, but I don't know. I i just didn't have a problem with the defensive struggle. I kind of got bummed...

00:28:45.56
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, i don't

00:28:46.65
William Hernandez
I kind of got bummed out when it started pulling... ah When the Seahawks started of pulling away from the... You know, in the game.

00:28:51.22
Erik Pimentel
i don't I don't mind thefen you know the a defensive game because it it makes it it makes for a close game.

00:28:57.08
William Hernandez
Yeah, that's true.

00:28:57.27
Erik Pimentel
i just i I just think that that game was like too discombobulated. like it It felt like...

00:29:03.93
William Hernandez
Yeah, that... Yeah.

00:29:05.46
Erik Pimentel
I don't know. I don't i can't put put my finger on it, but I just did i wasn't feeling that game.

00:29:11.35
William Hernandez
There wasn't a lot of rhythm to it at all.

00:29:13.08
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:29:13.98
William Hernandez
And I think that's what that's i think that's probably the probably the thing that people were looking at at the end of the day. but um But yeah. On to baseball, guys.

00:29:25.08
Erik Pimentel
Let's go.

00:29:25.56
William Hernandez
Well, before we get there. Still got a lot of basketball to go. So. The Knicks.

00:29:36.70
William Hernandez
who got completely destroyed the other night on Friday night against the Pistons. And I get it. I get it. Cat was out. OG was out. They were wrestling. They were wrestling a lot of guys.

00:29:47.48
William Hernandez
It was night.

00:29:48.70
Erik Pimentel
Load management.

00:29:49.75
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. Load, load these. ah It was, it was the second game of a back to back.

00:29:52.06
Erik Pimentel
okay

00:29:57.50
William Hernandez
um What did they play again? They played tomorrow against the Pacers at the garden. So, It's back-to-back, another back-to-back. They play tomorrow and Wednesday.

00:30:10.52
William Hernandez
Tomorrow against the the Pacers, and then Wednesday against the 76ers.

00:30:15.18
Erik Pimentel
Listen, no, the All-Star, I think the All-Star game break is after that, so.

00:30:18.87
William Hernandez
Yeah, the All-Star game is back after because they won't play again until the 19th. So they got they got some, yeah.

00:30:22.66
Erik Pimentel
All right, so no no resting, just play your fucking games.

00:30:24.54
William Hernandez
yeah Yeah, exactly. to This week, you got to play your guys. Anyway, so obviously a lot of the trade talk... heading into this trade deadline for the NBA was what was going to happen with Giannis. Giannis this, Giannis that, and guess what? Giannis didn't go anywhere.

00:30:43.28
William Hernandez
He's still with the Bucs. But the Knicks did make a a pretty significant move as far as solidifying their backcourt.

00:30:55.96
William Hernandez
And I know you and Lee Jay are excited about this. Um... So the Knicks acquired Jose Alvarado from the Pelicans for Dale and Terry and two second-round picks.

00:31:11.93
William Hernandez
And they also got the draft rights to this guy, Latavius Williams, which I don't really know much about that whole situation, but um I got to do some digging onto that. But here's the funny thing, is that the Knicks actually traded for Terry the day before,

00:31:29.37
William Hernandez
when they traded Gershon Yabasol to the Bulls for Terry and and cash considerations. And the reason, at the end of the day, while the Knicks traded for Alvarado is because we found out that Deuce McBride is going to be out for, they're saying, almost the rest of the regular season due to what can be best described as a core muscle injury.

00:31:55.86
William Hernandez
He might have a hernia. I think that's what that means. ah So for those who are unaware, Alvarado was from Brooklyn and he went to Christ the King, the venerable Christ the King high school in Queens before going to Georgia tech.

00:32:14.78
William Hernandez
He was a huge Knicks fan as a kid. So he's coming back home, to the Knicks. And, um, Yeah, listen, eight and I know and you and Lee Jay are thrilled about this in in various ways, but ah give me your take on Alvarado coming to the Knicks.

00:32:32.92
Erik Pimentel
He defense first. That dude is a pesky son of a bitch when it comes. yeah i mean...

00:32:38.42
William Hernandez
Yeah, it seems like he is, yeah.

00:32:40.47
Erik Pimentel
Bro, and and i don't know i think I don't know if I sent you this video, so there there's a ah highlight reel of him just the just stealing the ball.

00:32:41.30
William Hernandez
yeah

00:32:46.81
William Hernandez
Okay. Really?

00:32:49.30
Erik Pimentel
And it's, yeah, I mean, his is they call him Grand Theft Alvarado.

00:32:49.70
William Hernandez
Okay.

00:32:52.94
Erik Pimentel
That's what they call him.

00:32:53.75
William Hernandez
Oh, I like that.

00:32:53.91
Erik Pimentel
so so

00:32:55.22
William Hernandez
I like that. That's good.

00:32:57.37
Erik Pimentel
So he, you know, defensive specialist. You know, he's a guy that's going to bring energy off the bench. Yeah. He scored 12 points the other night against Boston.

00:33:07.67
Erik Pimentel
So, you know, I think I love the move.

00:33:07.62
William Hernandez
Yep. Yep. Yes. Yeah.

00:33:11.90
Erik Pimentel
I love the move even before I heard about the McBride injury. um And I loved it even better after I heard it. So what what this means moving forward, I think Tyler Kolick is going to get less minutes because because I which I'm cool with.

00:33:18.42
William Hernandez
yeah

00:33:24.50
William Hernandez
Yeah. ah Yeah.

00:33:26.04
Erik Pimentel
I don't want him buried. You know, but I want I want Alvarado to play the the the majority of those minutes.

00:33:28.50
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.

00:33:33.58
Erik Pimentel
And I also think this trade is big. Just looking at Detroit and Cade Cunningham. So I think this is a move to help, you know, guard Cade Cunningham in the playoffs and stuff moving forward.

00:33:40.91
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.

00:33:48.00
Erik Pimentel
I can't say anything bad about this move. I love it.

00:33:51.86
William Hernandez
Yeah, the one thing, it's funny you mentioned, it all makes sense now with his nickname. Did you see the one, there was the one highlight that I kept, I must have watched this several times because I had never seen this before.

00:34:02.90
William Hernandez
When the Celtics were inbounding the ball, he was in the corner like hiding.

00:34:07.32
Erik Pimentel
Oh, he does it all the time.

00:34:08.76
William Hernandez
i didn't know that's a thing that he does.

00:34:09.75
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, I'm going to send you that video after we finish your recording.

00:34:11.48
William Hernandez
yeah You should, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:13.14
Erik Pimentel
yeah it's ah it's amazing how many times Yeah.

00:34:14.30
William Hernandez
Like, i was like, that's actually pretty damn smart to do because you you're not even thinking about that. Yeah.

00:34:20.24
Erik Pimentel
It's amazing how many times he gets so he does that. It's unbelievable. Yeah.

00:34:24.52
William Hernandez
That's crazy to me.

00:34:25.31
Erik Pimentel
that's what I mean about, you know, he's just a pesky dude.

00:34:25.32
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:34:27.59
Erik Pimentel
I think he caused like maybe four turnovers or he was part of, you know, of three or four turnovers yesterday. He was, he was pesking, uh, what's his name? Uh, uh, Jared Brown, uh, Jalen Brown.

00:34:38.97
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:34:39.62
Erik Pimentel
Um, he, he was messing with him the whole game, you know?

00:34:40.04
William Hernandez
Jalen Brown. Yeah.

00:34:42.66
Erik Pimentel
So it's, it's a move for, for the playoffs in particular. Um, and then they have a decision to make in a playoffs when McBride comes back.

00:34:48.76
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.

00:34:53.56
Erik Pimentel
Um, And then that's probably when Kolic is going buried. um

00:34:57.94
William Hernandez
a Yeah, I can see that.

00:35:00.69
Erik Pimentel
But yeah, I just, I definitely love the move.

00:35:01.08
William Hernandez
I can definitely see that.

00:35:03.50
Erik Pimentel
And um I just, you know, besides that little bit, that little losing streak that the Knicks went into that everybody was going nuts, except for me and Lee J. We were like, calm the hell down, everybody.

00:35:14.74
William Hernandez
exactly Yeah,

00:35:15.19
Erik Pimentel
um But I just, I just love the fact, the one thing I can say about Mike Brown as a coach, that he's playing guys like, I got to give a shout out to Mohamed Diwara, the rookie that they got from France.

00:35:28.47
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

00:35:29.27
Erik Pimentel
The dude, he's six nine and he's guarding point guards.

00:35:29.41
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

00:35:34.26
Erik Pimentel
He's guarding, you know, big men. And he's going to be a good player.

00:35:36.60
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:35:38.30
Erik Pimentel
they That's another guy I want them to keep playing. I mean, they got him with the 61st pick in the draft. so And he's he's looking really, really good.

00:35:44.21
William Hernandez
Right.

00:35:46.02
Erik Pimentel
You know, um'm I'm getting excited with him, too.

00:35:49.56
William Hernandez
So, as you mentioned, little bit of a losing streak, but the Knicks now have won nine of their last ten. They are tied for second place in the East behind the Pistons.

00:36:02.13
William Hernandez
They're tied with the Celtics. I don't know if you – I love – I don't know. The whole thing with the standings, only three and a half games separates the number six team, which is 76ers.

00:36:12.03
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:36:14.20
William Hernandez
And the number two team, which is the Knicks right now. So everybody's bunched up there ah in the in the East in those first six spots.

00:36:17.50
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:36:23.46
William Hernandez
So it's really important that the Knicks keep on playing the way they're playing and finish. in what You want to finish at least two or three.

00:36:33.78
Erik Pimentel
yeah um

00:36:34.01
William Hernandez
you i don't think you want to drop farther than that. ah

00:36:37.14
Erik Pimentel
two one Obviously, one is where I want to be, but two i'll two is yeah two two is where I'd like to be.

00:36:39.82
William Hernandez
Well, yeah, right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah.

00:36:43.82
Erik Pimentel
But here's a here's a stat that I that i thought of you when I heard this stat. I was like, I got to let Will know this.

00:36:48.71
William Hernandez
Oh, Jesus. This has to do with three-pointers, doesn't it?

00:36:51.86
Erik Pimentel
It does. So Boston only made seven three-pointers last night. Guess how many they shot?

00:36:59.61
William Hernandez
didn't watch the game, so... ah I'm gonna say... 62. Damn. sixty two

00:37:08.21
Erik Pimentel
Well, not damn, not that much. They went seven for 41, bro.

00:37:14.01
William Hernandez
hey um

00:37:15.22
Erik Pimentel
That's a

00:37:15.34
William Hernandez
What's the math on that? 7 for 41. What does that come out to?

00:37:19.13
Erik Pimentel
I don't know.

00:37:19.54
William Hernandez
ah Hold on.

00:37:19.81
Erik Pimentel
What's the percentage on that? Yeah.

00:37:21.24
William Hernandez
I got to do this because it's going to bother me. Where's my calculator app here? You said 7 for 41? 41 divided by 7 equals...

00:37:29.37
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:37:32.98
William Hernandez
No, that's not right. What am I doing here? i don't This is why i'm I used to be a writer. 17%. God. my god

00:37:43.08
Erik Pimentel
That's horrendous.

00:37:45.00
William Hernandez
It's awful.

00:37:46.26
Erik Pimentel
And the rest of the shot, they shot 37% for the game, which horrendous.

00:37:46.24
William Hernandez
That is freaking awful.

00:37:48.92
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:37:50.87
William Hernandez
for For the game.

00:37:51.29
Erik Pimentel
sorry right

00:37:51.78
William Hernandez
Ugh, golly.

00:37:52.09
Erik Pimentel
yeah

00:37:53.87
William Hernandez
That is ugly. Listen, I... How am I going get into Because this is just the way... I think I was watching... I was watching the beginning of the game on Friday before the St. John's game started.

00:38:06.84
William Hernandez
I watched like the first half an hour. And there was that there was one fast break with Landry... and somebody else, and they had a two-on-one.

00:38:19.12
William Hernandez
Landry just, the guy was open underneath the basket, but he just shakes up a three-on-one. I'm like, ah, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

00:38:29.40
Erik Pimentel
Bro, that's the new age NBA.

00:38:29.42
William Hernandez
It's

00:38:31.76
Erik Pimentel
Like a fast break is run, run, stop at the three-point line.

00:38:35.96
William Hernandez
insane.

00:38:36.61
Erik Pimentel
That's the new age fast break.

00:38:39.26
William Hernandez
it's and Talk about leaving points on the table.

00:38:41.85
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

00:38:42.17
William Hernandez
You know? Let's not take the easy fucking layup underneath the basket. We got to shoot a damn three-pointer. Come on, guys. My goodness. Let's see if the Knicks can, um

00:38:55.18
William Hernandez
cannot you know, win a couple of games here to end the to end the um and the first half. Well, they're already past the first half. Let me ask you something before we talk about the Nets quickly.

00:39:08.63
William Hernandez
Any interest in watching any of this stuff this weekend for NBA All-Star Weekend?

00:39:13.43
Erik Pimentel
Hell no.

00:39:14.97
William Hernandez
What was the last time you think you watched, like, the Slant Dunk Contest?

00:39:15.22
Erik Pimentel
Hell no.

00:39:19.67
William Hernandez
Because that used to be a thing. Like, I used to watch it all the time.

00:39:21.68
Erik Pimentel
Bro, it's been a long time, bro. I can't even remember. I think if I had to guess, I would think the last one I saw was when Blake Griffin jumped over that car.

00:39:32.50
William Hernandez
Okay, yep, yep, that was a good one.

00:39:33.78
Erik Pimentel
And I don't know how long ago was that? That was a long time ago.

00:39:36.63
William Hernandez
was a while ago. Yeah, it's been a while.

00:39:37.91
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. yeah Yeah. That's something, man. I was it's funny because I was watching some highlights, you know, because the slam dunk contest is coming up. They were slowing some old school stuff. And it was like, man, so much better back then.

00:39:48.34
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:39:50.22
Erik Pimentel
And and the thing is, is like. The slam dunk contest is something where you've seen pretty much every dunk somebody could do.

00:39:58.20
William Hernandez
Yeah, absolutely. You're right. Yeah.

00:40:00.47
Erik Pimentel
You know, now it's all about props. Like, what am I going to jump over?

00:40:03.10
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:40:04.28
Erik Pimentel
Who am I going to jump over?

00:40:04.47
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:40:05.56
Erik Pimentel
And to me, it's like, come on, enough is enough.

00:40:05.98
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:40:08.25
Erik Pimentel
You can't, unless you're going to jump off the the scoreboard or something, you're not doing anything that anybody else ever did. Come on.

00:40:15.03
William Hernandez
Exactly. That's a good point. Yeah. It's good. don't know. Like i have to admit, I'm a little bit intrigued by how they're to the format this year with it being in USA versus the world.

00:40:25.94
William Hernandez
ah You're welcome for that NBA. Cause Lee J and I talked about that last year after, The NHL did the same thing with their All-Star thing. So I'm a little bit intrigued by that, but I don't know.

00:40:38.63
William Hernandez
Like, I know Kat's... What is Kat Brunson and who else are going to be like in the...

00:40:45.52
Erik Pimentel
Allen Houston.

00:40:46.76
William Hernandez
Allen Houston, right? They're going to be in that challenge thing, but I don't know.

00:40:47.86
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:40:54.16
William Hernandez
going to be really fucking bored this weekend to watch that I mean, I don't have a date. It's Valentine's Day. So that's out of the question. There's something on TV this weekend. Oh, I'll probably watch the AEW because they're gonna be in Australia.

00:41:10.20
William Hernandez
um But I'm probably not going to watch that game, the game on Sunday. I might tune in just to kind of see what it's about. But I don't know.

00:41:21.39
William Hernandez
It's just, it's not the same anymore.

00:41:23.96
Erik Pimentel
Let's do a dial-a-date for Will for Saturday, please.

00:41:26.23
William Hernandez
yeah don't know.

00:41:28.25
Erik Pimentel
Somebody call in. Yeah.

00:41:32.09
William Hernandez
You kidding me? Bro, I, I, it's Saturday night to go out is awful. In general, it's awful.

00:41:42.33
William Hernandez
Can you imagine you Valentine's Day being on a Saturday ah this year?

00:41:45.91
Erik Pimentel
Bro, I'll tell you this. So i was, me and my wife, we don't really do the Valentine's. I mean, we go out to dinner so often that it's like whatever.

00:41:52.54
William Hernandez
yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:54.36
Erik Pimentel
But I figured, okay, we haven't done nothing in a while.

00:41:54.66
William Hernandez
yeah, yeah.

00:41:57.08
Erik Pimentel
So I'm going to take her out to dinner. But bro, any of these nice fancy restaurants around here, reservations all gone.

00:41:59.84
William Hernandez
Nice.

00:42:04.09
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah, they're done. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:42:05.27
Erik Pimentel
They're done. So we just said, you know what?

00:42:06.25
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:42:07.70
Erik Pimentel
We're going to go out Friday night and that's it.

00:42:09.46
William Hernandez
Yeah, there you go. That's that's exactly what you do. Yeah, I've done that.

00:42:12.34
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

00:42:13.78
William Hernandez
yeah When I um when I've been in relationships, we have done that. We've gone out like the day before the day after because it's like it's ridiculous, dude.

00:42:21.21
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:42:22.70
William Hernandez
It's.

00:42:22.79
Erik Pimentel
Because a lot of times it falls on during the week.

00:42:22.87
William Hernandez
Right.

00:42:24.53
Erik Pimentel
You know, this is the first time in a while that I remember it being on a Saturday.

00:42:25.75
William Hernandez
Right.

00:42:27.90
Erik Pimentel
So the combination of it being on a Saturday, plus it's a Valentine's Day, everybody's going out.

00:42:33.69
William Hernandez
By the way, next year, the Valentine's Day is going be on the same Super Bowl. How many divorces do you think are going to happen post Super Bowl next year?

00:42:37.47
Erik Pimentel
Nice.

00:42:41.51
Erik Pimentel
Listen, plan ahead, guys. Do it on a Saturday. Plan ahead.

00:42:47.83
William Hernandez
That's exactly what you got to do. That's exactly what you have to do next year. Holy shit. All right. I don't really have much to say about the Nets, but here here's the thing I don't understand. And I don't know. Maybe you can help me figure this out because I i don't i don't know. they made They made some minor moves. Honestly, it's not even worth getting into, to be quite fucking honest. But this whole thing with Cam Thomas, right?

00:43:10.33
William Hernandez
They waived him, you know which is crazy to think about. But we know what's happening here.

00:43:18.26
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:43:18.36
William Hernandez
So there were there were two things that I was reading about why this happened. Because I really want to see, like, what was the reason behind this? So I came up with these two things. Number one, they really couldn't find the trade partner, which I'm, i'm to be honest with you, surprised. and And I wonder if it's because of the fact that he's been streaky the whole year. Listen, he missed 20 games early in the year. He had the bad hamstring.

00:43:46.84
William Hernandez
And it took him a while to get going. But it's crazy because you look at some of his box scores. He's had games where he scored as many as 41 points. He did that against San Antonio earlier this season. Then he's had games where yeah he has scored zero points.

00:44:01.69
William Hernandez
That happened against the Pacers. And then against the Knicks, he had a five-point game. Which is like, what ah what a, you know, not to make fun of it, but the kind of bipolar situation there.

00:44:13.66
William Hernandez
Number two, one less talented player means the Nets can tank more.

00:44:20.99
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:44:21.85
William Hernandez
And bro, i don't know I don't know if you keep on hearing this, but all I keep on reading about is how deep the and NBA draft is supposed to be this year. That there are a lot of guys that are going to be coming out of college that are going to make this draft especially deep.

00:44:37.34
William Hernandez
And all we've been hearing about the Nets the past few seasons is, you know, stocking up on fucking traffic, traffic, traffic, traffic. But it's like, bro, at what point do you have to say that the rebuild is over and you have to actually start winning games?

00:44:58.90
William Hernandez
Like, I don't understand what is going on here. I mean, as ah as a Knicks fan, you know, and you see what the Nets are doing. i mean, like, what's your take on on the plan?

00:45:09.71
William Hernandez
Because I don't even know if they have a plan half the time, to be quite honest with you.

00:45:11.77
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. I think, no, I think you're right about them tanking, you know, obviously. i just think that it's, I kind of compare it to when the Knicks were in the doldrums where, No major free agent wanted to come to the Knicks.

00:45:26.36
Erik Pimentel
So they were just signing like they were signing like the average dude or they were signing washed up veterans and things like that.

00:45:26.81
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:45:35.10
Erik Pimentel
I think what the Nets it's I like the idea of building getting the youth. I get that.

00:45:40.29
William Hernandez
I do too. Yes. Right. Yes.

00:45:42.07
Erik Pimentel
But you but you need to find that one free agent doesn't have to be a top tier free agent, but it needs to be somebody at least like an all star, let's say.

00:45:48.09
William Hernandez
Right.

00:45:52.12
William Hernandez
Sure.

00:45:53.14
Erik Pimentel
to To say, okay, I believe in this team. I'm going sign with this team. And then build that person around these all of these guys you gonna draft. That's the only way I see them getting out of this because it's you got to find the right guy. like the The Knicks struggled with that for freaking years. I mean, they tried to get LeBron. LeBron said no.

00:46:12.58
Erik Pimentel
Dwyane Wade said no. All of these guys, you know. So, you know, and then they had to settle for Amari Stottlemyre, which Amari Stottlemyre, great player, but he was washed when he came to the Knicks. He had one and a half good seasons, and then that was pretty much it.

00:46:26.33
Erik Pimentel
So you need to find that, you know, or even a guy that's that's not an all-star yet, but you could see him rising year for year by year to where on the Nets he could take that next step.

00:46:26.39
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:46:35.30
William Hernandez
Right.

00:46:38.34
Erik Pimentel
That's the only way I see it, but as far as a plan, Right now, their plan is to tank pretty much, man.

00:46:44.14
William Hernandez
No, I know. And that was like, people were getting upset in the beginning of the season. And these these these idiots I i follow on on X on on Twitter, these these fan accounts that, because they actually started off the season, not bad.

00:46:59.00
William Hernandez
They were winning a pretty decent amount of games and a decent clip. And I was thinking, oh shit, you know, maybe they actually might win 25, 30 games. But right now, they're 14 37.

00:47:13.27
William Hernandez
I would be shocked if they hit 20 wins this year.

00:47:17.35
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah.

00:47:17.90
William Hernandez
Shocked. So I just, again, I don't, if you're looking at the the worst records in the NBA right now, the Sacramento Kings are 12-42.

00:47:19.26
Erik Pimentel
e

00:47:28.66
William Hernandez
The Pacers are thirteen and forty and we know they've, you know, this guy's out, whatever. that's It's a lost season, whatever. Next, the Pelicans are 14 and, actually, the Wizards, 14-38.

00:47:41.78
William Hernandez
fourteen and thirty eight And then we know why Davis is like sitting out for the rest of the year. ah Pelicans are 14 and 40. The Nets are 14 and 37. then you got Jazz at 16 and 37.

00:47:55.96
William Hernandez
and then you got the jazz at sixteen and thirty seven and the Mavericks at 19-33. I feel like at least the Mavericks are kind of going someplace with like a guy with Cooper Flagg, you know?

00:48:07.13
William Hernandez
Whereas the Nets don't have that at all.

00:48:09.69
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:48:10.39
William Hernandez
So I just don't – listen, it's funny because LeeJay earlier today texted me if I wanted to go to the Nets-Knicks game in March.

00:48:21.26
William Hernandez
It's on a Friday night. But it's during the NCAA tournament. I'm like, bro, St. John's in the tournament, which it's going to be at this point.

00:48:29.38
Erik Pimentel
Hmm.

00:48:29.85
William Hernandez
And we'll talk about them a little bit. I'm not going anywhere. going to be home watching St. John's, you know?

00:48:36.79
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

00:48:37.14
William Hernandez
um So, and again, i would rather do that than watch the Nets get fucking blown out by 40 points i guess against the Nets. It's just like, come on, man.

00:48:47.38
William Hernandez
I don't know, bro. I just... it's It's frustrating for me because i i haven't I have not watched one Nets game this year because I and know what I'm watching. Like, i i see what is happening here.

00:48:59.00
William Hernandez
And to me, that is not entertaining at all. So, I don't know, dude.

00:49:03.38
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah. yeah yeah They just, like I said, you just need that one guy to say, I'll go play for you or trade for a guy like that.

00:49:05.94
William Hernandez
It's frustrating.

00:49:11.22
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:49:13.12
Erik Pimentel
And hopefully he stays, you know what I'm saying?

00:49:15.00
William Hernandez
Right, right, yeah.

00:49:15.24
Erik Pimentel
So, I mean, again, going back to like comparing it when the Knicks were were terrible. they traded for Carmelo and they traded a boatload of people for Carmelo, which at the time people were not, didn't really like, cause they gave, they, you know, they gave up like half their team, but none of those guys ended up being any good.

00:49:28.57
William Hernandez
Yeah, i remember that. Yeah.

00:49:33.43
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:49:33.59
Erik Pimentel
So, but you know, you had Carmelo there, you paired him with, with Omari and they were, they had that one good year. And then after that, Omari got, got, wasn't the same.

00:49:44.25
Erik Pimentel
And then it was just Carmelo and a bunch of nobodies. So that's where you run into the issue where you got to either trade a guy trade for a star or, ah you know, close to being a star and then pair him with these young rookies. And then hopefully those guys stay on the team but or you don't want to trade them. Like when they did, when they traded, what's his face to the Knicks?

00:50:08.31
Erik Pimentel
um

00:50:08.59
William Hernandez
Right.

00:50:09.21
Erik Pimentel
I can't remember his name now, but you know what about? You know, they traded him to the Knicks when, when they were trying to build, know, point the The shooting guard for the Knicks. I can't forget his name now.

00:50:19.71
William Hernandez
Oh, Bridges?

00:50:20.64
Erik Pimentel
Bridges, there you go.

00:50:21.11
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:50:22.62
Erik Pimentel
Mikkel Bridges was a good player for them. Then they traded him to the Knicks because they were trying to tank.

00:50:24.86
William Hernandez
No, he was.

00:50:28.19
Erik Pimentel
So it's kind of like the same thing they're doing again.

00:50:31.80
William Hernandez
Yeah, I just don't know.

00:50:35.65
William Hernandez
don't know who's even out there. that would be a guy that you would even go after, you know?

00:50:41.02
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, you have it'll have to be I mean, you got you're going to have some good draft picks. You had a bunch of draft picks last year, which they didn't trade none of them, which. You they're going to have to get they're going to have to get creative.

00:50:50.36
William Hernandez
Yeah. Which I don't understand at all.

00:50:54.62
Erik Pimentel
going to have to get creative with a trade or, you know, maybe get a third team involved to get somebody that's good that wants to come here and stay here.

00:51:03.71
William Hernandez
I'm looking at a list of free agents that are coming up after the season.

00:51:10.82
William Hernandez
don't, there's nobody really here. And again, listen, I'm not the guy to be, you know, doing this because i don't really watch a lot of of the NBA, but I know who the superstars are.

00:51:25.88
William Hernandez
Well, J-Mon, J-Mon Green's going to be a free agent. There you go. but please

00:51:30.20
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:51:30.58
William Hernandez
he's He's got a player option. So potential free agent.

00:51:32.51
Erik Pimentel
He's going to come to the Knicks and mess with Lee J.

00:51:37.75
William Hernandez
But there's like there's not like one person here that's like standing out to me at all.

00:51:43.02
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:51:45.31
William Hernandez
Donich, who has a player option, that would be interesting if he hit the free market again. i doubt that's going to happen, though.

00:51:52.48
Erik Pimentel
No. I mean, from from the list I'm looking at, yeah, you don't have much, man.

00:51:58.87
William Hernandez
um tell That's what I mean, yeah.

00:51:59.67
Erik Pimentel
um Honestly, to one of the best ones is is a Knicks free agent, Mitchell Robinson, and i don't want him going anywhere.

00:52:05.17
William Hernandez
Yep, I see that. Yep. And Bridges is a free agent too, ironically.

00:52:08.06
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:52:08.91
William Hernandez
So, yeah, dude, I don't know, man.

00:52:09.21
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

00:52:12.66
William Hernandez
It's just, yeah, i'm I'm going through this every single team. Oh, yeah, let's get let's get Kevin Durant back. Fuck out of here. That guy sucks. ah Uh, yeah, bro.

00:52:25.59
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, mean, you got a couple of good veterans, Tobias Harris, Jordan Clarkson, who's on the Knicks now.

00:52:29.30
William Hernandez
Yep, yep, I saw that.

00:52:30.55
Erik Pimentel
um

00:52:31.26
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:52:31.58
Erik Pimentel
But yeah, you got some veterans here, but not nobody really sticks out.

00:52:37.02
William Hernandez
ah Yeah, I don't know, man. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. I'll be curious to see what happens this offseason.

00:52:44.82
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:52:45.97
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, it's not a good free agent class this year.

00:52:45.98
William Hernandez
All right.

00:52:48.27
Erik Pimentel
do You know, you probably could punt until next year or make a trade.

00:52:52.53
William Hernandez
that's what I mean. They're probably – mean, how much longer are you going to stock up on these damn – these picks and these guys you drafted?

00:52:59.90
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

00:53:01.47
William Hernandez
i just They all can't play.

00:53:03.56
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

00:53:03.99
William Hernandez
We say that all the time here. All right. Halftime. The reason I wanted to bring this up, you can imagine why.

00:53:13.50
William Hernandez
Because in this whole situation, I'm not going to spend too much time here, but you can tell me from your perspective, like, I have to imagine where you are. It's a similar situation. So what i'm talking what am I talking about?

00:53:25.62
William Hernandez
As all you guys know, my car's in a shop right now after... I'm not even going to get into it. A snowplow hit me. On the property.

00:53:34.21
Erik Pimentel
Thank you.

00:53:34.92
William Hernandez
I think I've been over this whole thing last week. I can't i can't even remember at this point. um So I've got a car rental until tomorrow. And then I was talking, I was just, we Eric and I were just talking about this before we hopped on about the fact that there's this app called Turo that is basically, it's like an Airbnb for cars. People put up their, know, if they have an extra car, they make it available for like a rental. And it is generally much cheaper than going to any of these car rental places. And I actually found that it was one, again, mentioned this aite ah to Eric beforehand.

00:54:15.41
William Hernandez
There's an SUV for rent that I can get for almost a week and a half at just a little bit more of a price than I would have gotten it at a car rental.

00:54:26.97
William Hernandez
for this car rental that I just did for four days. So, and they give you ah a discount. The longer you rent it for, you get like a $50 discount. So for a week, I would, I would get like $50 off anyway.

00:54:40.38
William Hernandez
Up here, there might, there are buses that you can take, but I am not taking a bus to the gym. That's not happening. This is not New York city. Like the bus comes once every like 45 minutes around here.

00:54:53.78
William Hernandez
And then there are Ubers as well. But the Ubers are a little bit more expensive up here than I would like. And then there is like, I guess you can call them like Gypsy Cab situation where they are, um you know, maybe 10 bucks to get to where I need to go.

00:55:10.87
William Hernandez
But I can't find a number for any of these people. I see them on the streets over here. And bro, let me tell you something. These guys' cars are so like wrecked. That I don't want to be in. Dude, I'm serious. every single Every single one of these yellow cab companies that I see in Newburgh, they've got some kind of major dent.

00:55:29.98
William Hernandez
Fucking guy's got a bumper falling off. They drive like maniacs around here. it's just It's just ridiculous. Not having a car... in a suburban area like this sucks.

00:55:42.68
Erik Pimentel
Thank you.

00:55:44.50
William Hernandez
It is fucking awful. And like, i'm I'm fortunate because I could afford to do a rental and my downstairs neighbor was like, hey, you know, because she works from home too.

00:55:57.72
William Hernandez
was like, hey, if you want to use my car during the day to like go get your groceries and whatnot, but that's fine. You know, i I trust you or whatever. But it's like, I want to do that. you know like I appreciate it. Trust me.

00:56:12.76
William Hernandez
I appreciate the gesture, but I just don't want to do it. It just kind of reminds me, if you live in certain places in this country, and if you don't have a car, you're fucked.

00:56:24.56
William Hernandez
Like completely, completely fucked. I have to imagine it's the same thing in Buford where you are.

00:56:29.82
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, so out here and in in in the Atlanta metro area, they have ah ah a train service called MARTA. So MARTA stands for Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority.

00:56:37.85
William Hernandez
Marta, yes. Yeah.

00:56:41.70
Erik Pimentel
That's what it stands for. um The only thing is, is that MARTA, where I live in Gwinnett County,

00:56:42.97
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:56:47.61
Erik Pimentel
So laws have been, they've tried to pass laws to have MARTA come into Gwinnett County, but again it keeps getting denied.

00:56:54.36
William Hernandez
Oh, really? Okay. Interesting.

00:56:56.42
Erik Pimentel
Like nobody Gwinnett County wants to have MARTA come down here.

00:56:59.61
William Hernandez
Interesting.

00:57:00.50
Erik Pimentel
And honestly, i see why. I know why, because living in a suburban area, it would bring some people that you just don't want in the suburban area.

00:57:11.54
Erik Pimentel
Let's just put it that way. but

00:57:14.08
William Hernandez
Damn.

00:57:15.22
Erik Pimentel
So,

00:57:15.26
William Hernandez
You fucking racist motherfuckers.

00:57:16.50
Erik Pimentel
yeah No, no, no, no.

00:57:17.44
William Hernandez
Sure. Yeah.

00:57:19.70
Erik Pimentel
no Not like that. Not like that. But I know that when I first moved down here to Georgia in 2013, I kind of I knew, OK, I need to have a reliable vehicle.

00:57:30.46
Erik Pimentel
oh

00:57:30.46
William Hernandez
sure yeah

00:57:31.74
Erik Pimentel
And that's when I heard about the whole martyr thing, how every year they try to pass the law to have it go to Gwinnett. Gwinnett County doesn't have it. Cobb County doesn't have the train. They do have like Greyhound buses that like you could you could drive your car to the parking lot and then take a bus into Atlanta.

00:57:48.72
William Hernandez
Yep. Yep. Yeah, they got that around here too. Yeah, yeah.

00:57:52.34
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, you could do that. But I honestly I mean, got to know where you live. If you're going to live in a suburban area, this is the stuff you got to have to deal with. um So I kind of.

00:58:03.77
Erik Pimentel
I kind of like i like I kind of like being away from stuff, so I don't mind that. I remember the last year that I well, the last six or seven years that I lived in New York where I moved to um Mill Basin, which is like on the way on the other side ah of of Brooklyn by the Marine Park area, stuff like that.

00:58:17.89
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah.

00:58:22.55
William Hernandez
Yeah, there's no trains out there.

00:58:23.13
Erik Pimentel
they would there's no trains out there.

00:58:25.59
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:58:25.84
Erik Pimentel
there's no There's no trains out there. There's buses, but there's there no trains. And I remember there were times where my vehicle wasn't working well and I used to work in the Bronx. um

00:58:36.15
William Hernandez
Holy shit.

00:58:37.21
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, so it was, so I had to, a couple of times I had to take a bus to a train, to then another train, to then another train. but

00:58:46.36
William Hernandez
Damn, bro.

00:58:47.67
Erik Pimentel
But i did i did I only did that for about a week and I was like, I am not doing this. i ended I ended up finding a friend a co-worker that lived ah like 10 minutes from me.

00:59:00.18
Erik Pimentel
and he And he was already like picking up guys and we would pay him.

00:59:00.21
William Hernandez
Oh, nice. Okay.

00:59:06.10
Erik Pimentel
Instead of having to pay MTA, we would give him like 40 bucks for the week.

00:59:10.94
William Hernandez
Yeah, right.

00:59:11.54
Erik Pimentel
and he And he had a minivan. So he would pile on like five people and we would all go to work at the same time.

00:59:15.10
William Hernandez
um Nice.

00:59:16.27
Erik Pimentel
So he was making his money and it was easy. I didn't want I didn't need to get on no no train and transfer 5000 times to get to work.

00:59:22.67
William Hernandez
Right.

00:59:22.96
Erik Pimentel
So, yeah, you got to find a way. And I know this is a this is ah definitely a thing. When New Yorkers move down here to Georgia or any, you know, suburban area, a lot of the complaints that I hear that people they're not used to that.

00:59:38.04
Erik Pimentel
Then I used to, they want to be able to get on a train to go to their doctor's appointments or whatever.

00:59:38.20
William Hernandez
Yeah, right. Yeah.

00:59:43.86
Erik Pimentel
And when you come down here, you got to have a vehicle or else you're screwed.

00:59:43.96
William Hernandez
Yeah.

00:59:47.55
Erik Pimentel
You're not going anywhere.

00:59:49.59
William Hernandez
Yeah. It's crazy, bro. It's like, um, the, the one, the one good thing around where I am is that you can easily, if you want to, if you don't have a car,

01:00:01.02
William Hernandez
You can easily, there is a shuttle bus that goes to the commuter rail station, the Metro North, and then that gets you down, that gets you down to the city. So, like, I feel like worse comes to worse if I don't have a car this weekend, which I'm probably not going to have one. I haven't decided yet what I'm going to, the timing of all this. But, like, if worse comes to worse, if I get really bored,

01:00:25.14
William Hernandez
and I need something to do, I can go hop on the shuttle bus, grab the commuter rail, and then go to any place I want to along that um along that line.

01:00:35.26
William Hernandez
The problem is when I get back. If I get back too late, guess what?

01:00:37.45
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:00:40.27
William Hernandez
That shuttle bus is not running, and then I got to fight for a Lyft or an Uber at that time.

01:00:42.01
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:00:46.54
William Hernandez
But, um yeah, dude, it just it just makes me... I was thinking about it when one though I got a Lyft to go to the... um to go to the Enterprise place to pick up the car, and I'm talking to the lip driver about, like, yeah, you're you're you're fucked.

01:01:01.83
William Hernandez
You're completely fucked up here if you don't have a car, so... ah Yeah, it's crazy.

01:01:06.94
Erik Pimentel
And it's funny because over here, like, and it's all, I know what it is. It's all about advertising where you live and things like that.

01:01:13.50
William Hernandez
Sure.

01:01:13.65
Erik Pimentel
So I live, guys, just giving you a kind of picture where i live.

01:01:13.82
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:18.65
Erik Pimentel
So I live in Beaufort, Georgia, which is about, on a good day, it's about a 30 minute drive into Atlanta. um On a bad day is like an hour and a half. um

01:01:29.14
William Hernandez
It's ridiculous.

01:01:30.42
Erik Pimentel
But it's funny how they advertise Buford and some of these other towns as Metro Atlanta. We are not Metro Atlanta.

01:01:37.94
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:01:39.70
Erik Pimentel
If there's no trains or buses that come down this way, how could you be considered Metro Atlanta?

01:01:39.86
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:01:44.92
William Hernandez
Yeah, that's a good point.

01:01:45.37
Erik Pimentel
we're We're a suburb of Georgia and that's all we are.

01:01:45.96
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:01:48.92
Erik Pimentel
But, you know, these real estate companies and stuff, they want to they want to say, oh, yeah, you live in Metro Atlanta because you you could drive into Atlanta.

01:01:48.92
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:01:56.22
Erik Pimentel
Come on, give me a break.

01:01:56.25
William Hernandez
Yeah, right.

01:01:57.18
Erik Pimentel
ah

01:01:57.13
William Hernandez
Yeah, that's probably the reason why. i mean, to think about this.

01:01:59.13
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:02:00.33
William Hernandez
it probably it probably adds some value to your house only because, you know, if if you're in a certain driving distance of a major city, i would imagine that that's like a ah you know, that's something that's like that that's an advantage for you.

01:02:09.18
Erik Pimentel
Oh, of course, yeah.

01:02:15.48
William Hernandez
But, um yeah.

01:02:15.58
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah.

01:02:17.32
William Hernandez
You know, I don't i wouldn't change anything. i will I guess I will say that the one thing is the one mistake I made when I moved here is that I didn't change my my car insurance to include the rental because I was living in Boston at the time when I got the car. And it's like, oh, if I'm ah without my car in Boston, no big deal because everything is around me within walking distance, supermarket, gym, that's all I really need.

01:02:46.37
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:02:46.42
William Hernandez
But I should have made that change when I moved up here and I didn't do it. By the way, I finally changed the address for the car, right?

01:02:55.26
Erik Pimentel
and Insurance went down.

01:02:55.58
William Hernandez
My insurance went up $100.

01:02:57.53
Erik Pimentel
Up.

01:02:57.52
William Hernandez
Up. Because it'll look, it's New York, baby!

01:02:58.68
Erik Pimentel
Oh, shit. Okay.

01:03:02.26
Erik Pimentel
That's true. That's true. That's true.

01:03:04.47
William Hernandez
It went up $100. I'm like, you gotta be shitting me.

01:03:06.82
Erik Pimentel
Jeez. Yeah. Yeah.

01:03:08.73
William Hernandez
But the thing was, i had't I had to change it because um they were asking me where I was going to get the the repair done. I'm like, oh, fuck.

01:03:19.02
William Hernandez
I had been kind of like, you know, not wanting to do that to try to get the cheaper insurance, but nope.

01:03:23.90
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

01:03:24.73
William Hernandez
They got my ass. So thanks a lot, New York.

01:03:26.94
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:03:27.69
William Hernandez
Appreciate it

01:03:28.15
Erik Pimentel
One way or another, they got

01:03:30.30
William Hernandez
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. All right.

01:03:36.14
William Hernandez
We're moving along here. We don't have to stay on St. John's for too long, but I will say that they had a big game on Friday.

01:03:48.64
William Hernandez
i don't know if you saw any of this, um but they,

01:03:51.87
Erik Pimentel
Saw some of the highlights, but I didn't see the game.

01:03:54.42
William Hernandez
Um, yeah, you know, this was, this was, i know we don't talk about St. John's a whole lot, but I figured they did beat, they did beat UConn on Friday night. It was a big game.

01:04:05.71
William Hernandez
UConn was ranked them with three at the time and St. John's won 81 to 72. And that snapped the Huskies 18 game, uh, winning streak and, It also gave Rick Pitino win number 900, tying Roy Williams for third all-time in Division one men's coaching wins.

01:04:29.98
William Hernandez
and This was, guys, if you've watched Big East basketball, and I'm talking about like old-school Big East basketball, this was this type game in the beginning. And it just it's weird to me because – and this has happened to St. John's under Patino.

01:04:46.78
William Hernandez
And you could probably speak to this in some way watching the Dukies because know they lost to North Carolina on ah on Saturday on the last second shot. But I always feel like Duke, North Carolina, right?

01:05:02.78
William Hernandez
St. John's-UConn game. I'm trying to think of like another big college basketball rivalry. ah

01:05:13.10
Erik Pimentel
Oh, shit.

01:05:13.46
William Hernandez
Even Kentucky-Duke in some ways, maybe.

01:05:15.00
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:05:15.70
William Hernandez
you know I feel like guys get up more for those games than other ones because they realize the importance. And then when you watch them play against other teams, they're it's other that It's not that they're not as excited, but you just don't see the same type of energy there.

01:05:35.10
William Hernandez
I mean, is that is that fair to say, you think, when you want when you're watching some of these games?

01:05:37.21
Erik Pimentel
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's only fair. I mean... you go you get You build on these rivalries. you know You learn it from the time you put on the uniform.

01:05:48.46
Erik Pimentel
It's like, we can't lose it this team. you know it's for Football is Michigan, Ohio State, things like that.

01:05:50.74
William Hernandez
Yeah, exactly.

01:05:54.78
Erik Pimentel
It's like, you got Michigan, you got to shitty year.

01:05:55.22
William Hernandez
Right, yeah.

01:05:57.34
Erik Pimentel
As long as you beat Ohio State, we good. you know So I'm sure it's the same way with Duke, UNC, and St.

01:06:00.52
William Hernandez
Exactly. Yeah, that's true.

01:06:05.81
Erik Pimentel
John's, UConn, and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, I could definitely see where that there's some added energy, added pep in the step to each team. i could see that.

01:06:15.48
William Hernandez
Yeah, and you can see, like, within the first minute, I'm like, okay, it's going to be this type of game for St.

01:06:22.28
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:06:22.83
William Hernandez
John's because I could tell, like, the energy was completely different, and I'm like, damn, they need to play like that The rest of the way, I think, because look, I think right now, if you had to put a gun to my head, they're probably anywhere between a number three and number six seed in the tournament right now.

01:06:41.08
Erik Pimentel
Where are they ranked right now? 17.

01:06:42.77
William Hernandez
They're ranked number 17 in the country.

01:06:44.82
Erik Pimentel
seventeen Okay.

01:06:45.43
William Hernandez
Yeah. And both polls, they're 17. And don't don't forget, when they started the season, they were five. There was a lot of hype for this team coming in here. And i will take back what I said at the beginning because I can admit what I'm wrong.

01:07:01.05
William Hernandez
And I think I remember complaining about them playing such a tough schedule to start the year. And I thought, why would you do this? Why would you do this? Why not gradually build yourself up to where maybe you're playing these major top teams in the beginning of December right before the conference?

01:07:20.31
William Hernandez
But what did they do?

01:07:21.04
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:07:22.20
William Hernandez
They played Kentucky. They played in these tournaments. They played, think, in two different tournaments. And guess what Patino said on site on Friday after the game? He was like, those games, even though we lost and we were struggling, they put us to where we are now because we learned our lesson from those losses.

01:07:43.38
Erik Pimentel
yeah

01:07:43.99
William Hernandez
So I take it back. Take back what I said. I take back what I said because the Hall of Fame coach ah knows better than than this idiot over here, this dummy over here. But listen, if they can, I don't know if they're to the table the rest of the way out.

01:08:03.99
William Hernandez
they They play Xavier tomorrow, and then Saturday – They got to play Providence in Providence.

01:08:11.02
Erik Pimentel
That's always a tough game.

01:08:11.95
William Hernandez
And that, it yeah, that is, listen, guys, I've seen two St.

01:08:12.06
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:08:16.07
William Hernandez
John's Providence games in Providence. Those people are fucking brutal. And they hate St. John's. Like, hate them. It's that New York City hate, bro.

01:08:27.58
William Hernandez
It's like, it's that New England against, it's that Boston, even though the Providence, it's that Boston versus New York shit.

01:08:27.96
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:08:35.29
William Hernandez
And they fucking hate, they hate Patino too. he cause Don't forget, he coached there at some point. But they still, they hate his ass over there now. So, listen, that Saturday's going to be a tough game. I was actually thinking about, if I have the car, I'll have to see. I was actually thinking about going to that game.

01:08:50.90
William Hernandez
um It's like, i don't know, like two and a half hour drive from here. So, we'll see. But, you know, i don't know if they're going to win out. the rest of the way. But I think if they keep up this consistency, they can probably be like a number six seed. And they could probably get to as high as number three if maybe they win out and then get themselves to the Big East tournament like championship game.

01:09:16.18
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:09:16.22
William Hernandez
Because it's probably going to come against UConn.

01:09:18.70
Erik Pimentel
I think a good sign, because I heard this on the radio today, was that the crowd was pretty much, it was like an eighty twenty St.

01:09:25.24
William Hernandez
Yes!

01:09:25.36
Erik Pimentel
John's

01:09:25.76
William Hernandez
Yeah!

01:09:26.49
Erik Pimentel
Which they were surprised about because they were like, no normally St.

01:09:26.84
William Hernandez
yeah Yes!

01:09:29.92
Erik Pimentel
John's, I mean, the Garden holds like 18,000, 19,000.

01:09:33.08
William Hernandez
Yes, yeah.

01:09:33.34
Erik Pimentel
Normally St. John's would get a good 10,000, 11,000. But then the rest, the other eight would be the, you know, UConn.

01:09:36.12
William Hernandez
Right. Yes. Well, UConn, yes.

01:09:40.25
Erik Pimentel
So so they they were a lot more St.

01:09:41.02
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah.

01:09:42.96
Erik Pimentel
John's fans, which is a good sign.

01:09:44.60
William Hernandez
No, it it was. And listen, we've we've said it. Last last year was special, especially in New York City basketball, because we all know what the Knicks did. And St. John's...

01:09:57.08
William Hernandez
did things last year. Listen, they lost in the second round. Suck. we We know that. But they won the Big East Tournament Championship, which they hadn't done in like 20-something years. Bro, when when St. John's and the Knicks are playing well at the same time, that garden is crazy.

01:10:16.02
William Hernandez
I don't think people like realize the connection there when both of those teams are playing really well. They were sold out Friday. right they They sold out that building. And like you said, even the announcers made a comment. They were like, it's a lot of there's a lot of St. John's fans here. And for those who don't know, those UConn motherfuckers, they travel well.

01:10:38.89
Erik Pimentel
yeah

01:10:39.34
William Hernandez
They're very much like the Kentucky fans that travel very well.

01:10:43.09
Erik Pimentel
bro i'll never forget the game that me and you went to in 99 it was the duke st john's game bro i never it wasn't i think that game went into overtime bro i'll never forget i mean duke had a monster squad it was i think jay williams was on that team el elton brand was on that team

01:10:49.50
William Hernandez
yeah!

01:10:53.18
William Hernandez
It did. ya Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:59.89
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yep. Yep.

01:11:02.74
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, that that was a and and that was a great game. I think, you know, it was at that point, and it's it's the best basketball game I've ever been to. I only been to two basketball games. And they're both college games, by the way.

01:11:11.75
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

01:11:13.66
Erik Pimentel
um

01:11:14.01
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:11:14.30
Erik Pimentel
and And that was an amazing game. I still to this day talk about it sometimes.

01:11:18.20
William Hernandez
Yeah, dude, that was... um I don't think I've ever explained this on the show before, but... So when When I really got into... but Basketball was the last sport that I got into.

01:11:30.04
William Hernandez
So was a St. John's fan because they were always being shown on TV, but I just gravitated towards that Duke squad, especially that was the year when they, you know, Christian Layton with the fucking the shot against them against Kentucky. So, like, for a long time, i was more of a Duke fan than a St. John's basketball fan.

01:11:54.10
William Hernandez
So they gained that Lee J. Salkinsu, us two idiots sitting in the student section of St. John's at the

01:12:02.85
Erik Pimentel
We're the only two in the student section. proitude

01:12:07.77
William Hernandez
Which is fucking insane.

01:12:10.15
Erik Pimentel
To me, i didn't it didn't bother me at all because I've been a Duke fan my whole life.

01:12:10.30
William Hernandez
Oh, my God.

01:12:14.23
William Hernandez
Right.

01:12:14.52
Erik Pimentel
but But folks, Will wrote for the St.

01:12:14.63
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:17.45
Erik Pimentel
John's newspaper.

01:12:18.33
William Hernandez
Yes, I did.

01:12:18.90
Erik Pimentel
hey yeah He's going for

01:12:20.25
William Hernandez
Yes. Yeah. And I was going for, dude. Hey, hey, that shows you you don't have any favoritism, right? Bro, I got a lot of shit for that, dude.

01:12:28.15
Erik Pimentel
i was like, how is this going to work out? I'm sure you did.

01:12:31.85
William Hernandez
You have no idea. i got a lot. When I walked into that newspaper office on Monday, I got a lot of shit for that. Holy God. It's funny. It is funny, though, because it's like,

01:12:46.78
William Hernandez
know i don't know what I don't know at what point did I just stop watching Duke.

01:12:54.71
William Hernandez
It just happened just kind of like naturally happened. to where i stopp You know what the problem was? I think back back in the day, teenagers and whatnot, we had so much time on our hands.

01:13:04.31
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:13:04.57
William Hernandez
Bro, I watched any time Duke was on like national TV or a ABC or ESPN. Bro, I watched all those fucking games, dude.

01:13:14.55
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah.

01:13:14.93
William Hernandez
All of them.

01:13:17.05
Erik Pimentel
I would say in my, I went a little bit of time where I stopped, not that I stopped rooting for Duke, but I stopped watching, like, like you said, like religiously every time they were on TV, I was watching them.

01:13:22.81
William Hernandez
yeah yeah yeah

01:13:28.11
Erik Pimentel
I kind of picked back up a little bit about maybe five, six years ago, I picked back up again.

01:13:33.56
William Hernandez
oh is there okay cool gotcha

01:13:34.78
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, but but I was still, you know, obviously watching them in a tournament and things like that. I think the the last, the Shane Battier championship that they won when Battier was on that team.

01:13:44.02
William Hernandez
I watched that that whole thing. Yep.

01:13:45.89
Erik Pimentel
Yep, yep.

01:13:46.06
William Hernandez
Yep. That was, yeah.

01:13:46.74
Erik Pimentel
but But yeah, I had a little bit of a lull too with Duke.

01:13:47.29
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:13:49.75
Erik Pimentel
Just because, like you said, I mean, you're an adult. You got more responsibilities. You don't got time to watch.

01:13:53.69
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.

01:13:54.57
Erik Pimentel
You're already watching Mets. You're already watching Giants. It's like, damn, I got to fit another team into it.

01:13:57.27
William Hernandez
Exactly. Yeah.

01:13:58.84
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah, I get it.

01:13:59.10
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah.

01:13:59.80
Erik Pimentel
I get it.

01:14:00.98
William Hernandez
Yeah. And then it was just like, you know, I should, I, I, at some point I was like, I'm just to go all in back on St. John's and just worry about like what St. John's is doing. um And, you know, it's kind of, it's paying off now.

01:14:13.30
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:14:14.07
William Hernandez
In a lot of different ways because, you know, they've been they've been they have not been great, um which is crazy to think about playing in new York City. But, um you know, went through some, you know, there was a lot of excitement when Steve Lavin was here. And then when Chris Mullen was the coach, everybody was like, oh, this is it. This is it.

01:14:32.85
William Hernandez
National Championship. And that turned out, that was a shit show.

01:14:36.76
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:14:36.82
William Hernandez
That turned out to be a fucking shit show at the end of the day.

01:14:39.29
Erik Pimentel
in In my case, yeah, no, ah go ahead, go ahead, I'm sorry.

01:14:39.30
William Hernandez
And now, yeah. Yeah.

01:14:43.80
William Hernandez
I was gonna say, and now with Patino here, of all of all the people, the man who I hated, man who I hated for very, very long, and now he's the one that's making a difference.

01:14:46.14
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah. yeah

01:14:53.08
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:14:55.28
William Hernandez
Unbelievable.

01:14:55.45
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. I think in my case, like, it's weird that I never became a St. John's fan. Obviously, I attended St. John's with you.

01:15:01.47
William Hernandez
Right, yeah, right.

01:15:02.42
Erik Pimentel
But, I mean, it I never rooted against St. John's. Like, St. John's was like one of those teams when they're good, hey, what it's New York, I'm going root for them.

01:15:09.07
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

01:15:10.30
Erik Pimentel
and And then when we were there, they had some good teams.

01:15:10.51
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:12.62
Erik Pimentel
You know, Zendon Hamilton, Ron Artest.

01:15:12.76
William Hernandez
like did. Yeah.

01:15:15.96
William Hernandez
Right.

01:15:16.34
Erik Pimentel
you know Eric Barkley.

01:15:16.32
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:15:18.04
Erik Pimentel
you know Some of those dudes were in my classes.

01:15:17.96
William Hernandez
Yup.

01:15:21.30
Erik Pimentel
you know so

01:15:21.37
William Hernandez
Right. Same here. Yeah.

01:15:22.68
Erik Pimentel
um um My favorite was LeVar Postel.

01:15:22.87
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:15:25.04
Erik Pimentel
He was one of my favorite dudes.

01:15:25.78
William Hernandez
Oh God. He was awesome.

01:15:27.19
Erik Pimentel
He was an animal. um

01:15:28.38
William Hernandez
He was a great dunker.

01:15:29.96
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, he was. He played for the Knicks for a little bit of time, too.

01:15:32.15
William Hernandez
Right.

01:15:32.28
Erik Pimentel
The Knicks drafted him, I think.

01:15:32.53
William Hernandez
Yup. Yup.

01:15:34.20
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, so had that 98, 99, 2000. They had good run that year, yeah.

01:15:40.70
Erik Pimentel
you know bacteriageria

01:15:40.76
William Hernandez
Yeah. That was almost the time because they lost to, I think it was Auburn in the Elite Eight that year, if I'm not mistaken. That was the year that Barkley was there. And I think the starting lineup, if I'm not mistaken, was Barkley,

01:15:59.86
William Hernandez
ah Postel, Artest, Tyrone Grant, and Chudney Gray. was the was the one of the guards on that team, if I'm not mistaken.

01:16:12.63
Erik Pimentel
was then boot Was it Booty was on that team too?

01:16:13.36
William Hernandez
So... Bootsy came afterwards.

01:16:16.70
Erik Pimentel
Okay, yeah.

01:16:17.30
William Hernandez
Yeah, he was a year later. But he was there when, you know... Actually, no, think you're right. I think Bootsy was that year, if I'm not mistaken.

01:16:24.89
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, i think he I think he was on the 99 team, I believe.

01:16:25.70
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. um I know Larry will correct me. He's going to be like, how the fuck did you forget that?

01:16:31.54
Erik Pimentel
yeah

01:16:34.32
Erik Pimentel
Dude, all I...

01:16:34.33
William Hernandez
Larry got it. By the way, Larry got on my case for not remembering that the Mets traded David Cohn for Jeff Kent and Ryan Thompson.

01:16:42.58
Erik Pimentel
Oh, I was getting on your case. I was like i was listening to to you guys. I'm like, come on, dude. ah scary

01:16:50.87
William Hernandez
I got a bad memory, guys. Come on.

01:16:52.44
Erik Pimentel
Oh, man. Dude, all I remember from that was those times we were in St. John's when when during the during the tournament... because I remember we did a pool. I forgot who was running the pool.

01:17:03.96
Erik Pimentel
There was some dude that you knew that you, then I got, and I ended up, yes, the big dude, the big guy.

01:17:06.41
William Hernandez
Oh, yes, at the tutoring center. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

01:17:12.54
Erik Pimentel
And I ended up winning that year because I picked, I picked John Wallace and Syracuse to go all the way. They didn't win it, but they made it to the final and it was enough for me to win it.

01:17:17.37
William Hernandez
Okay.

01:17:20.31
Erik Pimentel
So, so yeah, those are some good times.

01:17:20.63
William Hernandez
Nice.

01:17:22.79
Erik Pimentel
It's funny, the two times I've ever won um a pool or those brackets is, and both times I picked, both times I picked Syracuse with John Wallace and Carmelo.

01:17:28.09
William Hernandez
The brackets, yeah.

01:17:32.06
Erik Pimentel
ah Yeah.

01:17:32.45
William Hernandez
That's interesting. That's so funny. Yeah, that I think the times that I've won brackets, usually it was because of Duke that I picked Duke to win the hole the whole – especially the – what did we use?

01:17:46.82
William Hernandez
The Bat-EA.

01:17:47.71
Erik Pimentel
The Batier year. Yeah. Yeah.

01:17:49.27
William Hernandez
I won a pool that year because I picked Duke to go all the way um that year. – um yeah i don't know. We'll see what happens with St. John's this year. I mean, listen, Ejiofor is playing. Let me ask you about Ejiofor. know you've seen him play.

01:18:04.12
William Hernandez
You think that guy, you think he's an NBA player? I don't know where he would fit in the m NBA.

01:18:10.69
Erik Pimentel
Uh, I think he could. I mean, listen, the the way the NBA is right now, I think there's, i don't want to say there's a lack of talent in the NBA. I just think that there's a big split in the top tier guys.

01:18:26.30
Erik Pimentel
And then there' and there's the next level.

01:18:27.48
William Hernandez
I see what you're saying. Yeah, right, right, right.

01:18:29.59
Erik Pimentel
So yeah I think, I think guys like him could definitely make them be, I mean, will he, will he be an impact player?

01:18:29.95
William Hernandez
That's a good point.

01:18:36.02
Erik Pimentel
Who knows?

01:18:37.30
William Hernandez
Yeah, I think his problem's gonna be he doesn't shoot the three well.

01:18:39.89
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:18:40.47
William Hernandez
yeah like That's like the only his only issue. He almost had a triple-double in this game, 21 points, 10 rebounds, and 7 assists. um But one thing that was really surprising for me was UConn had 15 turnovers in this game, and Silas Damari Jr. had nine of them, which is insane.

01:18:59.58
William Hernandez
But, uh...

01:18:59.80
Erik Pimentel
is that Is that to do with the balls the size of church bells?

01:19:03.10
William Hernandez
No...

01:19:06.20
William Hernandez
ah da

01:19:06.78
Erik Pimentel
and

01:19:07.10
William Hernandez
Was it Darling?

01:19:08.42
Erik Pimentel
Rick Pitino is crazy.

01:19:08.66
William Hernandez
the point Yeah. yeah he said Bro, he said some wild shit, dude. And I think it's because he's old he doesn't give a fuck anymore.

01:19:17.24
Erik Pimentel
He does not care.

01:19:17.75
William Hernandez
yeah That's what I think he is.

01:19:18.81
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:19:18.79
William Hernandez
He does not care. That dude does not care anymore. ah One more thing about St. John's. They got the rematch in Hartford on February 25th. You want to talk about tough place to play?

01:19:31.70
William Hernandez
That could be a tough place to play. It's not as bad as Storrs. which is UConn's campus, but

01:19:37.34
Erik Pimentel
So, so let me real quick. So St.

01:19:39.99
William Hernandez
yeah.

01:19:40.10
Erik Pimentel
John's to in your, in your opinion, st St.

01:19:44.02
William Hernandez
Yes.

01:19:44.45
Erik Pimentel
John's, I mean, back in the days, it used to be the rivalry with St. John's, Georgetown, back in the day.

01:19:49.85
William Hernandez
Yeah, St. John's Georgetown, yeah.

01:19:51.42
Erik Pimentel
so So you think now it's St. John's, UConn?

01:19:54.55
William Hernandez
I do, yeah, yeah.

01:19:55.48
Erik Pimentel
Okay.

01:19:55.83
William Hernandez
I think it's St. John's UConn now, yeah.

01:19:57.34
Erik Pimentel
And it used to be also St. John's, Syracuse, too, back in the day, with Jim Boeheim and stuff.

01:20:00.15
William Hernandez
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. right it's well I mean, Syracuse not even a Big East anymore, which is like which is stupid to me.

01:20:06.93
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

01:20:08.41
William Hernandez
um Yeah, i think it's I think it's now St. John's-UConn only because the distance, right? They're right next to each other, state-wise.

01:20:19.57
William Hernandez
And I think the fans, especially the UConn fans, probably make it so because they travel so well. And, like, they'll they hold the games at the Garden for a reason.

01:20:30.77
William Hernandez
you're You're never going to see St. John's play UConn on campus. That's never going to happen.

01:20:35.74
Erik Pimentel
No.

01:20:35.95
William Hernandez
Because you're losing out on so much money by doing that, bro.

01:20:38.88
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:20:39.24
William Hernandez
The cheapest ticket, $300 to get in on sound Friday night.

01:20:39.42
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:20:43.65
Erik Pimentel
Jeez.

01:20:43.96
William Hernandez
yeah You It's Karnasek Arena.

01:20:45.27
Erik Pimentel
how How many games do they play? Is it still called Alumni Hall Luke Karnaseka? How many games do they play there

01:20:50.82
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:20:53.53
William Hernandez
So here's the thing. It's funny you say that because going into into Patino's first year, they had actually made a commitment to play less less games at the Garden and more games at Carneseca Arena, Alumni Hall, whatever you want to call it.

01:21:12.28
William Hernandez
So when St. John's started playing better as last season went on, they started moving some of the games from Carneseca to the Garden. Because they were going to make the money.

01:21:23.26
Erik Pimentel
yeah

01:21:23.48
William Hernandez
So like this year, it's funny because I think it was Tariq Turner because he sometimes he does radio on ah with Minko, John Minko. um

01:21:33.02
Erik Pimentel
Thank you.

01:21:34.74
William Hernandez
They were saying on the radio that they are playing, I think, their most games at the Garden this year, which is like eight or nine. They've never played that many games at the Garden before because they usually try to split the Big East Conference games between the Garden and Karnasek Arena.

01:21:52.79
William Hernandez
But that's not the case anymore because they got to make, you know, come on. You got to make the money. And I think it's it's better for that because people do... Listen, I think people are... I think these New York City people that did not go to St. John's but that are St. John's fans are probably going to these games because it's Patino that's coaching team.

01:22:12.61
William Hernandez
I mean, that's... To me, that's what I think is happening. They're playing well, too. So I think that ah that also helps. But listen, I think... They'll get to the tournament easily.

01:22:24.34
William Hernandez
i don't think that's a question about that. The question's going to be how far they go. And, you know, we'll see. I don't know. I'm looking forward to it, though. It'll be two years in a row that they have a pretty high seed. That hasn't happened in ah in a very long time.

01:22:39.00
William Hernandez
um All right.

01:22:42.62
William Hernandez
Let us talk about some baseball. And I don't know about you, bro. But I'm seeing all these videos coming out of Port St. Lucie. And I'm getting excited.

01:22:53.50
Erik Pimentel
makes you Makes you feel good, right?

01:22:55.54
William Hernandez
Yeah! Fuck that! All this shit we were talking the whole offseason! Out the window now! Seriously. Bro, I was like looking at tickets for opening day. I'm like, ah, too expensive. We'll just go on a what we've usually done the past few years.

01:23:12.07
William Hernandez
We don't go to opening day, but we'll go let's to the Saturday game. The first Saturday game of the year. Hopefully it's not like 40 degrees that um that day. But, so I thought, we thought it would be a fun idea because the Mets pod, which is on S&Y,

01:23:33.53
William Hernandez
put out a all Mets team. Of course, my, in my internet is, is my phone's betraying me right now. It's in my, I saved it in my photos. Let me bring it up here because this was tough.

01:23:52.65
William Hernandez
I'm going to tell you that right now. This was ah difficult. Now, why am I not finding the photo?

01:24:01.18
Erik Pimentel
I didn't find it difficult at all.

01:24:04.02
William Hernandez
Really?

01:24:04.34
Erik Pimentel
There's only only one only one position I was debating.

01:24:04.70
William Hernandez
ah

01:24:08.19
William Hernandez
When we get into it, and and I'll give you, I'll i'll give you the, like, um because there were no rules here, right? i didn't I didn't have any, like, rules for the picks here. um I got to go on the internet because for some reason, like, my phone's not, like, ah

01:24:27.35
William Hernandez
for for whatever reason, my phone is not picking up the signal back here. But I am recording. So that is very, let me see. So basically what they did was they went through and gave an all-time Mets team.

01:24:41.97
William Hernandez
And I got to say, it was it was a pretty good, ah I thought, effort. But I think, I don't know about you, but I think our team is going to look a lot different then um than what they had.

01:24:52.39
Erik Pimentel
You

01:25:00.70
Erik Pimentel
want me to text you a screenshot of it?

01:25:03.19
William Hernandez
ah Let me see if I can bring it up here. This is really fucking annoying. Mets pod... Yeah, text me a screenshot of what I sent you.

01:25:10.98
Erik Pimentel
OK, you got it.

01:25:12.09
William Hernandez
i just so I don't understand why this is... I don't even know if I want to get it because... it's of um Let me see if I can just... Mets pod...

01:25:31.74
Erik Pimentel
I got it over here if you want me to do it.

01:25:34.33
William Hernandez
all-time... yeah Read out what they had across the board and then and then we'll ah we'll do it.

01:25:39.30
Erik Pimentel
Okay.

01:25:42.28
William Hernandez
Go ahead.

01:25:42.74
Erik Pimentel
Okay. So around the horn. So at first base, they had Keith Fernandez. Second base, it got Alfonso.

01:25:49.36
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:25:51.70
Erik Pimentel
Third base, shortstop, Lindor. Third base, David Wright. Right field, Strawberry. centerfield Beltran, leftfield Soto, as their pitcher was Tom Seaver, their catcher was Piazza, DH Alonzo, closer John Franco, and their pinch hitter was Lenny Harris.

01:26:17.78
William Hernandez
Yeah. So let's start with left field. We'll go left to right, and then we'll go into the infield. Yeah, here it just came across right now. um i did So the way I did this, it was a combination of

01:26:37.78
William Hernandez
basically time and place. And what I mean by that is because of the time of these players and I guess my fandom at the time versus, and the other consideration I, I, um, I did it was also talent.

01:26:56.22
William Hernandez
So my guys are going to be a lot different than list list. So, and I'll give, we we we can give reasons too, for why we picked the guys that we did.

01:27:01.85
Erik Pimentel
mut

01:27:05.30
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, the only rule I had is I had to see this guy play.

01:27:05.56
William Hernandez
so

01:27:08.14
Erik Pimentel
So Tom Seaver didn't make I did i got the actually got ah Soto at left field.

01:27:09.14
William Hernandez
That's my other... Yes. That was my other... Yes, I agree. The other thing was I had to see the guy play. Yes, I agree. Okay. let's some Let's go to left field first.

01:27:20.47
William Hernandez
Who do you have?

01:27:26.78
Erik Pimentel
I did put him.

01:27:27.19
William Hernandez
Okay, so you did what they did. Okay, gotcha.

01:27:28.79
Erik Pimentel
Yep, yep.

01:27:30.39
William Hernandez
Okay.

01:27:31.16
Erik Pimentel
You want me to keep on?

01:27:33.65
William Hernandez
No, I'll go to my left fielder.

01:27:35.00
Erik Pimentel
Okay, go ahead.

01:27:35.58
William Hernandez
My left fielder...

01:27:35.84
Erik Pimentel
ye

01:27:37.86
William Hernandez
You're to say something? Oh, did I did i cut you off?

01:27:38.92
Erik Pimentel
No, I was just like, you're talking about talent and stuff like that.

01:27:39.95
William Hernandez
Okay, okay.

01:27:42.28
Erik Pimentel
mean, who's more talented than Juan Soto?

01:27:44.66
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I completely agree with that. Because Soto is on my team, but I have him been in in a and right field. Spoiler alert.

01:27:55.67
William Hernandez
I didn't pick Strawberry. i'll get it We'll get into it. ah My left field is Kevin McReynolds.

01:28:03.10
Erik Pimentel
I could see that.

01:28:03.38
William Hernandez
Because of... And here's the reason why. I obviously saw him play. And I think this was at a time, i remember when they signed him.

01:28:15.51
William Hernandez
I think it was in 88, if I'm not mistaken, 87, 88.

01:28:17.93
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah.

01:28:19.77
William Hernandez
That was the first time that I was really, at that age, paying attention to like that aspect of baseball. Like free agent signings and things like that. Because I remember it being a big deal when they signed him.

01:28:29.99
Erik Pimentel
Hmm.

01:28:33.69
William Hernandez
And you know what? Say what you want. I know he gets a lot of shit because he might not have been like the most ah outgoing type of player, but he was pretty good. you know, he wasn't like he wasn't bad. and I think about like all the left fielders that the Mets have had over the years since I've been watching. And I i consider Nimmo. I really did.

01:28:54.36
William Hernandez
um I would say he's the guy that stood out the most in my in my mind. I thought about Bernard Gilkey as well because Gilkey had some decent years when he was here.

01:29:05.04
Erik Pimentel
I thought about him too. Yeah.

01:29:08.50
William Hernandez
The teams were shitty.

01:29:10.32
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:29:10.88
William Hernandez
Don't get me wrong. But Gilkey was another guy that came to mind do it for that for that left field spot. so

01:29:17.14
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:29:17.53
William Hernandez
But ultimately, I went with Mr. McReynolds. so

01:29:20.59
Erik Pimentel
I remember that that year, me and you went to a bunch of games. It was Gilkey and Lance Johnson, a center.

01:29:25.73
William Hernandez
Lance Johnson at center field.

01:29:27.38
Erik Pimentel
I remember I got Lance Johnson's autograph on a baseball, one dog.

01:29:27.61
William Hernandez
Yep, yep.

01:29:30.68
Erik Pimentel
So, yeah, that was good time.

01:29:31.53
William Hernandez
That's right. I remember that. Right.

01:29:32.79
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:32.77
William Hernandez
I do remember that.

01:29:35.74
Erik Pimentel
All right. So, center field, it has to be Beltran.

01:29:36.29
William Hernandez
All right. What do for center field?

01:29:39.40
Erik Pimentel
I mean, you could you could make the case for Mookie Wilson. You could make the case for Lenny Dykstra, but... I mean, it has to be Beltran. The guy just, he's one of those guys, like you mentioned a little bit with Kevin McReynolds, but this is like on another level because the dude's a Hall of Famer.

01:29:56.57
Erik Pimentel
he was He was a lot of people for some for whatever reason, and I guess maybe it's that Adam Wainwright strikeout.

01:29:56.86
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:30:04.00
William Hernandez
To call third strike. Yeah.

01:30:05.27
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, they you know they don't give him the the respect that he did, but I i specifically remember the first year

01:30:05.34
William Hernandez
ah

01:30:12.73
Erik Pimentel
The Mets signed him. Getting into an argument and upper deck with another Mets fan. Because the first year, Beltran did not have a good year.

01:30:18.32
William Hernandez
Uh-huh. That's hilarious.

01:30:23.15
William Hernandez
Oh, he was awful. Yeah.

01:30:24.38
Erik Pimentel
But I remember that specific game that I was at, he robbed a home run. He made a great play. rob Went over the fence and robbed a home run. The next inning, he came to bat and he ground ground it out.

01:30:33.15
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:30:36.70
Erik Pimentel
And the guy's like, oh, this guy's a bum. We signed him. i was like, dude, he pretty much just robbed a three-run homer over here. well yeah And I've gotten into an argument with a drunk dude. that is um I'll never forget that.

01:30:48.74
Erik Pimentel
Idiot. but But yeah, he's one of those underappreciated Mets.

01:30:50.61
William Hernandez
That's hilarious.

01:30:53.47
Erik Pimentel
Hopefully now with him being in the Hall of Fame, people can see how good we had it at center field for all those years.

01:30:59.29
William Hernandez
Yeah, I have Beltran in center field as well. And again, you you said it. Could have been Mookie Wilson. I thought about Wilson. I thought about Dykstra. I mean, those are guys are honorable mentions, I guess, i guess for this, but I don't think people... It's the same thing, like you said.

01:31:18.14
William Hernandez
You have to appreciate like what he did now, especially him being in in the Hall of Fame. and i mean the the what are the You want to mess around the best highlight, the worst highlight is him striking out, looking against Rainwright. But bro,

01:31:33.43
William Hernandez
when he caught the the ball in Houston up the hill, i mean, that always going to stick out of my mind because he got, could have fucking broken his damn ankle, uh, doing that.

01:31:35.99
Erik Pimentel
Oh yeah.

01:31:41.35
Erik Pimentel
Uh huh.

01:31:42.05
William Hernandez
So he had a lot of big home runs for them, you know, and he played great, you know, he played great, uh, defense and center field.

01:31:45.53
Erik Pimentel
Oh yeah.

01:31:49.12
William Hernandez
So, you know, um, yeah, can't, I mean, he's going to get his number retired this year. Probably. you have to do it now because he's going to the hall of fame. So, um, that's definitely going to be on the docket.

01:31:58.46
Erik Pimentel
Mm hmm.

01:32:00.76
William Hernandez
Uh, for this year. or So yeah, um I'll, I'll take Beltran instead of field as well.

01:32:05.34
Erik Pimentel
you remember that collision that You remember that collision he had with Mike Aaron?

01:32:05.82
William Hernandez
You're right. Yeah. Oh, we have my Cameron.

01:32:09.18
Erik Pimentel
Holy crap.

01:32:09.88
William Hernandez
Yeah, bro.

01:32:11.22
Erik Pimentel
That was crazy.

01:32:11.17
William Hernandez
And San Diego. Holy shit, dude.

01:32:12.28
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah.

01:32:13.07
William Hernandez
Bad.

01:32:13.78
Erik Pimentel
um

01:32:13.91
William Hernandez
yes bad

01:32:14.90
Erik Pimentel
So my right fielder, I mean, who else is but strawberry, you know, that dude, you want to talk about a guy that should have, should be, should have been a hall of famer a long time ago. If he didn't, you know, like the white powder so much, but um

01:32:31.48
Erik Pimentel
I'm glad he turned his life around now and he's doing well, but man, you want to talk about a guy i should have been all the famer. I, I, I thought about w right field and I'm like, Who else is, I mean, you can say you can say Soto, but I'll put Soto at left and and put Strawberry in right, you know, so I couldn't think of anybody else at right field.

01:32:42.55
William Hernandez
tough.

01:32:45.27
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:32:47.80
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah.

01:32:51.90
William Hernandez
I can't even... i So I got soda in right field, but i like I can't... And obviously strawberry... Listen...

01:32:59.78
William Hernandez
It's hard to pick against Sherbury for me because of what he meant to the Mets in the 80s. But he did leave for the greener pastures of l L.A.

01:33:11.20
William Hernandez
So I will.

01:33:11.48
Erik Pimentel
which he regrets all day.

01:33:13.14
William Hernandez
Yeah, he says that all the time. Right.

01:33:15.06
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:33:15.14
William Hernandez
um i mean, just going back to Soto, dude. i I was thinking about this earlier today because, you know, we know I was unemployed last year. I was unemployed during the baseball season. which meant I saw just about every game last year.

01:33:33.05
William Hernandez
Like, just about every, because what the fuck else was I going to do? I saw just about every game. So I knew that team very intimately, the ins and outs of that team, the good and the bad.

01:33:48.38
William Hernandez
And this was really the first time watching Soto as an everyday player. And I'm sure Larry can attest to this because, you know, he was covering them when he was when Soda was on the Yankees for that year.

01:34:01.59
William Hernandez
I don't think I've ever he knows a strike zone better than the umpires.

01:34:05.16
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:34:06.49
William Hernandez
yeah You know what I mean? Like, it's insane how much better he knows the strike zone than any player I've ever seen that I've watched day to day.

01:34:17.88
William Hernandez
and I know guys like Tony g Guen and Wade Boggs are very known for you know being able to work the strike zone. But I didn't see those guys play every day. I saw Soto play every day last year. That guy is on another level that he's being underpaid now when you think about it.

01:34:35.10
William Hernandez
In some ways. With all these fucking salaries that are beginning that are being a you know given up by now. But ah yeah, he's my he's my right fielder for for the obvious reasons. um Let's go to first base.

01:34:55.89
Erik Pimentel
All right. My first base, I mean, sorry, it's not Pete Alonzo. It's Kiefer.

01:35:02.35
William Hernandez
It's not.

01:35:02.79
Erik Pimentel
It's it's Keith Fernandez.

01:35:02.85
William Hernandez
Yeah, it's not. Yeah.

01:35:04.51
Erik Pimentel
It has to be Keith Fernandez. I mean.

01:35:05.76
William Hernandez
Same. Minus Ethernet is too.

01:35:07.70
Erik Pimentel
You want to talk about, you know, co-captain of the 80s team, you know, a grinder, a dude that a batch 300, you know, waking up out of his sleep, you know, that he was go Glover, go Glover galore.

01:35:07.73
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:35:23.10
Erik Pimentel
You know, I got i got go Glove bobblehead right here. So, yeah, he he's my first baseman all day, every day.

01:35:30.69
William Hernandez
How many gold gloves did he win? Gold gloves.

01:35:32.85
Erik Pimentel
I think he like 11. And all of them were in a row too.

01:35:35.67
William Hernandez
He... Right. ah he I mean, listen, guys, he should be in the Hall of Fame. i keep but And I might just, he's got, if you look at his overall, some of his overall numbers are better than guys in the Hall of Fame.

01:35:48.17
William Hernandez
I'll just leave it at that.

01:35:49.85
Erik Pimentel
And Matt Mattingly should be in the Hall of Fame too.

01:35:50.10
William Hernandez
That's all going to say. And Mattingly, yeah.

01:35:53.37
Erik Pimentel
Yep.

01:35:53.60
William Hernandez
Um... Yeah, I mean, i I'll never forget that I was at a game. What are the few memories I have of 86? I don't remember a lot about 86. I was very young.

01:36:04.86
William Hernandez
But I was at a game in 86 that they gave him his gold glove before the game.

01:36:10.07
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:36:10.49
William Hernandez
They gave him the award that he won from 85. And I remember because it was against the Houston Nationals. I'll never forget.

01:36:16.18
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:36:16.31
William Hernandez
And he made ah Keith Hernandez. It's in the fucking 86 video thing where he makes that tumbling diving play down the down the right field line where he kind of like tumbles over.

01:36:27.56
William Hernandez
And then those are the first I was at that game.

01:36:28.62
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:36:30.14
William Hernandez
um So it's like shit like that. you know, we've seen the highlights in that 86 video with him playing. when him and When he was playing first base and Carter was playing third because DeRay and I got thrown out during the fight with the Reds.

01:36:41.81
Erik Pimentel
Third.

01:36:45.85
William Hernandez
And they made that double play where Keith was right on top of the fucking plate. Got the ball on the bounce. Throws it to third to Carter. And then Carter throws it back to first but to get the double play.

01:36:56.37
William Hernandez
Like, he was doing shit that people were not doing back then.

01:36:57.65
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:37:00.34
William Hernandez
So, um... Plus the hitting and all that other stuff. And, you know, kind of became a minor celebrity in New York. Seinfeld and all this other shit. So, you know, he's the first baseman. That's not even a question.

01:37:13.88
Erik Pimentel
Yep.

01:37:13.93
William Hernandez
Sorry, Pete. Okay. Second base.

01:37:18.14
Erik Pimentel
My second baseman is one of my favorite Mets of all time. And he's up here at Garo Alfonso.

01:37:24.48
William Hernandez
Yep, he's my second baseman too.

01:37:24.75
Erik Pimentel
That's that dude. You want to talk about a steady guy. you you put him at third. He's good. You put him at second. He's good. So, you know, a clutch hitter.

01:37:36.60
Erik Pimentel
You know, i'll I'll never forget. I remember staying up madly when they were playing the Diamondbacks in the playoffs.

01:37:42.94
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah. I was thinking about that today too. Yeah.

01:37:45.34
Erik Pimentel
Bro, i there i I remember that because and I think it was around midterms, and I failed a couple of midterms because i was up watching watching these Met games, bro.

01:37:51.94
William Hernandez
Yeah. Oh, damn.

01:37:55.62
Erik Pimentel
I'm telling you. And, it you know, that home run that he hit to win the game, that dude, you want to talk about clutch, in solid player, that's my second baseman.

01:38:06.39
William Hernandez
Do you remember the six-for-six game in Houston?

01:38:08.66
Erik Pimentel
Oh, yeah.

01:38:08.95
William Hernandez
That was a what one that sticks out for a lot of us Mets fans.

01:38:11.16
Erik Pimentel
Oh, yeah.

01:38:12.47
William Hernandez
um

01:38:12.86
Erik Pimentel
Yep.

01:38:13.88
William Hernandez
Yeah, bro. mean, he played great defense. You know, you know he was part of the what they called it the greatest infield defense of all time with Oda Rude and Alonzo and Aldonez and Ventura at third base.

01:38:22.03
Erik Pimentel
Yep.

01:38:26.86
William Hernandez
um i just i it The one thing I always wonder about is how come – because i remember, at some point he was coaching in the – in the system with his brother.

01:38:36.09
Erik Pimentel
Minor leagues. Yeah, yeah.

01:38:37.46
William Hernandez
Yeah. Uh, with Edgar. Yeah. I know. Very, very, uh, creative Edgar and our guard. Um, but yeah, I don't, nothing ever really, you don't really see him around the Mets, which I think is interesting because he's,

01:38:50.07
Erik Pimentel
I think he was he was in the spring training instructor a couple of years ago, I think he was.

01:38:54.46
William Hernandez
Oh, was he okay?

01:38:55.29
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:38:55.42
William Hernandez
Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. That's good to know. Um, but i I like to see him around a little bit more.

01:39:01.53
Erik Pimentel
funny funny funny Funny thing about Eduardo Alfonso.

01:39:01.62
William Hernandez
Um, okay.

01:39:05.34
Erik Pimentel
you go You're going to laugh when you hear this story.

01:39:05.37
William Hernandez
Yes.

01:39:07.93
Erik Pimentel
So my wife, at the time, she was still my girlfriend. um At the Sears in Queens Plaza. My wife is there.

01:39:17.05
William Hernandez
Okay.

01:39:18.38
Erik Pimentel
buying, i don't know, a refrigerator, whatever the hell she was buying. And she ran into a God Alfonso. And a God of Alfonso was trying to pick up my wife, bro.

01:39:26.14
William Hernandez
Oh, really?

01:39:31.77
William Hernandez
Did she know it was Algarve Alfonso?

01:39:33.94
Erik Pimentel
She knew, yeah, because i you know she she would go to Mets games with me and stuff like that.

01:39:35.42
William Hernandez
Okay, she knew. Okay.

01:39:37.50
Erik Pimentel
it's like youre ah I was like, did you get some did you get some tickets at least?

01:39:38.73
William Hernandez
Gotcha.

01:39:43.42
Erik Pimentel
So I think she also, because my wife, She would, she had, she used to work, she had two jobs. One of the jobs she had was she's a student aid at an elementary school in Corona, which the Mets used to go to.

01:39:57.20
William Hernandez
Okay.

01:39:58.08
Erik Pimentel
The Mets used to go to and and and um read to the kids and things like that.

01:40:01.18
William Hernandez
That makes sense. Is it right there? Yeah, yeah.

01:40:03.10
Erik Pimentel
and i And I think she ran, God Alfonso ran into her there too, so. yeah

01:40:09.24
William Hernandez
That's hilarious. Holy shit. That's good. That's a good story. ah Let's jump over to third base.

01:40:16.76
Erik Pimentel
Third base has got to be David Wright. I mean, I thought about putting Hojo because Hojo...

01:40:22.37
William Hernandez
you know why?

01:40:22.47
Erik Pimentel
ah Yeah, I know.

01:40:22.81
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:40:25.21
Erik Pimentel
I know. oh I really thought about putting Hojo in this one because Hojo was one of my favorite players too growing up. I mean... You know, the the one of the first guys to ever do the 3030 and he did it three times, which is weird because he did it in odd years.

01:40:39.27
Erik Pimentel
So 87, 89, 91. He never did it in back to back years.

01:40:42.49
William Hernandez
Oh, that is interesting.

01:40:43.92
Erik Pimentel
But um but yeah, Hojo, i really thought about it, but um'm I'm going to put David right on on this list.

01:40:44.91
William Hernandez
Hmm.

01:40:53.11
William Hernandez
Yeah, I mean, Hojo's my guy. got there i don't think, I don't know if people know. Like, Howard Johnson is my favorite man of all time. Like, there has, there's not a, not a fucking question.

01:41:03.77
William Hernandez
ah ah used to play third base because of him. I used to wear number 20 because of him. i still use the number 20. ah in ways that I will not reveal.

01:41:15.86
William Hernandez
pass Passwords. Ah, now gotta change it. um But no, seriously. like Bro, I mean, that is... He's always gonna be my guy. I actually got a chance to interview him when I was a sports writer. And yeah, when he was the... um when he was the, um I mean, I didn't mark out or anything like that. I wasn't like, Oh, I used to be a, I was, I was professional.

01:41:39.02
William Hernandez
Uh, but I, I interviewed him cause he used to be the hitting, the hitting coach for the Binghamton Mets, which is the double affiliate of, of still to this day. Um, so when they came through, I was doing a story about, uh,

01:41:54.78
William Hernandez
just about like the art of a stolen base. And obviously, you know, he was a great guy to talk to because of, um you know, because of what he did. The thing was, is I think at that time, this was when the stolen base was starting to go a little bit like out of vogue.

01:42:12.57
William Hernandez
Like there was rumblings and people were... even the in the minors, they weren't stealing as much as they as they as they used to. So I did like ah this whole big like story on it. i spoke to I spoke to Hojo when he was in town. he was Bro, he gave me like 20 minutes, you know, and going into like how he, his technique and you know, why he decided to steal his money bases as he did back then and you know, what they taught the kids in the minor league and stuff like that.

01:42:41.07
William Hernandez
So that was really, i'll I'll never forget that interaction that I had with him. So, um but yeah, he was, ah you know, he was the man for me for a very long time.

01:42:46.69
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:42:50.71
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, no, I, like I said, I, I was, you're almost convincing me to put Hojo because he was, he was, he was one of my guys too, man. He you know, he was for, for those years that the Mets sucked, he was our one light guiding light.

01:42:59.58
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah.

01:43:04.87
Erik Pimentel
You know i'm saying?

01:43:05.27
William Hernandez
yeah Yeah. He was.

01:43:06.62
Erik Pimentel
So, so it was, he was, he was, and again, i grew up playing third base too.

01:43:06.73
William Hernandez
Yeah, he definitely was.

01:43:10.74
Erik Pimentel
So, you know, he, he was, he was good. Screw that. I'm putting Hojo on it. oh my teeth I'm taking it out there. cause I was like 50, 50 thinking about it.

01:43:20.98
William Hernandez
It's hard, bro. was thinking too, I love David Wright.

01:43:24.38
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:43:24.49
William Hernandez
He is, you know obviously for a lot of us, he was our favorite player during that era that he was there. and you know His career got cut short because of the injury. and you know You think that maybe he might have been a Hall of Famer if he could but have kept on playing. It's borderline. There's always been that discussion about it. but It's just, you know and ho joes again, time and place.

01:43:45.40
William Hernandez
Young kid growing up.

01:43:45.65
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

01:43:47.42
William Hernandez
loving third playing third base. You know, that's kind of that's kind of why. ah Shortstop.

01:43:52.21
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:43:55.29
Erik Pimentel
My shortstop, sorry, Lindor, my shortstop is Jose Reyes. That's...

01:43:59.62
William Hernandez
Ah, you over to Reyes. Okay.

01:44:01.40
Erik Pimentel
I went with Reyes on this one, man.

01:44:02.55
William Hernandez
Got that.

01:44:03.36
Erik Pimentel
i You know, the energy that he brought to the team, you know, lead off, you know, getting on base, stealing all those bases. I'll never forget, I remember when it was... When they were debating on their contracts were coming up, it was David Wright and Jose Reyes. Like, who are they going to sign? Because they could freaking will ponds are so cheap. They didn't want to sign both of them.

01:44:23.03
William Hernandez
Right.

01:44:23.58
Erik Pimentel
So I was I was team Jose Reyes because at that time I was like, what he brings to the table is something unique.

01:44:23.64
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah.

01:44:31.26
Erik Pimentel
um At that time, there were so many good third basements. I believe we could have replaced David Wright with another guy. um But you've seen since we got rid of Jose Reyes, we haven't gotten anybody else until we got Lindor.

01:44:44.44
Erik Pimentel
So that wasn and i left a big a big hole in our lineup.

01:44:45.09
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah. Yeah.

01:44:47.50
Erik Pimentel
So my guy is Jose Reyes.

01:44:51.37
William Hernandez
I'm to do you one better. I went with Ray Ordonez, baby.

01:44:55.83
Erik Pimentel
Oh, man.

01:44:58.58
William Hernandez
Had to do it, bro. I had to do it. I was thinking about this because I had the same mindset as you. I was thinking, okay, it's one of three guys. It's either Ordonez, it's Reyes, or it's Lindor.

01:45:09.29
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

01:45:09.94
William Hernandez
And I think the reason why I went with Reyes is because when he came up, bro, there was – I don't think people understand that don't live in New York City. When this guy came up, there was so much hype around him from his defense alone because they were comparing him to like Ozzie Smith. But like he was supposed to be like a modern-day Ozzie Smith.

01:45:32.89
William Hernandez
And he was doing shit that you don't that you're not supposed to be teaching. You know, with the way he he slits his knee to get the backhand. You know, like that was like a no-no when we were growing up to do stuff like that.

01:45:42.90
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:45:45.28
William Hernandez
So he did everything with Flash. And i don't know if you remember. i think it was was that opening day for him that first year when he he he threw the guy out of home plate on the cutoff.

01:45:54.66
Erik Pimentel
Against the Cardinals. ray Ray Langford.

01:45:56.38
William Hernandez
Yeah, from his – yeah, right.

01:45:57.26
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:45:58.46
William Hernandez
Yeah, from his knees and – That basically like set the tone. Guys, he did... Go go search for Ray Ordonez highlights.

01:46:09.46
William Hernandez
That guy did some shit at shortstop that I've never seen before.

01:46:12.02
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, it was insane.

01:46:12.57
William Hernandez
ah It was like he was really, in some ways, a modern-day ah Ozzie Smith. He just didn't stay healthy. you know

01:46:23.87
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:46:23.80
William Hernandez
And he couldn't hit for shit.

01:46:25.97
Erik Pimentel
That's a problem. can And it will it was also, I mean, if and it's funny how you talk about timing.

01:46:28.06
William Hernandez
the problem That was the problem.

01:46:35.58
Erik Pimentel
Ray O'Donoghue in the 80s would have been the man.

01:46:36.06
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:46:39.19
Erik Pimentel
Because back then, you didn't expect your shortstop to hit a lot.

01:46:39.48
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

01:46:42.90
Erik Pimentel
You just wanted to catch the ball, i.e.

01:46:43.74
William Hernandez
Right. Yeah. Yeah.

01:46:45.93
Erik Pimentel
Ozzie Smith.

01:46:47.06
William Hernandez
Right.

01:46:47.45
Erik Pimentel
But you put him in a generation where Derek Jeter was coming up, A-Rod was coming up, Nomar Garcia-Para,

01:46:47.46
William Hernandez
Exactly.

01:46:53.38
William Hernandez
Yep. Yep. Cal Ripken was already there. Yeah.

01:46:57.78
Erik Pimentel
Kyle Ripken.

01:46:57.81
William Hernandez
Nomar.

01:46:58.42
Erik Pimentel
So all of those guys were like 25 and up home run hits.

01:46:58.42
William Hernandez
Yep.

01:47:02.14
Erik Pimentel
And then you got Ray O'Donoghue that'll give you one, you know, and bat 230.

01:47:02.46
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:47:04.92
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah.

01:47:07.02
Erik Pimentel
It's one thing if he batted at least close to 300. um

01:47:10.62
William Hernandez
Sure. Yeah. Different story.

01:47:11.67
Erik Pimentel
but

01:47:11.94
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:47:12.22
Erik Pimentel
But I think he just, I think Ray O'Donoghue grew up in the different, in the wrong decade. If he would have been in the 80s, he would have been, forget about it, superstar.

01:47:18.26
William Hernandez
I agree. Yeah. No, I agree. It was, you know, bad timing on, I mean, it's not his fault, you know.

01:47:25.62
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:47:25.66
William Hernandez
You can't fucking help when you're bored. But, um yeah, it's interesting. is um I saw him once at LaGuardia. It was very weird because i was wearing a Mets jersey. This is after he retired.

01:47:37.85
William Hernandez
And he was he actually was coming out of, like yeah i don't know if you remember when LaGuardia was like really fucked when they were doing the construction. It was like bad.

01:47:46.60
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

01:47:47.74
William Hernandez
So I went to go to the gate. I was eating with my girlfriend at the time. was eating, and I went to go check the gate to make sure that you know it was still the same gate or whatnot. um And I'm walking back, and he walks off a he walks out of ah off a plane.

01:48:04.22
William Hernandez
I'm like, I'm looking. I was like, that's Ray O'Donnell's. And I'm wearing a Mets jersey for whatever reason. So I look at him. He looks at me, and I kind of went like this, and he went like cause he like i don't want to make a big deal i I didn't want to draw any attention to it or anything like that.

01:48:15.70
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah,

01:48:17.66
William Hernandez
but he He knew. He wasn't ah he wasn't stupid. ah Okay. We know can point for catcher. Jerry Grody.

01:48:24.75
Erik Pimentel
yeah, yeah.

01:48:24.88
William Hernandez
I've heard that name. Maggie Sasser.

01:48:28.80
Erik Pimentel
Spoiler alert. My catch.

01:48:30.84
William Hernandez
jerry groy

01:48:31.99
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, okay.

01:48:36.38
Erik Pimentel
Charlie O'Brien. No. Mackie Sasser.

01:48:40.50
William Hernandez
heard that name of a magy sasser

01:48:41.21
Erik Pimentel
ah macy sassy Oh my God. Yeah. No, my my catcher is Gary Carter, the kid.

01:48:46.77
William Hernandez
Oh, God.

01:48:51.03
Erik Pimentel
Kid was my my guy growing up. It's the reason why I wore number eight. It's the reason, I mean, will when Will comes in July, he will see my shrine to Gary Carter downstairs.

01:49:01.40
William Hernandez
Oh, I can't wait. Yeah. well we We're going to post that on the on Instagram.

01:49:04.73
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, it will post it. It will post it, no doubt. But yeah, he was, you know, he was a guy. So I remember loved him growing up. That's the reason what I wore number eight in high school.

01:49:15.67
Erik Pimentel
Similar to Will, I have a lot of eights all over the place.

01:49:16.09
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:49:18.39
Erik Pimentel
So I'm not going to divulge where I use eight. But yeah, and

01:49:21.50
William Hernandez
That's funny. Oh, nice.

01:49:23.93
Erik Pimentel
oh but um but yeah and and Speaking of eight, so there's um there's a guy on Instagram that he did he does like cool art.

01:49:36.02
Erik Pimentel
And I saw he did like an art piece for for get another another Mets fan. And it was a ah Gary Carter eight. So i am mean I immediately contacted this guy and I'm working um i'm working on something with him.

01:49:44.50
William Hernandez
um nice Of course you did. Of course you did.

01:49:50.07
Erik Pimentel
but

01:49:50.33
William Hernandez
Oh, damn.

01:49:51.58
Erik Pimentel
um But yeah, it might be, it might be, yeah.

01:49:52.18
William Hernandez
is it going to be running when we get down there in July or no? Okay. Okay.

01:49:57.02
Erik Pimentel
um So, yeah, so he was always my guy, you know, the grittiness, you know, a lot of some people give him shit because he smiled all the time.

01:49:57.07
William Hernandez
Cool.

01:50:04.21
Erik Pimentel
And i was like, listen, the dude was a gamer. He's an all star when he came to the Mets. He was that that trade was the one that put the Mets over at the top. You know, him and Keith as co-captains were great.

01:50:13.37
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:50:16.41
Erik Pimentel
And, you know, just what people don't talk about, people always talk about Gary Carter's offense. And he was one of the best offensive catchers ever. But his defense and his and his the way he called a game is what people talk about.

01:50:30.98
Erik Pimentel
Like Doc Gooden talks about it all the time.

01:50:32.31
William Hernandez
Right, yeah, yeah.

01:50:33.25
Erik Pimentel
ron Ron Darling talks about it all the time. So, you know, he went he had one of the best arms as a catcher. So he's definitely my catcher. Oh, and another quick story. So I had the unfortunate the the fortunate of seeing Gary Carter a few years before he passed.

01:50:49.08
Erik Pimentel
So I actually got i got to see him.

01:50:50.52
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:50:52.14
Erik Pimentel
So the year he made the Hall of Fame. And I have a picture of this somewhere in here.

01:50:55.16
William Hernandez
Okay.

01:50:57.08
Erik Pimentel
um I remember he was doing an autograph signing at the Steiner store in... ah Where was that shit?

01:51:10.38
Erik Pimentel
Somewhere in Long Island, where that mall in Long Island.

01:51:12.22
William Hernandez
Okay.

01:51:12.46
Erik Pimentel
I forgot the name it.

01:51:13.21
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Roosevelt Field Mall?

01:51:14.85
Erik Pimentel
No, Green Acres. Green Acres Mall.

01:51:16.34
William Hernandez
Green Acres. Okay, yep.

01:51:17.37
Erik Pimentel
No, wait, I'm sorry.

01:51:17.50
William Hernandez
Green Acres, yep.

01:51:18.73
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, you're right. Roosevelt Field. Roosevelt Field.

01:51:20.69
William Hernandez
Roosevelt, okay. Okay.

01:51:21.43
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, so I remember... i was i I paid extra to be the first dude online.

01:51:27.01
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:51:28.72
Erik Pimentel
And I got there super early.

01:51:29.59
William Hernandez
Nice.

01:51:30.94
Erik Pimentel
i got there mad early. And I have the autograph. the too I have a lot of Gary Carter and Magrilo. But the two things that I cherish the most is the picture that he signed for me and the ball that he signed for me.

01:51:41.21
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:51:42.65
Erik Pimentel
And I remember, bro, I was so nervous.

01:51:42.90
William Hernandez
Nice. Yeah.

01:51:45.59
Erik Pimentel
i think my wife I think my wife recorded me, bro.

01:51:46.52
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:51:48.30
Erik Pimentel
I was so nervous. that The only question I got out was, are the Mets ever going to retire your number? That's what I told him.

01:51:54.94
William Hernandez
yeah

01:51:55.10
Erik Pimentel
and and his and he said And he said, I hope so, one day.

01:51:55.61
William Hernandez
yeah

01:51:58.62
Erik Pimentel
And we're still here waiting for it.

01:51:59.22
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:52:00.76
Erik Pimentel
But yeah.

01:52:00.95
William Hernandez
Yeah, it's a tough one. It's a tough one.

01:52:02.90
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah. ah That's my guy, Gary Carter.

01:52:07.38
William Hernandez
It's funny. Like, he is one of the few players that the Mets have had that had a huge impact on two different franchises. obviously with the Expos ah and and the Mets. There haven't been many.

01:52:23.51
William Hernandez
hey you could maybe say Piazza with LA and the Mets, but there really haven't been a lot of guys like him over the years. It has such a huge impact on both on two franchises like that. and he's you know he's one of those ah He's one of those guys.

01:52:38.63
William Hernandez
It's funny because I didn't fucking know he played for another team. Because, you know, I wasn't paying attention to that stuff back then, you know?

01:52:43.61
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:52:44.89
William Hernandez
And it wasn't until was later and you look at the back of the baseball card and be like, oh, he's not... He wasn't always with the Mets. He came from someplace else. so um So my... This was... i gotta i gotta I gotta admit, this was a tough one because the the three people I had in mind were Piazza,

01:53:02.39
William Hernandez
ah Carter, and Todd Hundley.

01:53:07.49
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:53:07.61
William Hernandez
Because I don't think people realize, like, Todd Hundley... he had the He had the record for most home runs by catcher that one year. He had 41. So this was a very difficult – because I was – bro, I love Todd Hundley.

01:53:20.95
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, me too.

01:53:21.21
William Hernandez
I was a huge Todd Hundley fan back in the day. But I went with Piazza. I mean, i just i kind of had to. Listen, i don't know people know the story. and don't i can't remember if we told the story in the podcast, but you and I went to his first game as a Met.

01:53:36.19
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:53:36.22
William Hernandez
Remember? He got traded. He got – the Mets made him trade on a Friday. And Eric and I went the Saturday to go watch them play. I forget who they were.

01:53:47.09
William Hernandez
you remember who they were playing but that game?

01:53:48.57
Erik Pimentel
The Brewers.

01:53:49.82
William Hernandez
The Brewers.

01:53:50.14
Erik Pimentel
when It's when the Brewers were still in the National League.

01:53:50.62
William Hernandez
And, right, yeah.

01:53:55.10
Erik Pimentel
but I'm sorry. When they were in a when they just be came into the National League.

01:53:55.61
William Hernandez
Well, American League. Yeah, just came it just came into the National League.

01:53:58.58
Erik Pimentel
I'm sorry.

01:54:00.57
William Hernandez
Right. um I just remember ah the walk-up sales for that day. must have been crazy.

01:54:07.84
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

01:54:08.26
William Hernandez
Because this is back in the day when you couldn't actually like buy a physical ticket. like Walk up to the booth and get a physical ticket. but Dude, there was so much pressure on that man in that first game. ah like You thought he was going to hit like three home runs in that game.

01:54:20.74
William Hernandez
That's what people wanted.

01:54:21.94
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:54:22.52
William Hernandez
so But yeah, he is my um he's my ya he's my catcher. Let's go to starting pitcher.

01:54:32.41
Erik Pimentel
So this could be a lot of people started pitch. I mean, you could, you could say doc.

01:54:35.06
William Hernandez
and know like I know. I know. It's hard. It was hard.

01:54:39.29
Erik Pimentel
And again, we're not saying Seaver because we never saw him play, but doc, you could say doc.

01:54:42.94
William Hernandez
Yeah, right, right, right.

01:54:44.77
Erik Pimentel
Good. And you could say the Grom, you could say, yo, hon.

01:54:48.16
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:54:49.98
Erik Pimentel
Um, how lighter maybe you could put in there, but I'm, yeah, I'm going to go with doc.

01:54:54.20
William Hernandez
Yeah, so many guys.

01:54:57.10
Erik Pimentel
I'm going to go with doc just because he was dominating, bro.

01:54:58.49
William Hernandez
okay

01:55:01.27
Erik Pimentel
Dominating when he came up, you know, uh, I'll never forget. There were, I remember seeing highlights. So he came up in 84 and i was too young, but I see that, you know, after the fact where Gary Carter caught him at Indy all-star game in 84,

01:55:17.34
William Hernandez
Right.

01:55:18.17
Erik Pimentel
And Gary Carter was talking about how, man, how cool would this be if we would do this more often?

01:55:18.14
William Hernandez
Yes.

01:55:23.42
Erik Pimentel
And then the following year, he gets traded to the Mets.

01:55:26.71
William Hernandez
Nice.

01:55:26.81
Erik Pimentel
and then And then they do that combination. our i'll ne Bro, I remember driving with my father because my father was a truck driver in the 80s, and 80s. But I remember the mural that they had at Doc Gooden in Manhattan.

01:55:41.81
William Hernandez
That's right. Yes. the night It was a Nike, Nike thing. Yeah.

01:55:44.38
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, it was it was a painting that was on the side of a building.

01:55:44.61
William Hernandez
Right.

01:55:48.85
Erik Pimentel
And it was a huge painting.

01:55:48.98
William Hernandez
Right.

01:55:50.25
Erik Pimentel
I remember passing by that almost every day because my father used, that was like the route that my father used to do. And I would pass by that every day.

01:55:58.06
William Hernandez
Right.

01:55:59.73
Erik Pimentel
Doc Gooden, for people that weren't alive during this time, that dude was, a him and Strawberry. They kind of owned New York City back then.

01:56:05.34
William Hernandez
Mm-hmm.

01:56:07.29
Erik Pimentel
um so So yeah, my guy is Doc Gooden.

01:56:07.62
William Hernandez
They did. Yeah.

01:56:11.38
William Hernandez
Yeah. i Listen, I can't argue that. I didn't go with Doc ah only because I just... i Not that it's an obvious choice, but it's, it's it's a you know, he's one of the guys that you would pick.

01:56:23.00
William Hernandez
um I went with the Grom only because ah he has such a huge impact during the time that he was here.

01:56:34.04
William Hernandez
God, remember when he made his debut against the act Yankees and nobody really thought anything of it because it was like a spot start, basically.

01:56:41.40
Erik Pimentel
yeah

01:56:42.58
William Hernandez
And look what he ended up doing when he when he was when he was with the Mets, you know? um

01:56:47.13
Erik Pimentel
and And when he came up, there was no hype because all the height all all the hype was on the other kid, and I can't remember his name, the Dominican pitcher that they had.

01:56:50.01
William Hernandez
None whatsoever.

01:56:57.53
Erik Pimentel
um that they they ended up He ended up being a reliever and a pretty decent reliever.

01:56:58.78
William Hernandez
God, don't know who you're talking about. Yes, I know who you're talking about. Yes.

01:57:04.18
Erik Pimentel
I can't remember his name, but all the hype was on him.

01:57:04.18
William Hernandez
Yes, yes, yes.

01:57:06.81
Erik Pimentel
like They thought he was going to be like the next Pedro or whatever, and obviously that didn't work out.

01:57:07.29
William Hernandez
Yeah.

01:57:10.14
William Hernandez
Right. ah Yes. Yeah, I do remember that. um Yeah, it's a shame that him and Syndergaard and Harvey... didn't really like pan out the way everybody had hoped for.

01:57:23.32
William Hernandez
But, um listen, he did get them to the 2015 World Series. you know I have to say, I thought... I was not too upset when he left only because of the injury history.

01:57:38.76
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

01:57:38.84
William Hernandez
you i like How many times did... And it seems like he's gotten past that. Knock on wood for him. cause i you know i don't i don't wish wish him any ill will, but how many How many times did it happen where he was just get breaking down all the all the time? So, um you know, it is what it is what it is, but like for a short period. Listen, his name came up in trade talks last year because they were the Texans were thinking about thinking about getting rid of him, and people were like, bring him back to the Mets, bring him back to the Mets.

01:58:08.98
William Hernandez
when that That would have not been a terrible idea, all things considering, when you look at that pitching staff but last year. so Uh, sir, you're DH.

01:58:19.54
William Hernandez
Since that is a new thing now.

01:58:22.74
Erik Pimentel
my My DH is Mike Piazza.

01:58:25.88
William Hernandez
Okay, so you put Piazza DH.

01:58:27.29
Erik Pimentel
Oh, absolutely.

01:58:27.42
William Hernandez
Okay. Right.

01:58:28.29
Erik Pimentel
piazza Piazza is one of my all-time favorite Mets. um you know But I just thought, you know he as good as an offensive player he was, he can't he can't compare to Gary Carter's defense.

01:58:39.59
Erik Pimentel
So that's why I put Carter on as a catcher. um Yeah, Mike Piazza, what could you say? I mean, another Hall of Famer. The guy you know elevated the Mets at 99, 2000. Yeah.

01:58:53.53
Erik Pimentel
um um I was at the 9-11 game. I actually called that. I remember I was sitting the first row in upper deck. It was the first game, the first game me and my wife and girlfriend at the time ever went to.

01:59:07.64
Erik Pimentel
I took her to that game with ah with two other people that I knew.

01:59:10.90
William Hernandez
What a game to go to, Jesus Christ.

01:59:12.38
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah, we went to the 9-11 game.

01:59:13.27
William Hernandez
hey its

01:59:15.10
Erik Pimentel
Because we started dating, we started dating um like three weeks before nine eleven That's when we started dating.

01:59:21.19
William Hernandez
Damn.

01:59:21.84
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. And then that and then the whole thing happened.

01:59:22.65
William Hernandez
Wow. Okay.

01:59:24.17
Erik Pimentel
But um but yeah, I remember specifically watching Carse warming up for the Braves. And for some reason, I just got ah a feeling like Piazza is going to hit a home run here.

01:59:39.35
Erik Pimentel
And I told everybody in my section, I was like, Piazza is going to hit a home run here And cause I just like, because Carse was just throwing peppering fastball after fastball while he was warming up.

01:59:45.65
William Hernandez
Nice.

01:59:50.92
Erik Pimentel
I just had that feeling. And obviously he hit that home run.

01:59:52.92
William Hernandez
yeah

01:59:54.58
Erik Pimentel
Everybody mobbed me because I called it. um But yeah, that's that's one of, I think I still got the ticket stub somewhere. that was That was a memory that I'll never forget. So yeah, he's got to make my team as a DH.

02:00:11.26
William Hernandez
So my DH is Alonzo.

02:00:13.62
Erik Pimentel
Okay.

02:00:14.58
William Hernandez
got I got it. i feel like If I wasn't going put him at first base, I had to put him at least as as the DH. Listen, I... There's nothing more I can say about him. I don't.

02:00:26.14
William Hernandez
umm I'm still frustrated about what happened. um It is what it is. he gave He gave the Mets great years here. Listen, he holds the fucking home run record for the team. That's not going away anytime soon. Soto will probably break it if if Soto sticks around the whole time.

02:00:41.37
William Hernandez
But um it is what it is. He's in Baltimore. God bless him. man Let's move on. ah I guess we're still missing the reliever, the closer, and the pinch hitter, right?

02:00:53.94
Erik Pimentel
Closer, pinch hitter. You want to add another one?

02:00:56.57
William Hernandez
Okay.

02:00:57.34
Erik Pimentel
You want to add a utility player? Because I have someone in mind.

02:00:59.77
William Hernandez
Yeah, we can do that.

02:01:00.83
Erik Pimentel
Okay.

02:01:01.62
William Hernandez
Okay, let's go with the the closer.

02:01:04.31
Erik Pimentel
So, I mean, come on. there's Edwin Diaz. it's

02:01:07.42
William Hernandez
Yeah, I picked him too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:01:08.66
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, i listen.

02:01:09.22
William Hernandez
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

02:01:10.58
Erik Pimentel
it's It's not Jerry's Familia. It's not Armando Benitez.

02:01:13.54
William Hernandez
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

02:01:15.25
Erik Pimentel
It's not Brayden Looper, bro.

02:01:15.92
William Hernandez
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

02:01:18.23
Erik Pimentel
All respect to John Franco, you know, Lafayette ah graduate. um

02:01:23.06
William Hernandez
Right, yes, yes, yes.

02:01:25.14
Erik Pimentel
but But, yeah, I'm going to have to go with Erwin Diaz on this one.

02:01:29.05
William Hernandez
Yeah, it's got, I mean, guys, it's got to be Diaz. I mean, come on, man.

02:01:31.74
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:01:32.57
William Hernandez
It's just, again, like like like Eric said, we we we, all three of us went the same high school. We all went to St. John's. You know, like, right, doing the strike.

02:01:41.50
Erik Pimentel
I mean, he was our he was our first base coach. he He practiced with us, Franco.

02:01:46.07
William Hernandez
Yeah, right.

02:01:46.87
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:01:47.86
William Hernandez
We love John Franco, but let's be real. he's no He's nothing compared to that to Edwin Diaz. Respectfully. um

02:01:55.11
Erik Pimentel
Respectfully.

02:01:56.28
William Hernandez
Yeah. Your pinch hitter.

02:01:59.26
Erik Pimentel
So this is the one that I that I kind of don't want to say struggle with, but I thought about the most. And that yeah, now that we're going with a utility guy, I'll put one of the thoughts in the utility spot.

02:02:06.01
William Hernandez
Really? Okay. Gotcha.

02:02:13.56
Erik Pimentel
But I mean, you could think they they they pick Lenny Harris, which Lenny Harris is pretty damn good as a pitch hitter.

02:02:13.65
William Hernandez
Gotcha.

02:02:19.74
William Hernandez
Uh, yeah, he's, he's not my pick though.

02:02:22.01
Erik Pimentel
He's not my pick.

02:02:21.97
William Hernandez
Let's see if we have the same guy.

02:02:22.57
Erik Pimentel
he He's not my pick. My pick is Matt Franco.

02:02:25.53
William Hernandez
Yeah. Same. Right.

02:02:28.44
Erik Pimentel
You got to pick Matt Franco.

02:02:28.37
William Hernandez
fraco right Yeah.

02:02:30.76
Erik Pimentel
Franco had some big hits. he taught You know, the the Mariano game, obviously, during the, you know, it's, you were you was, I don't even remember that shit.

02:02:35.71
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. That I was at your, at at your house for. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah.

02:02:42.68
Erik Pimentel
ah

02:02:42.94
William Hernandez
I was there for that.

02:02:44.54
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, so, so yeah, matt Matt Franco has to make the team.

02:02:44.66
William Hernandez
I was there for that. Yeah.

02:02:49.66
William Hernandez
I just, listen, we don't, here's the problem. Not a problem. Lenny Harris was an all-time great pinch hitter. Matt Frankel was an all-time great Mets pinch hitter.

02:03:03.92
William Hernandez
That's the difference, I think, in my mind. And he – what was that one year? I think he had like 15 pinch hits. It was like almost close to record, about if I'm not mistaken.

02:03:10.46
Erik Pimentel
who

02:03:13.12
William Hernandez
It almost seemed like every time that dude came up in that situation that he was going to get a hit. You know, it's it's it was it was fucking insane. So, yeah, Matt Frankel's my guy.

02:03:23.42
William Hernandez
No disrespect to Lenny Harris, but Matt Frankel's my dude. So, anyway, you're utility guy.

02:03:30.97
Erik Pimentel
So my utility guy, like I said, I thought about him as the pitch hitter because he was a pretty decent pitch hitter. But my utility guy is Super Joe McEwing.

02:03:37.50
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:03:41.40
William Hernandez
Oh, yeah.

02:03:43.29
Erik Pimentel
Super Joe. I mean, he could play left field.

02:03:43.76
William Hernandez
That's a good one.

02:03:45.78
Erik Pimentel
He could play shortstop. He could play second. I think he played center field a couple times. He owned Randy Johnson for some reason. read

02:03:53.69
William Hernandez
Right. That's right. I remember that.

02:03:55.19
Erik Pimentel
he He used to kill Randy Johnson.

02:03:55.99
William Hernandez
I remember that.

02:03:57.39
Erik Pimentel
Randy Johnson had no answer for him. So yeah, I would say Joe McEwen will be my utility guy.

02:04:03.70
William Hernandez
I'm trying to think, since we're doing this on the fly, who my utility guy would be. ah boy.

02:04:15.68
William Hernandez
Man, I don't... I couldn't even like think of a person that played a lot of different positions.

02:04:22.38
Erik Pimentel
There's a couple of Desi Relaford.

02:04:24.06
William Hernandez
Maybe, yeah, Desi Rutherford. Also, you know else that comes to mind for the outfield is Timo Perez.

02:04:29.72
Erik Pimentel
Timo Perez, yeah.

02:04:29.98
William Hernandez
because he played all he played all over the outfields.

02:04:35.27
William Hernandez
Desi Wellerford, my God, haven't heard that name in a long time. um Fuck it, I'll just go with McEwing, make it easy.

02:04:42.01
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:04:42.01
William Hernandez
cause there i mean, think about it.

02:04:42.25
Erik Pimentel
mark

02:04:42.93
William Hernandez
Who else could you really go go with, really?

02:04:45.13
Erik Pimentel
Marlon Anderson was pretty good too. Remember him?

02:04:47.69
William Hernandez
Oh, that's true.

02:04:48.79
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:04:49.24
William Hernandez
He was a good e was a good one. Remember when thought he was doing steroids that year, that particular year was with the Mets?

02:04:54.52
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

02:04:55.03
William Hernandez
Was it that year or the following year? I can't remember.

02:04:58.24
Erik Pimentel
I don't know. I think I do remember hearing that though.

02:04:58.55
William Hernandez
um Yeah, yeah. So, all right. That was fun.

02:05:05.69
Erik Pimentel
All right, put up a poll.

02:05:05.85
William Hernandez
That took a while. Holy shit.

02:05:06.62
Erik Pimentel
Let's see which team is better.

02:05:07.83
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I should do that. I should definitely do that. All right. Let's do our Mount Rushmore. This is going to be a fun one. this is You have to be a real fucking nerd ah for this one because we're –

02:05:25.98
William Hernandez
We're doing our Mount Rushmore. This was actually hard for me. ah We're doing our Mount Rushmore of jobbers, also known as enhancement talent in the pro wrestling. Because, you know, we don't like to call them jobbers anymore.

02:05:41.78
William Hernandez
But um my my number one guy was easy. Because I think it's it's he might be your number one guy as well. ah But the other three were a little bit difficult. But...

02:05:52.49
William Hernandez
started to jog my memory with some of these guys, like, like oh, yeah, okay. Those are good those are some good choices. um How about you go first with your number four jobber?

02:06:03.27
Erik Pimentel
Okay, gotcha. I got a shit ton of honorable mentions, but we can talk to about that afterwards.

02:06:08.44
William Hernandez
yeah yeahy yeah that's Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:06:08.54
Erik Pimentel
ah

02:06:09.52
William Hernandez
Yeah,

02:06:09.98
Erik Pimentel
So my number four, and some people may not remember this guy, but I sure do because he used to lose a lot of matches on Saturday morning.

02:06:16.99
William Hernandez
yeah.

02:06:17.70
Erik Pimentel
His special delivery Jones, SD Jones.

02:06:18.47
William Hernandez
Saturday morning. Holy shit. Oh, yes. Yep.

02:06:25.15
Erik Pimentel
SD Jones, he was, he, bro, he would lose.

02:06:25.72
William Hernandez
He's up there, bro.

02:06:28.39
Erik Pimentel
It was at a point that me and my brother would just laugh every time he would come up on, on the screen. Cause you know, he's about to get smashed by some bad guy, you know, or is it's going to be a squash match.

02:06:37.86
William Hernandez
Right.

02:06:39.94
Erik Pimentel
It's going to last maybe two minutes and it's over SD special delivery.

02:06:40.41
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:06:43.85
Erik Pimentel
Jones is my number four.

02:06:45.78
William Hernandez
Bro, don't forget, he lost to King Kong Bundy in nine seconds at WrestleMania 1.

02:06:49.30
Erik Pimentel
Yep. That is right. That is correct.

02:06:52.99
William Hernandez
Avalanche in the corner, done. Dead.

02:06:55.22
Erik Pimentel
Yep.

02:06:55.90
William Hernandez
So ah that was it. So my...

02:06:59.16
Erik Pimentel
Hey, you never, at least that jobber made it to WrestleMania for nine seconds.

02:07:02.46
William Hernandez
Yeah, there you go. There you go. Exactly. My number four, and this is kind of like a ah ah comedy one, it's Gilbert.

02:07:14.65
Erik Pimentel
I knew it.

02:07:17.85
William Hernandez
if For those in don' who who i remember, back when WWF and WCW were going head-to-head and when Goldberg was like all the rage, date wwe WWE would often make fun of these these characters in ah that were in WCW, in WWF.

02:07:38.72
William Hernandez
So they came up with this Gilberg character.

02:07:41.94
Erik Pimentel
<unk>ne Dwayne Gill.

02:07:42.56
William Hernandez
Dwayne Gil, yeah, he was like a riff off of Goldberg. And he would come out with like, they would show they would show like um you like sparklers.

02:07:53.46
William Hernandez
And it went like like he would burn himself or like choke on the smoke. And he got his ass kicked every single fucking time, bro. It was hilarious. Holy shit.

02:08:02.26
Erik Pimentel
oh man

02:08:03.27
William Hernandez
what at What a time that was. So, yes, I will go with with Mr. Gilbert at my number four.

02:08:11.10
Erik Pimentel
So my number three is my my number three is another guy that you saw every Saturday morning.

02:08:11.95
William Hernandez
Your number three. Yes.

02:08:17.34
Erik Pimentel
um He was a big dude and he yelled and screamed a lot, but he was garbage. And it was Iron Mike Sharp.

02:08:27.32
William Hernandez
I knew, i yeah. When you were talking about him yelling and screaming a lot, that was, i yeah.

02:08:32.34
Erik Pimentel
Guys, whoever seen if you've ever seen Iron Mike Sharp, he was a big, brawly dude, had so much back and chest hair. he had he had ah The reason they call him Iron is because he had a wristband where he was sleek slicking sneaking like a piece of iron to try to knock he' his opponents out, but he never knocked any of his opponents out.

02:08:50.87
William Hernandez
Right, yeah. Right, right, yeah.

02:08:53.98
Erik Pimentel
But the the crazy part with Iron Mike Sharp is during his heyday when he was younger, he was a pretty badass dude from what I was told, you know growing up in Canada and stuff like that, yeah.

02:09:01.66
William Hernandez
Yeah, I've heard the same. Yeah.

02:09:04.66
Erik Pimentel
So yeah, that's my number three, Iron Mike Sharp.

02:09:08.73
William Hernandez
Yeah, God, it's those Saturday mornings, man. They were, that was like Jobber City. ah stubbby w superstars.

02:09:13.94
Erik Pimentel
Oh man.

02:09:16.63
William Hernandez
You know what i' so you guys know what I'm talking about. Because that was like, we all watched that. What you never saw.

02:09:21.00
Erik Pimentel
It was that.

02:09:22.42
William Hernandez
Yeah, go ahead.

02:09:22.97
Erik Pimentel
It was that and then it was GLOW Wrestling. and was, it yeah.

02:09:25.39
William Hernandez
Right, Glow, right. I remember watching, because like, The big names never rested on WWE superstars.

02:09:31.54
Erik Pimentel
Never.

02:09:32.21
William Hernandez
Never.

02:09:32.87
Erik Pimentel
Hulk Hogan was never there.

02:09:34.33
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:09:34.42
Erik Pimentel
Maybe once as an interview or something.

02:09:35.06
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. It's the interview. Yeah. But you never, it was always like, don't even fucking know. Don Morocco versus one of these fucking jobbers was on WWE superstars.

02:09:44.06
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:09:46.10
William Hernandez
um Anyway, my number three, he's kind of a more current guy in some ways, but he kind of became like a meme.

02:09:58.81
William Hernandez
in some ways, but he actually, he actually got some, some popularity as well. And that's Mr. James Ellsworth.

02:10:06.01
Erik Pimentel
Oh, and chintzman man.

02:10:06.44
William Hernandez
Remember that dude? Do that. Don't chin guys go to the internet right now.

02:10:10.67
Erik Pimentel
man.

02:10:14.74
William Hernandez
And do a search for James Ellsworth. He is one of the most weirdest looking motherfuckers you'll ever see. I mean that respectfully.

02:10:25.46
William Hernandez
um But this guy was, you know, it was like it was kind of more in the 2010s that he kind of like made a name for himself as like, you know, the guy that got his ass beat almost on a weekly basis.

02:10:33.18
Erik Pimentel
yeah

02:10:40.84
William Hernandez
But the thing was, he he got popular, which is the weird thing, you know, and they ended up having to do something with him.

02:10:43.22
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:10:47.44
William Hernandez
I forget what they did exactly with him, but he did get more popular.

02:10:49.88
Erik Pimentel
They did some weird stuff. it I think for a while there, like, I think they made him fall in love with Carmella.

02:10:52.12
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah.

02:10:55.70
Erik Pimentel
So Carmella used to like drag him around.

02:10:58.14
William Hernandez
That's right. That's right.

02:10:59.48
Erik Pimentel
and And then when they used to have like the Raw versus SmackDown, he was like SmackDown's mascot. And I'll never forget that promo that Jericho did on him.

02:11:05.73
William Hernandez
Yes.

02:11:09.80
Erik Pimentel
That's freaking hilarious, bro. So ah I'll send it to you.

02:11:12.54
William Hernandez
remember that one.

02:11:14.27
Erik Pimentel
So it's, it's team SmackDown talking to team raw. And then it's like AJ Styles is on one side Dean Ambrose.

02:11:25.56
William Hernandez
Oh, yes, I remember this now.

02:11:25.72
Erik Pimentel
yeah

02:11:27.67
William Hernandez
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

02:11:28.06
Erik Pimentel
So that Jericho, when he had his list, when he was doing the list, oh man, bro, that that's the most hilarious, one of the hilarious promos ever.

02:11:35.78
William Hernandez
That's hilarious. Holy shit.

02:11:38.58
Erik Pimentel
Oh,

02:11:38.86
William Hernandez
Oh, God, that's good. Who's your number two?

02:11:41.30
Erik Pimentel
My number two, another another major jobber, Barry Horowitz.

02:11:47.43
William Hernandez
He's my number two as well.

02:11:48.57
Erik Pimentel
yeah

02:11:50.15
William Hernandez
He's probably one of the most well-known name ones, I think.

02:11:52.50
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, one of those guys that, you know, and so for you to be an enhancement talent slash jobber, number one, you have to you have to be really good at what you do, believe it or not.

02:12:06.36
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:12:06.81
Erik Pimentel
You know, you have number one, you have to be safe.

02:12:06.87
William Hernandez
Yes. Yeah.

02:12:09.46
Erik Pimentel
You don't want to hurt the tat duug major talent. And so Barry Harwood was that guy.

02:12:12.28
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:12:14.48
Erik Pimentel
And, you know, and I remember at one point he got a little bit of a semi push. I remember I forgot who he who he used to feud with.

02:12:19.70
William Hernandez
Right. Yes. I remember that. Yeah.

02:12:22.25
Erik Pimentel
But but yeah, Barry Harwood is the the prototypical, you know, enhancement talent jobber. um There's only one guy ahead of him that I'm thinking about. And I'll let I'll let you guys know in a minute.

02:12:33.88
William Hernandez
Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't really have anything else to say about Barry Horowitz, but it's just kind of, a though I guess maybe the one thing I will say, it's just kind of funny. Again, like like Eric said, when you're an enhancement talent, you're supposed to make the other guy look good. There's a reason why that they use these guys. But the thing is, just like like before these guys became went to WWF, they were like big names in other in the in the the old territory system. So it's not like these guys didn't know how to wrestle.

02:13:05.14
William Hernandez
It's just that they were in WWF at the time for a simple reason. That was to make the other guy look like a million dollars. so

02:13:14.49
Erik Pimentel
Yep.

02:13:14.49
William Hernandez
um Okay, I mean, i our number ones have to be the same. Have to be the same.

02:13:22.33
Erik Pimentel
so So my number one, at first you knew him as Steve Lombardi.

02:13:22.33
William Hernandez
Go

02:13:26.50
William Hernandez
ahead. There we go.

02:13:27.58
Erik Pimentel
but But then he's he turned into the Brooklyn Brawler.

02:13:28.26
William Hernandez
The Brooklyn Brawler, baby.

02:13:32.50
Erik Pimentel
ah

02:13:33.24
William Hernandez
The ultimate jobber.

02:13:34.87
Erik Pimentel
The ultimate.

02:13:35.10
William Hernandez
Holy shit.

02:13:36.47
Erik Pimentel
That dude, again, Saturday morning staple. every Every day he's catching a beat down by somebody. And it's funny because when the... You remember a few years ago when The Rock did that Young Rock show?

02:13:49.15
Erik Pimentel
i don't know if you ever saw it.

02:13:49.98
William Hernandez
yeah Yeah, I never saw but I remember so yeah i remember it.

02:13:52.54
Erik Pimentel
So in that show, he gives credit to Steve Lombardi because I think Steve Lombardi was his first match ever. It was like a dark match that he had in WWF.

02:14:01.99
William Hernandez
I'm not surprised. Yeah.

02:14:04.12
Erik Pimentel
And he's key credits Brooklyn Brawler because Brooklyn Brawler, you know, talked him through the whole match. So and that and that stuff that Brawler, like you said, you know, you have to you have to be good at what you do.

02:14:10.84
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:14:16.06
Erik Pimentel
And Brooklyn Brawler to me was the number one enhancement jobber.

02:14:19.92
William Hernandez
Dude, he was... oh ah i Do you remember... i don't know if you remember. Remember when my mom used to get the tickets from the post office and we would go to the Garden House shows a lot of the time?

02:14:29.11
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

02:14:29.66
William Hernandez
Brooklyn Brawler was almost always on those shows.

02:14:32.70
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, all the time.

02:14:33.98
William Hernandez
Like, almost all the... Dude, that guy wrestled. Hogan... Ultimate Warrior, Bret Hart, The Rock, whatever major guy from back then in that time, that dude fucking wrestled.

02:14:47.11
William Hernandez
Like, I don't even remember.

02:14:47.48
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

02:14:48.39
William Hernandez
They had, like, the fake, he won the title thing off Shawn Michaels at a house show, and then the call got reversed, just to get the pop of him winning the title at a house show.

02:14:56.22
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, but yeah.

02:14:59.83
William Hernandez
You know, what it what is isn't that isn's that the the Dusty thing, right? would you The guy wins the title, but then they reverse the decision.

02:15:05.90
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

02:15:07.42
William Hernandez
I think that's that the ah the Dusty finish, yeah.

02:15:07.77
Erik Pimentel
Yes, yes. Yes, yes.

02:15:10.34
William Hernandez
um But they did that once with him and Shawn Michaels said ah at one of these... Because I was there, I saw it, at one of these garden house shows. So, um yeah, dude, that guy...

02:15:22.49
William Hernandez
with the fucking ripped shirt and the taxi cab hat, bro, looking like dirty and all that.

02:15:24.82
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah. right

02:15:28.95
William Hernandez
Oh my God.

02:15:29.66
Erik Pimentel
I remember when they put when they first made him the Brooklyn Brawler, and actually Bobby Heenan was his manager, and he feuded against Terry Taylor, Red Rooster. and

02:15:39.72
William Hernandez
God.

02:15:40.28
Erik Pimentel
But yeah, but talk about another semi-jobber. but um But that's a perfect example of Terry Taylor was the man in the territories.

02:15:43.42
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yes, he was. Yeah.

02:15:50.42
Erik Pimentel
he comes He comes here to WWE, and he's a Red Rooster now.

02:15:51.74
William Hernandez
Yup.

02:15:54.39
Erik Pimentel
ah

02:15:54.74
William Hernandez
Right, the red fucking rooster. Yeah, listen, they did that.

02:15:56.76
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

02:15:57.86
William Hernandez
to They vinceed that to a lot of guys back then.

02:15:59.96
Erik Pimentel
A lot of guys.

02:16:00.98
William Hernandez
so what do you got What do you got for honorable mentions?

02:16:01.21
Erik Pimentel
A lot of guys.

02:16:05.53
Erik Pimentel
Bro, honorable mentions, bro. I got a bunch.

02:16:08.82
William Hernandez
Oh, boy.

02:16:09.04
Erik Pimentel
leaping Leaping Lenny Poffo.

02:16:09.38
William Hernandez
but Leapin' Lanny Poffo, who was later to the genius.

02:16:13.71
Erik Pimentel
Later, the genius. He's another one. Used to catch beatdowns all the time. So you remember Jim Powers?

02:16:20.28
William Hernandez
Yes, of course.

02:16:21.72
Erik Pimentel
Jim Powers, he was an enhancement guy.

02:16:22.52
William Hernandez
Yeah, here's another one.

02:16:24.15
Erik Pimentel
And then he teamed up with Paul Roma, and then it became the Young Stallions.

02:16:24.38
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:16:28.44
William Hernandez
That's right. Yes. Right.

02:16:30.20
Erik Pimentel
But they had a little bit of a run there, but before that, he was a jobber. So, and here's ah here's a deep cut from, and this is a WCW jobber.

02:16:41.21
Erik Pimentel
So, and they were they were a tag team, but he did a lot of solo stuff too.

02:16:41.16
William Hernandez
Oh, God.

02:16:47.06
Erik Pimentel
So Sergeant Buddy Lee Parker and Lieutenant James Earl Wright, the state patrol.

02:16:52.60
William Hernandez
I've. I've heard of Parker. Yes.

02:16:55.00
Erik Pimentel
Yes.

02:16:55.02
William Hernandez
I've heard that name before. That's good.

02:16:57.16
Erik Pimentel
Buddy Lee Parker. So he, I mean, they would come out in these state patrol outfits and they had a good act, but there were the, there were the jobber tag team.

02:17:08.30
Erik Pimentel
So when the road warriors or the four horsemen wanted to beat you down, they would bring in state patrol and Buddy Lee Parker got, after that, he got, he became one of the trainers in the power plant.

02:17:15.96
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:17:22.22
Erik Pimentel
So did him well after that.

02:17:23.45
William Hernandez
Oh, nice. Okay. Yeah.

02:17:24.76
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. And that's all I got.

02:17:27.32
William Hernandez
Yeah, for those who are unaware, the power plant was like WCW's school that they had back in the day.

02:17:32.47
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:17:34.56
William Hernandez
So my only... The only... the only There were some guys like from more modern that we... You know, Curt Hawkins. Remember him? He fucking lost. He had that long losing streak on w WWE TV for a long time.

02:17:43.86
Erik Pimentel
and Yeah.

02:17:47.83
William Hernandez
Shout out, Curt Hawkins, Mets fan. Um... Who else? ah Curtis Axel sometimes.

02:17:58.89
Erik Pimentel
Man, I...

02:17:59.37
William Hernandez
God, what a dropped, what a missed opportunity with him.

02:18:03.00
Erik Pimentel
I hated that they did that to him, bro. It's like, man.

02:18:05.02
William Hernandez
Yeah, me too, dude.

02:18:05.85
Erik Pimentel
And I i love when they get when they paired him with Paul Heyman and he won the Intercontinental title.

02:18:10.68
William Hernandez
Yes.

02:18:12.34
Erik Pimentel
And he won the Intercontinental title on his father's birthday, which which which is a cool you know little story.

02:18:12.31
William Hernandez
Yeah.

02:18:16.44
William Hernandez
Right. Yes. Yeah.

02:18:18.73
Erik Pimentel
And then they never did anything with it

02:18:19.67
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. For those who are not aware, Curtis Axel is the son of one Kurt Henning, a.k.a.

02:18:25.92
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:18:26.52
William Hernandez
Mr. Perfect. So, he actually...

02:18:28.02
Erik Pimentel
and you And you remember that dumbass name they had before he was Curtis Axel? Michael.

02:18:34.52
William Hernandez
Oh!

02:18:35.29
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:18:35.64
William Hernandez
What was it?

02:18:36.02
Erik Pimentel
Michael McGillicuddy.

02:18:38.45
William Hernandez
Yes, McGillicuddy. That's right. Yes, yes, yes.

02:18:41.54
Erik Pimentel
Jeez.

02:18:42.87
William Hernandez
What was Bray Wyatt's name back then? um

02:18:45.62
Erik Pimentel
Husky Harris.

02:18:46.90
William Hernandez
Husky Harris!

02:18:47.74
Erik Pimentel
thanks

02:18:47.71
William Hernandez
That's right! Oh, my God! Terrible. Oh, my God. my and i i guess my modern-day AEW jobber is is ah Brandon Cutler. I don't if you remember him getting his ass kicked, like, all the time at the beginning.

02:19:02.52
William Hernandez
um but Oh, God.

02:19:02.61
Erik Pimentel
Bro, just put the dark order in that list.

02:19:06.14
William Hernandez
Dude.

02:19:07.77
Erik Pimentel
How do those guys still employ?

02:19:11.69
William Hernandez
They're comedy wrestlers now.

02:19:12.01
Erik Pimentel
Well, oh my goodness.

02:19:13.08
William Hernandez
That's the problem. But they're, they're a ring of honor, which I guess that's fine.

02:19:15.77
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:19:16.80
William Hernandez
Listen, listen, once Brody Lee died, rest in peace, that whole thing, just unfortunately it was done, you know, and um unfortunately that's what kind of, what killed them, what buried them.

02:19:21.88
Erik Pimentel
Was done. Yeah.

02:19:26.32
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. Yeah, that is true.

02:19:28.54
William Hernandez
So, um, all right. That, well, I did not think were going to go this long. That's what she said.

02:19:38.42
Erik Pimentel
yeah

02:19:38.53
William Hernandez
Uh,

02:19:40.70
William Hernandez
So we will be back next week, obviously. um got to see if... I got to talk to Larry to see if he can come on next week. I think what we're going to do, if if Larry does come on, we're just going to stick baseball and just talk about the Mets and the Yankees for like an hour or so.

02:19:59.77
William Hernandez
um If anything else happens, Major Talk will talk about it, but I can't... This is a this is a weird period because...

02:20:09.08
Erik Pimentel
Not much going on.

02:20:09.61
William Hernandez
Football's over. Yeah. There's college stuff. There's college basketball, obviously, but we're just the beginning of spring training and we're not watching the Olympics. So like, you know, but by the way, I will say one thing.

02:20:23.81
William Hernandez
Shout out to Lindsey Vonn, bro, because the fact that she tried to ski with a torn ACL,

02:20:26.07
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, that's crazy.

02:20:34.45
William Hernandez
And then she was doing fine in the practice runs. And then, did you see the video of the crash?

02:20:39.96
Erik Pimentel
so I saw it at 6.30 in the morning in the gym this morning. i saw it.

02:20:43.48
William Hernandez
Oh, God, bro. She had to be airlifted off the course. And she's okay.

02:20:46.87
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:20:48.17
William Hernandez
Broke her leg. But, you know, listen. It sucks because this is probably going to be her last Olympics. And I think she's...

02:20:56.84
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:20:59.67
William Hernandez
How old is she? She's like in her 40s.

02:21:02.14
Erik Pimentel
Is she? I think she's late 30s.

02:21:02.48
William Hernandez
Lindsey...

02:21:04.78
Erik Pimentel
Say what you want about the Olympics.

02:21:05.24
William Hernandez
Oh, okay.

02:21:06.18
Erik Pimentel
And and we don't watch the Olympics, but those those guys, they train for four years for this stuff, man. and then and

02:21:12.25
William Hernandez
Yeah, no, it's crazy.

02:21:13.53
Erik Pimentel
And something like this happens, bro, and and it's like, oh, she is 41.

02:21:15.16
William Hernandez
forty one She's 41. She's 41.

02:21:17.45
Erik Pimentel
Yeah. So, yeah, this is definitely her last shot.

02:21:17.85
William Hernandez
Yeah, yeah.

02:21:20.59
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:21:21.53
William Hernandez
I mean, um you gotta you gotta, if she comes back in four years at 45, that would be fucking, odd that's impressive, bro.

02:21:27.77
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, yeah.

02:21:28.15
William Hernandez
But i i don't i don't I don't think so. But yeah, you good I'm sorry, you were saying?

02:21:31.42
Erik Pimentel
No, no. i'm just Like I say, we know we don't watch the Olympics, but there's no shot at the athletes. Those guys, you know they for for four years, they put their life on the line.

02:21:38.90
William Hernandez
Oh, no. Yeah.

02:21:42.00
Erik Pimentel
that they They train like crazy. Some some of these, especially the Winter Olympics, it's crazy. Like the skiing and and then that skeleton, I forget what they call it, that skeleton.

02:21:48.42
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. Skeleton. Yep. Yeah. Skeleton.

02:21:52.79
Erik Pimentel
Bro, you're putting your life on the line.

02:21:52.82
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah

02:21:54.92
Erik Pimentel
You're going super fast head first. Give me a break, bro.

02:21:58.42
William Hernandez
Exactly.

02:21:59.06
Erik Pimentel
No way.

02:21:59.51
William Hernandez
The crazy thing is, dude, when I was growing up, I loved watching this shit, dude.

02:22:04.85
Erik Pimentel
Mm-hmm.

02:22:04.82
William Hernandez
especially Especially the Winter Olympics because it was stuff like bobsled, the luge, the ski jumping, um the speed skating.

02:22:09.18
Erik Pimentel
Stuff you don't see.

02:22:12.41
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:22:17.34
William Hernandez
I even used to watch the figure skating because, bro, back into the 80s and 90s, figure skating was like the shit, dude.

02:22:23.77
Erik Pimentel
Yeah, Nancy Kerrigan.

02:22:24.28
William Hernandez
I mean... Nancy Kerrigan, yeah, Brian Botano, a bunch of – it's freaking insane. But, yeah, I just – I don't know, dude. Again, it's like – it's funny because it's more easy to watch now because even though the time difference, they're showing the stuff on Peacock as it happens.

02:22:42.11
Erik Pimentel
Mm. Yeah.

02:22:42.55
William Hernandez
So you don't even have to wait anymore, you know, to like the nighttime because of the time difference.

02:22:44.47
Erik Pimentel
yeah

02:22:46.23
William Hernandez
But, um dude, I was watching – I was in a gym the other day, and ah they had – It's called the skiathlon. So basically, they're doing a – everybody's on skis, and you're like racing, and you're like skiing up a hill. was actually really interesting. um But yeah, mean, I don't know. It's just – it's to your point.

02:23:10.70
William Hernandez
There's so much shit that we're watching now you know and other other sports and stuff like that and just busy at work and stuff. But you know I don't know.

02:23:18.78
Erik Pimentel
It's a different time, man.

02:23:19.33
William Hernandez
It's – yeah.

02:23:20.02
Erik Pimentel
Back then we had like eight eight channels to look at.

02:23:20.76
William Hernandez
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

02:23:22.94
Erik Pimentel
ah

02:23:23.86
William Hernandez
like Exactly. And and now we're too damn distracted. Holy shit.

02:23:27.67
Erik Pimentel
Yeah.

02:23:29.02
William Hernandez
Anyway, that's it. going to do it for us. I am Will Hernandez here for Mr. Eric Pimentel, and we will see y'all next week. Peace out, everyone.

02:23:40.76
Erik Pimentel
See ya.