CineMayhem, Set Champs, and Shift Shenanigans

This week on The Lorcana Muses, Brittany, Nikki, and Lesley are talking all things Attack of the Vines, set champs, and the latest Lorcana reveals.

We recap our weekend of local set champs, a Team Muses trip down to Tucson, and some of the highs and lows coming out of DLC. Then we dive into reveal season with iconics, team up cards, temporary shift, dual inks, and what these new mechanics could mean for the future of the game.

We also talk Beauty and the Beast, Lilo and Stitch, Ruby Sapphire dreams, and why this meta still feels wide open in the best way.

 Send us your questions for Eddie next week, and as always, happy questing! 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hello and welcome to the Lorcana Muses. I'm Brittany. I'm Nikki. And I'm Leslie.

SPEAKER_02 0:05

And we are ready to return.

SPEAKER_03 0:08

Because we have Attack of the Vine.

SPEAKER_02 0:11

I thought it was funny today how they were trying to predict where the emphasis would should be.

SPEAKER_03 0:15

So we're talking about the lore cast and they at the end, JDZ and Rochelle were trying to emphasize where they would have attacked of the vine.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

Attack of the vine. It was quite hilarious. The exclamation point is next to vine. So I think that's where your emphasis would be.

SPEAKER_03 0:36

But if you look at where the emphasis in the text, yes, a text is very large. So I was that was a fun lore cast for sure. I always love when they introduce a new set because it's always introduces like what the theming of the set. And I love the idea of it being movie themed. And I I'm like, are we gonna do like a premiere night as we do our like our intro night for our local game store? Are we like make it look like a movie theater? Roll out a red carpet, maybe make some movie posters. Kind of fun. Yeah, so so so we did snowballs and like did icicle stuff on the windows and like heaps of snow, and we had an ice cream truck come out and things like that. So maybe we'll do some like popcorn and you know, maybe make it some movie theater.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Yeah, stuff like that. That might be fun. Movie ticket entrance.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

Yeah, yeah. So I'll we're gonna have to talk to them about that and try to hype it up a little bit. I think that'll be fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

Yeah, we may have to use the term that Greg used in the floor cast day, which was Cinema Ham.

SPEAKER_03 1:52

But speaking of Cinema Ham, because even before we get into weekend update, because I'm just so excited. The bell card. The Bell card. Okay, so the the beauty and the beast iconic, I am dying, okay? I am dying. My husband is going to go broke. Well, I mean, obviously we're gonna go broke together, but because I need this Beauty and the Beast iconic, it is a beautiful card.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Well, I feel the same way about the Lilo and Stitch. Yeah, true, man. I'm very excited for that. However, I can't justify going broke for it. So I hope that I open it because it'll be the one card I'm tempted to keep that's an iconic, I think.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

You were I know, especially last last episode you were talking about. I'm gonna I sell every enchanted. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

But this one might be one I'm tempted to keep because the art is gorgeous.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

It is yeah, no, I'm I will 100% keep it if I open it. Now, if I open the Lilo and stitch, I will be trading it for the beauty and the beast.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

There you go. Yeah, we talked about that. I said what happens if we open so we want, we'll we'll trade. We're doing a direct treat. Nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_03 2:57

Okay. So weekend update before we get all into the fun reveals, because what we're gonna be able to talk for that forever forever. So af right after we recorded on Tuesday, I got sick on Wednesday. I actually like started when I was editing the podcast on Wednesdays. I like had come home early from work and I had started like not feeling well. I woke up on Thursday with a really high fever, and then I went to the doctor and I had a sinus infection. And so they gave me antibiotics, and then so I slept for 18 hours on Thursday. Wow. And I'm not somebody that sleeps like that excessively. And then I slept a lot on Friday, didn't go to League or anything. Well, we didn't have League because it was a magic. I was planning on going to go see Toy Story with the team. Like I put it out there, hey, I'm gonna go see Toy Story on Thursday night. Fully, I fully canceled those plans because I was asleep.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

Um Friday, stayed at home, stayed recovered. I woke up on Saturday morning feeling so much better. Still really tired, but like feeling like a human at least.

SPEAKER_01 3:59

Yeah, I was gonna say you rallied her Saturday, though.

SPEAKER_03 4:01

Yeah, I did. And then so I played in a set champs on Saturday at our what like at Game Outpost Mesa. I didn't do fantastic, I didn't do terribly. I think I got 12th or something. And so I didn't make top eight, so I was but Daryl did, but I went home.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

And he made top four, didn't he?

SPEAKER_03 4:17

He did. He ended up making top four, but I went home before he did that because I was like, I'm gonna go take a rest. Yeah. Because we were taking out our family for a family dinner for Father's Day and for like a thank you after my car accident and everything. And so we did family dinner, got all dressed up, nice, went to a family dinner. Shout out to the Sicilian butcher and Chandler. Also good, delicious, delicious. And then, and so, and a shout out to our families for just being awesome. And big shout out to all the dads out there. Last week we didn't say Happy Father's Day as a preview because it was on Tuesday and it just felt so far away. But happy Father's Day, everybody out there. And but yeah, as we did the Father's Day thing, and then Sunday we ended up a huge chunk of our team drove down to Tucson. Yeah, team excursion, it was a team excursion down to Tucson. We took uh three cars down, wasn't an efficient team excursion at all. As we took three cars down to go and play in Tucson because there were no uh stores in the valley that had such amps.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:16

Um, and the Tucson crew drives up all the time for such amps up in the valley, so we decided to drive on down. Had a pretty good time down there. It was a it was nice to meet some new people.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Yeah, I was really excited, and again, just reinforcing like how friendly our community is. Like they're you know, you think six people in Team Jersey showing up from like Phoenix, and they're like, Welcome, we're glad you're here. Please join us. And it's just so, so fun. I love meeting new people and met a couple people who were fans of the podcast. So shouting out to Pika Drew. Um I played him. I mean, it was a really fun game, super friendly, and and everyone was very, very nice. So thanks for welcoming us into the Tucson Games and Gadgets.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

Yes, it was it was a really fun store, and this the people that worked there were really nice, and um, it was a great atmosphere. It was nice and cold, which is not always something you can say about a game store, especially in the summer. I was actually like a little chilly, but you know, me, I'm always yeah, I always am a little chilly, but I was like, there were other people that said they were cold. So yeah, I went outside to defrost a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Yeah, I don't normally get cold, and I even though I was like, man, I should have brought a jacket. I thought that to me is better than being warm.

SPEAKER_03 6:31

Yeah, so especially in the summer in a game store.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

Yeah, because you can just walk outside for five minutes and then you'll be ready for air conditioning again.

SPEAKER_03 6:38

So but it was it was really fun. Um, I thought it was kind of interesting, like just the way that they ran the tournament different than we had up here.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

Yeah, the the top eight uh ruling was a little strange. So they ended up doing dice rolls for top eight instead of by seating. So people who were like the top four, they didn't get preference for playing first. Um and so that was a little weird, but you know, every store does things differently.

SPEAKER_03 7:05

Yeah, no, and it that's definitely true because like they have a they have tournament organizer rules that they can follow, but some of them give them a little bit more leeway.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

So yeah, I think they looked it up in the rules and it was like up to the store's discretion. I do think that to be more fair to the players, they should announce that before people play and cut to top eight, because I think that threw off a lot of people to do the dice roll. Because even the people who are there, like what they're like last year or the year before, we didn't do dice rolls, we just did it by seating. So I think if that's something they're gonna change, like I would recommend saying that before the tournament is starting, just so people are aware of that and not, you know, getting caught off guard.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

Yeah, and I think that's that's I think that's a good thing for anyone that's running a tournament in general. Like you should have your pricing laid out ahead of time. You should have what you are going to be doing for top cut, like how your tournament's gonna be run, how much time it's gonna be for each thing. Um, all of that should be laid out ahead of time.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

Yeah, and I mean it's still, I mean, the the game is relatively still new compared to other TCGs. So everybody's still learning as it's expanding. Because even when I was judging at Rec, like I realized, oh, I should have done this differently or I should have done that differently. So it's just a learning experience and not so much a criticism. More just like, hey, maybe that's something to learn from, and to say, like, if that's the ruling that you're gonna make, that should be announced beforehand. Because I know like a lot of people were just thrown off by it in the top eight. But three of our team members made top eight there. And so I think overall, like, this is just tootin our own horn, I guess. But Mises really made a good showing this weekend and did did really well at the set champs.

SPEAKER_03 8:43

Yeah, we and we so we had good showings on Saturday and on Sunday uh at different set champs across the valley. Um we had we had our teammate Nate who went to the DLC, um, and our teammate Logan went to go and judge at the DLC. But we had a bunch and a bunch of Arizona locals who went to the DLC and did very well. Um, shout out to Big Mikey Mike and the Boys is a local team of players. They did very well a lot of the Midday 2. And then a super big shout out to Eddie Coddill, who's our who's a local player who made the top 16. And he's gonna be on our episode episode next week. So if you have any questions for him, he has qualified for nationals both with infinity and score constructed. So he would be a great one to ask questions for. So we're gonna have him on next week. If you have questions, you can DM us, you can email us, you can, you know, message any of us independently. Um, give us what you want to ask Eddie next week on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

No fun. Yeah, it was a good weekend overall. Chris and I didn't get a chance to play on Saturday because we were hosting a late birthday magic day. So we played magic for 12 hours. And we didn't went and played Lord. I'm sorry, that's not online, that's not the right thing. It's fun. Well, with the right group of people, right? Because we mostly play Commander, which is, I think, more of a social like version of the game because you you're you play with four people in a pod and you're talking and you get to hang out and stuff. So that's what we usually do every year for our birthdays, is just do a commander get together and and just hang out. We like to do two-headed giant, which is like a 2v2 version. And so that's what we did all day Saturday. So we're really sad that we missed the games outpost, Mesa. But you know, as adults, everyone's so busy that it's hard to plan stuff out and planning things like two months in advance is the only way to get people to show up. So that was our plan before we knew about pre-release or not pre-release, set champs. That's it's totally fair.

SPEAKER_03 10:43

I always like to give you a little bit of a little bit of crap, you know, magic for the magic. I I say as someone who played magic before I played Lorcana. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

That's funny. No, um, I mean, we were talking about like sorting cards a couple episodes ago, and it's like sorting cards for one game is already overwhelming, but we have we're playing two different card games, and Chris, he's a deck builder, so we probably have like 50 or 60 magic decks in our house and a bunch of bulk, and then also for Lorcana. And so our half of our living room is just cards, and it's it's ridiculous. Like we're trying to get rid of bulk and stuff finally.

SPEAKER_03 11:21

But so you're rivaling like a card store basically, pretty much, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

I mean, with the amount of board games and cards we have, we could probably just open up a card shop at this point. I mean, we can do a team music, card shop, obviously, I really appreciate all the game stores we have available here because it is a lot of work running a game store. Um, you know, it's razor-thin margins sometimes, and it is it is tough. So the fact that we have a lot of wonderful ones to choose from, absolutely amazing here.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

Absolutely. Yeah, no, I I always joke about it, but I'm like, oh, it's it's so much working. It is so much so much work to have your own business at at all. And you know, gaming industry is kind of kind of crazy right now.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Yeah, and you always have to keep up with like the latest releases for six or seven different games, and every IP has a TCG these days, so it's like I don't know how people do it, but but yeah, so that was our weekend. A lot of magic and then a lot of Lorcana, because um Chris ended up making it to the top four, and it was very late and very grindy, so it was fun to watch, but man, it was a long day. Um I can imagine. What did you do for the weekend, Nikki?

SPEAKER_02 12:33

Well, I had every intention to come to the store on Saturday and just watch, but my 10-year-old had other plans. Yeah, I'm early puberty, it's not cool. So, any parents out there who know, you understand. So uh yeah, it just was a lot of ups and downs emotionally with my kid out this weekend and trying to, you know, get him calm. And I we ended up doing a little family excursion once we were like, okay, maybe we need to get out of the house, change the scenery. So uh we went and played mini golf. There's a really neat glow-in-the-dark mini golf at our local mall here, and it's really fun. But other than that, not a whole heck of a lot. Yeah, yeah. So I'm okay with that because we have a big weekend coming up. So we have family coming into town tonight, and then my son has his music showcase over the weekend. So yeah, there's gonna be a lot of stuff going on. And yes, I got my nails done, intently staring at her nails because I was like, wait, those are different than Toy Story nails. You're no longer Toy Story nails. I did these really cute planets and stars, and I love it.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

They're very cute. Yes. We'll have to put a picture on the Instagram.

SPEAKER_02 13:47

That's fine, as long as I can tag my manicurist because she's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

Yeah, so I think I mean over the weekend there was the the DLC, where we had one of our teammates there and a lot of Arizona players there. Uh but it wasn't it very interesting DLC to watch Infinity play out.

SPEAKER_03 14:05

It definitely was. Our teammate Nate, um, big shout out to Nate. We love you, but he said he played a different deck every single round. So he played, he played all through all eight rounds, and then he said he played a different deck every single round. So, like that's a really cool thing to just hear.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Yeah, the infinity meta is crazy wide right now. There's so many decks to play. There's no way for you to tech for you know, any one or two like you know, dominant decks that you usually see.

SPEAKER_03 14:34

Yeah, and so like there was definitely still like the dogs amber emerald. I I want to say it's not just dogs because there were several iterations of Amber Emerald. There was like a combo deck, there was the dogs, more traditional dogs deck, and there was like a discard deck. All three of those were kind of running around. Then we had some amber steel, we had like an aggramber steel versus a steel song amber steel, and then there was blurple, and then there was which was pretty traditional blurple. Yeah, yeah. And then there was a few iterations of Ruby Sapphire, yeah, like items the items versus the actions, and then there was blue steel, like a traditional blue steel, and then then items blue steel. I did catch an emerald steel mask.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

Yeah, the emerald steel discard. Yes, yes, the Diablo and Prince John.

SPEAKER_03 15:21

Yeah, I do not miss that memo, though you honestly that deck feels so similar to the one that there was they played in core, like there's not as many changes to that as I was expecting to see. Yeah. Like most of the other ones have like a little bit of splashed here and there. Like the action deck definitely has Olaf in it and all of that.

SPEAKER_01 15:41

I definitely feel like the Emerald Steel deck, they regretted having put so many powerful cards in there that they hard pivoted away from it and it like corrected too much. And so the following sets didn't really have any kind of support for the discard. But I can see some of it coming back now with you know the Lyle and the Joshua suite and things like that, where there are some cards coming back, but they're trying to be more careful about balancing it, which I'm grateful for because that was a nasty meta to play in.

SPEAKER_03 16:15

Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of discard. I I I never felt like it was unplayable, but there were definitely times where you just get frustrated. You're just like, I don't get to keep any cards, you can take all the cards. Yeah, and that was playing ward on the like ward is already a frustrating mechanic, but when it's a warded character that is doing other things too, correct. Yep. I that's where I have like I'm like he has he can not be exerted for this to happen, etc. etc. Right. Like at least Diablo had to be exerted.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:47

Okay. But yeah, no, that it was such a wild, wild meta. And overall, the DLC had lots of positivity surrounding it. Uh saw lots of great cosplayers. Big shout out to the casters, they did a fantastic but I was really disheartened to hear on more than one occasion that things were being stolen. Like we had a local who had his binder stolen. Um, we heard of a deck being stolen.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

Several decks.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

Several decks being stolen, and it's just not cool. It's not cool. And then then there was some disqualifications for people that were not playing correctly, yeah, not using integrity while playing. And it's just, I know it happens in every TCG, but it's just one of those things where you're just like, we want our community to be better.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

Yeah, and for the longest time, it it's like because it's a Disney IP, I feel like the people it attracts is like we felt kind of safe in our bubble of like not our community, because everyone's a big Disney fan and they love the game. But I think as the value of the cards continue to go up, you know, money makes people do really stupid things. Yeah. It's it's a hard thing to walk away from and and maintain your integrity when there's a lot of money off in gold. Yeah. And so I feel like that happened a lot in other TCGs as well, right? There's I mean, there's like the notorious story of someone eating their competitor's card and like just doing wild things because the prizing is just too good. And it it is unfortunate that it's hit our community, but also because of how much money is now like valued for these cards. I think that like unfortunately, people just have to be careful with who they trust and where they leave their things and not at all to blame anybody because it is like not your fault that people do bad things, right? But yeah, it's it's just it's so unfortunate that it's happening.

SPEAKER_03 18:43

Yeah. Well, and then the the other part of it is like the positive spin on that is like how our local community is kind of like rallying together to like gather cards back up to try to get at least some value back to our local player who lost their binder or had it stolen, one or the other. But either way, they don't have their binder anymore. And then I heard that one of the decks that was lost or stolen at the DLC, the community rallied and built the deck again so for the for one of the players so they could continue playing.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:13

Um, like just gathering cards to have a viable deck to play.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

Um, so it's just we see both sides in that balance kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Yeah. I mean, I definitely think like there is that kind of dark side to the Lorcana community where things will get stolen, but 95, I'm making numbers up, but I feel like 95% or majority of our community is like that, where we'll support each other and and like help each other out. Yeah. So I mean, I don't think that it's something to be like, oh, Lurcana's just toxic and we shouldn't play anymore, you know. It's unfortunate and sad that it happens. I feel like every game has that experience. And but I do love that our community, and I can only speak for our local community, which I every episode say how awesome they are because they are, um, has rallied to help our our player that had an unfortunate experience at the DLC.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

Yeah. And yeah, I just can't can't be positive enough. Um, and I wanna say, like, I know like there's a prominent team that had a team member got disqualified this week and they made a statement and everything. And we're not gonna like harp on that piece too much because it's not our business. Um, but I will say, like, as a team captain of a large team that doesn't quite go to the highest level quite yet, we're getting there, we're gonna get there. But um I can see the struggle when it comes to like having such a large team and lots of people competing, but knowing that when you are building a team, you you need to pick people that you feel like align with your values.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:48

And so I I can't emphasize enough how important it is to pick good people and continue to support them, but also know that people make mistakes and how you respond to those mistakes is how you move forward.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

Yeah, I do think like that they made the right call in disbanding just because they I mean, and probably it's a very difficult situation for them. And and you know, you can try as hard as you can to pick good people, but people can wear masks and pretend to be otherwise for a little bit of time at least, you know. And and I think that, you know, the decision they made probably was really difficult. And but given the past issues they've had as well, that it was a good call.

SPEAKER_03 21:31

No, and I and I I think it was a good call for them as well. I know it's probably a very difficult decision to make. Like I wouldn't want to have to make that choice. But if we had, you know, scandal after scandal that happened with our team, I would also probably choose to dismantle.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

Yeah, it's hard to and it's like you built it from your heart, right? Like just the love of the game and all these not so great things happen.

SPEAKER_03 21:54

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Uh but overall I feel like the teams that I we see Like regularly and know the names of do a good job at showing integrity and maintaining a good air of competitiveness, but also, you know, showing good sportsmanship and things like that.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

Like I heard I hear fantastic things about world class cards all the time, right? Like that's a big team, lots of very high-level players on it, but they are class act when you when push comes to shove.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

Well, you should with that name.

SPEAKER_03 22:28

Um but yeah, just things like that where you just have like very competitive teams that have a big name, but with that big name, yeah. Comes, you know, you're in the spotlight. Be classy. Got gotta be classy.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

So what you're saying is I shouldn't stack my deck at tournaments.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

I would appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

I make that a running joke because I am the world's worst liar. And if I were to ever stack my deck, I would immediately confess and disqualify myself from the tournament. First of all, I wouldn't even know how to stack my deck, but yeah, I'm like, I'm like, are you a magician? Do you know slide of hand? Like, how? I honestly like, I mean, if I played a deck like the entire set, I know my deck. But sometimes I bring a deck to a set chance that I put together like the night before, and I'll play it and I'll be like, huh, I didn't realize I put that card in there. So I don't think I could remember what my deck does enough to stack it. Like a detective's deck? Yeah, like a spicy, spicy detective that annihilates a superhero deck. Yeah, Brittany and I played each other this week.

SPEAKER_03 23:30

We did. We did play each other this weekend.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

I felt so bad walking away from that match. She had so many Judy's out. So many Judys. I like Judy'd into a four-drop that finds a detective. I Judy'd into a Judy, into a Judy, into a shift Judy.

SPEAKER_03 23:48

It was I was I was like, there is no avoiding this Judy, and I could find no removal. No.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

And every card she played, I was just like, bye.

SPEAKER_03 23:58

Yeah, no, and she found all of her removals so mean.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

I felt so bad. I'm like, I'm so sorry. No remember. No, no, sorry. She didn't apologize. She did not apologize while we were playing. I said, I'm sorry, Brittany. And then I was like, you know what? I'm not sorry, Britney.

SPEAKER_03 24:17

Yeah, no, she she she beat me so good. And I was proud that she didn't apologize until afterward. And then I was like, you still don't apologize. Yeah, I said I took it back. She did. She she took it back, but she still did it in here. Yeah. It was not even a close game. Not not even, I never felt like it was in that game, even a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Oh, I yeah, I felt really bad about that. I'd be like, Let me play five things, and then she's like, I'm gonna play my one thing, and then I remove it like the next yeah, it was bad.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

Well, and of course I didn't even see in my small things. I only had big things in the end.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

So that's why you were just playing like one card.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was like, I'm like, oh, I play on curve and my curve was high in my hand. But yeah, so superheroes loses to detectives. Good to know, right?

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Yeah. I mean, I think also you just got really unlucky with your draws.

SPEAKER_03 25:07

I really did. It was it was not it was not good draws.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

Yeah, I feel like had you found your smaller stuff early, I would have a harder time doing that.

SPEAKER_03 25:13

I don't think I had a one drop in either game.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

No.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

Maybe I did in the second game, but I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Well you know, because you had a I think one of the games you played a Mr. Incredible as a one drop, but then the other games you didn't have.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

Yeah, yeah. No, it was it was kind of wild. But yeah, overall, a superhero Ruby Amethyst is super, super, super fun to play. See? And then I keep saying the word super. Um but it's it's it's not as consistent as a tradit the traditional Ruby Amethyst list, but it has been a really fun deck to play.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Yeah, and it does all right into most decks, and I feel like it would have done okay into my too, but I think if I had had any kind of draw, yes.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

Yes. I was like, where where's my card draw? Where am I? I booked into a book.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

And then what I didn't tell you is that that's third that second book I drew another book.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

And I was like, I need other things besides the book. I appreciate the book into a book. That was fine. But I need more things after that. I was like, I found all the draw at the wrong time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

I really, I really enjoyed the detectives deck. I felt it feels way more fair than the blue-green deck that I was playing the weekend before. I was like, I never want to do that again because that felt awful to play.

SPEAKER_03 26:27

My thing was like there were at least four dogs players in the room.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

But you didn't see any.

SPEAKER_03 26:33

But I didn't see any of them when I was playing Ruby Amethyst. No, no, no, no. She didn't. No, I wanted to see them because Ruby Amethyst eats dogs for breakfast. Not always, because I played Dogs List on Saturday, my first round, and he got me. It was full, they were closed. It's the Eleanor. It's the Eleanor. So I wanted so Googly Glimmers, who is a uh local player, right? No, he's a judge. Oh, that's right. He's a judge. And he does content as well. Um, but he does he does content showing us like how card interactions work. And Eleanor was a big thing at the DLC this weekend in Infinity Play, but she's definitely a big thing in core constructed right now. So Andy played our local friend Andy. He played two Eleanor out at once, or not at once, but he played one Eleanor, and then the next turn he played another Eleanor. And her interaction is so strong, especially in that deck, because you obviously have three characters that are exerted often to do her ability. And so he had two of them out, and I have many things that have lower willpower because I have strong lots of strength with Ruby characters. But yeah, he was I had been questing away with my little evasive uh frozen. You know, my two-drop evasive frozen just kept on questing, and then he got the Eleanor out, and he's like, and he got the second one out, and he's like, All right, well, I'm gonna do one damage and then one damage with this Eleanor and one damage with this Eleanor to your two drop. I was like, that was the only thing I was questing with because it was evasive. Yeah, and it was safe until it was.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

Yeah. No, that Eleanor is not a great ad to the dog deck. I mean, it is a great ad deck for the dog. For us for us, for those not playing it.

SPEAKER_03 28:18

And I could not, for the life of me, find a character to exert the Eleanors, and I run so many of them. Yeah, I was like, I don't have an ISIS, I don't have a fro large fro zone, I don't have an Elsa.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:31

Because I need to be able to remove her off of the board as soon as possible. And then two of them is just next to impossible to handle like two damage and two and two cards and two lore.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Yeah, every turn.

SPEAKER_03 28:43

Every turn is just too much. And so it was just I it was that point I was like, okay. And then another time he had out a Emerald Chromicon.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

And yeah, it's interesting to see like dog decks back on Chromacon because I saw I played a dog deck this weekend and I saw several of them in Tucson and they were all running Chromacons. And it was like for a while people um people were dropping Chromacons because of the unekable account. Um, but it's interesting to see that it's back.

SPEAKER_03 29:08

Well, because then people had stopped running item destruction.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Yeah. And so it's such a weird cycle, right? It's like everyone runs item destruction, so they take it out, but then people stop and then they put it back in.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

Yeah. Um it's very, very interesting. But yeah, it's it's it was definitely uh fun matches. Um I had fun matches all weekend. I hadn't played against an amethyst amber deck in a while, and I played against two on Sunday, and that's not the best matchup because amethyst amber decks generally uh do well against other amethyst decks. Yeah. And so it's just not a good, it's not a great matchup. It can be can be one, but it was one of those things I just didn't couldn't find enough evasives to handle it.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

Well, and Chris was playing uh Ruby Am, but different like cards, like the more a more traditional and less super focused deck. And he had a little bit more success against those kinds of decks because I think that that more traditionalist has a lot more answers. It does, it does, for sure. And so it's like it is interesting, and I really enjoy the fact that even though you have the same color combination, you can build so many, like such a variety of decks because in uh Emerald Amber, I I don't ever say them in order for whatever reason, but you have toys and dogs, and like there's a lot of different variations and and some in between, you know. And so I think it's really cool what this meta has turned into this set.

SPEAKER_03 30:32

Yeah, and I want to say like the two Amber Amethyst decks that I played were vastly different.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:37

So like that you can't you can assume that they might be playing certain cards, but you can't always expect it.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

Yeah, I mean, even just one set ago, you know, somebody would play a card and you'd be like, I know exactly what you're playing. Probably the deck list down to like the same 50 cards as like every other deck list, right? And everybody has their spicy tech. Our teammate Mikey always has spicy tech, and it's very interesting to watch what his crazy mind can do. But a lot of people change out like four to six cards. Yeah. Uh but last set, as soon as you see a card, you're like, I know exactly what you're playing, essentially. This set, I have no idea what's coming next, you know? It's like, what are you playing? I like it's crazy. It's cool.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

No, I really like how vast and different everything is. And I I mean, I've been playing around and just playing superheroes, right? Like, but it's in general, like for a themed deck has done surprisingly well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

No, you, I mean, you're a phenomenal player, so I am not surprised that you're doing well. Thanks. So honestly, though, I don't know if you've been keeping track, but this weekend was the first weekend that I kicked your butt at any like tournament because like we play, we practice a lot together and like we go back and forth, you know, because we're trying different decks and stuff. But when it comes to a tournament, somehow I always seem to lose to you when we play together. I hadn't noticed, but I'm glad that you got the winner. Well, you've secretly been my arch nemesis all along. No, I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_03 32:07

So you had to take me down with your villainous detective.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

I did, I did. No. I'm so glad I just was because you're such a phenomenal player. And so I yeah, every time we match at a tournament, I'm like, it's gonna be an uphill battle. And like we always end up going like one, two, or like I'm almost there, but never quite.

SPEAKER_03 32:25

And well, this time you two-owed me so fast.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

It didn't even take that long. That's right, because we still had time to go out and eat pizza. Which that pizza place was delicious, delicious. Yeah, it was very good pizza. Did not expect that because it's small pizza, but you know, it was actually really good. You never know.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

Okay, so this set has been awesome, and we still have two more weekends of set chance. Yeah, but our next set is fast approaching, and we are now in reveal season. Yeah, yeah. We got a lot of sneak peeks today. We did, and we can't talk about all of them just because we don't have time. We went, we will never have time to talk about every card. But overall, I want to talk about like some mechanics. Yeah. The team up mechanics. Yes, right? So the team shift, like there's a few different variations of it too. It's not just one, but like we have the team cards along with the glorious beauty of the team.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

What are we gonna be dreaming about?

SPEAKER_03 33:21

I will be dreaming about it. I'm like, I will be playing Ruby Sapphire. Now I will not, if I open the iconic, I will not be playing with the iconic. No, I can imagine that you would be. No, that one will be going in the case, but um, I will be playing with the other versions of it because I think that looks fun. That's interesting, but that's so not your colors. I'm not Ruby, yes. I've played Ruby Sapphire, yeah, but not a traditional list. This one. I'm surprised. Um, I played Ruby Sapphire with Maximus and Alice and then did like Maximus shenanigans, which I've been doing Maximus shenanigans uh over the last couple of days.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

It was so fun. Yeah, well, sorry, now I'm changing the subject back to this weekend because she did the Maximus. I was sitting next to her with Mr. Incredible because Mr. Incredible gets plus two for every other character. Yep. Um and so people were like, You gain what? And they're like, five Lord? Can I read that card? Because it was she gained five lords twice, one game, I think, right? Yeah. And they were just like, Yep, the game's over.

SPEAKER_03 34:23

Yeah, it was like a huge thing, right?

SPEAKER_01 34:25

It's like putting a four-turn clock on the board. Yeah, yeah. Not even that sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

Not even that, because then you can quest it the next turn, right? You play it and you don't have the quest at that time, but if you quest to the next turn, then it gets an it he get himself gets two additional war, too. It's it's it is it's uh it like swings deck swings decks.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Yeah, I'm I watched you play someone that was like, I felt like they were thinking, oh, I'm gonna win this, and then you drop the Maximus and they're like, What does that card do? Which is funny because he's about to be rotated out. Yeah, he's been around forever.

SPEAKER_03 34:53

He's been around forever. And I've put him in a few decks here and there because it's just a fun card.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

Yeah, but yeah, I think the Mr. Incredible really makes it work because in the past it's just been really hard to get characters over 10 attacks. Yeah. Um, but the Mr. Incredible just does it naturally.

SPEAKER_03 35:09

Yeah, no, you just have to two other characters out. And like so it's not that hard, especially when you're playing, you know, big enough characters to stick around.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

Yeah, okay. Sorry, I totally changed the subject. My ADHD brain was like the Maximus thing, the Maximus thing.

SPEAKER_03 35:23

Yes, but yeah, so the Ruby sapphire is that just because I want to play the beauty.

SPEAKER_01 35:27

Yeah, I'm sure it'll be interesting because I I say it's not your color, but really it's the sapphire part because I don't really see you play sapphire.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

Yeah, and I could but which is funny because I've played Blurkle before, I've played Ruby Sappher, but it's always because I want to play the Amethyst side or I want to play the Ruby side.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Well, not always, but a lot of times you end up going back to Ruby and Amethyst.

SPEAKER_03 35:48

Yeah, or Ruby Amber, which is I've played both of those.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

So that's why I'm like, yeah, it's it's a different play style for sure.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

So the team up cards and then Dual Inks are back. Duel Inks.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

And I think the most interesting one is the Christopher Robin and the honey effect.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

Oh, yeah, because it's like the if you have him in there, you can play any. So it's like you could almost build a rainbow deck.

SPEAKER_02 36:12

Um well, only with honey characters. Right, honey characters. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 36:15

So yeah, this one is gonna be interesting for judges all the time. I think having deck quests, and I'm like, there's gonna be so many judge calls about this Christopher Robin.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

I'm like, judges get ready. Do you just have to take your opponent's word for it? Because you just put one Christopher Robin in, and then you could do any Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

I'm wondering if there's gonna be specific rulings about like you have to have four of them or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

Yeah. I know Rochelle and uh JDZ were talking about it should be a base of uh a blurb deck, but then you can have those other honey characters or classification, I should say, in the deck. So I think you still have to have that base amethyst sapphire.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

Yeah, but I feel like that would be like limiting and not the purpose of that card. Because if you have enough honey characters, then you could literally build a rainbow dark, yeah. Like, you know, we we do four of not singletons. And so I I don't know. It it's like if if that was what they were gonna do, then they should have only quote unquote printed honey characters in like purple and blue. Yeah. And they didn't.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

I mean, the the ones that they, you know, uh showed off with it. Yes, the Winnie the Pooh is, but the Tigger is is Ruby, the roux is Emerald. So Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

I guess we'll have to see what might come after that. Yeah, I wasn't excited for Blurple until I saw that because I was I uh this said in the last set. Um I've been playing Blurple and it just has let me down. But now I'm like, ooh, Blurple with splashes of other colors. Maybe we can get back and play this again.

SPEAKER_03 37:49

Yeah, so the Ruby sapphire cards, or at least the the Gaston from the Ruby side, like which looks super cool, the art on it for the new for the vinylings, right? Like I was like thinking in my head, oh, I'm gonna make a Beauty of the Beast themed deck, and so the Ruby Gaston was in my hood because that also got revealed.

SPEAKER_02 38:08

What are the vinylings? So basically, they're what they explained was is they're copies of other characters, and they have the ability to make floodborne characters better. That was what they had talked about. Because if you'll notice, like the characters' eyes are like green, they're glowing, um, and their abilities are to help your other floodborne characters that you have on the board. So I think it'll be interesting to see if they make it into decks. I mean, the art is amazing, yeah. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 38:41

I mean, we said this last one episode ago or something, that like the art in this game just keeps getting better and better every set.

SPEAKER_03 38:48

So I'm not surprised that it's just so And then they revealed the best iconics ever.

unknown 38:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

The cinematic had like a little bit of a bias.

SPEAKER_02 38:59

Is it so?

SPEAKER_03 39:02

We knew as soon as this was gonna happen, as soon as they put out a bell or beauty and the beast full yes, like that. I was gonna be biased. It was not even anything.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

I mean, I I really like the Lilo and Stitch iconic, but I don't know if I would say it's the most gorgeous one. I think the most gorgeous one, in my opinion, is still the Moana iconic. It's just the papercraft art is just amazing.

SPEAKER_03 39:24

It is very beautiful, but have been it's not beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

I was saying the beast. I said, about the Lilo and Stitch one and that. I was like, oh my god, have you seen beasts?

SPEAKER_03 39:35

Yes. Um but I yeah, so I really the team up stuff is kind of interesting because like the mini mini mouse and Mickey Mouse one that got revealed, I want to say it was IGN that revealed that one today, which their shift cost is zero.

SPEAKER_00 39:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:51

But you have to shift it on both mini and Mickey. Yeah, I'm curious how like how you do you have to like stack them underneath it to shift it? Like, do you have to put it on top like in the middle between them?

SPEAKER_01 40:02

Yeah, I have a big question on that too, because if you think about it, if let's say you play um a mini, it's mini and Mickey, right? Yeah. So if you play like a mini that's dry, but you have a Mickey that is wet, like you quest with one when you shift it, like will it be exerted? Like that is that's we definitely need some clarification on that.

SPEAKER_03 40:23

Okay, yeah, so like well, this is my thoughts though, because you can shift on like you can play a character and then shift on them like in the same turn, yeah, right? So I'm gonna assume that if any of the base characters are wet, that the top character is wet.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Yeah, so I see that, but like what I mean is if you quest with a dry character and you have a wet character, so one's exerted and one's not, and you shift on top, which game state do you take, right? Because I feel like you guys want me to read the text?

SPEAKER_02 40:55

Maybe it might okay. So it says duo shift zero. You may pay zero to play this on top of two of your characters, one named Mickey and one named Mini Mouse. So that doesn't clarify the Yeah, it doesn't clarify Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:11

So if you quested with that one drop mini mouse that came out this set and you played a like a dry I draw or Mickey, that's like the Mickey that's drying, right? So you you've quested with the mini mouse, you played the Mickey this turn, and then you shifted. I would think it's still drawing.

SPEAKER_01 41:31

But that would be like that would be so crazy because imagine like you can quest with a character, shift on top, and your your new shift target is safe, essentially.

SPEAKER_03 41:41

Yeah, yeah. No, there's definitely we're not to wait on our guide call.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

Yeah, well, and they I hope they clarify it soon because there's not very much turnaround time from deck to national. And so I imagine the judge calls for nationals is gonna be really confusing if they don't get a ahead of like clarifying the rules. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

But also an IP that we didn't talk about last time that that we forgot, I think because they told us it was coming, but I just had forgotten that it was coming, was the turning red. Turning red. Oh yeah, and they had told us it was coming. Yeah, last time we were talking about Monsters Inc. Are we talking about up? Yeah, but we didn't think about turning red.

SPEAKER_02 42:18

Yeah, and I think it's got some really neat playability because they're introducing temporary shift.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

Yeah, the temporary shift is really interesting.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

Very interesting. I think it's pretty cool so that way it says to play this on top of one of your characters named Mailen Lee. At the end of your turn, remove all damage from this character and return the card to your hand. So it's constant playability with a ship a shift three. That sounds so fun. I know, it does. It does.

SPEAKER_03 42:51

I I I it sounds like so much fun. And I really like that it's in Ruby for that. And like it's inkable. And it's inkable. I was like, I like that it's in Ruby, I like that it's inkable, and it's nicely stated. Yeah, yeah. I like that it's kind of like bouncing back to your hands. Yeah, I love bounce mechanics, right? Like so.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

I always really liked like in Amethyst, they had like the hey hey, that when you had challenge, it goes back to your hand or the nibs, like that has always been really interesting to me. But in such a fast game, some like wisps, will it be, but with like such fast games, it's like momentum loss is always a concern. Yeah. Being able to shift because if you play a card and you bounce it back and you don't play it again, you've lost kind of like some of your momentum. But in this one, you keep your base card and you just keep shifting every turn.

SPEAKER_03 43:35

So yeah. No, I I think it's really cool. I also, so somebody texted me of one of the cards earlier because they're like, This is so you, and I was like, What do you mean? So they sent me the the Sully and Boo team up card. It's super cute, but it is he was not wrong about the play style because it is very similar to the things that I have played before. So it's a combo shift. And so it you can play it on top of Sully, Boo, or one of each. Okay. Um and then when this character is banished, if any of the other of the cards that were under them are character cards, and we play those characters from your discard for free.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

So I mean, as someone who played Mufasa like a lot, like play characters out for free and for discount and things like that's always my play style. So I will definitely be trying that out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:25

Yeah. So the different shift mechanics because I sort of listen to the Lorchouse, but I'll be honest, I never retain the information. I took note. Yeah. No, Chris is my note taker and he tells me things all the time, and I'm like, that's really cool. And then I don't retain it. But there's different I I heard that there's different types of like shift together, right?

SPEAKER_03 44:47

Yeah, so this one's a combo shift.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

Which means you could do either or.

SPEAKER_03 44:51

It says you may pay forward to play this on top of one of your characters named Sully, one named Boo, or one of each.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

So why I guess in that case, my question is like if you could do it on top of one or the other, why would you do it on both? In this card specifically.

SPEAKER_03 45:05

In this card specifically, it's because you it's helpful because you would want to play it. Yeah. You would want to be able to play those characters again from your discard.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

But have we seen other combo shifts where you get to decide? Like, I guess maybe their idea of that is that there's an advantage to doing both, but you could also get away with doing it under one.

SPEAKER_03 45:22

Yeah. So I think it's like, hey, if you don't have both of them out, then you can do it just or over one or the other.

SPEAKER_01 45:28

And then there's the like, you know, the beauty and the beast or other cards that are like shift together where you or the mini and mini where you have to have both right there. Yeah. Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 45:37

So or like the madrigals, right? That's a magical shift.

SPEAKER_01 45:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:42

So it has to be it has to be a madrigal. So it's so that one is specifically it it's just using the the magical family.

SPEAKER_01 45:51

The magical family. So interesting. Yeah. I like that they're they're opening that key, the shift keyword to so much variety. Yeah, I agree. It's definitely interesting. It's gonna make for some really confusing judge calls, though. I can already see that happening.

SPEAKER_03 46:05

Um yeah, so uh the other one that I was super excited is Peter Pan and Tinkerbell.

SPEAKER_01 46:09

Oh, that's such a good combo.

SPEAKER_03 46:10

It's a good combo, yeah, and the art is so pretty. It's also Ruby Amethyst, so I'm I'm always buying it.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

You're all you're all for it.

SPEAKER_03 46:19

But I was like, oh, there's already cards that this would work on because like they reprinted the Peter Pan. Um and so he's gonna be sticking around. I mean, he's a three-drop, and this is a shift four, and it gives all of your other characters evasive when you shift.

SPEAKER_01 46:35

Nice. So that's really very on theme because the there's a sorry, there's an amethyst Tinkerbell that is evasive, right?

SPEAKER_03 46:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

And then the Peter Pan, the ruby one that's evasive as well.

SPEAKER_03 46:48

Yes. So then it's kind of it's it is on theme, and I think the Tinkerbell is actually rotating. Oh, is it?

SPEAKER_01 46:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:54

So I think, but but they still have the Peter Pan.

SPEAKER_01 46:56

So gotcha, gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

Um, but yeah, no, I thought that was I just liked that idea.

SPEAKER_01 47:01

Well, and in the past they've always they've had Peter Pan cards that are like give things evasive. Give yeah, so I mean Peter Pan shadows.

SPEAKER_03 47:08

Yeah, and Tinker Tinkerbell, there was an emerald Tinkerbell that did that two ones.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

Right, when she quests. No, on entry? Uh when she quests. Maybe it was she quests. Maybe it would have been on entry. When she quests, so long ago. It was like set one, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was like, it's been a while since we played that card.

SPEAKER_03 47:24

I did play that card. Yes. I do too. So yeah, I'm very, very excited. One of the dual duos that's looks really fun though is the Darkwing Duck and Launchpad. That one's just fun because you know, ducking duck. And theming. And theming. When we're talking about good teams, that's definitely one that I think of when we're and of course the um Woody and Buzz.

SPEAKER_01 47:46

You can't have you can't have a duo without the best buddies.

SPEAKER_02 47:49

Yeah, so the other announcement that they did hint that they do have like 20 plus sets in the works. That there's sets enough through 2029, which I thought was just insane to think that far ahead. But that they did talk about that today.

SPEAKER_03 48:06

It's which is exciting, it's exciting because we were nervous when the game first started because all games that start generally like only playing out for the first year to make sure that they're gonna still be viable. But I'm glad that they've planned that out. Like that they've seen that there's enough of fan base here.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

Yeah, well, and I'm excited for the cohesiveness of like introducing new keywords or mechanics, and it's gonna be like planned out and gradual versus I noticed in the early sets and like later sets, there's some like disparity between you could clearly see the vision changing between sets. You know, they might have tried to set something up in an older set and then it didn't pull forward into the newer sets. And I say that about like locations, they came out with locations and then there wasn't a lot of support for it. And I think the team was like changed in like between sets. And so the vision of like the older team didn't really carry forward, which you know, of course, is expected. But if they plan the sets out that far ahead, I feel like there's gonna be more cohesiveness with sets to be.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

Carl. Carl.

SPEAKER_01 49:23

Yeah, because up the up cards are a lot of locations. Locations, yeah, which I'm excited about because I hope that locations is a viable thing. As soon as McDuck Manor came out, I was ready to be all in on locations. I love the Jim Hawkins into a four-draw. It's such a fun card, so fun. And I hope that they reprint the Jim Hawkins.

SPEAKER_03 49:42

Oh, yeah, yeah. I played just in time, Jim Hopkins RLS Legacy. Yes, I remember. It was the most fun.

SPEAKER_01 49:51

And that was a decade super dupe fancy.

SPEAKER_03 49:53

I did have super open that. So I would I was getting so much value out of that.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

Yeah, it was it was so fun. But yeah, I I loved that like red blue. I built red blue locations with the Triton. And yeah, I'm I'm super excited. I hope that locations gets more support moving forward.

SPEAKER_02 50:09

It seems like it is, especially they did hint, you know, that Paradise Falls was gonna play a big factor into the the up card. So we'll see how that goes. Yeah, just I love this game.

SPEAKER_01 50:21

Yeah, I do too. It's it's so pretty.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

But talking about the future, they did give us a little glimpse at um Hyperia City, which will be our Q4 set with Coco being one of the main IPs. I don't know if they mentioned anything else.

SPEAKER_03 50:36

I didn't hear any. I don't think so. I think just I think it's just Coco.

SPEAKER_01 50:40

Yeah, where is Hyperia City from? Is it Coco or no? I think that's just their name. Yeah, okay. Sorry. I thought I was like fake Disney fan. I don't know what Hyperia City is.

SPEAKER_02 50:52

No, that's the name of the next set. We will have Into the Ink Dark.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

I do like that they're originating like a story or I love the story because I want to see like because we have these books, the story books that they're selling, right? And they're trying, they're building out this realm of Lorcana and telling a story within the story.

SPEAKER_02 51:13

Yeah, it's really, it's really cool. The glimmers and you know, yeah, ink I will say this art on Hades is so cool. So cool. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:28

That was coming up, and so like that was definitely a good prediction.

SPEAKER_01 51:30

Yeah, yeah. Um, they did also reveal the set chant card is not going to be matching correctly to the set.

SPEAKER_03 51:38

Well, and they meant they talked about it after Rochelle talked about it, how because they wanted the set, they wanted the Rapunzel art to stay vertical, which is why they didn't make it the mat.

SPEAKER_01 51:48

It's so interesting because like I don't know anything about graphic art, but can't you just blow it up to be like I don't know?

SPEAKER_03 51:56

Yeah, that's just what they said that they that they had it be vertical because Yeah, because I really like I like the the mat a lot.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

Yeah, I don't I don't know how I feel about the card not matching the mat this set.

SPEAKER_03 52:12

It's it's it's gonna be something it's something to be experienced. Yeah, for sure for sure. It's something they ain't used to. Yeah, but as someone who's a big Lilo and Stitch fan, are you excited for the preview of Q1? Q2. Oh yeah, Q2. Yeah, it's just yes, I did.

SPEAKER_01 52:32

I saw the Leroy. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 52:35

So yes, the bad stitch.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

Yeah, I mean, Stitch questionable, whether he's good or bad. Your badness level. Your badness level. I have a shirt that says my badness level is unusually high for how small or for my son. Um I love wearing that shirt. So yeah, I'm super excited for this.

SPEAKER_03 52:51

Yeah, I was like, I was I thought about you when that got revealed.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

But it's me, a Lelo and Stitch fan.

SPEAKER_03 52:57

Who would have known? But yeah, so moving forward, uh, next week we'll have Eddie on the podcast. So make sure you send us in your questions for him. He's a fantastic player, uh, both in Infinity and Core. And then we're gonna get we'll have so many reveals between now and next week that we'll have lots to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

All right, and with that, happy questing.

SPEAKER_03 53:21

Happy Questy.