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Is the Eagles' defense the new gold standard in the NFL? Get ready for a thrilling recap of the recent Super Bowl showdown, where the Philadelphia Eagles delivered a defensive spectacle that left Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs scrambling. We're joined by Chad from California, who shares his predictions and reactions to the Eagles' unexpected dominance, with standout performances from Jalen Carter, Josh Sweat, and Jordan Davis. Listen as we scrutinize the Chiefs' lack of offensive adjustments and question Andy Reid's game strategies."
"Jalen Hurts silenced his critics with an unforgettable Super Bowl performance, showing his growth from his college days to a force on the NFL stage. We break down his precise gameplay and highlight his impressive passes to AJ Brown and Devontae Smith, comparing his skills with quarterbacks like Joe Burrow and Josh Allen. The discussion takes a critical look at Andy Reid's decisions, particularly relating to offensive line management, which proved pivotal in the game's outcome."
"Our conversation takes a lighter turn as we explore the cultural influence of Super Bowl halftime shows and the significance of selecting performers that truly resonate with local audiences. We ponder missed opportunities, such as featuring Lil Wayne in New Orleans, and celebrate past performances that nailed the regional vibe. Shifting focus, we dive into potential NFL trades, spotlight promising college football prospects, and shake up the NBA world with a surprising trade involving Luka Dončić to the Lakers, setting the stage for an exciting future in basketball.
and welcome everybody to another episode of real talk.
Speaker 2:Doc, you doing all right today yes, I am, I'm doing, I'm doing well, man, and we're honored to have Chad in California, one of the most knowledgeable callers on Shine On Sports and other Mad Dog radio shows man, Denver Broncos fan, and he's a guy that knows his stuff stats, numbers, you know big Florida State football fan, denver Nuggets fan and a Denver Broncos fan. So welcome aboard, chad. It's an honor to have you. God bless you.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir Doc, it's an honor to be here. You know, talking to a legend and my guy Marlon, you know big time fans and it's just an honor, man, I'm happy to be here. Let's do it. Let's do it, baby.
Speaker 2:What you got? Marlon, Absolutely All right.
Speaker 1:So obviously, with the game last night, super Bowl, it was not the game that we expected. I think most people just kind of know what Mahomes can do, what he's done in the past, and you definitely thought it would be a pretty good fight. I thought these teams were, for the most part, evenly matched, give or take a position or two, but nobody saw this outcome. So, chad, we'll go ahead and start with you first.
Speaker 3:Who? So, chad, we'll go ahead and start with you first. Who did you have winning and what were your thoughts on the game? So I had Philly winning, but I'm not going to take a victory lap and pretend I knew it was going to be a beatdown like this, because that would just be crazy. You'd be lying to say that I had 31-27.
Speaker 3:I thought it was going to be close. I thought at the end of the game Philly's defense would make a play. I predicted a strip sack from Jalen Carter, the kid out of Georgia who Doc knows all about. You know, I thought something like that was going to happen. So I guess you could say I was kind of right as far as thinking that you know the defensive line would win the game for him. I just didn't know it would be four quarters of that. I thought it was just going to be that one last drive where everyone thought Mahomes was going to put that you know touchdown on the board and the D-line was going to come through. But no, they said no, we're about to just take this game over from play one.
Speaker 3:I mean, did you see that they didn't cross the 50-yard line? Not only did they not score, they didn't cross the 50-yard line in the first half. Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs we're talking about, like the new Patriots, the new dynasty. This never happened to Brady. I was shocked, and the crazy part is they held Saquon and check. They did everything to win the game, except they couldn't move the ball. That Philly defense I've never seen nothing like it. Them boys must have been on steroids or something. It was crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely Good analysis, brother. It's one of those greatest dominant defensive performance in the history of the sport man, and that's including the 85 Bears when they destructed the Patriots 46-10. This is Patrick Mahomes and I think you'll all agree. When you saw the offensive pass interference on the Eagles' first possession go awry, you know you thought, okay, here we go again with the rest. But no, they came back from that and you referenced the defense man, jalen Carter. It wasn't so much an effect as far as sacks, but drawing double teams. He got his teammates. You know Williams and the other cat had two and a half sacks.
Speaker 3:Even Jordan Davis. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:That's right. Josh Whitman, big Jordan Davis, at 350, had a sack. It's one of those things where I blame Andy Reid and that staff for not addressing the offensive line and, you know, sliding people and keeping it back in. You got to attempt to run the ball, you know, and to hold Patrick Mahomes to one, the number one QBR rating, quarterback rating in the first half is atrocious. I don't want to hear the more goat talk, you know. It's one of those things where now you've got to bring Joe Montana back into the fold. Who has somehow forgotten that. You know, in this goat talk relative to Brady and Mahomes, but a percentage of one on a QBR for the entire game Chad a QBR rating of 11. I think they had 23 yards of offense in the first half.
Speaker 2:You'd be mistaken if you don't think this is one of the greatest defensive performance, might even be the greatest, given that in today's NFL, with all the offensive rules, their favorite offense it was shocking man. And then the kid Cooper DeGene, you know, on his birthday, returned to pick six and the very next throw that Mahomes made he got picked off by Zach Baum, first-team All-Pro, who was a former special-team star. This was as bad as Mahomes has ever looked. Forget the 14 pressures and the six sacks. Where was their offensive line and adjustments? I'm blaming Andy Reid on this man, you know. We know the Eagles defense Matt, chad and Marlon was a dominant force, but this is one of the all-time performances ever. And then on offense, the giant offensive line with Mekhi, beckton and Mayolata, lane, johnson and Juergens, they did their number.
Speaker 2:As far as protecting Jalen Hurst, One of the most running game, you know, barkley ran a little late. Credit Jalen Hurst and Chad. You know this. You know the football. It's that people question this kid that he couldn't throw the rock. You know. Now, two years ago he ran for three touchdowns and yesterday he ran for one. But he threw two Perfect dimes to AJ Brown. Perfect dimes to AJ Brown, perfect dime to Devontae Smith. Just a total dominant performance. And you just got to give it up to that Eagles team man, sirianni, who I criticized in the past. Fellas, this guy's buttoned up. They love him down there in Philly or up there in Philly if you will and he's taking his team to Super Bowls two out of three years and won one. So props to Sirianni and that staff, especially the O-line coach for Philly. Man, dominant performance. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. And one thing too, and I'll kick it back over to you Chad when we talk about a guy like Jalen Hurts, I think that we obviously know Mahomes is, and if you look at that top three, you would always say Mahomes, josh Allen, lamar, whatever order. You know Josh Allen, lamar, lamar, josh Allen. But it's Jalen Hurts quietly doing it and you know some people love him because he's quiet and doesn't say much and some people, you know, want him to be outlandish like some other quarterback.
Speaker 3:So what does this mean for Jalen Hurts, Chad and his future, going forward as solidifying himself as one of the best quarterbacks in the league. So I think you know it solidifies him as a gamer. I don't put him in the conversation as if I start a team tomorrow. You know what I mean. There's going to be a list of guys. I'm taking Burrow, I'm taking Allen, I'm taking Lamar, I'm taking Mahomes, but I know that if I have Hurts as my quarterback, I have a chance to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3:Doc referenced it two years ago when they played each other. It wasn't Hurts' fault, they lost. Hurts was the best player on the field. He almost won that game single-handedly. I think he outplayed Mahomes in that game as well, and I do credit Sirianni as well. I've criticized him a lot. I'm still not really sold on him, but it's hard to not be sold on a guy who just won a Super Bowl and took it to the Chiefs like that. You look at a guy like Jalen Hurts and even yesterday did he take the game over? I wouldn't say that, but I would say that he made the plays when they had to be made and he didn't turn the ball over. Besides that one bad interception where I think he got a little spooked. He didn't want to get hit.
Speaker 3:But, besides that, like you said, the ball to AJ Brown. He saw Devontae Smith off the line. By the way, I had an anytime touchdown bet for Devontae Smith and as soon as I seen him burn that DB I said throw the ball, jalen, throw the ball.
Speaker 3:So you know, you know great throw there and, like you said, he led the team in rushing and he picked up big yards when he had to and just kept the ball away from Mahomes. That's how you beat the Chiefs you keep the ball out of Mahomes' hands and I think Hurts did a good job of that. I don't know if Hurts wants to be I mean, I guess everyone wants to be known, as you know the best in the league but I feel like Hur guy like Stafford, who's just underappreciated his whole career. But when he retires you're gonna look back and say that dude, put some numbers up. You know a la Stafford, a la a guy like Big Ben, or you know someone like that who's going to get a couple rings and have a Hall of Fame career. But we're not going to look back and say Hurts was one of the best, but he is a gamer and I'll take him on my team any day, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Great dialogue there, man, great dissertation. It's a different style of game relative to Hurts. He had the same game in Alabama and then he transferred to Oklahoma and put up numbers. So it took him a few years to develop into the guy he is. If you want to win, I think if you look at his overall record since he became the Philly starter, it's up there in the 70th percentile. It's not pretty. He'll make some throws. He'll make some bad throws in the regular season, but in a big spot, as you referenced, jack, two years ago he had a huge game. He might have been the best football player on the field and I think in that particular game it fueled Jalen Hurst for this game, even though he said otherwise.
Speaker 2:His arm talent is underrated. He's not the basic pure passion, marlon, if you will, but he makes just enough plays with his arm talent that you say, well damn, we didn't know he could do this. But we all know it because we saw him in college make those plays. You know about his legs, his underrated speed, but he's just a different kind of cat and, like Chad just referenced, you're not starting a team with Jalen Hurts. He's top six or seven right now if you want to do that name because you got Burrow, you got Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and you got some others up there. You know that you can say, oh, I'll take over Jalen Hurts to start a team, but if you want to win a big spot and a complimentary points or a big role like Saquon and AJ Brown, you take Hurts, you know, and take it from there. But the defense was otherworldly, brother. You can't even deny that.
Speaker 1:All right, and Chad, this is the part of the segment where, Doc, I don't know if you have anything to get it off your chest. Do you have anything?
Speaker 2:Yes, I do, man, and it's relative to Andy Reid. When you start talking about three-peat and he's putting your name in history, you got to make certain adjustments. How the hell do you not help out the offensive line, knowing they're going against one of the better defensive lines? They didn't even blitz. I blame this solely on Andy Reid. And to help out Mahomes in that regard, I know you moved the interior guard to left tackle, but it's one of those things where you've got to do something to help a relative to run in the rock with Pacheco and Kareem Hunt just to slow it out, and this is early in the game. Instead, you put Mahomes back there to try to make plays, and he's done it before, but this is a different kind of defense. So I'm blaming, you know, the offensive coordinator and Andy Reid for the lack of preparation, if you will, to slop this onslaught.
Speaker 2:You know a couple of defenders we ain't never heard of. Chad knows them, you know. But I just know Jalen Carter and Brandon Graham and, of course, you know Nolan Smith and Jordan Davis and those cats. You know Zach Vaughn, but you got guys. One guy got two and a half sets and I can say I never heard of him. I didn't really watch either, like that.
Speaker 2:Chad knows these guys Williams and the other cat but you know Andy Reid, he has to take ownership for this. You know he's a great coach, hall of Famer, this, that and the other, but this is a big spot. You're going for history. You want to blame Mahomes, but Mahomes didn't have a chance. Sometimes, when he set up, it just wasn't there. It was back-to-back plays where he suffered sacks. You know, it's one of those things where you know you just got to take it from there. I'm not even a Chiefs fan, but you wanted a better game as far as adjustments from that particular team and giving that the experience historic experience, if you will. They still got three rings, but this is a bad loss on a big spot, absolutely Chad thoughts.
Speaker 3:Man, I got something to get off my chest and it has to do with what happened in between the second and third quarter. And this is no disrespect to kendrick lamar. The nfl blew it, the nfl blew it and kendrick did a fine job. But, doc, when I think, you know, growing up I'm born in 88 dog, so that was your prime years, baby when, when you watch football in the early 90s, late 80s, and you think about having bags over your head, you think about the saints and you know, you think about how bad they were. And then you think about having bags over your head. You think about the Saints and you know, you think about how bad they were. And then you think about everything that's happened to the city of New Orleans, such a great city down south in Louisiana. And you got, you know, hurricane Katrina hit and how big that was when Drew Brees was able to lead them to a Super Bowl. And you know, just a few weeks ago, a horrible, awful attack. You know, on Bourbon Street, of all places. And you have a guy who is New Orleans through and through and peaked early in his age and is still in the prime. I mean, lil Wayne is in his 40s, young 40s and he's relevant now. He's been relevant for the last 20 years. Every player that played in that football game yesterday grew up listening to Lil Wayne. They're all the same age as me. They all listen to him. Kendrick is relevant now. Lil Wayne has been relevant for 15 years. He bleeds New Orleans.
Speaker 3:They did it a couple years ago in LA. They had Snoop and Dre and Kendrick and it was amazing theater. La stood up. It was proud to be from the West Coast. You had a chance to have Lil Wayne bring. That New Orleans flavor Last night was good, it was awesome, but it was not New Orleans flavor and when you go to a unique city like that's like going to Kansas City and ordering Chinese food You've got to get the ribs. If you go to New Orleans, you've got to get a beignet and you've got to get some gumbo and you've got to have Lil Wayne on stage. He would have brought out the Hot Boys.
Speaker 3:He would have brought out the hot boys. If he would have brought out Master P, it would have been New Orleans through and through. The same way, when they're in Atlanta, I want to see Jermaine Dupri, I want to see ZZTI. I want to see Atlanta outcast. I want to see the flavor of Atlanta. Show me how Atlanta represents your city to the country. Kendrick Lamar does not represent New Orleans. Lil Wayne represents New Orleans. And all the players and everyone wanted it and the NFL completely boxed it.
Speaker 2:That's right. And Chad, that's a very good point, especially in the turmoil and tragedies in recent years, as you referenced. I agree Lil Wayne should have been there and he's been doing it for 15, almost 20 years compared to Kendrick Lamar. But there's something behind the scenes that I'm not privy to. My wife and daughter is relative to the Drake and Kendrick Lamar thing. You know they didn't even think that he'd be playing that song. You know it's called.
Speaker 3:Not Like Us yeah.
Speaker 2:Not Like Us, but yeah, that's a good point. Chad, the guy's from New Orleans and he's a legendary rapper, legendary artist. I have no problem with your dissertation there at all. Chad, you know, and as you referenced some of the things, that I grew up watching, related to Michael Jackson, prince and all that.
Speaker 2:This was a little bit of a step down from those halftime shows in the past. This was a little step down. You know LA Snoop, that was off the charts with Dr Dre and all that. So, yeah, I have no problem with Chad's dissertation. I totally agree with it. You know Lil Wayne and all that. He represents New Orleans and he wasn't there, so I don't know what's going on there.
Speaker 3:That's one of the most cultural cities in America. Like I said, it's not like the Super Bowl was in Tennessee and you know America. Like I said, it's not like the Super Bowl was in Tennessee and you might get a country artist or the Tennessee, or the Super Bowl was in Indianapolis and then Kendrick can do Indianapolis. There's not really no soul we're talking about LA, atlanta, new Orleans.
Speaker 3:Those are the places that have just so much history and just rich, especially in the African-American community. I can't even speak on it. But New Orleans, I mean, you've seen Jameis down there Like there's so much history there, that's right, and the French and just Lil Wayne grew up in that, he's from that, he's from New Orleans, like you know. Like New Orleans, like, come on, like you got to have Wayne.
Speaker 2:You do, you do Chad that a good point.
Speaker 1:And one thing and we'll get on to some more NFL action is my thing is there's two parts to it. They had everything New Orleans native when you look at the. They brought this person out, that person out before the game National Anthem all New Orleans natives but then halftime show is just completely left. You have somebody that's different. Kendrick wasn't horrible, he just put on a bad performance. In my opinion, his catalog was much bigger than what he portrayed or what he performed, if you will. When you look at, he basically played most of the songs from his new album, which nobody knows. He has enough features to put on a better show, aside from the message. That's one thing. But you can put on a great performance, aside from the message, that's one thing. But you can put on a great performance while still doing the message. Quote unquote blah, blah, blah, blah blah. But yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 1:We definitely missed opportunity by not having Wayne and missed opportunity by Kendrick by not capitalizing fully on the biggest moment, the biggest stage you're going to have in your life, in my opinion. All right, so we're going to go ahead and get into some other NFL action really quick. So we have some new coaches, some rookie coaches that are starting in some new teams. Assuming Kellen Moore goes to the Saints, we have him. We have Ben Johnson, aaron Glenn. So in your opinion, chad, I'll go ahead and start with you first. What rookie coach do you think is going to make the biggest impact this year in the National Football League?
Speaker 3:it's almost like if I wrote a comic book and just made jokes the whole time and then they come to life like I don't know what. It is Ben Johnson I think he's a great play caller. I think we already kind of fell for this a little bit in Chicago and the division is just god-awful. I mean it's. It's such a gauntlet. You got to play the Packers, vikings and Lions. I mean good luck.
Speaker 3:I'm going to take a kind of a detour here and I don't even remember the guy's name, but the guy who went to go coach Jacksonville, just because I feel like Jacksonville is the easiest job to succeed in. Like Houston is good, tennessee's not Indy's a hot mess right now. So why can I not say that this guy can come in? He's an offensive play caller. Trevor Lawrence is healthy. I think there's a lot of untapped potential there. I think you can go to Jacksonville and win. With Brian Thomas Jr as a receiver, 18 in the backfield. I think you can win eight or nine games and sneak into a wild card or maybe win your division at 500 in Jacksonville. Yeah, that's a good point, chad that's a good point.
Speaker 2:Well, uh, you know I like Aaron Glenn up in New York but his situation is bad. They're not even bringing Aaron Rodgers back. But we already knew that the quarterback situation at the Jets is problematic. They've got a solid defense but they draft too low to even think about getting the top two guys, shadua Sanders and Cam Ward. So I agree with Chad in that regard. It's a recipe for disaster. If you ask me, even though the running back, allen and the kid from Iowa state is pretty good, you know you still have to have that QB. And who's going to be QB one? Is it going to be Sam Donald? It's going to be Kirk cousins? Who knows Aaron Glenn? You know he's going to get two years to do that thing because they're impatient in New York and it is a disaster. There's some building blocks there, with the receiver, garrett Wilson, and Quentin Williams on defense and some of the other defenders like Sauce. But you know that's New York. So Aaron Glenn even though I like him and what he brings as far as pedigree and a former player who was drafted in the first round in 94, that's the thing where I agree with Chad relative to the situation in and of itself is not favorable.
Speaker 2:Jacksonville I got to agree there because you know Sunshine got hurt and some things down there. They only got to get another playmaker and the division is soft, even though I like CJ Stroud and all that and the coach there, d'amico Ryans, and that AFC South, you still got the coach and their quarterback who hasn't matured yet. You still got Tennessee and they don't have a quarterback, mayo Boyd. So I would say that Jacksonville, as Chad referenced, is a guy that you could say well, he could sneak in, much like D'Amico Ryans did in his first year at Houston, where you can go in there and get nine games, nine wins, if you will, because of the divisions in and of itself. And they do have a solid defense. You know they got the corner there and they got Walker and they got some other cats on D. Hopefully they can bring something out of them.
Speaker 2:As far as the one in Chicago, ben Johnson, taylor Williams needs protection If they draft tackle to help him out, you might see some there, but the division's brutal, you know Detroit's passed as a former number one seed. Minnesota's going to be there, you know, and Green Bay, which the boys love. So even if you have market improvement. You see eight wins tops because the division's so brutal. So, yeah, good luck on Ben Johnson. Absolutely Okay, all right, yeah, good luck on Ben.
Speaker 1:Johnson, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, doc, we're going to go ahead and stick with you on this go-around. We heard about a team thinking about shopping a guy and then we heard about a guy that's requested for a trade. So, micah Parsons and Myles Garrett, who is more likely to get traded, and what are some potential teams that one of them could possibly go to?
Speaker 2:I think the steelers in atlanta, relative to miles garrett, atlanta has had an edge rush or pass rush problem since john abraham. You can argue that we should have went in that direction last year, during last year's nfl draft, whether it was dallas turner or latu out of ucla. But we drafted our quarterback and it turned out to be the right move. So I think Atlanta's going to. And then for the Steelers, you know TJ Watt's not getting any younger, you know, and they're in a division where quarterbacks are plenty, with the exception of Cleveland You've got to put pressure on Joe Burrow and you've got to put pressure on Lamar Jackson. So if you get, you know, myles Garrett, that's a plus. But do they trade him within the division? That's another thing.
Speaker 2:And then you've got the AFC South, as we referenced. You've got some teams there like Houston, jacksonville, the Colts. They can use him if he stays in the AFC. But Miles Garrett can go anywhere in the league and be a superstar. Micah Parsons is not going anywhere. You know this is one of the cornerstone players on this team and they'll be stupid Now. They made some questionable decisions, but Micah's on record in his own podcast. He's looking to turn this thing around. You know he didn't mention a new coach by name because he misses your boy McCarthy, but I just don't see Micah Parsons leading Dallas. Miles Gary is more privy to be traded, if you will.
Speaker 2:Even the Rams yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1:You said me yeah, you're the only Chad that's on here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I don't think Micah's going anywhere, like Doc said, I mean Dallas. They have shown that they are reluctant to sign anybody, but they're also not going to give anybody away. I mean they just pay back, they take care of their own. They just seem to have a problem bringing someone else in. They got cd there. I think mike is could be disgruntled. I think he's just kind of trying to do that to put a little pressure on jerry. Miles garrett's done, uh, cleveland's a. We all know the contract that they gave their quarterback was atrocious. Jameis Winston came in and he threw picks, but I think he played well enough to win a couple games and I think they got threatened by that and they took him out because they were trying to go the opposite direction and they wanted to lose. Miles Garrett doesn't want to be there. He deserves to be somewhere else. He's one of the greatest defensive linemen in the last 10, 15 years. Came in the league ready to play day one.
Speaker 3:A lot of shades of Von Miller. I got two teams in the NFC. I think Detroit. If they really want to make a run and be serious, their offense is stacked, they're set. You've seen the difference when they lost Hutchinson on the defensive line. If they can put Miles Garrett opposite of Aiden Hutchinson, you've got to play Mahomes twice a year. You've got to play Sean Payton twice a year. I think the Chargers You've got Bosa on one side, you've got Khalil Mack who's getting up there in A's. Derwin James is a superstar at safety. You can play him anywhere. He plays the star position. If Harbaugh can bring in Myles Garrett opposite Bosa to go against Mahomes on a team that already made improvements and he wants to run the ball and play a physical style of football, I think the Chargers and Lions are the two favorites for Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2:That's a very good point. Chad, good job, I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it. Okay, real quick question on this one If you guys are starting a team, not starting a team, if you guys have a team that's already set up, what player and a couple of these guys are up for trade? One may get cut.
Speaker 3:So Debo, deebo, devontae or Cooper Cup, who would you prefer on your team? Chad For my team I got to go Cup just because of the fit. I'm a Broncos fan. I have Cortland Sutton, so I already have the big body receiver. What Bo Nix needs is a check down guy. He needs a little intermediate route runner a la Ladman Conkey with the Chargers. You see how well that helped that. Offense there. You got Cortland Sutton on the outside. I offense there. You got court and set on the outside. I know adams would be great as well, but if you give me cup to be on the slot and get those five, six, seven yard games, well we can kind of get sutton open down the field. Give me cooper cup and that sean payton offense. Not only do I want it, I predict that it's probably going to happen, wow wow, and I didn't even prepare for the audience.
Speaker 1:I didn't even prepare him on that question, didn't even know that he was uh even looking at that. So, yeah, it's pretty cool. All right, doc, who you got. Who would you prefer, debo, devontae or Cooper?
Speaker 2:I'm taking Debo man because he needs a change of scenery. He got the big contract and pretty much disappeared because of Perry's inaccuracies or inconsistencies he was spinning out of the lineup. He's had bad performances. I think Debo, if he goes to a city like Atlanta I'm biased Jacksonville somewhere where he can get the rock it didn't help you rush. You know he's still relatively young, at 29. You know you want to go in that direction. Cooper Cupp for me has some injury histories and I hope he stays healthy. But Devontae Adams, he's up there in age even though he's productive. How much are you looking for? Two or three years? You go with Debo Cooper too. He's still relatively young. But I'm taking Debo brother to answer your question.
Speaker 1:All right, I love it, I'll take anybody. At this point we can't catch a cold. Obviously, we got one receiver out there, so anybody that wants to come, doc, we'll take you out there, tight end.
Speaker 3:We need all the good we can get.
Speaker 1:That's right, baby, all right so this is the part of the show where we have this or that. So it's pretty simple Just pick a team. I'm going to throw out a team. I did not prepare either of them. On these teams, this is going to be the college football edition, so all it is. Guys, you just tell me who the better player is, or, I'm sorry, who the better team is and who you prefer. So it's right off the top of your head. So I know you guys will be quick. Doc, I'll go ahead and start with you. The 2008 Florida Gators or the 2013 Florida State Seminoles.
Speaker 1:Wow, see, this is yeah, I'm coming. I got you on the ropes.
Speaker 2:Doc, yeah, I know you are, I know you are. I believe that 2018 was coached by Spurrier and they scored at will, you know? And they. Yeah, I got to go with the Gators at that, Even though I'm a Georgia fan. I got to go with the 2008 Gators man. The quarterback was damn near a Heisman. If I remember correctly, he might have even won it, you know, at that time Tebow right Was that Tebow and Urban Meyer, that's Tebow, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was Urban Meyer.
Speaker 2:It was, yeah, yeah that's right, it was Urban Meyer, good point. Yeah, tebow, I'm taking Tebow. He's such a dynamic player for the college, you know, and then he willed that team to win with his physical size and he threw just enough. I'm taking 2008,. Brother, sorry, chad.
Speaker 3:All right, Chadwick, Florida State bro.
Speaker 2:Come on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely thought I would have got you on that one. Chad. All right, so that one is. That's the first one we got. So, chad, we're gonna go ahead and start with you. The 2018 clemson tigers versus the 2019 lsu tigers lsu.
Speaker 3:They're too powerful. Um, I did like that clemson team, but at the same time, I mean, you got jamar chase, just as ever since joe burrow. If you ask me who the best quarterback in the NFL is right now, I would argue that it's Joe Burrow, even though he didn't make the playoffs this year. You ask me who the best receiver is in the NFL, I would have to say either Chase or Jefferson. If you're giving me all three of them on a college football field, I think that's easy. I don't care who the other players are on the team as well.
Speaker 1:He was one of the best corners in the NFL.
Speaker 2:All right, I like it. Doc, I agree wholeheartedly with that. I remember that team, like I was just saying, historically good at a collegiate level, man, they blew out everybody, even Alabama. This is Joe Burrow, man, it's one of those things where when you had receivers like that and I think they had a pretty good running back oh, ellis Hilaire, ellis Hilaire, you got to go with that LSU team, man, they can run and throw it. And Burrow was a machine that particular year Blowing out everybody. Man, historical preference, you know.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, I'll go ahead and start this one. Doc, I kind of know where you may lean on this one, but I'm going to throw it at you anyway. We have the 2001 Miami Hurricanes or the 2004.
Speaker 2:USC Trojans yeah, I think that Hurricane team. I think they had Sean Taylor, ed Reed, vince Woolfolk and Jonathan Hillman. But you can't argue with USC at that time, man, bill White, reggie Bush. They had a big receiver, mike Williams. The quarterback was good. Man Leinert, I'm going to take USC. I'm going to take USC on that. Remember it wasn't just the skilled people, they had offensive linemen and defensive linemen that went high in the draft. So I'm taking USC and Pete Carroll during that particular time. You know that was a dynasty, a mini dynasty. You know I'm taking that.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:All right, chad. This is the easiest question in the history of this show. It's Miami Hurricanes. I will take them versus any team you can name. Ken Dorsey was the quarterback. That's the only weak spot. They not only had Frank Gore, they had Willis McGehee and Clinton Portis, they had Andre Johnson. They had wow. The receiver on the other side was I'm trying to think of his name a small slot guy. He also went to the NFL. They had Jeremy Shockey at tight end. Doc referenced it. They had Sean Taylor and Ed Reed at safety. They had Jonathan Vilma. They had Vince Vilfork. They had DJ Williams, another NFL player for the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2:That team.
Speaker 3:They also had another lineman, bryant McKinney. That team was probably the most loaded team I've ever seen. I just named you three running backs who were all Pro Bowlers. I just named you probably the two best safeties to ever play football, if you ask me. Sean Taylor is up for debate because his life was cut short. I think he would have been the greatest football player we've ever watched. Literally the only weakness was quarterback, and it didn't matter because of the talent surrounding them. That team was. I would take that team against any college football team you want to line them up against, including LSU.
Speaker 2:That's a good response there. That's a great point, man. I just think USC at that time. Oh, reggie was a tackle oh yes, Reggie, Linda White and Keith Rivers on defense. He had a big nose tackle. You know, Darrell Russell went to the Raiders I think he was on that team. But yeah, yeah, that's a good response, man. So we differ there.
Speaker 1:Continue, Barley I love it All right. So Texas Longhorns versus the 2015 Alabama Crimson Tide.
Speaker 2:Doc you up first. Oh man, any time you have Vince Young, who actually won the natty against USC and they had skilled people in and of itself, man, they had some linemen. That team was big up front man. You know I got to go with Vince Young and that team. You know that was a special team. Anytime you beat a great USC team who was going for I think it was a two-peat or three-peat for the Maddie and they beat them. Vince Young did that team. He was special in college In the Rose Bowl right In California. Yeah, in the Rose Bowl. Yes, absolutely Last second drive. He was the Patrick Mahomes of college football at that time. That Texas team was lit man. But yeah, I digress, I pick Texas.
Speaker 1:All right, Chad.
Speaker 3:Who was the other team?
Speaker 1:The 2015 Alabama Crimson Tide.
Speaker 3:I'm taking Bama. I like that Texas team. Who's 2015 is? Who is it? No, no, it was. Oh no, we're going way back to.
Speaker 2:No, he's an analyst now.
Speaker 3:Oh, mcelroy, they were lit. Yeah, yeah, mark.
Speaker 2:Ingram. Yeah, they had Big Sean Cody. No, no, what's his name? Something Cody, big boy Cody, middle of the line. Yeah they were McClain at linebacker, went to the.
Speaker 3:Raiders.
Speaker 2:Or not.
Speaker 3:That was too late, that's too late.
Speaker 2:They just missed Julio. Yeah, yeah, but Mount Cody was his name. Yeah, so I get it Chad. That's a good point. Man. Nick Staten was doing his thing. Yeah, but I'm sticking with Texas.
Speaker 1:All right, I've got a couple more for you guys. Chad, you're going to start with this one the 2022 Georgia Bulldogs or the 2020 Alabama Crimson Tide.
Speaker 3:Alabama's a machine. But that Georgia team, I think I'm going Georgia on that one. I think I'm going Georgia on that one. I think I'm going Georgia on that one. Georgia, kirby Smart got the recipe and he cooked up his own little magic out there in Georgia. They were rolling and I think Georgia's the team to beat on that one.
Speaker 2:It goes without question, gentlemen, you had Jalen Carter. You know the 2021 Georgia team had Carter and big you know. Davis, jordan Davis, you know, but this was the second natty. We blew out TCU 65-7 with Jalen Carter. We had a corner Lassiter and that defense N'Kobe Dean no, n'kobe Dean was on the previous one, but yeah, I got to go with Georgia. We're 15-0. And take it from there, brother. That team could beat anybody, you know. And you know they had Kendall Milton Samir White was on the previous to him and James Cook, but Kendall Milton was no joke, the kid out of Clovis, former five-star. Yeah, stetson Bennett's last year 65-7. We beat CJ Schlouder in Ohio State. Ohio State should have beat us, but somehow that Georgia team made it happen. On defense, Mikael Williams was a freshman and so was Maliki Starks on that team. So yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:I'm taking Georgia, All right. And then last one, Chad. We're going to start with you on this one. I'm going to keep it simple 2023 Michigan Wolverines or 2024 Ohio State Buckeyes.
Speaker 2:Ooh.
Speaker 3:Ohio State. The only weakness is the coach, and he proved himself in the playoffs. This Ohio State team is absolutely loaded. It's the first college football team in the history to basically utilize free agency. The NIL was kind of, you know, this year was kind of that year where everyone did that. You got a guy in Quishon Jenkins who could have won the Heisman if he went to any other school or stayed at Ole Miss, but he went to Ohio State to be a 1B to a 1A. In Henderson you have one of the best freshman receivers we've ever seen in Jeremiah Smith, and this is arguably the wide receiver. You, along with LSU, they just continue to pass receiver after receiver after receiver. You've got Embeka whatever his name is. On the other side You've got a good slot, the quarterback Will Howard.
Speaker 3:I did not believe in. He showed up in the playoff game after game. The defense is absolutely unbelievable. I think that Michigan team. The funny part is a lot of these guys played last year and they lost that Michigan team. They haven't beat them in a couple years, so it's crazy to say that, but I just feel like they have the physical you know proudness to kind of stop that run if they went heads up in a neutral site and I just think this team is one of the most talented teams we've seen in college football because of the fact they got the kid out of Alabama playing safety. What is it? Caleb Downs, I believe, is his name. They just use free agency. They put money out there and they brought in a bunch of free agents and they won a natty.
Speaker 2:All right, I'll tell you that's a good answer. I'm sticking with Ohio State too, and not because it's most recent. Remember, they lost their tackle, simmons, and they bring up Nonovan Jackson, and he did a wonderful job and Simmons is going to be a first round of tackle at Ohio State. So is Jackson. But that defense and that defensive line man, you know that he's also supposed to go in the first round, so we'll see.
Speaker 2:And but Jeremiah Smith was the number one recruit in the country, 27th, fourth, 24-7. Sports and rivalscom had him one of the premier players in the history of recruiting and he did, did not disappoint, plus his work ethic. You know they say he's better than Chris Carr and some of the other Ohio State receivers. You know Gail Wilson, and he's just a true freshman. And Will Howard hit him. You know he lost to Oregon in week three in Autzen Stadium. He had a terrible loss against Michigan, but that team under Ryan Day turned it up, man, you know it could have been easy to say quit. We lost to Michigan three times in a row and disappear. But no, they had the toughest road in the playoffs and they dominated everybody, starting with Tennessee, you know. So, yeah, I'm taking Ohio State. Good point, chad, I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it. Okay, all right. So before we get into some NBA, just one last quick question for you guys, doc, I'll go ahead and start with you first Looking at this draft. We will have our first Doc Mock for you guys in about a month, so we will prepare you guys for that. But are there any studs that you just love coming out of this draft that you think are just going to shine, maybe have a great rookie season, or will shine for some years to come down the road?
Speaker 2:Oh, I do, brother, I do, you know, I think. Emeka Obuka, the kid of Ohio State we just referenced, I got him going to the Buccaneers in 19,. And Ashton Gentry, who I got going to the Cowboys, We'll get into Doc Mark later on. It goes without saying that Travis Hunter is a playmaker, the Heisman runner. But when you talk about Emekio Buca at Ohio State and Ashton Genting, they're just scratching the surface of the potential man. I just love that. I love the edge rusher too. Abdul Carter out of Penn State. He's one of those things where he could be a Micah Parsons too. Might even be a little bit faster or better, but depending on what team and scheme it goes to, that's just a few playmakers that I got coming into this draft. It's going to be exciting relative to that.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Chad. You got your aisles anybody?
Speaker 3:yeah, so first off, abu carter, like dr said, is probably going to end up in cleveland. That's the reason. Miles garrett is even going to be traded, so anytime you can replace that and get into production.
Speaker 3:I mean, that dude is an absolute freak. Yeah, I'm not high on the top two quarterbacks from cam warren, schnorr sanders. I don't really like their outlook. As far as the nfl goes, the kid I guess I might be a penn station and shit the. The kid, tyler Warren out of Penn State. The tight end is going to change the league. He's generational talent. You see what Brock Bowers did for the Raiders.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:By the way. Instant impact it's a position where you can impact the game early and often. Tyler Warren is not afraid to be physical. He's not just a pass-catching tight end, he can throw the ball in a gadget situation. In a gadget situation, he can run the ball. He took some handouts at Penn State. I like him, and there's a couple receivers in that draft. Doc referenced it. Aguka is pretty nice. The kid out of Missouri, luther Burden, is supposed to be good. We'll see what he plans out to be. But I also like the kid out of Arizona, mcmillan.
Speaker 3:He's a 6'5" 2'10", you know just kind of looked after and afterthought in Arizona, but I think he could be an impact wide receiver. But I've really got my eyes on the two Penn State kids the pass rusher and the tight end. I think that tight end will be a game changer and I'm hoping Sean Payton is listening to this episode. Well, that's a good point.
Speaker 2:Real quick, marlon, because Chad brought up the kid from Arizona. He's a Mike Evans clone man. It might be even a little bit faster. I watched a little bit of Pac-12, or whatever they call it out here, and that kid, despite insufficient quarterback play, he put up numbers 6'5", 210, and probably runs a 4'4", 5" or something like that. So good point on your part, chad, relative to some of the playmaking ability that this McMillan kid has. Good job Continue.
Speaker 1:Marlon, we definitely might need to get Chad back on for one of these Doc Mock episodes. That'll be some must-listen podcasting for sure, absolutely All right. So the NBA and then we'll get out of here. So obviously Chad, with everybody here. By the way, everybody that listened to our episode last week with Mike, thank you for listening. I got the alerts on the podcast stats. I mean we got listeners all over, so that was our most listened to podcast episode download. So I'm sure this one should break it. So we definitely do. Thank everybody for listening and everything. But we did get our everybody heard our feedback on the Luka trade. So Chad Luka is going to play tonight for the, the Lakers. So what are your thoughts on the trade and what can the Lakers expect from the, from Luca, and also to knowing that that trade for Mark Williams end up getting canceled, if you will? So what are your thoughts on the Lakers and Luca?
Speaker 3:yeah. So let's start in reverse order. The Mark Williams trade was something that they had to make to try to compete this year. I don't think that they're necessarily, and it's crazy to say that as the organization that is the Los Angeles Lakers. When you have a champion, luca, obviously you're going to compete every year. But this was about knowing that your current superstar is 40 years old and he's getting ready to walk away from the sport and you just re-up without even having to wait.
Speaker 3:How many teams get to just replace a superstar in season with another superstar? Usually you got to get lucky and wait, and that's why I couldn't believe the dallas did this. I referenced it before. To me, the dallas mavericks are the green bay packers man. When you can get brett farb and follow up with aaron rogers, that's a gold mine, because you don't just get that in free agency, you have to dig deep in the draft room and find that.
Speaker 3:And when you're the mad race and you can get dirt and then turn around and scout Europe and get Luca to come in and play in a city like Dallas, which is a great city, I absolutely love it. Hopefully I live there the next time we talk, but at the end of the day, no free agency wants to go there. Every free agent wants to go to LA, new York, york or Miami. And you've got a generational talent on your roster and you give him away without even asking somebody else if they would like to pay more for your product. It's absolutely ludicrous. I can't believe it. I think we will see a documentary about this in 20 years about collusion, since the guy used to work with Palenka, the guy that traded him.
Speaker 3:But, if you're the Lakers, you welcome it with open arms. No real Laker fan even likes LeBron, because they're diehard Kobe fans, and Kobe and LeBron is like oil and gasoline Oil and water it don't mix. As soon as LeBron leaves and this is Luka's team the Lakers will be back. You will see 77 jerseys from LA to San Bernardino, to Ontario to San Diego. He is going to be a superstar. Does it help him this year? Does it really matter? He's only 26,. 27 years old this year doesn't mean crap. You got all those titles and you're probably going to win three or four with Luka in the next 10 years. As long as my guy Jokic stays competitive, we'll have a nice little rivalry. And if Luka gets Jokic to come, to LA.
Speaker 2:I'm going to hate the man for the rest of my life. Yes, good point, chad, that's a good point. Relative to the Williams thing, that's an absolute disgrace. The Lakers should have did more homework relative to the medical if to compete this year. But Luka is a guy and he's a generation. You could put him in the top 25 ever in the history of sport. Right now he's all NBA five consecutive years first team and it's one of those things that Chad referenced. Marlon, when LeBron walks away, he might play one more year, but remember it took a year for Kyrie Irving and Luka to mesh, and then next year there's the finals. Laker fans are greedy. They're spoiled. It's not going to happen this year, but it depends on what the Laker and Planker do in the offseason to satisfy the needs as far as Laker Nation goes. But Luka's going to have an impact tonight, man. He's a prolific scorer and I think he'll stay in shape too.
Speaker 3:You know, this is one thing we don't really see, because, if you look back, the Nuggets brought in Iris in the play with Melo, but it's usually, you know, the Bucks brought in Lillard to play with Giannis. It's usually you bringing in the older guy to play with the superstars that you already had in his prime. This is reversed. You're bringing in the guy that the Mavericks should have been bringing in, lebron to play the Luka. Like that's all backwards. We haven't really seen this. I can't really think of a time we've really seen this, because LeBron went to Miami. That was a decision, that was free agency, I can't remember where. Like I said, anytime I want to look at a-flop where, where they ship kobe to orlando to play with with shack, like it's always reversed iris into denver.
Speaker 3:Lillard came to milwaukee like it's yeah, it's, it's baffling and only the lakers can pull this shit off and and like I said, I mean as someone who hates the lakers there comes another 20 years of hate because they're they're going to be relevant and it's just unbelievable. I mean. I mean it wasn't even like Luka requested a trade If he wanted to come to LA. They could have called the Clippers and got Kawhi and James Harden. They could have got two superstars instead of one. The Clippers would have. Ballmer would have gave up the house. He has a brand-new arena he's trying to fill seats in that would have been the Luka dome and to pay whatever the price. So for the Lakers to pull this off. That's what I'm saying, man. I'm telling you, in 25 years, if Netflix is still around or whatever streaming service, it's going to be a documentary, I promise you.
Speaker 2:And real quick Marlon to piggyback on that. It's an absolute disaster for Dallas because they love Luka. And not only that Davis is out a month with an Abdullah strain you know, an abdominal strain, first game, first game.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's out. That's where I was headed.
Speaker 2:I'm glad to get rid of that situation. Physically talented since he came out of University of Kentucky, but you can't depend on him. Much like the kid in New Orleans, zion Williamson. But Davis has skill and he looks in shape, but he just gets these nagging injuries. Now he's out of months. If you're a Mavericks fan, marlon and Chad how do you feel now? If you're a Mavericks fan, marlon and Chad how do you feel now? You know what I'm saying. So the Lakers fans are just laughing to the bank right now. Continue, marlon, sorry.
Speaker 1:Absolutely no, that's where I was going. Next. It's just that first half was amazing seeing him just get the crowd behind him, because the Lakers are the Lakers and you get a lot of stars and all that come out. But sometimes when you go to like a Dallas, an OKC, minnesota, denver, some of these not as huge markets, and everybody's into it, and you feel that crowd presence that's there. And when he was there that first game I was like man, I'm so happy for him, I'm going to be following him every step of the way.
Speaker 1:And then boom, and then that happens and oh, it's not's not minor. After the game and it's like well, you haven't even had an MRI yet, how do you know it's minor. And then here we are the next day. It's like, oh yeah, he's gonna miss several weeks. So it's like it just, it just sucks for him. It's a gut punch. And you you definitely, even though Kyrie and AD are friends um, you thought that that would have been a introduction to something nice and like, okay, same story again with AD. So it definitely does suck that that happens. But I mean they still are a fairly decent team. They have a lot of weapons. Ad definitely makes them better. So he'll be back mid-May or mid-May, mid-march, and I think they'll be okay. But just as a fan of the two, you definitely at least hope Lucas keeps his weight under control, stays healthy, and as the Mavs fan, you just hope to get AD back and hopefully he stays healthy. So yeah, all right, Absolutely Go ahead, doc. You got something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, the Knicks are a disgrace. I'm from the east, southeast, but you know they thought Kat and this other, kat Brunson Brunson's doing his thing, but you can't get smoked at home. And back-to-back weekends the Lakers blew them out last Saturday and then this past Saturday. It's one of those things where the Celtics they were up by 40-something and they lost. They beat them by 30-something.
Speaker 2:This is the Knicks, man, this is probably one of those things you would have thought that would make a run in the Eastern Conference. But something's missing there. Do they miss Devin Shinzo? I'm pronouncing his name wrong, but is you know the coach? The right guy runs his guys into the ground, madison Square Garden, the Mecca. And back-to-back weekends. You know, one weekend, okay, the Lakers were red hot, the bond, but then you go and you play the Boston Celtics all the time and you're at the crib. It was an embarrassment. I got a buddy of mine that's a Knicks fan and he couldn't answer the phone for two days. Man, this is the New York Knicks and the league is better when the Knicks are relevant. I love Cat as a talent, but Cat did nothing in that game against Porzingis and those Cats. It's one of those things where it's up in the air. I'm sticking with LKC. Go ahead, chad.
Speaker 3:The one thing I will say is this ain't the 80s and 90s. I don't think these games matter much anymore. It's sad to say the Lester is kind of off the end of the day a little bit. It ain't the same Madison Square Garden. It ain't the same rivalry between these teams. They just know they're going to get to the playoffs and when they get there then they kind of show. And it's just the AAU mentality. These dudes have been playing showcases their whole life growing up. They didn't go through in high school and the holiday tournaments and things of that nature.
Speaker 3:They just went to showcase the showcase and I think they kind of know let's just get to the playoffs. I mean, you look at my team, the Denver Nuggets. We're still trying to figure things out. Jamal Murray's trying to figure his way. Michael Porter's been on the hot street lately, scoring 35 points in three or four consecutive games and I think that played a way to reunite Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant. You know, trade Michael Porter Jr to Phoenix and bring Kevin Durant to play with Jokic and Aaron Gordon and Russell Westbrook and see if we can go for it. But you know we kind of stayed pat. But I just think in today's age it's really just about make the playoffs, especially with the play-in.
Speaker 3:I think that I think the NBA shot themselves in the foot with the play-in game. I think they were looking for extra ratings and extra revenue and I think it backfired because that just gives you more, you know, reason to rest because all you got to do is make it. I don't think a one seed, two seed, I don't think it matters in today's game. So I think a lot of these, like you said, you know diehard Knicks fan as a friend in the 80s and 90s, you know going against Jordan and all these people. He was probably sick when Jordan went to Madison Square Garden and dropped 50 on him.
Speaker 3:But now I wouldn't mind if the Celtics came in and beat me up, because I know all that matters is when we play them in a seven-game series, who's going to win that series this regular season? It's just the NBA. Ain't the same man and it kind of sucks a little bit. Hopefully these trades, hopefully Luka maybe he'll give us a little more spice. But right now I'll be honest with you I'm watching Indiana State versus Chicago State college basketball, doug. Before I'm watching some of these NBA games, I'm just embedded in college hoops right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too. And that's a very good point, marlon. Relative to that, the league has changed. They're tired of these guys taking games off like they didn't. Can you imagine Anthony Mason or Charles Oakland with the Knicks say, I'm sitting this one out, you know? Or something like that? So the Knicks, you know, and you make a good point, man, but eventually it's going to bite you in the ass, you know, because you know it's one of those things where the Knicks were hot and all that and they fizzled out.
Speaker 2:But to me you got to put out there in the regular season. I'm old school man and he's just one of those things. He just picks his spot and when he plays he puts up numbers, but he plays once a week, two times a week. The 76ers are 10 games under .500, and Maxie's playing his ass off. Where I agree with Chad, it's a different type of NBA and it draws the fan away Because Chad played the game, I played the game, played the game and marley played a little bit. The nba fan is pissed off at these cash. You know, up until recently I ain't seen quite a little in three years, you know. So it's one of those things where chad chad reference. It's a different nba and the postseason. You just can't turn it on like that you know so, but it goes noted.
Speaker 2:Good point on that absolutely.
Speaker 1:And uh, chad, before we uh, go ahead and get on out of here. You did mention, um, uh, college basketball and everything. Selection Sunday is not for another month and about a week or so we most likely won't speak. Uh, have you on the show again before then. So, if you can, and I'm asking you to look into you know a little bit of the future to Selection Sunday and down to the final four. If you could have four teams right now you would want to see make the Final Four as of right now, today. Who would you pick?
Speaker 3:So you start with Duke, my arch rival. I'm a Tar Heels fan but there's no denying the talent that Cooper Flagg has. They got the Canapo kid who can shoot the lights out of the ball. They got a couple more shooters. They got a big man. I think he might be from Sudan, but big man, big, dominant, big man gets every rebound. Every missed shot gives an opportunity for offensive rebound. Duke's going to be a Final Four team. I believe that Cooper's flag is unstoppable. Auburn I love the way Bruce Perl coaches. He hasn't seemed to get over that hump. A lot of controversy with him in the years past. But that Auburn team I mean they play great basketball. The Jamari Broom kid is a big man who kind of has a Chris Webber-style game. That him can pass the ball out of the post, get everyone else involved.
Speaker 3:I like Auburn. Florida is a tempting team because of the way they can score the basketball. I don't know if I believe in them. Gonzaga's not the same team they could be. I like the way Houston plays. You know, samson has a pretty good, you know, way of coaching them and having defense over there. So I got so far two teams. I would say overall. Who else am I looking at? I am thinking I don't like Bama, I don't like Tennessee. You've got to have a sleeper in there, say Johnson. Rick Pitino might be a sleeper team that can get to the Final Four. I think UConn's done. Wisconsin's a good team.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go Duke. I'm going to go Auburn. I'm going to go Houston. I'm going to stick with Florida because I think Florida has too much offense. I want to score. They got a couple kids Real Richard Clayton. They got a couple kids. The kid out of Florida Atlantic that was a superstar a couple years ago in that final four run for them. He's on Florida now. I think they have too many points. So I'm going to go Houston, florida, auburn and Duke.
Speaker 1:I like it. Good point, I like it. I like it. Well, yes, we will definitely get you back on during the draft time pre-draft and we'll go ahead and break down some players and potential suitors and all that for teams and everything. But Doc, you got anything else before we get out of here?
Speaker 2:Well, it's been a pleasure having Chad man, a very knowledgeable man, and just hearing his voice. And look at some of the teams that you're refereeing, especially in college basketball. I know he knows the draft, much like me, and you know he's looking forward to that particular episode. So do your homework, chad. God bless you, brother.
Speaker 3:Thanks for joining us. I got to do my homework. Man To get in the lab with the great Dr Falcon. I got to do my homework for sure I'm going to be in that lab, man, because I got a couple surprises for you. I got a quarterback to watch out for. You might like it or you might kill me for it, but we'll see. I appreciate it, guys.
Speaker 1:Hey, hold on one second Chad. Last thing, chad. Hey Doc, if you can get any receiver to join the Falcons from the Lions, who would it be? What's his full name?
Speaker 2:Amar St Brown, that's his name. He like I butcher his name every time. Oh, my god him. I just said he's one of one.
Speaker 1:I'll put him Detroit, yeah good job, bobby, you got it alright guys. We'll catch you guys next time.
Speaker 3:Peace peace, you, a bad bitch put your hands up.
Speaker 2:High hands up, high hands up Peace.