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An explosive episode awaits as we tackle the latest NFL developments, which includes the unexpected release of Chargers linebacker Joey Bosa. This pivotal moment has sparked wide-ranging discussions about Bosa’s future, what it means for the Chargers' roster, and the broader implications for free agency across the league. Our hosts unpack the potential landing spots for Bosa and speculate whether his next chapter will take him to a rival team or back home to connect with his brother.
The narrative transitions to the veteran quarterback Aaron Rodgers and the swirling rumors of his next destination. With intriguing insights into the roles various franchises may play in shaping Rodgers' future, our analysis challenges listeners to consider how the league's landscape may shift dramatically.
But it doesn't stop there! We dive deep into the 49ers' strategic needs for the upcoming draft and free agency. There’s an examination of how organizations can rebuild through focused investments in their rosters, drawing parallels to the evolving playoff landscape in the NBA. The return of the Lakers and discussions on their playoff viability against the rising Warriors create a kinetic energy that resonates through our conversation.
As tensions heighten heading into March Madness, basketball fans will not want to miss our predictions and underdog selections for the tournament. Will any teams upset expectations, or are the favorites destined to rule the court once more?
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And welcome everybody. Welcome, welcome to another episode of Real Talk. Doc, you doing all right today.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir, I sure am. Let's do it, baby. I'm ready. And it's a pleasure to have our buddy Mark B Calley, very knowledgeable, a veteran of the Shine On Sports Mad Dog Sports Show, and you know, it's just an honor to have a man and bring some Northern California into the mix.
Speaker 3:I appreciate the invite. Man, let's get this thing rolling. Let's do it, let's do it, let's do it Okay.
Speaker 1:so we have some major breaking news. As we're recording this, it is 7 o'clock on the West Coast and Joey Bosa of the Chargers has just been released. We kind of saw this coming. I didn't know if it would come last year or this year, but now it's here. So, mark, I'll go ahead and kick it with you. What do you think Joey Bosa may land on this upcoming season?
Speaker 3:He's coming up north Come play with his brother. I think it's been a motion that has been in works for a minute and they just haven't been able to get it done, whether it's a salary cap position of need um, and just the situation. But it seems like this is the perfect situation, the perfect time, um, for him to come up here and play with his brother yeah, yeah doc.
Speaker 2:Well, I tell you, man, he hasn't stayed healthy the past few years in the Charger uniform and it's one of those things where he somewhat underperformed the last four or five years after being a high draft pick. You know it's going to be interesting to see what direction you go into the NFL draft, whether it's offense or defense, marlon. But it has to be somewhat of a relief knowing this might be a money issue and I think Harbaugh's not messing around. Neither is the organization man. You know I can't remember the last time you made a pro bowl on all protein and you paying them as such. So yeah, in the back of your mind, you have to say good riddance.
Speaker 1:But then, by the same token, you know you have to replace that side of the line, you know it's a business feeling pretty good and just knowing with Bosa and with with what he uh how he hits us in the salary cap, if you will. And and the the spot, the roster spot, I mean, hey, we can, we can definitely get somebody else. Save a little money. Uh, get some extra guys. So, um, definitely going to miss them, but hey, it is what it is at this point, but all right.
Speaker 1:Anyways, onto some other news. So, uh, give everybody a quick show rundown. We will get into some free agency. 49ers talk will be next after that. Mark will give his top all-time fantasy team, if you will. If he's creating a whole team, he's going to give us his team. The first. Doc Mock will be on this episode today, so we're looking forward to that. Then we're getting some NBA college basketball and finishing out with some MLB, so all right. So we did hear the news about Rodgers possibly wanting to go to the Rams. Stafford did get his extension with the Rams, so that cancels out. So I feel like at this point, the only place that he can really go would either be the Raiders or the Giants. So, doc, I'll go ahead and start with you. Where does Rodgers end up?
Speaker 2:I think Rodgers will end up with the Giants man. It's crazy it sounds. You see these happening all the time with these veterans that are Hall of Fame bound that they have these couple of bad years. In Rodgers' case, he was injured two years ago, but you know, the ego is still there years. In Roger's case, he was injured two years ago, but the Eagles are still there.
Speaker 2:The Giants need a name. This is the New York Giants. If he has any inkling of football left, what better way to put it in with Malik neighbors and maybe they draft Travis Hunter? I don't know, but staying in the metro area in New York, he's used to it. But this is a different animal now. This is a Giants fan, so we'll see what it is. Personally, I think he's done. He's finished the footwork. You know the bad throwing motions and just relying on arm talent, not looking off his receivers things that he thought he can get away with, given he's been in the league for so long. But you know that's neither here nor there. He's not going to the Raiders, so I say he's going to the Giants.
Speaker 3:Yeah, mark, he's got one option, and one option only if he wants to play in the Giants. If I'm the Giants, I have to really really dissect this thing hard in the next I would say 48 hours. They have to figure out a plan of what they're going to do. Their coach and GM are on the hot seat, have been on the hot seat for the past two years. They screwed around and gave Daniel Jones way too much money. Let Saquon go. He wins the Super Bowl and just got an extension.
Speaker 3:They've got no playmakers on that team other than neighbors on offense. Their defense is nowhere near being good enough. I don't see the reason to go get a 40-year-old quarterback coming off an ACL in a terrible season to make fans happy. They need jobs of talent and they need it to be young and controllable for the next four years. So if I'm the Giants, I say no and just build that thing up from the bottom. If I'm Rodgers, I already know the Giants is it, but he needs to come into a guy moment too and he needs to realize that he's not who he used to be and he needs to sit down. It's time. I mean, he's one of the greatest of all time, you should be comfortable enough going out, knowing that yeah, yeah, and we'll see how that all plays out.
Speaker 1:But you know, I think rogers knows he was definitely reaching out to all of his options that he has and he was wanting a reunion with davante adams. That most likely won't happen. He was cut from the jets and when we look at this receiving core, I mean this is t h T Higgins. He did get franchised but obviously you can try to orchestrate a sign and trade or something like that with them if the Bengals are wanting to do something like that. But when you look at guys like Devontae Adam, tyler Lockett, who was just released, chris Godwin, stefan Diggs, christian Kirk, amari Cooper, d-hop, keenan Allen, just to name a few I mean there's a lot of guys that are out there.
Speaker 1:Dk Metcalf wants to trade. So there's a lot of guys that are out there that you can get for your team and as a Chargers fan, I'm lighting up because I'm like, okay, cool, who can? We obviously need to get at least two solid receivers and still maybe get one in the draft. So if we can somehow maybe get like a dk metcalf or, you know, a davante, you know, I would love that, you know selfishly. Or even maybe bring keenan back. But, mark, looking at your team, you obviously got rid of debo and iuk is on the trade block now. So how are you feeling, first and foremost, about the trade, and are you looking at possibly getting any of these guys in free agency?
Speaker 3:um well, the debo thing needed to happen. I think that happened a year too late. He's been in the league for six years. He doesn't really possess a wide receiver skill set, but he's dangerous with the ball in his hand. He took a lot of punishment as a running back and it was just time. The cap number, all that stuff. Production-wise, the funny part is when he was a Niner everybody said he was slightly overrated as a receiver. And now that he's traded, everybody looks at his numbers last year and says, well, they weren't that bad. Just from an organizational fit, he was one of the leaders, so you're going to miss that. But production wise, I think our receiving core right now, if we keep IU with the way Pierce Hall played at the end of the season and the way Jawan Jennings played from the Super Bowl on through last year, I'd say we're pretty decent at wide receiver.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't go with any of the people that you named at all. Wow At all. The one guy I do want selfishly is Cooper Cupp. If you look at every single wide receiver Devontae Adams is old. Keenan Allen is old. Christian Kirk is injured a lot and he's a wide receiver. Stephon Diggs, a diva coming off of a major knee injury. Cooper Cupp, in my opinion, is the most polished receiver available right now. He can run routes, he will block and he's just really good at what he does. He knows how to get open. He knows defense as well. If he's available, I would go with Cooper Cupp. You put Cooper Cupp with Brandon Ayuk and Jennings and Pearsall. You've got guys that are big and physical, that can catch the football. You don't need to throw them open. They will possess the ball, get open and always find a way and always be where they're supposed to be. I would honestly go with Cooper C Cup over all the guys you mentioned.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Doc, what do you think about that Debo trade?
Speaker 2:Well you know on the outside looking in. I agree with Marky Cowley man, it was time for him to go. If you want out, get out. You know you don't want to be a catch in a locker room, but it's one of those things where he's a name you remember his great year three years ago and it's one of those things where the production that running back and receiver all in one package might not have to be replaced, but it might be a thing you know, given that Purdy did rely on him in certain situations.
Speaker 2:Of course Ayuk has to stay healthy and I agree with Mark when that, cooper Cup is one of those selfless bleeders that can come in to do the thing. And Pearsall is a young talent, a star waiting to happen, going into his second year. So, yeah, I just think that this is a good move for both parties. It remains to be seen if he has the same production with Washington. Are they going to ask him to do the same things, being a running back and a receiver, as they did in San Francisco? But what I want to ask Mark real quick, marlon, is the Purdy contract. Does that concern him, given his injury history? And you know what are you expecting from Purdy this year. If he does get the big money $50 million a year Does he deserve it? We'll call Mark real quick.
Speaker 3:The whole thing about the Purdy contract situation is people need to look at it and this point of view it's going to be a three-year contract. No matter what you do this year, he's still on his last year, so you're really signing in for three years after this year. It's going to be a three-year contract and it's going to be the most that he can get. I don't see him signing a second deal worth more than what he gets now, unless he wins the Super Bowl every single year in those three years. Brock Purdy is a good quarterback. He's not great, he doesn't do anything better than anyone else in the league, but he can get you to a Super Bowl and if you have enough people around him, he can definitely win you a Super Bowl. So if you have enough people around him, he can definitely win you a Super Bowl. If you look at it for a three-year window, it's not that bad of a contract. If you're thinking that he's going to get a seven-year, eight-year contract and if they do go that route, they're going to wish they hadn't done that.
Speaker 3:I like Brock, I do. But do I think that there's better talent out there? I definitely do, because if you would have told me a year ago or two years ago that you could have Aaron Rodgers. I would have definitely signed up for that and paid him the amount that he got paid. Now I would not shed a tear whatsoever because I know that there's talent out there that they can go get, whether it's the Kirk Cousins you know what I'm saying or you can go in the draft. I think Shador Sanders honestly would be a great fit for the 49ers.
Speaker 3:You don't want your quarterback having to run around the field, but you do want someone that can throw 15 to 20 yards out on the line, and I'm not sure Brock Purdy can do that right now, even in year four. But I think Brock is smart enough to know that he's not the best quarterback in the league and nor is he going to sign a contract that's going to handicap the team, because he knows he needs people around him.
Speaker 2:Good response, good team. Marlon, sorry brother, no, you're fine. You're fine, doc. Good response, good team.
Speaker 1:Marlon. Sorry, brother, no, you're fine. You're fine, doc. So, looking at the window, would you say that? A two-part question. Would you say that the window is closed because, obviously, with what happened with Debo and knowing that you got to pay Purdy and you know things in the health of some of your star players, you know, looking at Trent Nick, you know CMC, when you look at some of what you've had over the past couple years where you're stacked and Super Bowl run, all that, do you think the window is closed? And also, too, going forward to a year like this year, do you think you're able to compete with the Phillies, the Rams and in Washington and teams like that?
Speaker 3:Definitely don't think the window is closed, because the NFL has a salary cap. Anyone that wants to win can win and anyone that doesn't want to win doesn't have to. And they can find ways to do that. You can manipulate numbers. You can do all types of stuff. Look at the Eagles. They're re-signing people all over the place and they already got a ton of dudes making big money. Do I think we're on their level? No, but at the same time, it's football, it's any given Sunday. It's not a series, it's one game at someone's house that you've got to play. And I think the 49ers' window is definitely not closed because they do have a young quarterback, they do have a willingness to go out there and spend money. They do have a running back that's coming back. That is all world as far as running backs go. And I think they did something that is very underrated this year and so far in the off season they totally revamped their, their coaching staff. They saw what Philly did and I think they're kind of modeling that. Instead of going after players, they brought in solid. They brought in Salah. They brought in Gus Bradley. Thank God we got Brandon Staley out of here, because he's just that luck, no matter where he goes. That dude's bad luck, man. He didn't even coach this year and look what happened. But look at the Eagles, man. They went to the Super Bowl, lost a close one. Whatever you want to call it bad call, good call, whatever right they come back the next year, they totally fall off the map. The second half of the season they're a shell of themselves. This year they make one move and they totally dominated one of the best teams assembled in the nfl on one sunday, and now they're back and they're projected to go back to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3:So with the NFL, with the salary cap, bro, you just got to hit on the draft and, I think, piggybacking off the question. This year, the Niners have three positions that they need to address in the draft with their first three picks Offensive line, defensive line and defensive secondary. They cannot continue to waste picks, their first picks, on reaching for defensive linemen with tangibles that aren't good enough to get off the blocks. They can't keep wasting their first-round picks on offensive guys that haven't played enough and are struggling coming out the blocks. They have to go straight trenches and go. They need to get a right tackle, they need to get a defensive tackle and they need to get another DB. And if they want to address some of that in free agency before the draft, then cool. But I still think even with those those needs and getting those in free agency, they still have to hit on this draft.
Speaker 3:The NFL. You're only as good as what your draft shows that you can do. You get these young guys in here. You got team control for four to five years. You can play with the salary cap. You can pay people, extend people, hide money, pay people up front and then get rid of them when it's time to get rid of them, and then you don't lose the beat. You can still go out here and replenish the talent. And that's what they did a good job doing. That's why they have the team that they have. Because they did draft perty in the seventh round. Um, they were able to move off of trey lance. They did trade and get christian mccaffrey. They uh, drafted aaron banks. They they drafted bosa. They drafted Mustafa last year. You know they drafted Ronaldo Green last year. They drafted Greenlaw Warner Kittle. They traded for Trent Williams. You know what I'm saying. Like, if you build your team the right way in the draft and free agency, you can go sign lesser-known guys for very friendly contracts and not skip a beat.
Speaker 1:Right right. Doc, what do you think about the 49ers this year?
Speaker 2:Say again Molly, we're breaking up One more time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what do you think about the 49ers this year?
Speaker 2:I think they can. Actually, I think they can win the division, man. You know, I really do, given that people can stay healthy, and I think that they. I got them drafted. I know we're going to do a lot more. I got them drafted in Simmons, the big tackle out of Ohio State. There's your boy. Trent Williams is getting old. He's not getting any younger and you can slide Simmons in the guard because he did it at Ohio State when the other cat went down. So there you go. I think they can win the division. Man. I'm not even tripping the NFC West, you know. I know Stafford came back, but to answer your question, if they lose Cooper Cup, they lose a step for the Rams. And then who says the Rams are going to repeat or whatever? I got the 49ers winning the NFC West.
Speaker 3:Okay, going to repeat, or, or whatever. I got the 49ers, uh, winning the nfc west. Okay, all right. That's right, brother, that's right, all right.
Speaker 1:So now, before we get to the doc mock uh, mark, give us your. If you're creating a fantasy team of a complete offense, we're not doing offensive line, but just complete offense and running back. Uh sorry, a quarterback, two running backs, three receivers, a tight end. We'll start with the offense first. What would it be out of all 49ers, 49er players in history? What do you got?
Speaker 3:Well, quarterback is probably the easiest route. You got to go. Joe Montana Guy set the standard. Steve Young is very underrated, one of my favorite players because I'm left-handed and he's left-handed, but Joe Montana set the standard for quarterbacks, being undefeated in Super Bowls and just being that guy that everybody wanted to be like, nothing fazed him.
Speaker 3:Running back, roger Craig, of course, first 1,000-yard receiving and rushing running back in NFL history. And then I'm going to go Ricky Waters even though he was only here for a year, ricky Waters continued that trend that a lot of teams weren't doing, which is throwing the ball to the running back out of the backfield and lining them up at wide receiver. Ricky Waters was one of the most dynamic players in his time. A lot of people forgot about him. Wide receiver got to go with Jerry Rice. He's the GOAT. I'm actually going to go John Taylor, his running mate, because John Taylor was filthy, selfless blocker, punt returner, kick returner, didn't have the numbers that a lot of people would think he'd have, but he was just as good as Jerry Rice. And then I got to go TO just an absolute beast. And then tight end, before Kittle came. I would have went with Brent Jones, but it's Kittle, kittle all the way. One of the best tight ends to ever lace him up in the NFL.
Speaker 1:Okay, All right, Doc. What do you think about that offense?
Speaker 2:I love it, except that it should be in the. Hall of Fame Hold on.
Speaker 1:Who did you say you broke up? Say that, start over for us.
Speaker 2:I agree with everything what Mark said, except tight end. I'll get that in a day. But Roger Craig should be in the Hall of Fame man. I mean Roger Craig and Ricky Waters, to be honest with you. I mean Ricky Waters was dominant man in the 80s and it's one of those things where they're doing a disservice to Ricky Waters and Roger Craig.
Speaker 2:Roger Craig was the first Before Marshall Falk. It was Roger Craig and he played in a man's league where, you know, you could really literally blast. Who can forget the fumble caused by Lawrence Kaplan in the championship game? And Roger Craig came back the next year and had a great year. This guy, you could pitch him in for 1,200 yards rushing and 80 to 90 yards I mean receptions a year, marlon, and it's one of those things where he should be in. Ricky Waters speaks for himself. Now, as far as tight end, you know, I think Dwight Clark for my money was the money man, especially when it started at Dynasty man who could forget the catch. You know, I know Kittle's an all-pro and he's more recent, but Dwight Clark for my money Mark, was the man at that time in the entire league. God bless his soul. He's passed on. But I'm going with Dwight Clark with that one.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, all right. So now, Mark, we're going to go over to defense. So we got four cornerbacks, slash safeties, four linebackers and three D linemen. Who do you got?
Speaker 3:D line. I got to go Bryant Young. Notre Dame just came in as a rookie, dominated, won the Super Bowl, oh sheesh. Fred Dean on the D line and Charles Haley, even though he was kind of that linebacker, stand-up linebacker, but he was the edge rusher in today's game. So I'm going with those three. And then linebacker, of course, I've got to go with the two tandems, Bowman and Willis, and I'm going to go with the current tandem of Greenlaw and Fred Warner DBs, even though he was here a year.
Speaker 3:Deion Sanders I mean people that weren't here when Deion came here, like it wasn't fake man, like it was a real deal, like he made so many people that did not care about football or the 49ers watch football because they were waiting for him to return one for a touchdown. They were waiting for the dance when it wasn't popular. He was flashy, he was class, he, he was everything, he was style, the. Everybody wanted to be Dion growing up. So I got to go Dion. Um, unpopular pick that a lot of people probably don't know. My other corner is going to be Don Griffin. I grew up watching the 49ers and Don Griffin was one of the better corners back when corners weren't really known to be great.
Speaker 3:And then in my secondary, with them I'm going, of course, the great Ronnie Lott, one of the best safeties to ever play, and I'm going, of course, the great Ronnie Lott one of the best safeties to ever play. And I'm going to go. Tim McDonald. Tim McDonald came over here in the year where the 49ers really went all in after losing to the Cowboys they brought in.
Speaker 2:Tim.
Speaker 3:McDonald from the Cardinals, tim Norton from the Cowboys, deion of course from Doc Falcons. Thank you, doc. And they brought in Gary Plummer from your Chargers Marlon, so thank you for that too. I was probably other than the 85 Bears and the Ravens I think the 49ers are in that conversation and 94-95 is one of the best defenses that were ever assembled.
Speaker 2:Okay, Doc.
Speaker 3:What do you think, oh?
Speaker 2:absolutely, absolutely. I'm going to start with the secondary man. Ronnie Lott in my mind is the best safety ever. You know you could put Ed Reed up there, but Ronnie Lott was the OG. And then, of course, in that 81 team you had Eric Wright at one corner and I'm going to go Deion Sanders on the other, and you know you made a good point, mark, with the other corner, tim.
Speaker 3:McDonald Don Griffin and.
Speaker 2:Tim.
Speaker 3:McDonald, don Griffin and Tim McDonald.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but a lot. And then Eric Wright. At that time People forget how good Eric Wright really was. You know, I'm a lot older and I remember how dominant that team was defensively. Of course, linemen you talked about Charles Haley, some of the other cats, you know, and I agree with that there. You know Fred Dean, and Dean was underrated. He came from the Chargers, I believe, and went to York and won Super Bowls, you know. But Dwayne Board number 76, is an interior guy that you have to remember. In the early 80s he was good.
Speaker 3:I've never heard that name in my life. Yeah, Twain and Boyd.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, look him up, he was something else. Your linebackers I love, man, but you've got to put Hacksaw Reynolds in there somewhere. That was John Madden's guy. You know, maybe I take out Greenlaw and Keith, fred, warner and Willis and the other camp, but Hacksaw made a couple of all-pro teams, man, he wasn't just a name, he produced. And so, yeah, I agree with your defense and you know, the 85 Bears might be the standard bear in Marlins, but the 49ers defense, even though they're known for offense because of Rice and Montana and Craig, that defense at the time man and through the years is otherworldly. You know there's a reason why they won championships during that period and that's the underrated part of the team was defense. Fred Dean was a monster man. Come on, you know that's all I got on that yeah.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it. All right, so here is the time of the show.
Speaker 2:Since we've been doing this podcast, we have not been Marlon real quick before we get into that and I'm excited about doing that Real quick Marlon and Mark. The Bears made a trade to get an all-pro guard to help out the young quarterback, caleb Williams, and I just want your take on that because I know my boy, champ from New Mexico, will be listening. We gotta mention why Kansas City traded a 32-year-old all-pro guard. They had to move him to tackle but this cat was all-pro man and I'm happy for the Bears fan. It might be a money issue, if you ask me.
Speaker 2:The Chiefs had tremendous holes in the Super Bowl that you saw on the offensive line and they got rid of the all-pro in the Super Bowl that you saw on the offensive line and they got rid of the all-pro. You know you got to pay the guy. He even made the Pro Bowl this year. He might have even made all-pro this past year and they moved him to tackle. So your take on the Bears protecting Caleb Williams with a guy from another team. I think his ceiling is still high, you know real quick, the champ Mark.
Speaker 3:The Chiefs are like the Patriots If they're offering you somebody in the trade, you might want to just pass on that. I mean, look at the Tyreek Hill situation right. How many people thought the Chiefs were going to be the Chiefs after Tyreek Hill left? And now we look back at it, it was probably Kelsey that was a better fit for that offense than Tyreek was. Did Tyreek space the field? Of course he did, but they went on to win Super Bowls without Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3:I think the offensive line I think is the position now where, if you're spending a ton of money, you're actually getting worse Because you can find these guys in the third, second round. I mean, we just drafted a right guard, dominic Hooney, out of Kansas. He wasn't a first-round pick, I don't even think he was a second-round pick, but he played every game, probably, maybe missed maybe a snap and was one of the better offensive linemen we had. I think in the drafts right now you cannot really overpay guys in the trenches. I think that's where you build your team the cheap way.
Speaker 3:I think when you start spending money on guys that need the money in the trenches, I think that's where your team goes south, because you need time and you need pressure, but you also need to be able to have people that, when they have the ball, can get to the house and put points on the board. I'm going to wait and see. It's not a head-scratcher for me. I think Kansas City is one of the smarter franchises in the league. They make trades, they do what they got to do, they get people you've never heard of and they fall out when they get there. So I'm going to trust Andy Reid and the fact that he can replace Tooney with somebody else.
Speaker 2:I'm going to beg to differ with real quick, before we get into Doc Marks. Taylor Williams took a beating, gentlemen 68 sacks. You don't want to ruin him. He got into some bad habits. I think Joe Tooney is one of those guys. You can fill in for three years and protect the blind side of the interior line and maybe you draft a tackle at 10. We'll get into it in a few minutes, but you know Caleb Williams needed something and Ryan Poe is taking a beating. He acquired another lineman quietly I think it was Jackson from the Rams. So he's doing things quietly to keep Taylor Williams in peace. You know, in one piece Now Ben Johnson's head coach. I'm sure he's going to work with Kelly Williams, a fundamental that went south because he did take a beating. So, mark, respectfully, I disagree with you there. I think it's a home run for the Bears getting a guy like you could be a leader in the locker room day one, yeah but I'm not going to disagree with you.
Speaker 3:On paper it looks like the Bears did the right thing, but how many times have we seen these type of trades? And they amount to the same results for that franchise. So until the Bears, until Caleb Williams shows me something, because last year right, they went into. Last year, roma Doomsday, they got all these weapons Keenan Allen, cole, komet.
Speaker 2:DeAndre Smith a running back.
Speaker 3:DeAndre Smith DJ.
Speaker 3:Moore, DJ Moore yeah, they went heavy in the draft with Lyman, right, and it's not the Lyman all the time, it's the scheme and it's the quarterback not understanding the game. Until Caleb Williams figures out things, you can put an all-pro line back there. If he's holding the ball for six seconds more he's going to get sacked, ain't? No way I'm going to hold up for six seconds no way. And there's plenty of times that I saw him last year have plenty of time to make a good throw. He did not make a good throw. So I'm going to trust Ben year have plenty of time to make a good throw. He did not make a good throw.
Speaker 3:So I'm I'm gonna trust ben johnson scheme more than I'm gonna trust anybody they bring in there. I think he's gonna do things differently, um, but I don't know if paying a dude that's 32 years old to be on the line is gonna make you a contender or even make you that much more better. It's still gonna have to come from the quarterback and it's to have to come from everybody else around him to make that team better. Those two linemen, I get it, you need linemen, but at the same time it's like Tooney had Patrick Mahomes. Did you see Patrick Mahomes sitting around there all day waiting for people to get open. No, he knows his reads, he gets rid of the ball and when nothing's there.
Speaker 3:He's taking off. So is some of that? Just, oh, okay, he's a really good lineman. Or is some of that? Because his quarterback honestly understands the game? And I'm going to go with the quarterback understands the game and we're just going to have to wait and see. I just don't really understand why these teams pay so much money for these offensive linemen when you can go get an offensive lineman that you've never heard do the same thing. So I'm going to wait and see. But his name itself speaks volumes. But, honestly, a team that just lost the Super Bowl and your most important player is the quarterback he's one of the greatest. If you're willing to let him go, then I'm not going to sit here and really question them, because they've won multiple Super Bowls. They know what they're doing.
Speaker 2:That's fair. That's a good rebuttal there. Good job on that. All right, marlon, it's on you, baby, let's do it.
Speaker 1:All right, so it's time, the first Doc Mock of 2025. The draft is 50 days away, officially today, so we have our first Doc Mock for you. So, doc, without further ado, the floor is yours.
Speaker 2:Do you want to do the first 10?
Speaker 1:Yeah let's just do the first 10. And then from there, as we go, week by week, we'll give them more and more. Let's do the first 10, and then you can maybe give a couple extra picks of some popular teams.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, okay With the first pick. Of course Cam Ward has to be. He checks all the boxes size, arm talent. The guy is a charismatic guy. I think the Titans would do no worse than drafting Cam Ward, but these are the Titans, I don't do trades in these things. So I'm thinking that Cam Ward, regardless of who would trade up if they trade up, cam Ward would be the first pick of the draft. I love what he did to Cal on the road at the U when he was down 25, and then brought that team back in Berkeley way across the country, and there's several games where he brought that team back. So Cam Ward he speaks well, knows the game and he's my first pick, number two, the Browns.
Speaker 2:I got him going Travis Hunter, gentlemen and I'll tell you why Because, even though you know your boy, miles Garrett, might leave, you need somebody to sell tickets. This guy is going to play DB right after game. He's a solid DB, but you can also put him at receiver to help out whoever the quarterback is there. He's a dynamic player and he will sell tickets for the Browns. The Browns need something good, you something good, just to take it from there, because Deshaun Watson has been a disgrace. So for number two, I've got Travis Hunter there. This guy's a playmaker.
Speaker 2:Three, the Giants. I've got them taking Shadurah Sanders man who says Aaron Rodgers thinks it's going to happen. You still need a young buck going down the road and I think Brian Dayball is the kind of guy that can bring Shadua Sanders along slowly. I love his size, I love his arm talent and you're talking about a guy that performed under the rest. The offensive line for Colorado was a disgrace at times. They did a little bit better this year, but Shadua Sanders is my three.
Speaker 2:Number four be C Kearns. Patriots. I got them possibly the best player in the draft for Abdul Carter. I love his speed off the edge of Penn State. Abdul Carter is a plug-and-play right now. He might be a tad better than Micah Parsons or a tad faster, if that is. And I got the Patriots taking Abdul Carter. I know I know they got a young quarterback, but you got to play defense too, especially in that division with Buffalo. So four is Abdul Carter with the Patriots.
Speaker 2:Number five Mason Graham, the big defensive tackle out of Michigan, is going to the Jaguars at five. I just love a former wrestler like those people inside. He's got excellent size and mobility and flexibility inside to help out the Walker guy. That was the first pick of the draft out of Georgia a few years ago. So you get a Mason Graham to solidify that inside to help out that defense. The Jaguars defense was a sieve and I think that they can do no worse than draft Mason Graham.
Speaker 2:Number six is the Raiders, my wife's Raiders. Gentlemen, I got them picking Ashton Gentry Since the two quarterbacks are gone. They need a running back in the worst way and I know Pete Carroll loves that running game. He had Eastmode in Seattle. But Ashton Gentry is the real deal, man 225. He runs a 4-5. And it's one of those things where he can break tackles to help out whoever's playing quarterback for the Raiders you got to have a running back to help. It's. Amir White is garbage, the kid from Georgia, and it's just one of those things where they have a solid offensive line so Ashton Gentry won't get beat up. So Ashton Gentry goes six to the Raiders.
Speaker 2:Number seven the Jets. The New York Jets, the J-E-T-S Jets, jets, jets. I'm going to give them Jalen Walker the edge out of Georgia. This guy is off football all the time. The former Buckus Award winner this past season. This guy is a playmaker, he can play off the ball. Oh, you can put him on the edge like Kirby Smart did. He had three sacks against Kelvin Banks in a big game against Texas the first time around. And I think Jalen Walker is going to add to that Jets defense about Quentin Williams and given that the head coach is an ex-defensive guy he's a DB, you know I just think that they go Jalen Walker for the Jets at seven.
Speaker 2:Number eight it's my surprise some people give us some of the other mocks, but Tyler Warren, the tight end, out of Penn State to help out Bryce Young. Bryce Young needs weapons. I think the tight end is a quarterback's best friend and, mark, I think you'll agree because you got Kittle. Tyler Warren is one of those guys. He's an athlete. He lined up at running back at times for Penn State and I think the tight end, he has good size. You can bring him in Carolina. That helps out the other receivers that they have down there in Carolina, especially the young quarterback. I think Tyler Warren would be an impact player, not Bryce Howard, but he'll be close in putting up production for Bryce Young.
Speaker 2:Number nine the Saints. I went out to the Pac-10 or Big Ten if you will, for Arizona's receiver Cut KR and McMillan, 6'5". He's like a Mike Evans clone. The Saints they said they're going to keep your boy. You know, derek Carr, and given that they had injuries at that position, I think the kid McMillan out of Arizona would be godsend for the new coach down there and for the Saints. And they help out Carr tremendously to go with Alavi, who they already have. Chris Alavi is not, you know, he can't do it by himself, you know. So I got them pick, pick and you know, uh, touch her. I'm like. I know I appreciate his name. I number 10, the bears champ, the champ in New Mexico's bears. I got them taken tackle. You know they got the guard through free agency. I got him going.
Speaker 2:Kelvin Banks, out of Texas, the All-Americans, 6'6 1⁄2", 330, 325, whatever the case may be. This guy, some people look at him as a project because he had difficulty against Georgia. But that's Georgia's defense for you. You know he had a solid year and he had an All-American year. He had an All-SEC year and you can't coach size man. He's a little bigger than Will Campbell who I projected, but slide him in the guard. So the Bears have guards. So I think in banks you can't protect them enough. You know, I don't know who the tackles are out there, but you need someone on the outside to protect the blind side. And I think he did Yeoman's job at the University of Texas, you know. So there you go, right there. Fellas, dallas, how about this? You know this is one of the routines across. I got them going.
Speaker 2:Tyler Booker, the offensive guard, 6'5" 352, from Alabama. I think they need help to protect Dak. You know, because they picked up a tackle two years ago out of Tulsa, tyron, it was Tyron something, but you got to go interior. Dak didn't brush it up the middle. And given that Zach Morkin fellas, retired, I'm going to go with the big boy from Alabama, nick Saban's former boy, the All-SEC, all-america, booker, 6'5" 352. The Vikings you know well my father. Let's go there first. Mikel Williams, the kid from Georgia, 6'5" 265. He had two sacks against Texas when he was healthy, banker injury against Clemson week one really wasn't himself. He put him on the edge. You know, and he's one of those guys, that he's a freakazoid. You know Walker got picked first overall and I think he's better than Walker, you know, for Jacksonville. So give me Mike Hill Williams for the Falcons. You know, and we'll take it from there. You know your Chargers and I'll leave you with this. I don't want to give up the whole dogma. Chargers Micah Abuka, the receiver from Ohio State.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Playmaker.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:You know he can be a one. That's how good he is. Ohio State has a reputation for turning great receivers and they're all pros, and this is the latest you know, given that they had a true freshman who was a wide receiver one for them. And Emeka Abuka did not disappoint Marlon. And this guy has size and speed 4'3", 8", 4'4". Whatever the case may be, you could put your boy, lamb McConaughey, in the slot and there you go, right there. You know you went younger. You don't have to pay a grip for T Higgins because you're in a good spot. You're making a wooker right there. Yeah, and take it from there.
Speaker 1:I love it I love it.
Speaker 2:So we've got the top ten and a couple other teams that are high profile. I already mentioned the 49ers. You know picking up their, you know linemen, so you know it is what it is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, mark, who did you have the Giants taking? I'm sorry, who did you have the Giants taking?
Speaker 2:The New York Giants.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:Shadurah Sanders. I'm sorry, shadurah Sanders.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:I'm glad Because I've been kind of tired of hearing his name pretty much just being tarnished and dropped.
Speaker 3:And after watching two years of him play at Colorado, I don't know what else a guy needs to do to be in the top five of a league. Where the quarterback is the most important position on your team yeah, I get it, he's not a burner and stuff like that. Where the quarterback is the most important position on your team yeah, I get it, he's not a burner and stuff like that. But I mean, how many teams are trying to get away from the running quarterback? Right, they want a guy that can stand there and deliver the ball and from what I've seen, that dude he can make any throw from any angle and to not have a running game for two years, for two years in d1 college football, not have a defense, not have an offensive line to put up the numbers that he put up and for them to win as many games as they did this year.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, like I, I think people are just really out to get after dion, because this whole offseason, before the college season started, people have Colorado projected to win in three games and Deion was an issue in all this and yet they come back and they're in a bowl game, a freaking bowl game. Two years after winning one game, you've got to give the dude his due. I'm glad you had him going to the Giants. I think the Giants would be foolish to not take Shador if he's on the board, knowing that they've needed a quarterback for the past 10 years or so even with Eli getting old.
Speaker 3:So how do you feel about this? I see the Giants trading out of that second pick. I think the Browns holding on to that second pick is absolutely foolish for the needs that they have. They have a quarterback that has guaranteed money out there and they have no plan and they're not going to take Shador. Travis Hunter is not a bad pick for them, but what is Travis Hunter going to really do to impact winning on that team? Like he's light. He's light in the pants. He's going to be a really good corner.
Speaker 3:But I'm talking about a franchise that has been bad forever and they need a. Like he's light in the pants. He's going to be a really good corner. But I'm talking about a franchise that has been bad forever and they need a ton of players. Like their cap is so bad they can't go get any player that they really want to go get. They have no trade access other than Miles Garrett. They're trying to play hardball, which is absolutely insane, and they don't have anyone that's going to be willing to go there and create a seed. What do you think about them possibly trading out of that two-figure?
Speaker 2:Well, I think you stay where you're at. And if you don't get Travis Hunt, I'm glad you asked this question, mark, because then you get Abdul Carter, who I got number four going to the Patriots, because if you lose my old guy you have nothing as an edge, you know, and you know he's not coming back to Cleveland. So you get Abdul Carter out of Penn State and there's your young edge rusher right there and he's that good too, you can play in the space, and that's assuming they don't get the playmaker. You know, travis Hunter, you made a good point relative to the Giants. The G-men are starving. I don't think Shadouraah Sanders is ready to start day one. So this is why you bring in Aaron Rodgers, a la what Atlanta did last year with Cousins and then they drafted the young kid Pennix out of Washington. But the Giants are in bad shape.
Speaker 2:Mark, to answer your question, I just think that G-men they need somebody young to learn under Aaron Rodgers. Then if they don't get Aaron Rodgers, you still get Shadurah Sanders, you know, and take it from there. But to answer your question, I think you stay at two. You work hard for the second pick. I think generational talent speaks for himself, whether it's Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter, especially if you lose Miles Garrett, which it looks like he's not going back. So I just had Hunter go in there because he's a generational talent, best athlete in the draft. You play him on both sides of the ball. They need seats, they need ticket price, they need something you know and take it from there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I agree. I think you know your draft in this year is one of those drafts where if you're in the top three, there's a reason why you're in the top three. You're trash. You don't have a plan and the plan that you had ain't worked for a while, I think. When you start getting into the tens right now, I think these are all teams that are close to being contenders again and they probably just had some things that didn't go right this year and that's why they have a high draft pick, except for the Cowboys. I think they're just fucking clueless, like let's just be honest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they are.
Speaker 3:They don't have a plan and the plan that they have don't make no sense whatsoever. The Raiders I think the Raiders are up and coming If they just honestly just stick with it and stop panicking so much and trying to be the. They're trying to be the West Coast Dallas Cowboys. They want to be the top of everything and it doesn't result in winning. So, yeah, I think if you're in the top three right now I think there's you've got to have some type of plan to get out of where you are in the next five years. I think the Patriots are sitting good at four because they kind of found their quarterback. They got Bray Bull in, who they should have hired anyway instead of Mayo. Mayo wasn't ready to be a coach.
Speaker 3:Good point they're kind of doing things the right way, but they still have a rebuild ahead of them. They're at least in the division where it's like it's Buffalo, and then we'll see what Aaron Glenn doesenn does with the jets, because they have a whole bunch of issues as well. But they're in the afc east where you know we've seen it over over time where you know you can win easily eight games and and get yourself into a good position and start building. So yeah, I agree, um, I just think cleveland, I mean, I just they're the one team that honestly doesn't get talked about enough as just being the one of the more dumber teams in the NFL. Or that's Sean Watson trade. After knowing all that they knew to give that man that much money. That was absolutely insane.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, mark, and this is for a loyal fan base that the Brownies, their fan base, has been, you know, supportive, and they're one of the best fan bases in the entire league. I just think you know I'm going back to Bernie Kosar and before then Brian Sight, you know, and then players like that. They've been all pros, all the famous. You know the GM for Baltimore, the ex-GM, you know the uh, the gm for baltimore, the ex-gm, you know ozzie newsom, cleveland. So they're god bless them, they're hanging in there. But you're right, mark, it's been buffoonery the last 10, 15, 20 years for them. It's been great dialogue here. Fellas were to the draft. Mark, uh, marlin, marlin, I know you want to move on to the nba real quick yep, let's go and take it from there.
Speaker 1:Yep, let's do it all right. So, uh, doc, I'll go ahead and start with you real quick. So, looking at Luka and the Lakers looking pretty good right now, second in the West. I'm not saying that we're going to jump up and get to the number one seed, but just your thoughts overall on this past couple weeks, on this new look, luka Lakers.
Speaker 2:Well, it started slow. Obviously, Luka had to get his legs on and get in shape. I'm saying LeBron got in here to ride the bike a little bit more, put the beard out. The organization did yeoman's work. There was no other team involved. You're seeing Luka at his best, not only scoring but passing the rock, the fancy passes. It's just the basketball knowledge and the basketball IQ that doesn't get talked enough with Luka. You know he got away with a lot of things in Dallas. You know he had to score Out here. He doesn't have to score.
Speaker 2:Being in the LA market, marlon, you know it's one of those things where the people out here are excited about the Lakers being the number two seed. I think it will be sustainable. You know LeBron is looking energized because he doesn't have to do so much and the West better watch out. Now you could commercially say Jimmy Butler going to Golden State Mark is a godsend also because now it looks like Curry, you know, is playing looser and free and doesn't look as tired and hurt up like he used to because he doesn't have to do it.
Speaker 2:Jimmy Butler goes to the rack, he gets free throws. You know you don't need another shooter like a Klay Thompson. In past years. He got old, but Jimmy Butler is infused with some thing. You heard Draymond Green saying they can win the title. I don't know about that, but those two organizations, they're iconic here on the West Coast the Lakers and the Warriors, marlon and the rest of the West better watch out. But to answer your question, yes, I think this team is sustainable to stay at number two. You know and take it from there because, of Luka.
Speaker 1:What do you?
Speaker 3:think, Mark, I don't think the Lakers are going to win a championship this year. I don't think they're going to win one next year. I don't think Luka plays a lick of defense, like he doesn't even attempt to play defense. And when you get into a series, it's cool One game here, one game there against another team, and they can come out here and dominate. But you get into a series and they isolate Luka on somebody. He's going to get torched and you better find five guys on the floor that are willing to cover him every single time. And who's to say that Luca ain't going to get hurt between now and the playoffs? We've seen it and we've seen it over and over again lower body, not lower body injuries in the NBA. It's not a good thing. And when he's as big as he is and he handles the ball and he's the focal point of the offense, he cannot be less than 100% because he already don't play defense. And now you've got to, you know, sacrifice something on offense. It's going to be tougher, I think, in the playoffs and we're going to see, you know, if they're going to be good enough.
Speaker 3:I think the Warriors have been playing better basketball lately than the Lakers have. They've been blowing cash out. They just went up to Madison Square Garden yesterday and came back on a double-digit deficit and won by double digits. They were in Orlando. Orlando is one of the best defensive teams in the NBA Down 20, and they won by over 20. So I think the Warriors, honestly are a tougher matchup right now because they play both sides of the ball and they make you run all day long, Whereas Luka is is really good at what he does, but that's on one side of the floor and when you get matched up in a series and teams actually can see you over and over again, it's just going to be easier to isolate him in space and we're going to see how good these guys are.
Speaker 3:Because it's LeBron, it's still LeBron, Like, however you want to cut it and dry it Like Luka has a bonus hand, but that team goes, LeBron goes, and if LeBron has to, you know, take off the 40-year-old cap and put on the 30-year-old cap. I'm not sure he can do it. So they don't have room protection. Their defense lost something they put in Vanderbilt. He can't shoot, so you ain't got to guard nobody on that side of the ball. I still see the same issues that they've been having and I don't even know how that trade was even made and got through. To be honest with you, that was totally unacceptable to the NBA to just shop him to one team behind closed doors and personal relationships. To me, they want the Lakers to be in the postseason to get money and I get it, and they did get buzzed, but right now I think the warriors are easily playing better basketball than the lakers are.
Speaker 2:Well, it's 17 and 3 mark before, uh, marley's 17 and 3 since january or whatever before the luca trade. And uh, you know red reddick who I've criticized especially early. He does have luca playing, uh, a little bit more defense than I've seen in the past few games. Again he has to get his legs on it. So it's a healthy rebuttal there with me and Mark there, marlon, defensively he should be playing better defense.
Speaker 3:The dude's 6'9" yeah, I think he should be dominating on both sides of the ball. Man, there's no excuse to be out there flailing on on defense like that. Like right you're, you're, you're a beast, like go out there and and when he's cooking he's talking, but he gets cooked way too much and I would love to see sga and him go at it. And there's no way he's going to guard sga. There's no way he's going to do it. So I mean, you can only hide that dude for so long, but it's easier to do doc, and you know, in marlin one game, you can hide that man for one game. But it's easier to do Doc, and you know it Marlon One game, you can hide that man for one game. When you talk about a seven-game series, they're going to find that dude and they're going to change lineups and they're going to do what they've got to do to isolate him on defense. And that's when the stuff is going to get real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's fair. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. That's fair, martin. What about the East Coast? Jim, I got to bring in the East man, cleveland's a machine. They won tonight at 52-10. I think they're going to overthrow Boston. You know, I love all this NBA dialogue and I'm glad you brought this up, martin, because, being from the Southeast, I think Cleveland, I'm pulling for Donovan Mitchell. I've never been a Celt Celtics fan. Let's go back to Burr and Parrish and McHale and Dennis Johnson killing my Hawks. We just got to give it up. They won it all last year. But this is for you, gentlemen. I know we're on the West Coast and Marlon, in your case, you're in the Midwest, but what do you think? Or Southwest, what do you think about Cleveland doing the business and possibly winning it all? You know your call.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I think Cleveland can win it all. I haven't been impressed with Boston, but I do know from winning championships and Marlon you can attest to this when you guys had Shaq and Kobe, regular season just ain't a challenge no more. You kind of know how to maneuver your way through a regular season because you're not scared to go on the road. So for me I think Boston is still dangerous because they know how to win on the road. They know what games are important. Cleveland has not shown enough to me in the past few years of having this team to trust them, because they've been favorites in the first round and they've gotten totally mollywhopped. So I'm not sold on Cleveland. They're getting dudes like Ty Jerome, they're having career years and that's lightning in a bottle, but that fizzes out at some point. Kenny Atkinson has been a good coach. He's turned franchises around but they've never made it over the top. So I'm just going to go on history. I think it's going to be between Boston and Cleveland, but I think Boston makes it out of the East Okay that's fair.
Speaker 2:This has been great dialogue, fellas, to tell you about it.
Speaker 1:One team. I just need to say two unfortunate things. Obviously, the Kyrie injury that definitely was devastating, Just looking at how good he's playing and he was scoring more points, getting more shots up now that Luka was gone Then with the ACL and he definitely came back and made those two free throws. So it's just a testament to him and what he stands for. So definitely going to miss him. And it sucks because at this point I want to say I feel like he's what 35? He's up there in age.
Speaker 1:And just to know obviously the rest of this year is done and then a good chunk of next year too as well. That sucks. So that's number one. Number two the 76ers man. This was a team that I know at least a lot of people had going far in the east, at least top four or five in the east. I mean, you got the weapons, but Eric Gordon, paul George, embiid, maxie it's a disaster in Philadelphia. I don't know where they go or what they do from here, but you're in the East and you have players and you're what 20 wins or something like that. Like it's a disaster what they got going on in Philly.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, brother, because Embiid said from day one before training camp ended that he wasn't going to play back-to-back. That set the tone. Now Maxie's the only one I can say, mark and Marlon, that he's balling out on the daily base. I love Maxie, but it goes to note that you knew what you got with Paul George. He did the same kind of nonsense out here in LA and Embiid destroyed the team. They're going to have to start over man. You know, I know they paid Embiid and Embiid won the MVP two years ago. But you know it starts with the big man and his attitude and staying healthy. You know they shut him down again. You know they're left-lead Bobison. I don't know what they have to do, but yeah, he's gone, so he goes loaded.
Speaker 3:They. But yeah, he's gone. They got to fire Daryl Moore. He's building the same team that he had when he was in Houston, where he chases names instead of fits. And Eric Gordon I don't even know how that dude's still in the league. That dude, he don't play a wicked defense. He only makes wide-open threes and he's hurt. They messed up when they got rid of PJ Tucker. You got to have dogs on your team when you've got three superstars that are offensive-minded like they do.
Speaker 3:I agree with. Doc. Maxie's been sensational this year and B should have never played in the Olympics and they should have nipped that in the bud to begin with. The Clippers did it with Kawhi and the Sixers should have did the same thing. We get it, dude.
Speaker 3:You want to play, you want to get a gold medal, but you've got a full career ahead of yourself. You're a big man. You'll be able to play in the next Olympics. You'll be okay. If these dudes really are serious about winning championships, at some point you've got to put that in your mindset. Steph didn't play in a lot of Olympics because of winning titles and going deep in the playoffs and needing that rest to win more, because at the end of your career. Nobody cares about 2024 Olympics. They care about how many rings you won and how dominant you are in the regular season for the association, not for the FIBA. Nobody cares about FIBA. Bro Dudes are jumping over here, coming on boats, coming on planes, lying about their age to get into the association. Fiba is not the end-all be-all and he has to stop taking it more serious in the offseason about playing in these meaningless games than he does in the regular season, or else his career is just going to go down the tank, absolutely.
Speaker 1:All right, so real quick, a couple more questions before we get on out of here. The March Madness, obviously, is coming up and I believe Selection Sunday, I think, is this Sunday, so if I'm not mistaken. So all right. No, it's next weekend.
Speaker 2:It's next weekend, okay, all right.
Speaker 1:I know it's coming up Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So now, just looking at it, obviously the bracket's not fully out yet, but you already have some automatic qualifiers that are in there. So who are some teams that you guys both think possibly have a good shot at making it to winning it all? Doc, I'll go ahead and start with you. You said who don't have a chance who have a shot to win it all.
Speaker 2:Oh well, auburn and Duke are the top two, and then you draw a line fellas. Then you say SEC with Alabama, but Alabama, coach, be tripping. Sometimes Tennessee, florida, you got Houston, you got Houston. Say the SEC with Alabama, but Alabama, coach, be tripping. Sometimes Tennessee Florida, you got Houston, you got Houston. I like to coach you down in Houston. Yeah, mark, norwood, right. And then I like the Houston coach to do some things. But right now Duke, and you know Auburn, even though Auburn lost two nights ago. Where do teams to be fellas? You know, take it from there.
Speaker 3:I like Duke. I do not like Auburn. I don't like the way they play because when you get in March, madness, you cannot. There's going to be games where you cannot control the tempo because you're not playing someone you're familiar with. So I don't like the way they play. I don't trust Bruce Pearl at all. I actually like St John's.
Speaker 2:I really like St John's. Wow, patino, good job, mark. Yeah, patino, go ahead.
Speaker 3:We saw it coming when he got hired and we thought it was coming last year. I thought they dogged him last year. They didn't put them in and they've had a chip on their shoulder the whole year. And teams like that if you got bullets and board material and they've had it for a whole year, it's going to be easier for him to coach in March Madness and get those guys ready to play by saying they didn't think you were good enough last year, they don't think you're good enough this year. All you hear is Cooper flag, cooper flag, cooper flag. But I do like Duke and I like St John's, depending on where they end up in the brackets. I would like to see that matchup in the championship.
Speaker 3:Good job Mark.
Speaker 1:And then last question, doc, I'm going to let you take over this one, as far as we're going to wrap everything up with MLB.
Speaker 2:So what questions you got from Mark on MLB. How good do you think your Giants are going to be? Can you come in second or third relative to the National League West? Mark, I'm looking forward to seeing how you compete against the Dodgers. You know the Giants have a history brother and you won it all two or three times out of a six-year span. I think it was with your great manager, who's in Texas now. So what's your take on your San Francisco Giants brother? Real quick.
Speaker 3:Garbage Game has changed. We're not adapting to the way the game has changed. Until they get a superstar, a legit superstar, we're going to be the same team every single year. We're overpaying for older guys. We're not playing the young guys that are dominating the AAA, making foolish trades, holding on to the dudes that played yesteryear. That ain't good, no more. We're not even middle of the pack. We'll win some games, but we're not good at all. We're not going to be good at all. The Dodgers are it in the National League? Ain't nobody going to challenge them, dude, it's going to be the Dodgers and the Red Sox this year.
Speaker 2:Wow, I said the same thing. Good job on that, mark. At least you're honest man about your respective squad. We'll get into baseball as soon as the Seymour season is cut on, because it's still. The Yankees had some injuries, you know, in spring training. They can't wait for spring training to go over. But, mark, this has been a pleasure brother. You know it really has, and you know so. Yeah, marnie, continue brother.
Speaker 1:All right, well, shoot other than that, mark. You got anything else for us?
Speaker 3:No, man, I enjoyed it Anytime I could talk sports with people that know what they're talking about. Let me speak. I love it Thinking outside the box. Anytime you guys want to talk, on or off, whatever, just hit me up Sounds good, all right, well shoot.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:We'll get DocMod 2.0 next week. Take another deeper dive into it and we'll catch you guys next time Peace, peace, god bless.