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From Tennis Grand Slams to NBA Finals: This Week's Biggest Sporting Moments
Tennis takes center stage with epic championship matches at Roland Garros that captivated fans across the globe. Coco Gauff overcomes world #1 Aryna Sabalenka despite dropping the first set, showcasing her defensive prowess and mental toughness to secure her second straight Grand Slam title.
• Carlos Alcaraz defeats Jannik Sinner in a five-hour marathon final that recalls the glory days of McEnroe vs. Borg
• Sabalenka's post-match comments raise eyebrows as she fails to give proper credit to Gauff's victory
• Connor McDavid and the Edmonton Oilers battle Florida Panthers in the NHL Stanley Cup Finals
• Tom Thibodeau's shocking firing by the Knicks after reaching Eastern Conference Finals demonstrates organizational instability
• Thunder and Pacers provide unexpected NBA Finals matchup with series tied 1-1
• Tyrese Halliburton continues clutch performance with perfect 5-for-5 record in game-winning moments
• Aaron Rodgers signs one-year deal with Steelers, raising questions about Pittsburgh's quarterback strategy
• Yankees-Red Sox rivalry heats up as Boston takes two of three in New York despite Aaron Judge's continued dominance
• Detroit Tigers surprise with MLB's best record behind strong pitching
And welcome everybody to another episode of Real Talk. Doc, you doing all right today.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir, I sure am. We missed last week because of undying circumstances and we're back strong baby, let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 1:We're back, we're here, we're ready. We got a lot to get into. I mean, we'll finish up, of course, with MLB Padres and Dodgers, that series going on. We'll recap a little bit of the Yanks and the Red Sox, some big news with Tibbs we got to go and dive into that. We weren't able to do it last week. And then, of course, recap of the finals. We got game one and two. Doc will talk and weigh in on some hockey, but we're going to start with a little tennis. It's been a huge topic over the weekend. We've had a great series for the Rolling Garros. I'm a huge tennis guy so this is right up my alley watching, you know, from the small 250, 500 tournaments all the way up to the Grand Slam. So this was huge, this was major. Doc, did you get a chance to watch any of the tennis yourself?
Speaker 2:No, mostly the highlights, brother, but I'm attuned to what transpired, man. I mean, you know, a five-hour match between Center and Al Karev, that's epic. You know, this is McEnroe versus Bjorn Borg or Jimmy Connors back in the 80s. This is one of the best matches in the history of the sport. You know, this is one of the best matches in the history of the sport, you know. And so yeah, you know those guys. It is a considerate upset because Senna had it, brother. But props to Alcaraz man for doing the thing.
Speaker 2:On the women's side, brother, I'm sure you'll agree this. Coco Gauff her winning over the number one rank, you know player, that's big in and of itself. You can argue it's even bigger than what Alcaraz did. Because Coco Gaul we all know her 10th title, her second straight Grand Slam, something sick Serena Williams-esque. But this is a situation where she was down a set. I don't know tennis that well, but you do Marla Down a set and have the heart to come back and win the last two sets. That's a great attribute for the young 21-year-old, just a kid man, 21 years old In context, my daughter's 20, and I still call her a kid. But God bless Coco Kauf, she's doing some unprecedented things at such a young age. I mentioned the 10 titles, but her second straight Grand Slam, you know, over a massive underdog going into that match.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sebelinka, overall she's world number one versus world number two, so it was a. You know what everybody wanted to see versus world number two. So it was a um, you know what everybody wanted to see. Overall, coco is a. So this one, they do three. They do three sets with the women. Do so you can win straight sets, um, but the men you have to win three. So, uh, and with the men it's a little weird. They go on to different tiebreakers and sometimes they end up in a fifth set, which is what we saw with center and and alcaraz. But with this one, sabalinka won the first. It was in a tiebreaker too as well, so that was. You could tell, obviously, how close it was if it got to a tiebreaker. I believe it ended up with being 7-5 for the tiebreaker.
Speaker 1:But Coco, she held her ground and she's the best defender on tour. She doesn't always serve the best. She double faults all the time. She can never ace when she needs to. She can't serve consistently over 115 miles per hour, you know she, but she's, she's young and she's only going to get better. And, to your point, she won the us open back in 20, um, you know 23, which was obviously out here, uh, and then she wins this one. So now next you got Wimbledon and then you have the Australian Open out of the four big ones that she's obviously, you know, going to win. But Sebelinka's been around, she's won a lot of these. I think this is her third. She makes a lot of finals but she's won, I think, three of the big ones. This is Coco's second. So you know they're back and forth.
Speaker 1:Iga Svirantek's another one. She's a big name. She did drop a little bit in the ranking. She is now down to five, but she is still one of the best players on tour. You have to respect her too as well.
Speaker 1:So Sabalenka didn't handle it the best that she should have. Did she play her best game? No, going into the game, I did think Sabalenka would win just because, overall, she is a better player. She serves better, her forearm's better, her backhand's better. The only thing that Coco is better than her, in my opinion, defensively. Coco, like I said, the best defensive player.
Speaker 1:But Sabalenka is a better player and she knows that she did not play well, but you got to be a better sport than that. She's used to winning all the time, but she's the best right now in women's tennis. But you have to at least shake hand as you're doing your press conferences. Just don't come off as if you're just being a sore loser. You're pouting. Everybody gives you their credit whenever you beat them. So just because you didn't play great which and some of those wins that you've had other players have not played great, but you don't see them on the podium saying, hey well, I didn't play my best tennis and all that like, no, okay, you had over 70 unforced errors. You it was. It was a really, really bad game, and this is why I thought that Sebelinka would win, because she doesn't typically make those errors.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It was a great match on Saturday and then on Sunday, recapping. Going back to that, with this one, alcaraz. I believe he's 21 or 22. He's young. You can tell he's going to be one of the best players overall in tennis. Best players overall in tennis when we talk about the Djokovic's and the Federer and Nadal's. His name is going to be Murray's. His name is going to be up there eventually, and center two as well. They're young. They will be there for years and years to come.
Speaker 1:So it's just great to sit and watch a full match like that. Now, center, some would say, hey, you got to finish, you got to close this thing out. But Alcarez opinion, he is the best player, uh, you know, in men's tennis. So this is definitely one that, uh, I, I love the full weekend and this was clay season and now we're on to grass season, which wimbledon is coming up in about a month, month and a half, and then the us open later down the road. So tennis is is my thing I love. I know I'm I'm going on and on, but, but this is my wheelhouse man and I loved every second of it.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm glad you're enlightening me. For a fan like myself who's borderline not interested, this was an epic weekend. My mother-in-law played tennis back in the 60s in high school, but it's one of those things where, when I grew up, it was McEnroe as a reference, it was Jimmy Connors, born George, a German, and then, of course, martina Navratilova and Chris Everett back in the early to mid-80s, late 80s. But Coco Gauff, as you referenced man, that lady, her opponent, has to be more classy. You know, don't just go up there saying that it wasn't Coco Gaul, it was more you and that unforced errors. Just be classy about it.
Speaker 2:And as you referenced Marlon, for the tennis lovers out there, people are trying to get in there. They don't want to hear this BS because when she wins, so blink her, they're courteous to her. So this was a massive upset and just call it like it is You're the number one rank in the world and you're a huge favorite. I don't think I've ever seen a favorite that huge. And Coco Koff came back from a set down and beat your ass. So you know, props to her.
Speaker 1:But yeah, but you know hey, she's used to winning and it's hey, you're not going to always play your best tennis. It doesn't matter what surface it is hard, clay, grass, it doesn't matter what it is You're always not going to play your best tennis. And in this case you just didn't capitalize off of some of the errors, because Coco didn't play perfect either. Like I said, with her serve it's not always the best serve. Her second serve is sometimes it's only 70 miles per hour, which is atrocious. But you know you don't want to double fault and have that many errors. But hey, it is what it is. But you're not always going to play your best tennis. On any given day you can go and run through all these other people in the first, second and third round, but you're going to come across your Iga Svirantec, your Rabikinas, your Madison Keys, your Pagoulas. Your a ton of them. Polonis, you're going to come up with, or Paulini, excuse me, you're going to come up and face some of these better competition players and you're not always going to win. But yeah, she's a powder, she's very smashing rackets and all that. That's just who she is. But you don't see other women do that. But she's used to winning and whenever she didn't get her way. She just wants to sit there and pout Overall. Yeah, definitely looking forward to women's coming up soon, as I said earlier. So we definitely will look forward to that.
Speaker 1:All right, so on to some NHL. We got Florida in the Oilers, doc. What are your thoughts on? What are we on right now? Game three is tonight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, game three is tonight, brother, and you know I'm dialed in, brother. I go back to USA versus Canada thing and Alex Ovechkin's chase for the gold record over Gretzky. This has got my attention now I was a borderline fan, Now I'm all in because of Big Ant and, of course, the media attention relative to Conor McDavid and the Oilers. You know the second coming of Wayne Gretzky. You know, because, remember, wayne Gretzky was young in the early 80s for the same Edmonton Oilers team, but Florida, florida's giving them the bitch man. They Edmonton Oilers team, but Florida, florida's giving them the bitch man. They're giving them problems because remember the Panthers, they've won it a couple of times, if memory serves me correct. So they're split 1-1 and I think they're playing now in fact.
Speaker 2:But it goes noted man, connor McDavid is one of the youngest stars in the league and people say he's the fastest skater in the history of sport. You know, know, I'm not privy to some of the history of the game relative to bobby orr and mario lemieux. I know a name you know and you know sid sidney crosby, sid the kid, but uh, I'm still trying to learn the game as far as power play. But I'm I'm pulling for conor mcdavid man. This would be the coup de grace for him. You know, as far as far as being a great player in Edmonton and all that you know. I know it's Canada, but it's one of those things that will be good for the sport if the best player in the game, or second best after Alex Ovechkin, wins it all. You know it's an entertaining series, man. You know winning on the road is a bitch, though, and Florida's done that. So yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1:Did you give your actual prediction on who you got winning on this one?
Speaker 2:No, I haven't. I think Edmonton is going to win in six and I'm giving all the respect in the world to Florida Panthers, but Edmonton, they did suffer a significant injury to one of the main contributors. He's out and that happened last week. I forget his name, so maybe that plays in the Florida's favor. You know I don't have nothing against the Florida Panthers. You know I've lost nothing in Florida relative to hate or discontent. I just want to see good hockey to get me into this sport, you know. And in the late 70s we had Willie Pledg for the Atlanta Flames and then the Flames left in 81 or 82, I forget and went to Calgary. So it was a little bit of hockey in the South at that time. Then it came back and they were the Thrashers. So yeah, I'm just getting back into it and I credit. As I referenced to USA versus Canada four or five months ago.
Speaker 2:Yeah so I'm going with Edmonton.
Speaker 1:Okay, I love it. All right, so now we're switching over to the NBA. We weren't on last week, so we have some major news.
Speaker 2:well, I guess to recap and go over, and I believe this is where Doc goes ahead and gets it off his chest- man in the big market and coach Thibodeau brought that team to the playoffs last year, went to the second round, was devastated by injuries. This year they made it to the eastern conference finals. Now you can fault them for a lot not playing the bench or making some moves late against Indiana but you don't fire the guy, man. This is a franchise that is hungry for continuity. You know, two days after they made the eastern conference finals in in Game 6, I think, or maybe in Game 5, you blow the guy out.
Speaker 2:Now you've got to pretty much start over, and Brunson was overly in favor of Coach Thibodeau. Man, this is something that you don't do and I heard that the owners are tripping up there. He's always been a trip, but Coach Thibodeau is the best thing they had going, given that for two decades and a half they've done nothing since Ewing was in the league and missed the layup against Houston. That thing's just ridiculous stuff. And granted, there's the rivalry and all that you lost to the Indianas a great rivalry in the NBA but it shows no class, no know-how on how to treat people. As far as continuity goes, they got Cat because of Thibodeau, you know they got the other Cat his name escapes me. They gave up five number ones because of Coach Thibodeau.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And so now, with a new coach, you're going to have to say well, we're going into a new system. Do we need those players that we get major capital to? We can't even make a trade if we want Giannis Antetokounmpo, you know, because they have nothing. So I just disagree with him, not even a Knicks fan. But in a big market like that man, a guy that's taking you to back-to-back deep playoff runs the previous year on an insane injury, this year you was healthy. You know that's crash, that's, that's classless. So yeah, there, you go right there, doesn't?
Speaker 1:doesn't make any sense. As you said, in, in 25 years you've went as furthest as you've been. Um, you know maybe what is he too? Top heavy with the starters, not not really relying on the bench, like you know what is it? It's. It's to me it's a no-brainer to obviously keep him because you're going obviously in the right direction, um, but now, yes, you're right, you have to start over. And then new systems, new schemes, uh, you know drafting. Do they try to just blow it up and make some make some trades is cat out there. You know, like what are you going to do going forward? So I'm just outside of looking in.
Speaker 1:I'm intrigued as to what their next steps are, and they better make it further, because boston's probably going to get blown up, which we know, but I think they'll still be relevant. Um is the 76ers. We can only hope, with them shutting down their superstars, that they're going to be back. Um. Milwaukee we'll see what goes on with Giannis, to see if he stays. Kevin Durant we'll see if he's somewhere on the East Coast. Miami's going to be a team that's going to be relevant. So there's a lot of teams. I know I'm missing. The Cavs are still going to be there. Yeah, shoot the Pacers. So there's at least going to be five or six teams that will start off somewhat better, because they're not starting over.
Speaker 2:So they're already a step ahead of you because not dealing with new coaches?
Speaker 1:Because you know, nowadays new coaches do they really hit it off the week one or year one, or does it take some time? So yeah, we'll see. We'll see how that works, but I don't know. They better at least make it to the finals next year, because if not, what are we doing?
Speaker 2:Well, the rumor is Jason Kidd, down in Dallas, is going to entertain the offer. But they got to trade for Jason Kidd because he's on the contract and I think that general manager down there pissed off Jason Kidd with the Luka trade way back when. So it's one of those things where Nick's trade for him. You know what. Are they going to give up to go back to Dallas? You know their capital as a restaurant is short. Are you going to give up the big man? Are you giving up Mitchell Robinson? Are you going to give up some other players? You've got to keep Cat, you've got to keep Brunson. Who else you going to give up, man? So I don't know. We'll see how New York go. This is the biggest market in the world and you like to see New York stay relevant and consistent. I don't personally agree with Coach Thibodeau on some of his things, but I'm not a fan. But to blow him out like that, that was classless, you know, and that's going to end up being a mistake, trust me All right.
Speaker 1:So on to the NBA Finals. Game three is Wednesday night. Yeah, it's interesting, they get a little more of a break. Game three is Wednesday. Game four is Friday. They're taking off for Father's Day. They're kicking back game five to Monday. They got some rest time in between these these games. But of course game one, indiana pulls it off with that last second shot. I believe that was the the point. Three seconds was the only time that they were up in the game, so that was pretty cool. And then game two. I think we knew OKC was going to have that bounce back game. And then game two. I think we knew OKC was going to have that bounce back game. So here we are going into week three. But before just your recap of game one and game two, don.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll tell you, man, game one was one of the best games we've seen as far as one team being on the road and doing what they did. It begs the question is Tyrese Halliburton known as a superstar? I think he is. Tyrese Halliburton known as the superstar? I think he is. You don't go five for five the last two years, four this year, where you hit game winners sitting in overtime or winning a win the game with seconds left. I think he's a superstar. You don't have to be a superstar, marlon, to average 38 games and be a ball heart. You can affect the game many ways. This guy is clutch. He's Mr Clutch for that particular team. The rest of the NBA is like some insane 176 losses and three wins with the same kind of scenario. And here you got a guy in Tyrese Halliburton that his peers call him overrated. He's five for five in those moments, big moments On the road. He killed Cleveland three times on the road, dispatched Milwaukee and you know what he did to the New York Knicks on the road, going up 2-0 with one of them with the last second shot. Now you go OKC, who had 68 wins, who only had one loss versus the Eastern Conference on the road. And then he does this on the road in OKC and people have the nerve to say, is this guy a superstar? I think he is. You don't do this. Go five for five the last two years or year and a half with everything clutch and then not be a superstar in and of itself. We're not asking him to be LeBron or Kobe or Jordan or even Kareem or Magic. This guy is who he is for his particular team and I think, going back to Indianapolis Marlon, they can win two games easily at the crib. You know, because they keep coming, they keep coming and if OKC don't have their heads screwed on right, they're going to come back to OKC. I mean, yeah, okc down 3-1.
Speaker 2:You know, I picked OKC before the season. I had OKC in Cleveland, I had OKC winning it, the Thunder. But to me the pressure is on OKC and not the Indiana Pacers. People don't buy into the Pacers. Even now, even after all they've done, people are not buying into them. But I've got to stay consistent relative to OKC winning it at all. But it goes noted, man. You know Tyrese Halliburton, miles Turner. You know the name Neesmart, nate Smith, all those cats, man, you know they're for real and they even got a bench. Rick Carlisle is underrated. So what I'm saying is OKC has to at least minimum get a split, and that goes without saying.
Speaker 1:On the road in Indianapolis they got the best record for a reason, so it's going to be entertaining to say the least, and this is going to lead into your point, but in the playoffs, just in general, when you look at all these teams and you look at the big star or stars that they have, when you look at the Thunder, of course, sga, the Nuggets, you got Jokic Clippers. You got Jokic Clippers, you want to throw Kawhi, maybe Harden in there. Lakers, of course, obviously, lebron Luka, the Timberwolves, you have Ant-Man and even Randall, to a certain extent. Warriors, of course, steph Curry, Bucks with Giannis Brunson, with the Knicks, and then you look at the Celtics Tatum, and Brown.
Speaker 1:And then with Cleveland you got I'll just forget the guy's name, but all of these players have stars and maybe with the Pacers, Halliburton is just not a sexy name. They have a good squad around him, but he doesn't take over games like these guys do and he's just not. He's not necessarily a big market. He's not uh, you know a household name, if you will. But you know, yeah, but to your point, he's doing everything to get his team above and beyond and they're never favored in all these games. And here they are. Nobody's expecting them to win, they're not even supposed to be here. But look at where they're at now and at this point, yeah, you got to say he is a win or lose for this finals. With what he's done up until this point, some big shots that he's made, taking over some games. He's still not a a sexy name player as all the other guys I just listed, but he's doing everything else he has a great team behind him, but he's still doing everything else and taking this team to the finals.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a good point, Marlon. I'm glad you brought that up, because he does average like double digits. One time he scored 14 points and had 10 assists. If you want to see 25 or 30 a game, he's not that player. He can take over the game in many other ways and they do have a team. Now, coach Rick Carlisle man, he has to get respect because remember in Dallas when he won it all, he had Dirt and Whiskey and he had that guard. I forget the guard's name, but was it Jason Kidd? It might have been.
Speaker 2:But I don't know but this is a guy that's their deepest bench man. I mean, their bench is deep. And now you're going back to the Indiana Pacers a basketball hotbed, you know, in Indiana and it remains to be seen. And I know what OKC did in the regular season Marlon, but this is the postseason. On the road tied up 1-1. You gave one up the crib. Can you get one back? Yeah, can you get one back? The way the Pacers came to your crib and stole one, I think they can get two. They had the best record for a reason, but this is a Pacers team that just knows how to mess things up per se and blow you up. So, yeah, I think OKC will be doing better if they get at least one, preferably game three, because, like you said, there are long stretches between game three and game four. So you know, uh, okay, she's still kind of young now, so you don't want them playing in their mind and and paces run. They play that venice beach ball make or break.
Speaker 1:They're on the road, they're running the other way, yeah, you know, so we'll see how it goes Yep, and both home courts are pretty hard to play on tough atmospheres. So it's definitely I'll be. I'm very happy to see you know at least game three and four. See how it plays out. See how home court advantages Can OKC get home court back. So it'll be a good matchup. So I'm excited to see it. What do you have? You got OKC and six.
Speaker 2:OKC and six before the season started. I can't go back now after what transpired, so I'm remaining with that, yeah because I don't think anybody had this on their bingo card.
Speaker 1:Uh, the thunder and the pacers in the finals. So, yeah, if you, uh, you got that, you got to keep it there. So okay all right, anything else on nba before we jump over to some NFL.
Speaker 2:No, no, nothing else. We did the thing with NBA, let's do it.
Speaker 1:All right Now with the NFL. The news we finally. This happened last week, I believe it happened over the weekend, if I'm not mistaken but Rodgers finally signed one year about $10 million. I think he can maybe get a couple million more about $10 million, I think he can maybe get a couple million more. He's going to wear his number eight. I believe he should be showing up to mandatory camp. If not, it's today or tomorrow. So your thoughts on Rodgers finally deciding that he wants to play Doc?
Speaker 2:Well, I'm proud of the Pittsburgh Steelers fans finally got their guy. You don't want to go in the training camp with Mason Rudolph and the other cat and you traded for DK Metcalf, but you let George Pickens go. So we keep expecting the 2011 to 2014 Aaron Rodgers. He's not that guy, but be that as it may, even at age 41, he's better than what they had prior to him signing. So, you know, mason Rudolph at is everybody's third-string quarterback, you know. But Aaron Rodgers man, you would like to think that he has some magic in his arm and his knowledge and skills. You know, they don't have a running game of no in Pittsburgh, whereas with the Jets they at least have Allen, you know, and the kid from Iowa State his name escapes me, but I just think that we're going to find this one-year deal for a reason.
Speaker 2:A guy missed some throws last year with the Jets and he had a star receiver for Ohio State. Yeah, and it's one of those things where you only got DK Metcalf, you got Fryer moved to tight end. Pittsburgh's offensive line has been beat up, you know, and they ran the ball with Najee Harris, who's now with the Chargers. So can Aaron Rodgers still win a game late in the fourth quarter when the running game's not working? Or are they going to tee off because the offensive line has been beat up and insufficient the last two or three years? Maybe it's been the quarterback play, but Russell Wilson at least could move around. We don't see that from Aaron Rodgers anymore because of the injury and prior to that he's just old man, but he's still better than what they have with Mason Rudolph. And this is where you question why they didn't even go after a young quarterback in the draft, whether it was Shadur Sanders, you know, or even Tyler Shaw who was with the Saints Anybody you know they should have they.
Speaker 1:Basically I don't know what they were. They should have really got Shador If you knew that you were going to move off of Rodgers and Wilson.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, wilson and Fields you needed to at least address it with a formidable quarterback that can fit in your offense. And, ok, you don't want to waste the first rounder on your door, fine, second, third, fourth, you know you could have got them him at that point. Now you go ahead and you wait for hold on on Rodgers. At this point you want to look back and say, man, we really should have kept either of those two quarterbacks that we had, because in my opinion, they're younger, they're faster, um, since they can maybe move around and create their own uh shot, if you will. As far as making separation from the players, and I mean I would have, I would have loved Justin Fields back there again without any. You know, for what did he get with the Jets? Two years, you know, 20 million.
Speaker 2:Something like that. But in his defense he wanted out. They offered him a contract not commiserate with the Jets, but that pissed him off so bad mentally that he was out anyway. Now the Russell Wilson thing. To me it takes a year to really acclimate yourself. He was solid, if nothing else. Now he fell apart in the playoffs in the division rival Baltimore where he was pathetic. But that's Baltimore's defense. But now you go into a brand-new thing where he's pretty much a drop-back passer when an offensive line is used to run blocking because of Najee Harris.
Speaker 2:I don't know who the running back is, you know up in Pittsburgh, but it's one of those things where, after losing Najee Harris, the offensive line is used to run blocking. You know they're not used to pass blocking with an immobile Aaron Rodgers. He still has some arm talent there. So DK Metcalf is going to have to be wide receiver one. They're paying him as such and we'll see how it go. You know Fry and Luther is going to be a key. So it's big Darnell Washington, six, seven tight end from Georgia and it's going on his fourth year. But it remains to be seen with that offensive line which is used to run blocking can pass block consistently, given that Aaron Rodgers really does have a running back of note to hand the ball off to, you know. So we'll see in that regard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's Warren is going to be the guy now. So, um, but then a good one two punch last year with Warren and um, so you know, hey, we, we got nausea in a one-year deal, so I'll take every part of it and, uh, we got him and then Amarion Hampton, so I'm hoping that we can have somewhat of a decent one-two punch like they did last year on that. And speaking of the Chargers, jk Dobbins, I thought we would bring him back because the guy, the guy did decent. We had him for one million dollars last year and he still put up some of the numbers that he put up. He did get hurt being out for about maybe four games or so, but he still was fairly decent with us and the numbers that he put up. He did get hurt being out for about maybe four games or so, but he still was fairly decent with us.
Speaker 1:The thing that you hate to see the most is him. Go to your rivalry, somebody in your division. He is signed with the Broncos now. They probably signed him for maybe $3, $4, $5 million in one year and just run him to the ground. I can't blame him for it. So, um, so in other news, um any any updates on kirk cousins no, no, right now we got some ota minicamps going on right there.
Speaker 2:We'll probably have to wait until august when somebody's starter goes down, because everybody knows we're desperate not to want to play that massive salary that he has going into his second year in Atlanta. They know we were trying to get rid of him. So teams are holding on to what they got in draft capital or otherwise to let us sweat it out up until August. You know, if we release him that salary cap, you know for at least three years. But if we trade him and the other team takes some of the heat or some of that money, you know gotta help. But so our teams know that they're smart, so they're gonna wait until somebody goes down and camp something of that nature. It's clearly Michael Pinnock's team and by all accounts he's taking control of this thing and guys are working on their own with him. And the small sample size, of course, because we didn't make the playoffs but three games. The arm talent's there. You saw my UW and B John Robinson's looking for a big year. We'll see how these rookie defenders who we drafted are going to do. I'm looking to see the entire rookie class, in fact Excellent first round man. I want to see what the running back for the Raiders do. You know I want to see the wide receiver McMillan. Arizona is going to team up with Bryce Young. You know I want to see your guy Hampton how he teams up with Najee. Harris is more of a plugger. You got some big offensive linemen. Maybe Dallas' Booker out of alabama at 350, 355, almost 360. How is he gonna do protecting that? So up and down the first round it's going to be a lot of story lines, including the bears champion of new mexico's bears. You know they have some good things. Go their way too. You know, uh, relative to the first round of the draft. But what's his name? Jair Alexander left Green Bay. Yep, Uncircumcisedly so. Marlon, we got to hit on this because Green Bay's defense was spotty to begin with last year. They was hoping on an uptick. You let one of your best cornerbacks go. He still got some tread on the tire. What is he? 29, 30? I think there was an attitude Thing there. He got tired of Green Bays for some reason. So We'll see what that goes on.
Speaker 2:And Nick Chubb Signed with the Texans. Brother, you know I'm pulling for Nick Chubb, but when you had three major injuries to a knee, One at Georgia, two in the league. We'll see what. He got there To help out CJ Stroud. I don't think he's a starter. I think the Cincinnati running back is going to be the starter. But I hope Chubb has at least some contribution where he can run for 600, 650 in 17 weeks. He's only 28, 29, something like that. He came out of Georgia early but the injuries you know as a runner or ex-runner how these things go, so we'll see.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah then. Uh, it's still interesting to see kenan allen still out there, marie cooper still out there, so there's still a lot of big names, uh, that are still out there that have not been signed yet. So, uh, yeah, I can't. I don't know if kenan's waiting for the right, the right team, the right you know financial amount, wanting to move closer back to home uh, did the Bears even offer him anything to come back? So I wonder how that's going to play out.
Speaker 2:Well, marlon, before we move on, jackson Dart for the Giants. What do you expect? Is Russell Wilson going to do the thing for 17 games, or are they going to get tired of him? And then my second thing with you is Brody. Uh, what's the name for the san francisco 50?
Speaker 1:million rock purdy. Yeah, what are you expecting?
Speaker 2:out of there and can cmc stay healthy to help out property. You'll call on that before we move on I'll start with with the niners.
Speaker 1:Um, I I think with them we've seen them do somewhat of a little mini rebuild with trading away and, uh, you know, getting some cap space, not fully rebuilding. I mean, they still got a cmc, they still have kiddo um, but iuk um, you know he's I don't even know if he's going to be fully healthy, which I don't, I don't anticipate. You know, um, debo's gone, so I think they'll be decent enough. Their, their division isn't really top heavy as it used to be. Uh, arizona, arizona's, uh, you know, you can, you know you can beat Arizona, you can beat Seattle, I don't care if you have, you know, sam Darnold, now you can beat those two teams the Rams are going to. They should win the division, they should run away with it. So I think in this, with that extra team, they maybe have a slot to get that last playoff team. But with Purdy you got the money now, so now you have to, you got to take over games now. So that's, that's, that's the expectation for you is to be what we paid you to be. So, um, but I think they'll at least be competitive, at least within the nfc, to get to that last spot.
Speaker 1:Now onto the giants. I think with with theants, they want Dart to be the guy, just not now. I think they'll at least let Russ ride it out. Yeah, because you've got your neighbors and you have some other weapons too as well Tracy in the running back position. So I think they'll let him run it out. They've got to let him figure it out.
Speaker 1:As you said earlier, it takes at least a year to kind of figure out some of these systems out. As you said earlier, it takes at least a year to kind of figure out some of these systems you don't just go into. There's not too many situations where you're a tom brady to where you go into a new system and you win your first year. Yeah, that doesn't really happen at all. So I think they'll let him work it out. He is that veteran presence that you want inside that locker room. But, of course, if the giants are being what the giants have always been and end up, you know, halfway through the season, only have two wins, what do you have to lose to let the kid go out there and play and see what he's got?
Speaker 2:That's a very good point. Good answer, brother. Good response. I can't wait to train the cap. Just stay away from injuries for everybody and the OTAs. Let's get to training camp healthy and then God bless each team and all our friends' teams. I know you beg to differ with Raider S and my wife but you don't want to see anybody get hurt. Let's do it, man. We're only like a month and a half away. This is June, so late July is when they all open.
Speaker 1:Well, and not to mention too as well. July 31st we got that first Hall of Fame game, that's right. So July 31st we play Detroit. That is the first official game, so I'm definitely excited about that and looking forward to seeing some fifth and sixth stringers out there playing, so to see if we have some hidden talent out there. So we'll be looking forward to that. So all right. So baseball, the Yankees and Red Sox recap what do you got on that?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I love that. I love it, arguably the best rivalry in all of sports man, going way back to his early 70s and 60s. You know, aaron Judge man, he's doing this batting 396. That's 23 bombs. He had two bombs yesterday and he lost to the Red Sox. And I love Cora, the Red Sox manager, but they're missing something. You know, rafael Devis hit two bombs yesterday too in New York and I think they come back this weekend and play in Boston. But it goes noted, man, this is a hated rivalry and I don't want Cora to lose his job over some friction in that locker room because Devis doesn't want to move to another position or he's a de-agent with the other cat and I think that pitching has been a problem and all that. So Corey has some things on his hand.
Speaker 2:Now. The Yankees you know they're doing pretty decent being in first place after losing the big guy, the big pitcher, you know. So Max Reed from Atlanta is holding the court, but you need Stanton. You need Stanton to help out Judge. Judge has nobody protecting him. He's still putting up numbers, but can he sustain that? And these are the Yankees, man, you know. And the AL Seattle's doing good, you know.
Speaker 2:But to get back to your question, it was an entertaining series. Boston took two out of three in New York, you know. And they still what? Almost 10 games back or 90, I don't know, maybe seven or eight, I haven't checked the standards. But you know, baseball is good when the Yankees and the Red Sox and the AL is doing good man, and to have that rivalry and the sense of Cleveland Guardians and the AL is doing good man, and to have that rivalry and the sense of Cleveland Guardians and the AL is doing good. Marlon, you got Seattle as a reference and don't forget about the Texas Rangers. You know, and so we'll see how it transpires in the AL going forward, houston, houston's lagging behind, but they got a lot of talent, you know, so we'll see how it goes, brother you know, oh, detroit, I'm not.
Speaker 2:The Tigers are the best record in baseball. Detroit, it's Mary Zimmerman's Detroit Tigers. I forgot to mention the Tigers. Shame on me. They got the best pitcher in baseball man. You know, this guy ain't no joke Shoot A reigning Cy Young Award winner. The Tigers Detroit.
Speaker 1:That's Jack Morris. And then over to the NL Champs Cubbies are looking good. 40 wins, yes. And then we won't talk about the Braves too much.
Speaker 2:No, it's a disgrace, I think. Alex Antopoulos, to be fair, weighing in on this, he bit off more than he can chew. Man, you don't give up a Max Reed in a sport that doesn't have a salary cap. He goes to the Yankees 8-1, with a 1.64 ERA, and Spencer Strider, who was supposed to be an off and on in the field because the injury is coming back from a significant thing. But you know we're 14 back. We won tonight and I'm not looking to. We got to catch the Mets and Philly and that's not a good thing when you're 14 back. In June we would have to go on a ridiculous run In the second half.
Speaker 2:Now you mentioned the Cubbies. They're in a tough division With St Louis and Milwaukee. Of course the Brewers have been red hot recently. They beat the Cubbies yesterday, In fact I think I know Cub. The Brewers have been red hot recently. They beat the Cubbies yesterday, in fact I think I know Cubbies lost.
Speaker 2:But there's one other thing, that particular division man, baseball royalty. You know, when I think of the Brewers, I think of Robin Young, you know, and when I think of the Cubs I think of Sean Dunstan and Mark Grace and St Louis. You think of a lot of players, man, Willie McGee, Vince Coleman you can go through the names but In the National League West, You're West, you play the Dodgers. As we speak, I think you're down 5-3. I don't know what's going on with the Probably start off like a house on fire and the Dodgers have slipped somewhat, but it goes noted. Man, this thing is Going the distance. I'm not giving up on either one of you guys in the National League West, but you've got to add Arizona Diamondbacks to that thing too, you know. So, the Giants, the Giants.
Speaker 1:So you really go four deep yeah.
Speaker 2:You're four deep in the division Marlon, so you really got to bring it.
Speaker 1:You know, and I believe this is the first time we're facing off this year, so this is the first time we're facing off this year. So it's always a back and forth. Yeah, it is. Whenever we play each other, it's always something special. So you know, and every time I tell Estes I say you know, this is, unfortunately, this is our World Series. Whenever we play you guys and we played them a couple years back and beat them in the playoffs, that was our World Series, like that, was it? If we beat them, sadly enough, that's good enough for us, just like with the Chargers. If we beat the Chiefs, we won, we're good. Yeah, yeah, I feel you, brother. We just got to just get over that hump and actually win and sustain this because, as you said, it's going to be a dogfight going down to the wire with this division.
Speaker 2:Well, you know each other so well. You was up 2-1 in the playoffs last year. Unfortunately for you, the Dodgers came back and they had no winner to thank. This year, just carry it. You got the personnel, Machado Tatis, you got some other cats, you know Merriman, or whatever his name is. You know you're down 5-3 in the third right now at home, and that's a beautiful ball. I love petco park.
Speaker 2:It's just so damn far you know, but you want one of those things where I'm looking for this thing to be entertaining, going down the stretch, because the dodgers have been faltering man, despite the massive payroll, you know, and kershaw's been tripping with with ineffectiveness and they got a big contract with him. But you know we'll see how it go Again. Don't discount the Arizona Diamondbacks man, and I know they had a big injury. I think Corbin Burns is out for the year with Tommy John, unfortunately, but you know Arizona ain't no joke either. And then the Giants. I don't know if it's Omar B Kelly Now listen, I don't know if it's that or Marby Cali, it's not listed. I don't think they'll sustain this kind of success in the second half but you never know, man.
Speaker 2:That's what's the fun about baseball, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then the last thing I got for you, you know, it's well two things. So I'm going back home in about three weeks and of course I always try to go to Petco Park whenever I can. And it just so happens that 4th of July weekend, when I'm going to be back home, the Padres out of all places are going to be here playing the Rangers. And I'm like, come on, man, I can't catch a break. And then I'm going to be back in San Diego later that month, in July, and it just so happens that Padres are going to be out of town. I think they're going to be in Pittsburgh or something. So it's killing me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hope we get a chance Fourth of July we'll book with family and all that. But late in July I'll drive down there to see you. No question, maybe we'll do a show down there.
Speaker 1:So that's another thing I was going to think about is Padres. I'm sorry. The Chargers have an open training camp out there and it was going to be that Friday. I was going to be out there, I think on the 19th or something like that, so I was thinking about driving up there and driving back, but I don't know. I'm debating on doing it, but as it gets closer I'll definitely let you know. But on a more serious note, how bad is it getting out there with the cops? Yeah, yeah, how bad is it getting out there it mainly happens.
Speaker 2:The peace will do it today and rioters at night. That's the way it is, and the mayor of LA is pleading with the administration not to bring these tanks and federal you know National Guard, because that incites these people. Man, because you know, a you're breaking up families, you know, and doing that, and not even to see their kids and wives after you put them in detainment, except on the back back and then, b, you know you're not positive in race relations for people out here, relative to well, everywhere in the country, and the administration and the mayor of LA said this you don't want to incite people when families are broken up. You know, everybody know what Trump is and who he is, and it's one of those things where you know it's really gotten dangerous to the point where even a regular passerby is in danger. They lighten up cars and police cars and this, that and the other at night, not during the day. These government buildings are under fire, you know, and even bringing in the Marines, you know, to do some things, but it's a bad situation, man, relative to that, and the administration needs to step up and cool this thing down, as the mayor of la said.
Speaker 2:You know it could be some fatalities if nothing is done to quell some of this anger and angst. That's the word I'm looking for, you know. So it's one of those things where you hate to get political, but it is when you're the head man in DC. You gotta be accountable to some of this stuff, you know. And you know, give some aid or give some reasoning, give some leadership on what transpiring all across the country, not just LA, you know, but it's one of those things where it's become a dangerous situation with ICE. And then you got the thing that oversees Israel and the protests about that, and the administration is lagging behind and trying to quell some of those feelings relative to the peaceful protests on campus, ucla, uc Irvine and all that. So now you got a double thing here and uh, you know you don't want anybody to get hurt, but uh, these things are gonna not gonna stop anytime soon, man, you know.
Speaker 1:So we'll see what's up, it gets, it gets worse and worse, and, and you know, militaries, uh, marines are coming out there and all that stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, brother, I've seen it all Some of these military people. They've seen Afghanistan, Iraq. I've seen Desert Storm in the early 90s. You don't need to be doing all this, man. You know all you have to do is get a whole massive press conference to nationwide a press conference, you know. You bring in the National Guard and tanks. That's not good, you know that's not good. It reminds well, it doesn't remind me really to you. I'm not as old as you think, but the 60s, during the Civil Rights Movement out here in LA, was really bad, with all this National Guard. That's what some of the older people said. That's what some of the older people said. That's what it reminds them of.
Speaker 2:You know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so out here in LA At that time during the Civil Rights Movement it was all over the country Detroit, atlanta, philly, chicago but out here in LA it was really bad in the 60s with the National Guard and some of my elders say reminds them of you know, they're still people, man. You know bottom line Families. So we'll see how it go going forward.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, well, hey, will you, as always, you know, I know you and family, you know, stay safe and all that, but don't get broke up. Thank you, brother, and all that. But yes, hopefully everything gets better. But in the meantime we got NHL finals, we got NBA finals, we have some baseball, so we'll at least have some stuff that we can watch to kind of take our mind off of everything when we go outside in the daytime and at night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, brother. Thank you, and we're safe out here. We hate to get political, but we just can't turn a blind eye on our show to what's going on, because some of our listeners might be in the crowd out there, you know. So we'll just keep praying and see what's going on here and hope everything for the best. That's all we can do.
Speaker 1:Absolutely All right. You got anything else for us today?
Speaker 2:No, it was a great show show, given that we missed a week and the typical thing sticks out not even being a Knicks fan, but that was just wrong. I ain't got nothing else, man. We did the baseball NFL Rodgers so we're gonna do this thing again soon, cause it's getting down to the nitty gritty in the NBA playoffs and in NHL too. Man, this was fun absolutely alright.
Speaker 1:well, appreciate you guys for listening and joining. We'll catch you guys next week. Peace, peace.