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World Series Chaos, NFL Trade Deadline, CFB Playoffs and more w/ Chad in Cal
We trade predictions for proof as the Dodgers outlast Toronto in a World Series decided by inches and choices, then jump to an NFL deadline that revealed who understands their window and who doesn’t. College rankings, QB hype, NBA pacing, and way-too-early hoops picks round out a fast, opinionated ride.
• how Toronto’s substitutions and baserunning swung the World Series
• the Dodgers’ depth and key defensive plays at the plate
• whether this ranks among the greatest World Series
• Padres and Red Sox roster needs and spending urgency
• NFL trade deadline winners, misses, and long-term fits
• shock results and why real contenders win the “shoulds”
• Jayden Daniels’ injury and late-game coaching risk
• early CFP rankings, Texas volatility, Big Ten power
• Florida State’s slide and coaching futures in the portal era
• college hoops Final Four leans and impact bigs
• why early NBA form is noise and who actually matters
• East and West teams with depth and staying power
And welcome everybody to another episode of Real Talk. Doc, you doing all right today?
SPEAKER_02:Yes, I am. Yes, ma'am. We got a special guest tonight, very knowledgeable. Do the intro, brother. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:So uh he he has he's uh he's been on the show plenty of times. He's a fan of about uh it's very spread out. So he's he's Red Sox, he's uh Lakers at heart, uh he's Nuggets, um has love for the Chargers, uh Red Sox. Avalanche, I think, too as well. So Chad joins us. What's up, man? How you doing?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, ain't no damn Lakers fucking fan, I'm a Charger fan, bro.
SPEAKER_02:Oh man, I had to laugh inwardly at that one. Welcome aboard, Chad. Always a pleasure, fellas. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Real quick, before we get to the uh the we have a lot of stuff to do. Of course, we'll start with the baseball. Uh we'll get into uh the NFL week 10, I believe it is. We have some college uh playoffs to talk about, uh NBA, and of course everything, all the trades and everything that happened with the uh NFL. But I know there's some fires that are going on down there. Is that any close to you guys at all?
SPEAKER_02:I haven't seen a thing, bro. No, no, not that I haven't seen a thing. No, not at all.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, cool. Yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_02:So I know that's probably in the San Gabriel Mountains somewhere, probably, you know. Okay, Oaks area, maybe.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_02:But thanks for asking. No, I ain't seen nothing out our way.
SPEAKER_00:Perfect, perfect, cool. All right, uh, so let's go ahead and get it going, Chad. I'll go ahead and start with you. I know we had a crazy uh ending. Of course, we had that one game that went in the World Series that went to uh 18 innings, um, crazy game six and game seven. So, what were your thoughts overall? Uh went before this before the World Series started, throughout, and then the ending. What were your thoughts on on the World Series?
SPEAKER_01:So going into the World Series, I expected the Dodgers to completely dominate. Um to me, this is just a team that, and I don't mean this, you know, to throw any type of shade because you know it it's it's more of jealousy because me being a Red Sox fan and in a big market myself, not being able to spend the same type of money. The Dodgers bought themselves a premier team. You know, they basically have a minor league system in Japan now with the Otani connection. They're gonna get any big time Japanese player. Uh, you know, they took Freeman from Doc, they took Muki from me. And I mean they just loaded up. So to me, I thought if anyone had a chance to beat him, it would be Philly. They also are pretty stacked. I I I just thought Toronto wasn't gonna be close. And then obviously all of a sudden they were not only close, they were in a position to bury him. And what came in to this is crazy because a couple years ago we were saying this about Roberts. I think the inexperience from the GM, I mean the manager on the Blue Jays, uh, there was a couple games you that you mentioned the 18-inning game. He pulled his players and tried to make some adjustments, and I understand that you're trying to win that game, but the problem with that is when you go 18 innings, you're depleted. You got guys taking their bats in the 17th, 18th inning that should not be taking that bat in a World Series game, and that's gonna cost you. You do not want to get into a battle with the Dodgers and try to go bat for bat. You you gotta have Vladdy in there, you gotta have Bachet in there, you gotta have Springer in there. These guys have to be in the lineup. And when you pull these guys because you think you're making a defensive adjustment or you're making a pinch running adjustment, and it and you don't win in that inning that you make that adjustment, you set yourself up for failure. So I think the inexperience there, and then just I cannot remember the last time I seen so much bad base running. I mean, it's funny because game seven was almost decided, you know, obviously by a play at the plate by an inch. But game, I think it was six. I mean, they they were doing shit that my you know six and seven-year-old kids do when I coach. They just overrunning bases, blowing through stop signs, trying to get from first to third on a major league baseball player's arm. It's just it's unexcusable, and and I think it cost them a championship.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's a good point. Like Chad, Marlon, I didn't know what to expect from Toronto. It's not like we really paid attention. They had a grueling series uh with the big dumper in the Seattle, Maryland, Matt Manis with Naylor and uh uh Julio Rodriguez. So you figure, you know, uh that would have been uh grueling series that Toronto might have came in uh all tired. But but Chad, to your point, you know, they they they the Toronto came in balling, man. And it's one of those things where I gotta disagree with you, even though they lost the 18-inning game, they beat the last two games in LA. They beat the Dodgers last two times in LA to go up 3-2. So I'm I'm I see what you're saying relative to the manager, but by the same token, going back to Toronto 3-2, there's no excuse to lose the World Series, dog. And that 18-inning manager, and for the record, that's the best World Series, Marlon and Chad, that I've ever seen. And I've been following baseball since 78, man, you know, and it's one of those things where, you know, you go back to the crib through 3-2, you can't lose that. You can't lose the series. Uh, if you remember Chad and Marlon, uh, you know, it's one of those things where uh Klein for the Dodgers, and I never heard of the cat, you know, and he pitched some meaningful innings and to Chad's point. Seattle, I mean uh Toronto to that point blew out their uh roster trying to compete and trying to look smart. But you gotta give Dave Roberts credit, man. You know, and it's one of those things, he put the right pieces at the right time. There's so many variables and so many great moments on both sides, you know. Guerrero, Springer. Springer was hurt and he came back balling, you know, getting key hits, home runs and all that. But he if there's one player that I feel sorry for, it's it's Guerrero, man. He put it out there. And I thought Toronto in game seven when Guerrero hit that double, Chad, they were gonna pull it out, man. But to their credit, you know, LA LA pulled it out. I know you want to mention some key moments, especially the catches and throw to the plates, Chad, but go ahead. I don't want to ramp up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, I I get it, and I don't know. I I'm not a big Dave Roberts guy. I will give them a little bit of credit, but at the same time, I mean, is it really hard to manage this roster? I mean, it's pretty much, you know, put in play and let them do their thing. But Doc, you said one thing that was that kind of caught my attention. You said this was the greatest World Series, and I respect not only your knowledge of baseball, but all sports. And you go way back, man. I mean, you you know, you're older than me and Marlon, and you've seen a lot of great World Series. I don't know if I'm putting this one. So I was thinking about this actually, and I'm a Red Sox fan, so you would think, okay, I'm gonna say 2004, right? When we broke the curse. But it wasn't, we swept them. Like it the ALCS was the big series in that championship run against the Yankees, you know, coming down 3-0 and winning four in a row. Once we saw the World Series, we swept them. And then we beat Colorado. We beat Colorado, we beat the Cardinals, like we we haven't really had it, we beat the Dodgers, we haven't really had a competitive every time we get to the World Series, we kind of make, I think what, the we went four to against one of those teams, we beat the Dodgers four to one. Like, so to me, the best World Series I've seen, and it's kind of down the Red Sox, historical, you know, curse breaking, the Cubs and the Guardians, or the Indians, whatever they were at the time. Do you remember that game seven when the Indians, Raja Davis, hits that home run, and it looks like Cleveland's on their way to a World Series championship, and it starts pouring rain, and they bring the tarp out, and then they pull that tarp off, man, and the Cubs just have some magic in them, and the Cubs break their curse, and the Cubs win the championship. To me, that's the greatest World Series I have seen. The greatest game seven I've seen, just the drama, and obviously the curse breaking. That was a hell of a World Series.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's a good point on that. I remember this distinctly though that was Jake Arrieta. He was sick, like a 0.086 DRA down the stretch. And Marlon, uh, Chad makes a good point when that particular World Series, man. I should pull it for Cleveland. But the 91 World Series, Chad, between the Braves and the Twins, Kirby Puckett, you know, and and then of course, you know, uh in '84, Detroit, San Diego, with Jack Morris going against Steve Gary and those cats, Winfield. So yeah, I see your point there. But this one here, based on the extra innings that Chad and Marlin, the detention, the guys that you didn't expect, like uh Rojas sending bombs and then throwing. This guy was off balance, Marlon. And he threw the guy out the plate. Now, credit to Will Smith for having the wherewithal to know that his foot wasn't on the base on a consistent base, and then he tapped it again inches, million inches, Chad. You know the game. I just think that the extra innings and and and this, that, and the other distress, going back and forth. That's why I made that moniker, if you will, relative to the uh greatest of all time, you know. And then the Cash by Paez running over uh Kiki Hernandez. If that ball drops, you know, that that's it for the Dodgers. And uh, Chad, you know the game distinctly, man, and so do you, Marley. And when you see a ball get hit at the base of the outfield wall and not moving, you know, and the guy gets stuck at second because that ball didn't move, that that's that's God given. You know, had it go any inch further, that would that would have been the game, you know. But a ground route double when the ball gets stuck at the end of a butt, something like that, Chad. That that's that's otherworldly. That's my point. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there was a lot of drama for sure. I I'm with you on that. There was a lot of drama in the series, and I think like I said, i a part of it was the Blue Jays are a team that we've talked about for for years, is this team that's gonna make this run. And they never do, and they finally did. And I mean, if obviously, you know, you want to root for the American team. I I'm not a big Dodger guy, but I'm a Red Sox fan, so I don't like the Blue Jays either, so I'm in a tough spot for that. I just wanted a good series and we got it. So I I think I mean, if you're a baseball fan, I think a lot of people tuned in, maybe I think this might have made more baseball fans. I it I think it had to have. If you're a casual sports fan and you watch this game, you gotta walk away wanting more baseball in your life.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and Mona, before we move on, man, it's one of those things where Yoshinobo Yamamoto and Blake Snail, you know, and and and uh the other cat, Glas now. Those cats wanted the rock. They wanted the ball. You don't see that in today's baseball pitching. Yamamoto could have pitched two straight games and felt nothing of it. A little jab. And he reminds me of Greg Maddox, chat. He doesn't overpower you with the fastball. He's short and stocky a little bit, just like Maddox. He's just a pitcher. You don't have to be 6'5 and 2'4. I think Smoke said that relative to that. But his pitching is a pitcher. That's the definition of a pitcher. But props to Blake Snell, who blew got blown up in the early in the series and come back in the relief mode and and uh uh last now and all that. So yeah, yeah. What do the Padres have to do, Mar? And I'm gonna put you on the spot to compete with the Dodgers next year in that division. And Chad, you can respond to your res your your red socks after that for the relative to the run on AL. Go ahead, fellas.
SPEAKER_00:Go ahead, Chad.
SPEAKER_01:To be honest, we gotta spend money. We're boxing, man. We're not Pittsburgh. Like, uh it it just baffles me. It blows my mind that a team like the Red Sox, who have so much just notoriety across the country, and yeah, I mean, it's just such a big time team. And you think baseball, if I if I ask someone, start naming baseball teams, you're gonna say Yankees, you're gonna say Dodgers, you're not gonna get much further before you say Red Sox. And we continue to run the operations like we're penny pinching. I just don't get it. Like you have to spend money. We we signed Bregman last year, but we didn't go on Alonzo. We needed a first baseman. Vlad was up for for grabs, we didn't try to make a deal for him. He just led a Tino World Series. Alonzo's back on the market. Kyle Tucker's gonna be on the market. We have to walk away. Scoobyl might be on the market. I know we got crochet. If we can add a guy like Scooba, if we can add a guy like Alonzo or Tucker, if we can get two of those guys, and we have every, I mean, why wouldn't we? We have them all the money in the world. Go get those two of those three guys and show America that you're serious about competing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the American lease is going to be brutal, Chad. You're up, Marlon. You know, uh Chad mission, Tucker. You already got Machado and Tatisa's hitters. What do you need, man? Pitching? Uh do you add another hitter? Your call. What's your manager's take and management? I'm saying it was a beautiful city. You're up, Marlon. What you need?
SPEAKER_00:It's beautiful, man. We got the gas lamp down there, uh, all the beaches and everything. It's great. But uh, yeah, we we need everything, Doc. You know, we need from pitching. Doesn't help with the Udarvish news that just came out. So he's out for the year. So uh yeah, Doc. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah. So it's it's it's we're we're not starting off uh great, if you will, but uh yeah, we we gotta we need a little bit of everything. We need pitching, we need help in the bullpen, we need it all, man. So um yeah, yeah. What do you think, dude?
SPEAKER_02:Well, he was up 2-1 two years ago on the Dodgers. I think you still could compete in the West. The Giants, I don't know what they're gonna have coming back and Arizona, but the divisions, you guys beat each other up. Well, and I just think that I'm pulling for you, man. You know, the Padres. You know, anytime you have a young Tati, and Chad, you'll agree, just baseball, just being a pure fan. You mentioned Acunya on my brakes. These guys gotta stay healthy. Machado, you gotta come up in a big spot. The National East, giving the Dodgers dominance, is gonna be a bitch. I just thought I'd ask you, brother, good luck, man. I didn't know about you, Dodge. I really didn't.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that was the breaking, that was the breaking news of the day, man. So yeah, but we'll we'll get it figured out. Good job, Marlon. That's a good job by you. You know, hey, I'm I'm I break down everything, man. Uh that's what I do. So, all right, on to the uh NFL, man. Crazy, crazy, crazy uh trade deadline. Um, Chad, I'll start with you on this one. So we heard the news, of course, of uh Sauce Gardner. We saw what the the Cowboys did. I don't know if they probably should have done that, made the trade for Williams. Uh, we've seen a couple other small things. So, what were your thoughts on the trade uh deadline? Who won? What trade stuck out that you liked, that you didn't like, and all that.
SPEAKER_01:So I I like the so let's let's start with Sauce. Sauce is is good, man. He is he Sertan? No, he's not. Like let's let's be 100% clear on that. He's not a Patrick Sertan. He's really good though, and the Colts, I I like it because it shows, and and Urse's, I believe it's his daughter that's running the team right now. It shows that she's serious, and she's been really present. She's been on the sidelines, she's getting around the players, she's starting to kind of fill out the locker room, and I think it's great that the Colts are competing. I mean, you look right now at the top of the NFL standings and you see the Patriots, the Colts, and the Broncos. I mean, it just takes you back to 2000, you know, mid-2000s, with with obviously Manning and Brady, and then Jake Plumber trying to put his way in there. Like, all we're missing is the Steelers, you know what I mean? So I think the Colts did a good job. Now, the one yeah, but on that is you still have Daniel Jones a quarterback, and I know he's been good, man. He's been really good. They beat us in obviously technicality, the the stupid you know, flag, but you're still putting all your A's in Daniel Jones' basket, and you gave up a lot. If I'm a Jets, I mean, why not? You're the team is an absolute mess. Glenn might be one and done. This might be a Nathaniel Hackett situation. This might be, you know, we've seen this before with teams where they get a coach and it just doesn't work out. You're gonna have four or five first-round picks in the next two years. Go ahead and do your thing. And and so to me, I think it's win-win for both teams. And then you mentioned they trade Quinn Williams as well to the Cowboys. Is Jerry Jones so a couple years ago we heard Jerry Jones say that running back's not important, basically, is what he said. Not word for word, but it's basically what he said. And he didn't go after Derrick Henry. And you know, maybe he's living in the past, maybe he thinks that you can just do it old school in the trenches, and the Cowboys have always had a good offensive line, and now they both are up the defensive line. Is is Quentin Williams a pass rusher like Michael Parsons? No. But if you put Quentin Williams and Kenny Clark next to each other in that defense, and you start next season, that's a pretty good run stopping defense right there. You just gotta find yourself an edge now. So, I mean, is it a move that's gonna turn the Cowboys season around? No. Is it something that can help them for the next three or four years? I think so. So I think the Cowboys, again, I mean, why not make the move? It's something where it's gonna help you going forward. He's still young. He he he's a stud player. So I liked it. I I I wish I would have seen Denver. I heard Denver was in on Jalen Waddle. I heard the price was too high. I don't know what Miami's doing. They should have had a fire sale. Um, sometimes you look in the mirror and think you look like Brad Pitt and you don't. And I think Miami thinks that they look like a contender and and they're just not. And I was hoping once I heard the Jets were selling, maybe Garrett Wilson's available, maybe Brees Hall is available. I know Marlon Brees Hall would have been a great fit with the Chargers. Garrett Wilson would have been a great fit on the Broncos. Those are two moves that could have really shook up the AFC. So overall, like I said, I think the Jets are smart by kind of clearing house and getting ready to rebuild. And if you're the Colts, I get going for it. But like I said, no matter how many soft gardeners you get, you still have Daniel Jones. Is he gonna be able to go into Buffalo, into Arrowhead, even in the mile high, maybe, and make a play in December and January? I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I agree with uh Chad on that synopsis, Marl. And I love what Dallas did. Their defense is wretched. It's ridiculous, man. And, you know, uh, they drafted Booker in a draft out of Alabama, the guard, right guard, but they need a defense. They let Parsons go when we still questioning that move. But Quinn Williams to Chad's point is only 28. You know, he's on the north side of uh 30. And he, I remember he was a consensus All-American coming out of Alabama. He's played seven years. He's only 20 when he entered the league. So I like that. I also like Chad and Marlin, Jacoby Myers going to Sunshine down there in Jacksonville. I like that because Thomas is hurt, and I think Cunner is out. So it that makes the question, you know, uh uh what how they're gonna use Jacoby Meyer, who's very unhappy in Raiderland down in Vegas. So who isn't happy in Vegas? So um I like that move with Sunshine. There's no excuse now. You know, Jacoby Myers is the study. Just wasn't used at all under Pete Carroll. So yeah, I like the Dallas move. And as far as the Colts, uh, they played my Falcons of the week. I don't hope Sauce doesn't play, but I think he will. This is midseason. They got him for a reason to propel him over the top. Uh, I don't know what happened against Pittsburgh, who is struggling to score, but you know, it's one of those things where you got to get the management for the Colts. I think is Ursay's daughters, you know, and all that. And uh to Chad's point, you still got Daniel Jones. So, you know, let's hope that uh this weekend, at least in Berlin, the Thousands can't compete against the Colts, but Sauce is a two-time all-pro. He's only in his third or fourth year, I forget. As far as uh your respective team, Chad, I was pulling for you to get somebody to help out Sutton and uh Marlon. I don't know what you need down there in San Diego. I thought you might have made a trade for an O-lineman or something.
SPEAKER_00:We did, we did. We got somebody from uh the Saints. I think he's kind of like a guard tackle uh combo guard, which we obviously need the help with Joe Alt being out now. Uh of course, um uh Slater's been out the whole year, so our O-line has just been trashed for the most part. But if this is one time for Herbert to finally get everybody off of his back and say, hey, he can never do it, he can never do it, I'm not saying that we're gonna win the Super Bowl this year, but if we can at least have a decent second half of the season, continue, we're gonna get some guys back. Hampton should be coming back in about maybe two weeks uh after the bye, I think, in week twelve. Uh our receivers are pretty good. Gaston is a breakout star. Um so uh from the offensive standpoint, if if Herbert can we can find a way to just run certain plays to get him get the ball out as fast as he can, and he ha Herbert has to move. He's one of the mobile, one of the most mobile quarterbacks in the league. He's not a Lamar Jackson, but he's also not a like uh I don't know, Mac Jones or whoever. So he can he can run, he can move, and when he does that, it opens up the play action. So hopefully it's it's it's it's tough when we did make that move, but yeah, we we as a I I still uh still get a little choked up, man. It's it's tough with these these old linemen, man. You pay these guys first round picks, they're out, and but we gotta we gotta figure it out. And we got third, fourth stringers that we're dealing with. But uh the AFC West is tough. Broncos they should only have one loss, really. Um but and then the Chiefs are the Chiefs, so we we just gotta try to stay afloat and try to make playoffs.
SPEAKER_02:Well, Slater losing Slater was bad enough, but we lose big Joe Allen, and I'm a Joe Owl fan. I fan. It reminds me of Jim Lachey of the Redskins back in the day, big big tackle. Uh that that's devastating. So you did address that. But uh before you move on, Marlon, we gotta give some respect for the shocking meltdowns relative to Dallas Cowboys losing at the crib, you know, Green Bay Packers. I don't know what that was in Lambeau losing to Carolina. And then, you know, um Detroit. Everybody likes Detroit, and then thing like you know, Minnesota, JJ McCarthy, really? Yeah, you gotta weigh on to what transpired with some of these shocking meltdowns. And I'll talk about my Falcons and the Mobile Grant, but go ahead, man. I just mentioned three. I know that caught your eye. Three of them, you know? Stunning.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, the the Packers, I predicted them to go to the Super Bowl. I I don't get some of these teams, man. I mean, you see this on the NFL, week nine, week ten, some of these teams just kind of hit a roll bump and and they kind of you know slow down for a little bit and then they get hot again. So I will say, as long as you can keep yourself in contention, it's all about being hot at the right time. But like, I mean, Minnesota, Detroit, that's that's a that's a rivalry game, y'all. And that's that's bad blood, you know, that's that's you see each other twice a year. But like Green Bay at the crib against Carolina, that can't happen. And yeah, you know, the Falcons, I guess the Patriots are for real. I take the Falcons. I guess the Patriots are legit. You guys try to make a late comeback. Um the it's just, you know, certain teams, like you look at the Rams, for example. They play the Saints, right? They handle business. You know, a Sean Bay team is gonna handle business. They're gonna they're gonna take care of who they need to take care of. And Kansas City's gonna take care of them. Both like these teams take care of business. And then like the Steelers, that's another one where that's what that's what got me leaning on this whole South Garda thing is the Steelers kind of handled the Colts pretty well. And maybe the Steelers are that good. I did take them to win their division, but the Colts they didn't look too good. And it's only one week, and you know, another game that wasn't really an upset, but Baltimore, Baltimore is quietly hanging around with Lamar coming back. I think they're really easy on the run.
SPEAKER_02:That's a good point. Marlon, with your respect, dude. I think the Ravens have a good chance with their people to uh run the table. But you mentioned my Falcons. A second time of him, you know, Raheem Murray. Oh my god, man, the kicker. You picked that kicker, fool. And he misses a point out. Who misses who does that? Miss the point out, and Drake Lennon had three TD pads. I mean, catch it, gentlemen. And he's one of the most underrated performers in the league, you know, three, you know, and it's one of those things where you're you're almost a given to make the extra point on the road. And I think we, if we went overtime, we would have beat New England. But it continues and it dismayed. All Falcon fans are pissed off. And yeah, I'm going into my reign. I'm sick of Raheem Mars of Jerry Fondo. You know, we gave up a number one pick to get uh uh James Pierce Jr. And he doesn't even have a sack yet. You know, I expected to win the division. Here we are at three and six, or whatever it is. And uh Raheem Mars still has a job. He picked that kicker. We got rid of Koo's ass, young way cool, and we got another candidate. Extra point. You know, I'm our ex-offensive line. I think I could kick an extra point as hard as that team played in New England, you know, and it's one of those things where this can't happen, man. I'm just sick and tired of the Falcons. You know, we're gonna get blown out by the Colts. You want to compete as a fan, but I just don't see it under this regime, man. You know, fucking old Abrahim Mars. So there you go, right there, fellas. My rant on the Falcons, you know. Uh go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:All right, we gotta get Doc in the uh in the Pat McAfee kicking contest. Yeah, yeah, that's right. College game days. That's right, brother.
SPEAKER_00:I would go, I would I would play to see that. Um we we did see the the uh Seattle and and by the way, Seattle Chad, you were talking about teams that we kind of don't know what they are if they're for buying into them. Seattle's a team too as well that you know they they're they they're rolling. And so especially with that offense, the defense is good. Not not to say they're like the Legion of Boom defense, but they're still for the most part pretty decent. Green Bay is a team too that I everybody crowned them so early, and they two of their losses were two of the worst teams in the league. So you don't know what you're gonna get with the Green Bay team. So I I don't know, it's a it's a weird team as far as the most consistent teams. You would say the Chiefs that are on there, but you know, but I mean they always lose to the Bills in the regular season and then they they beat the Bills in the playoffs, but um it's it's consistency, man. And and when you look at teams like Indy and you look at Green Bay and Kansas City, there there's just there's a lot of inconsistency. But looking at with Washington, uh Chad, if you if you were to coach, would you have Jayton in that late, or should he have been out start of the fourth quarter? Wow, wow.
SPEAKER_01:One quick point before I get to that, and and you nailed it. When you're the Colts, when you're the Broncos, when you're the Packers, you gotta win and win a lot because you want to host a home game in the playoffs. When you're the Chiefs and you got Mahomes and Andy Reid, they don't care where they go, man. They'll go to Buffalo, they'll go to Denver, they'll go to Indy. You think you put Mahomes and Andy Reid on the sideline in Indy at Indianapolis, week, you know, first week of the playoffs, who has more pressure? I guarantee you it's that home team with Daniel Jones sitting over there. So if you're the Chiefs, man, you're kind of just trying to get in. But that Jay Daniels, that that is ridiculous, bro. Like, it is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, I are you thinking he's gonna get hurt? No, but uh, if you know that you're not gonna win the football game, and I get it, he's bouncing back from an injury, so maybe you're trying to get him some reps. But to me, if he's bouncing back from an injury, he should definitely be out of there, bro. Like, you don't want to reaggravate the injury that he had, and then this boy's arms and went three different directions and snapped over. Man, that was it was tough to watch, and you feel for the kid, the local kid out here in the inland empire, Cajon High School. But man, I don't know what the coach is doing, bro. Like, you cannot let that happen. And maybe that stadium is cursed, man. If you go back, I mean, especially on that side of the field, it's it's all obviously just a coincidence, but there has been so many injuries right there in that 30 to 40 yard, you know, area on that field. It's it's it's crazy. It's like some voodoo or some Dan Snyder curse.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And that's and and and uh Marlon, I agree, Chad, because RG Griffin got hurt almost in the same type of situation under the older Shanahan, same organization. This is your franchise player for the divid uh for the uh for the franchise, uh Marlon. And I have experience with Dan Quinn, unfortunately, making phone-headed moves and phone-headed decisions. And to his credit, he owned it. He said he shouldn't have been in there and he missed it. That's his words. But it it it this is a Washington franchise. The kid was a rookie of the year, Marlon and Chad, and now you make a phone-headed decision that costs the team, and who knows how he's gonna record for his career. He is a young man, but thank God it wasn't a storing arm. But Dane Quinn, man, he he to me, he's garbage. You know, you know you weren't gonna win the game, and you have him out there uh like that. So yeah, it's ridiculous. These young cats getting hurt, man, out for the season, you know. But uh go ahead, Monique. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00:Yep, absolutely, absolutely. So okay, so alright, so we got a couple more topics to get into. Uh some college football. I believe the rankings, um, or was it the rankings that just came out just now, or like the little bubble comedian?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the playoffs, the first playoff ranking, yeah. CF CFC, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Gotcha, gotcha. Okay, so alright. So right now we have uh Ohio State at one, Indian at two, uh the Aggies at three, Bem at four, your Georgia Bulldogs at five, uh Omet six, BYU seven, eight, Texas Tech, uh nine, Oregon, Notre Dame, Virginia, and Memphis. So looking at it right now, obviously this is a lot of movement could happen, but uh as you see this and you break this down, Chad, what who do you like? Who's gonna probably make it and who's gonna sneak in and all that?
SPEAKER_01:So I think BYU and Texas Tech plays this weekend. So there's gonna be a someone's gonna get knocked out there. Um I think Ole Miss, man, I think Lynn Kippen, he just he always gets to that the finish line and then he crits. And I think what better way to to really kick off or finish this season with O Miss flipping out in Texas. If Texas finds a way to get into this playoff after everything we've they've been through, after All the criticism. First, we had the hype. The hype train was ridiculous. I've never seen hype like this in college football. Like, never. You know, Tim Picco made the hype. Cam Newton made the hype. I've never seen Andrew Luck made the hype. Like, I've never been like, okay, this kid's gonna start game one, and he is the greatest football player we've ever seen. Like, I don't remember seeing that until after I watched him play a couple times. So we went through all the hype on Manning. They fucking crashed so hard and struggled, and he struggled. If he can find a way to not only get in this playoff, but once he's in, make a run, that is going to be absolutely insane for the sport. I think Texas can sneak in, and I think BYU will lose the Texas Tech and Fallout. So I think that's two spots left. Texas gets one of them. I don't know who slides in on the second one. You never you never know who can come out of left field at the end.
SPEAKER_02:Well, uh, Chad, I kind of got to beg the different which because Texas already has two losses and they got a trip to Athens, Georgia next week. And I don't think Skirvy Smart's gonna let another big game lose at home. He already lost to Alabama. But uh, yeah, it goes noted. That hike train was big, man. Watch Manning. I had him winning the Heisman Trophy. That's how uh sick I was with him, Marlin. But uh, you know, let's let's see what Texas AM and Texas do. AM has a couple of conference games in the SEC left. I love uh Josh Reed and uh, you know, uh Alabama, that kid, the quarterback down there, he could probably win the ISM. But remember, they got to play at Harvard, and I think they got to play LSU, even though it's in Tuscaloosa. That's never big, that's never easy. And barren, the SEC, you know, obviously I'm pulling for one of them to lose for Georgia's sake. We got Mississippi State on the road in Starkville. That's kind of tricky. But, you know, it goes in order, man. Ohio State and Indiana in the Big Ten, gentlemen. Not the SEC. The Big Ten is kind of a thing. You know, it is a thing. You know, you know about Jeremiah Smith, Chad, the receiver that should be in the league, but this kid Tate ain't no joke. And saying, the quarterback up there in Ohio State, and they got a defense, they might run the table again, man. But Indiana with Sonata, I I I think um that's a sneaky thing there, too. I don't know the remainder of the schedule, Molly and it, Chad, but the Big Ten rules the rules right now. Because SEC gonna beat each other up. Your take.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point for sure. And like you said, Texas and Georgia next week. But if Texas wins that game, I mean, yeah, they're sitting pretty. And I don't think they will, but like I said, that's that's a team that if they can come back and complete this kind of journey, I mean, it it would be big. And I think the college football playoff, they're gonna want Arch Bain in this playoff. I'm telling you that right now.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Texas, this Sarkeese is a big school, big football school, Marlene. Weisner, it reminds some people of BJ Robinson when he was at UT. Uh, you know, they got the big boys and Colin Simmons, the outside linebacker, and they got another kid on the defensive side. But I think Gunnar Stockton in that matchup is gonna do all right. Let's get by Mississippi State first, and let's let Alabama get by LSU. And uh, yeah, by the way, Nussmeyer, LSU has been a disgrace. They got the speed at receiver and the running back and defense, but Kelly misused his talent, man, down there at LSU. They had, if you remember, Chad, before the season, it was K Club, they got Clemson and Nussmeyer as far as the top two quarterbacks in the upcoming NFL draft. Nussmeyer has been garbage, man. Uh, you gotta go all the way to Oregon. Duncan K. Moore, I think his name, Oregon, and the this quarterback draft class because of the underperforming is garbage. I don't even think Arch coming out, but that's neither here nor there. I digress. Go ahead, Marlon.
SPEAKER_01:Doc I had to do. Yeah, go ahead. I had I had Drew Aller winning the Heisman, man. I had the playoffs, and Drew Aller went in the Heisman, man. Drew Aller's booty teeks, Club Nitt is booty cheeks, Ness Myers, booty, like these dudes, man. This was supposed to be better than last year. It was supposed to be wait till this year to get the quarterback.
SPEAKER_02:And who these dudes have these dudes have not produced Yeah, not at all. Uh the committee, Notre Dame gentlemen, they got two losses, but there's still Notre Dame. If they run the table, uh, they might still get in. I don't know who they got left, but uh it goes, I think they got UFC. I think I haven't looked at Notre Dame schedule, but I'm pulling for Marcus Freeman, man, who's a candidate for one of these jobs, maybe LSU. I don't know. But I love the running back. He's nice. Love. Jeremiah love, chat.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's gonna be a good pro. But I mean, you're talking about quarterbacks, and and I mean, like you said, we had Club Nick, Nessmeyer, Aller, Arch, Manning, these dudes were supposed to be fighting for a Heisman. You look now, and the three quarterbacks we're looking at is Saiyan, who had no experience coming in this year, and he got a lot of talent around him. You got Mendoza, who people forgot was at Cal making plays for our buddy Raider S and his Cal Bears. And then 60. I love I love the way he he manipulates this new college football world where he's like, I'm just gonna get fish and sixth-year players. I'm not even I'm gonna treat college football like free agency. You can go recruit these players, you can develop these high school kids. Once they get about junior, senior year, I'm gonna call him up, I'm gonna bring him to Indiana, and we're gonna just run up the score with a bunch of you know 21-year-olds. I like what he's doing. Mendoza's gonna be the first pick in the draft, which is absolutely crazy. A year ago, he probably was projected to be undrafted, and now he's gonna be the number one pick. And even the kid Reed, I don't know if he's eligible to come out this year, but the kid down at Texas AM, Marcel Reed. That kid is nasty, man. He's a game. Oh, he's a pro.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know if he's a pro. He was a freshman last year, racial freshman, I think, for the solid. So three years out of the league, but I don't think he's ready to make that jump like that, Marlon and Chad. But the Oregon thing, to answer your question, Marlon, relative to Smike to sneak in. The Kudante Moore, man, he's the real deal. They got speed and Dane Lanning's crew. I know they lost to Ohio State early, but don't discount Oregon with this kid Moore can do at Oregon. They got Giants, the Moore kids on the line, defense and offense. And uh and and out there in Austin Stadium. So that that would be my uh surprise pick, if you will, to go deep in the postseason. Go ahead, Molly. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Before we get over to uh some college basketball chat, I got a question for you. Uh this uh tweet, I believe you tweeted this probably about two months ago. Uh it was FSU is back. Um right now you guys are sitting in four and four. Right now you guys are sitting in a whopping uh four and four. So um yeah, how you feeling about your uh your your Seminoles?
SPEAKER_01:Man, we were so back for one game. I mean, yeah. It's crazy. College sports are crazy, man. Like the emotional roller coasters that you get on. I thought Alabama was gonna wipe the floor with us, bro. And we came out and looked disciplined, we looked sharp, we look motivated, and we look talented. And we we won all across the board. We won on offense, we went on defense, we won in the trenches, we won outside. Like, we absolutely dominated Alabama, and I'm like, man, this Cassianos kid brings experience. I know his arm is questionable, but he can use his legs. You know, we got a big receiver on the outside who just is dominating out a USC came over to help us out. We got speed in the backfield. I mean, this team is legit. The defense is actually tackling. We got a new defensive coordinator from Nebraska. Like, oh, we've hit the corner, we turned the corner, and then let down right away. And then, okay, you know what? A little hiccup. Let's get it back. Let down again. And it's like, bro, it's it's just it's just a roller coaster ride, and we're not back. We are not back. Mike Norvell is garbage and needs to go. And it sucks because the players play their ass off for him this weekend. They're all coming out saying they stand by coach, and I respect that, but I can't do it anymore. And I don't want Dion. Dion ain't doing shit in Colorado. He's just the same, man. I want Lane Kippen, bro. If I'm gonna make a move and I'm gonna spend all this money on a buyout, or bring Jimbo back. Jimbo, I think we're still paying him. We're texting him for sure is paying him. Bring Jimbo back. But for real, give me Lane Kippin, man. Lane Kipp, I think Lane Kippen is gonna take one of these. And not Lane Kiffin, Lane Kippen, John Gruden, give me Kippen or Gruden.
SPEAKER_02:I want someone like Wow, that that's a name from the past, John Gruden. I think I I identify him with a pro coach like most people, but college, they get yeah, they get back into the thing because he missed coaching. That's a good thing. He might go to the U.
SPEAKER_01:He might go to the U. He might really end up in Miami, which will piss me off because he's gonna have success wherever he goes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and that's another topic for another day. What the hell happened to the U on the cost him back? But but but Marley, real quick, Chad brings up a good point relative to the I think Chad, the Virginia thing, the Friday night, the overtime thing killed you, you know, uh in and and the Charlottesville. I watched that game, and it just seems like it was Virginia's night. Ever since that game on that Friday night, man, Dollsworth overtime. Yeah, that that killed your spirit right there.
SPEAKER_01:We lost to Stanford, Doc, at Stanford. Yeah, there were 35 people there, Doc. Yeah, 35 people there. 34 of them were wearing. 34 of them were wearing seven-o jerseys. If I would have done up there and lost, bro, you'd have seen me on ESP and getting arrested, bro. I'd have lost. If I'd have wasted my time driving up there, luckily I was busy, bro. Because I strongly consider it, because I've never seen last time I seen Florida State play in person was the Rose Bowl against Oregon, Jameis versus Mariota. So I thought, you know what? Yeah, let's drive up to Stanford. I'll take the kids. We'll watch a little ass whooping. Man, I fool that'd have been a long ride home. Kids wouldn't have been able to say nothing. Don't say a word. Yeah. That's right.
SPEAKER_02:Right up the one-on-one, right up to one-on-one, Marlon. You can take the five and go over, but it's that campus is beautiful, the farm off the one-on-one. Yeah, you would have been pissed off, man, uh relative to that. But uh, yeah, man, these coaching decisions, Florida got rid of your boy, and it didn't, and they gave Georgia fits. But this is big-time coaches, man, the NIL and the transfer portal, uh, Marlon, that they want to win now, you know. And in Florida's case, they've been floundering around with all that five-star talent. They've been getting recruits. Uh, South Carolina, they better watch their guy, you know, because yeah, they're not winning despite uh the quarterback who's a superstar. But, you know, these coaches in the SEC and then they don't mess around, man. You know, you gotta win now. We all saw Kelly gone and uh the uh Penn State guy gone. So it goes no relative to Mike Norvell. Chad, I'm pulling for you. Make the change. Sure. Go ahead, Marlene.
SPEAKER_00:Yep, yep, absolutely. Okay, all right. So um college basketball, I believe, did tip off uh this week, I believe. So uh Doc, I'll go ahead and start with you. You're you're you're way, way, way too early. Um final four predictions. Uh who do you got for final four predictions for men's basketball?
SPEAKER_02:Well, you gotta put Duke in there. You gotta put Duke in there and not ACC. Um, you know, I like what St. John's on the Patino did last year. I don't know what they got coming back, but you know Gonzaga's gonna be in the mix up there in the WCC because Mark Few is a great coach, man. And then, you know, um gosh, you put me on the spot, man. I want to say somebody like uh Kansas, you know, somebody like that, way, way too early. But so much uh Duke is a definite, you know, because I love the coach down there. Florida's not gonna Florida lost everybody. So there you go right there, uh Marlon. You'll call on that chat. You see the thing.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna put Duke in there. Duke always has the top rated class. They got the boozer boys. Um, I'm putting Houston. I love the way Houston plays. They got some returners. Uh I like the way that Sampson has been playing down there. They're gonna always Houston's a team, and I mentioned when the NFL, when Houston plays the team they're supposed to beat, they beat them by 50 every time. Their defense is sufficient, they run the score up. He doesn't pull them early. He likes to run those games up and win those games by 30 and 40. So always take them. Uh, Michigan. I like Michigan a lot this year, man. I think they got experience. They got the seven foot. I mean, I seen this kid play at UCLA last year. Uh my cousin coaches at Idaho State. We went down to UCLA, Idaho State. After the game, I'm on the court waiting for my cousin. And and this kid from UCLA walked by me. He dude, this kid, this kid was seven foot seven, Doc. I swear he was, man.
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SPEAKER_01:Big old kid named Mara. And he's in Michigan now. I think he can really take over there and have an impact. And I like BYU. I think BYU, the kid, AJ the Dispensa, whatever his last name is, and I'm gonna recruit BYU. Shocked a lot of people. I watched him last night against Villanova. I can complain, man. I think BYU's gonna make a run. So give me BYU, Houston, Duke, and Michigan.
SPEAKER_02:Oh man, that's a great response. Marlon, for the record, I'm a lot older. I just miss the big E's, man. You know, Villanova, Pitt, you know, UConn, Georgetown, you know, all those cats. And Chad, you remember it vaguely, man. You know, the Reggie Williams, David Wingate, you know, Pit had Jerome Lane and Charles Smith, who played with the Knicks. You know, that's what I miss right there, relative to college football. Guys are one and done now. You know, Kentucky with Sam Bowie and Mel Durpin, you know, and those cats. That was back then. But that's a good question, Molly. I do my research with college basketball. But it hurts me being a fan like that. You know, Malik Seeley when he's at Seton Hall, you know, with uh St. John's, Luke Conner Second with Chris Mullen, Bill Winnington, you know, and Mark, Mark, Mark Jackson. Walter Berry, the left-handed chad, you play basketball. Walter Berry's a two-time biggest player of the year. So I miss those cats, man. And of course, the ACC with Jordan and Brad Daugherty and, you know, Lady Bias at Marilyn, you know, and those cats, you know, Georgia Tech with Marberry and John Sally. So yeah, God bless you, Marlon, bringing college basketball up, man. Just threw me for a loop. But those is those are things that Doc O Doc misses now. You know, the transfer portal, you know, uh NIL. You mentioned the guy at UCLA, he was in Michigan now. I don't even know who he was, Chad. So thank you on that. So good job, Marlon. Yeah, college basketball.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely. And on the pro basketball, Chad, I'll start with you on this one. It's a real simple question. Are you uh shock, surprised that the Lakers are doing as well as we're doing at six and uh six and two without LeBron, without you know, Luca a game or two, and without Reeves? What are your thoughts on how the Lakers are looking thus far?
SPEAKER_01:Wow. It doesn't matter. Like, I was I mean, we all like the NBA. We're all diehard sports fans, diehard basketball fans, bro. The season starts after Christmas. This shit don't matter, bro. Like, right. I mean, you look right now, the Bulls are five and one. I you know, just look around. The the Spurs are five and one. I know they got Wemby. Are they gonna speed number two when it's all sudden done? Like the Thunder for real. They got a bunch of young cats, they're 7-0. They're gonna have a good season because they're all young. They're playing that type of style. They they have 11, 12 guys in their rotation and they can run, run, run, run, run. But like, even the Lakers, LeBron, that's why LeBron's not playing. He knows broke. LeBron's chilling. He knows that business starts after Christmas. You play a couple games, you take a couple games off, you get to the playoffs, and then you do your work. The Clippers, Kawhi knows what's up. Like, all these teams know. And at the end of the day, the same teams are gonna be there ready to fight for it. You're gonna have, you know, you're gonna have your your Knicks, you're gonna have your Cavs, you're gonna have maybe a sleeper team like the Magic in the East. Maybe Giannis continues to be Superman. Maybe the Sixers finally found, you know, the rookie out of Baylor, VJ Edicom, uh, to go along with Maxie and Embiid. Maybe Embiid stays healthy, but you're gonna have Denver, you're gonna have the Thunder, you're gonna have the Rockets, you're gonna have the Timberwolves, you're gonna have the Clippers, you're gonna have the Warriors. Like, these teams are all gonna be right there when we talk in April, when we talk in May, and we're getting ready to start the playoffs. So to me, like college basketball is fun at the beginning of the year. You get a lot of blowouts, you try to stack your bankroll, you get to see these young kids you never heard of and learn for the first time. But the NBA, it's like, bro, I don't care what Kevin Durant's doing on October 31st or November 2nd, because he won't even give a drip. Like it's it's cruise control in the NBA. And Doc just mentioned it with college basketball with all those guys I've never heard of. It's it's it's how it is for the NBA now. That's how it is for the NBA, though. It's like I can't even enjoy the sport. Like Irison would have never done this shit. Kobe was never like this, you know. Like all these dudes were putting their all in the Dirk was out there every game, you know, KG was out there every game used to be 20 and 10. And you know Russ, like that's why I love Russ so much because Russ is like an old school player in a new generational body. He's gonna always be 110%. But like with the basketball that me and Marlon grew up on, and Doc, you were you know, you were in your 40s during that time. But you know, like KG, Pim Duncan, Kobe, Irison, like these dudes wasn't sitting down, man. Irison, he's out of practice, so he can play the game. Like, so it's a different era, and it just the season don't matter, bro. You can ask the most diehard fan, they're not tuned in right now.
SPEAKER_02:I can't, and then piggyback on that, Marlene, real quick. I can't imagine Ewing playing for another team, but the Knicks, Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley, all those cats, Starks. That's what basketball means. Do you think, Chad, that the NBA commissioner has a problem? He had he tried to make a tournament. I forget what the tournament's called to get these guys to play. Yeah, yeah, your take on that.
SPEAKER_01:But I think the chart, it's still it's to be honest, bro. They have to they have to shorten the season and spread out these these road trips. And it's sad they have to do that. But it's, I mean, it's a LeBron created. Everyone wants to blame Kawhi. And if you want to do your homework on it, LeBron's the one who started this shit, and we can go down the rabbit hole, down the loophole. You can do your information. I already know what I'm talking about. Kawhi was misdiagnosed with San Antonio. They told him he can come back, they told him he didn't have a certain injury, they told him it was just a hip. He came back and re-aggregated the injury that he thought he had, him and his uncle, and he had to shut it down. And since then, he's been injury prone. The Spurs literally costed us even a greater career for the dude. But LeBron's the one who started this shit. LeBron's the one who took a couple weeks off after the first of the year and went on his little sabbatical. But it's it's I don't see a resolution. I mean, you're gonna get teams like the Thunder. The Thunder, and they're in my division, I'm supposed to hate them. I enjoy it because, like I said, they got a bunch of 22-year-olds who just want to hoot, man. They just want to hoop.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Chad Holmgren is something. He's a skill set. You mentioned Wimby with the Spurs, man. I'm expecting big things. But the Nuggets, I just don't think Joker is gonna let another season go by without competing in the Western Conference final and possibly final. I love your team, especially with Murray. But it begs the question, Chad. What about the Dallas Mavericks down there where Marlon is with Kyrie gets back and Davis is already out? What about the rookie? Is he he's 18 years old? He hasn't really made an impact yet. You know, the rookie from Duke, man. Your take on Dallas real quick, Mavericks.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, I don't know Kyrie's situation. I don't know how long he's out. Clint is a shell of himself. I mean, they'll be playing material maybe by then, Cooper. Like, so that's different. When you're a rookie, you gotta get used to the speed of the game. It's different. It's a different game completely. Um, you gotta see how the refs are calling it. Like, there's a lot to get used to. There's dudes are stronger. Everyone, everyone can shoot, everyone can dribble, everyone can defend. You're getting bodied a little more. So it's it is a reality check for a rookie. So I I mean, is Cooper Flag? Was he gonna take the world by storm? I mean, there's only one LeBron, man. At the end of the day, yeah, no one's gonna come into the league and do what LeBron did except for LeBron. Like, he was just that gifted physically. And it actually had to do a lot with this. Cooper Flag, a good basketball player, he's really good. But he's not gifted. Like LeBron was LeBron could have played any sport he wanted to. I think LeBron could have been a Hall of Fame NFL player. And we don't say that about a lot of people, especially basketball players who have that mantra for being soft. So to me, the Mavericks would be cool, but they're they're gonna be sitting around eight or nine, ten, a play-in team, maybe win a couple games. But besides that, I mean they're not legit contenders. Like Denver, Denver, and I'm not being biased, we are a much better team than last year. Our depth has improved a lot. We got Bruce Brown back. We got Cam Johnson. We got Valent Tunis. We're ready. I think we're ready for sure.
SPEAKER_02:Well, Marlon, real quick, I love all this NBA talk, Jeremy. This is great stuff. The Knicks with um Coach Brown, man. See like I I blew up the Knicks for blowing out Dibotal. But this Brown has done it, and he's done it before with other stops, but he's utilizing his bench, and the Knicks are playing a uh they're after a strong start, man, you know, and and uh it doesn't, it hasn't affected uh Brunson's shots or his ability or anything like that. And I gotta give the credit to the new coach up there. This is New York, you know, and I thought that Tibbs that was a mistake, but it looks like the coach up there used to be with Sack, you know. But that's another, I think the Knicks, and you mentioned real quick about Philly. You know, I've always been a Joel MD fan, but he can't stay healthy. And Maxie is a I love Maxie. He brings it every night. So the east, Marlon, if you will, it's up for Gad. And don't forget about Detroit and Kate Cunningham. You know, so there you go, right there.
SPEAKER_00:Go ahead, Marlon. Absolutely. Okay, well shoot. That's all I got for you guys. You got anything else for us, Chad or um, or Doc?
SPEAKER_01:Nah man, I'm pleased to you guys having me until next time, fellas.
SPEAKER_00:All right, man.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, this is great, Panther. This is great going back. Yeah, good job. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming, Chad. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Of course. All right. Shoot, we'll catch you guys next time. Peace. Peace.