19. Fetch the Goodness: Grace for the Family That Doesn't Believe with Kellie Frazier (Part 2)

It's challenging to answer God's call to more when our family isn't on board, but that doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't do it.

In this episode of 'Courageous Retirement,' host Vona Johnson shares the inspiring journey of Kelly Frasier, who defied her family's skepticism to follow God's call. Fueled by faith and courage, Kelly overcame her fears and built a successful studio for her TV show Fetch the Goodness, which focuses on teaching children about God's identity and the fruits of the spirit. 

The discussion highlights the challenges of following one's spiritual path amidst doubt and disbelief from loved ones. Vona and Kelly emphasize the importance of grace, persistence, and accepting God's timing in fulfilling His purpose. They also discuss resources like 'Fetch the Goodness' and 'The Grace of Homeschooling' to support children and families in their spiritual education. 

00:00 Introduction: Embracing God's Unconventional Calls
00:22 Recap of Kelly Frasier's Journey
01:18 Facing Family Opposition
03:19 The Importance of Perseverance
06:09 Understanding the Prodigal Journey
10:18 Fetch the Goodness: Teaching Children About God
14:05 Final Thoughts and Upcoming Episodes

If you missed it, be sure to listen to Part 1: Redefining Courage Through Faith with Kellie Fraizer.

Scriptures referenced: Story of Noah and the Ark Genesis 6-8
Parable of the Prodigal Son Luke 15:11-32

Quotes by Kellie Fraizer: 
 "If we keep pointing to us, we're never going to be able to be pointing to him." 

" He (her husband) has his own walk in his own journey, just like everybody else does. And I have to respect that." 

" My battle was not with my children. It was with the enemy that was trying to take them out. That's who my battle was with."

Book Referenced in the show: 
Twelve Ordinary Men: How the Master Shaped His Disciples for Greatness, and What He Wants to Do with You by John MacArthur

Check out Fetch the Goodness: https://www.fetchthegoodness.com/

Download Grace for Homeschooling: https://www.fetchthegoodness.com/guide

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Transcript

0:00

There are times in life when God is going to ask us to do something that doesn't make a lot of sense, and we're going to feel a little crazy for doing it. Even more importantly, there are times when our family and friends are not going to understand, and they're going to disagree wholeheartedly with what we do. A lot of times, we will back off from our dreams because we want our family members to be all on board. Last episode, we talked to Kelly Frasier and how she answered God's call to more with doing something that was totally against what I even thought courageous retirement was all about. She shared with us how she had to overcome her fears by doing some really courageous things. And by building that muscle, she was able to go against even what her family thought was right. Something the world would tell us we should not do. She has a beautiful story of how God helped her walk through that journey and how things turned around. And we're going to hear the rest of that story today. In this episode of courageous retirement, I hope you'll join us for this incredible incredible story.

Vona Johnson: 1:00

Do you fear what lies beyond retirement? What if it's a gateway to a life filled with purpose, meaning, and adventure rather than an end? Discover peace and fulfillment as you boldly enter this new chapter in Courageous Retirement, a Christian podcast. I'm your host, author and coach, Vona Johnson. Let's get started. It's one thing to have the courage to go do these things and your neighbors thinking you're crazy and all the things, but when we were talking before, I mean, you were, your studio started out in your home and you have this beautiful studio now, but one of the obstacles was your family. They were like, You've lost your mind. And it was compounded by the fact that you were all in with God and they weren't. Can we talk about that? And I'm sure there are people that are listening to this who also are dealing with, the fact that they have family members that aren't believers. And so they, they think we're a little crazy when we do some of the things, right? Yeah.

Kellie Frasier: 2:03

No, they don't think we're a little crazy. They think we're a lot crazy and that's okay. That's okay because God says, Jesus is very clear about this. If you love me, the world will hate you. He doesn't say the world may not like you. He says the world will hate you. Okay. So if you have not experienced a little bit of that persecution, then perhaps you might want to ask God, you know, what is it that I'm not doing that you want me to be doing? Because truly that is being a disciple of Jesus. We're not the disciples all persecuted. You see what I'm saying? So there is a difference between being a Christian and going to church and then coming home and being a disciple and doing exactly the call on your life and the will of God. There's a very big difference there. And we all get to decide where we're going to land on that. Right. So I think the power behind what it is that you're asking is just to know your family may not come along with you. That's okay. Your friends may not come along with you. That's okay. Just being able to get up in the morning and know what God's called you to do. And you say, today's your day, Lord, I'm doing whatever it is you want me to do. Show me. Right. And he shows you and you go and you do, if you're doing that every single day, think about Noah building the ark. Okay. As an example, everybody and their brother thought he was crazy. Nobody wanted to come onto that boat. Nobody, his family comes onto the boat. Praise God that they didn't deny him and say, no, you're crazy. And, you know, I'm sure they did it first. Think about that. You know, God just laid it all out, told me that this is what I'm going to do. And he didn't tell him how long it was going to take. Right. So what I was saying earlier was here, we have this generation where we want everything quick, right? But that's not God. If, if things happen that fast, it may not be God. And so you need to question that spirit. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I am saying that God's timeline is so different than ours. We haven't even officially launched Fetch the Goodness yet because he's still building it. It took Noah 120, 20 years or something like that to build the ark before it rained. But what was the first thing that he was telling the people? Hey guys, I haven't done it yet, but it's going to rain. And when it does, God wants you to get on this boat that I'm about to build. Are you crazy? It hasn't been raining here forever. What are you talking about? What boat are you going to be building? You know? So now they see him building this massive boat on his property, I'm assuming. And now it does begin to rain after 120 years, but it took that long. That. Is what God does. He will set you out on a path and it may not happen overnight. If you are an overnight success, like fetch, the goodness was fetch. The goodness was an overnight success. And the first year, right? What happened to it? God did not want man to get the glory for that. God wants himself to get the glory for these things. Why people can come into the kingdom that way. If we keep pointing to us, we're never going to be able to be pointing to him. And therefore kids. adults will never get into the kingdom that way. So we have to point to the glory of God.

Vona Johnson: 5:22

Very

Kellie Frasier: 5:22

good.

Vona Johnson: 5:24

But we didn't talk about the family.

Kellie Frasier: 5:28

Well, I kind of did because I, about the, they, you know, they thought I was crazy. They didn't want anything to do with me because that is the, That's what they felt, you know, for the longest time today. I have a great relationship with them, except one of them. Uh, I have three children by the way, and a husband, and we've been married for 43 years this year, I think it is. but yeah, he did not have the same belief or the same depth of, of, you know, level of loyalty, I guess, to God that I had. And, and look, this is not a, well, let me just tell you I'm up here and he's down here. No, he has his own walk in his own journey, just like everybody else does. And I have to respect that. Now, when. your children, when you're raising your children, if they turn their back on God, that is not on you. That is their choice to do. And if they turn their back on God and, and you now have dubbed them the, the, what, what's the, what's the phrase when a child turns it back and runs away? The boy who came back to his dad. The prodigal son. So. You know, when children turn their back on God, they become in your mind, like the prodigal son or the prodigal daughter. I don't look at them that way. I look at them as they're on their own journey. Jesus gave us an example of what it looks like when a prodigal son or daughter comes back. Right. But I don't go after them. The dad never went after them. I let them be for as long as they needed so that the Holy Spirit could work on them. I do my prayer battle on my knees or on my face, depending on, you know, how I pray. Um, that's where God tells us to do our warring. It is warfare, spiritual warfare while we're here. And so my battle was not with my children. It was with the enemy that was trying to take them out. That's who my battle was with. And so now, like I said, After years, guys, years, it takes sometimes for your children to come back, but don't run after them. Don't try to, you know, pound Jesus over their head. You cannot do that. We as a body of believers have got to just come under them and love them the best we know how to do. Will we offend them? I'm quite certain we will. Jesus offended people too. So we just have to understand that it is part of our journey and it's part of their journey.

Vona Johnson: 7:44

I love that so much. Wow. Because, Yeah, so many people we'll use anger and all kinds of things to try and convince their love. Manipulation. Yes. And, and no, no one was ever shouted into becoming a believer. So no, I, I really love that. And, and honestly, I, that's part of my journey. I mean, I, I can wear the label of a prodigal daughter. I was always a, I always loved God, but I didn't put him first in my life and I put a lot of other things there and um, I'm just grateful that he was there when I, when I came back. Right.

Kellie Frasier: 8:28

Don't you think we're all prodigal at some point?

Vona Johnson: 8:30

Yeah. I think so. I really think so. That's a good point. Yes.

Kellie Frasier: 8:34

And look at the disciples. Not a single one of them understood what Jesus was there for, right? So I'm pretty sure that we are all labeled prodigal at some point. And that story was not for a prodigal child. It was for all of us who eventually come to God and he throngs us with this beautiful coat and all the fatted calf and every bit of what joy and love he wants to pour onto us. That's my perspective of that story. But most people look at it as, oh, they're the prodigal

Vona Johnson: 9:03

child. Very good point. Very good point. You know, it's funny. Um, I just listened to the book 12 ordinary men by, I think it's John MacArthur. Have you read that?

Kellie Frasier: 9:17

I have seen and heard bits and pieces of it, and it, again, I get chills. I mean, it's powerful.

Vona Johnson: 9:24

I will listen again, because it is so powerful, and it's such a huge reminder that those, those apostles, were humans. They were fallible. They all came at it from different places and they doubted and they had questions and they sinned and, and yeah, um, I highly recommend that book to anyone that's thinking, questioning. No, it doesn't even matter. Everybody who believes should just listen to that just because he digs so deeply into how God has a place for all of us. Regardless of our background. So, so that's pretty incredible. So I think. Believe it or not, I think we've covered, all of the questions that, that I had for you today. And I am just so grateful that you took the time to come and share your journey. What I'd like to do now is have you tell the listeners about Fetch the Goodness and how they might be able to find it, whether they are, I mean, if they're listening to Courageous Retirement. They're, you know, it's probably, they aren't going to have littles at home, but they have littles in their lives. They have little people that need to know Jesus. So tell us, tell us how they can find, fetch the goodness.

Kellie Frasier: 10:45

Well thank you. First of all, I want to honor you for what you're doing. I really value everything that you are doing to reach the people that are in our age category. who, who think that life is over now, you know, it is so not as long as you're breathing, God can use you no matter what. So thank you very much for doing that. I think that's beautiful. Um, so fetch the goodness truly is to teach the children, the goodness of God, and it's to help them with their identity. Now we all know what's been going on with a child's identity. All right. And so their identity right now is like up and down, right? You can be a cat, you can be a dog, you can be a boy, you can be a girl. And When, when we see the power of fetch, the goodness, when the children watch the TV shows, or they listen to the curriculum, um, animated cartoons, or they're working on the curriculum itself, they're learning, not just about who God is, but about who they are. And they come out of this thinking about the selfishness of what, what I want, what I need. Right. They, they learn that this is a part of pride. So the things that we teach are repentance, salvation, and the fruits of the spirit, each one of them, because I think I did not understand this when I was growing up, that those fruits of the spirit are fruits of God's spirit, not the spirit, but God's spirit. And so when you start to realize that you start to Take on his personality, right? And that's what we're supposed to do. It says to imitate God, right? So that's why those things were so important. And God, again, he was the one who laid it out, not us. And so my entire team, all we're focused on right now is building the community that we have both local because our TV studio is local here in South Carolina. And then we have a community that we're building online. So if you go to fetch the goodness. com F E T C H, the goodness, G O O D N E S S, dot com, you will find there, exactly what it is that we're doing. Now we are, focused on the curriculum there, but we also have a free book that they can get. And this book is so beautiful. It's called The Grace of Homeschooling. Now think about that. The grace of homeschooling. I'm not, I'm not here to encourage everyone to homeschool because not everyone wants to homeschool. But if you know someone in your life who is thinking about homeschooling because of what is happening in our school systems today, this is a fabulous way to get them to start. So all you would have to do is go to fetch the goodness. com forward slash grace. And that's where they would find the book. And that's free. You could just download it and it's awesome.

Vona Johnson: 13:27

Oh, that's wonderful. Well, thank you so much for explaining that and, and for that offer for people to get the book. I'm sure that there will be people that would love to, to see that I'm, I'm excited to see it. And I have no intention of homeschooling, but I appreciate the fact that there are people that recognize that what's happening in our schools is, is not, it's not in alignment with what God's will is and, and we need to get back. And yeah, I can't imagine how, um, rewarding homeschooling can be if, if we do it with God's help. That's so, so wonderful. Thank you for that. Is there any last message that you would like to we close out today?

Kellie Frasier: 14:14

So I'm just asking Holy Spirit, actually. Just that the grace of God is the goodness of God. And if you don't know the grace of God, and it's really just accepting the gift of grace, um, then you will probably have a hard time believing in his goodness. You may see him as an angry God. And that is not who he is. But does he have anger? Absolutely. He has jealousy. He has anger. He tells us about that. Right. But I think if we miss the grace that God can give to us as a free gift, a free gift, all we have to do is receive it. We're, we're going to be hard pressed to do God's will because we will not see him as good and we won't see the grace as his goodness. And so the two are synonymous and it's a beautiful journey. Once you can receive that, it took a long time for me to receive it. So I understand how it can be challenging, but just take a moment to just get still so that you'll know God's grace is for you.

Vona Johnson: 15:17

That is so beautiful and a wonderful way to wrap up this conversation. I have just been so blessed by the time we've spent here together.

Kellie Frasier: 15:28

very much. Yeah. Appreciate it.

15:30

so many wonderful words of wisdom in this conversation with Kelly, I hope you were able to catch both episodes. If you have not caught the first episode with Kelly, I encourage you to go back and listen to that as. She just shared so many biblical truth there and so much encouragement on how we can answer God's call for more. I want to thank you for stopping by. I know that your time is precious and it means a lot that you're here. Two weeks from now. We're going to do something a lot different than anything else we've done. I'm going to interview a woman and we're going to learn about a new hobby. That's. Kind of been around for a long time, but this woman is putting a special emphasis for women. Not that guys don't do it or can't do it, or can't listen to this episode. But she's going to just open up kind of a whole new concept. So it's going to be. Like I said different, but it's also going to be fun. And I think it's another way that we can live in courageous retirement. I look forward to seeing you back here then until then engage your faith live your more and reap the benefits of courageous retirement.