Navigating Sex Drives, Porn Boundaries, And Modern Dating With A Cheeky Twist

Want the kind of relationship talk that’s honest, useful, and a little bit unhinged? We’re diving headfirst into desire: why long‑term couples slip into sexless ruts, how “duty sex” chips away at intimacy, and what it takes to reignite actual want without shame or pressure. Miami jumps in with us to unpack foreplay, context, and effort—especially where women’s desire is more contextual and men’s arousal is often rapid and visual. The throughline is simple: complacency kills chemistry, and communication revives it.

We push into the thorny stuff most people avoid. Where’s the line with porn—fun inspiration or emotional cheating? We talk viewing together, secret subs, money spent, and what to do when porn becomes the only path to arousal. Then it gets spicier: hidden kinks and how to share them without blowing up trust. Consent, safety, and honest limits make room for play; secrets, shame, and guessing games quietly suffocate desire. If your partner’s into something you’re not, you can still respect them while keeping your boundary.

Modern dating gets a run too—body count myths, deep‑stalking exes, and whether you can be friends with someone you used to sleep with. We look at how digital habits tug on jealousy, what “proof over promises” looks like, and how to set clear lines without killing the vibe. To keep the mood cheeky, we debut Red Light Reading Room, turning innocent nursery rhymes into smoky reads, and cap it with cathartic pet peeves and a listener prompt that invites your stories.

If you’ve ever felt your bedroom go quiet or your confidence dip after too many rejections, this one’s for you. We keep it real, we keep it kind, and we leave you with practical ways to bring back flirt, novelty, and fun. Enjoy the ride, then tell us your take: what’s the hardest conversation you’ve had about sex? Subscribe, share with a curious friend, and drop a review so more people can find the show.

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SPEAKER_04 0:08

Welcome to Fully Grown Himos, a podcast about our adventures as fully grown himos navigating today's world full of inquisitive friends' questions about gay life and the unexplored activities of a life lived as fully grown homos.

SPEAKER_08 0:21

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SPEAKER_04 0:33

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SPEAKER_08 0:59

Hey Matt. How you going, Dave? I'm very well, thank you. What's happening? Uh well, we're second week into the new year already. We are.

SPEAKER_04 1:06

I know how fucking fast is it flying?

SPEAKER_08 1:09

We'll be back to the new year next year.

SPEAKER_04 1:11

Ten days in. 52 days' time. Yeah. Well, yeah. What what have we done? Um, well, what haven't we done? We've done lots.

SPEAKER_08 1:21

You've done a few duvets, haven't you? Duva tunas, wherever they call. You've made a few. I don't know if you're not what you're talking about. Bedding, it's very warm. I'm just saying you strip a few beds in the year.

SPEAKER_04 1:31

Yes, no, I actually do need to strip my bedding for when Ness comes over and stays. Yes, you do. I need to clean that room. You do. Can you remind me after the podcast? Not after the podcast, I'm not doing washing tonight. All right, but before we get into the what we're doing, let me just press this buzzer because I sense something in the air. I do too.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

I don't give a fuck because I'm in Miami. Because I'm in Miami. I'm in Miami. Bitch.

SPEAKER_04 2:06

Yeah, Ashley's in the house again. We got her back again. Welcome, happy new year.

SPEAKER_02 2:11

Hi guys, happy new year.

SPEAKER_04 2:13

Happy New Year to you. What's been happening? What'd you do for New Year's?

SPEAKER_02 2:17

Um, it was a pretty quiet one to be honest. Stayed home this New Year's. Yeah, it was pretty quiet. Watch the fireworks. It's because your dog isn't there. Yeah, because I've got a new puppy. He's eight months old. We wanted to make sure we're home for the first slot of fireworks.

SPEAKER_04 2:30

And how'd he cope?

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Yeah, okay. A bit freaked out at the start, but then he was pretty good. He sat out the front with us to watch the ones going off around the area.

SPEAKER_04 2:39

I just want to say you live in Crown Brook, so it's not like he's not used to gunshots.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

I don't need stalkers. I have enough. I don't need to tell the whole population.

SPEAKER_04 2:48

Cromebrook's a big area. It's actually named Cranebrook for those listening along in different countries, but um, but we call it Crown Brook because it's a really lovely area. Well I think you've got quite a nice area too, haven't you?

SPEAKER_08 3:03

You had a shooting before Christmas, don't you? We do.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Like, where do you where do you think you live?

SPEAKER_04 3:08

I'm in high society. I'm in high society, Penroof.

SPEAKER_02 3:12

Penruff. Dave's a fancy one.

SPEAKER_08 3:14

Dove is a fancy one over in Mongowa. Yeah. I'm in a suburb that doesn't open doors and doesn't close doors either because people walk in and walk out and they just happy wherever they are.

SPEAKER_05 3:22

Yeah, they just don't care.

SPEAKER_04 3:24

Yeah, no, here in Penroof, um, we're classy as fuck. Um, but yeah, you're like yourself. I love it here. I do. So what's been happening, Miami?

SPEAKER_02 3:33

Not much, guys. Not much busy. It's that busy time of year where you're like, you know, work, Christmas, all of that sort of stuff. So it's been a bit crazy. What about you two?

SPEAKER_04 3:44

Um working back to work, yeah, and and yeah, it's just we've been to a few parties.

SPEAKER_08 3:50

We have dick parties or just normal parties? No, happy birthday parties. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:54

Did we discuss that on last week's did we? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 3:57

So we went to Helen's.

SPEAKER_04 3:58

Yeah, we went. We went last night to Ali's. Yeah, we went to Allie's birthday last night. That was very nice in the Woodstock. Woodstock, yeah. Really nice food. Never company, right? Um, the so the Woodstock, backstory of the Woodstock. It used to be called the Carousel Hotel.

SPEAKER_02 4:11

Oh, and if anyone's from the Mount Druid area, you know. You do not go there.

SPEAKER_04 4:17

But it used to be a titty bar for a while there. Yeah, yeah. It was a CD bar. Like when I was growing up, I went there with my mum. It used to be a country and western bar at that stage.

SPEAKER_02 4:25

You went with your mum. Yeah, I mean she used to take us.

SPEAKER_04 4:28

Take the whole family, all of us there. She used to get drunk there.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Um were you driving in that stage or drive? Because that's what I'll do with Ash.

SPEAKER_04 4:35

No, not really.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Oh, okay. I just maybe you would design.

SPEAKER_04 4:41

You can't get him to drive yet. How old? How old were you? You've been about 11. Oh, probably 11, 12. Okay. Yeah. So I probably was old enough to drive. I'm out here at standard.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

He was having sex since he was back home.

SPEAKER_08 4:56

This is where it all stemmed from, the woodstock. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Everything's done.

SPEAKER_04 5:03

It's really nice. They've made it really bougie. Um, there was a great food was good there. The food the singers. The singer was she was phenomenal. So classic. Yeah, she was, yeah, she had a great sound. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 5:14

But she was like a local artist, but she had this like really smoky sound.

SPEAKER_04 5:18

Very smoky, smooth, very like she did like songs like um River Deep Mountain High, but like really slow and all that kind of stuff. So she was very ambient background music, very nice. She was really, really, really nice as well. It was busy there when we got there, wasn't it? It was very busy. And we won not one, like between the five of us at the table, we won three meat trays. Like that's huge, and there was only like 12 on offer for the whole night. Um so that's pretty good odds. And these meat trays were like amazing. They're big ass meat trays. Like I got like a roast lamb tray with all the veggies. Did you see the pictures? Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

You see the size of my sausages? They were fucking nice. Love a nice big piece of meat. But they were gurkey.

SPEAKER_08 6:04

Me and Matt were prodding them on the way to the house.

SPEAKER_04 6:06

We were squeezing him and I went, fuck that's a girthe sausage. How did we find that on Sunday? It was fun.

SPEAKER_08 6:10

Yeah, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:11

But you had a fucking whole pig, didn't you? No, it was a lamb. A lamb leg. A lamb leg. A lamb leg. From what I believe.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

But that's a different story.

SPEAKER_04 6:20

You're not wrong. You're not wrong there. I've had a few pigs. Yeah. Holes. No, hang on. Wow. Yes, I have. But anyway, not actual pigs, just for the record, although I do love bacon.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

Okay, okay. Moving on.

SPEAKER_04 6:36

We digress around. How are you gonna fucking ADHD queen over there? Gonna move me on. Like, come on out.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

I feel like it was what that reminded me of then.

SPEAKER_04 6:48

Miami decided that she wanted us to carry around post-it notes when we talk to each other so that we can actually keep on track. And I told her that I don't have enough walls to fucking have those post-it notes on.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

I'm not talking like a team meeting where everyone has to write something in a post-it and put it on the wall.

SPEAKER_03 7:04

No, you're just writing every new thought.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

Yeah, so when because quite often we will be having a conversation and Dave will be sitting there smiling, thinking about it.

SPEAKER_08 7:13

As I'm doing right now.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

And halfway through our, well, all the way through our conversation, other things come up and we go on different ways. And then we say, Oh, remind me to tell you, remind me to tell. Then we never remember to come back around. So it's like if we had posted notes, we just put one word, one word, and then we know what we have to come back around to.

SPEAKER_04 7:33

Just might be like four weeks later.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

Or like tonight, you've come in and we were having a conversation early in the piece, and then you went, oh, what we were saying before, and it literally was from like an hour and a half earlier.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

What?

SPEAKER_04 7:46

No, yes, and you were asking Dave about his house. You said, and how is your house? Oh, like what I was saying before, how is your house? And it was literally a conversation we'd had an hour and a half earlier.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

No, it was not.

SPEAKER_04 7:58

So was. It's a day.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

Did I zone out and come back around?

SPEAKER_08 8:05

I was gonna say, I cannot say, or I cannot deny. But the truth is, yes, you did.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Well, I didn't I didn't mean to.

SPEAKER_08 8:15

No, but it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 8:16

I would have just got sidetracked with something like I think the lights annoyed me for a little bit. Maybe that would confuse me.

SPEAKER_08 8:23

I love these two. This is this is the best.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

I have a serious question. Yes. Why everywhere that I sit in your house at the moment is there a camera pointing at me?

SPEAKER_04 8:36

Because these cameras are for my babies for when I go to work.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

So just for contact, no, hang on, for context people, I have sat at the guest seat and there is a little weird-looking camera thing on the desk in front of me pointing at my breasts.

SPEAKER_04 8:52

Which serves as a purpose, right, to watch my girls on the lounge, which are sitting behind you, right? When I'm at work. So I would check in on them throughout the day. I actually have eight cameras throughout my whole house.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

Yes, I noticed there was another one actually quoted. Well, well, that makes sense. But there was also one on your plant stand staring at me on the couch before you.

SPEAKER_04 9:13

One behind you, too there. And one there.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

And that one's pointing at my back.

SPEAKER_04 9:17

It is. What's point at your ass? It is. I don't think you can capture it.

SPEAKER_02 9:21

Oh wow. I just wanted to make sure you weren't.

SPEAKER_04 9:28

People would fucking pay money for your eyes.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

That's what I'm wondering. Are you cashing in on me on OnlyFans?

SPEAKER_04 9:33

I we we know what happens with my OnlyFans experience. They never go so well. Right. I do not make money. We know that that's not a thing for me. That's definitely not a thing for me. So, anyway, so yeah, alright. So we wrapped up pretty much, aren't we? Well, yeah, I mean we didn't do it an awful lot after. No, we didn't do that. Like I said, we want some meat, which is always handy. We're planning an adventure tomorrow.

SPEAKER_08 9:58

We'll call it with everybody on Wednesday, Thursday. Or you didn't go Thursday to the pumpkin.

SPEAKER_04 10:02

No, I went to the gym. I've been back, I've been back to the gym a couple of times this week. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 10:07

And he wasn't replying to my textbook.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

Anyone who wants to huh?

SPEAKER_04 10:11

My fitness first. Okay. A proper actual gym. Because this year I need to get myself back into some kind of shape because I really I haven't let myself go as such.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

No, you look fantastic. I know.

SPEAKER_04 10:21

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 10:21

I was like, so can we start yoga again?

SPEAKER_04 10:24

It sucks like that. Don't give him that. I want to, but I don't have the time. And and hang on. Can we start? Hang on. Hang on. Can we start yoga again? Is something that never happened. You took me to a yoga festival or a wellness festival, and then I started yoga, and I invited you along to the yoga thing, and you couldn't do it. And you couldn't do it, and you couldn't do it, and you couldn't make it. So you we didn't start yoga.

SPEAKER_02 10:51

I'm sorry, but did I not attend three yoga classes with you at the yoga? Exactly. So that's starting.

SPEAKER_04 10:59

Starting me. You know how to trigger my fucking what I'm saying. I didn't expect you to then go and buy like what are the things that I'm my obsessions, my addictions, your addictions, my hyper-focus.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Next thing you know, like he's buying yoga pants. You know what he's like honestly, he's into it.

SPEAKER_07 11:18

You give him a new topic. You said to him tonight you're going to start collecting these topics.

SPEAKER_04 11:22

I'm like he will.

SPEAKER_07 11:23

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04 11:23

I think what they're talking about is the popmart popmart minis. All right, they're talking about those because we were in T UK Maxx a while ago now, and I'd seen a um Cindy Lauper one. So I bought it, and but I'd already bought the Tin Man one somewhere else.

SPEAKER_08 11:43

Yeah, you bought that from Audi. From Audi a while ago now. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 11:46

And so, and then I seen the Cindy Lauper one and I went, I have to have it. Because for anyone that knows me, I'm a massive Cindy Lauper fan, have been for forever since she was in Blue A.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

You voted the concert on your own, obviously.

SPEAKER_04 11:57

Yeah, of course I did, all the way in Newcastle, yeah, correct. Because they were better tickets. Um got you a share one, but then Dave got me a share one as well. But then there's I love share we've got Burton Ernie one, so Dave's wife, um ex-wife.

unknown 12:11

He's a cut now.

SPEAKER_04 12:13

Dave's ex-wife got us for Christmas. Um, so yeah, but before okay, before we go on to the next hyper focus area, we have to oh fees blingy things. Do yourself a favour, people. Get online, get onto Instagram or TikTok and look up fee F-I fee like fee, um, the fees blingy things, right? She has done us a Bert Nooney, and she but she bedazzles things. So she does these handbags, she does the bedazzle my crocs, yeah. She would, but you couldn't wear them though.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

Yeah, on the top of your side. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_08 12:49

Of course she could. She could definitely do a great job of it because you'd give her a theme and she'd go with it.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:59

Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

She could give me like that.

SPEAKER_04 13:02

I don't just think that if she wore dudes them and you really like them, you'd want to wear them out with I wear cox out everywhere anyway.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

So, what's the difference?

SPEAKER_08 13:09

But that would be great because you could have like like the red slippers from the Wizard of Worlds.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

No, I want pink, hot pink, hot pink, yeah. She could do that.

SPEAKER_04 13:17

But yeah, so she did a burden early for us. She did. They are fucking amazing. Like I like I I've seen her stuff, right? Um, onfits with TikTok with the phone. She's the most sparkling. She shines. She is a beautiful one. But but these things, holy fuck, like they exceeded my expectations. The wrapping was delightful um when it arrived.

SPEAKER_08 13:39

Because we love Burton Ernie because we've adopted them as our our as our I'm gonna put our unboxing video up as well. Um, but yeah, so we struggle sometimes to find items, but you put it you you challenged her, didn't you, when she made that mini box for the mouse and you cigarette? And within literally an hour, she found these one. And they are retro mini, they're they're proper retro um mini boxes.

SPEAKER_04 14:05

So they're now like one of a kind, yeah, exactly. Which is kind of awesome. It's kind of awesome. So, yeah, thank you, Fee.

SPEAKER_08 14:11

Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 14:12

Um love you, love you, but yeah. Um, so this week's topic, we're gonna let's crack on to this week's topic. Otherwise, before you know it, we're gonna be at an hour and a half again and before we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_08 14:22

So we're gonna continue where we stopped last week.

SPEAKER_04 14:25

Yeah, kind of, kind of.

SPEAKER_08 14:26

But went in Miami into the fold. We actually were actually we didn't discuss Helen's Party because we were going to Helen's Party at the Lost Podcast. Oh, remember? Because we stopped because we had to go to Helen's Party. Okay, so we hadn't talked about Helen's Party. No, we didn't. Oh my god, because we didn't talk about the happy cat stuff and everything else, but we can we'll do that at a later stage.

SPEAKER_04 14:47

We'll do that at a later stage because we want to get into this topic, right? We've got Miami here in front of us and we need to talk. This week we're gonna talk a rule around sex, desire, and taboos.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

All right, so in a relationship, is that where we're going to do that?

SPEAKER_04 15:01

Yeah, well, in in the context, in the general context of um Well is relationships, secrets that you hide in a relationship, sort of thing, basically living a lie in a relationship. So some of these things that you potentially will hide from your partner, um or yeah, yeah, so yeah, so so when like so mismatched sex drives, for example, like have you ever been in or do you know of anyone that has a mismatched sex drive?

SPEAKER_02 15:32

Because I think that's everybody. I think I think a lot of couples do.

SPEAKER_04 15:35

I do too, yeah, because I definitely did in in all my relationships, because I have a high sex drive, yeah, especially now that I'm single, right? But I always think that I have a high sex drive going in, but then I don't know whether it's the boredom that kicks in.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

I think that's normal in every relationship. You become complacent about it.

SPEAKER_04 16:00

Is it though? Because I do I do know couples that still have sex frequently, right? And they've been together for a long time, and they're not actually lying, they genuinely do have sex.

SPEAKER_08 16:12

I think it all I think it boils down to a lot of things, whether one person's tired of working or there's an issue going on mentally in their head, and they just can't get around that, and it's affecting them in that regard. So I think there could be lots of different things, but I think the biggest one is like you said, people become complacent in their relationships and they don't seem to make the effort anymore because it's like okay, well, I've secured my relationship with that person, I don't have to entertain that person, I don't have to make an effort, they're there for me now.

SPEAKER_04 16:41

But how do you maintain a sex drive in a relationship? Because if in my honest opinion, right, and being through I said my last two relationships that were pretty much sexless, right? Um and one of the reasons I would well, there's many reasons I never ever want to get into another relationship, is because I really enjoy sex, I love it, right? I'm good at it, I have fun with it, right? Um, so I never want to not do that again, right? So I don't want to get into a relationship where someone says, Oh, I'm just not feeling it, I'm not up to it, I don't want to, right? And I know friends of ours um are in relationships where their sex drive isn't full on as well. So I sit there and I think to myself, isn't that just brother and sister? Best mates, roommates, roommates.

SPEAKER_08 17:36

Well, that happens a lot, like I said, it does happen a lot, but people don't talk about their sex to other people openly because it's a private matter, technically, anyway. Um, but you know, I don't know. That's my take on it anyway.

SPEAKER_04 17:48

Yeah, I don't know. But I don't know. Sex drive, I I I I'd wanna I want it up there.

SPEAKER_08 17:53

But the other thing is, are they secretly having sex drives behind each other's backs and just not having sex with each other because there's other reasons behind it?

SPEAKER_04 18:01

This is this is my other thing that I was going to mention. So if you've got a high sex drive and your partner's got a low sex drive, right? Should this be an open discussion with your partner to say, oh look, I'm dry and can't be fucked, right? How about you go and get whatever you want from someone else?

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Oh, that's I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 18:20

What are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_02 18:21

Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 18:22

I know, I know that would never happen.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

I would keep it. I know I would like you're a jealous.

SPEAKER_08 18:28

Yeah, well, I'm saying what what happens if it was you that had the high sex drive and then well she does. Yes, she's a horny can't go.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

But I think for women it's it's different, like because once you've been in a relationship for a while, and you you're men right, yeah. So you know that sometimes if a man just wants sex, it's quite quick and easy and you can have sex. But it's just it's not always like that for a woman. I think once you get comfortable with someone, so you know, your husband or your partner, and then you know, sex turns into more of a emotional thing, come here but should it not be through? Yeah, and you lose all that intimacy and foreplay and passion first that really gets women going.

SPEAKER_04 19:12

What's foreplay?

SPEAKER_02 19:13

But that's women need foreplay. Where men tend to fall into yourself ready before I walk in the room, then this is but that's the thing, men tend to fall into like the relationships I've been in where it's dwindled, it's because I've lost interest, it's not what it was. Like the men fall into that I'm comfortable, come here, yeah, let's do it. You lose that where I want that.

SPEAKER_08 19:39

It becomes a convenience thing rather. I want the excitement, not it's sex for convenience, so open your legs, let's do this.

SPEAKER_04 19:46

You want the smart book. Yeah, I want the smart book every single day.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's a big thing, I think, for for females.

SPEAKER_04 19:54

For men it's not. For men, sometimes it's just like I'm blown, I'm going. I don't Even need you to come, exactly.

SPEAKER_08 20:02

Also, and you would know this being a mother, it's very difficult when you've got young children, yeah. Because those children pretty much take over your lives. Yeah, you become tired, frustrated, irritable. The child is in that your bed all the time, you know. I mean, yeah, and you and you kind of give up, or one of the partners tends to give up because they think, Okay, I can't have intimacy with my partner because I'm being affected by this. And I think over time, especially if you have multiple children one after the other, it becomes like a routine of where you know you don't have the opportunity to have that engagement unless you're on your own or you go away for a romantic romantic weekend or something like that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

But even then it can be hard.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

Yeah, so this is what I'm asking is is it um is it unfair or fair to I guess deny the other person if your drive, if you know your drive is dried up, right? Should is it fair? Like no, I I think that if you know your like if we go on if we're going through a stage, right, where it's just a little bit, um you know what, okay, and okay, I I don't get it because I obviously have never been in this situation, but if you've had a baby, everything's healing, all that kind of stuff, you need some time to recover and get in touch with your body again. I get I get that, right? I get that. Um but if if you're in, like I said, a loving relationship, you're finding that person attractive still, right? I think there should be some kind of sexual spark there still.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

Yeah, definitely. And I and I think it comes down to you just have to meet halfway. Like if you're not willing if you don't want your partner to look elsewhere, but you don't want to give them sex, well, that's not really fair. Where that's what we've got to do. And that's what I'm saying. So you have to either be willing to accept that at some point down the track there may be some infidelity. Yep, yeah, or you need to meet halfway. You need to get together and talk and go, okay, well, what do I need for this to work? And it might be that the it might be that could because I'm telling you, men get lazy with women. The fall play's gone, everything's gone, and then you're like, oh, this isn't by the time you warm up, they're done.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:15

You know, so you have to learn to meet halfway. What do I need for this to work? And what do you need for this to work?

SPEAKER_04 22:20

Yeah, and and this uh uh this is where I think gives up the conversations and following on from last week, I think a lot of it was around the communication, the conversations that that were the really important part in these relationships of living a lie.

SPEAKER_08 22:35

People don't have that conversation anymore where they need to express what is the problem within their relationships. Well, sex is so easy to get. Well, sex is so important. Sex is so important in a relationship because it bonds you together, regardless, you know. And I think everybody needs sex, regardless whether it's individually or whether it's a couple, you still have to have that emotional sort of like you know, get yourself off or whatever it'd be. Yeah, it's important, you know.

SPEAKER_04 22:59

So so this I guess leads kind of to my next point. Um, and uh, let's discuss duty sex versus desire. So, what are your thoughts there? Like so, what's your what's your terminology of duty sex then, so okay, so if if let's say I'm in a um what's that? What do you call you people?

SPEAKER_08 23:22

No, heterosexuality.

SPEAKER_04 23:24

Heterosexual relationship, right?

SPEAKER_02 23:26

You people imagine if I refer to you as you people, I would be cancelled.

SPEAKER_04 23:33

But you just go ahead and go on my podcast, so you're fucking you people since 2026, no. Well, I meant straight people, all right? The straight world, the heterosexual world, right? Um, so if if we were to take a typical, right, and I do not agree with this, so please, um Cleo, do not cancel me, alright? I but because she'll be the one to call me on it, I can guarantee you. Um, but the the roles, the feminine masculine roles, where the feminine role is probably your um often. Well, no, what's the word I'm looking for? Like it's it's the submissive role.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

Which I get is not what you're you're in.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

It's not for me.

SPEAKER_04 24:14

Um, all right, but more a submissive role. So whereas it's the wife's duty to have sex with the man, right? And stuff like that, versus that she wants to have sex with the man. So, I mean, what are your thoughts on that? On on duty sex as such.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

I think it happens. Like, I I think we can all look back in our life and think of a time where we had sex more for the other person than ourselves. I think I think that's a natural part of any relationship. Let's say, but as an ongoing Well, I mean, you can't it wouldn't be okay for me.

SPEAKER_08 24:54

Yeah, please.

SPEAKER_04 24:55

Sorry. Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, so ongoing, it it just I think I think it almost constitutes right, and I get that there's consent.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

But some people are okay with it though.

SPEAKER_04 25:08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

Some women are okay that uh like yes, it's duty sex, they're not really it's not it's not for them, but they're okay with that. Yeah, and some people are okay with that sort of role in a relationship, so it really depends on the sort of relationship you have. Yeah, and I feel like if you are a strong woman, well, I shouldn't say that because it doesn't mean it you could be a submissive woman but still be a strong woman.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:34

But if you're in a more dominant position in your relationship and you hold it, it doesn't mean that you know, I've lost my train of thought now. Yeah, I I know it yeah This is my ADHD brain. I know, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you you don't enjoy it, it doesn't mean like it's just and that's what I'm asking.

SPEAKER_04 25:53

I guess is it is it still enjoyable? Because you might be thinking, okay, every Friday, okay, so every Friday night or every Sunday morning. So I used to have a neighbour that was definitely duty sex, right? Um, because every Sunday morning, right, they used to, we'd actually have people over to our house, right, to listen because they'd be having sex every Sunday morning, but she would bark, she would go, right? And it was like we knew what she was gonna make, and how he didn't realize that she was faking this sound, right? And she'd go, Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, you're so big, right, and all this kind of stuff, right? He was a white Aussie.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Are you sure that she was faking it?

SPEAKER_04 26:38

Yeah, because it was literally the same script every single week.

SPEAKER_02 26:41

If it works for your relationship, then it works for your own relationship.

SPEAKER_04 26:43

But that's what I'm saying. So it's it's yeah, and and but does it because it is consensual. It is consensual, because that's something, yeah. As long as it's consensual, I guess for me.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

As long as it's consensual, it works for your relationship, you don't feel like you have to. It's more uh this isn't like let's face it, we all do things in our relationship for the other partner. Like if my husband says to me, give me a massage, well, that's Judy Massage. I don't really want to fucking take it. I don't want to give him a massage.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

I can undo him on the thing. Send him down to two sisters to two sisters. I'll send him to you. No, um that, yeah, that. But you can send him down to the two sisters massage in Penriff, he'll get a happy ending there for sure.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

And I think that that's what it comes down to, that you're always gonna do things like and we always do. If it's a constant thing, but it works for your relationship and that's what keeps your relationship happy, healthy.

SPEAKER_08 27:37

And what about the other side, the desire side of having sex?

SPEAKER_04 27:41

Well, I think see my desire waned, right, when I was in my relationship because I kept getting told, Oh, I've got to do too much prep. I can't, I've got I've got an upset stomach, I've got this, I've got that, I've got that, I've got that. So you lose the desire. So I lost the desire. I completely lost it. I kind of thought, oh I'm not feeling attractive in myself, right? Um because obviously I keep ready to read it. But you obviously had conversations, but I keep getting rejected, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. You better have conversations, right? Um, but I kept getting rejected. So therefore, I kept feeling less and less.

SPEAKER_08 28:24

So, what made you stay in the relationship then? I think I was just comfortable. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 28:28

People get complacent, don't they?

SPEAKER_08 28:30

And they don't challenge what should be challenged.

SPEAKER_04 28:32

I liked all the other parts of it. Like I enjoyed, I guess, the conversation, the laughs, the things we did together, and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We we we ate out some really nice places. We didn't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

No, I don't think I'd like to I thought you just stayed with him because he like was a good cook.

SPEAKER_04 28:52

Well, he was a great cook. He was, he was amazing, phenomenal cook.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Yeah, give him that.

SPEAKER_04 28:56

He was a great cook. Yeah, yeah. So I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

I just thought that's what it was because I mean that would have been enough for me.

SPEAKER_04 29:03

And look, he was good looking back in the day, back in the day he was younger, and he had a body, like he had a decent body when I met him, right? And stuff like that.

SPEAKER_08 29:12

So um like you said, you you you let time take its hold over you, and then you sort of like just fall into that space where nothing ever happens, yeah. And your your relationship can number four.

SPEAKER_04 29:26

Oh it's a boy. Exploded everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 29:31

Yay, my little sort of pup. I don't know. I'm used to things exploding all over me, Dave. Trust me. As soon as I touch it.

SPEAKER_04 29:38

She had lettuce on her place earlier.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

You're a salt. It was my natural block.

SPEAKER_04 29:47

You've got a whole lettuce on your chin that I've got proof.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

I'm really into Korean skincare at the moment. Maybe I can just say it was some sort of Korean skincare ritual that I was doing.

SPEAKER_04 29:57

Or your Korean KFC.

SPEAKER_08 30:00

Um Korean fried chicken. That thing you sent me, that woman sit on that chair. Oh, that Matt didn't watch. Didn't you watch it, Matt?

SPEAKER_02 30:08

No, because apparently my reels aren't funny.

SPEAKER_08 30:10

Oh, that was fucking hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

Thank you, Dave. So, so funny.

SPEAKER_04 30:14

When look, I've got a few friends that send me everything. If I had to sit and watch everything, Mascot. If I had to sit and watch everything, I couldn't go to work and earn money to feed my babies.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

So back to what we're talking about, not to like throw you up. But what about porn use in relationships?

SPEAKER_04 30:33

Oh, well, I think that's I'm okay with it, and I think it's healthy because it gives you ideas and it helps drive your desires and stuff like that in your sex life, right?

SPEAKER_02 30:42

However, I think there's a line.

SPEAKER_04 30:45

There is a line.

SPEAKER_08 30:46

If you're doing it on your own and not with your partner, that is cheating, technically. Oh, it's not cheating.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Then I've cheated on my husband like 5,672 times.

SPEAKER_04 30:58

I just want to see your reaction. But I'm gonna grab that, I'm gonna use that audio and grab it and just post it to Aaron and say, now it's your turn, mate. You have a go with me.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

I I look, I think it's I think the line is porn use is fine.

SPEAKER_08 31:17

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 31:17

I think everyone watches porn use. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_08 31:20

And it's so available now.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

I think as a woman, if it crosses that line to like live webcam, okay, right. That's where I would be like so.

SPEAKER_04 31:31

What about if your hubby is subscribed to somebody's OnlyFans? Or Chatterbait. She doesn't know what Chatterbait is. Yes, I do. Okay, so I'm sorry, of course you do, you slut. I love chatterbait.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

Chatterbait, I think well that that's no, because that's like live webcam.

SPEAKER_08 31:50

Yeah, but you're not liking with them, are you? Technically, but you can read. You can. You can talk to them. You are right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

And you can aren't so you're interacting with that person. The the men or females are able to say, you know, take your clothes off, hand over for me. That I think is the line. I think when you're when you're just watching something that's uh literally like a show or a movie with no connection between the two of you, then what about if you're in the background and you were there present but off camera, watching what he's doing, but he was getting paid fucking shitloads of money for people watching him masturbate? Yeah, that's fine. I'll pimp him out. Okay. That's all right. How much are we talking? But I'm saying if he was watching and subscribing to women, right, yeah, and asking them to do things on live cam. I think that's where you got in that.

SPEAKER_04 32:38

Okay, all right. So here's here's a question for you, right? What if he just liked one particular porn star only? And I wouldn't watch any other porn apart from that one porn star. Just say it was uh I don't even want to mention her name, Tunnel Cunt. Um Bonnie Blue.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

Um oh Bonnie Blue. You call it Tunnel Cunt. Yeah, no. Well, I wouldn't have to worry about that. That's not my husband's song.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

Yeah, I know. I know that. He likes me.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

Um I I I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 33:10

Like I think would you think it would be cheating? Because he would be fixating on this one woman.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

If you started spending money, a lot of money on their OnlyFans and things like that, then yeah, definitely. Because I think, and that's the line too. Are we talking about just going, you know, on Pornhub and watching some free porn and getting your socks off? Or are you spending your socks off and your family? I said rocks off, didn't I? I didn't. You wait to hear that back.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

33 minutes and 30 and 40 something seconds, all right.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

I think it crosses the line between porn and OnlyFans when you start investing and spending yours or your family's money on it, on a female.

SPEAKER_08 33:55

What about when porn becomes the addiction? So your partner can't have sex with you without having porn on or having that.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

Well, I think that's a deeper rooted problem that they probably need to get help for.

SPEAKER_04 34:07

Exactly, but it happens though. Oh, 100% it happens. But especially with because as men, we are very visual. Dave's trying to play puts putsies with me on a page. I played with him earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See? Three way, three-way puts.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

I've got a pedicure today.

SPEAKER_04 34:21

I know. You're my ugly Tony, you're good.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

Don't come near me.

SPEAKER_04 34:24

Imagine if it was contagious, you'd die.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

Look at these creeping toners.

SPEAKER_04 34:28

Mine aren't pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

I don't know why Aaron won't suck my toes. Look how cute my feet are.

SPEAKER_04 34:33

I'll suck them here. You should do it now. I shouldn't do it.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

This is the finger thing all over again. This is hilarious. Do I do it? I've been walking around with little shoes on table. I mean, if that's if too many claws again, then I can't know. Maybe when I'm not wearing a dress, that might be more appropriate.

SPEAKER_04 34:57

Yeah, we don't want your prolapse falling on his head.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

I don't have a prolapse. We've been over this over and over again.

SPEAKER_04 35:04

So yeah, okay, so porn in relationships, I think, in moderation. Yeah, moderation. And as long as it's not the only thing to get you across the line.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

But I as long as you're not obsessing and spending your family or your partner's hard-earned money. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 35:22

What about hidden kinks?

SPEAKER_02 35:25

Everyone has hidden kinks.

SPEAKER_04 35:26

But from your partner, they don't know about it because you've got a kink. So whether you might be into pissing on somebody or something.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

No, I think it's okay.

SPEAKER_04 35:35

I think it's okay at the start because I think why did you just roll your eyes at me?

SPEAKER_02 35:39

No, because no, I just had a thought. No, something came not a thought came in my head. Okay. Yeah, I'm not sure. No post a note to write it down. It was a memory. Okay. Um, anyway. Do share. Um I think that everyone keep and this is the thing, like when I think about hidden kings and fetishes versus when another, like let's as an example, let's use Britney. Yep. My hidden kings and fetishes are gonna be very different to Britney's hidden kings. Britney's hidden kings and fetishes are probably my like Saturday night. Do you know what I mean? Like so I think it depends what they are.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

Yeah, mold versus wild.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

Yeah, so my hidden kingston fetishes may take me a little bit longer to get out there because I want to suss out how they're gonna be received.

SPEAKER_04 36:34

So, how would you introduce just say, just say I'll joke about it? I was gonna say, just say you're into piss play or something like that, right? And not into piss play, right? I do like I don't mind watching a guy's video, like a piss video, right? But like of a guy pissing a urinal. Really?

SPEAKER_02 36:53

You don't mind it?

SPEAKER_04 36:54

No, I don't like it. No, I don't know. Watching with the urinal, like I don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 36:58

What about when they piss on each other?

SPEAKER_04 37:00

But not really into watching that as such. But I don't hate it. Yeah, yeah. I haven't I haven't scrolled past it instantly. Me too. Right. I've rose I've clicked on it a few times. Rose buds? No, rosebuds are not doing that. I scroll past straight away, right?

SPEAKER_02 37:14

It's not pretty. Right.

SPEAKER_08 37:15

Fisting straight away.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

Yeah, I'm not into fisting. I've watched, but I'll click on a piss video occasionally. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_04 37:21

Yeah, that's a bit occasional. Just to have a little look at something. Do I want to get pissed on? No, would I piss on someone? Yeah, no problem at all. Yeah, correct. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

What about the girls that go to Dubai to become public toilets or that thing?

SPEAKER_04 37:34

I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

How do you not? They get paid like $250,000 and they go to these really affluent.

SPEAKER_04 37:42

Count me in, I'll piss on me then.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

No, and they'll be a girl. And I'll get tits for it. They go to these really just Google it so it comes up and talk.

SPEAKER_04 37:50

Because I don't need it now.

SPEAKER_02 37:51

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 37:52

I'll get distracted, you know that.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

Well, they go to these really affluent parties with very wealthy men in Dubai. Yeah. And they're brought over just to be from anywhere. Shit on and like sexual and yeah, like it's pretty, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 38:10

Okay. Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 38:11

It's a thing. It's a big thing.

SPEAKER_08 38:12

So if someone offered you $250,000, would you let them do that to you?

SPEAKER_02 38:16

Yeah.

unknown 38:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 38:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 38:18

That's paying off your mortgage in four trips.

SPEAKER_02 38:20

I feel like I said that too fast. No, no, probably not poo. I don't think I could do poo.

SPEAKER_04 38:25

Are they hot Arabs?

SPEAKER_02 38:28

Well, one of the girls, no, one of the girls ended up like on the side of the road, half dead. Well, remember that? Yeah, so you see, you gotta be very careful.

SPEAKER_08 38:35

I remember one of our um our friends, Steve, one of our Steves, we know. Yep, one of our Steves. Yep. He went up to visit his dad when his dad used to live in the Gold Coast, remember? Yep. I remember him telling us about hooking up with one of his neighbours that his dad was living next to on the floor above or below, and he was like a German guy, and Steve went down, and then this guy wanted Steve to lay it on the floor and put this stool above Steve's chest, and he wanted to shit all over him. Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

I don't think yeah, and that's I'm not a I I wouldn't start vomiting.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

Yeah, that's it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

But there's a lot of women, there's a lot of women that get paid money, like good money to shit on.

SPEAKER_08 39:16

So on the flip side, then what would you do if you found your partner had a kink that you didn't know about, but then it turned you off because you found that he was doing that particular type of thing? Um, I don't I look would it affect your personality?

SPEAKER_02 39:34

I'm the wrong person to ask because I'm quite open to kinks and fetishes, and I understand that people like different things. So it would have to be it would have to be borderline illegal or like wrong wrong for me. Borderline illegal or wrong wrong for me to be like, you know, if it was something that was not hurting anyone, yeah, yeah, and his own thing.

SPEAKER_04 40:01

And you're going to jail as well or get killed, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

Yeah, exactly. But if it was something that, like, you know, like females to fight in my face or something.

SPEAKER_08 40:12

So who doesn't? Do you know what I mean? I would be like, oh, okay. Something that was acceptable in your mind, but you wouldn't get involved with it. Yeah. Yeah. It's not for you.

SPEAKER_02 40:20

Oh well.

SPEAKER_08 40:21

You don't judge him because he likes it because you know, no.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

And I mean if it's something that he really likes. What if he came home now?

SPEAKER_04 40:28

Because you've been together for a while now. Okay. Yeah. Right? What if he came home now and said to you, Oh, by the way, I just want to ask you a question. I've been thinking about it a while. I'm into pegging. I've brought it up before, but I'm into it. Because would you be then would you then be thinking why is this the first time I'm hearing about it? Because you won't even let me stick a finger in there.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Yeah, no, see, see, for me, it's hard because that conversation would have come up because of the person I am.

unknown 41:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:01

So I've talked about doing those things before. So it would have sort of knowing that I'm open to that sort of thing, it would have I would have been able to sense that there was some interest there.

SPEAKER_05 41:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 41:13

So that's what's hard for me. For something. Okay. This is what I mean.

SPEAKER_04 41:16

And trust me, you have played in there. What about this? I've pegged. What about this? No, but you've tried to get in there. What about your husband going in here?

SPEAKER_08 41:22

Your husband comes home from work and he's getting undressed, but he forgets that he's wearing women's knickers that he's stolen from someone's line and it's a fetches of his to steal women's clothes.

SPEAKER_02 41:31

Well, I'm not about breaking the law, so what I'm saying is take them back to that poor girl. But what would you think?

SPEAKER_08 41:37

We went to Honeywood for that. But what I'm saying is, what would you think if he inflation?

SPEAKER_02 41:42

Like, you know, money.

SPEAKER_08 41:43

No, what what what would think you think if he was coming home and he'd had these on all day?

SPEAKER_02 41:48

I would be like, Yeah, I'd I would be annoyed. I'd be like, why don't you just tell me and then take I'll give you a set of mine.

SPEAKER_04 41:54

Yeah. So yours will never fit me.

SPEAKER_02 41:58

You're a prick. I still have some that may.

SPEAKER_03 42:03

Why? But I would be like dream pandies to get back into. I love you so much.

SPEAKER_08 42:09

They were full briefs in the deep. But what I'm saying is that they're a boundary. There's bound be relationships out there that have these. And it would it would push their relationship to the boundary, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

That's why it's so important to just be open with each other, I think. Yeah, well that's true and be able to have those conversations. I think the conversation is a very important thing. And if you can't if you can't, I think you should really probably question the person that if you're in the right relationship.

SPEAKER_08 42:38

Yeah, correct. Well, I think that pretty much covers that topic.

SPEAKER_04 42:42

That topic's pretty much covered, isn't it? So we're gonna do a news segment. I'm gonna play a little jingle. I'll pop this in properly in future episodes, but gonna try this now.

SPEAKER_01 43:09

After dark, we read between the light.

SPEAKER_04 43:19

All right, Miami, explain to us about the red light reading room.

SPEAKER_02 43:24

So the red light reading room is a segment, a new segment on your amazing podcast. You bought to this wall for us that I bought to the table as an option.

SPEAKER_04 43:36

Yeah. And we like it.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

Because the idea of it is to take things that normally wouldn't be erotic or sexual in any way.

SPEAKER_03 43:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

And then read them as if they were a smart or erotic fiction book.

SPEAKER_04 43:53

Alright, so listeners, for you out there, what we want you to do is send us in your suggestions of things you'd like us to read out. Right? Whatever they may be.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

They could be shopping lists.

SPEAKER_04 44:04

They could be manuals. Yes, send us your shopping list. Send us a screenshot of an email you got from a work colleague. A food menu. Send us a food menu. Send us anything. Let us know what you want us to read out and make sexy. Now, I think this is gonna work when we have Miami on and any other guests on, right? So I don't know if it'll work with just the two of us.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

So you what you're saying is you're gonna steal my segment and run with it with some controller.

SPEAKER_04 44:34

We're gonna utilize it like the I should have copyrighted this. It's potentially gonna be its own podcast.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

Miami's Red Light Reading Room. Miami's Red Light Reading Room.

SPEAKER_04 44:44

You got it, baby. Yeah, it works for me. It really works for me. I'm just about too transferred. Alright, so who's gonna read first? So what we've got to do is we have decided that today's theme is Nursery rhymes.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

Nursery rhymes. So we've all picked a nursery rhyme for each other.

SPEAKER_04 45:02

Yes, we have, yes. Yep. So we have now. Who's gonna read? I'm not going first.

SPEAKER_02 45:07

Matt. I'm not going first. It is going to be you. It's gonna be me. And Dave has picked your nursery rhyme. Dave, what have you picked for?

SPEAKER_08 45:14

I've given Matt Matt, the wonderful old MacDonald had a farm. And I'm hoping he uses that topic we talked about earlier about bacon and pigs and all the other things in it. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

And we won't do the whole nursery rhyme, guys. We'll be here forever.

SPEAKER_04 45:27

So we'll just. Well mine's only short anyway, so yeah, it is. It is, it is indeed. And I'm lucky. So how start? Alright, let me just get sexy one second.

SPEAKER_05 45:38

Yeah. Oh, that's it.

unknown 45:40

That's it.

SPEAKER_05 45:41

Old McDonald. At a farm. Ay. Aye. Oh. An honnie's farm. There I'm there. There I move. Everywhere. Oh my God. Farm. I well.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

I feel like um you may be getting arrested after that.

SPEAKER_04 46:38

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 46:38

I um I'm not sure if that was erotic fiction and smart or pornography, but I think I've got a Sammy. She's got bigger. Wow. Okay, well that was old McDonald's.

SPEAKER_04 46:55

That was old McDonald's Got a Farm. Now I actually chose for Miami a real classic from my childhood. It's called The Wheels on the Bus. Take it away, Miami.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

Alright, this is gonna be interesting. Okay. I don't know how I'm gonna do this and keep a straight face. Okay. The motor on the bus goes there. That motor on the bus goes. Or through this down. The people on the bus go up and down, up and down, up and down. The people on the bus go up and down, up and down, all through the town. I'm gonna stop there. Because the next party's about babies and I don't think it's appropriate. I haven't heard that version anyway.

SPEAKER_04 47:56

Well, I just started, like I just came in a bit a bit late, a bit late to the party. I've got to close my eyes, dude, and I can't.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

Now, for Miami, do you want to introduce Well I picked Dave's and I thought it like I thought a little bit about it. I knew whatever we gave Dave's was gonna be hilarious, let's face it. I knew he was really gonna think about this subject and maybe do a little bit of pre-work on on it, Matt, because we know Dave likes to really he really likes to give him his character.

SPEAKER_03 48:31

Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

So I picked what did I pick? I'm a little teapot. So show us in your teapot, Dave.

SPEAKER_04 48:42

I'm gonna be quiet, I'm gonna contain myself over here. It's gonna be me, he's gonna be laughing like you two. That's for sure.

SPEAKER_06 48:48

Take it away, Dave. I'm a little teapot. Short and stout. Here's my handle, and here's my spout. When I get all steamed up, hear me shout. Tip me over and pull me out. I'm a very, very, very special teapot. This is true. Here's an example of what you can do. I can change my handle and I'm and my spout. Tip me up and pull me out.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

That was so good. That was so good. I was not Dave, I was not expecting you to come out. I can do it when I put my mic in. You came out strong. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:37

Alright, remind me to get you to use some sex talk later. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 49:42

Have you got your little teapot costume ready for later?

SPEAKER_04 49:45

I've got my spout ready.

SPEAKER_03 49:46

Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_07 49:47

Matt's got his cat costume ready to go all over again.

SPEAKER_04 49:52

All over your face. Um all right, so um that was um the red reading room. Which I love. I think that's a great title for our um our little segment here.

SPEAKER_08 50:06

So we're gonna do this as well.

SPEAKER_04 50:08

Yeah, now we're gonna go, because we had fun with this one last week, Dave, didn't we? So we're actually gonna do it again this week. And we're gonna go to a random day in here, right? And we're gonna pick it out. This is the calendar thing. This is the calendar, so I'm gonna scroll through here. And Miami's gonna Miami's gonna put a finger on a page.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

Do you want me to put my finger in it?

SPEAKER_04 50:26

Any page. Go, go, go. Oh, we got what date? You got the Monday, the 20th of July. Have you ever had a major work win that went unrecognized? Come on, not all of them are gonna be fucking sexy.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Um, yeah, I think we all have.

unknown 50:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

I'm not sure how to answer that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:53

Alright, pick another fucking question, ready?

SPEAKER_02 50:55

Dave, like, what am I meant to say then?

SPEAKER_04 51:00

It's like, give me something horny, you cut.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

I felt like I was in my like mid-year performance review or something.

SPEAKER_04 51:07

You wouldn't want to be on that with me.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

Why?

SPEAKER_04 51:10

Because I would give you a fucking performance improvement recording. Go because I've been a bad, bad girl. You can pick the same one. Don't say all right. Alright. Um, this is Sunday, the 15th and 14th of March. The 14th and 15th of March. This is more oh god. Many blush to confess their faults who never blush to commit them. What? That's a proverb. I'm just fucking picking it up. Let me do it. Okay. Okay, you go, no, no. What is a phobia you have that no one knows about? There you go.

SPEAKER_02 51:45

Oh. I don't know. Not that not like I'm, you know, I ramble a lot, so I probably tell everyone all my phobias.

SPEAKER_04 51:54

You do. Nothing, it's something you're not afraid of something. You know what a phobia is, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:59

Yes, I know what a phobia is. Far out.

SPEAKER_04 52:03

Just checking.

SPEAKER_02 52:04

Have I not dropped my IQ to you a number of times?

SPEAKER_04 52:06

Oh, sorry, I forgot you're at 175 or some shit like that. No, not that high. It's 141, isn't it? Or something.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

Well, anyway.

SPEAKER_04 52:14

What's your phobia? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 52:16

I'm like, but there's nothing like that. What are you afraid of? Oh, well, I'm afraid of everything. I don't like elevators. I always get worried I'm gonna get stuck in them.

SPEAKER_04 52:22

Elevators or escalators?

SPEAKER_02 52:24

Elevators. That's lifts.

SPEAKER_04 52:26

That's quite cool. Lifts.

SPEAKER_02 52:27

I could get scared I'm gonna get like stuck in them.

SPEAKER_08 52:29

I was gonna check the phobia of that one.

SPEAKER_04 52:31

It's called liftophia.

SPEAKER_02 52:33

What?

SPEAKER_04 52:34

Lyptophobia.

SPEAKER_02 52:35

Matt's making shit up off the top of his head here.

SPEAKER_04 52:37

That's unlike me. Okay, that's um a strange one. So my one is actually bridges. Right. Driving specifically, I was gonna say pacifically, which was really bad English. Uh specifically driving over bridges, right? I don't deal. I don't deal, and anyone that's been in the car with me while they're driving over a bridge can confirm this. I stop breathing, I hold my hands like tight at 10 and 2 on the wheel, right? Which I always do that anyway.

SPEAKER_02 53:05

Yeah, I was gonna say what's new.

SPEAKER_04 53:07

But I slow right down and I just like Again, what's new?

SPEAKER_02 53:12

To 20 miles an hour.

SPEAKER_04 53:14

Yeah, 20 kilometers an hour.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

Um so we go from 40 to 20 k's an hour. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:19

I just can't breathe over a bridge. I just I feel like I was probably died on a bridge in a past life, right? And I'm frightened of doing it again this year, this time.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

So when you hold your breath, there's an intentional.

SPEAKER_04 53:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:32

So do you think it's more like a phobia or like an OCD trait?

SPEAKER_04 53:36

No, don't diagnose me just because you've got all the issues.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Listen, I've had so much therapy that I could be a therapist right now. So I'm happy to take therapy with Miami. Therapy with the segment.

SPEAKER_04 53:50

There you go. Yeah, we can add it to the red reading room. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:53

I asked because what you describe to me sounds more like an OCD. It's unintentional.

SPEAKER_04 53:58

It's unintentional because I I feel fear.

SPEAKER_02 54:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:01

I feel for you.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

But people with OCD traits don't intentionally want to do them.

SPEAKER_04 54:06

And a lot of them are don't hyperfixate me and make me go and do ICD OCD things then.

SPEAKER_02 54:12

A lot of them are um like patterns or things they need to do, rituals. Something I need to do. So holding your breath, having your phone, having your hands in a certain position. That's very like OCD, like Matt.

SPEAKER_04 54:28

Maybe. Dave, what's yours?

SPEAKER_08 54:30

Well, mine is now like fear of heights, open open opening space heights. Okay. So like I wouldn't go on the hot air balloon because I said to you, because even though I know the basket is high enough to my chest area, I still feel that I would fall out. Um, having worked all my life on military aircraft when I was younger in the military, I had no issues working at height. We never had safety harness or anything like that. So I don't know whether it's something that has changed over the years as I've gotten older and I've become more fearful, or I think it's probably more spatial aware. You you lose that sense of like, you know, when you're younger, you everything's invincible, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 55:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 55:08

But when you get older, you realize that there is a danger there. I think maybe that's where it's all come in. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 55:13

Okay, all right, cool. All right, now let's flick again. Go, put your finger in. Yep, perfect. Yeah, okay. Perfect. All right. Oh, I feel targeted.

SPEAKER_02 55:24

How many wait, how many times a day do you hear put your finger in, Dave?

SPEAKER_08 55:29

Well, when he messaged me in the morning, he says, Hey, sexy man, have you? Take your finger out.

SPEAKER_02 55:34

Do you really?

SPEAKER_08 55:35

No.

SPEAKER_02 55:35

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 55:36

Um, um, what have I stopped on? July. Do you July 30th, right? Which is a Thursday this year, right? Um, do you drool in your sleep?

SPEAKER_02 55:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 55:50

Miami's nodding.

SPEAKER_02 55:52

Yes, I do. If I'm really tired or like my sinuses are blocked, yes, I do.

SPEAKER_04 55:59

Have you ever woken up and you think, what is that on my face and realized? Yeah, no, no. Mine's on my pillow the morning. Yeah, but I'm I go all the way on my pillow, down my face a whole lot.

SPEAKER_02 56:10

Well, I had an incident the other. It takes me a long time to relax.

SPEAKER_09 56:15

Right.

SPEAKER_02 56:15

Right. And just part of being like neurospicy, I think, too, it takes you a long time to wind down. The other, about a week ago, I was lying in bed and I was really relaxed, and I was like cuddled up in Aaron's arms, and we're watching a movie or a show. And I don't do that. I know it sounds silly, but I don't do that. Like the position I was in isn't a position I would normally like the position you sleep in. Yeah, or lie in a lot. Okay. Um, so he was lying there and I was like on his chest, head on his chest. He had his arm around me. Um, and I think Ashton was on the other side, and we were both asleep. And Aaron was watching cricket or something boring. No wonder I fell asleep. And I remember waking up, but you know what woke me up? The wet patch of my drool on Aaron's chest. And I wake up and I'm like, and I wake up and I'm like, you know, licking my lips, and I looked up at him and I'm like, I'm drooling. And he just looked at me and he goes, I know I use it as loot. He goes, Yeah, I know. So that's why I had a little bit. You go the best husband. I know, he is. He's like, Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure I just shut my eyes and went back to sleep to be.

SPEAKER_08 57:31

Does he drool as well?

SPEAKER_02 57:32

Um, no, I don't think so. He snores so.

SPEAKER_08 57:35

Yeah, I think most people snore though.

SPEAKER_04 57:36

Yeah, I definitely drill. Well, I not every day, but no, sometimes.

SPEAKER_08 57:41

And again, I think it's down to when you got your sinuses and more sort of water. I get the same problem as well. All right.

SPEAKER_02 57:46

Hey guys, I have a quick question.

SPEAKER_08 57:48

You do? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:49

You had some of those, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02 57:50

Yeah, I had a couple of questions on dating and hookup culture.

SPEAKER_04 57:54

Oh, you did.

SPEAKER_02 57:55

Because we're in 2026 now. Yeah, we're in a new year. We are, everything's changing. And have you heard what they're gonna call that that the this new generation?

SPEAKER_05 58:05

No, beta.

SPEAKER_02 58:06

Yeah, the beta generation. Beta, yeah. Yeah, B E T. Yeah, beta, beta, but yeah, beta, yeah. Isn't that gonna be interesting?

SPEAKER_08 58:14

And they reckon they're gonna be so much more like and they reckon they're the ones that are gonna be the ones that see the next generation, the next century as well. They said that on the TV, didn't they? So these this generation coming now will be the ones that will technically be old enough to see the next century coming in. So 2020 22nd century is gonna be so so anyway.

SPEAKER_02 58:32

So back to where we were. I was gonna say the context of dating, dating and hookup culture. So I've got a few little questions here, and I wanna I wanna ask you. So, body count. Do you think body count is still a thing in 2026, or is it a dated concept? So, how many people someone slept with? And I guess it's very different in the homosexual scene versus the heterosexual scene.

SPEAKER_03 59:00

Yeah, it is, it really is.

SPEAKER_02 59:02

You guys have a lot of bodies.

SPEAKER_04 59:05

Um, a lot, a lot of bodies. So, so the thing is that if we look at me, for example, like my body count from way, way before when, right, it was big, right? When I was single, I had racked up a few numbers, right? Quite a few numbers, and they continued to grow, right? Um, when I become single again throughout every year and all that kind of stuff, right? Now, I was watching, I believe I was watching MAFs or something like that last year, like one or two episodes, or it might have been even the year before, because I don't tend to watch it because my brain just can't deal with losing any brain cells, right? And there was one guy on there that was claiming that he had a body count of 200 or something like that.

SPEAKER_09 59:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 59:53

And he was saying it like it was the biggest count that anyone's ever heard of. And I'm thinking No, it's not.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:00

Do you watch 90 day fiance? No, you've got to get into 90 day fiance.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:03

I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

SAPA from 90 Day Fiance has like a body count of like 2,000 and five.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:10

200's a a weekend for me sometimes. Like and maybe not, maybe not. But yeah, but like, but it is it isn't a huge huge number by any standard.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:19

In that case, if like 200's not a uh how how many litres of semen do you reckon you've taken?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:25

Oh no, it depends enough to fill a swimming pool. Oh, I reckon a swimming pool. Um, like I reckon an Olympic size swimming pool, probably.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:35

Really? You filthy, filthy, filthy.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:38

Yeah, and that's just swallowed, let alone taken in my ass as well. Probably it could fill a river. It just comes back out. Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes it absorbs in. But yeah, really? Yeah, it's like moisturizer for your anus.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:53

Really?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:54

No, it comes out. No, it comes back out. It comes back out. But then sometimes I've been at church and you go to fuck someone and you go on like our conversation just goes so off track.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:05

Anyway, keep going.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:06

Give me that back. I haven't finished drinking that yet. Sorry, the waitress tried to get out of here. The waitress tried to steal my drink. Um, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:13

For anyone who doesn't know, I silently then just like signal to Dave. Can you get me a drink?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:21

Is what she said.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:22

No, and Dave's beautiful. I love you, Dave. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:25

I'm back. So he had to leave the table.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:28

But at least I didn't at least I was polite and thanked him. I didn't thank you. You were like, don't take my drink away.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:33

I'm still still got some in this drink, but how about thank you?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:37

Thank you for bringing me a drink and thank you for cleaning up after me. I bet he always has to clean up after you, even at church, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:44

Correct, he does. He likes to clean up. Yeah, you don't like to clean up after yourself. I I um don't miss a drop. What are you talking about? He doesn't. What? I don't waste a drop. He's a swallower. I fucking swallow 100%.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:55

As you can tell from my eating experience. I can miss a lot of drops.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:01

You're a messy bitch. I might put that photo that photo.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:06

No, you're not going to.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:07

It hasn't got your face.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

It's just not care. Dave, did you hear that?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:14

I did hear it. I did hear it. Fuck. You've only got one chin. Alright, it's just coming in and let us know.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:18

For now, at the moment. Not if I look down. But anyway.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:22

You're a pre-so dating, dating, dating schedules, dating.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:27

Oh, yeah. Dating hookup culture, okay. It's a body count debate. Do you think it's a thing?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:31

I don't think it's a thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:32

I think it is. No, there's still a lot of chauvin. There's still a lot of chauvinistic males that are like from male to female. I'm not gonna date a girl that's sleep with the biggest.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:41

And has more than three guys who got, yeah, we just antiquated.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:45

This is why I and this is why females lie about their body count.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:48

This is also why I love Abby Chatfield, right? Um don't don't give me the face. I love Abby because she's an advocate for I did, but she's just gone too far.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

I did, I did love her. I love her, but I feel like she's just she's got a platform, and she had a really strong message and she had a good message, and I did really like her, but now I feel like she's she's just gone too far with things.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:12

Okay. Well, she wasn't very good with her mother on The Bachelor, was she? Yeah, okay, she was but her. She was personally The Golden Bachelor.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:18

Yeah. I didn't know. Do you know that he he works at our work?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:22

Does he?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:23

Well, I'm not gonna say where. Okay. Um, it's been a topic of conversation about about us girl uh amongst us girls. We even like looked him up on the corporate. Well, where did he know? Okay, who would have known?

SPEAKER_08 1:03:37

Yeah, he he works in your for our company my office. Oh yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:45

Oh well, I don't think now, but like prior to the show. I was shocked as well. Anyway, sorry, back on track.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:51

But yeah, so well, yeah, but she was hurt because her mum didn't get chosen, and I get that. You take your family personally, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:58

Um, I get I get it.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:00

But I don't think he was going on there for the reasons because I don't think the person that he chose didn't he end up with someone else anyway, like Sandra Sally or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:08

Or apparently, yeah, what's her name?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:10

I don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:13

No, no, it was it was whoever's a month of Armitage. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:18

I don't do name starts with S.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:20

It's basically.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:21

It could have been Carl Stefanovic for all I fucking know. All right, um more likely David Campbell, but yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched Carl do him, yeah, 100% David Stefan. David Campbell. I would love it.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:30

I'd love David.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:31

I'd love to fuck David David, yeah, and I reckon it's a possibility too. Um, but yeah, um, because he's definitely gay.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:37

Okay, anyway.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:38

Anyway, let's move on. Hookup culture, um it's still a thing, I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:42

Okay, I I don't think especially for those I don't think it's important, but I think for those guys, and I think that's why women lie and out there, like ain't no longer. Don't lie.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:50

Shop the fuck out of him because if he doesn't want you for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:52

Aaron doesn't want to know.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:54

He wants he's just like how do you remember?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:58

I would have to right. I would have I'd probably need to just think about it for a week.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:02

A week. But it can't we'd have to get into your psychology and take you all the way back. Yeah, I know. Tell me about it.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:09

I couldn't I could not even, I could not even but the thing is, are people that trying to make up numbers to make themselves look good because you can't have the other way around, can't it? That's what they say.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:18

They say men add on, yeah, and females take off.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:22

Let's do an experiment tomorrow and find out how many.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:24

Well we know.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:25

No, we do how many we actually do tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:28

All right. Are we combined or individual? Well, what counts? Main mainly oral, anal.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:34

Oh well, my lists both improve, like not improved, but it's lengthened if we're talking orals.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:41

Yeah, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:43

I have another quick one for you. So, have digital trail. Have you ever deep stalked a partner's ex and what's the craziest thing you've discovered? So you know you get with a new partner and you know they had this. Yeah, and you're sort of like a little bit want to know like who their ex is, what it was like, what that person's like, and then you like to go down that rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:11

I haven't okay, I wouldn't say deep stalked for those reasons, right? With my ex, he bagged out his ex a lot, a lot. So I might have done some because we got introduced at some stage as well, right? So I think I may have looked at his social media profile to find So you met his ex. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:35

That's another uh another question. I'm gonna go into something.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:39

I but I think it was more a um deal, a look at just to see was this guy really that bad? Right? Because he painted him in such a bad light, like such a bad light that he took this from him when they left, he did this, he did this, he did this, he did this.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:57

But that same person also pointed you in a painted you in an absolutely heroic. That's exactly right.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:03

Now, retrospectively, you're looking at going, oh my god, same treatment.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:07

So they completely lied about you, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:09

So, well, yeah, it's like in in in our opinion, yes. But yeah, no, no, it's factual. I know, I know. But yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:16

But what would you do if you had a new partner and they only talked highly of the last partner? Would you be more inclined to look at their profiles then? Yeah, definitely. Because don't compare me with somebody else. I'm incomparable.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:29

I'm not here to but pretend I'm not messy and trashy. Like, fuck yeah, I've deep stalked. Like I'm like, I'm like FBI level. I'm I know I know her uncle's cousin's sister's neighbour. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:44

Like a bit like you do, Dave, with um people that we meet that are hot that you find out their name and then you accidentally click on their Instagram.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:53

Stalking from a perspective of looking at them as a profile, not the.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:58

Have you ever done it? Have you ever done it and then accidentally liked their picture? Yes, he did. I did. I did. I did, and then I had and then I unliked it, and then I thought, well, that's even worse now, because now they're gonna get the notification that I liked it, but then it's not like I was like, ah, myself.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:14

Dave did it. We were checking out some hotkeye Marley, um, and he and Wolf and Bear, which is a really cool Aussie clothing brand, and he was hot, right? But so Dave found out his name, and we stalked Dave stalked him a bit on Instagram. We were coming back on the Merley Ferry, and it was really choppy, really choppy. Dave had gone deep, like as into the sister-in-law's sister's wife's husband's fucking family member, turned like 1994, the priest that married them or something like that, and and and all of a sudden the wave came off, and Dave's gone, and he liked it. But he was pissing himself up. I was dying, I was crying my fucking eyes out. It was hysterical, it was really good. But yeah, um, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:58

A quick one on the back of how we just talked about you said you had been introduced to your ex's partner. Yep. So the X factor, can you ever truly be just friends with your ex or someone you used to be intimate with? Or is there always that underlying attraction or tension? So yeah. So if you get with someone and they say I'm still friends of my ex and we still hang out, and what's your thoughts?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:25

It's a good question because I am friends with my very first ex, Darren, right? Um, like my very, very first boyfriend, right? That I call a boyfriend. So I'm friends with him, right? Now, would I fuck him again or have him fuck me again? 100% because the sex in our relationship was amazing.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:46

It was just a relationship wasn't if you were if you were.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:49

If I was in a relationship, that would be a problem, right? Yeah, um, because he's in a relationship, so it would definitely be a problem for him, right? But I would I'd love to fucking fuck with him again, and I'd love Dave to have the pleasure of that as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:02

Because is this your way of an open invitation to the table?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:05

Yeah, bring it on, Darren, because like his cock feels real good inside y'all. He's he's he's a mushroom, yeah, yeah. Darren mushroom head, yeah. Yeah, he he's okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:15

So this is the wrong question for you because now you're just like inviting your ex to come over the same.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:21

But you finished on good terms, actually. Yeah, we finished on good terms.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:23

So if you finish on good terms, then why wouldn't you? But then if you were in a relationship right now, obviously that would be a good one. It would make it awkward. Yeah, that person would not be a good one.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:32

So we didn't how could you much like we'd message happy birthday in that throughout when I was in the relationships.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:38

But you didn't hang out or didn't meet up or anything like that. So you I'm still friends with an ex. But he's not really an ex. Just someone I sort of like dated. Blue one. No, no, we like we were seeing each other, but things just didn't go that way.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:56

And we're friends in the sense that you know send a message here or there, hey, how are you going? Like just on Instagram that he's got kids and moved on. And so you've got that, you know. I mean, anyone who's been with me knows that they like they missed out.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:16

I've got a question that you inspired me to think of just now.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:19

I'm very inspiring.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:21

Okay, so what would happen if either one of you hooked up with someone that your sibling or your other family member has had sex with?

unknown 1:11:32

I.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:33

Sorry, say your sister, yeah, right, had had a boyfriend and then suddenly he left her, and then you end up not knowing who he was, but end up fucking having sex with him, then find out that your sister slept with him as well. Or like vice versa. I'd be asking who is better. Um, but what I'm saying, how would you? I wouldn't have to ask.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:52

I was just about to say who's kidding you, I would know it'd be better. Um, that would make it awkward, especially if you were going to a family function, obviously.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:00

Well, yeah, but you're talking about what would you do in war so you brought that person with you, not knowing that your other sibling has had that person.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:07

That would be awkward as fuck, but that would be a fun movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:10

Yeah, I I'm pretty sure it is a movie. Really?

SPEAKER_08 1:12:12

I feel like no, that would be I mean would you can would you conspire with your your sibling to ask them how they felt?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:22

Well, this is a hard one because when I was younger when I was younger, um, I dated my stepsisters uh ex-boyfriend.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:39

Okay. Stepsisters, that doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:42

Yeah, but we were very close. My stepsister on my dad's side.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

And you know, I lived there for a while, you know, my my story. Um, we were very, very close. Um, and yeah, I dated him for a little bit, but I never slept with him.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:57

Because I was young. Matt's looking at his.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:59

Yeah, I know, because we're at like an hour and 15 minutes now. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, we're wrapping up, yeah. We are.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:05

Well, we're gonna try to do pet peeves. Yeah, we can get it.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:07

Yeah, very quick. Let's let's do this.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:10

They're grumpy, they're gay, they've got something to say. From traffic use, the groups, they'll bitch it all the way. Game and Max Pet peeves!

SPEAKER_04 1:13:20

All right, grumpy, away you go. You're always a grumpy one. I know, so right, okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:25

First one for me this week is people not indicating when you approach traffic lights or you know, junctions or roundabouts on the roads.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:36

Okay. So roundabouts don't need an indicator. Why? Because I said so.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:42

All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:43

No, if you're going straight through, they don't need an indicator. No, I get that. I'm not a fan, and I get the rules, and my sister Donna will tell you because she's part of it. Yeah, she's getting ready to do her driver school, um, learner, boss, lady, whatever it is, course. So she'll be reading all the rules and tell you what.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:02

What I'm saying is when you've got a longer queue of cars coming and someone's coming towards you, and you've got to give weight to them naturally, and you think they're gonna go that way and they don't, they cut either continue going around.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:13

Indicating in general pisses me off. They people should do it. Like I've got a friend, Nerita, who that's her biggest fucking Nerita, her bit uh my old next neighbor, her biggest pet peeve is literally people indicating, right? She very rarely posts on Facebook, but when she does, it's about that generally. That'll be not indicating, you mean it all. Not indicating, not indicating, yeah. People being mischievous. But it is a nightmare. It is a nightmare.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:37

Especially when you're great, but I'm not gonna be a Karen about it. No, you guys, you two are like cranky old men, cranky old rogue. Yeah, you're rogue Nazis.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:47

Like, yeah, he's he's the worst. I am he sits it, but like he'll sit if somebody doesn't indicate, just fucking indicate, will you?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:55

And it's like, well, that's just mild, that's very relaxed.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:58

I'll tell you, my tolerance on the road has gone from zero to fucking 100 now. Have you well?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:03

I can't talk because I was coming up Castle Road Road the other day, and I had Ashie in the back in his car seat, and we're at the roundabout, and all of a sudden he just yells out at the big roundabout near Buddings. Just go, you dickhead. And he sort of cast it out the back. And I said, Ashton. And I turned around and looked at him and he's like smiling at me because you know he's you guys know he's the cheekyest little thing. He's adorable, and I'm like, and he's looking at me with his like little light eyes and his little blonde hair and this cheeky look. I said, Bubba don't and I was trying not to laugh. I'm like, baby, don't say that. And he goes, Why? You say it. So I was like, oh He ain't wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:43

He ain't wrong. But this is the thing is why weren't you videoing that could have got viral for us? Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:49

I could have so many viral moments.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:50

Well just tape him constantly, alright? So if you've got a pet peeve.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:58

Sorry, my my phone watch went off and I got distracted because it's bunny XO. Love me, that Bunny XO lover.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:06

Okay, no.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:07

No, I I don't think I you go, Matt, because I don't think I really have a pet peeve. Other than people being grumpy and pretending, and this isn't at you this time, I promise you. It is not. Okay, it's at my husband.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:18

Being grumpy but saying they're not grumpy.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:21

And having that whole negative energy.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:23

Is this because you're telling him he's grumpy?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:25

No, when you're walking around the house with that negative energy, like you know there's something wrong, and it's like they're not talking, and you can feel that, and you're like, what's wrong? Nothing, I'm fine. It's like, well, you're clearly fucking not.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:38

So tell me what's the problem? People are scared of you, right? Dave was scared of you earlier. Why? So I get it, because you're fucking scared. I'm very scary, I'm lovely. You are. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, miss.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:50

Um I am not scared. I'm scary.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:54

I said, I'm sorry, miss. Um, yeah. Um, yeah, no, you're not scary, but I get yeah, but I get that when you because somebody over the side of the table there as well says that I'm grumpy, and I go, no, I'm just actually just chilling for a moment. I just like I'm not under So my Pep P for this week. I've only got one. Oh right. And today in Sydney, what was the weather?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:19

42 or something.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:20

Alright. Guess what? Every single human on the planet knew it. I don't know why every single human on the planet needed to post about it on their social media. Guess what? We've all in the same fucking place. It's 42 degrees. It's not like the hottest day we've ever had either. No, everyone was posting, and I'm sitting there going, yeah, we get it. It's hot. Like, is it really worthy of a social media?

SPEAKER_08 1:17:41

And I guarantee you in three months' time it'll be fuck, I'm fucking freezing. I'm fucking freezy.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:45

Yeah, like I don't think it's worthy, worthy of a social media post. I just sit there and it's the weather. Like, it's just like so boring and it's so shit. And like, if you're going to taste photos, post photos of things saying it's hot, like, take photos of hot shirtless guys to go, I love the hot weather because this happens, right? Then I'm down for it, right? But otherwise, I don't need to know your fucking shirtless, fucking cranky ass fucking no your fucking hot weather forecast fucking cunts. Oh wow, I don't know, right.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:19

Go, Dave. Okay, my.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:20

Because I know you've got another.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:23

I'll just do one more. Okay, okay. Um, what about when you go to a sale and it says sale, and you're gonna go and buy something, say, a pair of shoes, because they say they got these shoes for whatever price, and then you go and look in the shop and they got none of your fucking size in any fucking shoe possible. Okay, that's a fucking pee because that pee is being on.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:43

Pissed you off this week, Dave.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:45

Well, not any particular shoe shop, but just when you go to a sale and there's like says sale, and they've got every fucking other bloody size apart.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:53

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:54

Well, you know, you've got nothing, and you go and find another pair and the same fucking thing happens.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:57

You go up a size and you just wear so extra socks. No, you do not do that. No, you do not.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:02

Does that piss you off a little bit when you go to it?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:03

It does, and it annoys the shit out of me. The same with if I find a shirt that I really like, right? And I go to put it on because it's my size and it doesn't fit, right? And then I go, all right, well, give me the next size up or the next size down, whichever way, and they don't have it. I said they go, Well, you've got my size. Check the website, check everything, and your fucking fittings are wrong. But yeah, so that's annoying. I get you.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:27

But you two really are grumpy or man.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:30

That's what we're doing.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:30

But what about on the opposite end of that, Dave, where those stores that always have the closing down sale signs, but and never like they never shut. It's like they've got he used that last week. Did you I didn't know? Sorry, I haven't looked at no, but there you're right, both. Like the one in the plaza, the homeware store. Is that the one in the homeware store? That homeware store in the pla in the Westfield, sorry. Has been closed. That has been closing for about five years.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:59

I got Here, right, 20 years ago, and the same fucking sign has been up for 20 fucking years. How? And you know what? Even for COVID, they got three fucking.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:07

Here is my pet peeve. If that was a major retailer, oh, we'd be hung out to dry. They would be hung out to dry. The ACCC would have been all over that shit. They would have been paying millions and millions and millions of dollars. But then there's like these guys who can just like con every old granny on a walker that walks past that oh here get this for 40% off. It's $349, normally $800.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:34

I said to Dave, I said, you can go and came out and buy it for $15. I'm so glad you call it out because we said the same one last week. Oh my god, I didn't realise.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:42

No, no, but it's it's true though. It's facts, it's facts. It's at one shop. One shop.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:46

And like I said, it's been there for 20 years because I know when we first came here from overseas, it had sales signs up there, right? And then I every we have a joke we say, how many fucking sales and it's long.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:58

Yeah, it it still has closing down, doesn't it? It's been closing down for years.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:01

Yeah, yeah. There you go. Okay. All right. Um, that's been us for this week. Um, that's a nice long lesson, but I think it's been fun. It has been fun. I loved it. And the girls will finally come up, they're going, come on, dads, and they're here to see me. We know they love you. We know they were going wild at the door when she came. She didn't. Yeah. Because I might have been I might have been micro-nappy.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:22

Um, but yeah, I was knocking and knocking. Oh. And the girls were going nuts. That's why I let myself in. The door was unlocked. And he didn't even get up. I even knocked on the window, Dave. I had to ring him and be like, Are you home?

SPEAKER_07 1:21:33

Well, he didn't even ring me to say you got here.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:36

Oh, that's that's contradictory. Anyway, I should just end this button, all right. Anyway, I've been Matt. I've been Dave.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:42

And I'm Miami.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:43

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