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Ep 33 - Empowering Nonprofits Through Creativity: A Special Episode with Visuals by Momo
In this heartwarming Christmas Bonus episode of The Angry Biller podcast, host Josh Fertel of J3RCM Medical Billing sits down with Chris Baker and Momo Abdellatif from Visuals by Momo. Recorded in the Visuals by Momo studio, this inspiring conversation delves into their journey of building a creative visual production company that focuses on empowering nonprofits.
Discover how Chris transitioned from a career in legal administration to finding his creative passion alongside Momo, a lifelong artist turned filmmaker. Learn about their mission to craft authentic, emotional storytelling for nonprofits, how they’ve helped organizations like Hands On South Florida and ArtServe, and their innovative fundraising initiatives like Scrabble Networking and Headshots for Nonprofits.
Together, they discuss the challenges nonprofits face, including budget constraints, and how Visuals by Momo is finding creative solutions to make impactful storytelling accessible to all. If you’re passionate about community impact, creativity, and storytelling, this episode will inspire you to think differently about how nonprofits and businesses can collaborate for a greater good.
Show Notes:
- Host and Guests:
- Host: Josh Fertel, Owner of J3RCM Medical Billing (The Angry Biller)
- Guests: Chris Baker and Momo Abdellatif from Visuals by Momo
- Highlights:
- Chris’s transition from the legal industry to creative storytelling.
- Momo’s lifelong journey as an artist and his passion for filmmaking.
- Their mission to empower nonprofits through emotional, impactful visual storytelling.
- Behind-the-scenes stories of impactful projects, like Hands On South Florida's Parkland Hearts initiative.
- Challenges nonprofits face with video production and how Visuals by Momo addresses them creatively.
- Fundraising success stories, including Scrabble Networking and Headshots for Nonprofits.
- Key Takeaways:
- The power of visual storytelling to drive nonprofit missions.
- Unique approaches to blending creativity and impact for nonprofits.
- How community events like Scrabble Networking can amplify engagement and fundraising.
- Follow and Connect:
- Visit The Angry Biller: www.theangrybiller.com
- Learn more about Visuals by Momo: Visuals by Momo
- Follow Visuals by Momo on social media: Facebook, LinkedIn
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Welcome to The Angry Builder, a show where we explore the people in the businesses behind the scenes of health care. Those men and women that are the catalysts that allow providers to concentrate on delivering exceptional patient care. Welcome to the Angry Biller. My name is Josh Fertel. I am the owner of J3 Medical Billing and your host. We are at the Visuals by Momo Studio today, and we have a very special show today because we have Momo and we have Chris from Visuals by Momo, who have produced this podcast.
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And I wanted everybody to get to meet these guys because of what the work that they do and how they help nonprofits. And we've we featured some nonprofits on the show before. It's a it's very important work that they're doing. So I really wanted everybody to really get to know him. Hello, gentlemen. Hello. Good morning. So, just like anybody else, let's start from the beginning.
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Tell us, tell us your backgrounds. Tell us how you got to where you are. Oh, that's a great question. So. But you knew it was coming because you every so. Well for where I came from. I'm from Minnesota. Okay. And so, you know, I'm used to the cold and used to a lot of different, people up there.
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And we, we, we have a different kind of mentality, a different kind of structure. But for the majority of my life, for 16 years, I actually was working in the legal area. So I was a legal secretary. I did some project management, did some billing and did some of my work. All through different law firms. I kind of touched a little bit.
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So that's kind of where I started. And at the end of 2021, I realized that I was just kind of didn't want to be behind the desk anymore. Got it. And I was like, I miss being around people like, I don't want to be pushing papers anymore. I want to be filling all of this out until I get it.
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And I also had always wanted to live next to the ocean. Okay. So we we we discussed there was some, you know, different things that happened in our lives. And we're like, life is too short. We need to start living ashore. So we moved to Florida, and that's how we started here. Okay. And I wanted to get a little creative.
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Yeah. Momo, on the other hand, has been creative his entire life. But for me, I missed the creative element in the creative style. So that's kind of where it all came from. And then, you know, we we started visuals by Momo here specifically. Yes, yes. And Momo, tell us about you.
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As Chris mentioned. Sorry, as Chris mentioned, I've been, creative all of my life. So we're going to go back when I was born. Okay. We started the story from there. Start the story there. So, when I was studying, I always, found myself sketching in my books. I don't really study. I just draw things and doodle.
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Yeah. And sketch. So my family and my parents have seen this. The all of my books, all of my notebooks, just sketches and drawing and blah, blah. So they decided that it's it's going to be good for me to study, art. Oh, right. Nice. And the Middle East. I go to college, which is five years studying art.
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Okay. And I applied, and it was good experience. I never thought I will be behind the camera. I was, joining the college or art college to be an artist, like painting or, Right. Right, right. Yeah. Then, I saw about. Let's do something different. Okay. And I looked around, what, departments we have, that's college.
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Okay. And I found this filmmaking, department, like, was very interesting to me at the beginning. I did not think art at all, right? I thought it's just, Physics and science and lenses, you know, and using tools that is really no art. Okay. Until I did study some of it, and I found word of the arts.
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And since then, I'm behind the camera. I'm really passionate about being behind the camera. It's my comfort place. Telling stories is the best.
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Right? So when. What art did you see it in it?
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Oh, wow. So the art here is how to use the tools you have, okay. To bring your vision to life. Got it. That's an art. And how to translate your feelings and emotions and words to a vision. And, like actual products.
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Got it. Yeah, that's that's something I've never had. I've never had the that where I could say this is looks good. I so I commend you for having that gene in you that I don't have it.
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Thank you. It is.
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I don't. So so visuals by MoMA. Let's talk about the beginning. Well, the beginning actually started in Minnesota September of 2021. Okay. Did a couple small, small projects. Right. And it was going to just be his thing. I was already working. You know, the law firm, and everything was going fine. But then when we finally switched, it was like, okay, we're going to come down here, okay?
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And I was kind of looking. I was looking at a established business. I was going to potentially buy an established business, okay, to begin with because I was like, all right, I'll do that. You already started visuals by man, what up in Minnesota? So why don't you just continue that or get it set up here? Right. That'll be your business.
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And then I will work on another area. Right. Well, by the time I got done looking into in all the other things there, I see red flags. And I was just like, okay, I got to walk away from this one and I was like, okay, I could go try to look for another established business, right? But I literally was like, why don't I work with Momo and build something bigger and faster?
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Because honestly, two people working on something is better than 100%. And so, yeah, that was 2022 when we had moved down here in January. But by March of 2022, we started networking and we started growing the business. Okay. And we've been moving in ever since. Okay. So I want to go back to what was the first project that you did.
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Where here.
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For first one, the first visuals by Momo Stamp went on.
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Was the wedding.
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Yeah, that was Christy and Ian's wedding. Yes, that was here. That was in May.
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That was in Minnesota. And it was just small, wedding. And I just went there by my camera and phone to take some photos and videos. Just a little one was the other people that.
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Friends of yours or.
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Their friends of.
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Her. Really? A friend of mine? Yeah. Right from the phone. And they approached you or.
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Yes, I don't remember. I asked her of this. I don't know how we approached each other or who did what I remember now. Yeah, I'm here. The things I'm like.
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And how and how was that.
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Experience? It was interesting to me because it was my first wedding in the US, and I really don't know how it's how it goes here. I think the wedding goes here. Yeah, right. That's right. It's different. The Middle East or here. Right? Yeah. Right. Sure. So I went there trying to understand everything what's going on. And that's just a little, little clip for them.
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And then the feedback I got after a couple days that the bride texting us saying that her mom was not able to, make it to the wedding. Okay. And they when they sent her the video, she just cried. And it was like, there, right. So the message her that I really captured the day. Right. And was, I think success for me when I, I hate to say it, but it's true.
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When I make people cry or get feelings, it could be cry. It could be fun or happiness. Yeah, but most of the time is crying. I don't know why. Yeah. It's good. I, I just see this as a success.
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See, my next question was be what did you take away from it? But you just answer that okay. So that's but that's great because that now you're on your path, right now you're on your path, now you feel it visuals by moment. What is your mission? Our mission is to empower nonprofits by getting their message out to the community.
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Okay. That is the most important piece. Okay. Taking their mission, put it into a story format, right? Being emotional and creative, okay. Showing their passion.
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And real and authentic at the same time.
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Yes. It's taking all of their organization. Okay. And trying to put it into a very small short video. And that like even when we say short that know a couple minutes. Because honestly, if we were to tell the life story of somebody, it's not going to be in two minutes. It's going to be real. You're right. That's what we're trying to do.
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We're we're understanding the nonprofit, their mission, who their target audience is, what their what they're about. Right. And all of those pieces take time to build the story, to put something beautiful together. And then it's capturing it. Okay. And then it's, you know, editing it, which is where the real magic, where Momo calls it the magic.
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It's not me. It's all like the the media and filmmaking we call the editing the magic.
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Yes. Where did this passion for nonprofits come from?
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Good question.
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Oh, so in 2023? January of 2023. Last year, we got introduced to a company called Hands on Broward at the Hands on Broward. And now it's hands on South Florida.
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Okay, that's because he's that passionate about nonprofits in general since like, all his life.
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Yeah, I was trying to find a way to build a nonprofit myself. Okay. For the past six years, it was 2018 was when I first had the idea. Okay. We ran into, Cristina de Silva. Okay, from hands on South Florida, and they were working on a project. They wanted to capture it. And the project that was called is Parkland Hearts.
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Okay. And so we did a four video series. There were three different project sites. Okay. And the whole whole entire project was about the shooting that happened in parkland in 2018. Gotcha. And so we really were we didn't know because we're from Minnesota. You weren't you weren't from Minnesota, right? You weren't here. You weren't here. We didn't get to experience it.
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We didn't get to feel it the way this community felt. It. Right. And when we were working on the project and capturing it, we could see the love, the dedication, the heart of the organization and what they believed in. And when Christina said they're 17 names. Yes. That was the first video. And we literally was like, oh my gosh, Ryan is so impactful, so beautiful that they keep their memory alive every year right through this project.
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And we got to capture it. Okay. And then we captured the next project, and then we captured the last project. And I actually skipped going on a cruise to capture the last project because I thought it was so important for the same organization, for the same organization. So, because we had only contracted with them for the two first project, because we had already said that.
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But I said, you know what? No, I'm not going. I'm going to go capture that one. Can I ask what the other subsequent projects were? Yeah. So the first one was at Fruitful Fields, if I remember correctly, and they were, they were planting and kind of like pulling up the weeds. So they were restructuring this entire like, garden, right area.
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Right, and building desks and doing like, yeah, they.
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Yeah, they built like, picnic tables and a few other things out there. Okay. And so that was the first project and that was an honor. And then the next project was at a school. Right. And then they were painting murals and they were building an outdoor classroom. Yes. And the last one was at a different school as well.
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Right. And so they were doing similar stuff. They're painting murals, they were repainting entire courts, and they just had this an amazing space that they could utilize and work with. And they gave another organization like, stand with, I think it stands with parkland. And they gave them a $5,000 check at the end of these projects. Right. And so they were really able to really give back to the community.
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And so then the for the video, right, was an entire combination of all three of the projects in one and just telling the overlying story. And so every project that we do, we we want a narrative, right. So somebody has to talk. Somebody has to speak. Right. So we personalize. It has to be personalized. So so a from from your side.
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What was your vision for these shoots. You know what. What did you see or how did your artistry come into play.
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What question. So I didn't as we mentioned I didn't know you didn't I didn't know enough or much before. I already on site filming. So in those cases there's hundreds, millions unlimited options I have in the camera and lights and angles and lenses and everything to be able to transfer the feelings or capturing the feelings. But in this case, I'm not ready to do that.
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I didn't think about it, so I just feel it and receive the vision and just make it happen on onsite. It was my vision was, from absorbing the energy around me on from everyone. And how's your talking and what you're saying? And how's your acting? And I just give those energy and, right. Work.
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Do you know what the results were from your project? Do you know what happened afterwards? If you know a little bit more of that one, go ahead.
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All I know. And that's what really made me feel, good again, everyone says every time we watch those videos, we cry, right? It was like, oh, okay. So I was able to transfer the emotions and I just felt good. And so, like, there is a message, there's, impacts we are making. Right. And from there, I just love that.
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So I know that one of the other pieces is I actually grew even more passionate about what they were doing, and I joined their board. Oh, nice. So I'm on the excellent, I'm on their board, hands on South Florida. Okay. And I know that the videos or something that they can use, right, to give to potential donors.
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Right. Give to sponsors to showcase what they're doing in the community. Yes. And that is one of the biggest things, because that's where the money can really make an impact. When you're when you're filming the video or scripting the video, is there a call to action in the video for donors, or is it something that they do after?
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Or they're just for any nonprofit? They're always should be some type of call to action, unless it's just a like branding video. Like you're just telling you about the company, right? About what you're doing. In this one, in this case, it was more they were talking about their project. Gotcha. So there wasn't as big of a call to action, but you could feel right, the action that you needed to do to either volunteer to give back, be a part of the process.
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You want to be involved? Yeah. The, did that experience lead to other experiences from that directly? Yes. Tell me so after that. So by the time that we got done adding that was middle of February because we were trying to make sure everyone on the right 20. Yeah. 2023. We're trying to get it done before the day of remembrance.
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April 14th. April. February 14th. Right. Sorry. Yeah. Valentine's day, Valentine's day. Right. And so that was our goal to get all the videos edited and back to them so that they could play it at their the memorial that they're holding that day. Right. And from that, one of the beautiful things, as Christina was able to introduce me to many other nonprofits, I got introduced to the Social Impact Council at the chamber mass, and that propelled us in the direction.
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Okay, Christina was kind enough to even when she was doing a presentation at the chamber. Right. You know, show the video, talk about us. Because there was so much impact. And, you know, we were able to capture the story of the way that they wanted it. Right? And we did it in a way that was respectful.
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Yes. Of the families, because that was the biggest and hardest thing that we had to try to do as well, because when you're dealing with someone else's story, it's we have to take that into consideration, and we want to make sure that it was done in a beautiful way, that it's going to remember them and honor them, and not take away anything.
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So that was that was hard. But it was also something that we really appreciate it. Since then we worked with the United Way, we worked with Baltic Kids, we worked with Pace Center for girls. We have worked with over 33 nonprofits. Right in the year and a half that we've been focusing on. Really good for you. Yes, good for you.
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And I'm assuming it's basically just word of mouth right now. Are they telling each other? Most of them? Is word of mouth. Okay. There is definitely been some contact that I'm I'm doing it just my networking. Okay. So I'm finding them, we're reaching out to them and they're talking about us, but I think it's growing. And that's the thing.
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Like, I don't know any other production company that specifically working only to help nonprofits, most people are working for for profit or. Right. And then they'll do a little bit here and there. But we're trying to change that. Like we want to be the go to. We may not be the right fit, right, and that's fine. But we want to be able to give answers.
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We want to give solutions. We want to give ideas, resources.
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Yeah, yeah. If we don't have.
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So to that point.
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What are the challenges you're facing when you're.
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Concentrating on nonprofits as compared to for process? Well, they do have a budget concern. So they're you know, they're working on a minimum budget. Right. And so when we look at a bigger project and we see something that could be amazing, right, we're going to come in and go look at this and go, okay, this is the line items for this project that we would love to see in the the perfect video for you.
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I'm just we go with that to start. Right. And then they usually come back. Oh that's out of budget right. So then we tweak it okay. And so that takes a little bit longer. So that's probably one of the biggest ones is the time. It's that proposal piece takes a little bit more time and effort. Right. But we understand and we're willing to work with the nonprofit to make it work.
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It may not be the final project that Momo's envisioning, okay, but it's going to get very close. Gotcha.
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And for for bigger projects. So for bigger projects, we sometimes help the nonprofit to raise funds, okay. Just to work on the project. So toes, tell me about that. How do you do that with a couple different? We have a couple different ways. You give me.
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A great success story. All right. So the the top two, nonprofit initiatives that we have right now and we're always willing to look at more. Right. Right now we have headshots for nonprofit headshots for nonprofit galas. So we're tweaking it a little bit. We were able to give a check to Lesbian Thespians, which was our first okay nonprofit that we worked this project with.
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Okay. So basically, we chose a day. Okay. We'll open up the entire day for headshots. Okay. I've got over comes in that day. Part of the proceeds go to that nonprofit. So that's the first one and that's a little bit simple. Got it. And then the second one that we have had to build up some traction first. Okay.
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But we had an amazing success for Scrabble networking. Oh we have turned that into a, nonprofit, fundraiser. And so we were able to raise $750 on October 1st. Nice for art serve nice. And that was the start of something new. We've already gotten nonprofits contacting us, going, hey, when can we do something similar? Right. And that's great because one, we want to get either a their name out into the community, which if we're we're doing it and we're pushing their name on the community, that's engagement.
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Yes. And if we can raise a little bit of money for them as well. Yes. Even better. So headshots I understand. But that's not just necessarily nonprofits going for headshots. That's anybody coming for a headshot. Yeah, it's anybody not for the nonprofit people. It's it's for the anybody. It's worthy. But some of the business owners need a new headshot every couple of years.
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Okay. And then part of those proceeds go to the nonprofit. Correct. Okay. So the Scrabble I don't understand that. What it tell tell me more about that. Yeah. So when it started, we just I wanted to create a networking event that we could start having here at our studio space within our turf. Okay. And so we have a small little space in the members gallery, so it's what it's called that we can use on occasion.
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Right. And we started hosting a couple events there. We brought in some other people because what I've realized is if you have three people inviting people, right, event, you're going to need different people because you're going to need their people.
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At different.
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Time. Correct. So three different nonprofits?
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No, sorry, three different companies.
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So this was all just about who's my circle okay. So Maria Medina okay. Business coach. Right. Melinda Melinda Tully Bryant from K 12. Bryant creative. Yes. And ourselves was the first one back in April of this year. Got it. And so we brought in she brought about ten, you know what about 8 to 10 people? I brought about 6 to 8 people.
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And Maria had like 6 to 8 people or whatever. The combination was. And so we were all get getting together. We got to meet new people, right. And it just turned into a fun night of just, you know, having fun trying to build out, like, words with these letters for Scrabble. How was it that you were a Scrabble partner?
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Yeah. So everybody, it's a game night.
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We just play a game. That's that's the idea. We have fun.
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That's, That that that's, That's excellent. So now, is it the same three people invited or do you have more people inviting? So it evolved. Oh, did so the next, event, which was actually held in June. Okay. We it was May, we kind of took off, but June Alexis from leverages digital marketing. Okay. Said, hey, I like to kind of help I want to sponsor and I'll bring some wine.
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Okay. Great. So it turned into him, myself and Mary. Okay. And all three of us were the sponsors for that. Got that right then. Really good friend Johnny. Okay came and it was like, yeah, I'm going to bring food next time because he's a caterer. He's a caterer. I think he was like, this isn't going to work.
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I was like, yeah, I understand if it's not the best spread, it's not a good spreader. And it was if laughable. Now, like looking back. Right. And so that was he, he came in June and he was like, I want to help. I want to figure out how. And so then we figured out how to incorporate him.
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And then from July, August, July, August and November. So we didn't have one in September. Did we know? Yeah. So Johnny has been catering all three of those. Alexis has been a part of bringing the wine for the next.
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We have since second one.
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Since the second one. Okay. So all three of us have been, you know, working to make this a really, really good event. Got, the other benefit, okay, is we're having a here at Arts Serve. People can come to our studio. Right.
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That's my little.
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Studio. They can see this.
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I always fill the whole event. And we bring people to the studio so they can see the studio. And they also can tell feedback about the event. And feedback, for the sponsors and about the sponsors. So we give them also shout out and more exposure. Right. And when people see this, it's fun. And exposure.
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Yes.
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Food. Good food, good wine. What else.
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And so how do oh yeah. You said you raised $750. Where did that come from? Of it though there was an entry fee, entry donation and a handwritten. Yes. And there you go. So yeah, we have we have added a price to it. The first few were free. Okay. And now we are adding a price so that we can get that money directly to the nonprofit.
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Okay. And then we also have added a couple extra sponsor slots.
00;25;44;17 - 00;25;47;20
Oh this last one was six sponsors, right?
00;25;47;22 - 00;26;16;02
Yes. So the last event that we had at the beginning of October, October 1st, we had a total of six sponsors and one of them had a got a table. The other two were just wanted their logo on the advertisement. And they got to, you know, come and enjoy the event as well. Right. But we have other opportunities where depending on the sponsor level, yes, you actually get to have videos created by us and we're going to do it for free.
00;26;16;04 - 00;26;39;27
Okay. But that money is still going back to the nonprofit. Whoever working with. Gotcha, gotcha. And so that is going to be very beneficial for any for half a business. Are you going to rotate the nonprofits that benefit from this? Grab them? Yeah, it's so right now we definitely have several, extra dates here on the books for us here at Arcserve.
00;26;39;29 - 00;26;57;01
Okay. But I've already been talking to heart to heart. Okay. About another event. We had them on the podcast. Yes, we had them all about cars. Yes. About another event, potentially at the beginning of next year. And so we're going to figure out if you know where the space will be, right, and going from there. But it's not exclusive to Arcserve, right.
00;26;57;08 - 00;27;24;27
It's beneficial for us to have it also because of our studios here and expo exposure for both our server and us. But it's not exclusive. So we're going to keep spreading it, bringing it out and we might I mean, I hosted a different places. I'm moving forward so that more people can the bigger you know, you might really so when let's say heart to heart in coming up, what what are you asking for them from them as far as a commitment.
00;27;24;27 - 00;27;40;23
Because, you know, there's a zillion nonprofits that you can be doing this work for that you are doing work for. Is there a commitment that you're asking for somebody like, we're going to sponsor this for you? Here's what we need from you. Ideally, you know, have them bring some of the people, okay. You know, they have a board, right?
00;27;40;24 - 00;28;02;06
They have people that are donating. And hopefully some of them are businesses as well. Get them included into the event. Right. A lot of their, you know, a lot of the people they're working with, they might need the headshots. So they might be the ones that would come out and get the headshots. They're benefiting from that. And then the nonprofits still benefiting from the process proceeds.
00;28;02;06 - 00;28;09;13
So I would imagine someone that's on the board of a nonprofit is probably on the board of another nonprofit, one or something. Yeah. So that that gives, more.
00;28;09;13 - 00;28;11;23
Than benefit another organization.
00;28;11;23 - 00;28;24;01
Yes. That's right. Yeah. I would love to continue this conversation another time. Right. So we can add on a lot more questions for you. Thank you for listening today. Please follow us on Facebook and LinkedIn. And you can check us out at www.theangrybiller.com.