Your Disney Trip Is Gonna Suck With A Notes Of Adventure

You post a Disney itinerary because you’re excited, and suddenly the comments act like you’ve committed a crime against theme parks. We lean into that chaos and break down the most common “your Disney trip is going to suck” takes the internet throws at people, especially in Facebook groups where everyone somehow knows the one true way to do Walt Disney World and Disneyland.

We start with the easy targets: where you stay and how you get around. Value resorts, moderates, deluxe hotels, and even staying off-site all get dragged for different reasons, even though each option can be the perfect fit depending on budget, group size, and what you actually want from a vacation. Then we hit itineraries and gatekeeping, from “two park days isn’t a real trip” to “you must visit every park,” plus the debate over Disney Springs, pool days, and how much downtime is “allowed.”

From there we get into the choices people love to judge the most: dining and spending. We talk table service vs quick service, the “that restaurant is terrible” reflex, and why meal planning depends on weather, walking, and your pace. We also dig into souvenirs, buying ahead on Amazon, Lightning Lane decisions like Genie+ and single passes, and paid extras like tours and ticketed parties. The through-line stays the same: plan your trip for your priorities, leave room to pivot, and stop asking strangers to approve your fun.

If you’ve ever been told your Disney plans are wrong, you’ll feel seen. Subscribe, share this with your favorite Disney planner, and leave a review with the single piece of advice you ignore every time.

Transcript

Trader Sam’s Drink And Vibes

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Today we're telling you why the internet is correct and your trip is really going to suck. We'll try the notes of adventure from Crater Stam's TV bar. Welcome to Tears to Gears.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

We'll talk to that too. From future land to the wild frontier. Disney talk on Tears Foods.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

Okay, we are back. We are back, and we're trying a Notes of Adventure today from Trader Sam's Tiki Bar at the Disneyland Hotel, and it's made with Tangare Gin, Passion Fruit, and Tropical Juice Blend, and it's $19 there.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

So we did two ounces. We ran out of our Bombay gin. We didn't have enough. So we went to the 1908 indigo gin, but we did two ounces of gin, one ounce of orgite syrup, one ounce of passion fruit syrup, three ounces of tropical fruit juice. It tastes very Disney. Yeah. It is very fruity. It looks very trader Sammy. There's uh the booze in it whatsoever. No, it's it's very good. But it's very good. It's not too. I was a little worried that it's a slightly yeah, slightly syrup.

SPEAKER_02 1:13

Yeah.

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If you don't like very fruity drinks that have no alcohol taste to them, this is not the drink for you. Right. But if you like, if you don't want tasty alcohol, you just want some fruitiness, there you go. Yeah. This is your drink. I like this drink. Yep. I would try it. This is the fruity drink I've been wanting to have because we got away from them for so long. And so we've been looking around for more fruity drinks. And they've still been alcohol forward, more cocktail-ish. Okay. And this, but this one, no. Right. This is Trader Sam's all the way.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

Totally. And to get in the mood for today's episode, yeah. Tell me why this drink sucks. It's too fruity. Yeah. It tastes way, there's too much puree in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Yeah. You got it, and you didn't. And you went to Trader Sam's, and that's just wrong. Right. That that sucks going there. Because it's not in the park. It's not in the park. You you have to wait to get in. A million reasons. It just sucks.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Right. And that's not the drink of notes of adventure. That's not one of their major drinks.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

You're going to get an OA or Krakatoa. Yeah. Yeah, one of those. The zombie.

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And there we

Why Sharing Plans Gets You Roasted

SPEAKER_02 2:29

go. We're set for today's episode because we're talking about crazy things the internet says to you when you tell the internet, you decide to go on the internet for some reason and tell them your itinerary or what you're going to do at the parks. Dumbest idea to do in the first place.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Facebook is right. Your Disney trip is going to suck. Right. So we went with that. And I we, of course, we came up with the topic. We didn't talk. In Cheers to Ears Fashion. In Cheers to Ears Fashion. Now, I broke mine up into different categories like you're staying in the wrong place, you're eating at the wrong place, you're buying the wrong souvenirs. I have mine broken up. You have yours a little different. Yours are comments that you've seen quite often. Right. And your response to those. Now, the caveat here. Okay. Have your trip however you want to have your trip. That's how this came up. That's how this came up. Because we are proponents of have your own trip that you will find fun. And don't announce it on the internet because somebody on Facebook is going to say that trip is going to suck. You need to do this. Right.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

Here's how I do it. Yeah. My idea is way better.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Yeah. I don't like that place. I don't like eating there. I don't like this. That's the worst place.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

And who would drink coffee at 4 p.m.? That's a stupid idea. Just ignore them. Yeah. Don't put your just don't put your trip on the internet.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Yeah.

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Unless you want to hear this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

You know, just say, oh, I'm so excited. I'm going for a week. And then and leave it at that.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Right. I really think people think they're going to post their trip, their itinerary, and everyone's going to say, that's fabulous. I win a copy of that. Yes. I'm doing that too. They think it's going to be a hundred percent. Everyone's going to love my trip because I'm going to post it on the internet. And if people knew how me and you do Disney, yeah. There would be lots of comments like, that's a stupid idea. That's a why do you do that? Where's your pool time? Yeah. Right? Yeah. A lot of that kind of stuff going on. Exactly. Right.

Resorts People Love To Trash

SPEAKER_02 4:20

So Okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Do you want to start? I guess you want me to go through all of the you're staying at the wrong place? Sure.

SPEAKER_02 4:26

So I have two, four, I have five or six questions and then answers.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

Okay. So just go through four first category.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

So All-Star sports, movies, music. You know, your trip is gonna suck because there's only bus transportation and it's so far away. Okay, so I've stayed at All-Star Sports. The bus transportation was fine. Right. They're actually their food location opened up a half an hour earlier than a lot of other locations, so you could get you could eat before you left. Yeah, that's a plus. And so far away. Okay, so instead of it taking 14 minutes for you to get to the park, it took you 20 to get to the fur to like Magic Kingdom. Okay. Oh no. Right. You know, that's six minutes. That's yeah. Hey, whatever. Stay at All Surf Sports. Save yourself a few bucks. So Pop Century and Art of Animation. Well, they've only got one food option. And the and the pool is really noisy. Those are all valid points. And yeah, those are true. They're true. But your trip isn't gonna suck if if you love staying at Pop Century and Art of Animation. Pop Century is my go-to. It is. And they have surprise other pools that are very quiet. So there you go. And the food, yeah, it sucks. But you're a skyliner right away from Riviera, Caribbean Beach, the boardwalk. Right. Yeah, you're fine. So Coronado Springs, Port Orleans, Caribbean Beach. They have that internal bus loop, and they're too far away. Again, they're too far away. Yeah, I man. These are my go-to's. These are great locations. The lobbies look great. The grounds look great. They have great pools. They have good places to eat, even great places to eat, and they're not too far away. And the internal bus loop wasn't a big deal. Right. We stayed at Coronado Springs, not a big deal. So there you go. Deluxe. Not worth the price for the benefits you're going to get. Well, you know what? If you got the money to pay for deluxe, pay for deluxe. You want to stay again?

SPEAKER_02 6:28

Stay where you want.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Yeah. People who say that staying at expensive places or doing expensive things, usually it's your income level is what determines whether that's worth it or that sucks. So if you got to go jam pop, cool, go jam pop. But I mean, if I could afford to go to deluxe hotels all the time, I would. Either at Disneyland Hotel or Grand California or what here, yeah, they're close.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

And just because you have money to stay at a deluxe doesn't mean that's how you want to spend your money to stay deluxe. Some people like just to stay at a hotel, like when we go, yeah. I like like I'm fine with the our gym pop trip. Yeah, I would do that again in a second to stay at a cheap hotel, cheapest I can find, because I just laid my head down there.

SPEAKER_01 7:11

I wasn't a big fan of that one just because it was a long walk. It was a mile to get back at the end of the night, which wasn't the end of the world. I mean, it's all flat walking on concrete, you know, the sidewalk. Not difficult in any means, but yeah, there's a there's a few others I'd rather take.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Totally. I'm just saying. Just it's not all about means, but it's about it's about what you want to do asleep in there. Some people go to the deluxe hotel and they can't really afford the deluxe deluxe day, but they want to feel that deluxe thing. Yeah. So they splurge. So they splurge. And they'll go into debt for it. Yeah. That's fine. That's if that's what you want to do, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

That's your call. And I, you know, I think deluxe, if you're getting those extended evening hours, or if they've got a great pool and put a pool day is in your purview of something you want to do, yeah. There you go. It's worth it. Okay, staying off site, and I was thinking more Disney World here, but because staying off site is completely valid at Disneyland.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Because honestly, half those, like right across the street, across Harbor Boulevard, are just as close as Disneyland Hotel and Pixar Pierre. Yeah, if not closer. So staying off site is going to waste your time and cause you to lose out on benefits. There's a lot like renting a whole big house because you have a big group and you rent an Airbnb. You know, there's reasons why you go. But Facebook is gonna tell you your idea sucks. Would I stay off site even if I were in a big group? No, that's not my thing.

SPEAKER_02 8:35

And if you want to stay at an Airbnb, I know a great Airbnb. It's a there's a seven bedroom and a 15-bedroom we have in Orlando for your entire family. I can get you a special discount for that. Really? At aaron.bestar vacations at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

15 bedroom.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

Yeah, they're it's awesome. Wow. Very Disney.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Cool. So anyway, that's my look is right. Your Disney trip is gonna suck when it cause you're staying at the wrong place. Someone's gonna have someone is going to complain about every hotel. Totally. Yep. Totally.

SPEAKER_02 9:07

Ignore them, take care of it. Ignore them, ignore them.

Park Days And “Real Trip” Gatekeeping

SPEAKER_02 9:10

Okay. My first one to ignore is this is the one that started it all. Okay. I'm going to Disney World with two park days and five resort days. I'm going to seven days and only two park days. Right. And here's my itinerary. It's like Magic Kingdom, rest day, rest day, Epcot, rest day, rest day. Something like that, right? Yeah. And there's lots of pool days, lots of sit-down restaurants, lots of Disney Springs. Right, lots of Disney Springs, lots of shopping, and then this person got through just slaughtered on the internet for this. There's no no reason to ever go to Disney World and just do two park days, beada yada, blah, blah, blah. And that's where I thought that's crazy, because that's what people say was not enough park days. Disney Springs is not worth going to at all. I don't like Disney Springs. The you're not a big Disney Springs fan.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Not really.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

But you don't love the shopping. Shopping's not your Disney.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

Now there are great restaurants there.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

But right, you go to a restaurant and you leave.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Yeah. I'll walk around once for a few hours, but I'm good, like two hours, maybe three hours total. Disney Springs and of on the whole trip.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

And I never need to go back. But there are some people, it's multiple times they want to go. And that's cool. I could go multiple times. You could.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

I love looking in the shops.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

I can look at every item in every shop. And be fine. It's like Disney shops. Some of those shops I don't care about.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Right.

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Looking at coach bags.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Right. Not usually. I like a coach bag though. Do you? Yeah. Ask ask Christy how great of a coach bag shopper I am. I'm a great person. Okay. It's one of my great things. And then the other thing they said people say is you have to visit each park, or it's not actually a real trip to Disney World. Yeah. And the response is we go multiple times a year. We can skip some parks sometimes. We go three or four times a year to Disney World. Right. Yeah. We can we don't have to go to every park every time. We wanted to hit Magic Kingdom to Epcot this time, and we haven't tried a bunch of restaurants.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

The only reason I would hit every park is because we're flying Kitty Corner, one corner of the country to the other corner of the country. Right.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

I'm not going and just going to two parks.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

I would feel like but I have. But if you no, I have. Because I went to two parks.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Yeah. Now, if you're flying from Cal North Carolina, South Carolina, something like that, or flying down from Atlanta, yeah, that'd be real easy to just fly down Friday night, go to a couple parks, and fly back Monday morning or something like that. We do that with California. And when we did it, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:35

We did it. It wasn't Disney World wasn't our vacation. It was a Florida coast trip. Yeah. And we just stopped by Disney World for Animal Kingdom and Epcot.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

It was kind of a yeah, and other things involved.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

Right. Yeah. Perfect. Perfect. Yeah, that's that's my first question and answer. You want to do another one? I can do another one. Wait a minute. Let me have. How many do you have?

SPEAKER_01 11:52

I have five categories.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Also, you do another one because I have five questions. Two. Okay.

Food Hot Takes And Table Service Time

SPEAKER_01 11:56

Yeah. You're eating at the wrong place. The food is too heavy for the amount of activity. So yeah, you're gonna you shouldn't eat that big meal if you're gonna be walking around in the hot sun and all that. It's like yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

Yeah, and like everything you're saying, there's some truth involved. There is. But it's but maybe you want to have a big meal. Yeah. And you want to, you don't care how fast you walk around Magic Kingdom that day.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

Yeah. So I did with when I took Leah, we went to Liberty Tree Tavern because I'd always wanted to try that place. Huge meal. We ate at three in the afternoon, and it was perfect because we had like a light breakfast. We had that one big meal, and we might have grabbed a snack like at eight or nine o'clock. And we were good all day. And it wasn't so that like we couldn't function walking around. It was in late April, I think, is when we went. But yeah, food is too heavy. Food's too heavy. Your trip is gonna suck. You're wasting all of your time at table service and it's overpriced. And these are the people who just like quick service and want to eat and go. Eat and go. Nothing wrong with that. I'm more of a I like trying a table service a little bit more than you. You're good with just the I am good, but I like a table service. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

So I just like me personally, I have to mentally plan for the table service. You have to make a day. I had to say, okay, we're going at noon. Here's what I want to do. And I have to mentally plan around it. I still get my full park day in there.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

And I agree with that. Yeah. Totally. And usually I don't plan a table service on a park day, but I will definitely be planning table service on open days.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

Right, but we need to, we still need some there's some table services we need to try in the parks. Yeah. This is we have not. Yeah. Like an Animal Kingdom. Sheeky Psy. I want to try that. There's some stuff in Magic Kingdom, I think, we haven't tried yet. Yeah. That we really want to try. And of course, Hollywood Studios.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

I'm trying to think of oh, like Hollywood and Vine and uh Brown Derby.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

Yeah. And the one I want to try that you don't really want to try so much is the 50s primetime cafe.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

Oh, uh yeah, I was that's the Hollywood and Vine that I was thinking of. 50s prime yeah, yeah. We'll go we'll go. I'll get you to go. Yeah, eventually. Yeah. And that's the thing, is I'll try anything once. I mean, we did sci-fi drive-in, dine in, whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

And I do do Lamp White Lounge quite a bit in the park. I do that one more than any other.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

If you're only eating quick service, you're missing out. Facebook is right. Your Disney trip is gonna suck. You know, if you're sometimes, hey, there's some great quick service. There is. Yeah, and I'm I'm more than happy, especially when I go to Disneyland, California Adventure. Like, it's rare that I'll eat a table service there. I've eaten at Cafe Orleans, I think twice, and I've gone a hundred times. And then Blue Bayou, I've done once with you guys. Lamplight lounge, I've done two or three times. Uh-huh. But for the most part, eh, they have good enough quick service that I'm good with that.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

I know, and I feel like Tiama's rivals. Yes. Rivals a table table service to me. It's a good food, and so does Hungry Bear. Now that it's quick service. And the chicken place. I've written it. Oh, Plaza.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Yeah, that's the closest to a sit-down that I'll do.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Yeah, usually on our those are three, those are three quick service places.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:06

The rival sit-downs that we just off the top of our head.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

And so, oh, the other one. That restaurant is terrible. Oh, yeah. It's just no matter what restaurant you post, somebody's going to say that restaurant is terrible. And there are ones that are better quality than others. Some people would probably love sci-fi dine in. And I'm like, Yeah, I I no. It's not one I'm gonna I recommend it just because it's kind of neat to go in there once and okay, yeah. I'm I won't go back there. And I but I won't ever go back there. No. So I have my opinion of what's terrible. I'm not gonna tell people on Facebook, but Facebook is gonna they're right. They're gonna tell you.

SPEAKER_02 15:43

Yeah, not unless someone said, I plan to go into sci-fi three times. But and I plan on going to sci-fi dynam, but I just don't know if it's gonna be good enough. Are there any have you been there and what's your thoughts? Oh, yeah. That's a question. That's a question. I plan on going to sci-fi din in and then commenting, you're an idiot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Your whole trip is gonna suck. Okay. Next next one for yours.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

Yeah, the uh read my own writing. I wrote them down so fast. I'll skip that one for now and come back to it.

Park Hopping Chaos And Feasibility

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Okay. Read it. Four parks in two days to minimize walking. I'm gonna go to four parks in two days. Wow. Two days in the world. I'm going to it's gonna look like this. I don't care. I just want to hit these four rides total.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

And it's a like say let's say for argument's sake, it's a very like feasible plan. Yeah. It's doable, right? It's doable. I'm gonna go to these. I don't care, I don't even care what rides I ride. You just want to go I just want to go to every park during the day. You want to experience it. I want to walk around the castle. I want to do one ride at each park. I don't even care what I do, have a meal, meal somewhere, right? People say stuff like, this isn't a military operation, it's supposed to be a vacation. And Magic Kingdom, you can't go to Magic Kingdom because that's only a full-day park. Yeah. You can't why you can't, there's impossible to go to Magic Kingdom and leave and go to another park and not go back to Magic Kingdom. Only do like two rides. Yeah, if you're gonna park hop, you have to go to Magic Kingdom every day. Yeah. There's no way to do it. It's impossible. Yeah. And it's too long. There's no way you can you can't do it. It's not feasible because you have to take the ride in between the parks. Yeah, the bus. You won't make it. You won't you'll spend your whole day just on buses. Yeah. And stuff. So there's no way you can do it. It's impossible.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

It's gonna be terrible. Right, that's a terrible trip. Terrible idea. Horrible idea.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

Terrible. Terrible. Four parks in two days. Yes. Which again, I think it's a horrible idea, personally.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Yeah. But again, if you want to do that, we're five and a half hour flight.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

Right. Some do a four park in one day adventure.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

Yeah. It's a challenge. I've seen some. How many rides can I get in? All ears did the can I ride everything in one day in all four parks? And it took five tries, but they finally did it. And that kind of challenge sounds interesting. I think they did 40,000 steps. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

Yeah, I don't know if I mean it's a day if you want to try to do that.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

It's a I mean, if that's your challenge, if that's your challenge that you want to do. I wouldn't do it for a fun family trip.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

No.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

Like, come on, kids.

SPEAKER_01 18:04

Let's torture them. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Okay. That's it. Okay, my next one.

Souvenirs, Amazon, And Memory Value

SPEAKER_02 18:09

I got the next one. I finally figured it out one earlier. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

You're buying the wrong souvenirs. This is this'll be quick. You can get the same thing cheaper on Amazon ahead of time. Right. Yeah, just buy it at Amazon. It's not the same. Yeah, it isn't. Buying stuff in the park.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

Not even, I mean, I'm not even talking quality here. I'm talking the ex so me being a shopper of the two of us.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

The experience of purchasing things at Disney is different.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

It is. Going up to that cash register and having them ask you if you have a pass to get a discount.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Oh, and then saying yes. And then saying that. That's one of my favorite comments to make ever is saying yes finally after all these years. But no, just buying something in general. And talking to that cast member, joking around with them. Yeah. And purchasing whatever you're going to purchase, if it's a hat, a shirt, a pen.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

But see, you realize you're going to realize that you overspent and it's going to make you hate the trip.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

Yeah, but I cannot remember. I don't know. I'm just arguing back with you for fun. I know. Because it's fun. I'm just saying that when I purchase, I can't tell you, I I mean, I bought a bunch of stuff on Amazon. I do buy my buy my bulk of stuff. My fair amount of Amazon Disney purchases, but I can tell you every time every Disney thing I bought in a park and where I bought it and when.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

That's the difference.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

So it's going to collect dust in the closet when you get back. Possibly, depending on what it is. I don't buy enough stuff, I think, to collect dust. I've got a few hats that I'll never wear. But they usually those were given to me. But I, again, with my limited purchasing that I do, I buy stuff that like pens that I will put on my crossbody bag when I go into the parks. Right. I buy hats because I like wearing the hats. I've got a sweatshirt that I was forced into buying because I was soaking wet and I was freezing cold one night. And then the t-shirt, because I just always wanted a t-shirt. But other than that, yeah, I don't really have anything that would collect dust in the back. Although, oh, my Viking ears, Mickey ears. Yeah. Yeah, those I just looked at those. Right. Those have collected little dust. And my orange bird sipper. Okay. Which, yeah, Orange Bird is my chewy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

Hi, Chewy.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Yep. So last one, your child will probably lose it somewhere in the park or hotel. So don't buy him stuff there. Buy it ahead of time. Cheaper on Amazon. Then you're not going to be upset. Right. Hey, just buy your kid the bubble one. Let them bubble everybody as you're walking along and burn through them bubbles. Whatever. But you gotta, you gotta have a budget for a kid in the park. I just I do believe that.

SPEAKER_02 20:46

And I'm gonna, I'm going to say that I'm gonna promote the women wives buying their husbands' t-shirts at Disney that they'll probably never wear again. Okay. And then taking them to Goodwill later. Because my new plan that I haven't started yet, but I just thought of this the other day, is to go to Goodwill and look for Disney. Look for Disney shirts so I can wear them on the podcast. Oh, there you go. Right. Or to the parks. I mean, just any kind of old Disney shirt, a vintage Disney shirt. I'm gonna start looking at those at Goodwill.

SPEAKER_01 21:11

Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

If I can find some good ones.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

Yeah. So wives, do this. Do this.

Minute By Minute Plans And Rest Days

SPEAKER_02 21:16

Okay. My next one, what I could not read before was a minute by minute plan of the day. Like minute by minute. Here's what we're gonna do at this time and this time and this time. People say like stuff like it's too packed. That's too packed of a day, right? You can never, never, you can never accomplish that.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

You're overbooking your day. You're yeah, you're not gonna have any fun.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

You better put a rest day in there. Where's your rest day at?

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Yes. I have that on mine as well. Do you? Yeah. You have to have a rest day. You have to have a rest day.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

And you put way too much work in this, it'll never work anyway. Why why even do all this work? It's gonna throw out the window once you walk in the park, which is completely honestly true. It is. Right. There's no way your itinerary is gonna work. But it's fun.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

But it's fun to have an itinerary. Right. Some people like to make a plan. You have something to work off of. I I like having the plan just so I have something to work off of where if I need to pivot, I can, no problem. Right. And I completely understand that. But I at least have an idea of like I do want to fit that in somewhere today. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that type of thing. Absolutely. Okay. Okay, you're

Lightning Lanes, Tours, And Paid Events

SPEAKER_01 22:17

next. You're buying the wrong experiences. You do or you don't need fast pass for that park. People who I will always buy a fast pass, even now with the limited amount of rides for Animal Kingdom. I just will. It's 15 bucks. Right. It lets me walk on to all the rides at once.

SPEAKER_03 22:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

And I'm going to ride things multiple times. Like I will be on Everest four times. You will. In a day. Cali River Rapids, maybe a couple times, but I then I can do all the walkthroughs and everything else, but it just makes where I will do that. But I do a fast pass at every park. I don't care. I completely understand those times where you don't need to get a fast pass. And in fact, when I went after Thanksgiving a couple years ago with my cousins, we didn't get fast passes on the Friday we arrived or Saturday after Thanksgiving, and we were fine.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

Oh yeah. I'm sure I could be fine.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Yes. But I don't care. I like them. It's nice because then you can plan some stuff out a little bit. Right. And I like the planning.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

I just do. I'm a I like planning, but Facebook says your trip is gonna suck. You absolutely need to buy a single pass for that ride, but not that ride.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Yeah. You should buy a single pass for Rise of the Resistance.

SPEAKER_03 23:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

But you don't need to buy one for Seven Dwarves. You can rope drop that one. Or you hey, if it's a ride you want to make sure that you do, yeah, you kind of gotta buy it. But people, whether you buy them or don't buy them, they're just gonna tell you that that's just suck. Right. It's gonna make your trip worse. Yep. Because you're just spending more money on something. Hey, spend money on whatever you want. Exactly. Premier pass is never a good idea. That's yeah, that's just a stupid. You're buying the wrong experiences. They're gonna tell you your plan sucks. But hey, if you got if you want to buy a Premier Pass, buy a Premier Pass.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

If you have the money to buy a Premier Pass, that's what you want to spend your money on. That's the perfect idea.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

If I had a a solid Disney budget, I would be buying those every day I grant. Because then I wouldn't have to think about the brides. Right. Yeah. Or any of those experiences. Those tours will eat up too much of your park day. So don't do the living with the land tour. Don't do the footsteps of wall.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Footsteps?

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Yeah. Don't do those. It'll eat up too much of your park day. You paid $70 to be in the park that day. Do whatever you want. Right. If you paid for that and you want to go on that on that tour, go on that tour. Totally. And those tours are too expensive for what you're getting. It's a unique experience. It's like any type of unique experience that you pay for. Oogie Boogie. The Mickey's Very Merry Christmas, which dropped today, the day of the recording, all the stuff that they're doing for that. Which is one I've never done. One I really want to do Jollywood nights. Another one I want to do. I still want to do Oogie Boogie Bash because I've done Mickey's Not So Scaredy September 17th. Twice in each park. September 17th.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

That's when you're going? Yep. September 17th. You can come to Oogie Boogie Bash.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

So I don't have a costume partner at all. But I did do like extended evening hours where you paid to stay till one o'clock in the morning at Epcot. And it was like it was a splurge. It was a fun splurge. It was empty. It was Guardians was walk-on. We walked on so many times. We made ourselves sick writing it. Hey, that was great. Yeah. Of course, it was it was horrible getting up the next morning. It was terrible. But yeah, you're buying the wrong experiences. You're it's gonna ruin your whole trip. That's what you're gonna hear. Or you didn't buy that, and now your trip's not as good. Right. People are gonna complain. Do what you want to do. Find what you want to do. Right.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

Okay, go ahead. Exactly.

Giant Group Trips And Overplanning

SPEAKER_02 26:04

That's what this whole episode says. That's the that's the highlight of this episode. Do your thing to do. My my next one is I'm taking my family of 10 to Disney, two different families. We're going together. Uh-huh. And my my itinerary ended up to be 47 pages long, right? Yeah. But it's going to be per uh, it's going to be a perfect plan. Yes. So why you would share that at all on the internet is stupid. Yeah. Right. And I totally agree that that's a stupid idea to make a 47-page plan. Oh, yeah. But some of the responses would be like, why don't you just apply for a park management because you're almost time on it? And again, the same same old response. Why even do all that work? It doesn't matter. Yeah. You're doing nothing. You just did nothing.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

Yep. You're going to have to throw it away anyway.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

You're going to claw, you're going to your first step when you're going to go to Disneyland, you're going to go to the ticket booth, and you're going to your first thing on your first page is take a left, and half of your family's going to go right. Yeah. And your plan's ruined. Plans ruined for they're going to Tomorrowland and your whole plan was to go to Fantasyland first. Plans ruined before it starts.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Yeah. That's all for that one.

Travel Agents, Trip Length, And Budgets

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Okay. My last little heading. You made a mistake planning a trip. Planning your trip. You did or did not use a Disney travel agent.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Well, that's just a bad idea not to.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Well it depends.

SPEAKER_02 27:18

No, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

No, I'm just kidding. So, like, and this is not to say because you are you are my equal. We are equals with planning Disney trips. And you are a Disney travel agent. Right. I don't need to use you at all. A lot of people don't. I mean. And so, in fact, if I wanted to make a change, it kind of slows things down. And I was like, I want to make a change now. And you have to deal with me bugging you. Get up! I need you to make my change right now. So if you're new to everything, get a yeah, reach out to Aaron. Right, well, yeah, and I'm it helps with planning stuff.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

I plan on making a video or a post soon talking about why like a person like you should use a Disney travel engine. That'd be good. Because I need to I need to like really invest on why, because there's so many people that aren't there's not many like you, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:07

Yeah, they're one of a few.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

There's a different tier, a lower tier than you. Yes. Lower Disney fandom.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

That go a lot. They love Disney, but they think they know everything. Yes. Yet they don't. That they don't. Right. You're in the you're in the you know everything. You're in that level of person that does the same exact research I do.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

We watch the same stuff. We watch, yeah, all the same stuff. We rarely text each other, and the other person says, Oh, I never heard that before. Yeah. It's usually, I just saw that too. That's usually the answer.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

It's the yeah, the breaking news. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Yeah. I just saw that also. Yeah. It's the same exact time. But there is another tier, and I get I need to research that and really post and try to convince that's my next step in my in my travel planner. Get in the getting the is to try to get those guys that go all the time. The confident to say, hey, I'm a person that I know you anybody I know personally that goes to Disney, they can text me anytime or anything, and I'll still answer them without booking their trip and then can go book their trip on one of those crazy places that book a lot of people's trips. Yeah. But anyway, yeah. I can go on and on about that, but I won't because we are running out of time and let's keep going.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Okay. So you made a mistake planning your trip. Your trip is too long or your trip is too short. You know, I find the sweet spot for going to Disney a three-day trip. Fly in, get in, and go to the park immediately to the park, have two more days, and then fly home the next day. That's a perfect Disneyland trip. Three days in the parks. Well, that's the that's the that's money. I could do one day.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

I could too.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

Three days. Like if I were gonna be down in Southern California and I could pop in, and I've done that. I actually went in and interviewed with the company and immediately drove down from Ventura down to Anaheim. That was a road trip. Yeah. That took a while. Right. That drive sucked during rush hour. But after the interview, I drove down there and I went for a day. And then I drove back to Washington. Crazy. The next gym pot people. Yeah. I did all that. But but now Disney World, I've never gone to Florida and just been like, oh, I gotta go pop in and do this and stuff. So for me, it's I gotta be there at least five days. Right. That's my trip. But some people, oh, that's too long of a trip, or that's too short of a trip. And let's say you wanted to go for 10 days, but you only gonna want to do a park per day. And you this is the one you mentioned that two days in the parks and five days hanging out by the pool or or Disney Springs or yeah, going out to eat. Oh, that's too long. Well, vacation is not too long about it.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

You're staying in a hotel, you have a great pool, great food.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

Yeah, you don't have enough down days. Well, we go to Disneyland, we don't have down days, we don't have a down mark.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Not even no, not even our rest days aren't rest days.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

It's we do stuff. Go to as soon as we're done walking around the parks, we're just go straight to bed.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

Right, and our non-park days is we have a non-park day or days, but we don't have a rest day.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Not even really for Disneyland. No, no, we no, never at Disneyland. Now, Disney World I have found flying as far as we do. I like that first day to just be a do whatever day, kind of a resort hop, go to well, yeah. Because I just find that I'm trying to adjust time difference and heat, and it just it's an adjustment day, and I will have more fun if I use that as an adjustment day. But if you don't need that, uh don't, yeah, you don't have to. So Facebook's gonna tell you your ideas suck. They don't. Totally, and you're not doing enough to justify the expense.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

There's another beholder thing.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

Yeah, it's yeah, that's all the way you just you gotta have the trip you want to have. That's just it. So, like and someone will tell you you're not doing enough or you're doing too much.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Right. To me, I justify every dollar I spent at Disney, but to my wife Christy, I've never justified one dollar I spent at Disney. Yes, so there's a different, everyone has their different thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

But and me doing a marathon, that's just because I love doing the marathon stuff at Disney. Go, go, go, go, go. And I'm cool with that. But other people aren't. No. But you gotta do what you gotta

Rope Drop To Midnight Schedules

SPEAKER_01 32:11

do. All right.

SPEAKER_02 32:11

Okay, my last one four-day schedule at Disney World, right? Here's my four-day schedule, another plan. I have another plan. Okay, most things are considered plans, have people post our plans, right? Yeah. Rope drop, 12 rides before noon, pool break, sit-down dining, fireworks, extra evening hours. Whole plan. Say that again. So that there's our plan, a four-day schedule each day, except for every day is gonna have extra evening hours, but rope drop every day, 12 rides every day before noon. Okay, right? Pool break, sit-down dining, fireworks, and then the the evenings that have it extra evening hours. So staying all day long. Here's my plan for my family. Okay. Right with our kids, we're going all day, we're doing it hardcore. We're ride or die Disney. We're going for it, right? Yeah. And the first thing people say is that's not really a vacation at all. You're not taking a vacation, you're just going, you're just working uh away from home, running around, always on the movie, cruising around, right? Always having a plan. Never gonna go over here, never gonna go here. Go to the pool now. Pool, pool time. Sit down, nope, out of the pool, dinner time. Fireworks start. We gotta go sit down for fireworks. Let's go. Hurry up, hurry up and eat.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

So that could be it, or it could be here's our plan. Looks like dinner's running long. We're gonna miss the fireworks tonight.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

That could be their real plan. They just post their plan. Yes. And the real plan could be totally different. And this could be a I this could be a whoa, we only got four rides in before noon. Oh well.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

But according to Facebook, that idea sucks.

SPEAKER_02 33:35

Sucky, crappy idea. Crappy idea. And there's no time in there for a pool break, is what a lot of people say.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

You can't fit a pool break in there. You can't watch the fireworks and have a pool break.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Yeah. And go to dinner. Have a break in the middle of the day. No, you just have to stay in the park. Press on.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Press on. Move on. Throw your kid in the shade for a couple minutes.

SPEAKER_01 33:53

Yes. They can take a nap in their stroller.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

They don't need to take a nap in an air-conditioned

Rolling With The Flow And Closing

SPEAKER_02 33:58

room. So, first of all, before we end, I gotta apologize for everyone that came on to listen to our Toy Story 3 and 4 recaps because of a technical delay. They're pushed back a couple weeks.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

You know we haven't posted that one yet.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

But by the time this comes out, not necessarily posted. Oh, we're gonna wait on it.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

I can put this one in front of those ones. You can put them in whatever order you want. I'll do those back to back. That was my idea why I said let's push it, because it wasn't a big deal.

SPEAKER_02 34:22

That'll be edited out.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

Yes. I'm gonna leave it in just because we leave everything in. We gotta, it's a we're modeling good rolling with the flow here.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

Just hey, the plan is let's change the plan. There you go.

SPEAKER_02 34:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Facebook is don't push your stuff on Facebook. They're gonna tell you your idea sucks.

SPEAKER_02 34:41

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SPEAKER_01 34:43

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SPEAKER_02 34:53

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SPEAKER_01 35:00

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SPEAKER_02 35:01

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SPEAKER_01 35:03

That was always my line. But anyway, until next week. Cheers.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

Cheers.