"Calling Me Crazy is a Compliment" (w/Kyera Kacey)

You know it's all perspective, right? Brendan talks with the magnetic powerhouse, Kyera Kacey, author, coach and founder of founder of LiberateHER.™️ They have all kinds of fun and dive right into:

• The ONE THING thats stopping you from CHANGE.
• The KEY STEP to having a healthy relationship with your past. 
• Why the more fun you have, the more money you make. 
• The REAL definition of wealth. 
• And whether or not it's ok to sleep with money. 

RESOURCES
Kyera Kacey
Kyera Kacey Retreat Series
Kyera on What it's like Going to 18 Joe Dispenza Retreats
The Most Liberated Person in the World 

Transcript

I think we can all agree that there's a lot of irony in the fact that probably the number one song That a drunk white girl sings at karaoke is I Will Survive. And that same girl truly sings it in a way that is painful to all of us. It's like, she just had a breakup, we know it, and it's all coming out during I Will Survive.

You know, just be like, I will, will survive, David, I will survive! Yeah, but we won't. What about us? If you continue to sing like this, we might all die. My ears have limits. I came here for a workplace [00:01:00] happy hour hang. And your voice is making me question whether I even want to bring a child into this world.

For someone who really cares about preserving life, this should matter to you. Help. Okay, welcome to a brand new episode of Spiritual Asshole. I'm Brendan Fitzgibbons, thank you so much as always for joining us. Please follow me on Instagram at the underscore Brendan Fitzgibbons. I'm on YouTube. Making waves at the underscore Brennan Fitzgibbons again over on YouTube.

I'm getting mostly positive comments I'm getting occasional comments like hey, this guy's joke about Mexican restaurants I can't take seriously because he lived in New York and that's really far away from Mexico intelligent comments I have a lot of good things going on, y'all, and I am so excited about today's guest, it's the amazing Kyra Casey.

Check her out, she's a transformational coach, author, and also, all around badass. Kyra and I have become friends, and let's just say, if you ever need the motivation, contact Kyra. If you ever need someone to basically say to you, without actually saying it, Hey, [00:02:00] stop being a bitch, contact Kyra. She's truly one of the most inspirational people I know, I tell her this constantly.

She's like, 5 hour energy if it was a hype woman. I found Kyra, very cool story because as you guys all know, I've been obsessed with Hi, I'm Dr. Joe Dispenza here. Hi. Hey everybody, Dr. Joe Dispenza here. And I found one of her YouTube videos talking about how she went to 19 different events, and guess what I'm going to my first event in LA on March 14th through the 16th. I'm so beyond excited. I know some incredible shit's gonna happen I literally cannot wait I think this is the beginning of some incredible Incredible transformations in a journey for me into going either farther Into Joe Dispenza and into my own psyche tell you guys a very quick story on that I've been having some incredible meditations due to going in on this work and really committing to sitting down Almost every day for over an hour now, I've been meditating.

Kyra meditates for nine hours a day. Just kidding, but she does like three, which is wild. [00:03:00] I've been doing these really intensive meditations, which is what Joe dispenses the foundation of his teachings, really. And last Saturday morning, I get up. I've been doing it morning and night, and I have a wild meditation.

Like, I'm basically now able to sort of get Dispense always talks about getting into a place where you become no one, nowhere, no thing, in no time. That's basically like you become the present moment and the quantum field, all collapsing in this current moment, all your concepts and constructs of who you think you are disappear.

You basically become pure positive love. Okay, so I experienced this sometimes on meditations. I experienced it a lot of times on mushrooms, and now I can experience it almost all the time on meditations, which is Absolutely incredible, and it's how I think you can bring real change into your life. It takes practice guys, just keep that, just please keep that in mind.

Like, Dispenses Meditations are anywhere between 15 to, Kyra said there's a 3 hour one. So, you wouldn't just start, on the first day that you decided to go for a jog, you wouldn't jog for 3 [00:04:00] hours. I am all for leading up to it, or making it easy for you so you don't get discouraged. The number one thing is to not get discouraged and think it's impossible.

Okay. But the transformation is there for you. I am not special. Everybody has access to this incredible power. It's really our superpower in my opinion. Okay. Have a great meditation Saturday morning. And I like broke through, I was like so in it. I almost like, I literally started like tuning myself and like shaking and my eyes are closed and I just see like gold everywhere.

And I started seeing like visions I've never seen before. And I get out of it because then like myself came back and I was like, Oh wow. That was amazing. I was like, something cool is going to happen today. Okay. This was a Joe Dispenza meditation. I go hiking. I have a great day. I'm listening to becoming supernatural, which is his book.

I'm supposed to meet my friend, Natasha and Mimi at a Argentinian restaurant to celebrate Natasha's dad, who was his birthday. He passed away every year. She goes to a [00:05:00] restaurant to celebrate him. Okay. So they were going to a movie first. And I was like, I want to see this movie. I like myself. And.

So she calls me afterwards, after the movie. She's in Glendale, and she's like, Hey, we're gonna go to this Argentinian restaurant. Oh! And I'm like, what? What? I'm on the other end of the phone, and she goes, That's Joe Dispenza. That day, she walked into Joe Dispenza, who I'm pretty sure doesn't even live here.

And I was just like, fucking go talk to him! Oh my god! Cause I was just like, oh my god, this is confirmation, it's all working. Everything is working. Like, the odds of that happening are insane. So I was on such a high about that, that I had some other crazy shit happen to me that night. Okay. So, it was funny cause I was like, you know, universe is gonna show me like a sign.

Like I broke through today, something's gonna happen. Oh, what was the sign? the guy that I've only been thinking about all the time. I have a indirect interaction with him. And if I would have gone to the movie, I would have met him. But there was a reason why I didn't, and it's all good.

[00:06:00] I see these things much more as You're on the right path, you know, I think the universe in life is always giving you doors And this is a subject I've talked a lot about recently Every door is a possibility in your reality. Sometimes that door opens and you're like, yeah I want to go through that door and sometimes that door opens and you're like I shouldn't go through that door, but I probably will anyways.

But these things are always unfolding. And so, and you always have the choice. So I took this very much as you are on the right track. And things are really working. So, quickly before we get into Cairo, because this episode's awesome, I want to talk about this idea that I mentioned earlier. So I'm watching the show Severance.

The first question of Severance is one of the main characters lying face down on a table and you hear a god like voice say, Who are you? And she gets discombobulated and he says it again, Who are you? Who are you? The premise of the show, if you don't know the show, Is that a [00:07:00] group of employees voluntarily sever their brains so that when they go to work, they become a completely different person than they are outside of work.

So it's like, all the memories are gone, they don't even know, and they divide those people into their innies and their outies. So they don't even know what their outie is like. Because they're any is like completely different person and it brings up so many interesting questions about who are you?

Really? We have talked a lot on this podcast about the unconscious mind the subconscious mind What's really running the show and we have these conscious minds, but sometimes the subconscious minds like no I should absolutely go to CVS and have milk that's in a parking lot right now and you're like, why did I do that?

Well because your subconscious is kind of running it but it's like but you never say I'm CVS chocolate guy So we have these conflicting versions of ourselves, and this is a theme that's gonna really hit home when we talk, when we have Carolyn, Carolyn Lovewell on next week to talk about all the parts of yourself.

This is like very much into part work. But what I find so interesting, I'm not going to give away [00:08:00] anything about the show, is the second season is very much about identity, but also how people on the outside, who've never been severed, are voluntarily severing off themselves. So this is going to come full circle because Kyra recently Put me on blast for not having more videos and content about psychedelics and how I'm really into it.

And I'm a big proponent. You guys certainly know that. I've talked about it here, but it's not really publicly out on the internet. And she said this great thing where she was basically like, when you're not your full self, you're limiting yourself and you're putting limitations out in the field. Okay. So this is all connected, right?

Severance is all about people who either voluntary voluntarily or involuntarily cut off a part of theirselves to fit in, to be a part of society, to really, I think, a suge pain. That's why we do it to really try to hide from fear. Because [00:09:00] that's probably the reason why I have severed myself in some ways, specifically in this, um, psychedelic incidents, for sure.

Kyra is somebody who teaches something called liberation, right? So that's the opposite of fear. So the question I have for all of you today that I think is very helpful to think about, what ways in your life Are you not being your fullest self? What ways in your life are you severing yourself? Do you really want to be a scuba dive instructor, but all but you don't think you can do it.

So you have to be an accountant. So you have to be the only male cheerleader for the Dallas Mavericks? That's actually kind of an awesome example. Do you want to leave a relationship, but you're too scared to, so you just kind of quiet yourself a little bit?

Do you want to live somewhere else? Do you want to move outside of your house? Here's a tip as to where you think you're severing yourself. Your soul and your intuition always knows and will point at directions and tell you what is the bigger version of you, right? Carolyn [00:10:00] Lovewell basically said like, in our episode, I'm pretty sure she said something along the lines of like, Your soul is huge.

It's expansive, it's timeless, it's what should really be running the show. Right? But it's your mind that comes in and tries to push it down. Sever, if you will. Cut ties. No, I can't show that part because that's scary, or I can't do that thing because it's not possible. But that's cutting some of ourselves off.

And what's crazy about the show, and what's crazy about our own lives, is we are all severing ourselves, for the most part, in some ways. Not everybody. Not everybody, but that's why today's guest is so awesome because she's all about letting that shit run wild! I hope you guys enjoy this. This is a great episode.

Here she is, Kyra Casey Okay, everybody, welcome to a brand new episode of Spiritual Asshole. I'm so excited to be joined by Kyra Casey. She is the founder of Liberate Her. She's an author coach and I would say a Joe Dispenza expert. How are you doing? I, wow, thank you for that. Yes. I mean, I have definitely [00:11:00] been to a lot of events, so I know what I'm doing when I go, but yeah, I'm doing amazing.

Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. I'm excited. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. So you have a book called Rich Bitch. Is it fair to say that you're leading the war against poor bastards? Is that what this is about? You gotta attack the poor bastards? You know, I feel like, I would say like, poor in their mindset.

Like, yeah, we gotta be done with that. Like, that's done. We gotta be done. Yeah, you don't work. I don't know. It seems like this is a lot with female coaches. It doesn't seem like you work with a lot of men. Is that because we're too busy being awesome? I just feel like they hit on me a lot. But like, you know, That's such a guy thing to be like, I need a coach.

And then he's like, so what are you doing later? That's such a guy move. So like, are you able to take me at like 9 p. m and like maybe over dinner? And I'm like, it's like probably not going to work for me. But no, like I do have male clients. I just advertise to women. But like, even inside of like my rich bitch membership, we have men.

They're amazing. Yeah. I saw, no, I saw on your website. It's great. So [00:12:00] a big, you started something called liberate her, which is great. What does a liberated person look like to you? Because to me, it's a streaker during a football game who gets the ever loving ship kicked out of them. That's a really liberated.

You know what? In fairness, I did two years ago, I did a photo shoot in Nashville and all I wore were jeans and I wore tassels. And this was like during the day, this was like 2 p. m down Broadway. And for some reason I had this idea that like people be super okay with that. I'm like, it's Nashville. It's right.

No, they were, they were so uptight about it. I mean, there were a couple of men that were like high fiving. really, that was. Yeah, they were super like, this is, it was kind of cringe for a lot of people and I get it, but um, liberated for me is just being your most authentic self expressed version of you.

And whether that means you're fully covered up or you're ass naked, like whatever that is, you do you. You know, it's like, Yeah. So your journey, I really want to have you on for multiple reasons, but one of them is like, you definitely made a hard pivot towards [00:13:00] success. I feel like, is that fair to say?

That's fair to say, yeah. And in that success, would you say that a liberation came as well? Yes. And no, like liberation was already there, but then there was a new edge, especially when I, I left my marriage in 2022. So I've always been super liberated, but it wasn't until it was like, uh, December of 2022.

And I left my marriage. I really realized it actually would say it was before this that I realized it, but, you know, my business had been doing really well. I think I did over 800, 000 in sales that year. And I was like. I know everything I need to know in terms of growing my business. Like my next business strategy is not going to be found in marketing.

It's actually a personal one. And so this is why I branded like your next business strategy, just like your next wealth strategy is a personal one. Because for me, I knew I needed to leave my marriage. That was the cap that I was hitting. So I would say I was, I've always been very liberated, always been very self expressed, but there was like a new edge that I met to that, you know, after I left my marriage.

Do you think your marriage was holding back your [00:14:00] success? Let's go there in some ways. I would say in some ways, absolutely. Because even though I was doing really well financially, I was like, you know, it's like, I wasn't really turned on in my marriage. And I think your business is an extension of who you're being.

And if I'm not turned on in my marriage, that's gotta be affecting my business in some way. And for me, I'm like, I can't sit here. Here's what it was. The moment the door closed on that marriage progressing, I moved. So it wasn't like the door closed and I stayed. It was like, this isn't really working out.

Let me see if we can fix this or whatever, have this work. And when that just was no longer an option. That's when I said, I'm, I love you and I'm out and it was two weeks before Christmas. It wasn't convenient, it wasn't easy, but it was the right, it was the right thing to do. Wow. Yeah. It's something I think about a lot.

Like if you're doing something, does it close the doors on other things? But then, then I'm like, but then God, that gets like mental inception. Then I started thinking a lot of thoughts. I think it does in some ways. I definitely do. Cause everything's [00:15:00] connected. Okay, that's, that's interesting. Okay, so, you are now currently living a very good lifestyle.

you, okay, so you have two Dobermans, you have a seven figure business, you have some sick bling. Has it always been your goal to live the lifestyle of a gangster rapper? You know what? Do you know what this E is for? That is for Eminem. I will say I'm a big Eminem fan. There we go. Okay, so like, There we go.

I can sit down and do a five hour pineal gland meditation and I can also rap almost any Eminem song. So like, this and that. Oh my god. Oh, we're gonna get into the five hour, don't worry. So, what do you think the number one thing people are missing about money, people get wrong about? Wow, holy shit. The number one thing?

Or something that people get wrong. Cause I feel like you're approaching it from a different place. I think there's a lot of people that want a lot of money and yet they don't, they're super unconscious to the fact that they're judging how everyone else spends it, has it, what they do with it.

They're bitching about gas prices and inflation. And like, you're, if you're going to choose to focus on that, you're going to experience more of that. [00:16:00] I also think there's a big unconscious belief of like, cool, she can do that. But that's definitely not going to happen for me. It's like the biggest cock block to success in my opinion.

How did you get over that? Did you have that? Because sometimes when I've talked to so many people now and I have sometimes still feel that way, like some of the successful people I've talked to, I was like, Oh wow, well they have it. How did you get over that? I realized for myself that it wasn't even so much like they can do what I can't.

It was like, who the fuck do I need to be to make this happen? Like it's not out of reach. It's just a matter of like, what am I doing that is stopping me or what's getting in the way of me actually having it? Cause it's not that I can't do it. That's just as a common theme for most people. So it's like, maybe there was a little bit of that voice, but more so for me, it was like.

I'm clearly the problem. Like, you know, Taylor Swift, like it's me, I, I'm the problem. It's me. Like I was super aware of that. So I'm like, what am I not doing? Or what am I doing? That's in the way of this? Yeah. I think that's the first step is for people to [00:17:00] finally actually, and still even people that will say, I know that they still will then say all these things that contradicts that they'll be like, yeah, I know I'm the problem, but it's like, just let that all go.

I feel like. It's a lot of work. Like, you know, even the rich bitch principles, like the art and rich is about responsibility. You've got to be willing to take responsibility for your current experience of life. Whether what you're currently navigating was like your fault or someone else's, you're there.

You've got to make a decision of who you're going to be, how you're going to navigate that and what you're going to do to change it. Or you're going to be a victim. And a lot of people are just choosing to be a victim and they can't even see that. I'm not saying this is easy work. I'm just saying change is possible.

Listen, if it were easy, everybody would do it. Someone's been listening to Joe Dispenza. Okay. Listen, you do know I've been in personal development since I was 17. Okay. So it's just like, we're here. You're ready. So. Yeah, can we just back up and talk about your journey, because your story about like, the things that happened to you at Suspensa, the fact that when you first went, you couldn't [00:18:00] afford to go, It's incredible. Yeah, I mean, In 2016, I went through my first divorce. I'm twice divorced. And that put me in a very bad place financially. But if I was really being honest and looking back, I was never in a good place financially. I will, you know, like, it's like, it's just, I wasn't. And so when that happened, I realized like I was in a really bad place and I realized like, I'm not alone.

There's gotta be a ton of women that just cannot afford their mortgage and they don't know what to do. And, you know, if your husband decides to. Fuck off and leave you for the secretary. Like you better figure out what you're going to do, you know? So just had this moment of like, I'm going to change my life.

And so I asked my mom, like, I, I, I didn't find Dr. Drew's work until 2018. And I resonated with it because it was everything I was doing to already change my life. And so that was like the first thing I really resonated with the message because it was familiar to me. So in 2019, I was like, mom, take me to this event.

Like you literally need to take me, like I need you to pay for the hotel, I need you to pay [00:19:00] for the car, the airplane, I need you to pay for the ticket, I was like I promise one day I'll pay you back, now my parents are not like for money, okay, so that was not like just an easy, sure no problem, but my mom's amazing and she paid for me to go, and she came with me, and it was just the start of changing my life, it was the start, it was like the beginning of the end.

where was that? That was in Vancouver, that was like January of 2019 in Vancouver. And that was a week long? That was a week long. Okay, but you have that, what about that thousand dollar story? So the a thousand dollars was from that week long. So one of the things that he had us do, and I don't, he doesn't really do this at the events anymore, and his events are always changing, but he was like, I want you guys to think of something that you wanna materialize, but have it be something that you actually feel like is within reach, you know, and you're not to tell anybody.

And I was like, God, $1,000 would be fucking life changing. I'm gonna, I'm manifesting a thousand dollars. Okay? And so. I focused on that for the entirety of the event. And again, nobody knew this, right? So you're not telling anyone what you're trying to materialize. And by the very last day of the [00:20:00] event, this man came up to me and he handed me an envelope.

Now I met this man at the event and he sat with me and he kind of asked me like, what's your story? And I shared some of the things I had overcome and my goals. so by the end of that event, he hands me this envelope. Again, he had no idea that I was trying to manifest this. He's like, you know, and I was like, should I open this now?

He's like, no, no, just whenever. Just like when you leave. So my mom and I are at the airport, we're flying back to Detroit, the event is over. And I was like, oh, I forgot ate this guy gave me something. I open it up and it is ten one hundred dollars bills. And I'm like, what the fuck? Oh, oh my God. I is real working.

Oh my God. And then I looked at my mom and I was like, here you go. 'cause I owe you money. And she was like, what? Oh my god. So like, that was the start of me being like, I'm onto something here. Yeah. Well, I heard you tell this story, which I thought was really interesting, was like, you kind of said that you were thinking about this the whole time, but you also kind of forgot about it.

Like, it wasn't Totally. There was no attachment attachment. There was no attachment. It was just like, this will be really [00:21:00] fun. I'm going to play in this. And this is something like I even, like I did a program called role play. And the reality is like, if you're going to change and you want to be the person who's making a million dollars.

You need to know who the fuck you're playing. You need to know what that's gonna feel like. Like, think about it, when you're a kid and you're playing cops and robbers, like, you're a cop. For those five minutes, like, nobody can tell you otherwise. You are a cop, or you're the firefighter, or the vet, whatever you are.

But as we grow up, like, we stop doing that. And so, I just started putting myself in the experience of wealth. How would I spend the money? Anytime someone says to me, like, I don't even know what I would do if I would win the lottery. I'm like, listen, don't even worry about it because the chances of you winning are very slim to none.

If you don't know what you're going to do when you come into money, it's not likely that you'll come into it. You have to start knowing what it is that you're going to do, how you're going to feel. That's, that's the way that I create everything in my life and business. So so that's what you would tell people to how not be attached to an outcome.

Is that the key you think? Yeah, it's kind of like, and I see this a lot when [00:22:00] people are like starting their business, especially if it's a coaching business where they're trying to create from lack and need, and that's a really bad place to create from. That's the frequency that you're trying to create from.

But like, for example, when I manifested a 15 K week, this was, I think four years ago, I was like, what would a 15, 000 week feel like? I just want to play with this. And so every day, multiple times throughout the day, I would set a timer for five minutes and I would. Close my eyes. And I would just tune in.

What would I do if I had a 15, 000 week? How would I celebrate? Who would I take to dinner? Like what, how would I feel? Who would I message? And I would tune into that all day long. And in fact, I would do that so much that when it eventually happened, I didn't even realize it till about a week later or days later.

Cause it was like, I had been rehearsing it up here so many times that when it happened, it was like, I had already experienced it. And it happened very quickly. Dispenza said this thing with um, Lewis Howes where he's like you have to turn the battleship around and I feel like [00:23:00] that's what you did and that's what I'm working on doing now too is like we have this wiring that we think is our reality, but it's just wiring and then so you have to turn it around and I feel like you hardwired it in.

Yeah, I'm, I'm, I think it's a skill set and I've become very skilled. And it does take a lot of energy. It takes a lot of awareness, like even still after everything I've done and created, like I will have moments where that old personality, because my, for majority of my life, I lived in lack and not just in my bank account, but in my mindset.

And so to, to change that, like that takes awareness. If you've had majority of your life overriding abundance, like you've got work to do. Okay. So let's go back. So you've been in personal development for a long time. Because I've done this for a long time too. Did you ever get so frustrated where you're like, why isn't this working?

Um, or did you know, like it has to be there? No, I never got frustrated because here's what I got frustrated with when I moved my business online in 2019. And I'm looking at all of these [00:24:00] coaches, like these people that don't. They don't have like really truly don't have the training or skill set. I was like, hang on.

So this girl is 20 years old and she's a confidence coach. Like how the fuck is she a millionaire? Cause for me, like, you know, I've been through a lot. I was raped by three guys at 17 and healed from that at 19. Like. I, I know how to go through some of the darkest moments and overcome that. So I, it wasn't like, why is this not working?

It was more like, what the fuck is she doing that I'm not? Cause I know that like, I'm meant to do this work. So that was more the frustration for me, like what's going on here. I really like the idea of a 19 year old telling you about how to live. It's great. Uh, I can't, I can't drink, but hold on. In 2016, the FBI and state police raided my house.

I was accused of being part of the Russian mafia. Like, don't tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about. Okay. I've lived it. All right. So when I felt like these 19, 20 year olds, and they're like your business coach, I'm just like, I'm confused. Yeah. No. Okay. So So you started getting the success.

Can you trace that [00:25:00] success to how much you were diving into the dispenser? Do you think that's fair to say? Yeah, I think it's, of course it's fair. It's all relative. I mean, you know, there comes a point in your journey where insight without action makes no difference. And I think when I have an insight, I will apply it.

So for me, like I. I go to so many events because number one, I love the community. And for me, like I'm constantly pouring into people. I love a week to pour into myself. I want to go inward. I want, leave me the fuck alone. Let me meditate. That's for me, but. It's like, at some point, like, you could go to as many events as I've gone to and still be broke and do nothing with your life.

So, when I come home, I live the work. I self regulate. I'm aware. I meditate. I do these things that put me in change. But, like, you could go to a million events and Have nothing change. But what is the magic of events, the events, other, because I haven't gone, I can't wait to go, other than the fact that everyone just gives you a thousand dollars.

What's the magic? Well, I think the magic is what you make it, because I know people that have gone to Joe Dispenza's [00:26:00] events and they hate it. Oh, I do know that. I do know people that have done it. It's rare, but I know them and nothing changed for them because they, whether they had an expectation or whatever it was like, you have to understand, like the event is whatever you make it, whatever you make of it.

I know people that go and they're like, it's 6am. I'm tired. I don't want to do the walking meditation and they stay in bed. And for me, I'm like, why the fuck are you like, yeah, I chase transformation. I want the discomfort. And I think it's like, you're either moving in 1 percent energy or you're moving in the 99 and the 99 or the Netflix and chill and the ones that are complaining.

Uh, by 1%, you mean the people who are thriving. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Totally. yeah, let's talk about the meditations. How, like, how much do you do it? It's so easy, I think, for people to see his meditations and be like, I don't have time for this. Hold on. Let me scroll on Instagram for two and a half hours.

Totally. Or they're like, I don't like his voice or whatever that is. So here's what it was for me. I'll be very honest with you. when I found his work, I was like, there are [00:27:00] people that are, he mentioned something. It was like a testimonial that I saw. And it was like, People were, were changing their financial circumstances and that was the motivator for me.

Me too. It's been, it's very different now, like now it's just wholeness, but it was like the motivator at the time. And so I was like, I'm not doing great financially. He clearly is, the people that are doing this clearly is, let me study them. Let me just tell my ego to shut the fuck up. And I'm going to sit here and I'm going to start meditating.

And so I started with a generous present moment. And this was before I ever attended one of his events. And honestly, What year is this? This was, this had to have been, because I found his work in 2018, so I would say it was either the end of 2018, yeah, end of 2018. Good. So I started doing the generous present moment, and I would do it every day, but it was like sitting there, the only thing that was happening for me for 45 minutes was like frustration, like I want to get up, my email, da da, and so I would just sit.

And then one day I had this like mystical experience out of body. It was so amazing. And I was like, if I spent three months just to have [00:28:00] this moment, I'll do it again for 10 fucking years. It was so amazing. What was the experience? 

M& M started sleeping with me. It was the best day of my life. the way, we're married. It's fine. Um, it was so, it was like all of the frustration, all, it was just gone. There was no noise. It literally felt now I've never done ecstasy. I've smoked pot. That's the extent of my, you know, whatever, but. It felt like I was in total bliss, total ecstasy.

Wherever I was in the cosmos, I did not want to come back. How long did that happen for? Fuck if I know. Wow. And it felt, it felt, it felt like 30 minutes. It was probably 5 or 10. It was because the beginning, I didn't drop right into it. But it was like, when it happened, I was like, Fuck me. How do I stay here?

Yeah, you became no one nowhere. No time. No time. And then he was like, come back to me. And I was like, [00:29:00] fuck. Yeah, I think once you get a taste of that feeling, and so I've had that feeling on mushrooms. I've meditated my whole life. But I really had that feeling for a sustained period of time with my eyes open on mushrooms.

And then I was like, well, if I can do this on mushrooms, I can do this meditating. And I've been experiencing it with his meditations. Yeah. And you know, I know a lot of people love to do psychedelics and they love, what is it? Ayahuasca. I've never done any of that. I don't have a desire to, because when you experience whatever I experienced, independent of any drug, it's like, I just don't have a, you know.

No, I don't think you need to do it. I, I just think like it led me to wanting to chase that feeling more because I, I was like, Oh, I don't have to be my thoughts. My bullshit lies. This is incredible. It's the best. Like you said, it's truly one of the best feelings in the world. Yeah, it really is. Okay. So, and I, I personally experienced that when I'm at his events.

Now, obviously it's easier for me to drop into that state now because I do it so often, but yeah. So what did your practice then continue from there? Were [00:30:00] you doing an hour a day? Do you do the full time? How does that work? Oh yeah. yeah, I just, it's like I meditate every day. That's a non negotiable. I do breath work every day.

I would say my meditations are usually anywhere from 60 minutes to three hours. Whoa. Three hours. Yeah. So he has a meditation. I think you have to have gone to an event to access it, but it's called the center of the magnet. And I think that's two hours, 40 minutes. So typically what I do is like a breath work session beforehand, and then I'll go right into that meditation.

Oh my God. And then do you just go back to bed? Cause the day's over. No, I do. I do. I like now it's time to get on my next zoom call. So what time is it? Like what time are you doing? Are you doing these at a specific time? Usually I do it like before I start my day. So whether I get up at five o'clock or four or six, like that's, it's usually the first thing.

If I don't do it, the first thing it's sometime in the morning and then morning or afternoon. I mean, it's all the time. It's just different. Do you, yeah. Do you do the thing where he was like the four 30 hour, his like magic hour thing. Yeah, [00:31:00] sometimes I do if I get up that early. I naturally wake up early anyway, but if I get up at four or my dogs wake me up to go outside, I'll be like, I'm just going to let them out and not go back to bed because I'm up.

So let's just do this. Okay. All right. We're not gonna talk about Joe Dispenza this whole time, but I have one more question. Please, let's do it. Okay. I think like, so I've always known about him for so long. I've resisted it for so long. My favorite thing that he talks about because it framed. My life and like why stuff keeps repeating to me so much is the idea of stepping out into the unknown.

So it sounds like you live in that space a lot. Do you think that that's fair to say? A hundred percent. Like, you know, people always call me crazy and I have to, I have to like credit my mom to this because she was always like Hi, Rob. Like the best place that you can be is out of your fucking mind.

And I was like, well, let's just do it, mom, you know, that's great. She's amazing. So the moves that I've made are definitely out of the norm out of most people's comfort zone. And I'm just like, well, if I'm going to be this person, then I need to be making these moves [00:32:00] and I'm just going to trust and keep moving in this energy.

So I do a lot of things before her. Actually knowing how I'm going to figure it out and I just trust and move in that energy. So I think if someone, I always say calling me crazy is a compliment. So yeah, is this something that you have to remind yourself every day to do, or now it's just like, I do wild shit automatically.

It's who I am. In fairness, I've always been a wild child. So like, I think it's, it's been helpful. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid to lose anything. Like to me, there's no such thing as failure. Like when I made an, I made an 80, 000 investment that turned out to be a 3 million Ponzi scheme. And the only reason the following month at the time that I had my highest month in business again at that time, cause I've done multiple six figure months, but.

I, I invested 80, 000. I put my left myself with 3, 000 in my bank account. Not knowing that was April of 2021, not knowing how I was going to make that money back, but just knowing it was coming. And then the following month I had an 80, 000 month in my business. It came back like that. [00:33:00] Now I didn't receive it back from the investment that I was supposed to, but I did receive it in my business.

So it was like, I just never stopped myself when my intuition says to move, I move. I don't care. what is required of me to make the move, I'll do it. And I think that's the difference between me and most people. You had a mic drop moment on your Instagram and it was you saying, your lack of belief is more expensive than any coach.

Fuck yeah it is. Can you explain that to people because I think that might be complicated but I got it right away. This is the be in bitches belief. It is literally like it is because if you don't believe in yourself, you're not going anywhere. It's like, so one of the stories I shared in my book, and this was all about the be in bitch, which is belief is that I had two women come to me one time for business coaching and they came at the exact same time, but they couldn't have been more opposite.

One of them was like, I don't know, young. The other one was in like her late fifties. The young one had like a social media following. She had a previous online business. And then my older client, she had nothing. She was like a dinosaur. She didn't know what she was doing online. [00:34:00] She didn't have a following, but she came to me and she said, I'm going to make a fuck ton of money working with you.

It was like, she declared it. And then my younger client, even though she had all the bells and whistles, she couldn't move the fucking needle because she lacked so much confidence and belief in herself. So it's like. Even inside of, another chapter, you know, the number one rule in sales is ABC always be closing.

I have reframed that to be always be convinced because if you're trying to close a sale and you're not even fucking convinced that you're going to close it it's not going to happen. So you have to be convinced you have to have that that belief in yourself. Otherwise, the energy that you're trying to create from his lack and then.

It's not going to work. Yeah. I see that quote, that coaching quote as like your brain's obsession with safety and keeping you in the known is actually costing you so much money that you're not seeing. So much. Yeah. people don't see it like that. Like, yeah, okay.

You're safe and you have a simple job and you make better, but because you're refusing to step out, it's actually costing you millions of dollars. Totally. And like, even if I [00:35:00] look at like my business, like coaching is unpredictable. You don't know where your next client is coming from, but that's not even a consideration.

It could be, but I'm saying it's not because it's like, I believe in what I'm doing so much that I'm just going to keep moving in that energy. Okay. So you feel like, you feel like this is now kind of an automatic thing for you. Yeah, 100%. you also said it takes one moment to change your life. Is that the moment when you remove all the face tattoos that say don't hire me? 

I'm sorry.

The moment is when you decide, like, that's it. It's it literally is that moment where you're like, I'm going to change my life. Fuck this. I'm done. And a lot of people think that. You know what I talk about and I know I talk about this like it's no big deal because for me at this point it's not but even when I was 19 years old and I had this aha moment while I was at this seminar with all these people that like I was still carrying a lot of this trauma and anger from having been raped.

Understandably so right but I was like. [00:36:00] If I carry this anger, the adults, because I was the youngest person there, everyone else was like, I don't know, anywhere from 30 to 70, and they looked super fucking stressed, and I was like, that's gonna be me in 20, 30, 40 years if I don't let this go, like, I don't even want this.

And that wasn't years of therapy, there was no antidepressants, no drugs, it was a decision, it was a moment in fucking time, and I think people have greatly overcomplicated healing. So the simplicity of love is just making a decision. It's making a decision, but then it's moving in that new energy. So for me, that looked like, okay, well, if I'm going to do this, then how am I going to have to show up?

That's different from how I've been showing up. Cause how I had been showing up was like, you know, resting bitch face. You see a woman and you're like, I'm going to leave her alone. That was me. Cause I was like, if I'm angry enough, men will probably just not approach me. That'll keep me safe. Right. And then I was like, but I, I want men to approach me.

I want to love sex. I want to have fun. Like, I don't want to be this angry, closed off [00:37:00] person. So I had to rehearse a new way of being in my life. So yes, it is a moment in time and it's a decision then there, there has to be follow through. What's your thoughts on change coming quickly versus. systemic, like, longer term change.

Like, what's your thoughts on that? I think change happens in a moment. I think it can happen so fucking fast. I think that you can be broke one second and a millionaire the other. I think that there are limitless potentials and possibilities in the field, and I would never limit myself or anybody by time.

Because one thing that I will say, I think I've tried so many, like, quote, manifestation techniques and I don't like how sometimes the videos are like, And then it will just be fine. Make six wishes on your pillow and it's gonna be okay and then tomorrow you're a millionaire. And I like that Dispenza is like, this can be kind of hard because you're rewiring your whole system.

That actually makes me f I'd rather have somebody say that than someone tell me to make a wish under my fucking pillow. No, it's like, okay, have you ever heard of people that masturbate and then when you're [00:38:00] cumming, you think of all the things you want? Like, I never got into that. Like I love self pleasure, but like I've never, that's just, I'm just like, I don't, I've heard too many people try that and I'm like, Hey, but it's been two years and like, you're, you're still broke.

So what's going on here? Again, like it is hard because you do have to, you have to change. This is why I always say you're the biggest bitch in the room. Don't look in the mirror. It's you because it's you against you. You're the opponent. Okay. I also think I heard you talk about this and make sure that I'm correct that you didn't spend a lot of time going back and like fixing limiting beliefs or people call it shadow or whatever you want to call it.

In our child work. I can't stand it. I can't fucking stand it. I'm not going back to five year old Kyra and cradling her. We don't need to do that. Okay. So why? Cause I feel like there's such an extreme on the other end of people saying like. I've had people literally say to me the reason why I'm not super abundant is because I haven't felt the [00:39:00] bad feelings of my past enough.

I just think that's total bullshit. I don't agree with that. Okay. I would love to know why. you know, before I moved my business online, I would see clients in an office for past life regression. And during those sessions, they would have these huge epiphanies and releases and You know, crying and tears and they would have these big aha moments, but then they would come back months later and they're still fucking stuck and they're still talking about the same thing.

And I think for me, that's when I realized like talking about the past is so unnecessary. And for a lot of people, it's like the more they open Pandora's box, the more they relive that experience. Yes. So I just started reading Becoming Supernatural and he talked about the story of that woman whose husband committed suicide.

And yes, so Annie, her name was, and so she for three years was reliving that experience. And I was like, that's obviously an extreme example, but this is what I was saying. Like him framing it versus like familiar past predictable future. I realize how much [00:40:00] I have been using my past to inform my current moment, you know?

Yeah. Well, a lot of people do that. It's really natural. If you think about it in most like. So anytime I run a retreat, people get, they do get a little pissed off because I'm like, well, I don't care about your past. We don't need to hear about that. I want to know about your future. Think about it. If you go to dinner with people, most of the time, what they're talking about is their past.

Most people are not like, Hey, what are you creating? What are you excited about? No, they're bitching. They're complaining. They're talking about something that happened years ago. And the reality is that experience, the only place that it lives now is up here. And every time we bring that forward, it's like, it's like feeding a dog.

It just gets bigger. So what's a healthy relationship with your past? Like, what do you think is, what does that look like? Completion, like for me, for example, I, I knew that I had actually truly healed even though I felt it, but I knew I was really healed from that experience of being raped when , I was driving somewhere one day.

And I, when I got to my end destination, I was like, [00:41:00] holy fuck, I didn't even realize that I drove past the place that it happened at because that's how free I am from it. I don't, I don't think about it anymore. To me, that's when you're free. It's like when you can experience something and you're no longer getting upset or you're charged about it.

It's like the difference between someone who's speaking to something and all of a sudden they start crying and they're reliving the emotions and you almost feel like they're dumping on you versus someone who's just having a conversation and the energy is so clear. Yeah, the question I keep asking myself is, can you see the world with new eyes?

Do you feel like you're able to do that? Yeah, for sure. It is new. It's different because I'm different, you know, like I'm not the same person viewing life.

I don't view life through the lens of. Being angry, you're being broke or resentful and you know what? I always tell people is you will find so much evidence to justify Why you should feel that way so it's not that your feelings should be invalidated It's a matter of asking yourself does feeling and thinking this way serve me and what it is that I'm trying to create so I just help people like When I was working with [00:42:00] women who were going through a divorce, you're so justified in being pissed off your ex husband cheated.

I get it, but staying pissed off is not helping you create your new future. So you have a choice here. You can choose and to choose is to select freely and after consideration. So you choose, you choose to hold on to this, but you cannot take that anger with you if you want to create your new loving relationship.

Like you can't have both. That's so true. all right. So anything else you think is right. On your experience, I'm trying to think about Your stories that like the dispenser stories or anything that was like mind blowing to share I mean, I feel like they're they're all mind blowing because I changed my mind, you know, I feel like that's the thing It's like when you change your life You recognize that you have to change your mind to change your life, and I don't know I love I love everything that I've created I here's something I will say that has been helpful for a lot of people in my world So I have a saying and it's the more I play The more money I make.

So a lot of times when people want to make money, they're stressed about it. They're like, they're overthinking it. They're forcing like they're stressed or they're [00:43:00] needy. There's nothing fun in that. So it's like, how can you actually detach and just get curious for me? When I wanted to manifest a 15 K week that wasn't out of need, that was like pure curiosity and play.

Like, how would it be? Like, I wonder what if, and so when that happened and the more I was in play and more, I was having fun in my business, the more money I started making. That's great. Alright, this has been awesome. I like to close by playing a game called Spiritual or Asshole, where I say some things, and you tell me if it's Spiritual or Asshole, are you down?

I love it, let's go. Okay, Spiritual or Asshole? Sleeping with fake money to get into an abundant mindset. Spiritual. Spiritual arsehole. If someone comes over, you refer to that money in your bed as your children. 

Who can say it's spiritual? Why not? Why not? All right. Spiritual arsehole. Google Maps, but it's in Joe Dispenza's voice. Turn that. Oh, spiritual baby. Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me. Joe, talk dirty to me. Okay. Go daddy. Spiritual arsehole. [00:44:00] Seeing money as an indicator of your own personal value.

Ooh, asshole. So you think that somebody who doesn't have a lot of money can have a lot of value? Fuck yeah, because there's a lot of people that have, that are billionaires that are killing themselves. What's the definition of wealth? I feel like the definition of wealth is how you experience yourself. Oh my god, that's great.


spirits are asshole. Visualizing during your hour long meditation, but the only thing you see is the Chipotle menu. Totally spiritual. I have spiritual experiences eating all the fucking time. I love smoothie. Alright, spiritual or asshole, getting super frustrated that you still haven't met your money goals.

Well, I'd say that's asshole. I'm looking at asshole as ego. Okay, great. Spiritual or asshole, waiting to give someone a tip until they can see that you're doing it because you wanted them to think you're a good person. This happened to me recently. I was like, no, I'm gonna wait till he comes back. All right.

this one's personal spiritual or asshole hosting a retreat in Ireland to Reaffirm your commitment to alcoholism.

You know what? For someone, it's definitely spiritual, baby. So I'll [00:45:00] say it's spiritual. I saw your tree. I love iron. Last question. I ask everybody, if you could tell people one thing to tell themselves all day long, what would it be? You're worthy, worthy to receive, worthy to heal, worthy to change your life.

So great. This was fantastic. Do you want to tell everybody where they can find you? Yeah, KyraCasey. com, Instagram, wherever, just type in my name, I'm sure something will come up. I trust if you're meant to find me, you will. She lives in Birmingham, Alabama, go find her. My address is 1912 now. Yeah, she's in Birmingham.

It's Michigan. All right, this has been great, thank you so much. Thank you so much. What would be the most jarring menu to have on your vision board? I'm saying Del Taco. I live by one, and I drove by and it had advertisement for 3 burritos. And I was like Dude, it's 2025. In order for you to make a 3 burrito, you're actually losing money. Which leads me to believe That that burrito is just one piece of Wonder Bread wrapped in beans.

Keep it going for Kyra Kasey, [00:46:00] everybody! Follow her on Instagram, at Instagram, and also on her website, KyraKasey. com. Join her programs. She has a great Facebook group, and if you want to be motivated, there is no better person. It's, seriously, I'm very lucky that I get to talk to her.

She's awesome. Okay, well I hope you guys have a fantastic week. I believe all your dreams can come true. I believe there's so much love here for you. I believe! That you get to be the fullest version of yourself all the time. Have a great week.