50 Cent vs T.I.: Old Beef, New Drama in Hip-Hop

The long-running tension between 50 Cent and T.I. is back in the spotlight. What started years ago as competitive hip-hop rivalry has resurfaced once again, sparking debate across social media and the rap community.

In this episode we break down the history of the 50 Cent vs T.I. feud, the latest comments that reignited the drama, and what it means for hip-hop culture today. Is this just friendly competition or is the rivalry deeper than fans realize? Let’s talk about it.

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

See niggas went too far. You know, his pen game or his his ability to rap never went nowhere. Right? Like, you know, I look at 50 and you know, just keep making, you know, shows and movies. Like, that's that's your new arena. Like, I don't necessarily want to hear music from 50 Cent.

unknown 0:19

Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

This one from my eye, I was like, I kind of wanted to stay away from it because the controversy be so crazy sometimes, but it but it was like it was it got so much attention. And it was that uh 50 cent TI beef reigniting. When did where did that come from, right? Like of all of all beefs, of all things going on, we got 50 cents and TI going at it again. I think it popped back up because uh TI was on Million Dollars Worth of Game. They asked him about it, which they knew what they were doing by asking him about it too, I feel like. But um, they asked him about it. He said that him and 50 had actually had private discussions, dual verses, but when he had gone out to the public and announced it that 50 kind of acted like, nah, that didn't happen, none of that ever.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

But where did that idea even come up? Like 50 versus T.I.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

uh maybe T.I. approached him. Or maybe like.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

I'm just curious, like that. I don't even see that as a real battle, like TI and 50 Cent. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Well, their errors kind of but their errors kind of coincide. They coincide, but 50 maybe it was slightly before, but I think TI is 50 Cent.

SPEAKER_02 1:26

Like TI is T.I., like countless hits. 50 Cent. I mean, outside of his first album, I mean, he don't have major hits. I mean, to be true. Maybe that might be why he ain't want to go forward with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

I I just don't even like if you want to see TI, I want to see T.I. battle 50 cents. I think some people might feel different. Now, I think if you take it to a neutral zone, obviously if they're in the south, I think T.I. is gonna have a uh home field advantage. And if it's in New York, I think 50's gonna have it.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

But I if they if it's in LA, but what what tracks? I mean, I feel like TI has so many hits.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

But you only have a limited amount that you can do now in the time span. So I guess you'd have to pick the best. And I can't say 50 Cent doesn't have enough to fill the wait, is it 20 songs? Maybe you go 20 for 20. I don't know, but like I don't even think it's that much.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

I mean, if it's 20 songs, it's not that 50 doesn't have 20 good songs, but it's just not the same.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

And I guess it with the verses too, it also comes down to who wins the room. Because you can't say Dipset had less songs than the locks, but the locks won over the room. You know what I mean? And it it it they they took it to like, all right, you gotta know and even at the cash money, um, no limit.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

Yeah, I didn't watch that one.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

But from but from what you see, maybe highlights or what you hear, like it felt like no limit kept the party going, you know what I mean? And they were bringing out guest stars, bigger, you know what I mean? So it it had it felt bigger on that side. I guess if 50 could rock the crowd enough, you know what I'm saying, with the hype man and everything like that, some of them joined a little harder.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

TI's songs are just too hit too hard. Like he don't even need other people. He don't like T.I. Like you listen to his catalog, he's like from a lyrical standpoint, T.I. gets busy, like lyrically.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Oh, without a shadow of a doubt, but his vernacular is just off the charts. Well, so what uh what happened now with the with the mentioning, you know, TI to uh excuse me, 50 took it to the internet because that's 50's new kind of that's that's his that's his studio now, you know what I'm saying? If he's gonna drop something, it's gonna be a host, it's gonna be AI, it's gonna be a meme, it's gonna be something to that effect. Whereas uh T.I. maybe is better on the in the on the mic, like like you might say, to express his um opinions. So like when it first popped off, you know, 50 started getting out there, King T.I.'s son decided he wanted to hop into it.

SPEAKER_02 3:49

I don't even like this one. I mean, I don't like when, you know, leave the family members out.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

Yeah, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

It's it's and it starts to get too personal.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Well, that's what happened. 50 started talking about his wife, started posting pictures of uh of Tiny. But some people might say, well, that's what you'll do if you don't have anything else to say. Oh, yeah, but anything else to bring into it.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Stay out of the shit to begin with.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

Well, and then King is also talking about 50's uh deceased mother.

SPEAKER_02 4:14

Yeah, he only did that after 50 was talking about his mom, so I mean But there's no rules in war. No, there are no rules. Like grown at kids, like, come on now.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Now, I've heard bars from uh TI TI dropped a song called uh The Right One. Um, he also dropped something a little bit before that that wasn't a formal diss track, but it was it kind of felt like it was directed in that way. I think that they want war or something like that. Whereas 50, I said hasn't hasn't of yet of the of this recording responded with it. People have responded for 50 making like AI versions of distracts, but it's all it's it's corny. It's like it's all AI. But you know what I'm saying? So now the video is funny. I can see 50 reposting the video, right? But you know, but I think everybody is gonna look at it after a while, like, yo, you ain't got no bars, like we know you for rap and we know you for rap beef. You should be able to like wanna come up and wanna, you know what I'm saying, like destroy something right now. But I don't even look at 50 like that no more. Like they don't they both I don't even look at TI like that anymore in terms of that, like not to say TI don't, but T I just got back in the rap. Yeah, I mean he was, but I don't feel like his T niggas went too far.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

His um, you know, his pen game or his his ability to rap never went nowhere, right? Like, you know, I look at 50 and you know, just keep making you know shows and movies. Like that that's a new arena. Like, I don't necessarily want to hear music from 50 Cent. Whereas TI I he still you don't think it's profitable for 50 though? Like no, it is. It makes sense why. I'm just I don't know what you would rather see in. I don't want to hear like any anything music related at this point. I'm not really interested in 50. Like 50 stick to the you know the shows and the movies, like that's your new arena.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

I think the Jim Jones stuff is kind of entertaining.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

You've seen some of that with the yeah, I mean I don't I don't necessarily mind that for some reason. Because it's the the ages or they see maybe that or I don't both New York. I don't maybe it's both New York. I don't necessarily see it going the real beef. The thing, like, I don't what I would what I don't want to see is anything, you know. T I look at T.I. I don't know how much he's grown over the years. Hopefully he's grown enough to the point where he can strictly keep this on wax, yeah. Right? Don't let no one trick you out your spot, yeah. But now it's just kind of like now 50's talking about his kids and his wife already that can be triggering, you know. And so it's just kind of like I would hope TI's smart enough to know that comes with it. Yeah. That comes with the I mean when it comes to your kids, like that it's hard. Yeah. Like it's one thing you talk about me, say anything you want about me, but once you start to involve the kids, like that just takes it to a whole nother level. And obviously, we know 50 don't really care about any of those things.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

But also, is 50 saying anything that people aren't already kind of saying in the comments about T.I.'s son, about T.I.'s wife, you know what I mean? So it's not like, you know what I mean? It's also kind of like part for the course. Like, you know, if you're a celebrity, your family and you're gonna have your family out there. He could have kept his family hidden, right? There's celebrity's out there. He's had a reality show with his family. So he he gave them platforms, he put them on. You had to know that that comes with it. So I feel like even in 50 takes it to that level, it's like, I don't know, it comes across as like, bro, we wrap it or not. You know what I'm saying? Um, it was saying that like fans were the ones who actually really were were it started as like internet banter to do the the verses battle, but they don't really uh I guess they couldn't really decide of definitive in which in any internet battle who would. So it kind of got so big that it they became real talk, like, hey, maybe we should do this. Maybe like I don't know, I feel like verses also don't they're not what they was during the pandemic. It was a different feeling.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

Oh yeah, I mean for sure.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

Yeah, you hear about one now, it doesn't have that say because everyone it gave it brought us back to the 90s where we all was watching the same thing at the same time. Right. And I think that feeling just doesn't it since the pandemic has ended, we have it hasn't uh been back anymore. But um, I mean where do you see this going? I think I think T.I. can use this to really get back into rap the way he he he wanted to. Um I mean, but he didn't need it. Is that what something he announced? I didn't hear that announcement. I thought I heard this, but maybe I'm bugging. I heard J. Cole say that, but I don't I don't believe him either. I think when you're a musician, though, I don't believe I don't I don't believe it anyway. I feel it's hard to stay away. Well, you're gonna be on a verse, you're gonna uh feature, you know what I'm saying? You're gonna do something. So I never I don't take much stock into that. I can see why they don't want to make kind of bodies of music anymore because they feel like yeah, I've told my story, how much more but there also is more growth, you know what I'm saying? Right. Um, I respect T.I. for getting into comedy, for trying different things, because you know what I mean. He'll start from the bottom there, people say, What are you doing? Uh so he ain't scared of nothing to get into any type of level. I respect 50 Cent for being a producer in the television game and becoming like a boss in that level. And and to see what he's done with the documentary about Diddy, the show power, everything that he's built, is huge. I just thought this was unnecessary, and I hate that that is what rappers are doing. And these aren't even, I don't want to say they're not current rappers, but they're not the young boys in the game. They're too old for this shit.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

So y'all should be like showing how to behave as opposed to but it's like obviously this is 50's area, right? Well, it he's always been involved in beef. Like that's how that for him, I believe that's the the that's the biggest selling mechanism.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Kick them the door, kick them the door with it.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Um start a beef, whether it's real or not, and make people pay attention. Um, I just don't like the you know he he's always kind of been a bully. Um I just think there's levels, and it's just kind of like you don't gotta pick a fight with everybody.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

I don't think he views it like that. And you know what's funny? It's funny you bring that up. Well, two things that hit me. You ever noticed uh remember what 50 Cent's first song was? How to rob, right? Not his first song, but the first mainstream when he blew up was how to rob. Who's on the hook of how to rob?

SPEAKER_02 10:07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

Remember the um remember the biggie interlude, the mad rapper? Okay, I'm pretty sure that's Derek D.Angeletti, one of the producers that used to be down with Bad Boy, but it's the mad rapper on the hook of that song. This ain't serious, being broke can't make you delirious, so we robin' still, da da da, you know what I mean? So like he's going on that, which I always thought was kind of ironic because that was that's Diddy's production crew, right? And that's like 50's first song to see where that had come full circle. But even when you just said that with the beef, right? I thought of an interview I heard from Cam recently where he's like, When me and 50 linked up, he's like, I shit, we happen with music, and you know, we both kind of petty, but when we spoke, it was about he said maybe 10-15 years after they little swabble, you know what I'm saying, that they had in the music. And and he said the first thing I said was, yo, let's get this money. And and 50 was like, yo, that's what I like to hear. Like, you know what I'm saying? For real, let's get this money. Because I don't think they view a person like Cam or even a person like 50 don't view rat beef as real beef. It's not real beef. It can turn into real beef, but it's not real beef. But while I know 50 too, another story, Chamillionaire, and this is all from YouTube Shorts, it's funny. But like, you know, you learn a lot about people from YouTube Shorts. Like, Chamillionaire said 50 this. I don't remember 50 this and chamillionaire, but I guess he had said some line about him, right? Um, Chameleonaire was like 50 Cent had diss me.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

I was thinking like, man, 50 was cool the whole time. Every time I saw him, what's wrong with him? So I was somewhere waiting for him. I saw him walk in in the hallway. I looked, he's about to walk past me. I grabbed him like, yo, what's up, man? Like, wait, I'll stop. He looked at me and grabbed me and pulled me in the room. So everybody probably thought he was going like Earth me or something, but it's on the updates. Your real life start when your rap career ends.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

So I I I look at 50 like, yo, he does do some of this stuff to keep relevance, to keep yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

I mean, that's his that's his go-to move. Yeah, the beef. I mean, even like when he was um that that big thing with Kanye when they was releasing on the and he kind of remember graduation versus um Yeah, like and he started going at Kanye. Like he even said, I mean, that wasn't real, yeah. But it was so we always known that this is just 50's way. It's just I I guess for me, I don't like it in in in situations where I feel it can go beyond just the the wax piece, and it's just kind of like, come on, no, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

You don't even need to do that no more. When the year started, I think one of the first things I heard was Dame Dash. Dame Dash saying that people like Cam, he used Cameron and he used Charlemagne as an example. Charlemagne just got the big deal with iHeart. And he was saying, You ever notice that after they diss me, they get their big deals? And I and and as he said it, I was like, Oh, there's no way Dame Dash believes this. Like, you know what I'm saying? But he's doing that same. He's trying to do what 50 does, that what 50 does well, he doesn't do it as well, right? So, but you know, it's like, yo, you don't even believe that, bro. I'm not even gonna waste my time having an opinion on that because it's like there's no way you honestly go to bed at night thinking that Charlemagne got a deal because he dissed you, or that Cameron got I see the work they do, you know what I'm saying? So to me, I was like, oh, I can't take that serious, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're just doing this for relevancy, you're just doing this so people could cook, and then so hopefully Charlemagne responds, hopefully Cameron responds, and they keep your name. And luckily, if it kind of felt like they kind of caught on and they they weren't really onto it. But it's like it feels all I'm just tired of us doing that, and by us black people, adult, like I've I've I've said it million times in this podcast, we look at other genres of music, people don't always get along, but it ain't like all built around now. We gotta have beef, and now we gotta have songs about each other and and and memes and all that. And it's just like when we do that, like it shows it shows another level. And also, them drill rappers mess the game up, I think, with all the shit that they've been doing with smoking on the pack and making videos, dancing on people's graves, that like there's no limits. Yeah, there's no like boundaries, it's it's as disrespectful as it can get.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

And that's yeah, I don't like when I when the perception is, you know, and it's not a perception, it's the actual facts. Like, I don't like to see us consistently just always tearing each other down. Um, and that's just sometimes what I feel like with 50. I mean, obviously, like when he's just oh, I'm gonna make a doc about Jay, I'm gonna make a doc about LeBron, I'm gonna make a doc. Like, I like chill out.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

You know, like now you're weaponizing but but it's but you're only pointing that weapon at the community. There you go.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

So that that was the only issue I really have with him.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

No, yeah, it gets a little whack. And and I think as role models, we have to take a place as role models. Because we're gonna talk about it a little bit later, but like female rap, I feel like female rap has no role models. Like, I need a Missy Elliott to come out right now and just come in, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 15:18

Cause I just feel like the female role model in rap um it's not a single person, but it's kind of like it's all about women empowerment. Um, we don't need dudes. Um, we can get it on our own. You know, dudes ain't ish. Essentially, what dudes did onto women for decades, like, you know, women are like these rapping women are like taking that power back and doing it on back onto the male.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

But it doesn't to me, and it might just be to me, I'm not gonna say to everybody, but I agree. I think that's what they're saying. But then how come all y'all have to shake your ass? Oh, how come all y'all have to show your ass? Right?

SPEAKER_02 16:01

Well, they know that's what sells.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

But then so now you're appealing to man. You're literally appealing. So, like, I'm gonna sit here and shit on man, man, man, man. But I know in order to even get attention, if the men ain't looking at me, nobody's even gonna listen to me. So it's complex, obviously, you know. Um But you could be a Missy Elliott, right? That that maybe looked in the mirror and was like, well, I'm not gonna shake ass and I'm not gonna show my ass and people gonna love me, right? But I have to win with the talent. I gotta kill it with the talent, you know what I'm saying? Or like like there's a rhapsody's and there's people in the game that's not shaking their ass to get and we don't pay as much attention. Exactly. We looking at the ice spice dressed like Betty Boop, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, we'll get into more of the female rap stuff, but it's it's just to me, it's just like it's in a weird place when the role models ain't acting like they should be. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 16:45

But Charles Barkley Role models YNs, whether it's male or female, don't really have role models nowadays.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

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