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Dr. Cliff Redford (00:10)

morning and good day everyone. It is Thursday morning, a couple of days before this podcast launches I guess. And I'm on my way to Shades of Hope. It has been three weeks in a row with snow storms, which is fine. I actually like the snow, it's beautiful, it's fun to play in. The dogs friggin' love it.

But why is it the last three weeks, the three big snow storms have occurred either the day before or the morning of, like the night before the morning of my drive to Shades of Hope and it's snowing slash frozen rain, frozen snow, I guess all snow's frozen. You guys know what I mean. It's yucky, it's yucky. And my,

buck 20 drive to Shades of Hope is now gonna cost me a dollar 40 in time. That's an hour 40 for all you people who don't speak cool like me. It's like whatever. And then you get out of the house late because you gotta shovel the driveway and et cetera, et Boy oh boy, but it'll be fun. And today's election day in the province of Ontario.

The Liberals and the NDPs are going to fail in their attempt to knock out Premier Ford.

He's, I wonder how many conservative supporters will admit that he's been a big disappointment for them.

He seems to have given deals and made money for his friends, given deals to his crony buddies, just like all the other politicians. All right, no politics. And I can't be that cynical because I just don't care. But I am gonna vote. I'll be voting probably 10 minutes before the polls close on my way home from work late this evening. It's a long day today.

Yeah, so we're going to see. We're going to see what happens I think this week. We're going to do a Shades of Hope update. It's always fun. That's assuming something really, really cool happens at the shelter at the wildlife rehab today. I guess if you're listening to this, this means something did interesting happen. But while I do that, let's contemplate what the week has been.

I've been doing a lot of work on this PowerPoint presentation. I am speaking to the vet students, those in the wildlife club at St. George University, which is Cayman Islands, I think. It's in the Caribbean. Anyway, it's one of those international schools.

I've done various talks for them before. This one is titled, What I Learned as a Volunteer Wildlife Vet. And I've only got 45 minutes to talk about this. Boy, have I learned a lot as I'm going through sort of my, as brainstorming ideas and also wanted to find ideas where I had good.

X-rays to match and good videos to match because I want to want to keep these guys inspired I want to inspire them to volunteer as well and the reality is is I've learned a lot Boy, boy. I mean I when I first started shades of hope

I was, I still am. I was a good surgeon, soft tissue primarily. Didn't really do orthopedics, didn't do orthopedics at all other than I have taken a course and for about a year did my own ACL cruciate ligament repairs, which are ligaments that get torn in the knee of dogs. shoot, I just missed my turn. I assumed I was gonna be going...

all the way north on 48. But apparently not. All right, well now I am. Now the GPS is saying. All right, gotta, boy, talk to myself. You're not allowed to text, that's good. Not allowed to play on your phone, that's good. But sometimes just talking to yourself.

and talking to you guys, talking to yourself distracts you. All right, back on track or on the new track. Where was I? Yeah, when I started at Shades of Hope six-ish years ago, I think it'll be seven years, seven year-ish. I think it'll be seven years this summer, but I'm not entirely sure. I had no orthopedic experience other than cruciate ligament repairs and that's the ligament. It's yes, it's the joint, but you're not really doing bone surgery other than.

potentially putting a little screw into the shelf of the tibia. But they basically said, you gotta learn. You're have to learn how to figure this out, because we see a lot of birds with broken bones, and you're our only vet, so figure it out. And so basically gonna be going through the history of that, and that, you know.

I basically looked at x-rays of what other vets had done pre and post and read this book that was primarily on wild bird care and really focused a lot on orthopedics and how you size the pins that go within the bone or how you have the pin exit a certain...

tip of the bone to avoid hurting the joint and you can later then pull the pin out because you can't leave the pin because then the bird's wing is too heavy or leg is too heavy and they can't fly. All these cool things and how my first couple of patients both were raptors one was an owl one was a red-tailed I believe and both of them died.

under anesthetic, not because of surgery. One died before I even had a chance to do surgery and the other died after the surgery was successful. The one that died beforehand, I still did the surgery on the cadaver. And I would also get the occasional animal that had passed away and I would break their wing or break their leg and then fix it.

I wonder if that's how doctors did it back in the old days. I'm sure they did. I guess they probably still do to a point, but I just imagine them, you know, hundreds of years ago taking a cadaver and cracking its shin with a sledgehammer and then trying to put it back together. But they probably didn't have the same, they basically cast her amputate, cast her amputate.

Maybe, I don't know. Anyway, so yeah, I've learned a lot and then, you know, now it gets to the point where I can look at an X-ray and not only do I know how to fix it, if it's fixable, but I know if it's fixable and I know, okay, this can probably be fixed, but here's where the complications are gonna be.

let's go in and take a look, because maybe the fracture is more severe once we're able to sort of see it with our own eyes instead of through the x-ray. All kinds of different things like that. And I've gone to complicated fractures that need external fixation, even done some mammals, and I'll tell the story of how I...

did surgery on the shin, a broken shin, tib fib bone of an American bullfrog and how the anesthetic was a real challenge. But I'll save that story for another time. So yeah, it's been fun. I've been working on that and then I'm gonna use the same.

presentation though i have to shorten it a tiny bit for wannabe veterinarian students so basically high school and early university students and often their parents at a program this will be my third year volunteering my time for the day program at the university of guelph called discover vet school and

It's been fun because as I said, I, this might even be my fourth year. I got to check, but it's at least my third. And I remember meeting a few.

young men and women and I'm very like welcoming and come and sit with me at lunch. If you have questions, I'm happy to talk. And you know, there's only be a few that would be sort of brave enough to step out of their comfort zone and introduce themselves. And we would start talking and a few of them have kept in touch and I've sort of offered them some advice and some cheerleading and encouragement for entering vet school. Cause as I've said before, I really, really love this job.

I don't love it when I'm dealing with this horrible weather and I got to drive 100 kilometers, but

What can you do? I guess I still love the job and that's why I'm still doing this. I've actually, two of them have made it into vet school now, into University at Guelph. So it's fun, it's heartwarming to sort of see what these kids can do and me playing a very, very tiny part in it. So it's...

It's exciting, I'm looking forward to it. So I'm do a similar talk, except it's gonna be a little less technical for obvious reasons. Yeah, for obvious reasons, it'll be a little less technical. But yeah, so I've been working on that. And, you know, I gave you guys an update on the movie and the television show, and that's sort of at a snail's pace is moving forward. But still, moving forward, so that's good.

And the book, so I have two now, actually two, not production companies, publishers that have expressed enough interest in the book to at least read the proposal, read the sample chapters, and then say some nice things about it, and then ask for the whole manuscript for the entire 93,000 words.

So that's good. The second one was a surprise. I had sent them some stuff over a month ago and they basically reached out to me sort of apologizing for the delay, but we were handing it over to our sciencey person and this is what ended up happening. So yeah, so now I get to flirt with two publishers.

I'm not very good at flirting. But we'll just see what happens and I'll keep you guys posted. So that's what the week's been and my gosh, I gotta tell you about this one surgery. We had this nine year old Pomeranian come.

into the clinic and I talked about it the last podcast with the bladder stones and how her her bladder was like 90 full of stones and I wasn't sure if it was a whole bunch of stones or

like hundreds or if they had all sort of fused together into one rock. I was kind of hoping to have them fused together into one rock because that would have been more spectacular. Or so I thought, we ended up removing those stones and I'm post a story before this podcast gets posted on my Instagram. So please go check it out at drcliffworldwidevet. And we removed 1,205 stones.

from this you know 13 pound dog. Now most of those stones were a millimeter which is what is that 1 25th of an inch that's pretty good math 1 25th of an inch very small basically very very small and you know but they but you know she did have like 15 or 20

stones that were a centimeter, a little bit bigger than a centimeter, is centimeters, 40 % of an inch, two and a half centimeters going to an inch, I believe. So basically big stones and then a whole bunch of medium stones and then a whack ton of little, little itty bitty stones.

I literally use an espresso spoon to scoop them out. Espresso spoons are nice because they're long and thin and the spoonie part is small enough that it can fit into a small incision of a bladder. So that little girl is doing fantastic. You know, there is a little worry that because her bladder has remained full for so long, like she obviously hasn't been able to...

to avoid it fully, she hasn't been able to completely contract. There's a worry that the muscles have become weak, the bladder muscles, and maybe she's not gonna be able to contract fully and she's gonna have some urine retention issues. But there's medicine for that if we need it, which should help. the odds are she's just gonna take a few extra days to heal, but she'll do very, very well. So pretty exciting.

case for sure. So the guy in front of me is a little bit stuck on the road. It's so slushy and I think he has winter tires, but I'm he's not driving a stick shift like me. I always thank my dad, Papa Ross, who's listening to this podcast for teaching me how to drive stick. We didn't have a choice because that's what his car was. Learning how to drive stick when I was 16 years old and

And it really, really helps control things in the snow. And you never really get truly stuck because you can always rock back and forth from first to reverse, first to reverse. And you can pop the clutch and start the battery when you got a half dead battery, which I've had to do a few times. So, all right, so that's it for the intro. Stay tuned for some fun stories.

with Shades of Hope. Hopefully, I think I'm gonna use it regardless and even if there aren't some fun stories, there's a few other things I wanna talk about. So take this eight second music break from my good buddy Mirko and this will transition us into part two of this episode of Vet Life with Dr. Cliff.

Dr. Cliff Redford (15:37)

right, everyone, welcome back to VetLife. It is now Sunday. It's Oscar Sunday. Last time I chatted, was Shades of Hope Thursday. I don't know. I obviously used that opening because you've just listened to it. But unfortunately, nothing epic happened at Shades of Hope that I'm going to talk about. It was a great day.

save some lives and we also had to say goodbye to a few patients, which happens and we helped them pass away peacefully. But, yeah, it was, you know, just your usual possum tail tip amputations. I think there was a Roto, rock dove, with a broken. Humorous, not funny bone. but it was too broken, too close to the shoulder and open fracture and et cetera, et cetera.

All these complications. we ended up saying goodbye peacefully, but, um, I did want to talk about, so I was talking about bladder stones in the opening and, uh, cause I've had so many bladder stone cases. then on Friday yesterday, no, two days ago, we ended up seeing two dogs with bladder stones, um, two out of two, like the two that we X-rayed.

One was an incidental finding where X-raying the dog's knee and the abdomen happened to get in the way of the X-ray. And lo and behold, there's a giant crystalline rock. And the other one was a family member whose dog relatively knew clients, so he'd been with us for a couple of months and whose dog had bladder surgery like four weeks ago. And their other dog came in and had a history of bladder stones.

Et cetera, et cetera. And so I was like, yeah, you know, I don't think what's going on. Cause the animal is sick is actually what's caused it is caused by bladder stones, but I do want to X ray to take a look at the, uh, the cranial abdomen, the front of the abdomen. It seemed painful. Um, and lo and behold in the caudal abdomen, cause you take a whole view anyways. Um, the animal was small and the caudal abdomen in the rear of the abdomen where the bladder is, there's probably 20 stones.

So there's a lot going on. So, oh my goodness, stones, stones, stones. I'm starting to think if I like X-rayed every small fluffy dog between the ages of five and 10, probably at least 5 % of them would have bladder stones, which is a problem. So it is Oscar day. I don't why I bring that up. Who cares? But we did see, my wife and I saw the movie, something, oh, what is it?

It was the Kiernan Kulkin movie and Jesse Eisenberg. Darn it. But it's about two sort of different cousins, two cousins that are quite different from each other and they're reconnecting on a trip to Poland. is Kiernan Kulkin won a Golden Globe for it? Shoot, I should remember this. I think he's up for an Oscar for.

for acting as well tonight, which he would definitely deserve. But I haven't seen the other movies, so who knows? But it was free on Disney, so I recommend it. I wish I could think of the name. Anyways, so we are, very excited to announce a new segment on that life with Dr. Cliff. And this segment is called Dad Knows Best. So here it is.

Ross Redford (19:28)

Hey, it worked. There I am.

Dr. Cliff Redford (19:30)

There you are!

Now you're crooked.

Ross Redford (19:37)

let's go up there. No, that's too far away.

Why don't you just use Zoom?

Dr. Cliff Redford (19:47)

Zoom, this is like an editing app as well as everything. So it like cleans up the audio and I can add music or maybe I'll have you record a intro to this segment. And then I can like cut and paste that intro into all the future segments.

Ross Redford (20:10)

Like, hi, I'm Ross Redford, I'm Dr. Cliff's dad.

Dr. Cliff Redford (20:15)

Yeah, so you could say, you could say, hi, I'm Ross. I'm Dr. Cliff's dad and you're listening to my favorite segment, Dad Knows Best.

Go, try it.

Ross Redford (20:27)

I keep getting a guy from church sending me a text.

Dr. Cliff Redford (20:31)

I don't hear it. try that. You want me to like text you what I just said?

Ross Redford (20:36)

No, no, because I won't. Hi, I'm Ross and I'm close to dad and I'm this is my favorite segment.

Time with Dad.

Dr. Cliff Redford (20:52)

Dad knows best.

Ross Redford (20:56)

Let's start over. Okay. Hi, I'm Ross. I'm Dr. Cliff's dad. And this is my favorite short segment of Dad Knows Best.

Dr. Cliff Redford (20:58)

Try again one more time and then we will.

Perfect. All right, I will cut and paste that out and we'll use that to open. All right, how you doing? Welcome to my podcast, dad.

Ross Redford (21:19)

Well, thanks. Glad I could make it. It wasn't easy to get in.

Dr. Cliff Redford (21:23)

It is

a very select few that get to be here, but yeah, it's a little bit tricky sometimes with technology.

Ross Redford (21:29)

it's

easier to get through the gate at our home.

Dr. Cliff Redford (21:33)

Yeah, that's right. You're in one of those, quasi quasi security gated communities, in the beautiful, beautiful city of Brampton. excellent. Yeah. So, you're like, wouldn't say you're my biggest fan, but you're definitely my most consistent listener. You're like the perfect dad that goes to a little league and.

Ross Redford (21:42)

You can walk in, you can drive in.

Dr. Cliff Redford (22:00)

dance recitals and choir recitals and you're just here to support your kids. I know you sure did.

Ross Redford (22:04)

I did that too. I did that too. And then

I listened and I fact-checked.

Dr. Cliff Redford (22:12)

That's right. That's right. So that's why I'm having you on. for the listeners here, and I've talked about it on some of my podcasts, my dad, Ross Redford often emails me and corrects me, which I appreciate. Like it's, you know, I'll be thinking about, well, so, well, yeah, I don't want to give up the secrets here, but I'll be, I'll be maybe thinking out loud about something and how big is like Ontario? Is it the biggest or how, how much, you know, how long is that? It's gotta be 400 kilometers, something like that. And then you send me a

and email with articles and specific dimensions and whatnot. So, dad knows best, there you go. Well, yeah, don't Google it because I just, off the cuff, right? And I'm just chit chatty too much and I don't plan half of these things. So, let's get this short segment on the way here. Let's get it going. You had, based on the last podcast, you had sent me a correction. I think I had guessed that Canada's

Ross Redford (22:44)

with the Google amount.

Dr. Cliff Redford (23:11)

population was about 36 million, but it is not right.

Ross Redford (23:14)

Yeah, and I thought it was 41, but when I googled it, it gave me a figure of just under 40 million.

Dr. Cliff Redford (23:22)

Okay, so approximately. Gotcha. So we'll say 40 million. I had always sort of thought of it as one tenth the population of the US. What's the US's population, do know?

Ross Redford (23:23)

at the end of February.

I don't know that. have to Google it when I get off, but I think about 350.

Dr. Cliff Redford (23:37)

There you go.

Yeah, so that's why I was guessing 36 million, but.

Ross Redford (23:41)

We've

had so much immigration over the years, I think we passed the 10 % a while ago.

Dr. Cliff Redford (23:48)

Yeah, we're growing faster than them. Maybe people like us just as much or maybe a little bit more.

Ross Redford (23:55)

Mine is

more undocumented than us proportionately, I think.

Dr. Cliff Redford (24:00)

That's true. That's true. Yeah, there's a there's a huge undocumented, but very well appreciated, hopefully, population in the US very well needed. That's for sure. well, some for some people there, a lot of people still really appreciate them. you know, it's, it's

Ross Redford (24:11)

Well, they're not appreciated.

up to the

government then and tell them not to send them home.

Dr. Cliff Redford (24:26)

Yeah, they got to make it easier or more fair. don't know. I don't know what the situation is. Anyways, let's not get into that. It's not our country to try and control and we will never be a part of that country. Did you see Mike Myers on Saturday Night Live? Did you know he was on Saturday Night Live?

Ross Redford (24:45)

Don't give away the ending. I never watch Saturday Night Live, but I recorded it last night.

Dr. Cliff Redford (24:50)

Okay, well, I won't give you the ending, Mike Myers, a good Toronto boy, first time in 10 years, he was on like a regular showing of Saturday Night Live and he was in the opening. He was doing a caricature of Elon Musk, which was pretty funny. But, and this isn't giving away the ending, at the end of the show when they're all saying goodbye and he's there.

he was wearing a Canada is not for sale t-shirt which was nice nice and fitting so

Ross Redford (25:26)

I heard

that on the radio this morning, but I didn't know. I only heard the end. didn't know what the show was. And Joyce said she thought it might have been for the Oscars tonight.

Dr. Cliff Redford (25:36)

No, that's yeah, because that's tonight.

Ross Redford (25:38)

Maybe there

might be another one tonight. The Canadians are everywhere, right? We are among them and they don't always recognize us.

Dr. Cliff Redford (25:41)

all i'm sure conan o'brien's probably gonna bring it up

Yeah, a lot of, think a lot of Americans will be, they'll be, they'll be like, I didn't know that actor was Canadian or I didn't know that musician was Canadian. especially if they're dual citizenship, but, all right. So another thing you kind of not corrected me on, but I guess I had assumed, cause I was talking about the H5N1 vaccine, the, avian flu vaccine and my, hesitation.

about whether or not I need it. And I'll be honest, I was sort of picturing you rolling your eyes going, Cliff, you should just take the vaccine. But you surprised me. You came back and said, it doesn't sound like you need it, that the, I guess the risk to benefit or the need to benefit ratio isn't there. that's how I feel. the likelihood of me getting avian influenza is low and.

The likelihood of me getting sick is low. And then if I get sick, the likelihood of me getting really sick is really low. So I'm, I'm going to probably hold off. but what about like shingles vaccines? I'm seeing all these articles or all these, it's not.

Ross Redford (26:59)

People might

get shingles vaccines and I think we may have gotten a second one or Joyce may have gotten a second one because there was a new and improved one and we went for that. We're fortunate to have good insurance so we only pay 10 percent.

Dr. Cliff Redford (27:07)

Right.

Shingles wouldn't be covered with OHIP, the singles vaccine.

Ross Redford (27:20)

I

think it may be covered now, but we got it before it was covered.

Dr. Cliff Redford (27:24)

Yes, it should be

because you would cost OHIP a whole lot less getting the vaccine than you would getting sick with it.

Ross Redford (27:34)

But

when you get shingles, you can go in early and get an antidote and it goes away. You can get it after you've had the vaccination because Joyce had the vaccination. And it might have been her second time having shingles, but because she had the vaccination, she assumed the rash was something else. And by the time she went in,

Dr. Cliff Redford (27:44)

Yeah.

Hmm.

Ross Redford (28:03)

It was too late. But because she had had the vaccination, it was a mild case, kind of like getting COVID after you've had the vaccination.

Dr. Cliff Redford (28:14)

Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, mean, vaccines it's, it's incredibly rare that vaccines are 100 % protective. and for the ones that are very, very good, you can still get, you know, sort of milder versions. and the same thing with dogs and cats. you know, if they're vaccinated for rabies quite regularly, then, then you're pretty safe. the animal's pretty safe, but like with people.

Even if I had my rabies vaccines a few years ago, and then I had a titer a month ago to show that I'm protected because I keep getting my titers done and I haven't had to have a booster since 1993. My rabies protection has been lasting. It's probably going to last me my whole life. But regardless of all that, knowing that I'm protected, if I got bit by a rabid animal, which is probably likely in my future. I mean, I almost did in India.

very very close to getting bit by one that was confirmed to be rabid rabbit afterwards. They would still give me all the antitoxins like they're not taking the chance because if you get rabies you're dead so yeah not all are perfect but there you go. I think they're recommending shingles at 55 if you're 55 or older so I'm not there yet.

Ross Redford (29:14)

.

Yeah, so

people it shingles eventually they say it's one in three And I know people who have had it and it can be pretty miserable I

Dr. Cliff Redford (29:40)

Yeah!

Yeah, I mean, I only I only

know one person who's had it. But maybe it's because all the others are vaccinated. Who knows?

Ross Redford (29:54)

Well, you're

not old enough. Your friends aren't old enough.

Dr. Cliff Redford (29:58)

I know, but I have people in my life that are older than me, Dad. I have relatives. There you go. That's true. That is true. I seem to hang out with younger people too, especially at work, obviously. All right, so the last thing I want to wrap this up, and Dad knows best. And I can happily say that. Dad should know best.

Ross Redford (30:04)

Not as many as we have.

Dr. Cliff Redford (30:27)

You think my podcast is too long.

Ross Redford (30:32)

I think it could be shortened down to about half an hour or less.

Dr. Cliff Redford (30:36)

Yeah, I mean, technically it could be shortened down to two minutes. That's what Robin Sharma does. Robin Sharma's podcast, because I was talking to my lovely and probably knows best as well wife, Vaso, about this. And she's like, well, Robin Sharma's podcast is only two minutes. So it's not even a podcast. It's just like wise thoughts kind of thing by Robin Sharma. I thought of the day. That's right. But it only comes out occasionally. Yeah.

Ross Redford (30:55)

It's thought of the day. It's the thought of the day. Like most animals sometimes are.

Dr. Cliff Redford (31:03)

I'm going to disagree with you on this one. I would say the vast majority of successful podcasts are an hour. the number one podcast in the world by a landslide Joe Rogan's podcast is probably three hours per.

Ross Redford (31:23)

We wouldn't listen to that one.

Dr. Cliff Redford (31:25)

you should, you'd be surprised. he is a, he is a, very, I don't want to say progressive cause that's got a weird tone to it. he's a, he's a children of hippies. He believes in gay rights and the right to choose as far as abortion. He believes in freedom of speech. He believes in.

Trans writes, he is just he also believes in guns and he's a hunter and he's a tattooed cage fighting commentator.

Ross Redford (32:02)

Does he believe in their current government?

Dr. Cliff Redford (32:06)

Yeah, that's a funny one. I'm interested in what, I mean, I'm interested in what he's going to say with this last BS that happened. I can't swear while you're here, with how Trump, and Vance treated, Zelensky.

Ross Redford (32:07)

That's a

Joyce showed me a comic and it was, somebody said it to us, it said that there were 136 countries that helped out, helped the United States out after 9-11 and none of them asked for their money back.

Dr. Cliff Redford (32:35)

Mm-hmm.

And we didn't ask for thanks. That was like for JD Vance to say that you haven't even asked for thanks today. Are you 12? What is going on? Like, I mean, considering how well Zelensky did that English is his at least third language, it might be fourth or fifth if he also speaks maybe German or French or like, who knows?

Ross Redford (33:04)

Yeah

Dr. Cliff Redford (33:05)

But he speaks Russian first, Ukrainian second, and then English third. Boy, he kept his cool, which I guess he had to. So regarding podcast lengths, I listen to Victory the Podcast, which is the guys that put together the Entourage show that is probably my favorite comedy series. And theirs is minimum 45 minutes.

Ross Redford (33:22)

Okay.

Dr. Cliff Redford (33:34)

It's very rarely an hour, but it's usually around 45 minutes. Who else? Jessel Nick's podcast is close to an hour. I'm trying to think of even the BBC world news that I was on. They did a talk with me as part of their good news episode that they do once every two or three weeks. They do like 10 minute interviews, 15 minute interviews and each, each episode. there's two or three a week.

is close to an hour.

Ross Redford (34:05)

You

you didn't make it onto the 25 minute one that's on PBS every night at 530 or the weekend one unless it was the one I deleted

Dr. Cliff Redford (34:15)

Was it BBC News podcast?

Ross Redford (34:19)

It's a TV program.

Dr. Cliff Redford (34:21)

no, no, no, I didn't make it under there. I don't have a face for TV. Maybe that's why the TV show's not working out. That might actually be working out. As you know, if you've been listening to my podcast, which I know you have, that's...

Ross Redford (34:34)

I've been listening,

you've got stuff on the go.

Dr. Cliff Redford (34:37)

Yeah, stuff on the go. Anyways, so I talk a lot and I'm sure I talk too much. Some people will agree. There's no way I can keep this under 30 minutes. No way. But with that, we could wrap this up and then at least this segment's only probably about 14 minutes long.

Ross Redford (35:00)

You're going to cut it shorter, right? You're going to leave some of this out. you.

Dr. Cliff Redford (35:03)

no, not at all. I really just...

I just edit the beginning and the end. That's it.

Ross Redford (35:08)

or you should be cutting some of this out.

Dr. Cliff Redford (35:11)

No, that's it. All right, well, I'm gonna say bye now because you're making me feel bad, Love you, dad, and you can keep sending me your corrections, but we're gonna talk about it once a month approximately.

Ross Redford (35:16)

Bye Cliff. Let's do this again sometime.

Yeah, you know your brother doesn't take any corrections, so I figure this is good.

Dr. Cliff Redford (35:31)

Well, I'm a better son than he is. That's not true. We're all awesome and you're an awesome dad. All right. Bye dad. Love you.

Ross Redford (35:42)

Bye, love you too.

Dr. Cliff Redford (35:43)

All right, everyone, thanks for listening. that was my dad and he does know best, for most things, him and I, him and I disagree in a few things, but it's more like opinions. It's not obviously data. but, he's a, he's a smart guy. I really, I really appreciate it. I always like talking to him. and I definitely get my gift of gab from him and my storytelling capabilities from him. So that's, that's exciting.

The last thing I want to talk about today is I kind of did a bit of a detour. I had talked about chat GPT last week and I started to do that search for that survey about how chat be chat. I just can't call him chat him her it chat is wrong. X number of percentages of the time, like more often wrong than not. so I did that Google search and instead I didn't really find the article.

I didn't really look that hard. I man looked, you know what's different? You know what's worse than man looking? Man vet looking. That's the absolute worst. Do women vets look horribly when they're looking for drugs? Like do they search horribly? If someone in the vet industry could reach out and let me know. Definitely male veterinarians. I would say is that accurate generalization to say that they're lazy lookers. My mom said I was always a lazy looker.

and she would then say, got it from my father. sorry, dad. I love you. anyways, so, but I ended up, what I ended up finding was this, this vet GPT. So it's a chat GPT, veterinarian specific. And so we're going to, we're going to see how this guy's doing. I'm going to, I'm going to refer to him as a guy. I mean, I'm used to, I kind of maybe look at him like me. so that's why I say male.

Do not, I'm not, I'm not making any assumptions here. Obviously it's an it. so vet GPT, I am, it says here, I am your veterinary AI assistant. can ask me questions about animal health symptoms, nutrition and behavior. will answer your questions to the best of my abilities. Please do not use me for any actual veterinary needs, but rather for general education and investigative purposes. All right. And they have like some, they have like some general questions.

There are some four questions here so I'm going to click on the first one. What to do if my dog is vomiting? Let's see. So if your dog is vomiting follow these steps. Assess the vomit and symptoms. Is the vomit food, bile or foam? Any blood, unusual color or objects? Other symptoms like diarrhea, lethargy or bloating? Withhold food and water temporarily. No food for 6 to 12 hours to rest the stomach. Offer small amounts of water to prevent dehydration. Monitor behavior.

If vomiting is mild and improves, reintroduce a bland diet, boiled chicken and rice in small portions. Seek a vet immediately if vomiting is frequent, persistent or accompanied by concerning symptoms, weakness, bloating, pain or blood. Would you like help narrowing down possible causes based on your dog's symptoms?

Would you like help narrowing down? Okay, well how do I say yes, please? Good response, bad response, edit. Anyways, I will say my dog is vomiting.

No diarrhea. I got to spell this right. No diarrhea.

painful abdomen and he may have eaten his bone.

Let's see what it says. sounds like your dog may have an intestinal blockage or injury from the bone, especially with vomiting and a painful abdomen. This can be very serious. What to do now? Seek emergency vet care immediately. Bone fragments can cause blockages, perforations or internal bleeding, which require urgent medical attention. Until you get to the vet, do not induce vomiting. It could make things worse. Prevent eating or drinking until assessed.

Keep your dog calm and limit movement to avoid worsening a possible obstruction. Time is critical in these cases. Please get your dog to a vet as soon as possible. Let me know if you need help with signs of a worsening emergency. All right, that was pretty decent. Okay, let's do, what's another common, here, I'm gonna say my dog has a fishy smell.

odor, we should say odor, coming from his bum and he is scooting, no, let's say dragging his bum on the ground. What is it?

Do do do. wow, Chad GPT is pretty good. It sounds like your dog may have impacted or infected anal glands. Dogs have two small glands near their anus that release a fishy smelling fluid. If they don't empty properly, they can become swollen, uncomfortable, or even infected. Signs. Fishy odor, scooting, licking or biting the area, swelling or redness near the anus. What to do? Check for swelling or discharge, mild cases. Your vet or groomer can express the anal glands manually if infected.

Red swollen or painful. Your dog may need antibiotics or treatment from a vet. All right. Good job chat. and actually this thing about groomers expressing the glands, think that's fine. technicians can do it. Groomers can do it. The, but that makes me think of the situation of, should you get your dog's anal glands regularly expressed? Because a lot of groomers, especially the air quotes, old school groomers will.

Express anal glands with every grooming and I tell people no the reality is If it's not broken don't fix it every time you force the anal gland to release its contents You are causing mild trauma You're causing inflammation that can lead to pain that can lead to swelling that can lead to a blockage Which can lead to infection which can abscess and it can actually pop Maybe scar tissue is formed and so it sets up a problem later on

So I just tell people if there's nothing wrong, leave it. If the groomer knows how to check if it's too full, if it's impacted, then they can express it. But a lot of them at that point don't want to express it because it can be painful. And what if they do it and then they see blood or they see a pustular fluid, then they got to send you to the vet, et cetera, et cetera. But my recommendation is literally go and ask your groomer.

If they express regularly the anal glands and if they say yes, you say, thank you. Can you not, do it because, you know, that's, that's, you can cause problems. so boy chat GPT has done, has done really well. Let me try one last thing. We'll do cats here. My cat seems constipated. He.

very important it's got to be male I think a few cat lovers know what I'm going getting at here he goes to his litter often see how slow I am at typing I use like five fingers like two and three he goes to his litter often and tries to pee howls a little

but nothing happens. Let's see what he says. This could be a medical emergency. shoot, I screwed it up. I said he tries to pee. Okay, so he's basically saying get to the vet right away. Let's try this again. My cat is constipated.

He tries to go poop in the litter. He pushes real hard.

even howls.

but nothing is happening. So this is the thing is a lot of people will call us and say, we think our cat's constipated, but they're actually either have a UTI and their bladder is essentially empty, but it burns. So it gives them the sensation of having to urinate or they're blocked, which is obviously as much more serious. Let's see what he says here.

if you're cat is strained to poop constipation is likely, if it's severe howling repeated straining, needs attention. so basically talks mostly about constipation, true poop issues causes dehydration, hairballs, lack of fiber, obesity or lack of exercise. my goodness. And that talks about different, dietary things you can do hydration.

And then that visit is needed if no poop for more than 48 hours, severe straining or howling and pain vomiting or refusing to eat abdomen feels hard or bloated. Um, and it talks about mega colon. So the one thing chat. Didn't figure out is, Hey, this might be something else. Um, yeah. So, but, uh, but it did a good job. So chat GPT basically said, when in doubt, go to your vet. So, uh, that's fantastic. Whereas.

Dr. Google, the old school, it's not even AI, but the old school answer. the, the, the answering service, that was just data. That was just like your own research. whereas this AI stuff's pretty legit. So I think I'm going to end the, the podcast this, this week. I hope you guys enjoyed the new segment dad knows best. and I hope you guys enjoyed listening to, to my pops, Mr. Ross Redford.

All right. Thanks everyone for listening. Be kind to animals, people yourself, all that stuff. and I'd love obviously share the podcast. Give me a five star rating, whatever it is, however you, you tend to listen to me on whatever platform. but reach out to me. Who thinks my podcast is too long? Who thinks it's too short? I know my friend Chelsea likes it to be close to an hour. I think she said something about listening to it.

in Costco that she likes it. She likes it to keep her, keep her company while she's in Costco. Who gets out of Costco in an hour? I stuck there for days. That's why they have all that food. anyways, yeah, I'd love to hear what people think. as far as it being shorter, as far as it being, 30 minutes or a little bit less, who's, who's more right? Do you guys think my dad or me?

Anyways, this is VetLife with Dr. Cliff. I'm Dr. Cliff and thanks so much for listening. Bye.