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Killionaire #author Scott Leckie
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Book 1 of 1: The Pacifica Series
Five Billionaires. One Planet. No Mercy.
Five billionaires built their fortunes on social media manipulation, toxic mining, deadly weapons, tainted drinks, and the destruction of the world’s last forests. Together, they became “Los Cincos” — the most dangerous men alive, symbols of a global elite willing to sacrifice the planet for profit.
And then they vanished.
As the world hunts for answers, political visionary Nathan Green launches Pacifica — a radical ecological society rising from two remote islands in Tonga. Fueled by redirected billionaire wealth and a bold psychedelic philosophy, Pacifica sparks a global movement challenging inequality, corruption, and the billionaire class itself.
But the richest 0.1 percent won’t surrender their power. Their grip on AI, corporations, and governments threatens to crush Pacifica before it can change the world.
Nathan and his allies strike back with a daring mission: end billionairism forever and prove a new way of living is possible. Their plan is audacious, dangerous, and broadcast to a world desperate for hope.
One mystery hangs over everything: Did a brazen, unsolved crime ignite this revolution… or is something far more shocking at play?
Only the Killionaire knows.
To connect with Scott ...
https://www.scottleckie.com.au/killionaire
Good afternoon, Scott Lakey. Welcome back to Yellow Shelf. You're like an old friend coming back.
SPEAKER_01Great to be back, of course.
SPEAKER_00We were just laughing, you know, saying uh nine months, time flies. You're you've got another book I get to share. Congratulations. Killianair, tell us all about it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, thanks very much. Well, it's you know, I've written a lot of books throughout my life, and they've all been, you know, legal in nature and human rights in nature, and you know, a million and one UN reports and stuff like that. And nowadays I figure it's better to shift into fiction and novel writing mode. So that's what I did. So I wrote my first novel ever, and it came out a couple months ago called Killianaire. And it's uh it's a political thriller, it's part utopian, part dystopian. Um, and hopefully it takes readers on a wild ride through the creation of utopian paradises and um gives a glimpse into the true lives of five select billionaires who become the targets of the good guys.
SPEAKER_00And what is it about us humans? We we're curious about the filthy rich.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean, I think everybody has a at least a tiny bit of uh envy. Uh you know, like, oh, if I I could only be that rich, then I could be truly happy, you know, then I could be truly free. Um, but the you know, when you start thinking about it a bit more deeply, that's probably not actually the case. And you know, the the fact of the matter is is that you know, there uh we there's 8.3 billion of us now on planet earth. Um, you know, the largest population the earth has ever had at any given time. And of those, a tiny proportion, around 3,400, have literally nine zeros in their bank account. Um, and that's and some have even more than that. So it's this tiny group of people they could fit in one section of the you know, MCG if you know what that means to non-Australians, you know, the Melbourne Cricket Ground, the biggest stadium in Australia. Um, you could even fit them in the back garden, squeezed in of the average super. I mean, this is not a huge number of people. Yeah, eight of these guys, and they're all guys, like nine, there's eighty-eight percent of the world's billionaires are men. Eight of them have more wealth between them than the poorest 50 percent of humanity. 50 percent. Every single one of those humans as is as is uh is as invaluable as you or I, yeah, and yet 4.15 billion people have the same collective wealth as eight gentlemen who you could have sitting around your dinner table tonight. Yeah, it's that small of a number, and you know, so that's kind of what drove me. I mean, I'm an international human rights guy, I've worked all around the world, and then I was just kind of thinking, what you know, what issues should we focus on if I do make this very fun shift into novel writing and fiction where I can just make everything up and no footnotes and the whole thing? And then I thought, well, let's start with this issue that's in the news every single day a million times, the billionaires and the role that they have in in shaping the world we have, and what could people possibly do in a you know fictional setting to try to address this if normal, you know, legal means of of uh reform and reduction of wealth don't work. Um, and so I came up with this idea of you know a utopian society which is perfect in every way, and they start spreading like wildfire across the world, and you see these like you see viva Pacifica, viva graffiti all across the world. They call themselves Pacifica. It's on two islands in Tonga, two real islands, and um it starts growing like wildfire, and everybody, it's kind of like now. I mean, I tried to you know make the make it relevant to the real world today. Everybody's desperate for this new vision, right? This new way of moving forward because everybody's sick and tired of what's going on right now in the world. Whether you're left wing or right wing, it doesn't even really matter. Everybody's kind of like what's going on, everything's yeah, everything's falling apart and this and that. So, what's the vision, right? What's the next step of our political evolution as humans? And I personally, at the academic slash, you know, nonfiction level, work very much on this issue of world citizenship and unifying all of humanity once and for all, and trying to get beyond all these negative forces that are trying to drive us apart. So I thought, let's make a society up, Pacifica, that is based on those premises. And um, they start growing like wildfire, as I said, but then all of a sudden their growth stops, it just stops, it dead in its tracks, and they're like, What's going on? I thought, you know, everybody was like, so it was so popular, it was popular in Chile, and it was popular in South Africa, it was popular in Laos, everywhere. And but then it just stops, and then they do some like internal reassessments and they figure, oh, it's the billionaires. We gotta deal, we gotta deal with this issue. And so they go about their way in a very dramatic fashion, um, identifying you know, certain members of that class and trying to, you know, let's just say engage with them in ways that will ultimately uh result in a more equitable distribution of global wealth.
SPEAKER_00Uh Scott, do you want to tell us about um, you know, you mentioned novel, first novel. Um, you know, you've got this amazing back catalog of work, but you also mentioned that work has footnotes. So tell me what it was like writing a novel, diving into that, that experience. Please share about that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, sure. Well, I would say the vast majority of it is absolutely like more fun than any other any other work thing you could ever do, you know, because um, I mean, lucky for me, this is just my own personal thing. Yeah, you know, I when I'm in writing mode, novel writing mode, fiction mode, my mind is just you know going at a mile a minute, just trying to make not even trying to make stuff up, I just am making stuff up. Um, and then I wake up fresh as can be at 4 a.m. almost exactly. I don't even have to set the alarm. Yeah, and then I make my way across the house to my office, and then I write like a wild man from four four until eight, basically. It's kind of a four-hour thing, and then I usually stop when my fingers hurt rather than mine running out of ideas, yeah. And I use you know the next 16 hours, 18 hours to kind of follow up on what I just wrote. And well, that's all completely fun because I I mean I go to the absolute extreme, like so extreme. And I'm a you know, I'm an international human rights lawyer. I have many degrees, I teach law school sometimes. You know, I work for the UN. I'm a very normal guy, but at the same, you know, very engaged at a at a normal level, but I also have a very, you know, whatever you want to call it, creative imagination.
SPEAKER_00Creative side, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I and I don't, you know, so I just let it completely go out. And so, you know, I would challenge myself and say, okay, so today you're gonna write about this Dutch billionaire, and how just how gross can you make one human being sound, right? And then I just go to the absolute limits of what you know, it within a you know, reasonably foreseeable way a billionaire could actually act, you know. And so that's totally fun because I'm just laughing, laughing my head off. And you know, and the book I just finished, the second novel, it's it's it's uh the same protagonist, the same good the Pacifica's there, it's part of this Pacifica series, and it's all about dictators, you know, they're the bad guys in this one. Yes, and boy, like you know, they're I really let loose on the imagination, much more than against the billionaires. You know, this was really completely out there, but it's super fun to do. But then the hard part is, and that you know, back to your question, novel writing the the first 80% of the actual writing to me is super easy. It's that last 20%, which is really hard, yeah, and making absolutely certain that everything ties in with everything else, that you didn't say that Johnny Jones had green eyes on page seven and then he has brown eyes on page 380, you know, and and there's so many ways that the story can go haywire, and you forget to tie up this loose end and that loose end and everything. And I kind of wrote these, I mean, I wrote these books to be really like you know, basically fun and easy to read, um, totally out there, totally extreme, and um hopefully with a view to making them into movies. That's that's the ultimate goal. Okay, we'll convert into screenplays. Yeah, I mean, most people would like to see a movie that involves the you know demise of certain uh groups of people. I would so hopefully, and I you know I have the wheels in motion trying to make that happen, but it's very it's very hard, you know.
SPEAKER_00Sure. Well, you know, as you always do, keep persisting, Scott. Uh it's great to hear that there's more books down the track because I'm gonna want you to come back. Um yeah, uh, you know, I encourage everyone to dive into this one. Uh it's your first novel. It's it's it's an interesting read. It's an interesting read. Can I just also share? I'm gonna put the link in to our previous interview. We spoke yeah, less than a year ago about Shrewd Little Sleuth. You've got lots of books in your your back catalogue. I'll put a link to your website, but you're also on Instagram. Scott, do you want to point us in the direction if anyone is watching anywhere in the world and they do want to learn more about you and your work and your your writing, where would you like us to go?
SPEAKER_01Um, I guess first stop would be just scottle.com.au, which is my personal website that has all of my books and links to the organizations that I work in and things like that. And you know, I have a small fledgling um Instagram thing. I'm not really that into social media. I'm kind of forced to be into it, but it's it's I think scott.leckie.author. Yep, somebody else set it up for me. Um, and then you know, those from there you can find everything else. There's a lot of stuff out there on my work experience and little stories from all around the world.
SPEAKER_00Yes. And all and you're talking all around the world. It's um Scott, I love talking to you. I love knowing that there's more books to come. Hey, I mean, even you know, I'm gonna interview you when the movie, the series, whatever gets released. Uh, I love supporting you. Scott, thanks for coming back on.
SPEAKER_01Thank you. I always love being with you, Joe.
SPEAKER_00Cheers.
SPEAKER_01All right, see you soon.