Ryan Serhant Unleashed: Owning Manhattan Season Two Kickoff

Ryan Serhant joins Drew Appelbaum and Brian Henry to crack open Season Two of Owning Manhattan, calling it an “emotional skyscraper” stacked with tension, towers, and very real stakes.

From shower deals and moving-car exits to the fallout with Jordan March, fatherhood, and being painted as his own worst villain, Ryan gets uncomfortably honest about what this season cost him.

Plus, mustache wars, Jade poking every bear in sight, and who really had the biggest comeback of Season Two.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

My fight with Jordan March. I know he's angry. You made a choice. I don't give people what they think they're worth. I give them what they deserve. He goes from being fired to winning completely on his own. Jade always pokes the bear.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

All right, you ready to do this? I think I'm ready to do this. All right, here we are. Season two, Owning Manhattan Podcast is out now. My name is Drew Applebaum here with Brian Henry. That's me. We are from Sell It. We are the educational community, amazing wing of the Surham brokerage. We're so excited to have the best guest in here today. Some call him Daddy. Some call him Zaddy. Ryan Sirhan is joining us for the first episode. Welcome.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Hey. I was looking for Daddy. I was like, whoa, who is this magical figure that's coming in? Hey, everybody. Exciting. So I've seen season two. You have? Yeah. Okay, great. Question one. Yes. How are you doing? How am I doing? You okay? Yeah. You put a lot out there this year. You you doing okay? No, I'm not okay. Okay. I'm not no. I'm having a hard time here, Brian. Um, it depends on the day, right? When you ask me that. Um, like we're shooting this right now. I've been traveling a lot for the past couple weeks. Today I'm just in a mood um and moving hard on people. Tomorrow I'll probably be fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Great. Yeah. I feel like you open up a lot. I feel like we saw some vulnerabilities.

SPEAKER_02 1:24

Bri guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

Um, you're not allowed to our Ryan meetup, by the way. That's a rule. Do you see that? Uh yeah. We're doing a Ryan meetup where we're gonna use Sirhand House here in Soho. If your name is Ryan, you can come and party and you know it's an Oni Manhattan thing, but if your name is Brian, you're not allowed.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

I had plenty of side anyway. Sorry, buddy. Yeah, yeah. It's okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

Listen, season two, the best way I can describe it is it's an emotional skyscraper. Some things are emotional roller coasters. This show is an emotional skyscraper. It is just tension on top of tension, on top of tension, on top of tension, on top of drension, and it just goes to the top until that absolute final moment in the season finale. So, like season one, I think built the world, right? Season two has now scaled the world, and the show also feels different. It was shot a little bit differently. We break the fourth wall a little bit differently. Like my favorite moments, um and maybe just you know, because I just push for them so strongly, is like that opening moment in season two opener. You've got voiceover, and you're like, what kind of reality TV show is this? And then the voiceover stops when you realize I'm talking directly to the camera, and it's kind of a like an unsettling wait, where's what is this show? Like, I don't actually understand now what we're watching. Like, this is not normal TV, and it kind of expands upon that redefinition of the genre so that the audience knows, like, we didn't make this just to hang out, like we showed up to play. Um, and then we bring that back with that bookends for anyone that's watched the season finale in the last second of the eighth episode, right? The moment goes, it's pure silence, the music crescendos, you're waiting to see what I'm gonna do, and the eyes just go directly to camera, and then it cuts to black. Yes, in a way that again, I've never seen in a reality TV show ever before, unless you guys have. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

That was my first time.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

Can we talk about walls and maybe lack of walls? Specifically in your apartment, this is the second season in a row. We got Ryan shower scene. So the question is how much business do you do in the shower? Hard pivot right there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Um yeah, I don't do frontal nudity anymore as a CEO. I just don't think it's great for the brand.

SPEAKER_03 3:52

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

Um, you know, or rear nudity, actually. I did that a lot in million dollar listing, different times now. I don't do a lot of business in the shower. It's when I come out of the shower that I can then answer my phone. And so sometimes I just come out of the shower and the phone's ringing and I got to pick it up. What am I gonna, you know, time kills deals. I'm in the real estate business. Sure, right? Time kills deals, you gotta move really, really quickly. They don't know what I'm wearing, except I think in that call we were on FaceTime. And then the move, the it just moves really quickly. I like that that deal again, like this show is so cool for me because I just know what it's like to make other TV shows. Because it we like it's shot in real time. Like that entire transaction, you know, happens over the course of the episodes, it explodes during sell it 24. Yes, one of our sell it.com events, right? We got hundreds of people, it's falling apart, and then the actual deal gets put together between the moment I get out of the shower and the moment I then put my shirt on. Right? Like it's it's it's state of undress to dress, going from no deal to deal, which I think is just kind of cool. Like again, it's something that I've never seen before on TV, and that's how things happen. You know, like conversations make or break your entire life, and sometimes they happen when you're just not ready, like when you're trying to put your pants on. You know, it's like it's kind of funny to watch, but it's also incredibly authentic.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Is that a Ryan superpower that you are not gonna turn off? You're not gonna like wait till you put your pants on to pick up that phone and seal that deal. Only when you call me, man.

SPEAKER_02 5:27

Um it depends on the call. You know, sometimes if the phone's ringing, I might just hit my little button right where you can have your auto responses. And I'm like, you know, thing, I'll call you right back. But if it's an active deal and I'm trying to put something together, I'll pick up the phone anytime. Sometimes I'd take the phone into the shower and I'll put it like on the other side, and then I've answered the phone in the shower before. People are like, what's that noise? You in the train? Like, I don't take the train.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

And and when it comes up to boxing, you find it easiest to do shirtless on a on a rooftop? Is that in February? Is that usually how that's when we shot that?

SPEAKER_02 6:00

In February on the roof. Yeah, yeah, with my trainer. Yeah, yes, yes, Brian. It is easier. Okay. How am I supposed to move? I haven't tried it, so I don't know. How am I supposed to move my team? I get warm. Yeah, I'm warm-blooded. I was born in Texas. I get very, very hot very, very easily. I just don't like the feeling of like a super sweaty shirt on me. And I also think it makes me fight for my life a little bit more if I know I have to keep myself warm, otherwise, I might get hypothermia. I don't know if you could tell on the scene, but you could see a lot of breath because we shot it in the middle of winter in New York.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Very cold. Um, let's talk about your transportation. You notoriously, the first thing you invested in was a driver. You have your own car now. One, how's Yuri doing? And why doesn't he have his own show yet? Yuri's been with me for 12 years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

He's been there for 12 years. Yeah, it's like any 12-year relationship. Like some days I like you, some days just sit up front. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 7:00

I get it.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

Yeah. While we're on transportation, um, why do you get out of c of a car when it's still moving? Did you catch that? Is that just parked? There's nothing in it for you. It feels unit exciting.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

I um time is money, you know? I gotta move, dude. I can't wait for Yuri to park and he likes to find the shade. Even in the middle of the winter, he won't park in the sun. It's New York City, there's no place to park. And I'll like look up from my phone and I'm 10 minutes late. I'm like, you're we've been here for 15 minutes. He's like, looking for parking. Like, why didn't you at least say something? He's like, you pay better attention. I'm like, oh, okay. No, I I don't always get out of the car while it's in motion, but you know, we we're on the clock, we gotta move, things are happening, especially if he's going to like take his sweet time to find a parking spot and I have total clearance, I can just get out and start going. The car's only going like five miles an hour.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

Yeah, that's nothing. Just feels like you could probably wait one more time.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

But think about all the time I've probably saved and been so productive with while getting out of the car while it's moving.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

We're coming from a place of concern now. Are you? Yeah, we want you safe.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

I want you buckled while the car is moving. It's not like fast and furious Yuri drift. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Is there a stunt coordinator on set when you flew out of the car?

SPEAKER_02 8:22

There's no stunt coordinators, there's no intimacy coordinators. We raw dogs, we were gonna ask.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

We were gonna wonder, because there's clearly a cameraman when you were in the shower. Yeah, for sure. Is there like a modesty pouch?

SPEAKER_01 8:32

A sock? How do you never mind anyway? So no, it's reality TV, man. Yeah, no, intimacy. We figured as much. We were just a modesty pouch? Yeah. I've never seen one. I just read about that.

SPEAKER_02 8:44

You speak about it as a scary thing.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

I read a lot of Hollywood Reporter. Do you? And intimacy, yeah. It's like I read about it.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

Let's talk about the personalities in the show. Let's do that. It feels like this is season two, but we still have some conflict between old school veterans, some newer folks, and people, everyone wants your attention. Yes. And there you are, caught in the middle of having deals, having leads coming away, having opportunities, and then having too many people here at the brokerage to give them to. How does that play out in this season? And how are you feeling between friendships and business? And when new deals come through, where to deliver them?

SPEAKER_02 9:18

Yeah. The show season one ended with us getting 200 Amsterdam, a billionaires' row, tower. Okay. Um, and we got it. Season two opens with, okay, now we have it. How am I going to staff it? Because a lot of season one was me figuring out how do I scale Ryan. Season two is now figuring out how do I scale Sir Hant. And so we have great agents who are here, a lot of agents that are on the cast. Um, you know, there's there's a lot of agents here at the company too. And listen, you know, the developer was very, very specific about, and this was not on camera because a lot of things happen off camera, about making sure that there was a sales director on the project that had large tower, so skyscraper experience. And other than myself, no one else in the company had that type of experience yet. And so it's just like when we move into new markets, no one here is in that market. So we go and we find great agents to partner with in those markets. And so I did have to. I know Jordan March had a huge issue with it. Nile had a huge issue with it, Jess Taylor had a huge issue with it, Jordan Hurt. I used to say everybody actually was mad at me for going out of the company to find the right person to do it. But it proved to be, at the time anyway, the right decision.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

We saw them all in the office today, and they're still a little bitter about it, by the way. Yeah. But you brought on Peter, uh, who seemed like a great addition to the cast. How is he fitting in with Sir Hant so far? You two had a bit of conflict over a deal going on. Is he now settled in? Everything going well?

SPEAKER_02 10:51

Peter, as kind of a new top dog in town, yeah. Um, uh, I think is it's really, really fun to watch and to see like what happens if you have a fish tank. Right? You got at your aquarium and you got lots of different types of fish, and everyone's kind of figuring it out, and it's fine. And then you drop in that like a piranha, like who lives and who dies, and it's incredibly stressful. Um, and I think he's done a good job at finding his way here. I don't think he's gone out of his way to make a lot of friends, but I also don't think he like is picking fights just to pick fights. Um, but you always get that, right? You have the incumbents who feel like they're owed something. Um, you know, and and again, like my fight with Jordan March, I don't even want to call it a fight, but that stress for a long, long time was really over the the unspoken bond between two people, where it's like, is there gratitude or is there not? On both sides. Do I owe you something or do I not? On both sides, like, are you the right fit for this or are you not? You know, on both sides of the conversation. And I think it's in it's just interesting to watch.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

I want to talk about that moment because you have a line. I wrote it down when I was watching it. I don't give anyone what they think they're worth, I give them what they deserve. Yeah. And I think for people at home who are watching that, agents who are watching that, I think what we all want to give to our boss is we want to bridge that gap.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

So how does someone bridge that gap? Because I feel like in that moment I was like, shit. Yeah. There's a lot of great lines in this show.

SPEAKER_03 12:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

Yeah. Um I think uh I can't impregnate myself was one of those lines. That was the other one I wrote down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:35

Who said that?

SPEAKER_00 12:36

You actually said that.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

I I said that.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

You you said you asked, I think you said you tried as well.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

What impregnate yourself?

SPEAKER_02 12:42

What scene was that?

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Uh, when you were talking to Amelia about having another child, and you were like, I mean, I've tried to impregnate myself. Yeah, that happened. That's true. I don't know if there's any mechanics you want to get into. We're just we're just cooling lines, man. Yeah. Your lines. We like the show. We wrote down the stuff you said. It's real. Okay. We had notebooks when we watched. Did you not? Back to, oh man, I lived it. Okay. Well, I studied it.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

Um, yeah, the show is incredibly cinematic. Anyway, yeah, back to that moment. Like, listen, I get what Jordan feels. I understand. Right? He's been here from like day five. Okay. He's worked incredibly, incredibly hard. And because he took a risk to be here, as the company then gets opportunities, you know, you're loyal, you've been here from the beginning. You get typically, you know, you get first reps. I totally, totally understand that. Um, and that's I came at it from a point of like real honesty. Like, I I would love nothing more than not to have conflict. Doesn't help my life at all to have conflict, to have tough conversations. I just want to move forward. I want to win. I want everyone to make money. I want it to be awesome. Um, I would love to just get a tower and be like, Jordan, that'll make you happy. Go, like, run with it. Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 13:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:53

But the developer had a very strict mandate of the type of person experience that they wanted on the project. And I had to choose between the business or then not getting the business, I guess, and ignoring the developer's mandate. Um, and so in that scene where he's like, you know, he he you know, he he thinks he's he's worth X, Y, and Z, I had to just really like come clear and say, I understand you think you're worth everything. You're worth this. I get it. But I don't give people what they think they're worth. I give them what they deserve based on the work and the success that they put out there. You know? Um, and I think for employees too, the best way to then bridge that gap, not just agents but employees, is uh not just to stand out with your handout and say, hey, I've been here for 10 years. It's like a it's like a deadbeat dad, right? Looking at their kid and being like, yo, I've been your dad for 10 years. Like, okay, and like you you made a choice, right? You're you're a dad. Doesn't mean you can't not do your dad duties. I mean, I guess you don't have to. Um, uh, but I think it's also making sure that you are the role before you're the role. So if Jordan March wants towers, he should go and source towers and then bring the company in, and then obviously he'll be the first to get it, right? Become a secondary agent or a third agent on a tower deal, and that'll be an easy decision to make at that point. And I I don't really know where Jordan and I stand right now. You know, he's still at the company. I know he's angry. I know watching the show now has brought up a lot of a lot of emotions uh and feelings, and I totally, totally get it. And I hope that we can reconnect.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

There's been a bit of online controversy. People are are are saying that you picked Peter over Jordan because Peter has a much more luscious mustache. Can you quell that rumor right now that it wasn't a mustache war, it was a book of business, really?

SPEAKER_02 15:59

Hiring Peter for 200 Amsterdam had nothing to do with his mustache. All right.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Clear, clear.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

I mean, if if you say it, I believe you.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

Yeah. But there's rumors.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

It's a good stash, though. It took me.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

It has a life of its own almost. Like it's just it's thriving in New York City. It is. All right, moving on. But you did have that conversation with Jordan. Happened in actually the sell at offices. And there was a moment right before, I don't know if you remember, yeah, where Drew actually made, I made my season two debut on the show.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Some are some are saying it was one of the most iconic moments of the season. I've been nominated for a SAG award. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Um, you had a whole line. Yeah. Yeah. Drew for season two worked. It worked. Where where does when do the paychecks get sent out? Is one. And how are you evolving the role of Drew for season three? And does it include include what we consider team brew here at Sell It, which is Brian and Drew? Yeah, Brian Henry for season three is what I keep hearing.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

I don't actually remember your part that I think about. It was like key. You were about to go meet with Jordan and you were like, Drew, you got this? And Drew said, Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

I was your source of confidence moving into the room. And didn't he walk into that room really confident? Drew's assurance that yes, he's got it. Feels like you needed something in that moment, and I was here for you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

Listen, I think there's You know that movie Free Guy with Ryan Reynolds? Sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Where like he's in a video game and there's all like the non-player characters, the NPCs. NPCs, yeah. And then he's one and he comes alive.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Are you about to call me an NPC? No, you're lying toward him.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

I think there should be a spin-off like social series, maybe of just takes that one moment and then we just go into your life as the yes I got it guy.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

And then we just really, really play into it.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

I mean, I would watch. Tell me how many people walking by right now. Doesn't he like a you got this dude?

SPEAKER_02 17:53

Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

Whenever you tell me I've got it, I always know I do have it. See, and that's what's nice.

SPEAKER_02 17:58

Yeah, thanks for helping me in the Jordan March moment, though, because he sat down and just you know, was on the attack. You did bring up, I'm gonna pivot again.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Okay. You you said uh uh father, and you actually talk about fatherhood in the show itself, uh-huh. Super vulnerable about family. What made you bring that to light? You saw a lot more of your wife, we saw a lot more of you hanging out with Xena, and so like what was the choice to open up that side of you? Because you could have probably kept it all business if you wanted to.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

Yeah, and that would be fine and boring. Like we also have to understand like the medium. I think people sit down and they have a lot of choices for TV to watch. And if if and there's you know, I don't know, 10,000 options now, it's crazy. Yeah, and if they're gonna go between all the other options and click on owning Manhattan, you need to make sure that it's actually worth it. And I think people don't connect to work, right? The work is just the skeleton. The real estate and the building of this company is is just the skeleton. Um, everything else are the people and that connective tissue and what it's like to be a human being. Um, and so I am a dad, I'm married, and having those conversations and showing them and being really, really, really vulnerable on camera is not easy and is actually super scary because the internet and the audience all have their own opinions and their feelings, and it's much, much safer to just to hold back and say, no, I don't want to put that out there. Um, but I think my duty as a producer and also as somebody who has the opportunity to make a TV show is to say, like, thank you for this opportunity. I will hold nothing back. Right? Like, we all see bad TV, and you can tell when people are holding back or just performing for the camera. Like, nothing on this show is performative, unfortunately for our lives. It is incredibly real, very honest. From the deals and the real estate, they're all very real to the agents. Like, these are not bullshit agents, these are real. Real estate agents doing real deals, running around New York City, stressing the fuck out, trying to make things happen. And then we stuck a camera in their face, right? To what our lives are like at home. Zina, though, you know, she is, you know, when we were shooting, she she was she was five. And so she was aware at that point, not that she's watched our TV shows, but she was aware that we were involved in in TV. And she was so excited that day. Really? She was so ready to go. And she was she was a director, like in the house, like the camera guy. She would look at him if he wasn't paying attention and she would wait. Oh until he looked and he's like, Zina, Zina, it's fine. And she was like, okay. And she was kind of nervous, you could see. Um, you know, she had like some nervous energy, but then she was awesome and just fun. And yeah, we filmed that one night where Amelia was off to some event, I can't remember which event, and it was just me and Zina by ourselves, and that's exactly how it goes. When Zina knows she has me to herself, every all the rules go out the window, and it's just all no, which is exactly what happened. I'm like, You want to go to bed? Nope. Nope. You want some milk? Nope. You want to brush your teeth? Nope. Not doing it. You have no control over me, dad.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

That felt very real.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

That was me coming home from work, reintroducing myself as a dad, because that's what I do, right? I come home like, hey, I'm still here. Yep. And having a having a real life conversation with a five-year-old. Even when I was like, What do you want to be when you grow up? And she's like, I want to be a police officer so I can put you in jail.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

That was a real that was I mean, that's a real feeling for her.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

Yeah. Yeah. We don't have to dive into that, but what would you do if there were three more Zenas and you had to do the same thing? You looking to expand the family that big? Yeah, we didn't get resolved on that.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

Is it Yuri Plus 8? Optimum wasn't there a chance to still in the back.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Yeah. That's how my story. Yeah, just Yuri driving a bus, except it's just our kids. Yeah. Would watch. It's a spinoff. Yeah, exactly. Owning the bus.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Owning all of Manhattan. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

Do you feel like there'd be a tipping point to where your family grows to a point where you have to then throw yourself more on that side than the business side?

SPEAKER_02 22:12

I don't know if you pick up on this. But what I found so interesting when watching the show, because we film it and then they edit it, and we see a first cut, and I'm like, wait a minute. I've been looking this whole season because we fired Jonathan, Tattoo Guy Season 1. This whole season, I'm looking for the villain. And in that final moment, I remember texting our executive producer, Kelly. He's like, Is this a play about me?

unknown 22:38

Right?

SPEAKER_02 22:38

It was like a euphoria moment where I'm like looking around by myself. Wait, is the villain me? Am I my own bad guy? And she was like, Did you pick up on that? I'm like, I just watched it. Like, is this and then Jordan has that whole side speech talking about addiction. And it was like an outer body experience for me because I don't always know how I'm acting when I'm acting until you watch it back, you know, which is a unique perspective that I get to have, I guess. Uh, and it was just nuts. Like, I did an interview this morning for Interview Magazine, and the first question she brought up, which I was not prepared for, was like, hey, so I I I watched season two, obsessed. Can we start this interview about talking about addiction and what it means to you? Well, and I was like, I don't, I'm not addicted to anything. She's like, Oh, really? And then it was yeah, kind of this really, really interesting way the show turns, which again is so different from season one, and it's so different from any other reality show I've like I've I've ever seen. And it'll be interesting to see like where that energy in the season finale takes us into season three.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

I I I liked that moment too. Jordan, obviously was your your former assistant, obviously knows you very well. And this kind of felt like I can't believe I'm watching this. I can't believe there are cameras here for this like really intimate conversation where he holds up a mirror to you.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

Were you ever like, oh god, cut this?

SPEAKER_02 24:09

No, I made a deal with myself a long, long time ago. Um, that I'm just gonna be me if I'm gonna do TV. And I think anyone who's watched Million Dollar Listing or Settle Like Surreant or any of the other spin-offs on Bravo and now this show, I think that's the deal I make with the audience, right? Like for the right to earn your eyeballs to watch this story, I will hold nothing back. And if I say something or do something on camera that, you know, self-conscious Ryan might say, Oh, I don't want that out there. I don't get the right to take that back. And the audience can judge me all they want. Um, but I and so that moment was was not planned. It was, I was literally just, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna film uh Jordan showing you an apartment because you have this offer on your house and you need to move potentially. And so we just do it. And I've just known him for so long. So I think my guard drops when I'm with him. Like we all kind of have that friend or that person where like your guard just naturally drops and you can have a realistic conversation. Um, and I think there's just there was so much going on that week. I've got Jordan is so mad at me, and he's like one of my best friends. I'm like, what do I, how do I? I don't even know how to manage the situation. We're opening new markets. I have stress all over the place. Everyone here just works for me. And how do I manage this? Is this really what I signed up for? Like, where am I? Am I gonna have the life I thought I wanted? What life do I even want? Like, and it just was it's too much, and you know, and I just broke and just sort of let it happen. Um, and then had to go right about my day after that. Like what you don't see, there's a moment in season one, if you show the clip of it. It's like episode one, I think, or two, where we're trying to sell the penthouse at Central Park Tower, and I think Kayla Lee is gonna bring this billionaire buyer from Korea to do the deal. And I'm so excited, she calls me and we're making this promo video at the top of the Empire State Building. There's hundreds of tourists up there. I get the call and she's like, they're out. And it was such a blow, but I gotta keep moving. And I had like four seconds and I just hugged the wall. Like, there's a moment where I just like they caught it on camera where I just the side of the Empire State Building observatory roof deck, I just like hugged the wall in sadness for five seconds, and then just got to keep moving. And that's you know, broke down in front of Jordan Hurt, and then had to go about my day, get back in the car, keep moving as if nothing had happened, even though it was slightly cathartic.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

Yeah. When you were watching the season, uh you you clearly had some real revelations, but um what rev revelations? You clearly had some revelations thanks, thanks, Daddy. Um what was left on the cutting room floor? Were there moments that you were excited and thought you were gonna see and they just weren't there? Tell us about one that you really thought would be there.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

I mean, you know, it's December 5th, 2025. We started shooting season two September 21st, 2024, and shot through May of this year. Yeah, and so I mean, there's a lot. Like there's uh there's entire characters that were removed, I think just really for pacing. Yeah, right? Like, sorry, Brian.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

Yeah, I I had a whole storyline cut cutting room floor. It was wonderful.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

Like we have an incredible agent here, she's new, she's from Texas. I remember when we hired when she like we hired her to the firm and I was trying to figure out what team to put her on. She I was like, So where are you from? She was like, She told me her town in Texas, and she's like, I grew up on Love, Butter, and Jesus. And that's Sophie, and she's incredible, and she had a whole storyline and filmed different scenes with her, and you can see her in different moments, but for the most part, like just removed from the edit, had nothing to do with her, and had everything to do with just like the pace and how many stories can you tell. You know, the cast is really, really big. There's there's deals and projects that we filmed that didn't make it into this edit. I don't want to talk about all of them because like 200 Amsterdam, we filmed a lot for in season one, that then didn't make it, right? But it's in season two. Like that opening party, actually, Little Easter Egg, was filmed in January of 24. I thought was going in season one, because season one came out in June of 24 and it didn't, but it made it into the beginning of season two because the show just picks up left and right.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

I've noticed that your bracelet wall uh people call it has grown too, and now it's over on two wrists.

SPEAKER_02 28:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

When will that end? Is this like a virus?

SPEAKER_02 29:01

You know, it just spreads.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

If Brian and I gave you a bracelet, which arm would you put it on? Oh, yeah. Wouldn't wear it actually? Oh, yeah, no, that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

That's okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

It cuts so deep.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Go through some trauma and then guilt me into wearing it. You didn't even think about it. He just cuts.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Yeah, he didn't think about that one. That's okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Wait, tell me other lines you like that you remember. Okay, we got a few. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

Yeah, well, okay. So we we brought up daddy earlier. And so from the first season, multiple people call you daddy and Zet and like all these things. You called yourself daddy this season. Nobody else does. Yeah. So you resurface it. Yeah, where'd that come from? The quote daddy is from Ryan Sir Hat.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

I didn't realize people called me daddy until I watched season one. And then I just only bring it up when people ask me for things.

SPEAKER_00 29:49

I think you like it. No, I don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

You brought it up.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

No, people bring it up when it's like they're asking for money, they're asking for resources, they're asking for something else. And I'm like, cool, am I your your daddy?

SPEAKER_01 30:01

You say who's your daddy?

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Did I say that on the show?

SPEAKER_01 30:03

I I'm asking you. No, I don't say something you ask if somebody asks you for a favor, you say who's your daddy first? Is that is that like a CEO thing?

SPEAKER_02 30:11

No, I don't think so. Season three, though, I might actually say that.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

Yeah. Well, someone comes to me and they're like, hey, can you help me with this listing? Be like, first you gotta tell me who's your daddy.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:21

That's what I'll do.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

I think that's great. And I don't think HR would have. I don't think HR would have a problem with that. Yeah, not a problem at all. Now that we've talked it through, they'll they'll understand where it came from. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

I have great defense. Everything's on TV. Nothing about my life is private.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

So apparently, you're you might leave Brooklyn for Manhattan.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

Two questions. One, why? Second question, is there maybe like a trusted employee with a growing family who you'd want to look over the brownstone while you maybe experiment in Manhattan?

SPEAKER_02 30:48

I've lived in Manhattan. I lived in Manhattan for a long time until we bought that house and renovated it. Uh there's no need to come back to Manhattan. Manhattan all day, every day. Our business is in Manhattan. Our headquarters where we are right now is in Soho. We have listings and projects all over Brooklyn, Long Island City, Queens, you know. So I'm I basically work in the back of a car. Yeah, you know, I only said that we would sell the house if the number ever made sense. Otherwise, we built it to kind of live there forever. Like it's eight bedrooms. I don't, I don't need more space. But, you know, we we got this kind of unsolicited offer. Um, oh, that's a scene that got cut, by the way. We filmed the buyers walking through with our agent Brandon Bogard showing it, and they were kind of funny and quirky. And it just again, with like pacing that whole scene and me, it was me actually showing the house. And I think a couple of times I'm like, don't tell my wife. Just make sure you leave, you gotta leave like right now because I don't want her to come back and then have a mental breakdown that oh my gosh, I'm showing the house. So that scene didn't make it. Um, as did I think I also she went and saw properties. We filmed those on camera. I I went and saw more things, not just that one with Jordan Hurt. Um, and it just again, like otherwise, every you know, we filmed for so long, every episode would be three hours.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

I'd watch. Would you? Well, yeah, sometimes just to see if the back of my head makes it into a scene.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

To finish your question, though, uh, no, you can't stay at my house.

SPEAKER_01 32:16

Oh, yeah. I mean, whatever. I meant like anyone, it could be anybody. Yeah. Or me.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

Um the next question, then, which was why aren't we better friends? And can we live at your house? So I'll I'll scratch that off.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

Yeah, no sleepovers, no. There was one other question.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

No, can you adopt adult men? Yeah, are you looking into that? What is this podcast? Well, growing your family include Brian and I? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:37

What is like the outcome you're trying to get from this whole conversation?

SPEAKER_00 32:40

Closer to you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

Friendship. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

Smiles, warmth. Is this even going to be posted? Or is this just a way to like hang out?

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Are we filming? I don't know if we actually hit record. This is kind of just for us. Is it real? No.

SPEAKER_02 32:53

It's just fake this whole time.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

Uh yeah, but aren't you having fun? Don't you want to do this again over beers? Yes. Or waters. He said protein shakes, whatever you like.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

Oh yeah. Yeah. Ryan, we're at the point. We're at the point where we're just pitching ourselves as friends now.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

Uh hope we succeeded. I think we have to move to some hot seat questions.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Hot seat rapid fire. Yes. Uh, your house goes up for sale. Who would sell it?

SPEAKER_02 33:17

Uh, one of the amazing surhand agents here. I'd make them fight for it, probably physically. That's a non-answer answer.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

Shirtless boxing to sell the house. I love it. Exactly. One person from the show.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

Uh one person from the show. Um, I mean, to be totally honest, like Trisha and Jeffrey sell all over Brooklyn. I know they want to keep doing more and more Manhattan, but they do so many townhouses, et cetera. They'd be a great option. But I would make a lot of agents come through and talk about it and and pitch and see who would who would make the most sense. That's a decision I never want to have to make in real life.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

Season three. Better city, Miami or New York.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

I love what Miami has become, but New York is home and is the greatest city in the world. Comforting. There was a lot of Miami love this season. Got me nervous. There's one episode of Miami, but how cool is that? We wanted to go to Miami. We flew there. Like, I love that drone shot of like the G-Wagons kind of driving through Miami. Gordon Wagner, the entire Mercedes-Benz executive team flew in from Germany. We got that silver arrow car. People got to see what it's like to launch a$1.5 billion tower in real time with real deals and a multi-million dollar sales center. It's the first Mercedes-Benz residences in the history of North America. Like it's just, it's another thing that makes this show so special and so unique. It just like you get to watch those things happen in real time. You know, this is not a reality show where it's like, hey, let's go have tea and tea and biscuits in someone's kitchen and talk for 20 minutes. Like shit happens on this show. It is a deal show.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

Speaking of shit happening, who stirred the pot the most, intentionally or unintentionally? Jade. Jade. Always Jade. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

I still think you have the Chloe and Jade kind of will they, won't they drama? Like that friendship when you really peel back the layers is a tough one. Um, and now there's babies in the mix and divorces and separations and new boyfriends and new husbands. There's a lot there. But I think Jade always pokes the bear wherever she can. She just can't help it. Like, I think she just walks around in whatever crazy outfit she has on with a like a literal fire poker, you know, and she's like, What's this gonna do? Ooh, oops. Yeah, exactly. That's Jade.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

Ryan, your seat is so hot right now because you are sitting in it for so long. These are rapid fire questions. We need hot and quick. Oh, sorry. It's okay. You ready for the next one? Yes. Who had the biggest comeback of the season?

SPEAKER_02 35:47

The biggest comeback is Jordan Hurt. Jordan Hurt, yeah. Yeah. He goes from being fired to winning completely on his own. Being embarrassed to winning completely on his own.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

Who had the toughest season? Me. Yeah. I was gonna say that too.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

Who had the toughest crying uh uh uh crying moment of the show?

SPEAKER_02 36:07

I would say the most surprising Jess Taylor cries a lot, uh everyone cries. I was the most taken aback in that moment with Trisha Lee talking about her mom and how she found out what had happened to her mom and seeing that like that again is just something I've never seen on TV before, and it was so real, so in real time, and it's what makes doing a show on Netflix so special.

SPEAKER_00 36:35

Who would win in a fight, Niall or Eric?

SPEAKER_02 36:39

I think Niall because he would go until he dies, and I think Eric would probably tap out because he has so much life to live.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

Okay, you know, yeah, just he's not committed to the cause.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

Yeah. Who is most likely to show up late to a showing? Cashmere.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Oh man. Um probably Chloe. But just because her life has changed, she's got the baby now, she has so much stuff, she's running all over the place. Um, but she's probably the most likely to show up late. With good reason, though.

SPEAKER_00 37:19

Zina needs a babysitter, who you're calling from the cast.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Um Jordan hurt, probably. Yeah, I think so. Although Genesis would be great. Actually, I take it back. Genesis, because I would come home and Zina would be speaking Spanish. Yes, yeah. Yeah. She has that. She spent like two seconds with Zina one day, and I came home and she was like, Papa. Oh. She was like, Papa, tu es guapisimo. I was like, what? She's like, that means you are handsome. Like, we're Dora the Explorer? Like, what's going on? And she's like, no, Genesis. And I had to call Genesis. I'm like, what are you talking about? What do you, what are you, what are you teaching her? She's like, oh, that was the nice thing she remembered. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

Spicy. Uh, favorite listing of the season.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

Favorite listing of the season is 281 to 281 Park Avenue South. Um, it is just a it is a landmark property. It was commissioned initially to be built for JP Morgan himself. Yeah, it's just one of those buildings in New York City that will stand the test of time. It is so cool.

SPEAKER_00 38:19

Best friend, Brian Ru Brew. Hey, cheers.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

Yeah. I'll take it. It's like sweet and low.

unknown 38:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:29

We don't need to worry about who's who. Yeah, you're in the same packet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's and it's pink. And my grandma loved this. Um. Ryan, thank you so much for coming on. Super excited. Season two was awesome. Are you any rumblings of season three? Are we working on that yet? It's been like three days.

unknown 38:44

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

Sure. Yeah. All right. Well, congrats on another great season. Thanks for coming on. Appreciate it.