Leave A Light On Podcast
Welcome to "Leave A Light On Podcast," the podcast that brings you inspiring stories of ordinary people overcoming extraordinary challenges in their lives. Join us as we delve into the lives of individuals from all walks of life, exploring the adversities they face and the resilience they demonstrate in overcoming them.
In each episode, we'll introduce you to a new guest—a parent, a teacher, a healthcare worker, a student, a veteran, or perhaps your neighbor next door. Through heartfelt interviews and candid conversations, we'll uncover the personal battles they've fought, whether it's overcoming illness, navigating through loss, breaking free from addiction, or facing societal barriers.
From tales of triumph over adversity to stories of perseverance in the face of hardship, "Leave a Light On Podcast" celebrates the human spirit and the strength found within each of us. You'll laugh, you'll cry, and most importantly, you'll be inspired by the resilience and determination of these everyday people who refuse to be defined by their struggles.
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Episode 13 - Jason Walsh: Humor and Heart in the Path to Authenticity
Join us as we kick off with some fun contrasts between snowy landscapes and sweltering climates, setting the stage for a chat with our dear friend and mining aficionado, Jason Walsh—affectionately known as Walshy. Together, we uncover the intriguing transformation from digging for gold to scaling life’s metaphorical mountains, blending humor with heartfelt reflections on personal journeys filled with both grit and growth.
The heart of our episode beats in the stories of family, resilience, and redemption. We pull back the curtain on challenging childhoods, revealing how past adversities and family dynamics shape our adult selves. From tales of enduring an uproarious household to maintaining peace with an ex for the sake of the kids, these deeply personal anecdotes are laced with a blend of laughter and introspection. We explore how humor acts as a lifeline, and why nurturing positive relationships—even post-divorce—is vital for both personal development and the well-being of our children.
Our chat takes a raw turn as we navigate the stormy seas of addiction and the pursuit of sobriety, showcasing the relentless spirit required to overcome such challenges. With candid honesty, we share experiences of self-discovery and the rollercoaster of emotions that accompany personal transformation. From battling self-doubt to the cathartic acceptance of our true selves, we weave a narrative that celebrates authenticity and evolving perspectives. Be inspired by tales of creative resilience, and join us as we embrace the messy, beautiful journey of living an authentic life.
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Speaker 3:Here's your hosts, Shane and Shev. Hey, hey legends, Welcome to another episode of Leave a Lord on Podcast. Here's one of your hosts, Shev, and alongside me every week, week in, week out, Shane A Yo, how's it everybody? Yeah, super excited. I know you don't like me using that word, but this is an absolute treat for the people today.
Speaker 4:Oh man, honestly, I am completely and utterly just so pumped about today's one.
Speaker 3:It's going to be great.
Speaker 2:It's going to be awesome.
Speaker 4:Not to knock any other guests that we've had so far. No, we've loved every single guest and they'll obviously hold a very special place in our hearts and, hopefully, our listeners' hearts.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 4:But today, today is a gem of a guest. I cannot, cannot even begin to describe this person. But before we get into that, let me just say it is so good to be back.
Speaker 3:Oh, it is. How was your holiday in Canada?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was good. It was really really good. I say good because I feel like the English vocab just cannot describe what I saw in Canada.
Speaker 3:It was amazing. Maybe I'll go to Canada. Yeah, I get some English. What is it English vocab in me?
Speaker 4:Some English vocab. Actually, did you know Canada was a French colony? Yes, I did Originally, yeah.
Speaker 3:Because Simple Plans from there and the singer's name's Pierre, pierre, yeah, and their drummer's name's like Chuck. But, they call him Chuck.
Speaker 4:But why do they call him Chuck?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know that's like in French. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I don't know. But yeah, I do, I actually did know that.
Speaker 4:So I learnt a little bit of French while I was there. It was great. Bonjour, oui, oui.
Speaker 3:Later.
Speaker 4:Later.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oui, oui, oui, oui, yeah, later I'll go later. Oui, oui, okay.
Speaker 4:Sorry, I did not get that, but okay, wee wee. I'll go later. Yeah, so it was great. I had a really good time awesome, that's really good.
Speaker 3:How's the pissing? Did she enjoy it?
Speaker 4:loved it, loved it, she loved it. Obviously didn't want to come home, so I left her there. Actually no, I'm joking, she came home with me. It was great. That's awesome. That's so good, so really good, to be back home, although I came from like opposite ends of the spectrum when it came to like the temperature gauge.
Speaker 3:So when you showed me photos, mate, you were rugged up to the night, yeah, I was in snow, dude.
Speaker 4:I was in snow Like the highest temperature we had was like seven, six to seven degrees. And then I come here and it's like you guys were having like 40 degree temperatures while I was away.
Speaker 3:Mate, I was in a singlet the whole time. 40 shorts. I was beaming.
Speaker 4:We had like 40 odd degree days yeah it's crazy, honestly, I'm so glad I wasn't here, but, yeah, so it's good to be back. I'm really pumped and, like you said, really, really excited about today's guest. I know we've known him for quite a while. You've known him a lot longer than yes. I'm sure some people would be like all these guys get is people that they work with, and we do, yeah, so let's just put that out there. A lot of people that we get are guests or people that we work with. We love our work, colleagues.
Speaker 3:We do.
Speaker 4:I say there's a little bit of a safe blanket for now, while we're still getting up, and running, yeah, but also I feel like we talk about interviewing people that are closest around us, yep, the people we work with. We're spending five days, 12 and a half hours with these people. Sometimes it's not necessarily in the same vicinity, because we're obviously all operating our own machines and stuff like that, but I know for this particular individual.
Speaker 3:I hear his voice a lot, especially on night shift. Yeah, he's one of the reasons why I like going to night shift, because he keeps you up at 2, 3 o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's great, he's great. So, without further ado, we're going to introduce today's guest. He is a man of many names, graham's Gas being one of them. Hiya, yeah, to those, obviously, who work with him, they know him as Walshy, but obviously, when we are introducing him, we will introduce him by his legal name, jason.
Speaker 3:Walsh.
Speaker 4:The one and only Jason Walsh. Hell yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's a bit harsh.
Speaker 3:The mayor needs no introduction.
Speaker 5:Dead set. What's wrong with? You two, no, no, no. Are you two serious? You are the biggest brudgers at work. You two do everything. No, no, no. Are you two serious? You were the biggest brudgers at work. What? No, walshie, in all honesty, you two do everything you can to get out of work. I've seen you.
Speaker 4:That's Stephanie Shev. I'm the one who runs it. Rain, hail, shine. I'm the one who's running. Let's be honest. But in all honesty, Walshie, welcome to the podcast of Leave a Lie Alone podcast.
Speaker 5:Welcome. What's going on, boys?
Speaker 4:Yeah, so excited, really excited, to have you on the podcast. It's been something that we've been talking about for a long time actually, and you have actually taken a month well, three weeks month.
Speaker 5:Yeah three weeks.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was about three weeks where you went off, which we'll get into a bit later. So now you said when you came back you were ready, which is epic, because I couldn't have asked for a better time for you to come on, which is just before Chrissy, which is great.
Speaker 3:It just makes it a whole lot more special?
Speaker 4:Yeah, because to me you remind me of the kind of like Jim Carrey of my life where he's just so funny, I'm flooded and so like, switched on, he's like, and his improv is incredible, you're saying he's dark side? Yeah, he is, and I think you have a dark side as well, but that's just the side.
Speaker 4:I think we've all got a dark side voice. But before we get into this Walshie because, as you know and we've spoken about this we do have a song that we associate I said to you, if I could pick a song for you, that it would have been REM's man on the moon, because to me, you are honestly the biggest space cadet. I love it Like you just have such a universal perspective of things. It's so big, it's bold, it's awesome. Like you're just way out there and like people must think that you live in outer space. Like sometimes, because that's just how like far out some of the things you say are which is epic.
Speaker 4:Um, but obviously copyright reasons, rem could not come on the podcast today. Um, but we did. We did make you your own little song. So, um, while she, we've we've captioned this song. Well, the title of the song is called captain laugh, and the reason we've obviously titled that is because we feel like you are a person who just exudes life in every aspect, like you love living it. How old are you now? 52. 52. You're honestly in the best shape of 52-year-old I've ever seen. You're constantly on the go, you're always like thinking, motivating, you're learning all the time. So you just exude life, dude, and I don't think there's a person on this planet that comes along that doesn't say you're just so full of life. So, captain, laugh. This is the song that we have for you. It starts off nice and slow because obviously we want to get a wrap.
Speaker 4:You're saying I'm slow shane no, this is a different side, you know get your ears around this business the skies is home, not a place.
Speaker 1:He'll stay too long. With a grin so wide and story spun, his heart beats like a thousand suns. He's a wanderer. This guy's his home, not a place. He'll stay too long. With a grin so wide and story spun, his heart beats like a thousand suns. Laughs echo through the streets so wide, thrumming tails and jumps and rides. Every step, a dance, a game. Never two days ever the same. Back to life. They call it. Never two days ever the same. Yeah, good as that. Absolutely brilliant, isn't that amazing? Yeah, what is?
Speaker 4:it.
Speaker 5:That was brilliant. Did you write that? By the way, I was going to ask you whether you did.
Speaker 4:you put the words together, yeah, so I just so how we do it and without giving too many secrets away, but basically how I do it is I come up with. Had for you was like full of life, charismatic, adventurous, funny and just a ball of energy, and obviously that's where it came up with Captain Life.
Speaker 5:So glad you see me that way.
Speaker 3:That's brilliant, yeah, and the songs that we've added for previous people. He hasn't been wrong so far.
Speaker 5:Oh, the Viking one was absolutely brilliant. What's it make Brilliant?
Speaker 3:The.
Speaker 4:Viking one is good, hey, Because it was literally like you just pictured it like straight out of a Viking movie. Hey.
Speaker 5:And, like you said too, you've got everybody from work, so we all know each other. We think we know each other, and that's what's brilliant to hear behind the background. And there's so much about Van Damme. He's the most beautiful man he is. He was the best interviewer.
Speaker 4:I loved it. Yeah, such a gem. So now it's your turn. I love you, so obviously, let's get into it. Let the games begin. Round two Fight Walshie. Let's get into this. If someone who was describing you to someone who didn't know you, what would the words or how would someone do you think would describe you? What would you want people to think if you were describing yourself to someone?
Speaker 5:Creativity joy, passion Creativity joy passion, it's pretty much my mantra I live by.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 5:Why? I think, going back in my life, way back, I've always been creative but I never, actually never, used any of it when I was younger, until I became a teenager. So joy, I never had a lot of joy as a kid. Okay, yeah, it was really dark and quite sad, to tell you the truth. And passion, I get up every single day. I want everybody to feel the joy, creativity and passion that I feel. Yeah, I get up every single day. I just I want everybody to feel the joy, creativity and passion that I feel, yeah, it, just it.
Speaker 5:well, the world amazes me, and it took all that darkness to see the light, and I just it's amazing, that's unreal, dude.
Speaker 4:And and honestly, like I feel like when I see you cause obviously we will have our G-Com meetings in the mornings and so we all are in the same room together when I see you and we have a chat in the morning and I go, hey, walshie, how you going I know like the response I'm going to get is never just a yeah, okay or fine, or you always like yeah, I'm amazing, I've had such a good, like life is brilliant, like that's always like your response. Like when you say so you are extremely passionate about life, which is so cool. Because that is so contagious, I had to work on that yeah.
Speaker 4:I think everyone in that boat would have to.
Speaker 5:That's just tools and techniques. I don't start every day like that. No, actually, to tell you the truth, I do start every day at work like that, but I work my way into it.
Speaker 4:Well, it's quite interesting. You say that because the whole, if you see a movement now in the world a lot of people are talking about, like you speak it into the universe, you know. So, like I'm going to speak my happiness, I'm going to speak my prosperity, I'm going to speak this into the universe, and then that I'm putting out that positive energy, if you want to call it that, and that's what's going to come to me. And by you saying that you're like exuding that passion, it's like you saying, well, I'm working at that because that's what I want to be. And so I'm speaking that over myself on a daily basis, every time someone asks me how I'm going, as, a man thinketh, so is he.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's just how it is. That's awesome.
Speaker 4:Thought is everything, thought is everything, yeah, which obviously is something we-.
Speaker 3:Look at me, I don't have much thinking. You have a ton of thinking.
Speaker 4:I don't really it's just how we. That's what this podcast is about the fact that we get so caught up in our thoughts, sometimes in a dark way, that it starts to dictate to us, sometimes into very dark places, as you said, but that's amazing, Like creativity, I know. Shout out to Graham's Gas, if anyone knows your YouTube channel.
Speaker 3:Get on and check it out.
Speaker 4:It's pretty funny, it's hilarious. My favorite one was the one about shooting. I want to say hotty-dots, but it wasn't hotty-dots, is it wombats? Wombats, that's it.
Speaker 5:Nobody believes me that they're the fastest creature in the or second fastest. Yeah, it's crazy. I didn't know that and in the second fastest.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's crazy, I didn't know that. And then I really did go and have a look and you're like, oh, my word, he wasn't joking. Because, let's be honest, sometimes some of the things you say, oh well, I'll do.
Speaker 5:No, that's not true I made that up. Now I'm confused. Did you make it up? Was that actually real?
Speaker 3:Of course.
Speaker 5:I made it up. They're hardy you run them over with a car.
Speaker 3:I'll be hit one one day. You reckon this is like a boulder break. Yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, your YouTube channel is unreal. It's hilarious. I need to get back into it. Yeah, but you've got some good ones up there. How many have you got up there? I think like 12, 16? Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 5:yeah, which is really good and they're very short. I've got a lot on the back burner, yeah. Yeah, I just need to edit them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because.
Speaker 5:I know editing takes a long time.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, shane knows all about that, know all about that.
Speaker 4:Editing takes a long time. Okay, so, yeah so. Creativity, joy, passion. You have obviously been in mining for a long time 15?
Speaker 5:Since 2010. 2010. So obviously been in mining for a long long time 15, uh, since 2010 2010.
Speaker 4:So yeah, going on 15 years from next year, yeah, that's a long time. Why mining?
Speaker 5:because money I'm not gonna lie. I even said in the beginning. The lady said to me why do you want to be in mining? I said money, yeah that's why everyone goes, everyone goes.
Speaker 4:I don't think there's a single person that goes for the passion of just digging coal. Oh yeah, I want to drive a big truck?
Speaker 5:no one, hey, no. But when it comes to that, that is, I do love that yeah, because that's I genuinely do love it people don't believe me. From the very beginning they've said you'll get bored of it, you'll get sick of it. It is the greatest job ever. Yeah, pick something up, drop it off.
Speaker 4:It's a joke, and they give you lots of money you know what I love to think of it, as when someone asks me what I do and I go I'm a miner I say I move mountains, like to me that's like, that's like it sounds so cool and it like makes me feel really important. Because when you go, I'm just moving dirt.
Speaker 5:It's like, ah, it doesn't sound really cool to make a game of everything. Yeah, yeah absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 4:Speaking that, speaking, absolutely yeah. Speaking of that. You and I make games of stuff when we're driving past each other all the time, actually.
Speaker 5:I do with everyone. It makes it a lot of fun.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we've played Rock Paper Scissors when we've driven past each other.
Speaker 3:Really Well. Now I'm going to just have to stop here. You're going to have to elaborate overrate on this. Yeah, shane, rock paper scissors. So obviously, when you're driving in our trucks, we obviously are passing each other.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah you gotta be quick, you gotta be quick. Did you get fatigues? And what are they? No, no, no, that's all right. No, it's, it's quite funny. You know, I don't get tired?
Speaker 4:yeah, you don't. That's awesome and the reason, yeah, obviously, night shift being one. Yeah, you're one of the key um people. You kind of uh, keep a lot of the people entertained at 2 o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3:Meth is one hell of a drug as.
Speaker 4:Rick James said KK is a hell of a drug. Okay, so money got you into the industry and obviously now you're enjoying it. Was it always something you saw yourself doing?
Speaker 5:No, but then when I look back, my grandfather was actually was in mining. He was a boiler maker, okay, so he was one of the foremen on the, you know at Newcastle there, yeah, at the loading dock there.
Speaker 3:Cooring Gang Island.
Speaker 5:Yeah, built all those Cooring Gang Island, yeah, conveyor belts and all that sort of stuff. And I remember as a kid. One of the memories I have as a kid was probably about seven or eight he bought me a loader and a truck. From memory, I used to be able to ride around on a Tonka truck, oh wow.
Speaker 4:That was sick. That's so cool.
Speaker 5:I wish I had it now to ride around.
Speaker 4:One of those plastic ones. You know, I'm not joking.
Speaker 5:The dead set would ride it around Back in the day they were actually metal.
Speaker 3:They were metal, yeah back, metal, yeah, back of the really yeah cut yourself on them and everything.
Speaker 4:Absolutely. That's crazy. Nowadays they're all crappy plastic. Well, they have to be work health and safety and on that, cutting yourself.
Speaker 4:Imagine, imagine the liabilities what a different time we live in, unreal, um, okay, so we've obviously heard, uh, you describing yourself today as creative. Um, joy, joy and passion. Let's go back to young Walshie. And it's how would you describe young Walshie? Because the reason why I ask is because I'd love to see the difference or similarities in how you would describe teenager Jason Walsh to, obviously, who you are now today, adult. Tell me, how would you describe your younger youth? From what age? Let's look at from adolescence 10, 11, 12 years old, jason, because that's when you're developing who you are Sad.
Speaker 5:Okay, depressed, anxious. Yeah, it was a pretty dark time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so my mum was 16 when I was born, oh yeah, so like you, yeah, a very young mother, yeah, and to this day I've still never met my real father. Okay, I think I looked him up years ago and I'm pretty sure I tracked him down, and he also has eight kids, so he's an old shagger too, which is awesome.
Speaker 3:That him down and he also has eight kids. So he's an old shagger too, which is awesome, that's where you get it from.
Speaker 1:It's hereditary.
Speaker 4:That brings a whole new meaning to following your father's footsteps.
Speaker 5:Porn music just plays in my head all the time, nonstop, the opening to Pornhub. I think I told you last week I think it was you I was telling that I actually finished Pornhub. I'm back to the 70s. I've started all over again. It's amazing. I've been by myself for eight years. That's awesome. Sorry, I'm seeing all this sadness back when I was younger.
Speaker 2:I always do this.
Speaker 5:I always try and use humour to negate and deflect things like this. But so 16-year-old, then an abusive stepfather who I thought was my dad all along until I was I think I was seven or eight and my mum left. Okay, and I can remember hearing Smokey Needles and Pins. Do you remember Smokey? The band Smokey.
Speaker 5:Yes, I do I remember it was playing in the 64 EH and I could see this clearly and I remember him saying to me I don't know why the fuck she left you with me. I'm not even your real father, and that's how I found out that he wasn't my real dad. Wow, a guy that used to smack me around all the time A big drinker. That's insane. It was a classic. So she had left with my next stepfather.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 5:Who is a dead set legend, but at the same time I lost my brother when I was 12.
Speaker 4:So how many siblings did you have at that time?
Speaker 5:Obviously, your dad had A sister and a brother.
Speaker 4:Okay, so you had two siblings who I thought were my real brother and sister.
Speaker 5:They were half brother and sister. Okay, and they were younger yeah, so you had two siblings who I thought were my real brother and sister. They were half brother and sister, okay, and they were younger.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you're the oldest again Two years and five years, okay.
Speaker 5:And when I say lost my brother, my mum decided just to give him up to my stepfather. Oh wow, oh wow. He had convinced him apparently that, yeah, convinced him that he needed to stay with him and blah, blah, blah he wouldn't have anyone, et cetera, et cetera. But that's not the case. I don't think he was a lot of trouble. He was always in trouble. I remember he used to come up with crazy plans like getting 22 bullets and we'd chuck bricks on them and then shrapnel would go all over us and we'd tell mum we fell in the rose bushes.
Speaker 5:He burned down the back of the school once he used to shoplift and I used to have to go and tell the shop owners that he'd taken burger rings or whatever he'd done. He was so much trouble.
Speaker 3:This makes me laugh, shane, because Walshy's sitting here saying he's out of control, and you know what Walsh is like.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So that's pretty bad if Walsh is sitting there saying he's out of control. Yeah, I was fully out of control.
Speaker 5:No, like your brother like yeah, yeah as well.
Speaker 4:In what way? Because obviously you're saying he was really out of control. You were saying you're fully out of control.
Speaker 5:Back in the early 70s or late 70s, early 80s, there was no labelling. You were either naughty or retarded. That was it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5:Labelling is just more of a recent thing, yeah, but the hyperactivity was just insane, yeah, just non-stop.
Speaker 4:So obviously when you say that you struggle ADHD, I would have been lab back then.
Speaker 5:Yeah, as having adhd, undiagnosed adhd, undiagnosed adhd, absolutely 100 okay, back then, yeah, okay but again, like adhd, you know what it's like. You're functioning, you can. If you focus on something and you love something, you can pull anything off. It's amazing. So even as a kid I was fairly intelligent. I could finish all my school work and that's what was annoying you get everything done.
Speaker 4:My mom would say just give him more stuff to do yeah just keep flooding him with stuff to do and do you think she was doing that to try and keep you out of trouble um, possibly, yeah, or maybe she knew me more than I ever thought she did. Yeah.
Speaker 5:Maybe Would have been hard, though. Can you imagine being you can, yeah, imagine being 16, 17, 18, 19, 20.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I mean I can answer from experience. Like you say, like my mom, I still remember times when, at that stage, my parents didn't have their own space. We grew up my mom and dad were married. They weren't even married when I got born. They only got married after I was born. Yeah, and we were living with my dad's parents, so my grandparents and they practically were the ones raising me. My mom didn't know what she was doing.
Speaker 5:Well, that's the thing too. I think my all-mar, because you might have come after that, but back in the really early 70s you were like a bastard child. You'd be given away the majority of the time. It's only 50-odd years ago. It's crazy to think back then that you'd be given away, but my Omar was having none of that. So she was the one that, yeah, so obviously she was 17 when I was born, and so my Omar took me in and she was the only sober one out of the whole entire family, Wow really.
Speaker 5:This is a German family that people from all over the world would turn up to our house. We had a purpose-built back bar with taps and everything. Wow, it was non-stop. Italians, Germans, French yeah right, the uncles would. Because my uncles obviously Were close in age to me they were younger.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because she was 16 17.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and people from all we had the, they'd come over and they'd say, my uncles would say, just come over and just drop in and talk to my mum and she'll just let you stay Wherever they were Around the world. Yeah, and people would come From all around the world. And people would come from all over the world and it was just non-stop partying, non-stop. It was crazy, wow, so exciting. Your Oma was the only one that was sober, only one that was sober the whole of, from what I can remember, her whole entire life. Wow, and you'd have people coming home with black eyes and people sleeping on the lawn. Wow, it was intense. My mum was full on. It was just brilliant.
Speaker 5:It was so exciting and so brilliant and so sad at the same time. Sorry, I'm looking back, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. In hindsight, when you look back on something, you go, wow, this is what created the chaos up to a point, and now I'm coming out of that, if that makes sense. It's intense and insane. It was just brilliant, yeah, cool, and now I've totally lost freaking track. Where were we going with this?
Speaker 4:I was asking you about the fact that. Did your mum push you in order to obviously keep you out of trouble?
Speaker 5:She used to push me a lot I don't know how much but then she was a kind good person. And I can't begin to imagine what it must have been like when I look back Do you know what I mean, keep in mind. I haven't seen her for six or seven years yeah.
Speaker 3:Especially in those days as well, being a young mom would be hard.
Speaker 4:Sorry, I don't want to just brush past that. Is there a reason you haven't seen your mum in six or seven years? Yeah, yep, okay.
Speaker 5:I'm coming back around. That is my doing. Okay, that's an alcoholic-fuelled go and fuck yourself moment with a text, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Oopsie-daisy.
Speaker 5:When I came out Oops, but it takes two to tango, it does. In the same token, my ex-wife, who's still one of my best friends, she said to me you do realise you are right. And I went what do you mean? And she explained to me that, yes, everything you're saying is right. You are right, yeah. So, but the way I went about it was probably not the best way to go about it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know that all too well as you can imagine.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:I think I felt bad because I felt like she didn't. She doesn't remember where she came from. Okay, Because her life is so radically different now. It's so unbelievably different from when we were younger.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And people do change. So it's a beautiful thing and I'm glad it did for her.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:But I feel like I've always been a disappointment to her.
Speaker 4:to tell you the truth, Okay, I think, oh yeah, no, I mean, I think you know we all have those perspectives where sometimes we think those kind of thoughts where we're like, oh, you know, I could think the same about me with my parents, to be honest. I mean, like we've discussed, my mom walked out on me when I was 16 years old and chose everything else in the life, of drugs and things. I've got a half-stepped brother, which I've met a handful of times in my life, and so to me it's like she chose everything else over her own son. And Are you over that yet? Oh, look, I like to say I'm doing better.
Speaker 4:I don't think I am completely at that point where I'm like I'm fine with it, because there's moments when you look like you have special moments, for instance, my wedding, where you're going, you want your nearest, your dearest, you. Always you have this picture of having your family there. She wasn't there and she wasn't there. I haven't spoken to my mom, my real mom, my biological mom. In what am I, in 15 years now, haven't heard a peep out of her?
Speaker 5:I knew there was a reason you and I got on so well Do you forgive her?
Speaker 4:I forgive her because I do think that her identity crumbled when she went through the divorce with my father. So she, literally her entire, being her reason for living like she was 18 when she had me. So all she knew was being a mom and being a wife, and when one of them fell she didn't know how to cope with that. So I forgive her for that. I don't forgive her for the fact that obviously it's not that I'm just over the thing that we say like I'll just accept it and she can come back whenever she wants, but I do.
Speaker 5:I don't hold a grudge against her I heard a beautiful saying the other day. Wayne dyer said um, you know, wayne dyer I've heard about wayne dyer.
Speaker 4:I don't know him personally. He's incredible.
Speaker 5:He said it might be Mark Twain that actually said it. Forgiveness is the fragrance the violet sheds on the hill that has crushed it. Oh, wow, it's beautiful, isn't it? Yeah, and so I forgive my mum for everything in the past. I truly do like in my heart, yeah, but Everything in the past I truly do like in my heart, yeah, but I don't think I can ever forget it because it doesn't seem to care.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, that's the hardest part, like what's that whole forgive and forget thing? Like, yeah, you can forgive, but sometimes it's the hardest part is to forget. You can't just forget because, like you say, it's made you who?
Speaker 5:you are, yeah, and I'm coming across as if it's a you, who you are, oh, yeah, and uh, come, I'm coming across as as if it's a bad thing, yeah, yeah, I hope you don't take it that way. It's not even slightly. It's the greatest thing that's ever. I am so ridiculously thankful for all the crap that's happened in my life.
Speaker 4:I would not be as happy and joyful as I am yeah, so I'll ask you this question because I know the answer, um, because it's been asked to me. But if you could change, like what happened to you in your past, would you?
Speaker 5:No, why Not in a million years? Yeah, because it makes you who you are Exactly. If you don't have adversity, how can you learn strength? How can you learn to grow or to be who you're supposed to truly be? It's the universe. Call it whatever you want Kismet, the universe, god, source, the programmer. You're here like a game, to imagine if you had a game where all that happened was everything went absolutely perfectly and yay God, that'd be boring. That's what makes a game fun, and this is a game. Life is a game. Finally, it took me years to figure out that life is a game. It is a hilarious game. I am so ridiculously thankful for the shitty things I've done and I feel no guilt and no remorse and no, which is a horrible thing to say, but I don't, because I figure, if I hold on to all of that, I'll never, ever get ahead.
Speaker 4:What good is holding on to remorse than holding on to a great do?
Speaker 5:It's what I love about stoicism. I love the idea of you can't change what is. You know what I mean. You can't change the wind, but you can change your sails.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean yeah, that's so good.
Speaker 5:What's the point that's so good?
Speaker 5:And I've done some horrible, freaking things, shane, but I've also done some incredible, absolutely amazing, beautiful things and things people don't know about. It's because I have to live with myself, obviously, yeah, yeah. So I'm trying to make amends in the next 52 years. That's my plan Make amends. Make amends in the next 52 years. Okay, so, without guilt and remorse. Yeah, so when you Because I'm balanced, everything is balanced. Okay, everything's a dichotomy. Everything's up down, in, out, back forth, here. There you can't find anything that isn't Darkness light. Yeah, I want to balance everything out that I've done wrong in my life. Sorry, I will balance out everything I've done wrong in my life. So I will go and say to my mum this was how I went about it. It was absolutely horrible, it was wrong, but I do feel that way. You need to understand I feel that way. Yeah, and she can accept it or not accept it.
Speaker 1:I think that's why.
Speaker 5:Pam and I, my ex-wife, are still best friends. Yeah, Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4:Which is such a unique thing. It's so brilliant, isn't it?
Speaker 5:Yeah, and my kids are all well-adjusted and they're all beautiful, kind, empathetic, compassionate kids, because we don't fight and argue over it Anything ridiculous. You know what I mean? Yeah. It wasn't like that in the past. It wasn't with my first partner, which makes perfect sense, because I treated her like, oh God, I was horrible to her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, okay, I was a womanising horrible, egotistical prick.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And it was all because of my mummy issues.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that's a rare thing too. Like yeah, as you said, like get along with your ex-partner and all that sort of thing. It's very rare these days, so it's good that you do that. I'm very thankful for that. I'm very like that with my ex-partner. We get along like ass and fine. We co-parent my daughter really well.
Speaker 5:So it's a very rare thing and you'll find that she'll grow up perfectly fine. Yeah, cool. Well, probably not, because I guess we all have something, don't we?
Speaker 1:But you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Because I could complain and whinge about my life. But when you think about it, you're the middle child. Your mum hated you. Your dad hated you. Your dad loved you too much yeah.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I'd hope it's just how you put it your dad loved you too much I'm starting to sweat.
Speaker 3:Oh, you're too much I'm starting to sweat. I love you too much. Where's the hanky? I need to wipe my forehead.
Speaker 5:Just look at Chevy's face. He's looking at me like I'm flustered. Did he just say what I think he said?
Speaker 4:No that's all right, that's good. What's wrong with you? I like it. Excuse me, so let's, I want to go back.
Speaker 5:Sorry, I'll just keep going on for tangents, and it's because I'm just way out there.
Speaker 4:You know I'm way out there. I love that. But that's why we love you, oshie, because I think the way you think is so different to a lot of the population, which to me I love. The way you think it's so out there, it's so different and for me those are the people that I want to surround myself with.
Speaker 4:That are just that are out of the box thinkers, that are people that are passionate, creative, joyful, that aren't depressive, that aren't constantly wallowing in their failures that they've achieved, that are constantly saying we can't do this.
Speaker 5:I hate that. Oh my God, that's why I'm such an introvert, and that's what people don't realize. People think I'm well. I'm actually, I suppose, an ambivert, so I'm an extroverted introvert, if that makes sense. Yes, I've always well, not always, but 15, 20 years of my life I spent on stage, so I was always wasn't with everyone. I never realised that until the other day when I was thinking about coming on here. But I'm actually an introvert. I spend all my time by myself. I have no friends. I don't hang out with people, for that exact reason. You don't have social media. I don't. Hey, you don't have social media. I used to have social media, but not anymore. Yeah, but then people were tagging me and things about other people and I was God.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:They obviously don't know me. They obviously don't know me To this day. People say, oh, I sent you something on social media and I'm like I haven't been on there for four years and I'm like wow.
Speaker 3:Because I do see you pop up on Facebook. Obviously, I know you don't have Facebook or anything, but yeah, I do see you pop up as a person you may know, that's it.
Speaker 5:Well, I did overtime on B-Crew on happy birthday. I'm going freaking hell. Do these guys know it's my birthday and I went ah.
Speaker 4:And it says on Facebook.
Speaker 5:But my point is it just blows my mind that people don't even realise which makes sense, because we're all in our own little world. You know what I mean. You think everybody's thinking about you, but nobody is.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Not a single person is. They're all thinking about themselves. Not a single person is acting.
Speaker 4:They're all thinking about themselves, yeah, which makes perfect sense, yeah, well, I mean. Yeah, it's natural for people to be selfish about that kind of thing. I think there's a healthy selfishness that people should have, absolutely. You should think about yourself and what you need and what you want in life. Like you say, you know that you have to make amends, so you want to put into action things and you want to surround yourself with people that are, you know, speaking the same message and uplifting and, you know, exude the same thing that you're doing, exude that laugh. So there is a sense of selfishness in that.
Speaker 5:Absolutely 100%. I don't personally like politics. I don't care about this whole Trump thing. I don't care about Ukraine. I don't care about this whole trump thing. I don't care about ukraine. I don't care about small talk.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I like big ideas and big thoughts and big issues and I know I mean just I remember the first conversation you had with me.
Speaker 4:I got to work and I was brand new and I'm nervous because obviously I'm in a new thing and I'm like in that industry that I had no idea about what I was getting into and I was like nervous, and all these people that are around me and you sit there and you had this conversation with me and you asked me all these like really in-depth questions about like where I come from, what's in africa, like what's my family, and I was like, oh, this is a lot. Who is this person there? But like you just weren't about small talk, that's yeah. And even to this day, how often do we find ourselves having really like we talk about podcasts that we listen to all the time and our thoughts and views on particular things and stances. It's a beautiful thing. And you were telling me about even a book that you an audible book that you were listening to called the Body by, I want to say, bryce Patterson.
Speaker 5:Yeah, who is it the Body Bryson?
Speaker 4:Bryson yes, which was like it's amazing. Did you download it? I've downloaded it I haven't started it yet.
Speaker 3:How good is it? No, but I am. Do you have Audible? Yes, I do have Audible.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the body, people, the body.
Speaker 5:It starts yeah it's absolutely brilliant, it's every single part of your body and it goes through how it works. But then little past histories and it's incredible it. But then little you know past histories and oh, it's incredible. Yeah, it would be, yeah, but like, and it's a trip.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, these are the conversations you and I are having at work.
Speaker 5:Dude, that's my life, that's what I this is all I do in my truck. Well, I love my truck so much I taught myself how to play freaking ukule. You and out of work.
Speaker 3:I was like what the frigging hell has he got?
Speaker 1:hanging out the back.
Speaker 3:One of the other boys said he goes, that's his ukulele. Yeah, that's when I met you through, obviously, my old man and all that, and I realised that you.
Speaker 5:That was a great night when we had that party at your dad's house.
Speaker 4:It was absolutely brilliant, yeah, he learning languages. You're up to five now. I think, well, you're busy learning five, is that right?
Speaker 5:Yeah, but because of my what would we call it neurodivergent brain, I'm always stopping and starting. You know what it's like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do and I get focused, yeah.
Speaker 5:But I always, unlike the ADHD brain, I always come back to it. Yeah, it's always cyclic, so I'm always building on whatever it is so. I don't know at the moment. Probably I know words from about 10 or 15 different languages. Yeah, right, but I've got to concentrate on Afrikaans. Yeah, you're doing well, though, on Afrikaans and on Croatian Croatian Because of Milos, because of Milo, milo, yeah.
Speaker 3:And Mil Croatian Because of Milos, because of Milo Milo. Milo is actually Croatian and he's Serbian. Yes, he's both.
Speaker 5:He's mom and dad.
Speaker 3:I said the same thing to him. I said to him I said yeah, a Serbian and a Croatian. How'd that go down, milo? Which?
Speaker 4:is so funny, but that just goes to show a lot of the languages that you are learning is because you have a connection to the language.
Speaker 5:It goes back and again it goes back to, like I said to you in the beginning, that back room.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:There was Orpah being in the minds. Yeah, just alone. Imagine all the Italians, the Afrikaans, the Germans, the French. There was just people from all over the world, always there. So there was all these languages and my, or oppa could speak six or seven different languages.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow, wow.
Speaker 5:That's crazy. Yeah, but he looked like Schultz. From what do you call it Hager's?
Speaker 3:Hero, hager's Hero, yeah. The dude with the monocle yeah.
Speaker 5:Imagine Matt Benny, but twice the size. Wow, that was my oppa. Yeah, he was a massive man, he was huge Matt.
Speaker 3:Benny used his belt up and tried to chase me. So not so much fat, just built.
Speaker 4:No one's got fat. Oh, I didn't mean it like that yeah, but very like a big stocky dude, he's a big unit. Who's a big unit Like your oppa? No, he's fat. You go to OPA.
Speaker 3:No, he was fat oh there you go.
Speaker 1:He was massive. That's what I was asking.
Speaker 5:That's what I'm saying he looked like Schultz, which is amazing because he played soccer for Victoria in Germany. What so? He played first grade soccer and did all of that before he came out. His story is amazing and you can see going back. I think it was Steve Jobs that says you connect the dots going backwards.
Speaker 2:you can, isn't it yeah?
Speaker 5:Well, you could see, going back, why he was an alcoholic, why my mum's an alcoholic, why I was an alcoholic. Yeah, because I don't believe that I'm an alcoholic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Most alcoholics don't Good stuff Chevy.
Speaker 5:No, I definitely won't. We'll have to go into that, because I'm definitely 100%.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but I think you can beat it. Yeah, but I think you can beat it. Yeah. My point is that I think, connecting the dots, going back, I could see how that all unfolded Just alone.
Speaker 5:Eisner, which is my real name, comes from a Jewish. I was going to say that's very Jewish. It's Jewish, yeah, and he was in the German Youth League. Hang on, wait a minute. So he was in Hitler's German Youth League and had no choice, because they would have killed his family if he hadn't have done it. And so they escaped. And then they escaped to Australia and none of that was ever known. That Eisner was clearly had Jewish origins and you can imagine going through all of that. They were big drinkers, so they just passed on and passed on. It was chaos in my house. It was because I spent so much time living with my oma yeah, yep, you know what I mean when my mum lost it and came back, lost it and came back. Yeah, it was just chaos. And I could see what is it? The Jesuits or whoever it is that says give me a boy to the age of seven and I'll show you the man.
Speaker 2:The Jesuits.
Speaker 5:Yeah, or Aristotle one of them, and he's exactly right because, you're pre-programmed and you're like that's all you see, that's all you know, yeah, yeah, it's crazy little things, like when I've had three different partners and every single time with them, it took me years to realise I used to get the shits and leave and then come back, which is exactly what my mum did around that time. That was so devastating to me, yeah, and I didn't realise that I was playing a pattern.
Speaker 5:That's when I got into self-help and realising hang on, everything is patterns. All I've got to do is correct these patterns. Yeah, I was going to say you've got to break the pattern. Just break the patterns, the whole Anthony Robbins thing. Break the pattern, interrupt the pattern. Put a new pattern in Ba-doom-ting.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's like they call it, for lack of a better term. I've always been quite interested in the whole Generational kind of curses that they talk about.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying with the alcohol thing, yeah, which is like they say, it's not in your genes that it's passed down, but it's these patterns of behavior that we learn and then it gets ingrained in us. Epigenetics, epigenetics, that's it. And it's insane because, like you say, when you look back and you go, man, I'm doing this, but I'm not doing it because of any other thing. But when I look back and I go, oh, so and so did it before me, and so and so did, it's like this was like ingrained in me when I was young, like I didn't learn this no, yeah, it's all just patterns and how magnificent and how wonderful that you get to change them.
Speaker 5:you don't have to stay that way. It's your choice, you get to choose.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, so let me ask you this then. Okay, so let's go back and we go to you. You obviously said you were in entertainment. What did you do in entertainment?
Speaker 5:Oh, I'll tell you. I went to, like you, I went to an all-boys school. Okay, how am I going to start this? So I went to an all-boys school. You loved all-boys school.
Speaker 4:Look, I loved aspects of it.
Speaker 5:But you're a sensitive person like me, so it would have been quite hard, because you embrace your femininity as well as your masculinity like I do. Yes, so I only had the masculine side. Okay, girls have always been my best friends.
Speaker 4:I, so I only had the masculine side.
Speaker 5:Okay, girls have always been my best friends. I totally agree. Always. Throughout my whole entire life, girls have been my best. I can be masculine, I can be very masculine. I've done martial arts, I've done all the stuff I've done. You know what I mean. But I like my feminine side too, and there was none of it for years At boys school, at the boarding school, for years. It's just crazy. You know what it's like.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:And the things that happened there was just crazy. Like I was called soapy dick for by 14,000.
Speaker 1:Please elaborate.
Speaker 5:No, okay well you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm like I'm, always.
Speaker 5:I make fun of everything.
Speaker 5:So we're on first school camp. I've got to this what do you call it? Year seven, first school camp, camp. I'm in the showers and I've got the worst gut ache in the whole entire world, yeah, so the teacher had to come in because I don't know appendix rupturing or something. It wasn't that, but it was bad. But the dude I was in the tent with said oh man, what happened? I said, oh, you're not going to believe it. I got soap in my dick and so, and so from that tent it went to another tent and this in sale. This is because I grew up in the RAF, from the age of 12 when my mum met my stepdad nicest man I've ever met in my life. God, I miss him. But so it went from tent to tent and then 14,000 people ended up calling me Sophie Dick. So I was in a lot of tears a lot of the time, but I didn't realise how powerful it was, because I also had all this attention and all these like the hot girls.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Isn't that just strange and weird. Like you're just this oddball. That's Sophie Dick. Hey, Sophie. Hey. That's Paul Salmon Fish. Obviously, his name was Fish. So I'm doing a gig at where was I? The Q Bar, or it was a big gig anyway. That was in town and there was probably 350 people in the back room. Is it the Kaz Bar? Yeah, the Kaz Bar. And so in that back room at the Kaz Bar there, and we were rocking out, I had everybody bouncing up and down, the song stopped and from right down the back I hear hey, Stripey.
Speaker 1:And I went oh fuck, here we go.
Speaker 5:That's amazing. I'm in New South Wales, not in Victoria. Keep in mind, there we are, oh no.
Speaker 4:That's insane.
Speaker 5:And I'm like, ah, here we go here we go. But by then it was hilariously funny because I'd been through what I'm about to tell you, which is the fact that when I got here, everything changed. How, oh, it was epic. I got here and when was that? That was 1987. Okay, so how old were you? 16.
Speaker 1:Okay, Okay, so how old were you 16.
Speaker 5:Okay, 16, 7, 8, 9.
Speaker 1:Yeah 16.
Speaker 5:And when I got here, I went straight into a co-ed school.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay, so it was very different.
Speaker 5:It was absolutely different, as you can imagine, and everything changed because obviously I got to hang out with the girls and so all my friends were girls, so I got that feeling side I got to have so that I wasn't so sensitive. But then I also we had a film crew. My family got this is 87, 88. Yeah, my family got picked as the RAF family to show off trying to get people into the RAF. Yeah, beyond Blue Skies or something it was called. So a film crew followed me and my family around for two days.
Speaker 1:School everywhere.
Speaker 5:And this is pre-internet, so you can imagine that was like being Mr Beast if that makes sense, yeah, right, because you've got a film crew following you around and everyone's like what the what's going on with this?
Speaker 4:You would have been the popular one, for sure.
Speaker 5:And it was beyond amazing and I had girlfriends I had then I because I could get that feeling side out. No one knew I could sing or entertain or anything like that. So I ended up getting into the school plays and it was. This whole thing was like a movie, like a hero's journey, because it was so horrible. Things like being in year 10 just alone. I was top in all my marks because I'd basically already been at boys' school, done all that work the year before because, as you know, you were always. They paid so much money, you were always ahead of, ahead of the schedule yeah.
Speaker 5:Of everything. So I can look back and I remember every comment was Jason is an outstanding student who needs to moderate his behaviour for the sake of others, because I could sit there as you know and just talk, talk, talk, talk, but I can take everything in at the same time.
Speaker 5:I've got a really good memory, so I can take everything in at the same time, plus do all my schoolwork. Yeah, that was what I was saying to you, one of the benefits of having a brain like ours. No, mine's opposite, no, but that's when you're focused.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, when you're focused.
Speaker 5:And then I was the lead in school plays and I talked the footy players into being in the school play and they were spectacular, yeah right.
Speaker 5:And it was just everyone's like what the frigging hell is going on. This is amazing. So we got all those stoner kids coming every single show, the ones that eat the sandboy chips up the back of the room. They're all sitting there going. Ah, it was absolutely brilliant. Just coming up, VFL was. You love the AFL? I do. Vfl was way back in the 80s, so when us RAF kids came to here, it was only just starting out. So we were superstars. We're only schoolboy players, but we were all superstars because it was all brand new, just everything changed.
Speaker 5:It was absolutely epic.
Speaker 4:Okay, and so from school plays, you were like this is what I want to do. Screwing teachers.
Speaker 5:That's when I joined the opera company You're never going to have to put a warning label and here comes the alcohol.
Speaker 4:Okay, joined the opera.
Speaker 5:They weren't full school teachers.
Speaker 1:They were yeah, substitutes.
Speaker 3:They were substitutes.
Speaker 5:I was winning Shakespearean plays and doing all sorts of stuff, and so I went into the light opera company as Mercury, which was epic. Yeah, so here I am in the light opera company doing light operas in Newcastle and all sorts of stuff. Yeah, that's when the drinking started. Like really, that's a lie. The drinking started when I was 13, 14. Wow, but yeah.
Speaker 4:But it became a young man.
Speaker 5:My dad was real high up in the RAF.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:So I can remember, probably 15 or 16,. He didn't talk to me for three and a half months because he was having. He had the Air Commodore of Australia over and I'd drunk a bottle of vodka, walked home and was throwing up everywhere. He had to take me in the shower with the Air Commodore there. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3:That would have went down like a lead balloon.
Speaker 5:The dude was a legend and you've got to remember too. He was like a big brother, because I was 12 when he married my mum and he was 24. Wow, he was the nicest, most beautiful man you could possibly ever meet. He changed. He was probably the one that changed everything.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:He changed everything. He 100% changed everything, because without him we wouldn't. My mum wouldn't be who she is now. Yeah, She'd still be chucking shit and doing all the stuff but she changed dramatically. It was amazing and I wouldn't have had he taught me so much stuff and his dad was in the RAF and his brother was a doctor, and so you can imagine my. Do you remember how much money they used to pay for us to go to boys' school?
Speaker 4:No, it was ridiculous.
Speaker 5:Can you imagine how disappointed my mummy and daddy were that I'm not a doctor or a lawyer. I feel Indian when I hear those Indians. You're either a doctor or a lawyer, or you're an engineer or you're nothing. You know those. You hear either a doctor or a lawyer, or you're an engineer or you're nothing.
Speaker 3:You know those, you hear those on the podcast. Yeah, that's how I felt sometimes.
Speaker 5:But now I look back and I laugh and I go yeah, I'm a miner.
Speaker 4:You know, you remind me of when you used to say that it was old Russell Peters. Have you heard him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was hilarious.
Speaker 5:But he was like, yeah, all the Indians are like you've got to be a doctor, A doctor, a lawyer or an engineer. But he changed everything and, as I can say, he was like a big brother because, 24 years old, he had everything. He showed me everything. He was the most patient, kind, loving man you could ever hope to meet. And so once I started trusting him, it changed everything. Yeah, and again. Then everything changed and from there I became Mr Flim Flam Singing Telegram man. Singing Telegram man. Yeah, I was a year out from the Earthquake concert. I'm in the footage of the Earthquake concert. This is the thing too. I've been in heaps of ads and heaps of different stuff.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's always been since I got up here. But if you see the old footage of the Earthquake concert, we started all the blanket throwing all the waves, all the different stuff. Raymond Terrasai go, raymond.
Speaker 3:Terrasai. Yeah, nobody likes Raymond Terrasai, I don't think they're called that anymore.
Speaker 5:They call it yeah. I look back at the footage a few years ago and here's me in my bad boy Billy shirt. I had that because everyone called me Billy, because we had five Jasons in the football and I had Billy Idol hair. So, like everyone called me Billy, so to this day sometimes if I hear Billy, I go oh, here we go.
Speaker 3:This should be interesting. You have to break out some old photos, billy.
Speaker 5:But yeah, so then I got into that into the Flim Flam singing telegram, so I'd go along doing. A singing telegram from Mr Flim Flam is here, yeah.
Speaker 4:And then I'd do singing telegrams plus I'd deliver balloons, and all that.
Speaker 5:Once I had to be a stripper because the stripper didn't turn up and I was running the whole shebang. And years later, the 18-year-old girl, who was probably 24 at the time she goes you stripped at my 18th birthday and I went.
Speaker 3:Sorry she goes no, it was great. It was unlike anything I've ever seen. I was just about to ask if you killed it. That's awesome, so it was a once-off.
Speaker 5:But I was non-stop drinking, non-stop Okay, so Non-freaking-stop when did this culminate for you?
Speaker 4:Because obviously, like you said, you were an addict when it came like you said, but now you've obviously you feel like you've come out of that. When did drinking come to a point where you were like this is a problem? I need help About 15 minutes ago, just before I came in here, he drinks rum.
Speaker 3:Do I smell like rum? Do I? I'm trying to brush my teeth.
Speaker 5:This is awesome Over the years. It's taken years and years, but it's like a but you would have had an aha moment.
Speaker 4:Everyone has like that. Aha, I need to-.
Speaker 5:Oh, the first time I stopped drinking for five years. Yeah, yeah, that's when I tried to choke my wife to death. Wow, yeah, that's pretty dark, isn't it? Yeah, and my daughter, willow, looked up at me and said Daddy, what are you doing? So I took myself to James Fletcher, okay, which is a mental institution. I don't know if it's still around, james Fletcher, is it?
Speaker 3:I'm not you. I look straight at you. Is Dave Funcher still around? Is it Chevy? Whereabouts is it? Is that the one at Stockton?
Speaker 5:No, I can't. No, Newcastle area, it's in Newcastle. Yeah, it might be the private hospital one. Then it might be now I'm not sure. That was back in 2001 after a night of getting on to her best friend breaking up with my band In one night. Yeah, it was horrific, dude, Wow. Then I took myself to jail and I'm sitting there and I'm excuse my language, going what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, Because I can remember clearly hearing the vacuum cleaner going and the lady had said have you been drinking? And I said yes and I've been drinking for two days straight. Oof, the whole of the 90s pretty much was my house, was party central.
Speaker 3:We had every musician and every from.
Speaker 4:Newcastle around nonstop all the time and I used to go to her and, yeah, a few, yeah, your name dropping. No, no, I can't do that, no. You're not getting anyone in trouble, I'll tell you one story later, though, that's absolutely brilliant that you'll
Speaker 5:love okay, um yeah, so, uh, after that I'd come back and that all happened, and so then I said, like that inner voice, you know the inner voice, it's in there, everyone's got it, everyone's got it.
Speaker 5:Everyone's got it. Yeah, people try and push it aside. Yeah, but you know that it's a good inner voice when it's telling you good things. I think you've got a bad one and a good one, and the good one says you really need to, it's time, because I'd stopped and started, I'd been trying my hardest you know what I mean and so I ended up getting that 12,. I had earlier the 12 Steps book.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Absolutely brilliant. It's a brilliant book, but then I went to the first meeting and I walked out because I was this. It might work for some people, but it was. Yeah, it was nothing like the book nothing.
Speaker 2:And I could see these people.
Speaker 5:I've been drinking. I haven't been drinking for 20 years and every single day I wake up and I'm sitting there thinking, just fucking drink, no. I was being like. I was thinking, dude, if you just drink, it can't be any more stressful than do you know what I mean? These people were so, and then they brought the whole God thing in. But it was, yeah, there was in the book. It says there is no God, but then they were doing the prayers from. I remember back in boarding school I was a day boy, by the way, not a boarder oh I was a boarder.
Speaker 5:yeah, yeah, you were a boarder and yeah, so I ended up giving up for five years. Okay, and they were telling me also, the number one thing when I walked out was you're not going to be able to go to pubs and clubs and entertain and blah, blah, blah. And I went yeah, see, I can make this work. Yeah, so I, yeah, so I left there and after about a year, my wife had a lot of problems too. We were shit parents.
Speaker 5:We were just yeah and I'm talking when I'm saying alcohol. We were. You know what I mean. Yeah, we made really good money and had nothing to show for it. I can remember, uh, looking for coins in the back of the um lounge so that I could buy tallyho papers, so that I could go and pick up butts from the ground. Oh my, and this is me making ridiculous good money, but I've spent it all on alcohol, drugs and gambling. Yeah, massively, just trying to. Yeah, I hated myself back then, shane God, I hated myself.
Speaker 5:And that's why I kept drinking. I kept drinking over and over and over.
Speaker 2:That's the thing.
Speaker 1:I was going to say yeah.
Speaker 5:Because when I sober up, the good me would come out.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And I hated myself so bad when the good me came out yeah, but yeah. So after a year she said you're not a drinker and you're still an asshole. And I knew I wasn't anymore. Yeah, and so yeah. That anymore, yeah, and so, yeah, that's when you, that's when the first time yeah, for five years. Okay, and then I went through. I started getting some karma back with my next two partners yeah, which was absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 5:I love them both dearly, I'm so thankful to them yeah, oh god, they're bitches and the most beautiful people I've ever met Just mirrors. Yeah, they were just mirrors. They were just showing me because I'd stayed sober. So you know what I mean. And I was like this is absolutely brilliant. So I had another kid and then Pam came along and, yeah, five, five and a half years in I couldn't cope anymore and I smashed up the house and then the police came and I was sitting there crying, barricading the fence with because I knew what was coming barricading the fence with rocks.
Speaker 5:I can see little snippets of it in my mind Seven paddy wagons turned up Wow, seven. Because I've got all my black belt grading things up on the wall and they said is this him? So they're thinking that I'm some sort of crazy psycho. Here's me crying and my wife's going. He doesn't drink, he's just lost it. He doesn't drink, wow, yeah, just lost it. He doesn't drink, wow.
Speaker 5:And yeah, that was crazy, and the thing was I got arrested by a girl I went to school with no. Nikki was saying to me Jase, what are you doing? And I'm like I don't know, nikki, I really just don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And then I went years and years, more, years more, something I can't remember how many years still doing what I was doing. Yep, yeah, but then about 2015, 16, pam and I broke up. We just outgrew each other.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, like you say, you're still best of friends.
Speaker 5:She had daddy issues, I had mummy issues. We helped each other.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:We both took responsibility for we both did horrible things to each other, but loved each other to death.
Speaker 4:And still do Like best friends do and still do. Yeah.
Speaker 5:She would drop anything for me, I'd drop anything for her. Her partner's beautiful, he's a beautiful man and they're really well suited and it makes me happy that way because the kids love him too. I've been so lucky, hey, yeah, yeah, beyond freaking lucky. But around that time, yeah, then I thought, looking back, I know that I went what's the point?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And so I just started drinking again. I thought, what's the freaking point? And then I'd do things like hang out with homeless guys, buy them drinks, cigarettes. We'd just hang around. I'd just hear their stories, which helped to drag me out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Until I fell back again, trampolining backwards and forwards, backwards and forwards, self-sabotaging on this whole self-journey, falling in and out, in and out, in and out, and then it just became less and less and less. And my really smart daughter said to me you do realise you're trampolining. I said what do you mean? She goes. Do you not realise this is a good thing? She said look back on your life how you were. This is one of my older daughters. She said look back on your life, look who you are now, because they came to live with me, yeah, when they were 13 and 15.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Mum's a psycho because I hadn't seen her for five years. Yeah, and I got a phone call out of the blue and their whole lives changed.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And they've got that whole. What I love about these two is they've got this whole twin thing. It's like a metaphor I use, like one doesn't drink because her dad was an alcoholic and one drinks because her dad was an alcoholic. Oh wow, does that make sense?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:So one's lost and one's not lost.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And the one that's not really lost has found herself, is the one that said to me it's a good thing.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Because look who you are now.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And I thought, wow, because self-sabotage, yeah. So the last run was after that last lot of my zone a year before. This is the thing too. That's why I looked up ADHD and I self-diagnosed myself because, clearly, 100%, I tick every single box. Yeah, yeah, I mean I've got 17 ukuleles, I've got.
Speaker 4:I've done. I've been to uni three times.
Speaker 5:I've done three different things. I've done geography. I've done horticulture for a year. I did a herbal medicine degree for a year and a half. I have three different types of keyboards, 14 different flutes, languages.
Speaker 2:Languages.
Speaker 5:Languages nonstop. So I go down these, you know what I'm talking about Exactly. You always start something and then, yeah, you tend to put it down and never go back to it, and my diet's changed everything. That's another thing, but the last run was yeah, everything is always. I go on this incredible high.
Speaker 5:So, I often thought I was bipolar. But then I look back and I go I've never been depressed or suicidal and nobody could ever. If I've ever sat down and talked with therapists, none of them could ever help me. They're like that makes sense and I'm like, oh well, thanks for that. And one of them said to me that you're going to have to help yourself.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you're just eccentric. And I said, well, I've always felt that way, my mum always said that about me and they go, you need to help yourself. Nobody's going to be able to help you, but you and I know it's a great thing for people to go, and you know what I mean. Yeah, and I thought, wow, yeah, so there's probably a lot of people out there that should just you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Yeah, go down the rabbit hole, the self-help rabbit hole, and try and Okay, so that leads me to one like maybe Sorry for rambling I'm going off on tangents, because I'm seeing everything in a mind map.
Speaker 4:It Kind of maybe let's bring it into like a bit of a nice little bow at the end here, someone who's listening to this now and going, my goodness, I can resonate with one two. Maybe there's a lot of what your story that can resonate, whether that be the addiction side of things, the self-sabotage kind of things. I'm going to be. I know for me, listening to your story. I can resonate with the self-sabotage thing because I know, prior to my wife, I hadn't dealt with my mommy issues like you were talking about. I hadn't got to the point where I had truly forgiven, to a point where I'd let it go. It was still affecting me because I had a big thing with rejection, because in my mind, my mom rejected me, she, she pushed me, I wasn't good enough, yep.
Speaker 4:Therefore, every relationship I had got into I would work so hard to earn the love, earn the, the, the care and compassion from the partner and then, as soon as I got it, I would then start to protect and start looking for it somewhere else, because I knew in my head it was going to end someone they were eventually going to find out and they were eventually going to reject me. So let me look for something else before that happens, so I can protect myself and not have that happen. So I resonate with the self-sabotage, like you say. It's crazy, isn't it? Yeah, so someone is listening to this and going, hey, I can resonate with your story, walshie. What advice would you give them in order to help with whatever it is in their particular area that they resonate in with you, whether that be addiction side of things, or self-sabotage, whatever it is. What would your piece of advice be?
Speaker 5:This, above all, to thine own self. Be true, and it must follow as day the night. Thou canst not then be false to any man. You've got to be yourself 100%. Take in what everybody says, but be true to yourself. What you believe you need to believe, you need to. You know what I mean. You've got to be you, irrespective of whether anybody else thinks it's right or wrong. Truly, you have to be yourself. Yeah, anybody else thinks it's right or wrong. Truly, you have to be yourself. It's great to have.
Speaker 5:I call it the iOS Android syndrome. It's where and you see it, it's where somebody will say Apple is the greatest product that ever existed and Samsung shit. And you say, well, how long did you use a Samsung product for? Well, I've never used Samsung. Yeah, I just know it's shit. And then somebody will say Samsung's the greatest because Apple does this and does that and does this. And you'll say, well, how long did you use Apple for? And they'll say, well, I've never used an Apple product. Everybody just knows it's shit. So the only cure is to try everything, not just temporarily. Try everything you possibly can. Fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail. Try everything until you find you, I guess.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So not necessarily listen to other people's opinions on what they think is shit, but just try it for yourself, type of thing.
Speaker 5:Shane was talking before about being selfish. I'm selfish in the way that I no longer how will I put it? I no longer attach myself to the good or bad opinions of others, but I do take everything in. Yeah, cool, yeah. Sometimes I know I come across as arrogant and again I don't hang out with people and people don't understand because they see the crazy, happy, excited side of me, the extroverted side. But I need to be introverted and selfish, like you were talking about before, so that I can figure myself out. If you take the opinions of everybody I don't know how to put it If you hold on to just one opinion, you're lost because life's balance.
Speaker 5:Yeah, Life is balance. It's so funny because I Sorry, shane, I look back and things that I thought I now going through boys' school. I was always kicked out of classes to do with religion. I'm now spiritual and I do believe there's a supreme intelligence of some kind, whereas back then I was adamant there was absolutely nothing. So your opinions can change.
Speaker 4:Yeah 100%.
Speaker 5:They can change and they probably should. That's how we grow as people. It might change again. That's right, but I don't think. For me personally, I never did. I held on to views and I looked back and I'd go, wow, you held on to this for so long, but you are so radically different to.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's funny because I heard something literally this morning that lines up with what you're saying here, and it was people view you with the perspective of how they need you. Yes, so, for instance, they like you and they want to be around you because they think that you are, or they need a savior. For instance, they like you and they want to be around you because they think that you are, or they need a savior. For instance, they need someone to pull them out of the dark place, so they'll hang around you because they need that from you. Or they'll hate you because you're so happy and so outgoing and they are not, and so they look at you at the enemy, and so that's their perspective of you. So they need you to be the enemy in order to feel better about themselves.
Speaker 4:So the reason why I say that is because, like you say, people have these varying perspectives in a position of where they need you to be in order to either justify their perspective of things or justify how they see you, and so I think what you're saying is so true. It's like don't worry about other people's perspective of you. Yes, hear them out, but at the end of the day, the most important thing is your own perspective, because they're always going to look at you from a perspective of where they need you to be in their life, yep, and at the same token they might be right.
Speaker 5:So you've got to be introspective as well and think to yourself could they be right here? Because there is. Sometimes I go, yeah, no, I get that because I'm pretty spicy, so I can imagine I'm hard to swallow for some people. In fact, what you just said is the story of my life. I totally get it and there's no in between People either like me or they hate me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And I kind of like it Again. It makes life interesting, you know what. I mean yeah, yeah, because what they don't get is I love them either way. I love everybody. I genuinely love people. I don't yeah, they, just I love people, they sound like an old hippie, don't they?
Speaker 4:The acid's kicking in. We love people as well. Trust me, and it's proof in the fact that we put a lot of time into what we do here. We don't get paid to do this, no, but we love people.
Speaker 5:It's crazy, isn't it? Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 4:And we know we get a lot of flack for what we do. A lot of people go you guys don't sound good, or you guys maybe don't produce the most entertaining stuff, or you guys are stupid.
Speaker 5:At the end of the day, you should probably think you could speak French.
Speaker 3:We don't care, Seriously we don't care Me and Shane. Shane works his ass off in here doing all the editing and all that, because I can't do any of that stuff. He's really good and I try and get out and make some connections and we cop flack for it, man, but at the end of the day, you know what? Do you reckon, Shane?
Speaker 4:We just do us.
Speaker 5:We just do us, we love people Imagine if you just made a difference to me today. By the way, thanks, walshie.
Speaker 3:No, you truly have.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's awesome. I've just put some stuff out there and rarely tell anybody anything and it's actually quite good, I'm like.
Speaker 4:And that's only a quarter of it. I know, and the reason you know I got you on here Is because I know you and I have had some really like Good conversations when I've walked away going man. That's a completely different perspective of what I was thinking. I like to think that.
Speaker 5:I am freaking nuts.
Speaker 4:No, it's such a good way. Like you, and I've had some really good conversations. I remember you and I sitting in a crib at like one o'clock in the morning. I know where you're going and we're talking about imposter syndrome. And you were like I know, I know all about imposter syndrome and I was like what do you mean? You know surely you do not? And you're like, no, no, I know about imposter syndrome. And you and I ended up having a conversation about imposter syndrome and how you said to me at one stage in your life it was a real inside there was a completely different, jason walsh.
Speaker 5:Yeah, 100. Yeah, that's where the that whole alcohol thing. When I say I hated myself, oh god, I hated myself because that's not who I was, so you could be an imposter for the positive and the negative, I think you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean, so I want to say thank you for sharing with us today. That went bloody quick, didn't?
Speaker 3:it. Yeah, what are you going for? You're going to be good so far.
Speaker 4:Oh no, he's done crazy, crazy well and for that.
Speaker 1:Obviously Walshie Can't see crewie. I'm glad you threw that in.
Speaker 4:I'm glad you threw that in. That's awesome. Yeah, so, walshie, thank you very much, obviously, for sharing and for allowing a lot of people, I think, to get a real different insight into who you are. I think everyone listening will agree when they say they've seen a different walsh walshy. Um, everyone who knows you should I say everyone who doesn't know you. You've seen a real gem of a human being and I, I, I really, I really do appreciate you being open and honest and I remember, even before we were talking about this, you were like you're going to make me cry? Yeah, just just tell me. Like, just you lead it, let's go, keep going, sean, keep going. You were just like, just lead the conversation, I'll go wherever you want me to go. Like I'll say whatever you like, there's nothing off limits and like for me, I was like that's, that's a real vulnerable like state to be in, and you're just like let's do it.
Speaker 5:I'm just thankful you uh, you didn't mention the serial killing. Like I said in the beginning, we'll touch on that later.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, we thought for legal reasons. Yeah, I'm watching you. That's awesome. So well she. Thank you so much for joining us on the podcast today. We, um, we really appreciate it and I can honestly probably say it won't be the last time we're going to have you on Nah.
Speaker 3:Because I know you've got a boot full of stories to tell.
Speaker 5:I've got some good stuff coming up. To tell you the truth, yeah, and when they do come up.
Speaker 4:That's maybe a great opportunity for Get you On to share. That might have to be a revisited Shane.
Speaker 3:Yeah, While she revisited.
Speaker 4:Copy that.
Speaker 3:While she 2.0. I just, yeah, pretty much said what Shane said. You know, thanks for coming on giving us the time of day. Mate really appreciate it and you're a good human and hopefully someone can take something away from what you've said today.
Speaker 5:So yeah really appreciate it yeah we appreciate you.
Speaker 4:Love you boys. No, love you too, walshy. Love you Walshy. Yeah, so to Walshie. Thank you very much, shiv as well.
Speaker 3:Oh no, this has been an awesome episode. I'm going away with a sore gut and sore cheeks after listening to Walshie's stories.
Speaker 5:I don't think we've ever laughed as much as we have in the last episode so thank you. Better do some editing, I think.
Speaker 4:You reckon no way 100% no ways you listeners are hearing to right now has nothing has been cut out. This is all genuine, 100% Walsh. He said it. No AI, no nothing. We will definitely have you back on Walsh. 100%, absolutely Shev. We obviously would love to also put out we've got some exciting news that is going to come up, yes, in the next couple weeks. So we're not love to also put out we've got some exciting news that is going to come up.
Speaker 4:Yes, in the next couple weeks, so we're not going to reveal too much? No, we're not going to mention it too much but before Christmas, let me put it down before Christmas you will hear that we have some new things that we will be announcing on Live Aloud, on podcast, which we are really excited about. It is stressful work. Stressful work?
Speaker 3:yeah, it has been stressful getting all this stuff set up, but we have got a few things in the pipeline and yeah, yeah, that kind of stuff in the pipeline, and I just want to take my hats off to you too, so the listeners can now actually check out our website.
Speaker 4:Yep, yeah, we now have a website, thanks to Shane.
Speaker 3:What's the website called boys? We're just about to knock it off, so at least they can check that out, yeah.
Speaker 4:New website. Go out and log on. Leave a light on podcastcomau.
Speaker 3:Head on over.
Speaker 4:Check it out. Go check it out. It's got some info. We'll also, like we said, have some to put out there in the future, but we'll have all the information about the podcast. How you can connect with us Facebook, instagram, youtube, tiktok all of that will be on there. Email addresses for anyone who wants to contact us Obviously, we have the leavealightonpodcast at outlookcom and we also have now admin at leavealightonpodcastcomau. So those are our email addresses. Otherwise, drop us a message on Instagram or Facebook as well. Yep, so those are the ways that you can connect, and then also, all our podcasts will be up there if you are looking for another platform to listen to them on, because we don't have enough, let's be honest. Yeah, spotify, apple, youtube, deezer, our heart radio oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know how to write a heart radio yeah, oh, we are on Higher Heart Radio.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we are on Higher Heart Radio. Yeah, cool, yeah, just a few to name 98.1, asked me about that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I don't know whether you are Are the same, but I haven't understood A single thing he said.
Speaker 3:He's quite good, he's.
Speaker 5:No, he's alright.
Speaker 3:I've gotten used to it.
Speaker 5:He's alright, I always give you. I've just been nodding and making things up as I go along. You're, I like that Simpsons episode.
Speaker 3:Mr Thompson, that's awesome. No, I really appreciate everything from both of you blokes. Yeah, and let's wrap this baby up. Let's wrap this baby up.
Speaker 4:Shiv, thank you very much.
Speaker 3:One thing I want to say to you happy birthday for the 27th, happy birthday for the 26th, 25th day apart, look at that 25th day apart, which would mean by the time this episode comes out we would have had our birthday. Probably, so everyone listening you better have wished us. Anyway.
Speaker 1:Are we working that night? No, we're off.
Speaker 3:No, we're off. It's a Tuesday and his is a Wednesday.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, middle of the block. You're actually really good. That's one of the things I'll commend you with. You're really good with remembering people's birthdays.
Speaker 3:I really must know Get yourself a book. You've done it for four years.
Speaker 5:Get a PDF.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:That's called Harry Lorraine. How to Develop a Super Memory.
Speaker 4:How to Develop I did it years ago, harry.
Speaker 5:Lorraine yeah, think of a cloud. Can you see a cloud in your mind's eye?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Okay, now make it hairy. Can you see a hairy cloud? Yes, put it down low, down, near your, below your knees, below my knees. And now it's raining. Oh, look at it.
Speaker 4:It's raining on your feet.
Speaker 5:It's raining on my feet with a hairy low rain, harry lorraine, oh I was wondering where he was going with that, that's awesome what's his name harry lorraine harry lorraine. As long as you see the picture in your mind, that's all it is. And then you learn the numbers and it is so ridiculously simple it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4:It's a joke Unbelievable, wow. Well, go check that out.
Speaker 5:It's a gift.
Speaker 4:That's a beautiful little nugget right at the end of the podcast.
Speaker 1:Sorry about that.
Speaker 4:No, it's beautiful. Yeah, the gift that keeps coming literally that.
Speaker 3:That's exactly right.
Speaker 5:Shut up, walsh. You were trying to finish this thing.
Speaker 3:That was alright. It's all good Side note shift yeah, no. Anyway, boys.
Speaker 4:Being awesome. Thanks for listening. Yeah, thank you very much. I was going to say and girls, but obviously you were referring to us in here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, thanks to everyone.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we love all the horses. Yeah, go check out our website, socials. We love you. Thank you very much for listening and always remember guys, stay safe, stay safe, be kind. Leave a light on. Let's leave a light on oh wait, what We've actually. That's one thing I do want to add. We have now got a leave a light on slogan that we want to put out.
Speaker 5:Oh, what's the slogan? Shizer? Yes, we do, I want.
Speaker 3:Before he tells us he come up with this yesterday for the website. Anyone that hasn't jumped on the website just yet, which you probably have, is mate. When he told me this, he is awesome.
Speaker 1:This is amazing so we've got a slogan. Knock it out.
Speaker 4:It's something that I really love, and it's nice and short, which is great. It's awesome. So, basically, guys, we would love you to share this with us, because this is going to be literally our motto, that we're for, but it's leave a light on a voice where everyone belongs.
Speaker 3:How good is that. He made that up.
Speaker 5:That's beautiful, how good is that Sounds like AI.
Speaker 4:No, that's me bro.
Speaker 3:That's me bro. That's me bro. He did the name, so he did the light. Leave a light on podcast name, which.
Speaker 4:I loved when you did that, I think that's genius Leave a light on a voice where everyone belongs.
Speaker 5:Thanks, for having me boys.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Olshie.
Speaker 4:Appreciate you Enjoy, stay safe, be kind and let's leave a light on.
Speaker 2:Hey, thanks for listening. We hope you managed to gain some insight from today's episode. Jump onto our socials and reach out, and until next time, wherever you are.