Best Frienemies

Joel Life-Coaches Sharam

Sharam Namdarian + Joel Temperly

WHAT?

JOEL LIFE COACHES SHARAM!?

What a wild ride.

In the last episode, Sharam Namdarian (who used to be a life coach) coached Joel Temperly, but in this episode, JOEL RETURNS THE FAVOUR (badly).

This episode also features Marc Oszhka because he walked in.

EPISODE CHAPTERS:

00:00 – Intro & chaotic start
01:12 – Sharam and Joel’s podcast history
04:25 – Comparing old podcast flings vs long-term commitment
07:10 – Who actually does the podcast work?
10:05 – Dirty Secrets comedy & “triangle of sadness” chat
13:30 – Movie talk: Triangle of Sadness & shapes banter
17:15 – The “Magnific 7” show idea
20:40 – Life coaching twist: who’s coaching who?
23:05 – Sharam’s stage name struggles
26:15 – Surprise guest: Marc Oszhka drops in
28:20 – Footy banter, beers, and panel shows
30:05 – Wrapping up & Shaz/Shazam stage name debate
31:00 – Outro


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Welcome to this episode of Best Friendmies. In this episode, uh, I life coach Sharam only after he coaches me on how to life coach. And then Mark Oshia is here too. And I am bit of a voyerist. Yeah. Psychological counseling sessions. Yeah, it's it's [ __ ] up this episode. Um, I hope you like it. Now we're on on like Donkey Kong. Is that uh Can we Can we say that? Yeah, we can say that. That is legally okay. Although Disney, is it Disney? Nintendo. Who cares? Uh, Best Friend Enemies podcast. I'm Char and that's Joel. Who cares? Flying start. Yeah, this has finally broken you, hasn't it? It's I would love to. I was tired. If I Maybe that's a little activity our um fan base could do. Uh, go back through episodes one to um what episode are we up to? Uh, episode I don't care. 145. just watch every episode and see how Sharam came in like a bull in a china shop and and he was met with this just Yeah. And now you're like it's the best friendmies and I'm like I don't care man. I'm messaging you more to do the pod that if you told me start if you told me at the start it's 50/50. If you told me that it was close to 50/50 that I'd be messaging you saying hey want to do a pod. Holy moly. I would have jumped in front of a tram cuz that's uh uh I mean that's just where my head went. But also that's a surprise that I'm always I'm going like pure you want to do a pod can I can I let it be known that you this is the only pod that's this is such a stream can I just say can I just say that you suck I just want to talk about my lived experience cuz have you noticed how many podcasts you started before this one you know you were flirting you were dating other podcast Billy and with a chance of Joel got two episodes of that in Billy who Billy Billy Styles oh with Billy yeah we had two episodes who Who? I thought that's what you were referencing. Yeah. No, but then there was also You had more. Do you have like two more? Oh, I did. Uh, well, there was Hamish and me. Hamish Dio shout out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hish. It was um Mish and Impossible. And I was Impossible. And I was kind of uh that's kind of the Tracy man show to our Simpsons. Mhm. That's we kind of took that concept of like me [ __ ] on [ __ ] Hamish being pretty optimistic. Okay. Okay. Until he met me and that's what's transpiring now. And what was the Billy one? What was that? That was Billy with a chance of Joel. Yeah. So, he was just talking and sometimes you would talk. Honestly, that's where the name. It was It was just uh uh It was a very gregarious laugh. Like an uncle on Christmas Day. Like that's cuz I was enjoying things. Yeah. At a deep level. You know, you know how to enjoy things at a deep level. uh when it happens I'll say I mean if something is worth me enjoying uh I'll give you uh the the gist on how I enjoyed it. Yeah. What I'm trying to say is this podcast is the only this is your long-term relationship. Everything else was just flirting casual [ __ ] around. What? Three episodes, two episodes, sometimes even one episode. Yeah. One night stands just ideas, premises, just um flittering thoughts, glints, you know, glimmers in the eye. What What about this podcast made you commit? Was it the fact that I that you were going to do all the work. Yeah. Yeah. It is that I do all the work pretty much and you continue to do all the work. Uh and I'm I always say uh at on a regular basis I'm happy to help but then also like clenching my butthole hoping that you don't say actually Joel you could do and I'll just be like you know like in the cartoons the road runner like he moves so quickly that the cloud of the road road is still there. I've sent you Google drives. I've sent hey you can take this and you can make clips. Yeah. How many clips have you made? None whatsoever. How many clips have I made? I make like two an episode. How many views have they got? Not that much. Is this podcast now just us talking about the podcast? Yes. Frankly, that is probably an area of fascination for most of the listeners. Like, why are we doing this? That's Yeah, it's kind of it looks a bit naval gazing a little bit. Keep talking. I just want to check if that's recording cuz I can't tell. Oh, no. No, no, I can't tell. It It was, but I just can't tell. That was a scary That was my nervous moment. Well, anyway. Anyway, point is is tune in next time for the episode where we talk about this episode where we spoke about the podcast. I mean, that's we're just going to get more meta as time goes on. That's good a premise as I can think of. It's just every epa is like just we talk about what the podcast is going to be about. That's pretty much what we're doing. That should be an early That was an early episode. And I think it's a bit like uh you're a fan of Harmon Town. I imagine it's a bit like that. It was the idea was the initial idea Dan Harmon had was we'll have a a town hall meeting because we're going to leave Earth to go to the moon and that was the initial premise of Harmon Town and eventually just became they talked about anything but that. It just became a weekly human. That's what this is. Well, speaking of that, uh we're developing lore in this episode. Oh, yeah. Lore. L O R E. Yeah, we're dropping that lore. Um, last episode, if you know, I gave Joel a uh a Rogering of a lifetime in the form of a life coaching session. Yeah, you really uh which I've seen you. I've seen you perform since and you got angry, but you looked happy to be angry. I was like, yeah, smile so Sharam can believe in himself. Yeah, that's what that was. But you harnessed your anger for the power of good. Every time I come to uh comedy at Can I see that? Yeah. I don't know. I don't care. comedy at Dirty Secrets. Uh I walk out of the uh performance space. Yeah. Probably when the audience is still within earshot and you can call it what it is and I go what dirt hole cuz we are in a hole. This actually brings us kind of foreshadowing here to our That's a bit of foreshadowing to today's premise that I'm going to life coach you. Yeah. Because boy do you need it. Straighted my dirt hole. That was so negative. Like you No, I'm just talking about Oh, last time I was a dirty I I say and I was about Oh, here's what I was going to say. I was going to say, where do you find these people? Cuz they seem to be the most You always say that. Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying anyway. But that's it. They're the they're the most miserable people. I mean, it's Smith Street. Like the triangle of sadness, I called it while DMing today. You were very I think you were very proud of that. I was proud of you, too. For any international listeners, the triangle of sadness in Melbourne is uh Smith Street. We'll we'll put up a graphic for this. No, we're not. Yeah. Well, the graphic will be I do all the work. I'm not doing. There'll be a Melway screenshot right there of this of I think it's map I think it's map 52 or something. Thank you for that. Look it up yourself. Anyway, but it'll be uh you can see it right now on the graphic right there. Um it's Smith Street. Then then you hit Johnston Street and then back down Brunswick Street. Yeah. And then back across Gertie Street. That is the triangle of sadness. I'm I know it's not a triangle, but I'm trying to make a reference to the uh film from Have you seen that film? That's a fantastic film. I kind of want to see Triangle. You want to see it? I haven't got around to it yet. It's very good. To me, it's a beautiful movie of like boiling the frog. I've heard it's like it's almost like the triangle is a character in the film. They they reference it at the start of the movie, isn't it? Like this has hit this part. Yeah, I know that much. It's like it's the there was a meeting. Yeah, but they're not going on about it. I know. But there was the triangle doesn't form a central part of the film. No, they reference it at the start and you're like that's the name of the movie. Why is the triangle sad? It's where you store your sadness on your face here, right? And the guy, the main character, he's got a triang. He's got that, doesn't he? Yeah. But yeah, it's about turning that triangle into a tra trapezoid. Trapezoid. Turn that triangle upside down. What's the opposite of a triangle? Do shapes have opposites? An opposite of a triangle is a triangle because it's upside down. I would say because it's a inverted. I would have said the opposite of a circle is a square. That's good. You should be a life coach. Yeah, cuz you are good at Wouldn't the opposite of a circle be a square? I think the opposite of a circle would be an inside out circle with the outside. I'm just flipping it. So I'm like the inside is the outside, the outside is the inside. And I are very different people. We are we did you know we all we are like if we were the same person we Anyway, triangle sadness. Actually the lady from that died. Did you know that? No. I did a little Wikipedia stayed away from the plot but I did a little you know around the edges and yeah she's she's gone. She's gone. So there you go. Uh cool. Joel will be editing this one today and he'll put up an article that references. Yeah. References whatever he's talking about. There'll be a graphic of the uh poster of Triangle Sadness um later. We will get that. Yeah. Thanks Joel. Thanks for editing this. And uh uh I wouldn't even know what you're just so good at it. It's like uh it's like you know I'm very quick. I'm very good at it. You're too good at it. Yeah. That's why if you sort of drag your feet a little bit, it'll be like, "All right, I'll do it." That's why you see here recorder recorder recorder. I'm actually recording three audios. This is That's just a That's just aw sticker with penises. Yeah, it's the peny the peny sticker. Yeah. Don't Why a Why are the penises? I record my audio separate, your audio separate, and also it all together. God. And then I pretty much sync it up all together. Penis is facing me. Yeah. Do you have to bleep out penis? No. Okay, good. Well, you would have to if I want Can I do Can we I'll save you a bit of time. If I'm going to say a [ __ ] up Can I do that? Like if I'm going to say that. If I'm going to say a up word, I can just do it myself. Okay. So, we can talk about the thing I wanted to talk about. Yeah. Yeah, we can. Okay. So, I have this idea. No. Um, don't ask how it came up. I'm I'm going to bleep myself. Are you going to bleep yourself? I just said I'm going to bleep myself. Don't worry. Selfcensorship. Um, I'm embracing that tonight. But basically, I uh I came up with this idea for a uh LGBTQIA plus uh show at next year's festival. And And you get uh you get seven. Oh my god. You get seven of them and on a showcase. And we're going to call it the Nific 7. Yeah. Not bad, right? It's Go on. It's one of those things that either like I I can imagine someone listening to this and being like, I'm taking that name. Oh, I mean, hey, that's best of both worlds. If someone listens to that and takes that name, holy [ __ ] I'm stoked for that. You just got to put you on. No, no, no, no, no. Not at all. No, no, no. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't I wouldn't I'm not that um I'm not I'm benevolent. No, I'm benevolent. Ben Eveent. That's my stage name now. Speaking of Ben Eve. Really? That's the end of Magnificent 7. We're not going to talk about Magnificent 7 anymore. I don't really have anything to say. It's a play on Magnificent 7, the film. Shiron will put the poster of Magnificent 7. Joel's editing this one, so he's going to put it up. And uh yeah, but you take the M and replace it with an F and you've got Magnificent 7. That's the name of the show that I'm going to produce. But I can only think of two Oh, yeah. Producing it. who' be cool. Yeah. They'd be like, "Yeah, that's funny." But everyone else I know who is that. Yeah. The key part is to find really cool people who are part of it. Yeah. You look so sad about this. Your triangle of sadness is really uh um emotionally exhausted. Is the triangle an isosles triangle? Is that a big reveal at the end of the film? Don't tell me if that's the reveal. No, it's not a dramatic reveal about he's on his deathbed at the end. He's like, "It's an isosles." And they're like, "Oh, no. It's a brilliant movie that just slowly ramps up over time that when the there's certain highlights of the movie that happen that are like it's one of those movies I wish I could see for the first time again. Okay, David Stratton. Okay, you say that but you can't say what 7. Oh dear, we're I'm smiling too much in this episode. Be serious. Get Yeah, I'm the sad one today. Aren't you meant to be life coaching me? Yeah. Well, that was the idea. So, last week, last episode, whenever that was 5 years ago, you life coached me and you were pretty good at it. I I I hammed it up a little bit for you guys, but um and there'll be there's a highlights package playing now right there at the bottom of your screen. You'll you'll Is that called pipping? I don't know, but it's not happening. You you embed it or something. I don't know. Um we have a cool fun raw vibe here. Well, you can put a link down there. I'm sure you could do that. How hard is that, dude? They can click on the previous episode. No, they'll be it's in a playlist. It's if they're listening to the audio, there's an audio. They can literally just listen to the next. I remembered your girlfriend's name. No, I just I'm just more It's easy to find the last episode. I'm not adding a link. Just this this is telling. See, the life coaching has actually already begun. See, this is this is my technique. Life coaching began at the start. The minute you walked into this is like that episode of uh the first, you know, there's a a reality show with uh Richard Branson. Uh it was like his version of uh the apprentice. Oh and he he picked up the contestants from the airport and he was the chauffeur and they didn't know it was him and he the first test was how they acted around him in the back of the limousine. Were they humble to the chauffeer? Were they arrogant to the chauffeur? And that was the first challenge. So you didn't you failed the first test. You walked in here thinking, "Oh, when's Joel when's the life coaching going to start?" And I'm just there like going, "It began 10 minutes ago, baby." Well, how do you not know that this still is the coach from last week? Yeah.

Uh, you're good. Yeah. Didn't know you were an improv comic. Uh, whoa. Uh, we we call it riffing. Um, anyway, point is is actually after I ever do any session with anyone for a while after I become acutely aware of. How do you know that? How do you know that my life coaching session for that was meant to be this episode didn't start? the last episode and you live life coaching me was part of my life coaching you. I was a little You know how I know because you said loaf coaching, right? That's the That's the giveaway. But uh that Yeah. But look, just edit that to make it look like I came up with that comeback immediately. Precisely. Yeah. The fact that you're getting very angry about editing, is that because you're afraid of change? Sounds like like you don't want to edit anything. It's just like, you know, you want to No, I just do a lot already. All right. Do you know what I mean? I do a lot for you. I do a lot for this place. I do a lot for myself. All right. I'm hearing a lot. A lot of self-loathing. Yeah. Okay. So, was I meant to coach you how to coach in this? So, that's going to be the twist. So, whenever I try coaching you, you come back and coach me. You coach my life coach. You're my life coach. Coach, I got to be honest. We've been doing this for what, like 13, 15 minutes now. The twist should have happened already. Isn't this the twist? Yeah. Oh, the twist. Oh. Oh, that wasn't going to be a twist. That was just going to be like, you know, here's how you life coach. So, what we did was I'm going to take this what you're saying now. This is how we're doing it. You're going to life coach me and I'm going to What usually what would happen is you life coach me. Don't look at me like that. You I'm attentive. I'm I'm using my eyes cuz I'm a pen and paper. You just talk. So, you life coach me. Normally, I'd be like, "All right, I'm ready." And I go life coach someone else. But no, the irony is that I come back and life coach you straight away. Yeah. you in. Yeah. Okay. So, the kind of style that we did last time was pretty much just inquisitive thinking. So, or inquisitive chat. I will just call it that for now. We're not going to tell. So, yeah. So, that's how does that make you feel? No, not that. But you were So, you do tell me more is good. So, what you're looking for is people's underlying emotional states and then you can ask more about that. People are gay. Yeah. Why are you gay? you are gay. Tell me why you are gay. That reference to that meme from 3 years ago. It's not He's He's around now. He's making videos now. To be fair, it does pop up every It does rear its head. It's It's It's uh That meme stands the test of time. Well, I think he didn't get a new joke. He just discovered that asking people why they were gay. Oh, so he still does that over He still does that. He has a podcast. Yeah. That's like Shark Nato 2. Yeah. And Shark Nato 3. No. No. Well, Shark Nato one, it's like actually you tried and you failed. Shark Nato 2. Now you're It's like when Homer became an artist. Remember that? No. Remember he smashed up the barbecue and they said and then um they said this is art and he just tried to smash things again and it just was like it's just the same thing again. Yeah. It's like that chuck. So the the version of so my my my style of coaching that I actually like which is what I didn't do in this in the thing with you is actually deep meditation with people which isn't necessarily very entertaining for an audience. Uh, it's not zippy zappy like last last episode was very zippy zappy. Last episode was very zippy zappy. See, he's agreeing with me. No, this is called reflecting. Oh, reflecting. Remember that. I'm reflecting what you're saying. Yeah. So, that's a big that's a key of life coaching. Yeah. So, let's What What What do you want to coach me on? Let's just deal with that. Life. That's the whole That's what it is. Whatever it says on the can, I'm help. Yeah. But I came into the last time being like, I'm helping you with your anger issues. Yeah. So, now what are you you come you going to come in here and be like, tell me what you want. No, that's okay. I'm help. You got to be strong. You got to hold the frame. That's the thing. I'm Darian. I diagnose you or prognose. Whatever you you knows me. I knows you with toxic optimism. That's your No. See, denial. First step. First step is denial. Second step is um you're dealing with someone who's very well-developed. I'm a I have a very strong mind. Sometimes the jokes write themselves, folks. Okay. Uh, well, you can put in a boom there, right? No, you're editing this. Just imagine. Put a little do a little Get the Triple J logo. I can give you a I can give you something to coach me on. Okay. I struggle. I still struggle with my name. Should I have a stage name? Should I not have a stage name? I thought it was a stage name. Sham Narian. Well, technically it's my birth name, but also a stage name. But I struggle with that and I have a million options. Yeah. Okay. Tell me more. Okay. Well, I've basically had a lot of I guess it stems from uh being a Zerastrian be having I don't know being feeling like an outsider constantly. Uh and I'm trying to but you keep telling me to tell you more. Oh, I'm sorry for being supportive in your struggle. No, you keep like tell me more. Okay. No, tell me more. Yeah. No, no, you tell me more. Tell me less. You're interrupting me telling you. You got to time you got to time the tell me more parts. Okay. When I finished a sentence. This why in psychiatrist rooms they the person sits like that with the back turn so they can't they don't like get interrupted by any like oh no sorry intense eye contact. Yeah the eye contact they're like oh no sorry I was just thinking about I didn't mean to that you know like how I don't make eye contact with the audience when I perform now cuz I just don't want to look in them in the eye. Yeah. Where do you look? Maybe I should be life coached more this episode. No, I'm not doing anymore. Was that that draining? No, I just I have my boundaries. Just say I need to explore my uh bisexuality and then that would cash take the money and run. That's surely that's most life coaching. Just like you'll probably buy explore that and you just take the money. What was it again? Like $500 an hour or some [ __ ] Yeah, something like that. That's one of the Yeah. So, um Yeah. So, sheated. Why do you think that is? Uh I uh it's it's not serotonin fatigue. It's sort of like I had a really good yesterday and often when I have a really good maybe it is serotonin fatigue like a serotonin hangover. Like I had a really good like yesterday and today I'm just exhausted. That's it. That's what it comes down to. It's nothing more exciting. See, maybe see the thing that annoys me about you is you're the kind of guy who says I had a really good yesterday instead of just saying I had a really good day yesterday. Yeah. Well, the entire day wasn't great. Yeah. But if you look at it as a whole and uh Yeah, it was. And your beanie still doesn't cover your ears. Oh, yeah. True. I was wondering. I was meant to look at the last episode and make sure I wasn't wearing the same outfit. Very triggering. Anyway, for you. Why does that trigger you? So, uh, why does that why do you feel the need to ask me whether it why it triggers me? Why? Because I thought it would be funny if I interrupted your Why do my triggers trigger you? Yeah, because I'm triggered. I just am. What's up, my trigger? Here's a here's the thing about life coaching is that there are some things that people have just decided and you need to respect their boundaries. There's a difference between something that is a subconscious block and someone being like I I use the metaphor of a lamp. Balloon. No, a lamp. Lamp is better than the balloon for this. Well, interior design, someone can be like, I put a lamp here. And if you go, why do I put why did you put the lamp there? Why did you feel like you needed to put the lamp there? And the answer is I just wanted to. Why do you even need a lamp? Well, light. Your eyes will adjust. Okay. Yeah. Live in the dark. I don't know. You heard it here first. I mean, let the sun Joel says live in the dark. The sun sets. That's like the nature telling you to go to sleep. So, do you have lights in your house? Yeah, but I shut up. But I I Well, yeah, I'm a hypocrite. I do. But what when the sun goes down, I switch all the lights off and put on lamps very dim. Yeah, but why did you put those lamps there? Because you chose to put them there. Good. You're good. He's good. He's good. See, there's two things I did there. One is I'm demonstrating something which is people will choose to do a thing consciously and if you keep questioning that you're actually questioning boundaries and the second thing was instead of telling you I asked you so why did you put the lamps there I asked you rather than going well you're a dumbass you just put lamps a metaphor so ask questions to illustrate points um ask me a question about my issue with my name your name I was I'm glad we got back to that because um you obfiscating a little bit there. You were you were gilding the lily. You were dancing around the issue which is another flaw in in who I am as opposed to we'll do that next episode. But basically uh I think uh why do you why what's so hard about Sharam Namdarian? I think it's too long to Yeah, there we go. That is what's wrong. What's the problem with him? Is that what's the problem with that? Yeah. What's the problem with

What's the problem with your Wi-Fi password of the day? Exactly. I was waiting for that. That's always Give it up for Sharon. Coincidentally, Sharon is my warfare password. That's Joel. That's my impression of Joel. Anyway, he's my other impression of Joel. The What's wrong with the audience? Where did you get them from? Oh, I don't know. Um, why do you think the audience is so perfect? Cuz they don't know better. M well you know well maybe they do know better but they're they are who they are. Yeah we're the ones working. So in this metaphor the audience is like your name and I don't know where that was going. Anyway the name. Yeah. So it's complicated. We just illustrated that. Well are you serious face? Are you thinking what would your stage name be? Shane Thompson. No. I've had a lot of names through my life. Shane has never Hi. I'm Shane Thompson. Sh. I'm Shane. It's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Idiots. I had Shaz. Shaz was one. Would you just Is it just the first name that's bothering you? Uh, well, when I went by Shaz, I literally just introduced Shaz. They're expecting like a 60-year-old woman. Shaz Sharon. No, people were fine with it. They're expecting like Bev Kllik or something like that. That's That's a That's not a disc. That's actually They're expecting like an sort of 50-year-old Shaz Sharon. Shaz. That's a You know, they're expecting sort of a That's what I'd expect if someone Shaz is coming down. Well, here's the thing I learned. When you go to America and you call yourself Shaz, people like shezz like she like c h e zed and I'm like that's that clearly shezz isn't even a thing too. Yeah. Do you do you think I don't know who's it's Mark Oshka is here. Oh sick guest appearance. We got a guest appearance from Mark Oshka. Don't draw don't knock over the tripod. Yeah. Hey Mark, welcome to the best friendmies. I live and [ __ ] my pants. Just [ __ ] say here to the microphone. As I live and [ __ ] my pants but to the thing. As I live and [ __ ] my Well, you're our second guest. You've got to be on the like. Am I in the thing? No. Get up on stage. Get out. This is awesome. All right. Well, I don't now have a microphone. Well, you can take mine and we can just with Mark. Well, we can Okay, we can put it there. Oh, wait. Here. Swap. You have That's the better one. You can edit this out, right, Char? No. Shaz. Joel's editing. Ah, he So, in this episode, I don't I can't guarantee you're in the thing. So, Joel, move in the middle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look. So, in this episode, Joel was meant to be life coaching me. This is the best friend. Move over. Get close, baby. Um, so B, I feel like we solved that. We can continue to life coaching. Well, I No, you we got a We got a Oh, we got a guest life coach here. Okay. Well, you got there, brother. Let me give you a few trivia. Trivia. Give Give us the trivia on the bottle. Well, we got a classic drop. Arguably Melbourne's favorite beer. Would you say it's a BB? Oh, that's a big call. But I think that this one is the one that everyone drinks most. It's a carton draft. It's your standard Aussie uh Melbourne laga and I think it's the most uh important beverage that we've produced here. I have the urge I think we need a sponsorship. I have the urge to interview Mark like it's a post game. Like, Mark, uh, you got halfway through the cotton draft, but you decided to stop before you got to I'm surprised they stopped putting alcohol uh advertisements around the the edge of the football field. Oh, did they stop that? I don't watch football as well. Okay. What do they like football was better when smoking and drinking was part of the game? Do they not? Well, I don't know. What are they promoting now? Kicks now, aren't they? Oh, we got Channel 9 News. Come to nine. Like, is that literally What else are they promoting? When Benny Cousins was on the sh that was the people that's when I start watching when they said no more Benny Cousins, no more mess. I was like well that's the end of my I mean he is the greatest footballer ever cuz he was awesome on [ __ ] and he was on ice all the time and and uh football on ice. It's it should be uh introduced like that. Everyone should be on ice. You were telling me off fair that you think Isaac Ranken is innocent. Can you elaborate? I don't know who that is, but he's the guy who said he said what? I'm I'm censoring. He's doing a call back to a previous thing where he censored it. Just don't say the word, but you can block it out. No, I'm not editing this. The first half hour is dedicated to the fact that Shaham has no intention to edit a single part of this podcast. I don't need to say because you guys already know. You already discussed it. Yeah. And I think everyone has We are disgusted by it. We are disgusted by it, aren't we? Anyway, we're on Smith Street. I'm just trying to play to the crowd. I went to my friend's house the other day and I rarely go around there cuz he's like an old friend so you don't need to see him all the time because he's going to die soon. You go there. No, not that. He's my oldest friend in the He's my oldest ch we've been chums longer than I've been chums with anybody else. Okay. And he was discussing this uh issue and uh he watches uh pay TV. You know TV? Yeah. That you pay for cable? Not K. Not like Netflix. uh TV like olden days. Oh, terrestrial TV with ads like with the ads and landline. So that's not paid TV. That's just more what is it? Free air. Yeah. Free to air is what they call it. Like the public. Yeah. Old school. You call free to wear TV pay TV. Well, this is the thing. I don't know what I'm saying. So you call a freeway, a highway, and a highway freeway. One of them has a toll, but it's not. They watch bloody uh they watch champang those guys on the front bar. The front bar. And we were sitting there going, "When are they going to mention the and they didn't talk about it at all." I was like, you know why? Because they were like, I don't know how to do this. They were like, shall I say what I really think or should I do the TV thing or there's there's three minds about that. But then they had this character on that Lawrence Mooney was playing Adelaide fan, right? I thought they could have addressed it with that guy. Yeah. They could have been like, "What do you think?" And he could have been like, "Call anyone a [ __ ] whatever the [ __ ] you want. He's bloody. You know, you think if it was truly dedicated to the role of a Port Adelaide fan, that would just be the second word. Every second word would be that word surely. I think like that would have been the best way. That way they could have said and discussed anything they want in this character. They could have said their peace. Never forget. Do they play a character or are they, you know what I mean? I don't really watch the footy panel show. Yeah. So, but are they a caricature of themselves or are they like trying to be authentic? No. No. There's three of them who are doing the whole Yeah. You know what? as Mick Mallaloy and for um Sam Pang and uh and Jack Andy Mah Mick Mallaloy. I said Mick Malloy. Yeah, Mick Mallaloy. And um No, they're genuine. They're like, you know, the whole footy sports panel. They're like, "Oh, and uh this week we saw uh Did you see this uh Mick?" Oh, yeah. The the footy show. Remember the footy show with less blackface perhaps? I think slightly less. Unfortunately, a lot less black face. Yeah, it rises me up the wall, too. Hey, um racist. Really? No people with black faces on. Not good. I didn't hear that. But I love the I love the energy. So, but you know what I mean though? This character that Mooney play, if you want to get if you want to be like, I'm not allowed to show discussing and have my opinion, you should have got this guy, this character that Mooney was playing to voice your opinions for you, the guy. See my set tonight. My set tonight at Dirty S. It's going to pretty much hit upon this. Um my sit back and I'll be like with baited uh baited breath. Baited breath. Master baited breath. Well, we're going to wrap up this show, Mark. So, you we got you got to finish life coaching me. You know, you're the guest life coach. You might be off mic for a little bit. That's all right. But if he talks, bring him in. What name? St. We're talking about stage names. Coach me through it. But he's just now you just Shazam. Shazam. Yeah. Shazam. Shazam. Back to the show. All right. Are we ever going to do this again? Uh, we could. Um, I thought this was fun. Yeah, it was fun. I don't know if we resolved anything. No, that's that's so it's a cliffhanger for next episode where we I think uh I I'll you should be Shaz. You should be Ace Victoria. If not that, you should be Shaz Nam. Okay. Shazam. Shaz Maz. Or just Shaz. Shaz just do himself. Just be Shaz. Be like Sher. Be like just Shaz or Shazam. But then Shazam. That's There's a movie, isn't there, with uh Yeah. You got to think about copyright. You got to think about copyright. No, it's Shaquille O'Neal. Thank you. Uh, are we wrapping this up? Do you want You sound like you wanted to. Why is that you want to wrap this up? I don't know. Cuz you kept mentioning we're wrapping it up. I thought we were. I was trying toate. Well, if we are very pushy. Why is that? Hey, because I'm tired. Okay. Hey, are we Joel? Are we best friendmies? Are we friends yet? Or are we We are absolutely never not never was never will be. Woman jacker. Okay. Um, thanks Mark Oska for just swinging by for a cameo. Let's do the um intro. You know, when we're going in this episode, you want to be in it. Mark's going to be in it. Yeah. So, this will be edited and put at the start of the thing. All right. You with us? I want to put Oh, no. No, you better. I won't touch the equipment. Welcome to this episode of Best Friendmies. In this episode, uh, I life coach Sharam only after he coaches me on how to life coach. And, uh, then Mark Oshia is here too. And I am bit of a voyerist. Yeah. Psychological counseling sessions. Yeah, it's it's [ __ ] up this episode. Um I hope you like it. Yeah. Cool. Done. Cool.