Today we have a fun episode of “Build Relationships. Break Poverty.” This conversation is with JoE, who has spent at least 20 years emotionally supporting youth across various cultures, equipping adults to walk through grief counseling with vulnerable children, and delivering grief counseling training for HopeChest staff in Uganda and Eswatini. In today’s conversation we talk about some interesting topics, including how his name is not JoE, his favorite rugby team, and how he relates with the people he emotionally supports through having processed his own painful experiences.