Talks That Convert

How To Build Multi-Million Dollar Marketing Agency (The Backend Truth)

Oliver Kenyon & Chris Watson

Discover how ConversionWise co-founder Andy Haskins transformed his biggest weakness into his superpower and built a leading CRO agency over 12 years. 

From his early days in lead generation to scaling a major Shopify optimisation agency, Andy shares the real, unfiltered journey of agency growth.


Key Insights: The "10,000 Foot View" Framework

  • How to zoom out from daily problems
  • Making decisions like Jeff Bezos: type 1 vs. type 2 decisions
  • Converting overthinking into strategic advantage

 Scaling & Operations Deep-Dive

  • Why you need to act before having perfect data
  • The "100 reps" principle for finding your ideal client
  • How to forecast growth without overcomplicating
  • Avoiding the "shiny object syndrome" that kills most agencies

 Team Building Secrets

  • Why "scrappy" can be better than perfect
  • The culture-first hiring approach that actually works
  • Creating systems without suffocating creativity
  • Building foundations for new hires without restricting growth

 Advanced Agency Strategies

  • Finding the right metrics that actually matter
  • Balancing fast thinking vs. deep analysis
  • Converting Academy students into high-value clients
  • Maintaining strong margins while scaling

Featuring work with brands like Space Goods, Ali Abdaal, The Essence Vault, and My Sweet Smile.

To follow Andy's journey, go to:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-haskins/

To keep learning about CRO tips and stay up to date with the latest trends, go to:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliverkenyon/
Twitter: https://x.com/oliverkenyon
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ConversionWise

To follow your podcast host and connect, go to: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriswatsoncro/