66: Your Bowel Disease is Probably Caused By Mold - Here's what you need to know

I've seen over 500 cases of Crohn's and Colitis in my practice, and I've seen mold at the root of nearly 400 of them - that's 80%! Mold is a growing problem and it's in up to 70% of US homes, which means there's a really good chance mold is causing your bowel disease.

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• What is mold and why you need to care
•  How to test for mold in your home and your body
• How to get rid of mold safely 
• The 5 steps to detoxing mold from your body
  
  

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One of the biggest drivers of your gut issues is going to be mold. It's been known to cause things like Crohn's, colitis, IBS, diverticulitis, and everything in between. But do you know if it's a problem for you and how would you know? Well, that's what we're doing here today. I'm going to show you what mold is and what it does to you, how to test yourself and your home for mold. We're going to talk about how to remove it safely, all the steps required to do that, so you really understand what's going on. But before anything, I must put a big disclaimer. Mold should not be a DIY project. Start with the basics, start with the environment, DIY, but when it comes to removing it, it can be very risky, very touch and go, and it can make yourself extraordinarily sick. So please do not address mold in your system without seeing a specialist first, especially if you have a diagnosed condition like Crohn's, colitis, IBS, diverticulitis. Contrary to what your doctors told you, Crohn's and colitis are reversible. Now, I've helped hundreds of people reverse their bowel disease and I'm here to help you do it too, because inflammation always has a root cause. We just have to find it. This is the Reversing Crohn's and Colitis Naturally podcast. Now, I do these live trainings in my Facebook group every single week and put the audios here for you to listen to. If you want to watch the video versions of these episodes, just click the link in the show notes to get access to our Facebook group and YouTube channel. And for weekly updates, information, tips and tricks, you can sign up for our email list by clicking the link in the show notes below. So, first thing is what on earth is mold? What is it? Mold is a fungus. And there's lots of different kinds of fungus. And we know fungus grows on trees. We know mushrooms are a fungus. Mold is a fungus. In fact, there are roughly 3.8 million different types of fungus known to mycologists worldwide. That's what's suspected. 2.2 to 3.8 is what's guessed. And there are 100 to 250,000 different types of mold that we know of. Now, it feels really overwhelming. 250,000 types of mold is a lot to worry about. But here's the thing. You don't need to worry about those right now. All you need to worry about is 36 different strains of mold. That's what we're going to distill it down to for you. 36. Really easy to do. Not bad from 3.8 million, right? So, 36 strains of mold. The reason we do this, these are the most common that we see per the EPA, which recommended to be tested for when you're testing somebody. Now, 26 of these strains of mold are going to be coming from things like indoor water damage, etc. Another 10 are going to be coming from things like food and other common sources. So, we definitely want to check for these 36. So, first thing is, how does mold grow? Pretty straightforward. I'm sure you've seen mold at some point. You left food in the fridge for too long. Mold grows. It almost grows from nothing, right? It was empty. There was no mold on food. Where did it come from? Mold spores are everywhere, right? Mold is not a bad, evil thing. It's like parasites. They're everywhere. They're in our bodies. They live with us. There's mold in the soil, mold in your body. They're everywhere. It's the balance of things that makes them okay, but it's the imbalance and excess of things that makes them not okay. So, mold by itself, there are spores floating around the air everywhere. Too much mold is a problem, and mold is going to thrive in environments and overgrow under moisture, humidity, stagnant air, and it always needs food, an organic substance. That's why it grows on wood. It grows on an apple. It can grow in drywall, skin, dust, fabric, anywhere there's an organic material, something it can consume. That's how mold spreads and why it breaks things down. You know, if you take a board of wood and it's all moldy and it falls apart, it's not just because it's wet, but it's because mold has physically eaten those structures that hold that piece of wood together and make it wood, and it just falls apart and breaks in half. So, mold can be found anywhere, and I want to be very careful when we're talking about mold. We often think it's one thing, or it's one strain, or it's in one place, or if I can't see the mold, it's not a problem, and that is the biggest mistake you can be making. Mold can be found in all kinds of stuff. You can find it in your home. You can find it in your school. You can find it in your workplace. You can find it in your car, if you've got a sunroof especially. You can find mold in all kinds of strange places, but just because you cannot see it doesn't mean you don't have mold. In fact, here's a stat that sucks. 70% of U.S. homes are said to have an ongoing active mold problem. So, mold is rampant. The thing about mold is it's very, very small. Mold toxins can be one one-hundredth of the thickness of a strain of hair, and so that means that they are so small, if they're behind the drywall or in the studs, mold can actually push through paint. It can push through drywall. These toxins float around and fight each other and compete for space. If you have a crack in your bathroom cabinet, a little crack, and there's mold underneath the sink, you walking past those closed doors stirs up enough air to move toxins around. So, mold toxins are a big issue. They're extremely volatile. They're bloody everywhere. It's in 70% of U.S. homes, and it's connected to damn near every disease. But for our purposes, we're talking about Crohn's, colitis, IBS, and diverticulitis. So, this is where mold comes from, where it grows. Spores are everywhere. They're just waiting for an opportunity to take over. So, the next natural question is, why do we care? Why is mold even a problem for you? Do you need to worry about it? Here's what I can tell you. Having done nearly 500 cases, we had a 500th client today actually sign up, oddly enough, through the program who's gone through this. Eighty percent of the clients I've seen out of 500, that's 400 out of 500 people, have had an active mold issue or a past mold exposure that led to the illness they're experiencing today. That's Crohn's, colitis, IBS, diverticulitis. Quite substantial. And so, mold does a lot of damage. So, you might be familiar with a big fancy word called mitochondria, known as the powerhouse of the cell. There's all kinds of stuff for you. It produces a really important energy we call ATP. Yay, high school biology. But here's the thing. Mold disrupts what's called these electron transport chains. It really affects the way your body, your cells, the thousands of the trillions of cells and the thousands of mitochondria per cell. It disrupts their ability to make energy. And so, you can lead to this energy issue. You can have all kinds of things, muscle fatigue, brain fog, weakness, poor detoxification, because on a cellular level, it's also important for detoxification. You might find yourself with a lot of oxidative stress. You hear about taking antioxidants. It's because of oxidative stress from things like mold or other stressors. These cause problems. It causes a cellular exhaustion. And it forces your body into this energy crisis where it's depleted, you're physically tired, you can't detox properly. And that's just one layer of issues. There's dozens of them. The first, it's energy and toxic buildup. That's what's happening on a cellular level. Next to that, mold actually damages your gut lining. Damages the gut lining. So, you know, we talk about leaky gut. Leaky gut is an opening in the lining of the gut. The cells spread apart. And some people say leaky gut doesn't exist. It's called intestinal permeability. It's semantics. It's real. So, the cells spread apart and things, your body does this to intentionally draw water in to try to flush out the toxins stuck inside your bowel. But what ends up happening, a long sustained leaky gut becomes bidirectional. Toxins leak in to try to flush stuff out, but toxins leak from your gut into your blood and circulate around making you very sick. It also damages your microbiome. Did you know that mold is antibacterial? In fact, that's how they discovered penicillin was through a penicillin mold back in the early 1900s. They found it in a Petri dish and went, wow, it killed everything. Antibiotics come from mold. Fun fact, so does citric acid, but that's another thing. But anyway, it damages your gut lining. It's antibacterial. So, it actually damages all the good guys in your gut bacteria. It disrupts the gut lining making it harder for good guys to live in there. It also creates inflammation. The combination of this breeds a lot of bad guys. It breeds infections. It promotes leaky gut. It breeds candida. It breeds clostridia. And mold can also feed other pathogens, other bad guys in your system, and it creates like a biofilm. It's this thick layer that holds a bunch of toxins and it protects all the bad guys underneath of it. And all these bacteria can swim on this like a slip and slide to go and reproduce and spread around your bowels otherwise, creating like pancolitis or other inflammatory problems. So, mold damages your mitochondria. It damages the cells, damages detox abilities. It damages your gut lining, damages your microbiome. And guess what else it damages? Because there's more. Your immune system. Mold damages your immune system. It actually inhibits types of white blood cells. Your body's unable to clear infections, which means a lot of bad guys can come in. And it also over activates two specific paths of your immune system. We call these number two. TH stands for T helper, and it's 2 and 17. Now, this pathway, number two, is your histamine pathway. So, if you experience rashes, hives, runny nose, allergies, seasonal allergies, these types of things, these are a histamine pathway. A lot of phlegm, histamine pathway, bloating, palpitations, brain fog. These are histamines in different areas of your body. That's this pathway. Mold drives it up. So, if you're experiencing worsening symptoms, that's the mold causing the problem. When we get to number 17, as your immune system overclocks in bowel disease, this is where we see changes in your bowel like ulcers, strictures, fistulas, inflammation, bleeding, mucus, etc. And mold pushes your immune system over the edge. Think about it. Bowel disease, Crohn's, colitis, diverticulitis, these are not an autoimmune condition. They are a hyperreaction of your immune system. It's called immune-mediated responses. Even the Crohn's, colitis foundation, the Mayo Clinic have downgraded from autoimmune to immune-mediated. That means your immune system is hyperreactive, creating responses. Mold creates a hyperactive immune response, creating all these issues. Combined with the damage to your gut lining, your microbiome, you've got a perfect storm for bowel disease. Now, it does a few more other things. Mold can damage and create neuroinflammation as well, leading to anxiety, depression, brain fog, memory loss, sensory overload. So, lights and sounds bother you, headaches all the time. But between the suppressed immune system, your gut being inflamed where most of your immune responses, immune cells come from, guess what starts to happen? Chronic inflammation, hyperactive immune responses. You have poor defenses so viruses, parasites can thrive. It actually leads to co-infections like those parasites, even Lyme bacteria or Lyme disease-related microbes like Borrelia, Bartonella, Babesia, Candida, Clostridia, Epstein-Barr virus. They love a moldy environment. And so you wonder, you look at this, you have an inflamed gut lining. One of the three pillars of autoimmune disease is a leaky gut. So, you have an inflamed gut lining, we have a disrupted microbiome, the thing you need to keep your gut and your body and your immune system healthy, disrupted. Your immune system, overreactive. Your nervous system, highly inflamed. And now your immune system can't keep up bad guys, so now you're fully infected with parasites and fungus and viruses and all kinds of stuff, lions and tigers and bears, oh my. And you wonder why you're sick and wonder why you have bowel disease. Mold. Now, if 70% of US homes have mold and mold is the bowel disease capital of the world, what do we think is causing a lot of the bowel disease? I'm not saying it's always mold, but it's largely mold and that's what we have to consider. So, I want to talk to you next about how we're going to test for mold. Because like I said, of the 500 people I've seen in my practice just for bowel disease in the last probably three years alone, of that 500, probably 400 of them had a mold infection early on that disrupted their gut and infections that's led to bowel disease, or it was the mold that inflamed the gut and led to bowel disease in the first place. So, how do we test for it? There's a couple of ways and a couple of things we want to test for mold. First, you want to test your home or your environment. Second, you're going to want to test self. Do you have mold toxicity in your body and do you have mold inoculating you from your environment? So, talk about your environment. We can test your home, your work, anywhere you spend time, bathrooms, living room, kitchen, wherever it's going to be, even things like your dishwasher. The amount of people I've seen who don't clean their dishwasher and have a little bit of mold fungus growing, like pinky stuff, it happens and that can get into your gut. There was just a guy I was reading on Reddit a couple of weeks back who cleaned his dishwasher, guts went away because his dishwasher was moldy. He didn't know. It was years. He just had IBS, but it was mold. And so, we have to test your environment. Now, in order to do that, there's a few ways you can test for mold. First, you can literally just go to Amazon and type in Home Mold Test Kit. It comes up with these little petri dishes and a couple of ways you can use them. You can open air, leave them for two hours, close them up, stick them in a dark cabinet, see if it cultures. Take two to four photos at day two and day four to see what kind of spores. And some of the sellers on Amazon, you can even just send them a picture of your mold plates. They'll tell you what kind of mold you have, what kind of spores they produce, what kind of toxins you're If those come up positive. So, let's put that first one here. For home, we're just gonna say we're gonna go to Amazon. Very cheap. It's like 25, 35 bucks. Very low barrier to entry. Everyone should be testing your home. Not everyone should be testing your home. Everyone should test their home and you should test yours. Don't invite everybody into your home to test it. That'll get expensive. So, Amazon, petri dishes. Test your home. Very easy. 25 to 35 bucks. Bang, bang, boom. You have a good idea. Now, if you don't open air test, what you can also do is swab dust. So, every 12 inches in your bedroom or your bathroom, wherever, swab it and rub it in the petri dish. And if there are enough toxins, that will culture. And then, if it comes up positive, like, damn, I got a lot of mold, then you can go through and either do something like an ERMI, E-R-M-I, or you can go to thedusttest.com. I really like the dust test. It's a great test. And again, you swiffer dust. You send it into the lab. They culture and tell you here's how much you have, 10, 100, or 1,000 fold times higher than what's normal and healthy. Here's the risk factors. Here's the toxins they produce and how concerned you should be. And then, if you say, wow, I got all this mold. I don't know where it's coming from. Still can't see it. You can actually hire, believe it or not, a mold dog. That mold dog will come in and sniff to find the scent, these MVOCs, these mold volatile organic compounds. And it will smell these compounds and say, here's where the mold is. Now, remember I said you can't always see mold, right? I had a client of mine who was in Northern California, started together about two years ago for a five-year-old diagnosed with severe colitis. We went back and we found a ton of mold. They did ERMI testing in the works. They actually brought a mold dog in 50 some odd places that were tested positive for mold. And guess what? Brand new home was built like 2021. No reason it should have mold, but it was into the studs because the wood was moldy. And builders will do that. They'll use moldy wood or poorly treated wood. And then it just gets rained on as it's in construction. And then the organic compounds get wet breeding mold. And they're trapped between plastic and you wonder why you're sick. So this whole family was ill. And one of the kids had bowel disease because the mold in the home is a brand new home. So age means nothing. So you want to test. You can go to Amazon plates. If it indicates mold, like, damn, let's see if we go a little bit deeper. That's 25 bucks. This is about $275. And then the mold dog can cost you anywhere from nine to probably 1,500. Depends on the square footage in your home. But it'll tell you exactly where the mold is coming from. And that's how we begin the testing process for environments. The next one that we can do, and I'm going to back this up. I don't like air testing. Go back to the ReversABLE podcast with Michael Rubino, episode 153. And we actually talk about why we don't do air testing and stuff that sucks. So let's talk about testing self. A couple of ways you can do that. You can do what's called an organic acid test or an OAT. You can do a mycotoxin urine. Both of these are urine. It'll check for mold toxins and byproducts in your system. You can also, there are different types of hair tests which can do that. There's also something called a visual contrast test or VCS test. And that one will actually, again, identify for biotoxin illness. It's visual contrast. So there's a couple of ways you can test self. Now, going through the mycotoxin, the urine panel, it's a good indicator, but some people don't release a lot of toxins, so you might get a false negative. If you're looking at an organic acid, we can see on a cellular level, we talked about mitochondria, the cells being damaged by mold. We can actually see that in organic acid if your mitochondria is damaged. We can often see through a stool sample, like a gut microbiome map, we can see huge changes in your bacteria look crazy because of the antibacterial nature. So we can see those changes as well. So keep that in mind. That's how we can test. So urine, hair, different patterns, symptoms are huge. If you're experiencing neurological symptoms, like I said, headaches, light sensitivity, asthma, sinus issues, allergies, gut issues, inflammation, histamine responses, there are dozens. Just literally Google symptoms of mold functional medicine and see what, that's not how I type, that's just what my hands do when I talk about typing. Anyway, I'm like a little T-Rex. But go back and check that out for yourself. And just dive in, do I have mold? And you'll start to develop some of these symptoms you start to understand. So now we talked about what it is. We talked about why it's a problem. We talked about how to test. The next question we got to be asking is how do you remove it? Let's talk about getting mold out of your system. Again, not a DIY project, very risky, and you need a professional because there's a lot of layers to this. We have to look at two main avenues when looking at mold. The first, we have to say is there something current going on? That's going to be either an auto-inoculation or an environment. Auto meaning mold is colonized. It's growing in your sinuses, in your gut, in your lungs, somewhere else. And mold can absorb through the skin and whatever else. But if it's colonizing, that's an auto-inoculation. If it's active in your environment, seen or unseen, these toxins are getting in from your car, from your house, from your work, from your school, wherever you are. College dorms, these are nasty places for mold. Then you have an ongoing current exposure. First thing we need to do, stop the exposure. You got a headache? Stop hitting yourself in the head with a hammer. Get rid of the first thing. Second of that, we then need to look at removing what's inside your body. So that's again a current toxic exposure. I currently have mold toxins in my body. I need to remove those or we have to look at any residual damage. That's going to be disruption to the cells, the mitochondria, the microbiome, any disruption to your gut lining, your immune system. We have to fix the residual damage. It's not enough to put the fire out and turn off the gas leak. If you want to move back into the home, you have to rebuild it and you only get one home for your body. So we got to rebuild it. So we have to look at a current inoculation. We have to look at any residual damage. That's the next step or what's left over from toxins. And then we go to work to get it out. This goes back, I've done this in, I don't know, probably two dozen, three dozen different lives and lectures that I've done. We talk about the D and 5R process. That's going to be drainage and then we have to go through the 5Rs to remove the problem, remove the mold. We have to replenish the nutrients and give your body what it needs to get rid of these things in a healthy way. We have to repair and rebuild the lining and microbiome and rejuvenate, rebalance the immune system. Let's dive into what those steps actually look at. So we've checked the inoculation, we stopped the inoculation. Now there are a lot of mold or mold heavy foods we have to watch for. Oats, coffee, grains, rice, peanuts, dried fruit, wine. A lot of things tend to be higher in mold, especially cheap things like Folgers, super high in mold. Maxwell House, super high in mold when they were tested independently. So large scale coffee, just avoid it. Try like Happy Gut, Danger Coffee, Kicking Horse Coffee, these certified mold free coffees are a great way to go. But anyway, avoid moldy foods. And this is where we have to look at drainage. Now I've talked about drainage versus detoxing. Drainage is the first step. You cannot get things out of the body if your exit doors are locked. We have seven main exit doors. You have your liver, you have your gallbladder and bile ducts. Skin is one of the most important detox pathways. In fact, there was a study that was done that did a 20-minute sauna session and found that you detox more, like they tested the sweat. They found they detox more in a 20-minute sauna session than on one month on a bunch of supplements and binders. Sweating is a huge way to get stuff out. So you have your liver, gallbladder, bile, skin. You have your lymphatic system. You have your sinuses, your bowels and kidney bladder. It's how you get things out of your body. These are the exit pathways. In mold, we look at cellular and brain, et cetera. But let's talk to these seven. First thing we do, move your liver, move your bile, get toxins moving. Because we lack detoxability under mold, we have co-infections that congest the liver. It's hard to get things out. We support the liver. Gallbladder and bile. These two bad boys, mold, it's lipophilic, which means it likes to bind to fat. It also likes to bind to bile. Bile captures mold toxins. So we have to not only mobilize the bile, we also have to do what's called sequestering. We have to capture the bile. And this is where, at the tail end of a protocol, do not try this right away. You'll get very sick and probably way worse. Something like colostyramine. It is a bile acid binder or a mold toxin binder and a bile acid sequestrant. We actually recycle. 95% of your bile gets reused. It's expensive for your body to make. But if it's not cleaning and filtering and exiting through your bowel properly, you'll reabsorb the mold toxins. Just because you're having diarrhea 30 times a day doesn't mean you're detoxing properly. So we have to take care of the bile. We need to sweat. We need to move to clean the limbs. We need to sinus flush. And you can use humic folic acid very, very lightly in there to flush and bind some of the toxins. We need to be pooping often and peeing lots and hydrating. These are the first steps to draining, to moving the exit doors. And then, and only then, can we work to capture and bind onto the mold. This is where a specialist comes in as well. It's a very touch-and-go process for those with bowel disease. But when we're looking at mold, different types of mold produce different types of toxins. And specific types of toxins require specific types of binders. For example, charcoal, activated charcoal, broad binder, captures a lot of everything. Doesn't do a great job. Saccharomyces boulardii and other other lactobacillus probiotics can also capture and get rid of mold. We have a lot of things that can bind on the mold. Chlorella, bentonite clay, zeolite, again, wellchol, acholestyramine. We can use apple pectin, modified citrus pectin, lots of okra. There's lots of binders, fibers. We have to be careful so you don't set yourself back and kick yourself into a flare. Going through this process on your own, especially those with bowel disease, the risk of flaring is so extremely high. See a professional. Just see a professional, okay? On top of that, we want to reduce histamines. Remember, we talked about what it does to your immune system. We talked about mold triggering this Th2 immune pathway. That's histamines. So you want to decrease your histamines in your diet. Kombuchas, ferments, kefir, yogurt, cured meats, avocados, spinach, anything with vinegars. These are high histamine foods. Food from a can, tuna fish, etc. These are high histamines. Some dried fruit. Be very careful. Reduce your histamine load so you don't drive this immune pathway. And then, we're not done, fix the residual damage. So in this whole process, we've drained, we've reduced histamines. That is turning off the gas leak and putting out the fire. Now there's a whole rebuilding process. Got to remove the raccoons and spiders and everything that moved into the shell of a house. All the co-infections, parasites, bacteria, viral infections, etc. They have to be removed. And then we got to go back and rebuild the gut lining, rebuild the immune system, and then go through and rejuvenate and rebalance that immune system. This is where the five R's come into play. We've done the draining. We now remove, remove the bad guys, remove the co-infections, remove the mold toxins. We have to then replenish what your body is lacking now. Nutrients, electrolytes, etc. Vitamins, minerals, exercise, fresh air, you name it. We have to rebuild and repair the gut lining and gut microbiome and rejuvenate the immune system during balance back to it after all the damage has been done. And that is how we deal with mold. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. This is not a DIY project. Guys, please, please do not hurt yourselves doing this. You can go into a flare. It is a crazy process. It sounds simple, I hope, but it's not always. If you're watching on YouTube, just check the links below the show notes. Send me an email. Let's book in a call. We'll talk about how we can get you help with this to identify, is it mold in your system? How do we test? Walk through the process. Go through the drainage of five hours. It can take four to six months of really carefully monitoring touch and go to help reestablish people's bodies from mold, sometimes longer. I've had people who's taken up to two bloody years. Not all of us. I mean, four to six months with us and the rest on your own, but there's a lot of stuff to clean up afterward. So get help. Don't go crazy. Don't do a DIY. Let's get some help here, okay? Mold is a fixable issue. It doesn't have to be forever. It should not be forever. But your doctor, unfortunately, rarely recognizes that mold is a problem. They may not tell you it's a problem. There's a lot of things we have to note here, okay? So keep that in mind. Mold, I've seen 80% of cases of bowel disease. It's in 70% of U.S. homes. The Crohn's, Colitis Foundation, Mayo Clinic, CDC, they don't yet recognize mold connecting to bowel disease, but the literature is there. It says, here's the immune pathways. Those immune pathways cause bowel disease. That's written. That's published already. We know mold is a big driver. Second to that, it's just not common in the training. They don't know what to do. And so, see a specialist. There's lots of us out there. If you think I'm a weirdo, and I kind of am, see somebody else, but see a specialist who works in mold who can truly help you. Guys, that's all we got for you for tonight. Thanks so much for being here. We'll see you next time. The first steps to healing colitis. Carrie, first steps to healing colitis. First steps to healing colitis, Carrie, you have to identify the root. How do we heal colitis? Colitis, let's break this down for a minute. Doctors say it's autoimmune, genetic, it's random, it's not. Very first thing pinned on my Instagram profile is a breakdown as to why none of those things are true. So, colitis means colon, itis means inflammation. What is inflammation? Inflammation is your body trying to heal you from something. Doctors go, oh, it's genetic. There's no gene that causes these disease. That's been disproven. It's not even autoimmune. The nine most common antibodies don't attack yourself. It's not random. There's always a root cause. So, we have colon, itis, colon inflammation, a defense mechanism happening in your colon. So, what is your body trying to protect you from? The first step is identifying your root. It could be complicated, could be simple. Maybe you're living in mold and that's when you got it. Maybe it goes back to being a c-section baby, being bottle fed, being sick with asthma and inflammation growing up and all kinds of sicknesses and being given antibiotics and having fungal issues and taking Accutane and menstrual issues and being on the pill and stressing and drinking and smoking and drugs and whatever that led to the point where you finally got colitis. Maybe that's it. But that root is somewhere, back to birth or somewhere in your life. Once we identify that, we then begin rebuilding things and reversing the process and that is how we get you better and begin reversing colitis. That looks like it's really it this time. Guys, you've been a pleasure. See you next week. Wonderful. One of my favorite things to hear as an IBD specialist is something along the lines of, I learned more from you in 15 minutes than from my doctor in 15 years. And if this for the first time is really starting to click and it's starting to make sense, you're going, wait a minute, this might be reversible. I think there's more that I can do. This condition came out of nowhere. It happened to me out of the blue. I was healthy for 10, 20, 30, 40 years and suddenly I wasn't and you're telling me there's no cause. If you're understanding finally that there is a cause, that something is driving this, I want to invite you to check the link in the show notes below. Send me an email. Ask a question. See if a program is the right fit for you because I promise you this doesn't have to be a lifelong sentence. You're not doomed to this and IBD can be reversed.