The way we get seen with Jennifer Lucero

The podcast the way we get seen talks about how different cultural backgrounds go into viewing people who are learning and trying to identify their gender expression and identity and how they are viewed by the older generation versus the new generation of each culture. This is a preview of how gender expression and identity are viewed in a latin household with my own personal stories from myself and family and talking about other things that affect them. The podcast will touch on how being a Latina affects certain aspects of gender as well as other cultural backgrounds and discussing similarities and differences, 

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Intro music plays:(Changes based on the topic and cultural background talked about)
Jenny: Welcome to the way we get seen podcast- where we explore gender identity and
expression in different cultural backgrounds
Jenny: I'm your host- Jenny
Jenny: Today we’re focusing on Latin Culture. as you kind of can tell about the song, it's a
classic. I am from the beautiful country of Ecuador. Well, some of you may agree or may not. We
are all very territorial about our countries. They're all nice, but some of them have their little ins
and outs that make them a little bit more.
Jenny: But being from a Hispanic country, not only the way I've seen it, how many different
people see it, it brings so many complications more when it has to do with gender. And if we talk
about it or not. In my experience, gender is the one thing and the one thing only. You're whatever
you were when you were born. It's hard to change how people kind of view it, especially more
with the older generation.
Jenny: Our grandparents, or even great-grandparents, you know, those in the Hispanic
household kind of know that we have generations way older, not just grandparents, even step
back. We keep ourselves young, as they say. Well, they live the way they must. They live a very
life that is better than some of us may say. Well, older generations, they don't really comprehend
as well, or they just possibly don't want to understand how gender is a broad topic and can be
categorized into just one thing.

Jenny: For my cousins, well, even some of my aunts and uncles, they understand when I am
sharing things about it or how things are changing more with gender. And, well, more my
cousins. They're my age. We kind of are the new generation of our family. We understand what
we're talking about, and we don't really need as much explaining as some others do. But my
aunts, they're stuck in the middle. They're being influenced by the older generation and the new
generation. They kind of want to know what their kids are talking about, what they're going
through. But they still need a little bit more of a push to get to it. They are seeing cases on
TikTok or Facebook, as they call it. They are talking about pronouns and the classification of
gender. and what the terms biological sex is, gender, gender classification, that's what they're
learning. Back then, that thing wasn't really out there as it is now. And even then, if it was out
there, our families really didn't talk about it because it wasn't a thing you talked about. More, if
their parents were those that were like, you were born female, you will stay female during your
whole life. That's how it was. And that's how some of them were raised. So it's understandable
how, when they're trying to kind of breach into the new generation, they have the restrictions in
themselves. They're like, do I kind of forget everything I was taught and relearn everything? Or
do I just mix them two together? Or do I just not even pay attention? But there's new terms,
there's new terms that come out mostly in the new generation.
Jenny: Just in case somebody needs more information, we are here to help. Biological sex refers,
you know, to our anatomy, physiologically, and what's our body physically, like how we look.
Gender is our social cultural roles that we are expected to do and based on our biological sex.
You know, if you're the male in more latin households, you are the breadwinner. You go out, you
make the money, you pay the rent, you pay the bills. As a female, you would stay home, take
care of the kids, take care of the household. That's what our older generations are. We are

changing it up a bit, but we will talk about that in a bit. More, gender classification is a
combination of different categories of how you view yourself, not mattering biological
classification. I was born a female. I use she and her pronouns. And I live as a female in my life.
That's my case. I'm a girly all the way. If you know me, you know me. I like the bling, the gold,
the dresses and all that. That's just me. A lot of people are still female even though they don't
really do that.
Jenny: My household was a bit complicated. It's stuck in between the new generation and the
old generation. My mom and I are only fifteen years apart. She had me at a very young age. So
for her, she's a little bit more understanding of what everything about gender is and all the things
that come with it. My grandma, she... As she's still young, she's almost in her mid-fifties, she's
still young, she kind of has a different view on it. She really doesn't understand it. She will
accept it, but she wouldn't really go out of her way and talk about it. For us in the Latino
household, as many of you can tell, and we'll be able to give in our own experience, there's
something called the machismo, where the guys are the breadwinners and those are who us
females have to serve. Those are the ones that we have to look for. Those that we have to take
care of, the male just works, comes home, and then the female attends to its needs. That's how
the older generation did it.
Jenny: For us, the new generation, the ones that are changing, both of us go out, work, make the
money. Some may split it fifty-fifty, you know, depending on financial, how we are. But for us,
we will not attend the guy. The guy is also capable of going cooking for us. That's what the new
generation is all about. Exploring and kind of pushing the boundaries a little bit more. And some
people might, you know, kind of question it if they're from the older generation. even then you
know so let's say that oh one of our family members they are trying to you know understand a

little bit more about who they are or how they want to express themselves in most hispanic
households you will know and kind of hear about it in little chit chat and little chisme as we call
it. But you will never hear them say it directly, more based on just kind of unsure on how people
will react.
Jenny: Some of the families might be super accepting because the new generation, the new
information is kind of going into their heads and kind of the old information that they knew kind
of leave in their minds. But some may not want to talk about it, may not even want to accept it.
And that is a lot of own personal chaos in somebody because they want to go out and see what's
out there and see exactly how they want to identify themselves. But, you know, you can do that
outside. But when you come home, you get restricted and then have only... one thing that you
have to be, that's not how many people view, and that's where most of the problems start.
Jenny: My parents, if I ever kind of wanted to explore maybe more of my gender identity, they
would be up for it. They would talk to me, they would understand, and they would try to be part
of the new journey and the new one that I would try to be. I know some for my friends, it's not
always the case. So some, their moms are very strict. Some of the dads kind of have a view on,
oh, she's female, she's going to go to school, she's going to get married, have kids, I'm going to
have grandchildren, and that's it. You don't really fight on, oh, she is a female. biologically but
she has more of a masculine energy some some of the males may be male physically but have a
female touch you will never hear in a household that is hispanic that they talk about it you kind
of if you live in a household that accepts it you would kind of look at it acknowledge it and move
on and never talk about it. You will not be able to express your feelings, not be able to kind of,
you know, have a little more information, kind of share your feelings. That's how we are. That's
how the old generation is.

Jenny: We are trying to change it up a bit, you know, trying to make sure that if you need to talk
to me, I am here. If we need to change it up, change the way we're looking for things or the way
that we need to express about one or the other person, or if you want to do a gender... a whole
gender classification, a new one, we would be up for it. That's how we are changing the ways,
but we still need a lot of work.