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When God and Grit Meet Episode #35

Rob N Larry Season 2 Episode 35

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Discover the unfiltered truths of recovery in our latest episode that delves into the complex interplay between faith and raw honesty. Are spirituality and the language surrounding it clean-cut? This episode disrupts that notion as we explore the surprising intersection of faith and, yes, even four-letter words. 

Join our candid conversations filled with personal anecdotes that highlight vulnerability in recovery. When we embrace our struggles and share our hardships, we create a supportive community that lifts everyone up. We discuss the essential role of connection and authenticity in recovery and how embracing our entire experience—including the messy bits—can lead to profound transformations. 

This episode reminds us that navigating faith during dark times can be messy. However, it is precisely in that messiness that we often find the deepest truths about ourselves and our relationships with a higher power. Each story told urges listeners to confront their own experiences without glossing over the discomfort in the pursuit of healing.

If you're craving thought-provoking discussions that challenge norms, this episode is for you. Let’s lean into the beauty of raw honesty together, recognizing the messy, often uncomfortable truth that surrounds our journey of recovery. Don't forget to subscribe, share, or leave a review if you enjoyed the episode!

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Speaker 2:

We'll see. Ask very little. However, you will hear the word God in a four-letter word in the same sentence. You will also be offended. So if you are easily offended, just pass us by. This podcast is not for you.

Speaker 1:

Our opinions are just that.

Speaker 2:

Why not a three-letter?

Speaker 1:

word Say that's okay, we're going to love you anyways. What is a bad three-letter word?

Speaker 2:

Cow, god be cow, grab a beverage of your choice and get ready.

Speaker 1:

Let's go.

Speaker 2:

Hello Robert, what's? Up Because you know what four-letter word we're talking about when they say that.

Speaker 1:

Hey, what did I say right from the very beginning? One of the first AA meetings I was into. Aa is the only place where we heard God and fuck in the same sentence.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, by a man who's walking with him Right.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy. I was just talking to somebody the other day. I said you know, I grew up in the church, but my relationship with God since I've been in AA is tenfold different tenfold, but better.

Speaker 2:

It's actually a relationship. It's not knowledge, it's a relationship, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Now it is Like I said I can sit and speak, talk with him, just like you and I are sitting here talking, right?

Speaker 2:

I have zero problem working around outside doing the things I'm doing driving down the road, just him and I having a conversation sometimes it's even better just turn the radio off, don't listen to podcast or whatever, and just I do that a lot and just be with just be with him.

Speaker 1:

I do that a lot and just kind of right.

Speaker 2:

I do that a lot you know that's my.

Speaker 1:

When I'm dry because I drive so much right me, I listen to a podcast or I listen to something, but there's a lot of times I'll just get in the truck and hell, I'll be down the road a couple hours before I realize shit. I haven't turned the radio, I haven't done anything, just thinking. Just thinking you know that's a dangerous place to be is inside my brain Sometimes, especially when we were drinking.

Speaker 2:

Drinking thinking, not just thinking.

Speaker 1:

You threw your wife on a plane this morning. Huh brother, yes, I did.

Speaker 2:

Five o'clock. Well, actually we were there at 4.30. Her plane went off at like 5.20. It's in Sacramento, so it was nice, that's an easy airport. She goes. You're not going to walk in with me? I said, babe, I can only away. I'm going to boot you out and go.

Speaker 1:

Get your shit and get the fuck out. Hey, speaking of that, so Tammy's having surgery Monday. So they found her rubber band small enough to put her shoulder back together.

Speaker 2:

Put her shoulder back together and hopefully it holds this time, Because she really didn't do anything to tear it.

Speaker 1:

She didn't actually fall or nothing like that she's lifting herself up onto the cabinet, probably. Sorry, tammy, little people problems. They make step stools for people like you. They make little people houses.

Speaker 2:

Well, the doctor said he thought her tendons and ligaments were strong enough to hold, and apparently they weren't.

Speaker 1:

It's that old age.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you got to go back. Can you imagine going back?

Speaker 1:

She's going to go on a step stool and punch me if I ever see her.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, with a good hand, the rebuilt one, she got cadavered.

Speaker 1:

So you're alone for six weeks. Six weeks, oh my God. What are you going to?

Speaker 2:

do, we'll do some fishing you are. Oh yeah, I, I'm going to go down and shoot some guns.

Speaker 1:

We ought to do a podcast every day while she's gone. Let's do it. I can do that. Do some step work. My wife will shoot me if you're here every day. Hey, so I got a phone call yesterday. You know I'm coming up on my three year. This is kind of a little bit I was going to talk about today. I'm coming up on my three year and I know I talked about this the other night in the men's group, but you know it's. I got a phone call from a primary purpose yesterday and I know you know about this but it was.

Speaker 2:

You know, that's a God. It's still a God it is.

Speaker 1:

It is and I, you know, I, I spoke last two or three weeks ago and I, you know, I I enjoy speaking. I mean, we talk about that all the time, I don't really care and it it does a lot for me and I enjoy it. And but Jeanette called me yesterday and, um, and it was kind of blue and I was like, well, hello, ms Jeanette. And you know, we talked for a minute and she's like, what are you doing on the third Friday of next month? And I'm like I have to look at my calendar and and I said, well, I think I'm, I'm home, she goes, you want to come speak? And I got goosebumps and I'm like, seriously, she's like, yeah, she goes, you think you're ready, I go, I'm ready anytime you want. I'm just, you know, it's my home group, it's where I got and I just it was just I got butterflies for that one. And when you asked me to speak at New Hope, I didn't get or Living Sober, I didn't get the goosebumps like I did there.

Speaker 2:

It's nothing like your home group. Right, right, I didn't speak at my home group until I was 12 years, sober, I mean, they asked a few times, but it just didn't work out until someone fell through and I was she goes, I need someone because it was June, right, and she goes, I need someone next month to speak. No, it was the beginning of July. The speaker's not going to be able to show up. All right, it was a short notice thing and I killed it. Of course you did. I don't know if I did that, I just said that to brag, but I don't know if I did anyway, you probably did.

Speaker 1:

You probably did so, yeah, so of my three years, and you know, I got to go to dinner and brad will be getting his chip.

Speaker 2:

That right. Yes, when you speak, so that's that's even more special.

Speaker 1:

That'll be fun. You got to make sure jeanette knows to have a birthday card this year I'll probably hit a meeting this week.

Speaker 1:

Okay, because when or when I hit a meeting because bonnie's gonna be gone, so I'll have more time I'll hit a meeting and I'll start a card for right um, so I got to have dinner with jason last night, oh yeah, yeah, it was cool, you know, because my main office is over in Marina where he's working at all the time. So I called him up to go to dinner so we had some good conversations so it's always great to see him. Man, I love that guy, I miss him. Yeah, he's, you know, he's starting to get a little burnt out over there. It sounds like, you know, know he it's a lot, it's a lot.

Speaker 2:

He's been over there it's heavy on him, so he toured me around some of those houses he's building. My that was probably.

Speaker 1:

I mean that probably really picked him up too, though it was fun I enjoyed.

Speaker 1:

those houses are freaking gorgeous. You know we, you know, jason, I have a lot in common, right, we're away from home a lot, right, yep, and we're. You know, for me I don't have I'm not in the same spot like jason is, like Jason's there all week long, every week in the same spot. I'm not right, I'm all over the place. So he Like cow shit, there you go. So he was telling me he started digging into his wallet. He goes, look at here.

Speaker 2:

And he had a chip for his six year and I've got one for him because I was going to get one for him, but and he had a chip for his sixth year and I've got one for him because I was going to get one for him.

Speaker 1:

But I was just excited. I'm like you finally got a home group over here and he goes. Yeah, he goes. You know, I didn't think I really did until they gave me that he goes. Now I just kind of feel like I got a home group over here, so good for him. I think that made him happy, that made him feel at home.

Speaker 1:

You know, for me, like friday, on monday, at the meeting I don't know what it is and hopefully, you, you keep saying I hope it never goes away. You know, because for some reason, this last three months, starting in february, the february, march and then april, I, leading up to my birthday, I just get anxious, I get angry, um, I get anxious. I start reliving all these last three, these, you know, these last two and a half months in my head, starting February, right, that, the conference I just went to, right, I hadn't been to it in three years. I went back this year and it's all started. It didn't all start there.

Speaker 1:

My, my hard end started there, right? So I, you know, I started really just, oh my god, just overthinking shit like we do and getting you know, and I've been, but I noticed I haven't been praying of a morning. I've gotten busy, right, I've gotten extremely busy at work. I haven't been praying of a morning, I haven't been spending the time in my book, I haven't been doing the things that I you know that I normally do kind of got now that routine and uh, so I kind of and I the balance of where I was at with my sobriety is kind of kicked. You know it's not there. So I'm just struggling with that a little bit and, you know, trying to figure out okay, how to. You know, we're in my busy schedule because with this new job that I got you know I started in October longer I'm there, the more my feet get dug into the operation right, the more.

Speaker 2:

And more God gives us these times, so we can not hold on to that anchor too bad. Let it go and trust in him a little more. And when I said I didn't want you, I hope you never forget that. Right, you know, they say it's twofold. They say if you don't remember your last drink, you haven't had it yet. Right, right, one, that's a very good statement. And two, because I had the same thing In early sobriety what I considered the first five years May I would get it. I just but the in May, because June 1st is it. I just want that month to get over with Right, because I'd start getting anxious a little bit, like not that I was going to drink, but it was just. It was just what. I just want to get it to June 1st. Okay, another year down.

Speaker 1:

And then it was. I don't know what it was, but I also did relive a little bit, and I don't have that I don't have that. I can't drop that emotion that you did, which is awesome. I get it.

Speaker 2:

I love that. That's powerful. No it, you know what? Because that's a deeper appreciation for what we got.

Speaker 1:

I do appreciate it.

Speaker 2:

Don't don't for any moment that I don't appreciate that, but man, sometimes I wish it would, the pain would dull a little bit bit.

Speaker 1:

it will, it will because time will do what time does right, and it's just. You know. I remember, you know, when I had to see some people that I haven't seen in a few years, right, I've done my amends to them, but I didn't get to see them face to face because they live on the other side of the country they live out of. One was in canada, so I hadn't got to see them and and, uh, we got to do that face to face and you know, I thought it was. You know, once again you play these scenarios out in your head.

Speaker 2:

You know, I wasn't for sure how we were going to interact together and how to go like we were best friends still like like you, nothing like you're back together yesterday yeah, I just overplayed everything in my head like we do, oh, we do and I.

Speaker 1:

I had all these scenarios and seeing people that I haven't seen since I've been sober and not knowing how they were going to just overplaying shit, sitting in the bar and doing all that stuff that I really don't give a shit about. Sitting in the bar wasn't a worry for me. It was how people were going to react to me, which we can't control.

Speaker 2:

No, we can't, but we think about such things, we do.

Speaker 1:

And it's hard, so people don't know how to act around us.

Speaker 2:

Oh, and it's hard. You know it's hard, so people don't know how to act around us.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you know that's even worse, right? So I mean they don't, and especially if they give a shit about you, right?

Speaker 2:

oh yeah, if they give a shit about you, they really don't know how to put their, put their behind their back right hide that god damn old fashion. What?

Speaker 1:

one of the. I went out to dinner on um, I don't know what did you eat while you were in Vegas?

Speaker 2:

What did you eat? Come on, talk to us.

Speaker 1:

I went to Lowry Steakhouse one night with some friends.

Speaker 2:

Prime rib, of course. Oh yeah, Was it the best prime rib you ever had? Was it really good prime rib?

Speaker 1:

It's good, I've had better. I like Lowry's, don't get me wrong, but I mean I've had better. Okay, it's good. You know, the nice thing about that place is how they present it, because they come out.

Speaker 2:

They come out with a cart.

Speaker 1:

They come out with that big-ass cart and cut it right there in front of you. You know to me I'm a meat and tater kind of guy, yeah baby.

Speaker 2:

That's all I eat, right.

Speaker 1:

You can even hold the tater sometimes, right, and they try to. They try to doctor up the taters too much. You know the guys I was with were drinking and you know they're having a good time and I ordered my Pellegrino and you know, it's it, it, it's no big deal. Then Tuesday night I went out with the another group and, um, the, there was actually just two of us and both of them ordered an iced tea. Because I ordered an iced tea. No, I'm sorry, I ordered a Pellegrino and she ordered an iced tea. No, I'm sorry, I ordered a Pellegrino and she ordered an iced tea. And the other guy ordered an iced tea. And I'm like, I looked at both of them. I go. If you motherfuckers don't order a drink, I'm leaving and they go. Well, we the one. Well, you know, I just feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 1:

I'm like if you feel uncomfortable, think about one ounce. And I told her I go. You make me uncomfortable by not having a drink.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, ain't going to bother me. Just don't hold me down and pour it down my throat. We'll be all right, we'll be all right.

Speaker 1:

So anyway, so yeah, it was fine. And then, like I said, coming home from that, there's just a lot. These memories just come back up and come. The end of about mid-March is when I started really going to the doctor and started getting the bad diagnoses. Started shitting blood and puking blood the blood coming out and the bad stuff, the story we read that's called esophageal hemorrhage is what you had.

Speaker 1:

The story that we read the other night. It was absolutely just brought all that shit back up again because it was basically telling my story, yeah, and then you know, so it just all that stuff. And then I had to, I had to go through my list of uh, because I actually, when this lands, I'll be post-op two days, so I'm having surgery on monday, nice I'll drop wednesday no that's.

Speaker 1:

Is that an in and outer? It's a very simple surgery. They're just pinning my si joints together. So I mean, it's the. You'll be walking out, are they gonna?

Speaker 1:

no, I, they said I, I know they'll small incisions small incisions with three screws on both sides, you know, pinning my si joints together, but they um. So yeah, when this lands on wednesday I'll be, you know, recouping when this basically lands, and then you know. So I had a. I had to read I don't know why on this, on this one, but I had to read like all my, I had to prove all my past medical history and I started reading.

Speaker 2:

And I started reading about all the trips to the hospital, those last, but I wanted to ask you what was the time frame in that in those started?

Speaker 1:

january 24th 2022 of 2022 that's when you said that. What was the timeframe in those trips? It started January 24th. Oh, 2022. Of 2022.

Speaker 2:

That's when you said that because that was the end. That to March or April was the end January 2024. And how many trips were there?

Speaker 1:

Seven.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, between For the alcoholism, for the guts and the.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, I was trying to blame it on, you know, oh my God, I got heartburn. I God, I got heartburn. I got this, I got that, you know, but shit, I lost. From probably about mid-March until April 12th, I lost 45 pounds. You know, I went from being a bloated, overweight turd to losing 45 pounds.

Speaker 2:

That's a hell of a diet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, atkins, not one, I would suggest. Yeah, right, it was painful. Right, I mean you don't eat, you got, I mean you don't eat. It was painful and I was blaming it on everything. But, and the doctor, one of the last visits he just do you drink? Oh, I drink a little bit, liar. Why do you ask Liar? He knew, yeah, they know.

Speaker 2:

It says right in Look at your liver. What do they call it? Your liver function or your numbers?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they knew your, your what do they call it? Your liver function or the? You know your numbers? Yeah, they knew. I mean, like I said, I can read down through my medical. I'm like, yep, remember that one, remember that one, I remember that one, and it just you know. But I start reliving that stuff and it's not I don't feel the pain, for I think of my wife and my kids, right, and I just think how hard that had to be, because I think if I had to watch my wife do that, how miserable I would be watching her and how much it would hurt for me to watch her go through it. And then it hurts, right, because I'm like she had to watch me go through all this shit, and it's like, and it hurts because I feel for her.

Speaker 2:

Well, because now we actually don't, because the alcoholic addict either way, six one half dozen are the most selfish and self-centered human beings, in my opinion, on the fucking planet. Then, once we take this step and we get God in our lives, we start loving people as we should properly. Then we can actually have empathy and hurt for them. Man, look at the shit I put them through, cause. Now you know, and that's what you're feeling, which is awesome.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the empathy is. You know I I've never felt that before. You know, Katie, I don't give a shit about no one but me. No, no, my Katie and I were just talking about this. The other my feelings to other people is sometimes it gets in the way.

Speaker 2:

It's not that I didn't have feelings, but they weren't as strong as the ones I had to roll around.

Speaker 1:

I didn't give a shit about them, especially if they got in the way of my drinking. Yeah, come on Right. No, you don't. You know, don't get in the way of my drinking. You want me to feel sorry for you? I'll feel sorry for you. Let's go have a beer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let's go sit and have a beer and talk about it. And once I get my needs met, once I got what I need and I'm right, then I'll help you, right, yeah?

Speaker 1:

So then, chana called me from Maynard's. I go up there this Friday to speak up there again.

Speaker 2:

Okay, good, that's fine yeah.

Speaker 1:

I haven't been to the gels. Because of work right and the running, I haven't had a chance to go into the jails and I think that's a little bit of my balance issues right. So I haven't been able to chance to go in and do that because I used to get so much out of that and I'm not getting that.

Speaker 2:

But you notice God is supplementing with other things a lot, right, you know almost right because you know I didn't she. She called me. She says hey. I said yep, she goes. Do you think larry's ready to speak? And I know what she was talking about. I said he's born ready. She was, I need you, she was. Would you please shut up? Yeah, get off. God, get one of them fucking shepherd's hooks and rip it. Shepherd, shepherd hook, get it anyway, and I said she was.

Speaker 2:

Would you please get me some other names of some speakers? I need some people will come up, sure, but it wasn't. I didn't refer, I didn't refer you. She called and asked are you ready? Yeah, he's ready. So that's a god thing. God puts you on her mind, right, you know, to keep you supplemented from we got another guy from primary I think I told you about it.

Speaker 1:

Um, he, he, oh, the the yeah to have him on maybe yeah, I, I think that would be an interesting. He studied in molecule molecular biology Right and he you know he, he started going to primary and you know he got our name through Dawson and Michael, who's been on the show Right, he's listened to it and he wants to come on and talk about he. Wants to come on and talk about the effects.

Speaker 2:

He's a new. He's a new, he's really a newbie, which is great yeah, since december of 2023.

Speaker 1:

So he's got a. He's got a little over a year, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, I'm trying to get him on, but the effects alcohol has on the body not just makes us loopy, but you know the. Because when I went in for my hip, you know, when I first went to my hip doctor and he was to ask me questions about, he asked me did you ever drink you know to excess? And I was like, well, questions about. He asked me, did you ever drink you know to excess? And I was like, well, yeah, absolutely. Why do you ask you? Because because that, because the necrosis that started this could come from alcohol abuse. I'm like, are you shitting me? That stuff is. I've been told that.

Speaker 1:

I've been told that, with all the with all the damage that's going on in my back I did not know.

Speaker 1:

You know, yeah, I've been told that a couple times. You know, in fact, the lady that did my intake today. Um, she asked, she goes, she's going down through the list, do you do this, do you do this? And then she says do you drink alcohol? I go, boy, did I? And she started laughing oh yeah, I was. I was I haven't for almost three years, but I was pretty. Yeah, I was a pretty hard drinker. And she says well, you know, that could be a problem with a lot of this stuff. And I go well, you're not the first one to tell me that right, that's something.

Speaker 2:

So it'd be cool to get them on and just to see the short-term effects, which we know some of, right, but you know, and of course the cirrhosis and that. But there's more than just the liver oh, as we're finding out, as we're finding out what it can do, so that'd be kind of cool. But you know, what though, rob?

Speaker 1:

The recovery process. I know my bones probably won't re-heal themselves, but the rest of my body from everything, is pretty much healed itself back.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, no, no, no, but it's the bones that are good, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's just the bones and all the accidents I was in and everything else, and it's just. You know, this would be my 24th surgery and, um, yeah, that's a lot, that's a lot, yeah.

Speaker 1:

so you know, and I go back and I start thinking about all the you're like the jay walker in the book running up, walking out in front of shit, I go back and I start counting the surgeries and I think that you know that one's from alcohol, that one's from alcohol, that one's from alcohol, you know, because it all stems back to a wreck, right, that I was in in 1988. Right, I mean I, I go back and this that was from the wreck, that was from the wreck, that was from the wreck. So, yeah, I mean it all stems back, you know, and it started in 2015 when I fell down and broke my hip. It it scattered the calcium. Were you drunk too? I'd been drinking that whole morning. Yeah, sweet, yeah. So I mean it it all stems back to that one way or another one way or another, that's something one way or another.

Speaker 1:

One way or another, that's something One way or another.

Speaker 2:

What else going on? I don't know what is going on. I don't know. I got the two Daniels doing good now With one Daniel, the bigger kid, doing real good. God's got a hold of him, which is awesome to see. That's the big guy, that's the big guy. So what about, uh, the trigger man? No, I haven't heard. He's not been. He's not been back to a meeting yet.

Speaker 1:

I haven't seen him, haven't seen roy, all we can do is pray man yeah you know it's a sad deal, but we all knew. Well, I don't know about, we all knew, but we whenever he's started speaking about it I fucking knew. Well, yeah, I mean I I'm a little cautious, but when he started talking about it, you already started planning. He was planning for that Right.

Speaker 2:

But when you give yourself an out, I got triggers and this is it Okay. But then you went out and that wasn't Right. So did you find another one? That's the whole joke with the tripping over the Roger's horse. Bullshit, right, you know. But when he comes back, we'll love him and and we'll work through that. Hey, do you see now where your problem lies? That ain't out here, it's, it's in between your ears, you know? Let's, let's work on that, brother so I just thought about something.

Speaker 2:

I'm probably gonna leave this one and remember curtis yeah no, he's still doing very well what, how, yeah, where, when, what so I?

Speaker 1:

haven't got a chance and mir's probably going to kick me in the ass for even bringing this up. But no kidding, yeah, he's doing very good, very good, going to CR, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Going to CR if that's where he found his home.

Speaker 2:

Is he still with Crazy?

Speaker 1:

And Miranda said he was going to call me, but he hasn't yet. And it's all right, it's like I told Miranda.

Speaker 2:

I said I don't care if he calls me or not. I thought that guy was going to.

Speaker 1:

So do you and me both yeah. He was on his way to death. I thought he was dead. I just hadn't heard from him and Miranda said he's doing amazing. She saw him, man, that's good. Yeah, I don't give a shit where he goes. I don't.

Speaker 2:

Eventually, he'll find his way to us. Well, you know, I just whatever.

Speaker 1:

As long as he stays sober and he's happy and he's got joy in his life. Good for you.

Speaker 2:

That's good. That's good to hear. That makes my weekend.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it made me happy when Miranda told me I was like what? And she goes yeah, and I'm like you know what? From the last time I spoke to him I said don't you ever fucking call me again.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he has. Okay Is that when he was drunk in the car and then got arrested, he got the DUI? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I know what's, when I was in Austin and last time I was in Austin and uh. I haven't heard from him since. That was the last job you got a new job since. So yeah, I don't know. Just, you know we hear those kind of things and it's the same thing. When we speak, right we, we want to hit that one soul and sometimes that soul gets.

Speaker 2:

You know, sometimes that soul but him coming to our meetings for a while planted seeds and then someone else watered it and someone else helped it grow Awesome.

Speaker 1:

No, and he found his. We pray, you know, we pray that he found his, his way to sobriety through. You know, celebrate recovery Right. And yeah, I mean, some people get it.

Speaker 2:

I know the God that's over there. Yeah, yeah, same God I got. He's mine.

Speaker 1:

He works over there too, does he? It was funny, jason was asking me last night. He was like, cause I was telling him about you know this guy and he goes jay javali goes. What is cr? So I'm like, really I go and I explained it to him. He's like well, I had to. We talked about it a little bit so anyways.

Speaker 2:

So we were jason a, jason a got his seven years right. Friday night we got. We and a few of the boys were down there where in oakdale okay, he got, he got his down there. It's good, huge beating. Where was it in the oakdale? Okay, he got, he got his down there it was good, huge beating.

Speaker 1:

Where was it in the oakdale meeting?

Speaker 2:

yeah, huge inside that little inside that little, every chair and about half of them off the wall were there really yeah, and the fire at. The fire chief came in, we'd all get kicked out because it was way over capacity was the fireman scott. There, you know, he was like hey, what's capacity here's? Don't say no, I'm not, I'm retired. Bill got his 37. Bill, old Bill, okay, okay, so he's been sober. He got sober at 37. He just celebrated 37 years so he's been sober half his life, which is that's a goal.

Speaker 1:

That's a goal for everybody. That's pretty cool. That's really cool.

Speaker 2:

Unless you got sober at five, then that's not an accomplishment at all, bitches.

Speaker 1:

No no.

Speaker 2:

I got to go 38 years, fuck. So how old would that make me?

Speaker 1:

38 is what I'll have to be 104.

Speaker 2:

I'll have to be 104. 70 fucking four.

Speaker 1:

I'd have to be 104.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you ain't going to make it you might make it. By the time we get there, they'll have some shit you can inject in your ass. That'll, that's funny.

Speaker 1:

Give you a new life. That's funny, that sorry, I forgot to shut my phone off that. So yeah, those birthdays we got a lot of birthdays coming up inside of our group, right now Next month, Right, Brad and me Kevin.

Speaker 2:

We just had Kevin. I got his Pat.

Speaker 1:

Pat just celebrated 32. Yes, so I mean we got a lot of anniversaries coming up for some reason. For some reason, we have a lot coming up this time of year. So anyways, hey, I didn't say our where you could reach us at. You can reach us at recovery unfiltered uh podcast podcast. Sorry, recovery unfiltered podcast at gmailcom. If you got any questions concerns I. I know this is going to be a shorty today because or if we're pissed you off, oh, call rob.

Speaker 1:

Let us have it Just call Rob, if you disagree with something, let me have it.

Speaker 2:

Call Rob, though. I will just give it. Give me, give us, give me, give me all your venom. Or if we said something that that touched your heart, sure, Let us know that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a lot of words of encouragement and I haven't really had a chance we do and and I and I love those.

Speaker 1:

You know, those are the ones that I really enjoy, the ones that you know I haven't seen and it's you know. You can take it as a good or bad, I don't. I haven't seen one in a while saying that they need, you know, help us find some help. And you know I just hope if you're out there and you're questioning, don't don't worry about it. Just call or email me. We'll figure out how to get in touch with somebody. We did have a new—.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I'm a single man. For six weeks, my wife's in Wyoming, so if you need help I'll drive. I got extra time.

Speaker 1:

Have Subaru we'll travel. Anyways, rob, I appreciate you doing this at the last minute. I wanted to drop another one in real fast before the surgery and everything happens. So, once again, if you have, uh, if you got any concerns, want to jump out and see us? It's recovery unfiltered. Hey, you know what?

Speaker 1:

sorry, before I jump out I probably just lost a bunch of people, though. So if bonnie's in you in wyoming now, now will you guys still be going there for your summer vacation? Or now are you going to go to the international convention? Jason wanted me to ask you that I'm not going to that thing why I ain't going.

Speaker 2:

Are you driving? Are we flying? Flying? She wants me to. I don't know. I'm gonna text. I want to go somewhere with her.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we'll take her yeah, but I don't want to and I ain't taking her I'm not, I know, but I ain't taking her to freaking canada.

Speaker 2:

She wouldn't want to go to canada to be part of that. She'll just sit in the hotel room. She ain't gonna be part of that. Kim is actually right. You know, my wife don't like people, doesn't like cold, they don't like to travel and I just sent her all three. You know that's funny, but I want to do something with just us, right? No, that's good. So I we might fly back to, because what they want me to do, because they've been trying to get me back there.

Speaker 1:

Go back and see your sister.

Speaker 2:

I might drive back there to pick her up, okay, but probably not because of what's going on with work and stuff. You know, we'll just have to time it different, okay, they?

Speaker 1:

fucked everything up. All right, recovery. Unfiltered Podcast at gmailcom. Hope you learned something today that will help you If you did not come back next week, and we'll try again.

Speaker 2:

If you like what we heard, give us a five-star review. If you don't like what you heard, kiss my ass. I can't say that, can you? Anyway, if you don't like what you heard, go ahead and tell us that too. We'll see what we can improve. We Thanks.

Speaker 1:

Rob, come back next week and hopefully something will be different and something will sink in. Take care, this has been Recovery, unfiltered.