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Milestones and Mountains: 14 Years of Recovery
Birthdays in recovery are powerful milestones that remind us of both how far we've come and the work that carried us here. In this deeply personal episode, we celebrate Rob's 14th sobriety birthday with surprise calls from sponsees and friends while exploring the universal principles of recovery that apply to healing of all kinds.
Through heartfelt conversations and raw reflections, we uncover the striking similarities between physical rehabilitation and addiction recovery. Both journeys demand consistent effort, particularly during those lonely moments when no one is watching. As Rob shares, "The difference between an average athlete and a pro athlete is what they do when nobody's watching"—a principle that applies perfectly to recovery work.
The episode takes an unexpected turn as we examine the profound wisdom from Jeremy Renners experience recovering from being crushed by a snowcat. His journey through physical trauma mirrors the addiction recovery process in surprising ways, revealing how all forms of healing share common elements: community support, personal determination, and ultimately, the desire to help others walking similar paths.
Perhaps most powerfully, we discuss how true growth never happens during the comfortable "mountaintop experiences" of life. Though the view from the peak is breathtaking, nothing actually grows there. The real transformation always occurs in the valleys—those painful periods of struggle where we're forced to dig deep, confront our limitations, and push beyond what we thought possible.
If you're walking through recovery of any kind, this episode offers both compassion for your struggle and conviction that the work is worth it. Listen in as we celebrate not just years accumulated, but a life transformed through persistent effort and the willingness to help others along the way.
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Speaker 2:not my wife, not your wife, nor anybody listening to this podcast has eaten a shit sandwich. We didn't welcome recovery I'm filter. I'm larry. I'm an alcoholic. I am rob. I am also an alcoholic. We are not professionals. There are no letters after our names. We know very little. However, you will hear the word god and a four letter word in the same sentence. You will also be offended. So if you are easily offended, just pass us by. This podcast is not for you our opinions are just that.
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Speaker 1:Hello, robert. What's up, buddy? Oh, you know, you are know, I'm always up.
Speaker 2:You are Look at here.
Speaker 1:So hey, v8, baby V8. V8. You listen. Sorry, I had to turn around there for a minute. I got very, very much the privilege as we get started here today. Today is June 1st, June 1st, june 1st, june 1st. This will drop on June 3rd, but June 1st is your day, my sobriety birthday. Yes, it is. I can't tell you how much of a privilege it is to be recording on your birthday.
Speaker 2:This is the first time. Well, we haven't done this for a year yet have we.
Speaker 1:This is number 48. Okay, we're going to record 49 in a little bit.
Speaker 2:I got 52 will be a year.
Speaker 1:Yes, 52 will be a year and I got a couple special ones. I think. I think they're worked out. Um, I've spoken to a couple people. I've got a couple special ones coming up.
Speaker 1:Uh, if everything works out I don't want to say and don't want to um, don't don't want to jinx it, but I think we got, we got a couple good ones coming up. But hey, I, I just got to tell you something, that is, you know, I, I get to introduce you and do this on your on the 21st at primary, but I want to do this today, I want to do it this morning. I have for you your 14th coin and I love this thing. So, happy birthday, brother. I love you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I love you too, buddy. Yeah, I'm going to take a picture.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to take a picture of that and put it up, just to show everybody that I'll put it up on Instagram so we can. Can I open it? Yeah, fuck, yeah, open it. Let me mute that mic, though, so you don't fucking that. Well, never mind, you already done it.
Speaker 2:Now, jesus christ that's one higher power, by the way anyways, this one I'll put it up on instagram.
Speaker 1:That's awesome that I it's pretty cool. I like that one. It's bill and bob, a picture of bill and bob and it's got.
Speaker 2:His birthday is 14 years and it's on the back of it, though, which I think it's the I think it's uh serenity, isn't it?
Speaker 1:no, is it the third step? No, what is it?
Speaker 2:well, no, it's not, it's, it's. It's the beginning of how it works really yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right thoroughly, yeah, I bought.
Speaker 1:I got that about three weeks ago, so I've had it here for a little bit and this morning I was. I was planning on giving it to you at primary and then, shit, I shit, I didn't even think about it. I knew your birthday was June 1st, but I didn't even think about today being June 1st. So I was like you know what? I want our audience to hear this and to thine own self be true To thine own self, be true baby that is plastered on my arm.
Speaker 2:That is good, yeah, congratulations brother, you know what I appreciate too, and I'm going to tell my wife to listen to this episode, because this morning I wake up and I get out there and I'm walking around. She's made coffee scratching my butt. You know the shorts on.
Speaker 1:She's scratching your butt or you are I'm scratching my butt.
Speaker 2:Oh, I just wanted to clarify that she goes hey come here and she opens up this box and she puts she goes, I'm getting ready to take a picture. She puts a what's that called A sash Satchel, satchel, whatever the thing you know that the women wear for the pageant. All right, whatever, honey. And I looked down and I said she pulls out some candles, we're going to put them on a cake. That's nice. If it was the right year, damn it. I said no, not with 13. That's a fucking jinx. Ain't happening, damn it.
Speaker 2:So next year, if she gets the right year, I'll look like an idiot.
Speaker 1:Damn it, bonnie. I'm sorry, I don't know what to tell you, honey, your husband's an asshole. But you got it right, because it's him.
Speaker 2:Well, hell you fucking talk about it all the. They just forget. They're terrible with dates Both my kids and my wife they're terrible. I'm pretty good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you know what, like I said, you are a privilege to know, you are a privilege to be around. You're an amazing man and I am a better man knowing you and I appreciate that. I appreciate everything you've done for me and my family and I love watching what you do for other people. It's absolutely an inspiration for me.
Speaker 1:So we're going to do a little birthday show and um birthday show and we got some guests that are going to be calling in and wishing you a happy birthday and from time to time here today and as long as, if you guys hear me distracted, it's because I'm calling the boys and telling them to call them, because they're all going to call and wish you a happy birthday. Be distracted is because I'm calling the boys and telling them to call them because they're all going to call and wish you a happy birthday. So if we get on a topic and and somebody calls and we get distracted, uh, that's what's going on, because everybody that's been on the show is going to be calling hello, nathan. Hey, hold on a second, hold on there, you go there, you go, nathan, you there. Well, sir, there he is how are you doing that?
Speaker 1:that's pretty cool I got it going through the my. You know I've only done this in the beginning, so I kind of texted everybody this morning said, hey, everybody call in when I text you so you can wish rob a happy birthday. So here you go, nathan happy birthday, rob, thank you.
Speaker 4:I appreciate that. Thank you for everything you do Help changing my life. Brother, my pleasure I appreciate you, you know.
Speaker 1:I thank you, nathan, for taking the time to call in today. You know I gave him his. We gave him his birthday chip a little bit early and so he, you know, I was so happy that. You know, I guess god works in a certain way, right, because our guests are showing up late today yeah so we decided to call.
Speaker 1:We decided to do the birth this one first, and which gave me the opportunity to have nathan and all the other guys call in before they all get into church. So you know what, nathan, thank you for calling man.
Speaker 2:Thank you, brother. I love you man, love you brother. See you on Wednesday or Monday, if not before, yeah. And then jujitsu practice Wednesday How's?
Speaker 1:that going, Nathan? How are you feeling with that?
Speaker 4:Going great If it wasn't. And then On my AA birthday sobriety birthday Rob took me to a fight and the whole team was there and stuff, and then that's when I really like wanted to start doing Jiu-Jitsu, and then Shit.
Speaker 1:Did I just hang up on him? Yep it, brandon you there yeah there he is, you're on, hit it, I'm on.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir first time caller, along with timeless damn it.
Speaker 1:what's happening? There you go, you're on're on Tell him.
Speaker 3:Happy birthday, Rob. Thank you, Brandon 14 years is a big deal, man. Yes, it is. That's awesome. Yes, it is. I'm glad that I met up with you and asked you to be my sponsor to change my life, man. I know God had a big part in it, but I appreciate the guidance he's given me.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you putting your trust in me. Hey, the guidance he's given me. I appreciate you putting your trust in me. Hey, by the way, I got tickets. Me and Logan are going to be at uh Justin's fight on the 14th.
Speaker 3:Nice yeah, the uh original uh opponent backed out and he got a new one. Good yeah, he's pretty pumped. Congratulations, man.
Speaker 2:Thank you, brandon pumped, but congratulations, brandon, thank you brandon, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Thank you, brother. Thanks buddy, all right later. All right, have a good one later you hung up on nathan I know I'm gonna call him back. I you know what.
Speaker 2:I'm very special individual, just so you know oh, I know you tell this is the first time.
Speaker 1:If ever in doubt, just ask this is the first time I've done this, so you're like a cop and a fireman you never have to.
Speaker 2:You never have to ask them what they do for a living. They're gonna fucking tell you nate that, sorry about that.
Speaker 1:Brandon was calling in. I went to put him on hold and hung up on you. So tell your. Tell that story again all right.
Speaker 4:yeah, I was like I was saying on my sobriety birthday, rob took me to a cage fight and the team we trained with was there. His son was fighting or doing a jiu-jitsu match and and um, you know, I had mentioned that I would want to get that, want to get in there and do that, and um, rob kept on kind of talking about doing it and then one day he said that he was going in, going to practice. I said, right on, come get me, I'll go or I'll never go. Yeah, he did, and I started doing it. He said just come get me.
Speaker 2:And Nathan's already competed, but he competed before me and kicked ass. I mean, I wish I had a video.
Speaker 1:How's that working out? With your mental state, though, nathan? Did you see a difference in you and how you felt, how you were approaching everything when you got back to rolling?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah definitely. It's, you know, kind of chasing a dream that I've always had, and just you know. But if I would have continued doing that, I would have never met my kid's mom and I had my kids so I don't regret not doing it back then, but I do you know did have regrets of not getting back into it awesome um I, but my mental state it's it's way different. I think I feel like the jujitsu I get. I almost get more out of jujitsu than I do out. Of you all know me.
Speaker 1:Nice, nice. We don't want to put anything against the meeting, but you know it goes back.
Speaker 2:And on that let me say this what Bonnie told me the other day. She, okay, I came home because after I dropped Nathan off I picked Nathan up. We go, and after I drop him off I call her and she says she just hit my door, smiling at me when you know my wife, like the cat, take the canary kind of smile. Okay, what's going on? She says the look on your face when you come back from jujitsu is the same, look the same light, as when you come back from doing step work with a man. It's the same look on your face. It's the same excitement. It's that same childlike, you know joy. She says I don't want you to stop doing this. So I understand what nathan's talking about.
Speaker 2:It is it's the same reason I go to. I've been going to the gym for two decades and it's the same thing I've always.
Speaker 1:That's why when nathan was here. Is he still here? Yeah, he's still on there right nathan yeah, when he was on the show and did his recording I was, like you ever thought about getting back on the mat. I'm glad to hear he is. And the other thing is I'm going to bring this up real fast I also said when he was talking about his kid's mom. I'm like, well, something's still there. And he's like, yeah, maybe, I hope so, Nathan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's the update on that?
Speaker 4:Is there something still there? Yeah, about a month and a half ago we got back together and we're. I didn't think I could ever love her more than I already did, and every day it seems to just get stronger.
Speaker 1:Promises baby promises.
Speaker 2:And she was at the competition when Nathan competed. It was awesome. Yeah, it's just, it's God promises. But just like Jeremy talked about the little clip, he said we have to do the work Right and Nathan's absolutely done it Done it. He's still in his 30s, so he's got time. I'm at the end of my compete days, but I can get a little bit while my son's up. He's a scrapper man. It's going to be good watching him.
Speaker 1:When do you fight against? When do you fight again?
Speaker 2:July 19th.
Speaker 1:We're at Stockton, I'll be there.
Speaker 2:We're all going to be competing then.
Speaker 4:You are going to compete. Then the other thing about jiu-jitsu you know not many people get to choke their sponsor?
Speaker 1:yeah, nice, and hey, they don't hold back.
Speaker 4:Maybe I should get back in there and vice versa, not many sponsors get to choke their sponsees, so there's many times you want to, but we just don't get to nice all the sponsees I want to choke aren't in there.
Speaker 1:Nathan was on point all right, nathan thanks, thanks, brother.
Speaker 2:Love you, man, very much.
Speaker 1:Love you, nathan, so happy for you, man, so happy for you. So, yeah, this has been fun. Like I said, this morning I started making a couple phone calls and I was hoping that a few of these guys weren't going to be in church so we can do this. So we got another one coming in right now. Hello, oh, my god, that's a sexy ass voice, you got going on. Who is?
Speaker 3:that I'm using my radio voice this morning boys, oh okay.
Speaker 2:He's using his porn voice.
Speaker 3:You're live here on KKWBR Recovery.
Speaker 1:So welcome into the birthday show from Mr Rob.
Speaker 3:Well, happy birthday, Rob.
Speaker 2:Thank you, brother. Now Aaron's been with me for a decade.
Speaker 1:You guys have been together like bubble gum on the bottom of your shoe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've been singing Hokey Pokey in the program since about I don't know what 2015?
Speaker 1:2015 yeah, explain that real fast, aaron. We're gonna get you on the show to talk about that, but now that you brought that up, explain that for a minute.
Speaker 3:Pokey, pokey recovery uh, pokey, pokey recovery, you know get, get about year, year and a half in the program, then just had to go back out. You know, left leg in, left leg out, when you're in, when you're out, yeah, one year in one year out. Yeah, trying to figure things out. Where are you at right now? Just over 60 days again, atta boy.
Speaker 2:But his mom and dad are down right now from Pennsylvania. He's on point right now.
Speaker 1:Putting in the work. Putting in the work. Very happy for you, aaron. Love you, brother. Love you guys too. All right, love you, brother. Love you guys too. All right, take care, brother Love you buddy.
Speaker 3:Happy birthday, Rob. Thank you, brother, I love you.
Speaker 1:Do you know how many years it is, aaron, 14 years. Sorry, bonnie.
Speaker 2:Love you.
Speaker 3:Bonnie got it wrong this morning.
Speaker 2:Aaron, she got it wrong.
Speaker 3:What did Bonnie say?
Speaker 2:She got a whole little package with it. She was going to let it happen with a cake, but she had 13. I said I'll wear it, but you're not taking no pictures until you have the right year.
Speaker 3:Lucky 13.
Speaker 2:That was last year.
Speaker 1:Is she there?
Speaker 2:No, she's not here.
Speaker 1:She's at home, she is going to listen to this one.
Speaker 3:But there is a special place in heaven for a woman like Bonnie. Remember that.
Speaker 2:No doubt about it, but there is a special place in heaven for a woman like Bonnie. Remember that. Oh, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3:Anybody that can put up with me, not because of Rob, not because of Rob, because she has to put up with the rest of us.
Speaker 1:You ain't lying. She has to give her time to let him.
Speaker 2:When we get Aaron on here, if he does tell that part he can bring it when I've had to take Bonnie to help my backup. All right, brother.
Speaker 1:Love All right brother, Love you, Love you buddy, Love you too. Love you guys. See you, that was fun, all right, so I'm going to try and get a couple more, but, like I said, I want to play that one again because I don't know if we got to hear the whole thing to begin with.
Speaker 5:Hold on Recovery as you know, everybody's injured in some sort of way. It's a lonely road. It's only you. No matter how much help you have, or PT you have, if your tendons go or whatever the heck happens, you still have to put in the work every day and endure the pain and manage the pain and mitigate it. It can be quite lonely, but I always found that my daughter and my family I see their faces when I get better. I could stand up, let's say, or not pee in a jar. I could get in a wheelchair Any sort of milestone I'd see their faces get a little bit less horrified, even relieved, even quite joyful. Even so, as much damage as I did to my family and their hearts, me getting better can relieve them of that burden. So it was an easy one-way road to recover and that's why I recovered fast and I attribute it to my love for my family.
Speaker 1:You know, and, like I said, we're going to get interrupted here in just a minute. So if one of the things that I took from that is when I was listening to that and I heard him say that the pain that he saw in his family's face start to disappear upon here's, here we go, here we go. Hello, mr Jason. Welcome on to the recovery unfiltered podcast again, apparently, god bless it hey hey morning, mr jason.
Speaker 4:Welcome on the recovery and filter podcast thank you, can you hear me? Oh, everybody can hear you hey, just wanted to say a special happy birthday to my sponsor and sponsor of many, rob.
Speaker 2:Thank you brother. Thank you very much how you doing.
Speaker 1:I'm doing great. Are you actually in the Valley and not up camping fishing, hiking in the middle of?
Speaker 4:nowhere. Well, yeah, I don't want to make this about me, but I'm in town.
Speaker 1:No, I wouldn't have had you call me if I didn't want to make it about you I haven't been caught up with you in a little while.
Speaker 2:That's a good man right here.
Speaker 1:Oh, buddy, I you know what. Here's the thing I go over. He works over in the bay and I go over once a week and I got the opportunity to have dinner with him one time. Now he's ghosting me every time I go over there. I swear to god, it's like a blind date and he never wants to see me again, I get it, jason, I absolutely get it damn it.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, buddy, I still owe you dinner but the 14th, right there was brandon's his kids fight. But we're gonna be, we're gonna do the go to the lake, yeah, the houseboat right, we'll get to see jason there we'll do all that together.
Speaker 1:So, jason, thanks for calling in brother love you.
Speaker 4:Thank you, brother, I appreciate you yeah, I love you, yeah, I love you guys.
Speaker 1:Happy birthday Rob.
Speaker 2:Thank you man.
Speaker 1:Anyways, that's um when he talks about as he was going through his recovery and seeing the joy on his family's face, or that pain in his family's face disappear as the milestones as his milestones come up. I'm thinking, you know, like I said, I didn't listen to it originally to get anything else, except I just listened to Joe Rogan, right? But man listening to that, it just kept going back how that physical recovery that he went through, even the mental recovery, is no different than what we go through. To me it's almost identical.
Speaker 2:A lot of similarities.
Speaker 1:So much right, Because I was very lonely during my recovery, well, still recovery.
Speaker 2:But having a support group is important as you said, but we have to do the work Unless someone's been through what you've been through it's hard, for sure. You can't just, you know Right.
Speaker 1:No, and it's like I said, it's one of those things that we are when we're away from. We can't be around a group all the time, right, right, and most of our hardest work we do is when we're alone. That's when the, that's when the war. Anybody can perform in front of somebody, right? Anybody can't. You know, they say what makes the difference between an okay athlete and a pro athlete? It's what they do when nobody's watching right is the the work they put in when nobody's watching right. That's the difference between an average athlete and a great athlete, right, or a pro athlete. That's the difference between an average athlete and a great athlete, right or a pro athlete. That's the difference of what, and it's no difference to me and I say the same thing.
Speaker 1:Well, I feel the same way when it comes to this recovery, when we say this how free do you want to be right? If you want the freedom, if you want that serenity, if you want that peace, you have to put in the work. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. When you're by yourself, when you're traveling, when you're not around people watching you, when you're not around your family, and when you do those things and you get back around your family, your family's going to see the difference in you and what you're doing. They're going to see those milestones, you know I, so I you hear me say this so many times that live in amends that we do right to our wives and to our families. And you know we're going to get more and more into families here in the next few episodes because I think we got it worked out that my family is going to start coming on 50, 51 or 52 is going to be my daughters, my wife and Rob's wife. Uh, we have our 52, 52nd episode coming up, which is our birthday episode.
Speaker 1:Right, our, our recovery, unfiltered birthday episode and I want to make it's amazing how we, how we put this together after a year. Right, it's god, it's 1000 god, from the very beginning but on your healing thing, let me bring this up.
Speaker 2:I got a call not what was yesterday, saturday, friday evening afternoon-ish, brandon Gonzalez called me. He had got, he had a bad hip Yep, due to my hip. So he went in and he was just calling me. He was on day 17. He was on day and he was talking about this ache and then he started bringing back, you know. Oh, then I started bringing back Because you forget me.
Speaker 2:It's been a year for me, just over a year, you know to get back to me from you know, and and a lot of the memories. But in what they don't like, you talked about the shit that you don't say, except Brandon, when you know, the only reason I'm after the first week I use that Walker was just to uh, uh me. Wow, rob, you're looking amazing, you know. Just, you're healing, great. But they didn't see monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, when I'm crawling on the floor because I pushed myself too hard.
Speaker 2:You know, like I do, yeah, but we all put in that extra work because I want, I wanted to be on the mat with my son, I wanted, you know, and then, right, getting back from cancer, right, then, okay, then I had to get the hip done, so that pushed me back another year. But you got to put in the work you have. If you're not going to, it doesn't matter how much support you got, doesn't matter. Uh, if you've got the best advice, the best doctors, the best whatever. If you don't have the desire, the willingness, it ain't gonna happen nope, not at all.
Speaker 2:You know, not at all, but again, there's going to be down times there's, oh my god there's times just like, fuck, is this even worth it? Right, man, I can't do this and you're, but then that's where that support group comes right, that's where if someone's you know been through a thousand percent.
Speaker 1:You know, and I've probably said this, and it's this isn't a poor me, this isn't anything but I, I haven't had a sober day without pain, right how many surgeries have you had now? I've had four surgeries since I got, since you know that's four and three April 10th yeah.
Speaker 1:So putting my hip back together, my two back surgeries and my, and I'm probably going to have to have another one. So do I say that for poor me, fuck. No, I did that damage back when I was 18 years old and I got in a bad accident because of my drinking, you know. Then, three weeks later, I get another. Actually, four and a half weeks later, I get another, just horrible accident, because of my drinking. So am I, you know, now that I'm God's putting me back together. I remember all those things. Right, it is what it is.
Speaker 1:I did all this to my body, the years of being overweight, the years of misuse of my body, just the years. And you know, and I'm and I'm okay with it. I come into peace and don't get me wrong, it's frustrating, buddy. I'm going to tell you that daily pain is. I mean, it's, it's brutal, but I I've been very fortunate that I have a wife that understands. You know, I don't get me that. I have a wife that understands. There's days that I think that she gets frustrated, that I struggle, but I don't stop. I continue to do what I have to do. I got to do stuff around the house. I got it the same way as I got to get into this book every day. It's the same thing, whether it's mental, physical, no matter what it is If you don't put in the work, you're going to fucking die Period.
Speaker 2:And you won't get the results that you want. What?
Speaker 1:did you tell me the other day you start dying from the ground up.
Speaker 2:Death begins in the legs. Death starts in the legs Right.
Speaker 1:And I'm midway, right In my lower back, in my hips. I don't put in the work I need to start working out here. You know there's just a lot of things, but you know. But I'll go work outside all damn day and put eight hours in outside doing shit I shouldn't be doing doing. But then I'm in misery for, you know, three days because of it.
Speaker 2:But see that. But I enjoyed that. But, like I said, when I would with a hip, because I mean I was headed back to the mat, you know, with my son, and then, well, I promised myself I'd get a new hip when he got done with wrestling, wrestling Right. So I did, and he's Dad, I'm going to do jiu-jitsu. So he started doing that, Like here's my other opportunity. But now and I was telling Brandon friday evening, now my left because I'm not with me and my family have not been limber, the limber, you know, shortstop we're not very limber, but my left hip, the titanium one, is stronger, yeah, more flexible, all right, than the right one. Right, because I've worked that. I mean I'm left side dominant anyway, but I worked that son of a bitch extra and now I gotta catch the right side up. But what a gift, right, because I put in the work.
Speaker 1:You have to, you have to. But here's the thing, and I want to read this one thing this is another part of what jeremy said later on. It says people need to suffer to see the real love. What he's talking about is that if we never suffered a little bit, we don't understand the value or the we don't appreciate. We don't appreciate Any gifts Nothing.
Speaker 2:That's why God makes us work for these things.
Speaker 4:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 2:You know these prayers that we try to get answered the seventh step, the third step, and then we do those steps, then we do the actual steps afterwards. Then we would appreciate If it's just given to us, we would never appreciate I wouldn't.
Speaker 2:I know that I wouldn't I would take it for granted, you know, and that's when we talk about the mountaintop experiences, which are beautiful, right, love them. The view is great, the air is crisp, but nothing grows up there, nothing. The growth takes place in the valley, yes, and you must experience both to appreciate absolutely and we have. I mean.
Speaker 1:So that's when you know what bible talks about, but we still go and we still go through them we go through those peaks and we go through those valleys. Those valleys are brutal, but it's because we put in the work to make that peak that we know. When we start to slide off that backside and we see that valley coming, we know fuck, here it goes. I better put on my boots.
Speaker 2:We got to do some work here. Sometimes they're they're a self-inflicted yes sir, and sometimes they're just life on life's terms, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean daily. Daily, I deal with that Right.
Speaker 2:Scott says why keep putting one foot?
Speaker 1:in front of the other. Just do what you're. Just do what you're expected to do right now. Right, this is all I'm expected to do right now. I'm expected to sit right here to talk to you on this podcast that we're reaching out to people. What we do after this podcast, who knows? God will show me what to do afterwards, right, but we put in everything that comes in front of us, what happens in front of us, we deal with it. We deal with it the way we know how to deal with it.
Speaker 2:But now looking, but now we got, now I've got 14 years to look back on and the good, the bad, the ugly. I'm so grateful for all of those to get me to here. Absolutely, I'm. I mean I'm grateful for the work. I'm glad you know, and the work was where. What I'm saying is the work was worth it. Yes, the work was absolutely. I can't. I don't know if I've ever asked people this. I mean, is there any time you ever put in, you know, put in the effort, that it wasn't worth it? That's always. Is the juice worth the squeeze? Even if I didn't accomplish my goal, say where you're going. Your goal is to stand on the top of the podium, but you didn't cheat yourself, you didn't cheat your opponent. You did the best you could. You didn't beat yourself.
Speaker 1:They had to beat you Right and I you know what you need to work on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I've always said that, even back coaching football Make sure the effort you put in before, but it's the effort that people don't see, right, if you're not doing that, then don't bitch.
Speaker 1:No and 1,000%. My grandson, I mean, he wants to be the best at baseball. But I tell him the same thing. What are you doing when nobody's watching buddy? What are you doing when nobody's watching? How many tees are you taking?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yep, what are you doing? Nobody's watching, I mean, if you want to be the best.
Speaker 2:That's why he said that, because Logan stopped jujitsu when he was real little maybe six, maybe a little older than that and then he went and didn't play baseball for a while and then he quit baseball because he's not going to be a baseball player. He was, you know, he's a great athlete, but I had everything in the effort. Now then he starts wrestling his freshman year. Now, watching him do that to this, right, people don't see what he does, right, I do. That's why he. That's why now he's on top of the podiums, right, because he's put in that effort for these years and he puts in all the his own diet, he does his own cooking, he shops for himself. I pay for the bills most of them, but you know, but that's what he's supposed to, but he paid for all that and he's paid his damn dues, right you know, um, and that's like I said.
Speaker 1:That's where I kind of wanted to go with this. The recovery is recovery period. It doesn't matter if it's physical right.
Speaker 2:Certain ingredients you must have. You know there's a lot there. There are a lot of uh miscellaneous, but there are certain ingredients, if you want to be successful, that are the same right physical mental and it does it like you know.
Speaker 1:If you that that episode with jeremy on joe rogan is is, um, I don't know. I, like I said the whole time I was listening to it, I I know the pain. The guy was squashed by a snow cap, for god's sakes, and if you don't know what that is, look it up up. That is a massive piece of machinery and he was smashed on the ice, not the snow, right? If you listen to him explain it. If it would have been on the powder he wouldn't have been as bad, but he was literally on the ice. When that snow cap went over the top of him, did it track over him? The track went right over the top of him, full-length. The track over him. The track went right over the top of him, full length body Full length body.
Speaker 1:Oh no, kidding, From foot to head. From foot to head, not side to side, foot to head Right. So every 36 crushed bones in his body Right. And listen to him how he came out of that recovery and his mental state of mind when he's coming out of that. I just equated the whole thing for my, my recovery of my alcohol and talking about.
Speaker 1:There's another section in there where he talks about being with other people that have been through the same thing and the community that he has around him now of people that have went through that same squashed, that same multiple broken bones, and the group of people that he can talk to in the group. It's incredible. And the other thing is is his outreach to other people doing the same thing. I mean, the whole thing was just this recovery. It doesn't matter what you're doing, whether it's alcohol, drugs, broken bone, whatever it's doing, it's a mental state, and then you've got to reach out and help people, to continually help yourself.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Well, I do the same thing with cancer.
Speaker 1:For sure, my doctor gives out my number.
Speaker 2:But here's something that God gave me a gift when I was going through it, when I was foreman, where Brad is now. Brad knows the story because he works with her. My wife knows the story, uh, because he works with her. My wife knows the story because her and her and my wife are fitbit buddies, but my waymaster, uh, well, they're their fitbit buddy, her and sherry, uh, but sherry's having headaches. She was my waymaster right and she kept.
Speaker 2:You know, you know me. I say, listen, if you're not gonna do something about it, quit bitching at me, right? Well, she had a golf ball taken out of her head at the same time. I was going through cancer, oh boy. So, all right, I had to remember, like I said, I couldn't. I couldn't sleep laying back because I choked to death. She couldn't, she had to sleep at a certain angle or the pressure would rupture her. So we would text each other hey, you get any sleep last night?
Speaker 2:no, you know, and then right, but at the times I would use your buddy but at the times I would be down yeah man like I, because that things I wouldn't tell my wife like man, I just don't, you know eight hours of chemo coming back. You feel like god's like I don't, she's like I had chemo go. I just don't know if I can do this. You know I would text that kind of shit and she's like you have to.
Speaker 2:You've got wife, you've got kids you have to do this, I have to well, I'm gonna, she goes, I'm gonna get back to work, and so you know, and then the times when she would go and come, know, and I said, well, you know, and I was 149 pounds, I said I'll tell you what. You still help you lose, you help me, but but that, having someone who kind of knew what I was going through, we could. You know, there was a certain yep dude that helped more than almost anything.
Speaker 1:It like I said, and that's what we've talked about so many times with our group you know, get with somebody and, yeah, be with a group of people, get into your AA, and it doesn't matter whether you're dealing with a physical, a mental, whatever you're dealing with, there's other people that have gone through it. You're not alone. Keep God in the middle, by the way.
Speaker 2:Yes, and you're not alone, whatever you're going through, whatever you're doing. But if you are alone and you walk through it and God gives you the victory. Absolutely you're doing anybody, but if you are alone and you walk through it and god gives you the victory.
Speaker 1:Absolutely go find someone, so they're not.
Speaker 2:Yep, go help and you will find a joy that you can't. You can't get any other place you know, like these men that have been calling right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, it's incredible what we have, and I mean there's 27 other people, 27 other people that have it, you know, with everybody. But I promise you, you've all given me right, more than I've ever, oh, and I know that received more, more than I've ever given you, oh and.
Speaker 2:I know that feeling I've received more than I've ever given.
Speaker 1:I just finished with Blake. He got through his 12 steps and I'm going to tell you right now, I needed him probably more than he needed me during that period of time.
Speaker 2:I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:I needed that. I needed that refresher on everything all those steps, oh my gosh. You know, I am consumed with what I have to do here for work. I'm consumed with that, and I'm consumed with stuff around the house and I'm consumed with stuff. And then you get to that point in your life and like I need me, I need me. The fuck I do. I need to give to somebody else. That's what I needed to do. Yeah Right, I kept telling myself I need time.
Speaker 2:So now, now, when you hear that you know time for me is fucked, it's not healthy. We look back when we're little kids and Christmas is coming or your birthday is coming. You're just waiting to receive Right. And then you know your parents will throw that quote at you. You know, jesus says it's more blessed to give than to receive I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:But now it is Don mean lord. Now I know what you mean. Yeah, and like I said, I give it. I love to give it at work, I love to give it everywhere I get and when I feel that mental thought of mine that says I need me time, I I got to get out of that head because that me time causes problems. Right when I get inside my own head I can't do it.
Speaker 2:They don't go there alone either.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's dangerous to be dangerous, dangerous, dangerous, dangerous. All right, mr rob, this is shorty. Happy fucking birthday. You midget motherfucker, I fucking love you. I love you too god damn it. Love you brother, love you buddy is it on the toilet?
Speaker 4:don't you use that as your?
Speaker 1:meditation thank you for joining us today.
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Speaker 1:Hey, thanks, rob. Come back next week and hopefully something will be different and something will sink in. Take care, this has been Recovery Unfiltered, thank you.