The Chappell Roan Autopsy: Death of the Midwest Princess

The "Midwest Princess" was born on a golf course, and her "protest" just got bought by a billionaire.

This week, I am performing a surgical autopsy on the spectacular collapse of Chappell Roan. We’re moving past the indie-darling branding to look at the clinical receipts: from the hotel lobby outburst that left an 11-year-old child in tears to the multi-million dollar MAC Cosmetics deal that links her "activism" to a corporate heir cited 450 times in the Epstein Files.

How does a "protest artist" refuse the White House over "values" while signing checks from the very systems she claims to despise? I'm deconstructing the weaponization of "boundaries," the "trailer park" childhood that was actually a country-club resort, and why the fandom is finally hitting the exit.

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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to another episode of Scandal Queens. It is me, yes, E. B, the host you love or love to hate, and this week, you already know. If you follow me on social media, if you have read the name of the episode, um, it's the week some of you will have been dreading. Yeah, you will have been dreading this week. That's right, we're getting into it. The country's most popular Midwest princess, Chapel Roan. She broke the internet over the last week with a story with a story of a security guard gone uh absolutely rogue. Um, and now she's on the tip of everyone's tongue for a completely different reason. Who is Chapel Roan? Who is this person? Uh is she really this like rags to riches, hardworking lesbian icon for the ages? Or uh maybe have we all been fooled by the Taylor Swift grift once again? I'm gonna be breaking it all down today, and I will be helping you deconstruct the cult of celebrity one segment at a time. But before we dump into the deep end with Chapel Roan, let's talk about the biggest celebrity stories happening this week with a quick temperature check. Right off the top, FKA Twigs is back in the headlines this week, this time facing down an NDA that she alleges was forced, she was forced to sign or pressured to sign by her ex, Shia LaBeouf. The singer and artist whose real name is Talia Barnett, uh, she accused her ex, Shia, of trying to bully her into silence and shake her down financially with an official NDA. According to news statements from her attorney, Twiggs claims that LaBeuf made a secret arbitration demand last year in 2025, um, demanding money from her from what he essentially claimed was like a breach of their agreement, which I don't really understand because I don't know how you have to sign an how you can enforce an NDA on a situation which is overall super illegal. I I guess it's over their settlement. I'm I'm not really sure, but Twiggs' attorney responded saying that it was just more of the same old, same old. They he said that you know Shia LaBeouf is an aggressive, controlling bully. He uses the courts to maintain control of and to try to bully uh Twiggs, Talia Barnett. Um, and it is just just what the kind of behavior he's always displayed towards the singer. As someone looking at it with a small amount of professional knowledge and experience, it does look like what you see, like coercive control through the courts, this like arbitrary arbitration control, um, legal control. Uh it's the abusers will use court systems. So you see this in the family court a lot. Um, and or you know, I guess family court is also divorce court. Like when a woman chooses to leave a man, you'll see if it's an abusive man, very often you'll see them use the courts against the woman, especially if they have a really big financial upper hand. Uh that's why so many of the Epstein victims didn't come forward for so long. You know, it's all it's all that same kind of coercive control. But essentially, it's it looks like potentially allegedly Shy could be using the court system to continue to punish someone who's escaped him, which is what these people do. So um, I'd be interested to know what you think. Uh, in your eyes, is this just another narcissistic trap? Is this more narcissistic behavior? What do you think? Uh, you because you might see something that I don't let me know over on Instagram at ScandalQeens Podcast, or you can send me a text. Just click the link at the top of the episode description. Next up, Kim Novak slams Sydney Sweeney. This is such a good one. Uh, Hollywood icon Kim Novak is in the headlines because she slammed Sydney Sweeney. I like absolutely wiped her clean. Um, and that is all coming down to this new film, Scandalous. And scandalous, it it was it's been on the production table for years. It's been canned, I think, once or twice, uh, but it's back up now and it's got Sydney Sweeney attached to it, playing Kim Novak, and it's supposed to detail the relationship between Kim Novak and Sammy Davis Jr. because they had this romantic trist together and and they had this really deep love connection. Um, but when it was announced that Sidney Sweeney would be playing the part of Kim Novak, Kim kind of went nuclear when she was asked about it. Uh she went straight to the press and she made it clear that she's completely unhappy with Sweeney as the current casting of her in the role, and that she never would have chosen Sweeney. She literally said that Sweeney was wrong for the role, and that she had asked that had she been asked, she this this is the direct quote, never would have approved of the casting. And then she went further. Okay, Kim wasn't happy saying, I don't like the casting. She she was gonna she was gonna really drive home what she thought of Sydney Sweeney and this whole thing, um, saying that, you know, uh Sydney Sweeney's cleavage sticks out so far above her waist, so far past her waist, that it just wouldn't be appropriate to play me. And then she said, Um, as to the film portraying her relationship with Sammy Davis Jr., she said, I'm afraid it's gonna portray things too sexual. And you could pretty much see that from the casting of Sydney Sweeney. Um, because, and this is again a direct quote, there's no way it wouldn't be a sexual relationship because Sydney Sweeney looks sexy all the time. She's totally wrong to play me. So who's to say what's gonna happen for this movie scandalous? Uh will Sydney Sweeney stay attached to it. I have no idea. It really looks like whoever is managing Sydney Sweeney has this really weird fixation on putting her in the roles that are the complete opposite of everything that she is. Um I don't know what they're trying to prove, but I'm not sure if they realize they're not proving it. It's it's it's working to dismal effect, but uh we'll see what happens. It doesn't seem like Kim Novak wants anyone to see this movie. Uh I certainly will not be seeing it, and I'm not interested in anything that Sydney Sweeney is in. And last but not least, it looks like another one of the Duggar Boys from TLC's infamous reality TV show family, The Duggars, 19 kids in counting, has been arrested. Yes, that's right. This time it's 31-year-old father of four, Joseph Duggar, who was arrested Wednesday, March 18th in Tauntatown, Arkansas, for the molestation of a nine-year-old girl in Florida. Um, this is this is a case that happened, I think, about six years ago. Um, the girl's about 14 or 15 year olds now, but it's absolutely horrific. Uh, according to the affidavit that was obtained by the Daily Mail, who has got a really in-depth deep dive on this, uh, Joseph was accused of several incidents of sexual abuse against a nine-year-old child, which took place during a family vacation in Florida. I'm not going to detail those. If you really think you need the details of that, you can go and read the Daily Mail's breakdown of the affidavit. Don't need to get it from me. And while all of that is horrific enough, what makes it even more horrifying is that Joseph's wife, Kendra Duggar, has now also been arrested. Not in relation to this specific nine-year-old, but in apparently in relation to four other counts of second degree endangering the welfare of a minor and four more counts of second degree false imprisonment, which we're not really sure about yet. Um, this isn't, again, new for the Duggar family who have already produced one pedophile son, Joshua Duggar, who is currently serving a 12-year sentence for the receipt of and possession of CSAM. Yeah, I'm just ugh, the this uh this family, the rabbit hole is so deep. You can go, I'm not gonna go into it here. You can go and look into Joshua Duggar's history, things the parents said in defense of him, his Republican father specifically. Uh their daughter, Jana, was also charged with child endangerment in 2021 because while she was babysitting someone's kids, I guess she just let it wander away. And uh someone just found the kid uh wandering outside. But there's there's there's a clear and obvious pattern with the Duggar family, and it's one that's just horrifically common in these closed, regressive, fundamentalist Christian communities. You see it all the time in the Mormon church, uh, the fundamentalist and the the run-of-the-mill everyday one. The Mormon church has a whole um like established protocol for handling child abuse because it happens so often that they have a whole protocol that they go through and that church members go through to keep it from being prosecuted. It's absolutely awful. Um it's the kind these these places are just the kind of environments where predators gravitate towards. Uh, it gives them easy access to kids who like cannot be cared for by parents because you got 19 kids. Two parents cannot look after 19 children, you're leaving children to raise children. Easy prey for predators. Um, and there are also systems that easily excuse and defend this behavior. So uh Josh Duggar, or sorry, Joseph Duggar is just the latest legacy in his family's long and torrid history of questionable child rearing and pedophiles. Uh, and he is currently in jail awaiting trial. He faces charges of lewd and lascivious behavior involving unlawful sexual activity with a minor, that's in Florida, and now in Arkansas as well since his arrest for that. Um, he's got four more additional charges of second degree endangering the welfare of a minor and four counts of false imprisonment, just like his wife Kendra. Um, if convicted, Duggar could face anywhere from 25 to life, according to the legal statutes of Florida. I'm sure he'll face a lot less than that. Like I said, his brother is serving a 12-year sentence at the moment for child pornography. Um, but good news, his show that he's on, Jesus, counting on, it's called counting on, uh, has now been removed from both HBO Max and Discover Plus in the U.S. But some people in the UK and Canada say they can still see it. So I, you know, we'll see what happens, we'll see what unfolds. Hopefully, he pays the penalty for what he's done. Sounds absolutely horrific. Um, and I hope all the children involved are able to get some justice and some peace. All right, all right, let's get into it. Chapelone is fucked up. That is right. Chapelone, everyone's favorite, outspoken LGBTQ pop star, has become anathema to the internet. Seemingly overnight. To her fans, it seems like it's overnight. Um, but as we'll as we'll get into, it's definitely not. Um, and it all started in Brazil at a luxury hotel where celebrities and guests were staying for the infamous Lollapalooza festival. Um the drama all kicked off when Catherine Harding, who is one of Jude Law's exes, got on social media and essentially said a pop star's security detail um accosted my daughter, screamed at my daughter, uh chided my daughter, whatever, made my daughter cry because my daughter just wanted to catch a glimpse, see, appreciate, say hello to her favorite pop star. Now, this caught like wildfire and it immediately attached itself to Chapel Rone. Now, this 11-year-old girl that the security guard approached and made cry. Uh, she is the child of Jude Law. Uh crazy. I didn't know Jude Law an 11-year-old child, but here we are. Um, this is Jude Law's daughter, but she was there at the hotel with her stepfather Georgino, who's a football player, and her mother Catherine Harding, who's made videos. Georgino, I I actually think it was Georgino was the first one to make the post about this, but anyway, it took took the internet by storm. Just gets absolutely crazy. Um, and it's been super muddied up, right? Because while the story is essentially security guard approaches a little girl and says something to her that makes her cry and keeps her away from some pop star, the the story's changed a million times. The hotel came out very quickly and said it was not our security guard, it was Chaperone's security guard. Chaperone was saying right away, this is not my security guard. Lollapalooza was like, This is not our security guard. Now the security guard says he's Sabrina Carpenter's security guard. It's all very muddy. We don't really know what happened, but essentially, little kid gets yelled at. 11-year-old saw pop star that she likes at a hotel where everyone's getting ready to go to this big music festival, and little girl cried because the security guard told her to fuck off. Whoever security guard it was, he was obviously there hired. It's just crazy, absolutely crazy, whatever. Little girl crying, internet and uproar. So people who didn't like Chapel already, they saw it as another example of spoiled entitled outbursts, right? Because we've seen this several times. The story with this kid was just days after all, after this event in Paris, where Chapel had gone to a very upscale, very famous celebrity eatery in Paris during Fashion Week, and she had thrown a fit when she came out of this very famous celebrity restaurant during Fashion Week, and when she was getting photographed by paparazzi, and she put her phone in their faces and she was saying all this stuff. All this happens just days before this thing with the kid happens. So people who didn't like her kicked off a storm on the internet and they were like, look, it's Chapel Roan days later, days after Paris, throwing this huge fit, being nasty, being entitled, da da da da da da. Fans obviously defending it. Everyone's trying to figure out what's going on with the story. Chapel gets on Instagram the next day and she films this. I'll put it on the Patreon. I'm not going to play the clip here. I'll put it on the Patreon. But she essentially she films this video in bed, smirking. Where she what it boils down to is she's like, I didn't even see the kid. I don't know what happened. That's not my personal security guard. I didn't hire that security guard. Sorry. Well, she doesn't even say sorry. She's just like, not my problem. I didn't do it. The video comes off very smug. If you're if you're someone who's not completely bedazzled by Chapel, it comes off as very smug. It comes off as just like maybe even a bit like duping delight. It's it's not good. It doesn't, it doesn't look good. And even some of her fans were upset by the video because they were like, you couldn't even sit up in bed and just say sorry to this little girl, because that's what it ultimately came down to was this little girl. It was a shitstorm. It kicked off a tremendous shitstorm for Chapel, and she ends up getting canceled. Okay, this has all happened in the last week. She gets canceled from Lollapalooza. The mayor of Rio de Janeiro announces officially, he's like, You can't go. You can't come to the music festival. You're an asshole to your fans. You can't go. So that just kicks the hive even further. And Chapel has to get on again. She gets on Instagram again and makes another video where she's like, It's weird. It's weird for you to approach someone you don't know in public and ask for a picture or ask for an autograph. She's just basically like just calling her fans gross and weird for asking her for pictures, and we're basically like, you should just treat me like an absolutely normal person and never approach me or speak to me ever, which is just delusional. It's delusional because, like, you're a celebrity, you are a public figure. You cannot become a public figure and not interact with the public. That's absolutely crazy. But Chapel did what she does best in this second video, and she was essentially like, These are my boundaries. On and on and on about her boundaries. It was the wrong strategy. It was the wrong strategy. Why? Um, because some of us know weaponized therapy speak when we see it. Okay, some of us have actually done the work and we know what actual boundaries are, and uh what Chapel was doing, basically telling people like you can't come around to me. And we've seen there have been multiple videos leaked since of her sending her security after people filming her in public, even if they're yards and yards and yards away, which we'll talk about a little more in depth. Um, but she she weaponizes therapy speak. And she's like, These are my boundaries, these are my boundaries, these are my boundaries. But here's the thing Chapel's idea of boundaries, as we have learned in the last week, is not boundaries, it's controlling other people's behavior. But that's not what boundaries are. Boundaries are limits that we put on ourselves or lines that we draw around our own needs and behaviors. So, like, for example, I can say my boundary is having a private relationship, right? I won't be in a relationship with anyone who's posting our relationship on a public social media platform. Okay, that's a boundary where I'm saying I am not going to be in a relationship with a person who does that. But this is not how Chapel talks about boundaries. And that's like one of these big red flags. We're gonna get into some way worse stuff that's come up since, but that's been the biggest red flag around this conversation with her and this 11-year-old kid. It's just like it's my boundaries, but the way she talks about boundaries is completely different from what I just told you. The way she sees a boundary is like, let's say she was in a relationship. In Chapel's mind, a boundary is I don't want my relationship being filmed and posted publicly, so whoever I'm in a relationship with, you're not gonna do that. Okay, so the expectation is on the other person to change a behavior versus Chapel just not even engaging with something that she knows she doesn't want or that is bad for her. Do you see the difference? I don't know if that's a good example, but essentially that's that's boundaries aren't to control other people. Your boundary is not sending a security guard to go and talk to someone yards away and to like threaten them and make them take their phone down, right? That's not what boundaries are. A boundary is an invitation for you to act according to your needs, right? So you would tell someone, like, my boundary is don't do this, don't hit me, right? If you do hit me, I will leave, right? That's a boundary. And this isn't new, right? This is a pattern that we've seen over and over and over again with Chapel, this weaponization of words like boundary. She misuses the word when she really means to use a word that represents control, and then she cries and hides a bit behind that word like a victim, right? Because when she says, Oh, my boundaries, suddenly you're the victim and the other person is violating. When you say that, when you go, oh, my boundaries, you make the other person a violator, right? So she hides behind these words like a victim when she's rightfully cra called out for like rude entitled behaviors, and it's incredibly manipulative. And it's a tactic you see a lot with covert or soft narcissists who ta-da also play the victim when they are called to accountability. And there's been so many arguments against that. People are like, well, she has a right to not want that. Well, yeah, sure. If Chapel wants to live her life as a private citizen, she absolutely is entitled to do that. It seems like that would be the healthier alternative for her. She's absolutely entitled to live her life however she wants to lead it. But what she cannot do, however, is put herself in the role of a public figure, again, consciously and intentionally, and then claim she doesn't want the public involved in her life in any way. That's not how it works. If you want to be a public figure, you have to learn to deal with the public. Just like if I wanted to be a waitress, I have to learn how to speak nicely to people at tables, right? Right? If she was such a working class person, which again we're about to get into, you'd think she'd know that. That's just the way it is. I'm sorry, that's the trade-off. If you want to be a public figure, you have to work with the public, which means getting your picture taken, getting filmed when you're in a public space, like in airports, just basic customer service skills from basic customer service job, which would have been so helpful for Chapel, I think. But it doesn't look like she has much of that kind of uh work experience, despite what she's told us. Oh yes, you heard that correctly as well. It looks it looks like um the Midwest Princess might have sold us a pretty big lie when she sold us the Rags to Riches storyline, fantasy, to all of her fans, to anybody who wanted to listen. That's probably been the biggest result out of this. That's why we had to talk all that nonsense about the 11-year-old, which I really don't care that much about. We're now going to get to the real meat of the episode, and that is that Chapel Roan has lied about her background. She straight up lied about her background, and this whole idea that she was just the struggling, couldn't eat, had to really fight her way to the top artist. Because as the diggers found out, as this scandal with the 11-year-old got bigger and bigger with every video excuse Chapel made, um, we found out now that the Midwest princess didn't have quite the Midwestern upbringing she claimed to have. That's right, despite selling fans on the idea that she was once a struggling artist who couldn't afford health care, uh, we now know that the Pop Sensation was actually a much-beloved child of an obscenely wealthy family. Uh-huh. Kaylee Amstutz, that's her real name, Kaylee Amstutz, uh, of the Amstutz family, is actually, it turns out, one of the most successful and well-connected families in Missouri. At one time, her grandfather was considered the richest man in the whole of the state. Yeah, not even kidding. You can go to um uh if you go on TikTok, if you're on TikTok, if you go to at jobless, so J-O-B-L-E-S-S-E-D 1-3, you'll find it all there. Receipts and all that you can go and dig through. Um, but yeah, it turns out Chapel Rowan's family is super, super rich. Her parents own a successful multi-location veterinary practice, and this thing is crazy, right? This the big, the big hospital that they bought in 2014, the same year that they m more than likely paid for her to go to Grammy Camp. Yes, we will get to that. Um, this this vet practice that her family bought, the second one, which was like $760,000, has like state of the art uh water therapy clinics for dogs and all this kind of stuff. Technologically, it's huge. It was almost a million dollars. All that. All that, all that. They purchased it. It was a new clinic. Brand new. It was their second one. And we know now too from the documentary that's been dug up because her family had a documentary produced of her. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um, that the successful couple was raising chapel, not in the trailer park, she described to anyone who would listen, but in a five hundred and seventy thousand dollar five-bedroom house on forty plus acres. Not even kidding. Yes, that's right. Yeah. She grew up in a home worth more than half a million dollars with parents who could shell out for a million dollar vet practice. The second one. And her dad's a nurse or something like that. So far cry, far cry from the uh trailer park she was quoted as living in in 2023 with the interview she did in Five Sec Five Cent Sound. That's what it is. Fivecentsound.com. You can go and look. It's called like House of Chapel or House of Roan. I think it's called House of Chapel. Um and in it, they're interviewing Chapel Roan. She says, Oh, I love the aesthetic of growing up in the trailer park. Direct quote. It's still up. You can go look at it. It's on my TikTok as well. Five cent sound. Five, like the number five, C-E-N-T sound.com. You can look it up. Um and it wasn't just her parents, not just her parents. Oh no, no, no, no. Because that, you know, half a million dollar home, million dollar vet business. Okay. No, it turns out Chapel's grandfather, Dennis K. Chapel, the one she named herself for. Remember when she got up on the stage of the Grammys and she's like, I named myself for my Papa Chapel and my first name, and then my last name is his favorite song. Yeah, that Dennis K. Chapel, one of the richest men in the whole of the state of Missouri. Not even kidding you. Not even kidding you. He's in videos of her signing her record deal on the porch of the huge house that she lived in. Yeah, that's right. Kids who actually grew up in trailer parks. Chapel Roan grew up with a wraparound porch. How many times did you hear your parents say they wanted a wraparound porch? Well, Chapel Roan grew up in that house. Um, but her grandfather, Dennis K. Chapel, obscenely wealthy, obscenely wealthy, multi, multi, multimillionaire. This grandfather that Chapel's claimed to be so close to, again, go and look at her Grammy's speech. Time and time again, he owned a huge golf course and resort. A golf course and resort. You can go and look at the website. Uh, a massive real estate portfolio. So just on the golf course, they sold, they sold like 20-something houses at least. Uh, and again, these were huge McMansions valued at half a million dollars. Um, he owned an insurance company, he owned personal planes, he had his own airstrip. And again, there's photographs of Chapel with her grandfather in front of some of the planes he collected. It's just, it is a world away from this working class story that Chapel Roan painted and sold, and you know, like, I was a struggling artist and I couldn't afford to eat. And again, if you go to that five cent sound and you look at that 2023 interview, 2023, you guys, it's like from November 2023. So it's like two and a half years old. She said, literally, literally, direct quote, she loved the aesthetics of growing up in a trailer park. Like she painted herself with someone who had experienced hardship and poverty because what else does that mean? What does that mean? I grew up in a trailer park when you say that, as someone who's sitting there being asked, like, oh, how did you get how did you get here to this pop star that everybody loves? And you go, Oh, I grew up in a trailer park. What is that supposed to mean? Meanwhile, her real upbringing, of course, was living in a family that was building, you know, million-dollar businesses and multimillion dollar businesses. She faked everything. She faked everything. She sold her fans a struggle that they actually lived in. She cosplayed her fans' struggles and poverty. She she cosplayed it to manipulate them, to steal money from them. I mean, it's just unbelievable. It's a brutal revelation. And it's one that has, again, it's come off the back of the Brazil situation. It literally, the if if she and her PR team had handled the Brazil situation with this kid appropriately, if Chapel had just immediately been like, whoa, that's crazy. I'm so sorry. Hey, darling, do you want to go backstage? Do you want like free tickets to the world tour? If they had handled that, none of this would be coming out about her family now, even though the stories have been out there. If you go digging, you'll find people talking about this for years. People have been talking about Chapel's lying about the trailer park. She's lying about how she's been raised, she's lying about her family being working class, but it never caught fire because she was so beloved. And then she just screwed herself in Brazil. She just couldn't help herself. She completely self-sabotaged herself by being like smug, entitled, refusing to listen to anybody, refusing to have empathy, refusing to take accountability. And here we are. Now we know everything she's ever said about her family history is a lie. And to add insult to injury, as if it's not bad enough that you find out that her family is super, super loaded. It also turns out that all those interviews Chapel gave, where she said, Oh, I went to summer camp and I made all these artsy friends. Yeah, it turns out that was Grammy Camp, sponsored by the Grammys, the Recording Academy. Cost $3,000 a week, doesn't include board, which means you have to pay $3,000 a week, and then you also have to pay for your board while you're there, which is not cheap in New York City. Yeah, it turns out she went to Grammy Camp. And it's really interesting because if you watch interviews with her, if you watch interviews from like 2023, 2024, she won't say that. They she she calls it arts camp. She just keeps saying, Oh, I went to arts camp, I went to arts camp, I went to art. I yeah, like met some great people at arts camp, you know, like we're just there, like singers and stuff, just really awesome people. She doesn't want to say it because she knows that she's lying to people. She's manipulating them, she's scamming them, she's not telling them the truth. She specifically, if she was not trying to lie, she would just say, Yeah, it was at Grammy's camp. But she doesn't want to say that in these interviews because she's lying. She wanted to sell people a lie. Now here's where it actually gets super important for you and me. I mean, it's all important because all of this is the same, you know, it's all political. Everything's political. Um, but here here's what you really need to pay attention to. There is a massively manipulative effort going on to keep Chapel in her position of making money for the Epstein class and record companies. That's just that's just that's just what it is. I have I thought the Swifties were bad. No, no, no, no, no. This is a nasty, low, concentrated, very bautified effort. Okay, and the activity that's hinging it is the biggest problem of it all. What am I talking about? The diversity and feminism shield. That's what I'm talking about. Um, if you need an example, you can just go to the comments of anyone's video, anyone who's making thoughtful points about Chapel Roan and why she's not popular anymore, you know, um, you'll be horrified. You will be horrified. You can just go to my Instagram or my TikTok, look at the comments on any of my Chapel Roan videos. You'll be horrified by some of the things people have said to me and to others in defense of this woman. If you say anything about Chapel, anything, and I had no idea they were like this. They're way more vicious than Swifties. If you say anything about Chapel, you're called a misogynist, a bigot, a racist somehow. I've been called that. I've been called a bigot. I've been called a s uh, what did I get called? Um, a genocider, all kinds of stuff. All kinds of stuff. And her fans weaponize just every aspect of her identity and theirs to wage war in her name. It's been one of the most horrific things to watch because they're addicted to a pop star. They're mentally ill, they're addicted to a pop star, and so they they go on like an insane, unhinged attack, and it comes back to Chapel because sorry, birds of a feather flock together. Time and time again, if you see a nasty fandom, you will find a nasty person at the head of it. These people see themselves in these pop stars that they worship. And I I believe that's what we're seeing now. I believe we're seeing Chapel enabling, empowering, and allowing her fans to essentially weaponize identity and therapy speak and feminism. They're they're using her status as a queer pop icon, and I use that allegedly with quotation marks, um, to deflect all criticism thrown her way. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's right there in narcissism territory as well. Her fans are working like flying monkeys to attack and label anyone who questions her as bullying a queer woman, which is nuts because in my comments on Instagram, half the people who have been in there questioning Javel Roan are queer themselves. And you know what's really interesting? Just like Taylor Swift, her fans weaponize all that choice feminism crap as well, where they they attack anyone who questions the standard quo of this corporate pop star. They they essentially go, Well, you just hate women. You're a misogynist, you hate women. And it's this idea of like all women good, and if you want to be good, you can't ever question a woman ever, or you're bad. It's like she can't be bad, she's inherently a woman, and apparently people in the real world can't be good unless they also don't question her. It's like the most backwards fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. It's it's it's it's insane, but it's also ironic because they're like putting Chapel in this position of like, oh, she's a feminist icon, and it's like, why? How? How would that be when she chooses to work with abusers, genociders, and Epstein co-conspirators? Which, yeah, I'm about to lay down the proof for that. So if you're a Chapel fan listening to this, you better hang on to the last shred of dignity you have, because we're gonna really lay out the truth about Chapel Rone, one that you cannot wriggle out of. But it's like they they're like, oh well, she walked away from an Epstein label days, days and days and days after other women had already left. Why did she need days to leave a label with a sex abuser on it if she's a feminist? You know what I mean? It's it's again, it's all these like Taylor Swift red flags. And never mind the fact that most of the people I've seen questioning chapel are women. They're mostly women, but still we're getting stones flung on us, we're getting called bigots, m misogynists, like all kinds of stuff, but uh these people seem to be unable. They would rather weaponize identities who have worked so hard to get like validation and exposure and equality all these years. They would rather weaponize that than just consider the fact that the corporate pop star that they're looking at might be a phony. And that's really where we're gonna get into the meat of it, right? If you've got a die hard, delusional chapel fan in in your life, this is the segment of the podcast you'll want to like tape them down to the chair and force them to listen to. But that's really where all these revelations about Chapel Roan now, you know, the security guard yelling at this 11-year-old kid as just this, you know, repeating thing, to she lied about her family, and now we have the real hypocrisy of her laid bear. This is this is where I think you really see who Chapel Roan is and who she isn't. And the the kind of scam, fraud, liar, fake, hypocrite that she is. And those are all words that I very comfortably label her after uh after the truths we have now gotten after her Brazil incident. But if you're still not buying it, here it is. Let's just look at her biggest piece of hypocrisy ever. Chapel Rone's collaboration with Mac Cosmetics. That's right. Earlier this month, Chapel Roan was named as the official global brand ambassador for Mac Cosmetics. Wow, her face is plastered everywhere. Isn't that great? She's framed it as a full circle moment. That's how she's selling it. She said, Look at me, just a little queer kid from a half a million dollar home who went with a boyfriend romantically to Italy. Look at me, just little old me. I'm now the face of Matt Cosmetics. But here's the problem. Oh, and I wish she was listening to this. Chapel, if you're listening to this, here's the problem, baby. Send this to your PR team. Uh Matt Cosmetics is a company on the boycott list. Yeah. Yeah. Because Matt Cosmetics actively and currently helps to fund genocide. Can you believe it? That's right. And how does that how does that work? I hear you guys saying, but but the drag queens, I don't give a shit what the drag queens say. I've been telling you guys for at least a year now that they're the same thing as Chapel Roan. Essentially, it comes down to this Mac is owned in majority by Estee Lauder. And guess who owns the majority of Estee Lauder? Ronald Lauder. Ronald Lauder, that's right. One of Donald Trump's best friends, one of Donald Trump's biggest donors, one of his most vocal supporters, a die hard, registered, open Republican. And he has said, you can go and look it up, he has said openly that he uses his money from Estee Lauder to fund Donald Trump. But that's not all. That's not all. He declares himself, this is him declaring it, this is not me putting a label, doing a TikTok, this is him. He is a very, very, very proud Zionist. That is his belief system. He's openly admitted that. And he again openly donates money to Benjamin Netanyahu, who he again is also personal friends with and donates to directly. This is open knowledge. It's on every decent boycott list in the world. It is on like every person who is actively engaged with what's going on in Palestine knows that MAC Cosmetics is on the list and you don't buy MAC Cosmetics. So obviously, Chapel is not hanging out with people who are really invested or knowledgeable in what's going on in Palestine because she just signed a big contract to do work with a company who is funding the genocide in Palestine. Yeah. She, Chapel Roan, is now making money for a company that funds genocide. She is making them money that they are going to spend actively. She's actively helping them raise money to genocide children in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Congo, you name it. You name it. And she's posting about it. She's making videos about it. She's super proud to represent Mac Cosmetics. And her fans are super proud to give their money to a company who's going to kill children. Who is killing children? Who has been killing children for years. Years and years and years and years and years. And Chapel's making them money actively. She's proud of it. Not a secret. Not a secret. Mac has been on the list since 2023. You know? Um, and I I've had Chapel people in my comments saying, She supports Palestine. How could you say anything against her? Does she? How can she? When she's working proudly and happy for a company that's killing them. She declined a White House invitation because of a genocide, but then she accepts a business contract. Is it just because the White House didn't want to pay her to support them? She was she just wanted to get closer to the actual perpetrators, maybe? Is that it? Is that what she what was like what was the I ask the Chapel fan in your life. Ask them to explain how Chapel, if she is so against genocide, could work with an Estee Lauder, Ronald Lauder company. And that's kind of the last um thing that I think is kind of like one of the last big pieces that we have to pay attention to. And it's the behavior of the fans because the behavior of fans has been crazy. I've had people that I genuinely enjoy. Uh like I we've been mutual friends online for years and years. I enjoy their content, I enjoy their work, I enjoy their stories, their personalities, who have turned on me over this and said like some really mean shit. Um and it's despite all of it, it's despite all these this open fraud, scam, lying, hypocrisy, her fans are still trying to defend her, and so is her team. Specifically, uh, we saw in the last couple of days um Chapel Roan's PR team teamed up with that Gudea Goodea AI, um, the same AI crisis PR company that Taylor Swift hired when she was in the boiling pot. Um, they did a survey, they put it out to BuzzFeed and a bunch of other places. I guess Rolling Stone didn't want to take it, uh, basically saying that 23% of the posts online about Chapel Roan are coordinated bot attack to try to take her down. It's inorganic, uh, which her fans have jumped on as a defense. They're like, look, look, this Goudea says it's it's 23% of tweets are bot attacks. It's like 77% of the criticizing online is organic, then it's it's just it's just not they're having a hard time defending it, but they're doing it anyway. So here are a couple of quick um just annihilations of those defenses. You can go, I've talked about some of these on TikTok. I'll talk about some of them maybe a little bit later this week on Zubstack and Patreon. But if you've got a chapel stand in your life, here's here's a here's a couple of of quick, you know, annihilations you can use on these defenses. Number one, her fans are claiming that Chapel Rhone is being targeted because she left Wasserman Agency. Uh Wasserman Agency, of course, was being run by Casey Wasserman, who we found out was all over the Epstein files. And about uh what was it like three days, four days after people started leaving the agency, uh, Chapel Rone announced she was leaving, and so now her fans are claiming, oh look, it's because she's not working with Epstein people. But here's the thing, she is. She is working with Epstein people. Ronald Lauder from Estee Lauder is in the email no less than 450 times. He was close personal friends, you know, there was there was money exchange going on, so he's also an Epstein co-conspirator. So she's not being targeted because she left a Jeffrey Epstein tied agency, right? Because she's she's working with someone else who's in the Epstein file. So that that's that doesn't hold water, okay? It just it just doesn't hold water. Lauder is in there and he owns MAC Cosmetics, and that's who she's working for, so it doesn't hold water. But the second big defense I see, and it goes back to that good idea one, is people are saying this is a bot campaign and this has come out of nowhere. It has not come out of nowhere, okay? This is this is a long and established uh routine pattern with Chapel Rhone. We had the VMA photographer incident, which happened a year or two ago, which she told that that that freaking like real journalist to shut the fuck up. She screamed at him. Um when she got bad press, I think it was last year, maybe, or the year before, she got some bad press, so she canceled shows and said it was mental health, which again is like just take accountability, girl. You got some bad press, write it out. Don't go and hide and say, Oh, it's my mental health, because you don't want to take accountability for your behavior. Um, there's a really crazy video where she um is walking through a public airport and someone is filming her yards away. I'm talking 15, 20 yards away, and she sees it and she motions to her security detail and sends the security guard to go walking across the airport to the other side of the walkway and like down to go and accost this person. These are not new conversations. You can go on Reddit. A year ago, someone was on there saying, like, why does her Wikipedia say she lived in a trailer park? She didn't, she's rich, her parents are rich, her grandfather was rich, the family's crazy, crazy rich. These are old conversations. They're breaking the surface now. You know, if you've got these chapel fans who are like, well, this is just happening now, and that's the sign it's a bot, they're not. It's it's taking heat now because she's put herself again in the media for bad behavior. It's like her seventh strike at this point. You know, you're supposed to get three strikes, you're out. Well, she's on like strike seven at this point, and eventually things like this are gonna catch steam when you're a celebrity in the media for a scandal. I won't say that all is lost, though. I will not say that all is lost because I think we are actually seeing a mass exodus, despite the fans online who are still remaining very aggressive, um, some of which I know are bots, but uh, like I said, I know some real people who have gotten really shifty with me um over this Chapel Roan stuff, but um, we are seeing people leave the fandom live in real time. And it's because the Taylor Swift tactics aren't gonna fly anymore. Not gonna fly anymore. That that pre-internet scam where a rich girl could sell a lie and sit on it for a decade and make a billion dollars off of it, it ain't gonna fly anymore. It's just not. Fans can see the pattern clearer, they can see it faster, they can see the entitled person on the other side, and they got Google to back it up. There's a lot of digging you can still do with Google. When you build a brand on being quote unquote one of us, and then it's revealed that you're not one of you, well, not one of us, that's a problem. It's a problem. You can't you can't act like the 1%, come from a wealthy family, and then cosplay the working class. It doesn't work that way. That's not how the check clears. People have access to information, and they're, you know, we're at breaking points. People are struggling. People are struggling. You know, they're not gonna just stop buying your CDs, they're gonna like fucking send you to the guillotine. Right? You c you you you cannot wear people's struggles as a costume to swindle them. Right? If you're gonna play that game, yeah, you're gonna lose fans. You're gonna get cancelled as you should be. You should be canceled for that. And that's why we're seeing Chapel Roan fans selling their twenty twenty six tour tickets, calling her a hypocrite, because she is. She's a liar and she's a hypocrite. And that's why you have actual working class people like me who actually lived at a trailer park, painting her as what she is, which is a scammer. She should have never said that. She that never should have ever come out of her mouth, and it now makes everything else she's ever said in doubt. Because if she she lied about the whole of her backstory, what else was she lie about? Anything. Anything. It's not a rhetorical question. Anything. Chapel wasn't setting boundaries when she sent her security guard onto that fan. She wasn't she wasn't trying to protect herself or anything like that. She was building a fortress. She was building a fortress as a feudal lord. She wants to sit on top of her fortress and look at all the poor people down there making the money for her, but she doesn't want to have to actually touch any of the poorers, and she doesn't want any of the poor touching her pretty pink kingdom. Well, I hope she enjoys that separation that she's built for herself. She could have been a part of something great. She could have built community. She could have built a global community. But Chapel, as it turns out, is just the same old plastic-produced sham of a pop star as Taylor Swift. Just like all the rest of them. And that is going to bring us to the end of today's autopsy. You and I have peeled back the layers of the Midwest Princess. I've said basically everything I have to say about it. Um, and we've exposed the rot and the corruption beneath the lies that she sold us. We found a narrative that looks a lot less like grassroots movement, and a lot more like um Chapel was just another one of those PR campaigns. Like everything about her was just more of that. Like we were just talking about Jed Wallace masterminding a whole campaign. She just feels like more of that. She feels like a hologram, an absolute character from top to bottom. Nothing she ever said was real. From the outbursts in public airports and hotel lobbies to the country club family roots that Chapel Roan sprang from. The receipts are clear, right? It's out there, whether you like it or not. The persona we were sold of Chapel Roan is not who's holding the mic. That person doesn't exist. Just look at the hypocrisy of her MAC Cosmetics campaign. Absolute hypocrisy, man. Chapel's proved that there's no such thing as a moral stance to her, that even genocide is not the line for her. Her morals, they're nothing but a placeholder until she finds the next virtue signal to sell her fans. And what's sad is that she'll continue to do it. She'll continue to do it as long as the checks clear, and her fans will continue to do it as long as she keeps making music. You know, like whatever. I don't even know how you would classify that music, but you know, it is, it is, it is what it is. Before you log off today, there's just a few things that I want to leave you to think about. You know, to answer these now, you can let me know what you think on Instagram. You can send me a text message by clicking the link at the top of this episode description. Um, but there's a few questions I want you to think about this week. Number one, is the relatable indie artist a thing? Has it ever existed? Has it ever been real? Or is Chapel Roan just what there's always been? Uh number two, if a celebrity's activism stops at a paycheck, is it really activism? That one I'd be especially interested to get an answer to. 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