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Chasing Fulfillment: Sarah Andrews on Embracing Change and Empowering Women
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Ever felt trapped by the daily grind, yearning for something more fulfilling? Sarah Andrews, a dynamic mum of two from Geelong, Victoria, shares her inspiring journey from a secure corporate job to creating an empowering online business. Her story is a testament to the courage it takes to embrace change, especially during the transformative years of motherhood. Sarah walks us through her brave leap from occupational rehab into network marketing, driven by a passion to help women find their voice. Her journey is a reminder that pursuing a life filled with passion and fulfillment is not just a dream—it's a possibility within reach.
Amid the challenges of 2020 to 2022, we explore the sacrifices Sarah made to prioritize personal sovereignty, including enduring loneliness and reevaluating her beliefs on health and government. These years of upheaval prompted a shift towards unconventional career paths and embracing community. Sarah's reflections on personal responsibility and resilience underscore the importance of aligning with personal values over societal expectations, reshaping her views on financial security and success in the process.
This episode is an invitation to celebrate personal growth and self-awareness. We discuss the liberating power of shadow work and self-reflection, encouraging our listeners to challenge limiting beliefs and embrace their true selves. With practical advice on building self-confidence and the importance of supportive communities, we urge everyone to let go of external judgments and focus on meaningful change. Join us in this empowering conversation as we inspire each other to chase our dreams and connect with a community of like-minded individuals.
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Speaker 1:Celebrating you wherever you are in your journey. Sit back, grab a tea or a wine and come empower yourself with us. Jewels and day, let's grow. Hello and welcome back to the EWP. Hello, beautiful humans, today we have another guest, as per usual. We are just so grateful for all of these incredible collaborations that we are just so blessed with. We have Sarah Andrews here with us today, hello guys, it's so nice to be here.
Speaker 2:Sarah and I actually met in Melbourne. I can't even remember what the venue was, but it was with both of our previous network marketing companies. So, yes, so beautiful to have you on here, yes yes, it's been such a journey, hasn't it?
Speaker 3:it's been so cool to be able to, like witness each other moving through this life um, yeah, coming from the isogenics days, which is really cool yeah, absolutely welcome welcome.
Speaker 1:I did isogenics once upon a time like engaged, engaged in it didn't wasn't you know selling it or anything. But yeah, I did that for a little while for a hot minute. So Sarah do you want to tell us a little bit about yourself? You are just glowing. Your energy is phenomenal, so grounded, so peaceful and calm. Tell us about you.
Speaker 3:Oh, thank you. Yeah, look, I'm Sarah Andrews. I live in Geelong in Victoria, actually down near the surf coast, and I'm just, I feel like I'm just a regular mom. I feel like I'm just like a regular mom. I've got two kids. One is nine, one just turned five and you know, in the last, I would say, four years, four or five years things have really changed for me and I've really gone on this like a beautiful journey, which I love to be able to like go back and think about and speak about, because I feel like, for so many people, you know, we can resonate with feeling tired, with feeling stuck, with just going through the motions.
Speaker 3:And you know that was really where I was at a few years ago. I had my little boy and you know, something clicked in me I didn't want to lose the precious time that I had with him and I really wanted to find a way to cultivate like a life that I actually really loved and not just go through the motions and not get stuck in the day to day and really feel excited about life. So it's taken me on such a beautiful path and it's just so funny. I've just got goosebumps because I'm like when all of this started when he was born and we've just celebrated yesterday his fifth birthday and it's just such a beautiful reminder of how fast time goes right, like and you guys would know this as well and as we get older they say it speeds up.
Speaker 3:But yeah, five years ago it all kind of kicked off for me with the birth of my second child. For me with the birth of my second child, and now I have created an incredible business that I'm obsessed with that's done all on the internet. I work with a lot of women to help them to really find their voice, to really, you know, embody the person that they want to be. And I'm really passionate about helping people to get out of that feeling of stuck and really find their drive and find their zest for life. And I feel like so many of us have lost that, and particularly in motherhood. And I don't know if, shailene, I know you're a mum, I don't know if you can relate, but you know we go through that that massive transition into motherhood, and sometimes it can feel really hard and you can kind of just get bogged down. So that's kind of where it all started for me.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. It's crazy, mum. Life is like, yeah, when you're, when you're in beers and all the rest of it, the cogs are turning and all that. I know that you came from corporate as well, so I guess you would have had travel to and from Melbourne, I would assume yeah, so I was lucky to work in Geelong, so Geelong's like about an hour out of Melbourne, but oh, you lived here yeah, I don't need to explain where it is. Yeah, oh, and Jules, okay, yeah, you guys who Jalong is For your listeners.
Speaker 3:It's about an hour out of Jalong down towards Torquay, so I always was able to work and live in Jalong, which was really helpful. I worked in occupational rehab for 15 plus years, so I worked in private sector, then I worked in government and you know I loved that job until I didn't, and I think for me, you know I always envisaged that I would have this corporate career and I would have this multi six figure salary and I would go to work every day and I would just like feel really fulfilled and feel really lit up by that. And I actually got to work at what I was once my dream place. So I had a dream place. You know we all have somewhere in mind where I'd be so good to work there.
Speaker 3:And I got there and I was like, oh wow, oh wow, this is not it. This is not it for me. I can't imagine myself being here for the next 30 plus years. So, um yeah, come from that real corporate background and that, that real idea that that's just what we do, and I think, for me, I was always somebody that would have never dreamt of network marketing or coming online in any way, shape or form. You know, dailene, you mentioned Isagenix and that was like the biggest leap for me, like I was like, oh my gosh, this is. I would never do this and in fact, you know I'm.
Speaker 3:I was actually really judgmental about the industry prior you know, I was really judgmental of people that were online doing all these things and like living this life and it was like, oh, you know that I could never do that and I had so many limiting beliefs about myself and my capacity to do something like that, but then also the whole industry, so it's very controversial.
Speaker 2:The previous version of me is like what are you doing?
Speaker 3:You know, but I've I've really found so much in this, more than a business, and I always say that there's so much in this space and I think when you're coming online and you're starting to challenge those limiting beliefs, like so many things come up and you both, I'm sure, have experienced similar journeys with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. Oh, my god. I actually reminds me when I first met you, um, comparing to where you are now on your journey, like how shy you were, and I think I was as well. I remember Steph getting up on stage and she just did this wicked ass speech and I'm like how the hell are we ever going to get there, like it was just crazy. But yeah, I still remember that, like how much growth we both had.
Speaker 1:Just so beautiful, yeah, so wild and then it was the same for us like when we started the podcast yeah you know, we had had this whole vision and we we never expected it to be what it is now really.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it was the same. We had these limiting beliefs and you know, when we make a post, we're like, oh, is that a bit cringe? Or constantly still like analyzing ourselves, but we're like, no, it's important, like people need to hear these messages, people need to be empowered, people need to hear stories that are similar or have similarities.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and when you're stepping out of your comfort zone, it's kind of like your subconscious mind is trying to keep you safe, so like it's trying to hold you back to where it's safe rather than moving forward, even if that's the best thing for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 100% yeah 100% and and the patterns that we play in that and how that actually creates that real feeling of stuckness that I think so many people have, um, and, like I said, you know, it was crazy for me to be thinking that I would do something like this.
Speaker 3:Like I was somebody on social media, I would post photos of my kids and my partner. I was nowhere to be seen. I didn't want to have my photo taken, I was super insecure, I didn't have the confidence that I have now. So all of these things and I think what happens when you start a business or you start a podcast or you start something and you start putting yourself out there, it really calls you into this version of yourself where you know you're showing up for what you say, that you want, and you know you're not actually getting put off by those limiting beliefs and by those subconscious thoughts that we have and entertaining them and allowing them to rule the show. I think for so long. You know, that was how I lived my life, you know, and I was so worried about what people thought of me, I was so socially anxious you know, and now, looking back, I'm like, okay, wow, I can see that this was all like my myself.
Speaker 3:You know, this is my internal dialogue. This was how I viewed myself, this is how I allowed the thoughts to really drive my behavior day in, day out, absolutely, and that led me to this place of feeling, like I said, really stuck, really burnt out, really exhausted, just living for the weekends, just, you know, on this hamster wheel of life. And I think, yeah, there's there's a lot to be said for, like how those patterns and those habits that we form and a lot of that as our thought process and the same pattern, like the same thoughts that we have day in, day out, it actually have such a big impact on how we feel about ourselves, but then also the action that we're willing to take towards what we actually want amen, and I guess going into an industry like network marketing or affiliate marketing or whatever, it's like personal development on steroids.
Speaker 2:So if you don't get to know yourself on a deeper level, then you're not doing it right seriously and I think that's where the growth comes from is just consistently working on yourself, and then, when you do that, your business obviously grows as well and your community as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly right and I think in the um network marketing space, like I mean, for what I do now, it's like it's basically a high ticket network marketing. So it's like, yeah, um, higher commissions, higher product, like value products, um, but I, I work with and lead like a lot of women now, and particularly women, and you know it's really important for us to be embodied in that you know and for us to be able to lead and support other people, no matter you know where they're at on their journey.
Speaker 3:But it's like it's constant work for us as well, and it's like your work is never done and you're you're always looking for those edges and pushing them out. And things like coming on a podcast, things like getting on your social media, things like that, that actually just like slowly push out those edges of what's comfortable for us. And I think you know from where I started. I started a social media account with zero yes, with like from absolute scratch, no idea what I was doing. Like so cringe in all the ways. Like just showing up right and I just one foot in front of the other, one post in front of the other, and what it's done.
Speaker 3:It's actually built like it built a really incredible business that I now get to like live this life of um waking up every day and just being able to be with my kids and do what I want to do every day, which was always the dream Right, and I thought that would allow me this, but it just didn't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, I seen your story this morning up at 6, 6 AM in the morning with your cup of tea or whatever it was and you're like. Once I thought I dreamed of that or something along the lines of and it's so true, hey, just having a slow mornings with your kids and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And every time you trust yourself oh sorry, yeah. Every time you trust yourself, oh sorry, yeah, yeah. Every time you trust yourself, it's like you put yourself out of your comfort zone. It's building that trust within you and that confidence and you're like, wow, you know, people are listening, people want to hear this, people believe in me.
Speaker 3:So then you start to really have that, you know, intrinsic motivation and belief in yourself, which is so cool yeah, and I think for me as well, like a huge part of that is was was back when I back when all this started. I remember I read a Tony Robbins book Awaken the Giant Within. You might've read it yeah.
Speaker 3:And you know it was incredible because there was a question in there and it was like what is it actually going to cost you if you change nothing, if you do nothing, if you keep going down this road? What will it end up costing you? Costing you? And I was like holy shit, you know, and I got super raw, super honest with myself. I like was crying.
Speaker 3:I was like, oh my god, like you know, because ultimately I'm one of the huge drivers for me personally at that stage was like I had my little boy in my arms and I was like what am I being a role model of for my kids? What am I showing them is possible? How do I want them to see this life and what's possible? And do I want them to see a mum that's just like tired and snappy and burnt out and exhausted and rushing through life? Or do I want them to see somebody that's taking risks, that's showing up, that's, you know, finding a deeper level of self-love? And absolutely all of those things were really hard. Like it's not an easy thing to change all of that, like years of um, you know those those horrible thoughts that we have about ourselves and that internal dialogue, but that was one of the real drivers. For me it was like what am I showing my kids right now?
Speaker 3:You know my health, my wellbeing, my mental state. Would I be happy for my daughter to take this on, um? And that you know, often it's like those types of things drive us to make the changes that we need to make. You know, often it's about someone else. We can easily put our kids first, or you know, but when it comes back to it, it's like me. Changing has had such an incredible impact on them as well. And, to your point, like the self-trust piece, you know that I can hold this, I can actually do this, and I can, you know, be okay with other people's judgment and I can, you know, survive their showing up on social media and my post getting one like and like all, those things you know um, because it was like that was the initial driver.
Speaker 3:Now I've got my own things that drive me um, apart from my kids, which is obviously a huge thing, but yeah, I think that the point of it is finding something that really drives you yeah, I'm just thinking.
Speaker 2:I know your story, but what are the sacrifices that you went through for? You know, until now, from when you made the decision until now, what are some of the sacrifices you, I guess, sacrificed short term to get to where you are?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So there was a lot Like obviously around the time of COVID, like 2020, 2022. That couple of years were really pivotal for me. So I went from being somebody who like really literally all of my beliefs about life, about health, about the government, all of these things were flipped 180 degrees almost overnight. Like I went from being somebody watching the news every night and being so invested in what was going on. You know, I remember when COVID broke and I was like, oh my god, I was like ordering bulk hand sanitizer you know online.
Speaker 3:I was like, oh my god, we need to look at it. Like change your clothes when you come home like I was so worried and I was so fearful and I was so just like eating it all up. And then I started to. It was actually my dad that started planting some seeds for me and I started thinking about things differently and I started to research things and I started to question things and there was a lot around that time that really really came to light for me personally, and whether you, you know wherever you are and what you believe about all of these things, it's like totally irrelevant. But the point is that I really started to find a deeper level of self-trust in myself that what I was learning, what I was researching, what I was understanding, I started to believe that that was enough for me to make my own decisions, and a large part of that was sacrificing what people thought of me you know, that the time around where everybody is wearing masks.
Speaker 3:I chose not to do that, and there was a lot of times that I was, you know, the only person in the supermarket without it. I had people approach me. I had people, you know, say things to me.
Speaker 3:I you know, and it was this real lesson for me of holding myself in that discomfort and being like it is okay, I've got this. And you know, even at school with my daughter, she started prep, you know, in all of that chaos, and I was the only parent there that wasn't wearing a mask. And you know, I said to her one day, as we're leaving school, I said, oh, you know, like you know, how do you feel about me not wearing a mask? And she was like I love that, I can see your smile.
Speaker 3:And I was like that is it for me, you know, like that is enough for me, because I was just like it does matter, like it was just this moment for me of like it does matter that I'm standing up for what I believe it does matter, what I'm showing my kids right now and, like I said, that was already a bit of a driver for me anyway.
Speaker 3:So, you know, with that, though, came the judgment. You know there were a lot of friendships that fell away because people saw things very differently to me. So it was a really lonely time in a lot of ways. You know, when you go and start changing who you've been and you start moving differently and thinking differently and doing different things, not everybody wants to come on that journey with you, and I think for me there was, you know, a lot of times where I felt really lonely and I felt really sad that some of those key friendships that had carried me through all of my life were no longer there. Yeah, so that was probably a couple of the biggest things, and then, ultimately, I ended up losing my job. So I ended up having to sacrifice my nine to five salary and my corporate job at the place that I dreamed to work at like I said and you know I made that decision to you know, keep my medical.
Speaker 3:What's it called Like freedom, yeah?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so yeah, sovereignty, and not actually get um swept up in in all of the rules and all of the the mandates and things that were going on, so I ended up walking away from that job and that was a huge sacrifice, you know, financially and also for the security that a nine-to-five gives you.
Speaker 3:You know the safe and secure thing is to have that fortnightly paycheck and to be showing up to an office and to be doing the things. So that was like a massive edge for me and, you know, a real moment where I had to either back myself and go full throttle into what I wanted and what I wanted to create and the types of people I wanted to work with, or I had to go and find another job. You know, and that was going to be really hard at that time because I wasn't prepared to get you know to be compliant.
Speaker 3:So that would have been really hard. So it was kind of this crossroads moment. But you know, yeah, there was a lot of sacrifices that I had to give up along the way. So you know, the story behind the glory is always big and it's always uncomfortable and it's always full of a lot of those little moments where you choose to back yourself and you choose to step in when it would have probably been easier in a lot of ways just to go oh, this is too hard, I'm just gonna go get a job, yeah. Yeah, I don't know if you guys can relate, if that oh, we can absolutely in so many ways the same thing.
Speaker 1:Like just had that niggling intuitive feeling and it was just like no, something's not right here. Like at first, same sort of idea, fear, like I was just like, oh my god, what is happening? I'm on the other side of the world for my family. I can't even go and see them. Like this is all very crazy. I can't even leave my house. I was pregnant, um, by myself. Like all of this, you know all of this stuff.
Speaker 2:And then and you're in Melbourne as well, my own research.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was in Melbourne, started doing my own research and, yeah, even people walking in the park, because that was pretty much all we could do Even people walking in the park, outside we're wearing masks and I was like this just doesn't feel right to me, like something about this. I'm like why are we wearing a mask outside in the fresh air when we're not even allowed to leave our house and we're getting an hour of fresh air a day? I'm like this is ludicrous. So, again, same thing. I started to, yeah, remove my mask as well. And the looks and the judgment and I was just like, oh, my goodness, I'm like holy, wowsy, yeah worry about you.
Speaker 1:You know you're protected. You've got your mask on, so why does it matter what I'm?
Speaker 2:doing and you know it was just like people just had this.
Speaker 1:Oh, it was just such a divide and it was like if you weren't wearing a mask it was like crazy, it was just insane yeah um, but, yeah, same thing.
Speaker 1:Um, I thankfully then had my son and was on maternity leave, um, so I was able to just extend that, um, gratefully, um, but a lot of people in my profession did lose their jobs and you know, now there is a shortage of teachers. So it's just insane, um, and then having to move from because, when it first started happening, move from teaching in the classroom to all of a sudden being expected to teach online and have to work around. How you're going to do that? Like, what does that look like? How are we engaging the students online? How are we getting the resources to them? How are we doing everything that we're meant to be doing in this space? So it was really, really challenging. But again, it was just coming back to that intuition and having that trust within myself and know that this is I'm doing what's right for me. I'm listening to my body, to my guides.
Speaker 2:You know I'm quite spiritual all the rest of it and yeah, I was pushed to my edge as well, like leaving Geelong to move, to pursue my dreams of moving to Queensland. But the border closures and all the rest of it and I feel like that pushed me to my utter, like most limit as well, because everyone was saying you can't get over the border from New South Wales to Queensland, blah, blah, blah. And I was just that annoying little human that's like I'm going to research everything. I moved from Newcastle to Byron Bay, stayed there for two weeks and then I remember getting to the border because obviously I didn't comply either, and he was like how did you freaking do this? You legend.
Speaker 2:And I'm like I don't know, I don't like I was just annoying, like I was annoying in the back portal to like the government updating all these things all the time and I'm like if someone says I can't do something, I'm gonna do it and I did it. And I remember that was the most freeing feeling ever, um, just reading everyone's stories, being like you can't do that, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like you watch me and I'm gonna still go over there with my sovereignty, with my children. We obviously did hotel quarantine, but yeah, it's just sometimes when you push your other limit. That's where you're gonna. And yeah, there were so many times I'm like it would be easier just to go back home, but I knew going back home was just a completely different story and I just couldn't do that. So, yeah, it's crazy, I love it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I think as well with that time, for a lot of people it really was like that, I don't know, like that opening up to what else, what else is possible. And I think for me, when I all of that stuff happened, with the jobs and all of the things, and so many people like you say, jules, like professionals, people that have studied years and years and years to do these jobs, that just suddenly didn't have a job overnight, you know, and my job and my partner's job were both mandated at the same time, so we had like a period of what, two or three weeks to get our ducks in a row and it was like holy shit, like we actually don't have, like we're not in personal responsibility with our financial situation, like if we're outsourcing to two employers which were both safe and secure great jobs, great employers, not going anywhere, you know all of those types of things but then suddenly, overnight, both of our incomes are up in the air and it was like what do we do? Like we've got a family mortgage, all things, you know we can't just suddenly quit our jobs on, you know, a month's notice, um, and walk away from both two incomes, you know. So I think for me, there was a whole piece around seeing all of the ways that we're still outsourcing our power to other people and, to, you know, losing our decision making ability in those environments because, like most people, they need to have income coming in. So that was a part of my story, I guess that that really forced me into this road of, like looking at an old, non-conventional job and a non-conventional way to earn an income that I can do from anywhere, you know, and I can do it around my kids and all of those things, because it really highlighted to me that while we're outsourcing to an employer, we're not in personal responsibility, you know, and we need to have options before we think we know them.
Speaker 3:Like, I wish I had, you know, started this five years ago and our situation might have been really, really different in terms of, like, how that played out for us. But, holy shit, like it was the most like stressful situation, you know, relationship wise. It was huge. It was, it was so big for so many people and I think, yeah, there was a lot of people that were really coerced into doing something they didn't want to do because they had this threat of their income hanging over their head.
Speaker 2:And you know, for me that's just like not okay it's so sad hey yeah yeah, people's livelihoods were definitely on the line, and not even to mention, like the COVID backpacks everyone's been bringing, like everyone's just went into fight and flight and survival mode and a lot of people haven't even been able to get out of it since because they don't have the tools or the money or the resources to kind of do it so yeah, it's wild what it did to the world.
Speaker 1:It's just insane. And then you've got all the other people who use that time to like who am I like? Really get to deep dive, spend because you, you could only spend time with yourself really, and your family, if you had family around um in your own home.
Speaker 1:But it was just like a personal, deep dive into who am I, what am I doing in this, what do I want to do in this world? How can I make a difference, how can I make a change? How can I, you know, be in alignment with myself? And so I feel like, yeah, there was again that sort of divide of it's really challenging, but I'm going to step into my power. And how can I? How can I make this my own? What can I? How can I make this my own? What can I do for me? It's just, yeah, thinking back, it seems like years ago now, like when you think about it, but it really wasn't. It was literally, you know, two years ago going through this.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just insane.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I think to like you know, bring it not not to speak about that, that stuff too much in terms of like it was such a hard time for a lot of people, no matter where you were on either side of the camp. But you know, I think what?
Speaker 3:yeah, like you say, jules, like what a lot of people did was use it as a springboard into really taking stock of their lives and what they actually wanted to experience, and that was certainly the case for me and I think you know, like I shared before, I think one of the key things that I did was really look at, you know, the things that I wasn't happy with in my life and what I wanted to change and what it was going to cost me if I didn't actually make a move to change those things. You know that started with my health, which is how I found Isagenix, which is how I connected with Dailene all those years ago, because I was looking for a solution to like feel better in myself and to take better care of myself, and I found that to be a solution.
Speaker 3:But I think when we start to look for solutions, solutions appear. You know, I really believe that when we're stuck on the problem and we're focused on the problem and the issues and the complaining and like that low vibrational, you know state which is where we feel stuck.
Speaker 3:But when we actually switch on our brains to go, okay, cool, what are the solutions, what are the things I could do, how could this possibly look for me? What could I try, you know, and I think not being afraid of trying new things, you know, and deciding and seeing if they work for you, and knowing that you can pivot and trusting yourself in that process becomes a really key thing, because I think for a lot of people.
Speaker 3:We're so worried about trying new things because we think, you know, we almost catastrophize worst case scenario. Oh what if this happens? What if that happens? But you know what if it doesn't? What if? What? If it actually becomes like a springboard into something else and knowing that you can actually pivot like nothing's a life sentence, right. Like you know, we both joined Isagenix and that served a purpose and it helped us in our growth journey and it was a springboard into other things for both of us. Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, but that's okay as well. You know, some people might go, might go oh, that was a fail. It's like no, that was never a fail, that was perfect. That was an amazing part of our journey and we've developed x, y and z skills that we can then go and take forward with us. Yeah, but it all starts with that like willingness to be curious, and I always yeah, I always really celebrate curiosity, because I think even you know in a whether it's business, whether it's health related, whether it's in our friendships, in our personal lives you know being curious about's business, whether it's health related, whether it's in our friendships and our personal lives, you know being curious about what actually somebody else might be experiencing, like the story that we're telling ourselves, all of those things. It becomes a really beautiful lens to like look at things through, and then also being curious about our solutions.
Speaker 2:Amen. Before joining Isagenix we keep dropping Isagenix. But before I joined that I didn't even know what personal development was. I remember going to like the convention and I was like what the hell? There's all these happy, fit people and I'm just like this is so crazy and people being like just be yourself, just be yourself. I'm like I've never been told to do that before. I've always been told to like dim your sparkle and be quiet and stop doing that. All the told to do that before. I've always been told to like dim your sparkle and be quiet and stop doing that. All the rest of it. And I remember just being like I'm high on life and it was like eight o'clock in the morning, walking into the convention. I'm like this is what community is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so beautiful yeah yeah, um, and I always say if I was ever to join like an affiliate marketing or network marketing space, I'm like it's Sarah, I think I've said that to, I said that to Julia and I'm obsessed with filtered water so like I went to Julia's house and she's like what do you need for groceries?
Speaker 3:I'm like filtered water, like I'm a water star so, yeah, it's in my radar, it's on your radar, yeah like I said to you, I'm like I see this happening at some stage in the future, but absolutely. I just think, yeah, I think that there's like, like you say, I think for me when I was pre sarah, like pre five years ago, when I looked at network marketing, I was like, oh, it's all just bullshit. Um, you know, nobody's that happy like you know.
Speaker 3:All of this judgment right and all of this and when I really peel back the layers on that, it was like, oh my gosh, like I feel so charged about this and I have so much judgment and so much animosity towards this industry because I've never actually looked at it. So I had no basis, right? I was forming my belief on something based on other people's experiences, like other people's judgments, other people's like oh, that's crap, that's this, that's this. But I hadn't actually taken the time to look at it myself and I think it's exactly like you know, know how I saw the government stuff and how it's like we take on board other people's perceptions, other people's ideas, other people's beliefs.
Speaker 3:We hear stories about how other people have done things and experienced things and we can really take those on as our own, and that's really dangerous because, you know, we start to just like hold on to all of this stuff that's not actually ours. And when we actually start to question, hang on, where did I actually? Why do I actually think that? Where did I actually get that from? Why do I think that everything is, you know, too good to be true? What's underneath that? What am I actually afraid of here? You know what's the worst thing that can happen If I had a look at something and then I was like it wasn't for me. It was like cool, that's okay, you know. But I think we can.
Speaker 2:We can really cast judgment on so many things you know and other people and what they're doing, when, when, not really in tune and in alignment with, like, our own beliefs and values, and we're actually just like taking on everything from everywhere which is really hard, like healing, is kind of like unlearning and unraveling all that, all them beliefs and programming and all the rest of it since like zero to seven, but even beyond that, societal pressures and all the rest of it since like zero to seven but even beyond that um societal pressures and all the rest of it
Speaker 1:too. So yeah, yeah and it's yeah, coming into alignment with yourself. And just what are? What are my beliefs? Not my parents, not my past relationships, not my friends. What do I believe in? What are my core values? What do I want to bring into this world?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, yeah, amen. And a huge one. For me, to be honest, was around money. It was around people that are wealthy. You know they're jerks they're, you know they're selfish. I had all these like, yeah, like beliefs around. You know what it would look like for us to be super wealthy or super successful. For us to be super wealthy or super successful and I think for me as well, like really rewriting, like how I saw the money situation playing out, how I saw investing, how I saw like showing up for myself and backing myself in a financial, you know sense as well, because, like anything that we do, like there is a financial investment behind the things that we choose to do. So it was like really uncovering those things and seeing that you know the way that we were trying to build financial security for our family was like kind of wrapped up in this old school paradigm of like you work hard, you save money, like you know, that was kind of what we were doing and it was like, okay, cool, we've been doing this.
Speaker 3:For 15 plus years I've been in the corporate world, I've been earning good money. Years I've been in the corporate world, I've been earning good money. But you know we're not actually getting ahead. We're not actually getting to the point where we have the freedom to go on a spontaneity you know, spontaneous holiday or you know, to do these things that that actually, for me, are a huge part of experiencing life right, and creating memories with our kids and doing all of these things. And you know money allows us the capacity to be able to do those things and and invest in our health, like you guys know how expensive it is to invest in your health, right.
Speaker 2:Like by the time you've done the sauna and the gym and the organic and the filtered water.
Speaker 3:You know all the yeah, yeah yeah, it costs a lot to take care of ourselves to the point where we really want to, and I think, um, you know, definitely for me, you know, there's a lot of things from a family perspective that you know, from a angle we want to be doing and giving our kids and making sure that we're nourishing ourselves really, really well, and all of that costs a lot more money, you know.
Speaker 3:So it's like cool, okay, like we need to uncover even the money beliefs that we've been holding onto, because look back and go, okay, cool, 15 plus years of working myself and my partner both working we're not moving ahead. What else could we try? How else could we invest some money? What else could we create that allows us to create those, you know, income producing assets that people talk about? Um, you know, and it sounds crazy, but like it just was never on our radar. We were like we just work, we both just work and we just figure it out. Um, so that's been a really cool thing as well, like the money uncovering. Yeah, you're somebody that you know hasn't actually done a deep dive into how you view money and what you think your beliefs are around that as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, that's really cool place to start yeah, do you have any book recommendations for that? Did you start well?
Speaker 3:I've read a couple of specifically about money. Um yeah, happy pocket full of money. Yeah, and you're a badass. Badass at making money by jones and sincero yeah, both of those I've really liked.
Speaker 3:There's also get rich, lucky bitch, that's cool you've heard of that one but those like I love those, those kind of books. It does go into a little bit more of the woo-woo, like particularly happy pocket full of money. It's about quantum physics. It's about, like how you know all of these, these factors are at play and it's not the tangible, it's not the like.
Speaker 3:Get your money and put it over here and it will you know, compound logistics it's like, yeah, like coming back to like you were talking about earlier daylene, like the subconscious programming that we have and how we view things and we're going to resist things. That you know, if I think that everyone has heaps of money is an asshole, I don don't want to be an asshole, so I'm going to resist, you know, like having heaps of money, because I don't want to be putting myself into that basket. So some of the yeah, it's a little bit more of that type of stuff.
Speaker 3:But also really fundamentally important for us to like understand, but then also I think as well to start opening up those conversations with, like our kids and other people you know around money. So, yeah, that's a really cool. I definitely recommend those few books.
Speaker 2:I started listening to that. It is very woo-woo.
Speaker 1:It's good though yeah, I listen to it on audio and we love woo-woo and we were talking about this the other day how you know, the more you're chasing your dreams and healing and you know facing those deep, dark parts of you and you know going after what you want, living in alignment, the more things you're just like, oh, wow, like I, abundance, abundance, abundance, abundance. Like it just falls into your lap. The universe is like you. You go here, you go, yeah, but then when you sort of go off that track and we go all go through the life's ebbs and flows and things like that, right, but when you're kind of going off the track a little bit with those ebbs and flows, then it's like, oh, more, more is going out, more is going out, more is going out, more is going out. You know, um, this is happening, this is happening, and you can get really stuck in that sort of mindset of why me, why is this happening? What's happening here? Um, but yeah, it's just crazy. I love how the universe works. I'm just yeah, yeah that.
Speaker 2:That was like that was from my my life. For like six to eight weeks my life was a chaotic.
Speaker 1:I wasn't gonna say anything.
Speaker 2:I was like victim mentality. I was like fuck this, like all of it and everything just got wrong and I'm like, what the hell? And then there was this one week in that time that I was like, right, I've got this, I'm calling back my power. And then I got asked to do like an activewear collab. I had like vouchers coming in like from random places and I'm like, okay, I'm in alignment, clearly. And then as soon as I went back out of it, I'm like there's another bill, another one.
Speaker 3:I'm just like it was crazy.
Speaker 2:It was like it just kept smacking me.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's just, it was also even as crazy as like, where you had gotten an abundance of money and you were like, oh, I'll go get some active.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you, universe the next week for that same thing.
Speaker 1:It was taken from her, and it was.
Speaker 1:I was just like babe come on, you've gotta like let's, let's make a little and it can seem overwhelming when you are going through life's ebbs and flows, or when you're starting to find your sole purpose, or when you're doing healing, all the things, when you're doing any self-development. It can be like, oh my god, where do I start? Just start small. Just literally sit with yourself and ask yourself what, what do I want to work on? You know, do a mini meditation or go for a walk and just tune away from the world and just write down whatever comes through, like there's always somebody higher. I believe you know the universe. There's always somebody working in our favor. You know we're meant for just such beautiful things in this world. So yeah, just start small. It doesn't have to be that overwhelming.
Speaker 2:They say I'm not sure if Steph said it, I've read it somewhere. But it's like when you don't know what to pursue, pursue yourself and then the right things will come. And then you know you'll just get the ideas and you know you'll attract all the things, yeah, so, yeah, yeah, absolutely love that.
Speaker 1:So, sarah, you mentioned on your form and you've touched into a little bit with the money on it on this topic, but, um, did you want to touch on some of the shadow work that you've done? That that's so intriguing to me.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, look, I mean I've done so much so I actually worked with a coach one-on-one for the better part of 12 months, so in the first it was kind of middle of my journey, I would say. And so it's just that invitation of like looking deeper into the things that we do, why we do them. You know what's playing out for us when we're looking at somebody else and judging somebody else for something. You know that person's too much, that person's too big, that person's too loud. It's like looking at what it is for us, like looking at what is that triggering in me? What is that you?
Speaker 3:know, what is that about me? What am I making that mean about myself? And you know, sometimes we're so activated by other people when they're reflecting something back to us that we're not actually living up to living in. You know, we have that in ourselves as well.
Speaker 3:I always struggled with being too much, and I think Daylene mentioned this at some point earlier. But the being too much, it's like oh, you don't want to be too happy. You know, as part of my business grows, one of the things that I've really struggled with is like I don't want to be too happy. One of the things that I've really struggled with is like I don't want to, I don't want to be too happy, I don't want to be things to be too good, because then I'm not going to be relatable or I'm not going to be liked, or people aren't going to like me. And, and you know, in some ways, the more success that you have, the more that you, you know, for me this has been my personal journey Like this this is keeps coming up, it keeps cycling through.
Speaker 3:It's like, oh, you know, we're comfortable, we're safe being here at this level of success, what would it mean if I tripled my income? What are people going to think about me, then what is that going to mean about me? What am I going to be about myself? And you know, when I look at people that are earning what I desire to earn in the next couple of years, it's like looking at. What are they activating in me? You know, what are the things that come up and just doing that deep dive and peeling back the layers of like what's underneath that? What's underneath that?
Speaker 3:you know, and I think for a lot of people, you know where we're so quick to recognize me or maybe we don't even recognize it but to to be activated by somebody else. It's doing something or saying something, and what is that? What does that mean? You know what does that mean for you? Why is that? What does that mean? You know what does that mean for you, why is that upsetting to you? Because I what I've learned is that if, if it's not activated by somebody, it's like we're neutral, it's like we're not upset.
Speaker 3:If somebody's like says something that we don't agree with, we're like cool, like amazing. I love that for you. It's. I'm not bothered, and I think when we have a response to their truth or we have a response to what somebody else has said or done, it's activating a part of us. So we get to look at that where we're not neutral, because I think that's where a lot of the conflict comes right, because it's like where people are constantly reflecting back to us things that we might think about ourselves deep down, things that we might, you know, things that might have hurt us in the past and they're hurting us again and we don't understand why we don't look for the reason why, and so, yeah, that becomes like this whole, this whole other part, and it's really important work to do because then you start to understand other people as well.
Speaker 3:You know, you start to understand that somebody else doing something or saying something or having an opinion that's wildly different to yours. And we saw this in COVID, you know, where people were so activated by somebody not wearing a mask and it's like, well, why are they so upset about that? You know, it didn't make any sense really, but it's like there's something underneath them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, generally when I'm triggered or something activates inside me, it's generally because I want something that they're doing, like I want that financial freedom or I want blah, blah, blah, and that seems to be where I get activated. Yeah, like people not wearing a mask, like that's. It takes courage and it takes confidence, and a lot of people aren't that, so maybe that's where it comes from yeah yeah and it's.
Speaker 3:It's seeing that in yourself and like one thing that I did learn in my first like when I was doing some coaching. It was like if I see somebody earning, you know, 500k a year, instead of being upset about the yeah like actually being like yep I need to.
Speaker 3:I want that too, like claiming our desire as well, when we see somebody showing up with all this confidence or posting the bikini pic and they look rocking and it's like, instead of being like, oh, why she, you know why she posted that, or she loves herself, or like these negative things that come in yeah, it's like oh my god how good she's, like takes care of herself.
Speaker 3:I want that too. I desire that too, like how good would that be, good on her she's, you know, you know, like, whatever the things are, yeah, because I think that response that we have it's like yeah, deep down, do we actually desire that too? And I think, when I uncovered all of my beliefs around network marketing and that people were so happy and like all and it was like this real negative judgment on it but when.
Speaker 3:I actually look back. I was like actually want that, I actually want to have like a cool group of women that I'm like yeah, that I'm like friends. With that, we get to grow and do all these things together. I actually desire to have like a good, fit, strong body. I actually desire to have, like you know, 10x my bank account. Yeah, desire all these things.
Speaker 3:That's why I'm so activated by the people that has it because I'm like, oh my god, and I'm telling myself it's not true, it's, it's all too good to be true, it's all fake, it's all this, yeah yeah, they were just like the cover-ups right for how I actually felt yeah, because our brains are wired to go straight to negative bias as well.
Speaker 2:So we have to retrain our brain to, you know, celebrate people and be proud of people, and all the rest of it otherwise we're never going to get there if we're in that negative state of mind.
Speaker 1:So yeah, and it's a daily practice, like and get yourself like a bestie or a friend or a group of girls that are super supportive, that remind you when you, you know, sort of go off, celebrate you for yourself. Like you know it doesn't matter what they're going through, they're still celebrating your wins. They could be at the bottom at the moment, going through one of life's ebbs and flows, but, like we're constantly, always still celebrating each other, no matter what I'm going through, no matter what she's going through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like we're always there cheering each other on and it's just such a surreal feeling to have somebody who just truly sees you for who you are, um and loves you through all of it, the good, the bad, the ugly you know everything like it's just yeah a lot of people don't have that like no, I never did right, like I never had that connection where it felt safe for me to be like, oh my god, I love this about myself, or I?
Speaker 3:you know, I'm feeling really strong and I'm feeling really healthy and I I love like x, y, z about myself. It wasn't the norm for us to show up in circles and talk about that.
Speaker 3:It was more normal to talk about the things that were going wrong or whinge about our partners or you know be. This happened, that happened. It's like this negative kind of lens but like, yeah, if you can't, yeah, show up in your friends and be like oh my god, I've just like done this amazing thing, or I'm I'm fucking love myself today, I feel like I look so good or like whatever the thing is, it's like that's okay, like you need to find those spaces where it's okay to be like that because, yes, it's bigger than just like that statement.
Speaker 3:it's like what it actually says to your mind and what it actually says to yourself of, like it's safe for me to be successful, to have the things that I want, um, and when we're constantly kind of trying to fit in and we're like, oh, this person's having a hard time so I can't show up and celebrate my business, or I can't show up and celebrate, you know, the holiday that I'm going on, and sometimes that played out for me in those kinds of ways, like when I'd had a really awesome day, I was like, oh, I don't want to share too much Cause. Like, oh, like, people might not like it.
Speaker 2:You know there's been some times I open your stories and even with Jules in our conversations I'm having the shittest day in bed, like bawling my eyes out, snotting, crying, and Julia will message her. I see your story or someone else's story that I'm so inspired by and it's just like there's good times coming back around, like yeah, and I'll be like loving on you guys and I'm just like, yeah, imagine being in that negative mindset where you're just like fuck, you like because people don't realize that yeah, and life does ebb and flow like it really does, um.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you do have to surround yourself with beautiful humans yeah, and be unapologetically you like.
Speaker 1:Just be you. Do what you want to do, be who you are. Chase those dreams like be you girl. Yeah, and celebrate other queens too yes, exactly soulful mondays.
Speaker 1:I know I love it I was chatting into this the other night on um when I was teaching beliefs and values in my zoom live learning um and I was trying to explain beliefs and how we grow up with them and how it can be like I'm sure you've all seen this in the community group how it can be as simple as one person believing that there's not bad dogs, there's only bad owners, and then you look at the other side and it's like, no, well, that breed is definitely bad. So it's that breed of dog because it's xyz, you know it's got to be the dog. It's not the owner, it's the dog. And so that's just an example of two very different belief systems and how, growing up, that can be ingrained in you one way or ingrained in you another way, and how life can influence you.
Speaker 1:You know, when we were before we were created, it's kind of like that's when we had. You know we were just a fresh slate. We had no beliefs we had. You know it was just. But yeah, I think, through the healing journey it's coming home to who you were always meant to be, who you were destined to be, and developing your own beliefs despite all the ones that have been thrown at you in your life, yeah, and looking at what which ones are actually serving you and which ones are actually not serving you anymore.
Speaker 3:You know it's okay to let go of beliefs as well. You know some of the key things that that you've you've held on to it's like is this actually serving the next version of me? Where do I want to be in five years time? Does that person have this belief or not? You know, and I think, yeah, there's that that letting go part as well, Like this belief has served me for X amount of my time, but now it no longer serves me and like I'm okay to drop that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Self-awareness and investing in coaches and you know, therapists and stuff like that, alternative ways of healing all of that sort of stuff does play a huge part and role as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did a really cool sort of exercise where we just kind of did little mind maps about the different values that we thought we wanted to bring forward in our life or that we thought we were living by, and then I just had them break down, each value and how that would look, how it would sound, how it would sound how it would feel if you were to truly encompass that value stepping into your life. And it was really cool just to see the epiphanies and you know the moments of oh cool, like this, if I, you know, start instilling and focusing on this value and coming back to it, wow, this is what it's going to look like, sound like, feel like, and that can make you feel really excited about what it's like to start and go and deep dive on this journey of self.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I love that. One of the things that I did early on and actually, you know, it was a question that I'd never actually asked myself, but it was what, what's my ideal day? Actually look like? Like, if I just like what's my ideal Monday? Right, and I'd never actually stopped to look and think about what that would look like, feel like, smell like, be like. You know, not only for me but for my kids as well. And when you do that and you start to recognize that it's usually like it's not these elaborate like the big fun days, like they're amazing, but it's like the daily. It's like the daily things that you get to do in your day. Take care of yourself, you know like, have the connection without the people that we love. You know, cook beautiful, healthy meals, like they say, do something that's inspiring and fulfilling.
Speaker 3:I think that there's a large part of what we miss. What I missed in the corporate world was like I could go there and I could do my job and I was really good at my job. So I got a lot of praise and a lot of like good girl, like you're amazing, like blah, blah, blah, all these like. But it wasn't like fulfilling, it wasn't like deeply what I wanted to be doing. It wasn't, you know, like soul nourishing, it wasn't like doing something that I really felt proud of, like it was just going through the motions. So, when you start to think about your ideal day and then your ideal week, and then you know one of the things that I do and I still do now and I update it all the time is like a magic script. So, yeah, like future pacing my life and future pacing where I want to be at this time next year and future pacing what that looks like and in detail, right, and like having those real solid like GPS of like where you're going, because that's how you show up and you start to really, yeah, kind of live those values, like you were saying, jules and, um, you know, make decisions that are aligned to those values. So you were saying, jules, and you know, make decisions that are aligned to those values.
Speaker 3:So that future version of me that I'm, like currently focused on, I'm like what does she do? How does she look after herself? What decisions does she make? What does she invest in? How does she pivot? What does she do when these limiting beliefs come up? You know, because, even like, I'm only very early on in my journey and I still get like these limiting beliefs and these like shit thoughts come in, you know, and you're like, okay, cool, it's just catching them and moving, moving through them and moving on and really pulling yourself into, like cool, the next version of me. What, how does she pivot, how does she manage these things? And I think if we're always operating from that, that, like lens, we get to like move to that person quicker.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Collapsing.
Speaker 1:I feel like my head's going to fall off by the end of this episode. Everything she's saying I'm just like. You can't see me, but I'm just nodding my head with this big grin on my face if we could do an absolutely count one thing that came up for me when you were saying that is just like chase your dreams, girl.
Speaker 1:Do the thing. Like just do it, you won't regret it. It's a learning process. Nobody's perfect. None of us are perfect. You know. We have moments, we have days. We still there are times where I still like have judgments about other things. But it's yeah, as you said, sarah, just about coming back and being like oh, where is this coming from?
Speaker 2:Why am I feeling like you know and just doing a?
Speaker 3:little bit of a deeper dive. Oh, it's not really about them. It's about me feeling so empowered, yeah, literally.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna be so ready for my photo shoot after this. Yeah, do you have anything else that you want to add? My beautiful human.
Speaker 3:I think, like we've kind of gone all the places, I think the the biggest thing that I would love to just like leave with people and your listeners it's just that, that message of like really looking very honestly at like what it is that you want to change and deciding that you know a you're worth it, like you can totally do it, and all of the the thoughts that come in and say that you can't. You know, like I said I was, I was not this person that you see today and, like Jules Daylene's, had a you know a little glimpse of that. That journey, I suppose, um, but yeah, it's been the best thing I've ever done. You know, getting out of my comfort zone and everyone says it's so cliche. It's like getting out of your comfort zone, nothing grows there, all the things you know, but it's just like it's so wild and I think, one of the best things that I love looking at.
Speaker 3:And I think as well, when we're in this like realm of growing and pivoting and changing and having all these goals, it's really easy to forget where we started and it's really easy to keep moving the goalposts on ourselves. But if you're just making some changes in how you're moving, thinking, like all of the things you know, very, very quickly time passes and you get to go back to that previous version of you and go, holy shit, like I've actually come so far towards what I actually wanted. And I know for me that it felt like that 15 years that I was in corporate just going through the motions. Nothing really like crazy changed. It was just more of the same right.
Speaker 3:I just got older and I just had more responsibility and all the things, but the last five years, like since, really challenging some of those beliefs that I had about a million trillion different things, not just network marketing or not just the government like about a lot of things like that.
Speaker 3:Five years it feels like I got my spark back for life. You know it sounds so cliche, but it does. It really feels like that and I think there's so much power in in really like um, looking at where it is that you want to go and believing that you can actually do it and putting yourself in the right environment so that you can actually be fully supported to get there. You know, a huge part of what I've done is really surround myself with people that are lack-minded, people that are having the same kinds of these types of conversations all the time.
Speaker 3:Um, and letting go of and not making it wrong that I've had to step out of certain circles you know, and I've actually had to choose me in a lot of ways and have that awkward, uncomfortable period of loneliness and have that time where I'm like, fuck, I've got no friends and like all, those like you know, but then coming back full circle, and then, and knowing and trusting myself that I will connect with beautiful people that are, you know, going to support me on this journey and I can also support them and hold that space for them as well, um, and I think it goes both ways and it's really really nice absolutely.
Speaker 2:Oh, give me a big cuddle, absolutely me too and celebrate yourself.
Speaker 1:Like we need to remember. We get so, you know, going with all of the way of life and the ebbs and flows, we forget to stop and just take a minute. And you know, I've had several people just say to me lately that are in my circle or in my healing journey or supporting me. Jules, stop and take a minute and celebrate yourself. Like, look at how far you've come from where you were. Like, look at who you are today. Look at the things that you're doing, like they're soul-led. You know you're on the right path. Just take a moment to celebrate you.
Speaker 1:And I was like oh yeah, we, just we just get on with life and you know, even when we're chasing our dreams and doing the things we love, we forget to take a moment and be like girl. Well done, like slay yeah.
Speaker 2:Amen.
Speaker 1:Amen, so I suppose we'll end with our questions then. So the first question is if you could say anything for the younger version of yourself, Sarah, what would you say?
Speaker 3:To let go of what everyone else thinks about what you want to do and just do it Like literally you know to stop, just to stop putting everyone else's stuff before your own. Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing. I think the worry that we have, the judgment that we're going to face, like your key people in your life that are going to be in the next season are not going to judge you for what you want to do. They're not going to judge you for your goals. They're not going to judge you for doing network marketing.
Speaker 3:They're just going to be like go for it. It's amazing, you know, go and the people that are going to have that judgment, it's like that's okay, but that's their thing and it's just it's time to move regardless.
Speaker 2:Amen. And the next one is if there's someone listening right now that's putting off chasing their dreams, what advice would you give them? I stuffed that all up.
Speaker 3:What advice would I give them? I would just say to start doing one thing at a time. Yes, let go of the overwhelm. You don't need to change everything suddenly to make decisions based on the future version of you and what that person does, how that person thinks, how that person moves in life. Um, just in the smallest of ways, like I think sometimes we can dramatize it and we can make it that we have to make these huge, life-altering shifts. But actually, if you start to, maybe it's catch the negative thoughts that you have and actually put a stop to them and re-change them and change them for something else. Or maybe it's like changing your eating habits or changing and committing to movement, whatever the thing is like. Pick one area of your life and start to do that thing. Make a promise to yourself that you're going to change this and show up for yourself and build that confidence and that you know that belief in yourself, that like if you say you're going to do something, you're going to do it yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that muscle just gets stronger and stronger and then it takes over into other areas. You can apply the same technique into the next thing, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Baby steps. And then just yeah, go, go, go.
Speaker 2:Yep, so beautiful.
Speaker 1:What an honor it's been. Such a breath of fresh air always the best way to start a monday and the chats are just incredible. The vibe is incredible. We thank you so much from the bottom of our heart for sharing all your wisdom with our listeners today.
Speaker 3:Thank, you so much girls. It's such a pleasure. You guys have done this amazing podcast. I'm so chuffed to be on it and be able to contribute and, um, yeah, come, if you listen to the podcast, come follow me or say hi on my socials. I'd love to. Yeah, to know what lands. And, yeah, if there's anything that you know you really take away from this podcast, I'd love to hear about it.
Speaker 2:We'll pop you in the show notes. Yes, amazing.
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