Episode 22 - The Hopping Dead and the Hungry: Jiangshi and Wendigo Lore

In this chilling, and occasionally ridiculous episode, we’re diving headfirst into the eerie folklore of the Jiangshi and the Wendigo... two legends born worlds apart but united by one very unsettling theme: hunger.

From stiff-limbed corpses hopping through moonlit villages in Qing Dynasty tales to the bone-chilling whispers of a spirit that embodies starvation, greed, and the brutal cold of northern winters, we unpack what makes these creatures so terrifying yet fascinating. Along the way, we get into the cultural roots behind each myth, the symbolism of insatiable appetite, and why humans across the globe keep inventing monsters that just won’t stop consuming.

Expect spooky storytelling, a few laughs, and some unhinged comparisons you didn’t ask for. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

I'm Alex and I'm Megan. And we are two filthy horrors.

SPEAKER_01 0:16

You're all beyond the veil now.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

Are you ready to yap your trap today? I'm ready. I'm ready. Uh, even though we just had some yappy time before the episode. We did. But it was stuff that we not talked about.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

We laughed so fucking hard.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

Okay, so we've got that part.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

I was gonna say we definitely should because I think it was last week, if I'm not mistaken, you gave us like a fucking crash course on memories. And before Dylan left the house. I think we're talking about something.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

Yeah, I was talking about my overtime hours. I was calculating my hours at work this week to make sure I like got where I needed to be. And I thought I messed up my math, but I didn't. I was correct. But I swear Dylan questioned me on it, but he's saying he didn't and got like kind of grumpy. And then I was like, I was like, do you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:13

Yeah, he was like, I didn't say that, and you're like, you said that, and then he was like, Well, I don't remember that. And you're like, Well, did you know that memories?

SPEAKER_00 1:21

And I was like, or not like set in stone or whatever, and that they change every time you call them. And and he just like nicely, he respectfully stormed out the house.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Fucking cackled. I literally lost my shit. I didn't mute, I didn't turn my camera off. I sat there and I busted out laughing. It was funny, it was really funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

To listen to this and be like, you bitch.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

I know, I know. It was great. I don't really have anything like super crazy for yappy hour. I think that everything in my house has kind of dissipated. I saged, I feel better about all of the weird shit I've been seeing. Um, I am going to Erie for the weekend though to visit my brother-in-law because he just bought a new house and he also rescued some cats. So we're gonna go meet them and see the new place. So I'm pretty excited about that. How many cats? Just two. Oh, okay. I think their names, they're like seven, and their names are Moshi or Mochi. I don't remember, and then Mau Mau. They're so fucking cute. That's cute. He sent me pictures of them the other night, and it was they're so cute, I can't wait to meet them. I did drop my deco baby off at Courtney's house um today, actually. I definitely cried a little bit on the way there because it's just so hard for me to leave her these days because I know that you know she's getting older and my time with her is super limited. But I did tell Courtney I was like, enjoy your time with her because this is probably the last time I drop her off here alone. And she was like, I know. I already thought about it, and I kind of figured that. So I hope they have fun. Oh they will.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

She'll have a blast with her doggos. Freaking Daka loves butch and bean. Yeah, they get along very well. Uh, for me, I I mean, I do want to just let the listeners know that, and you, um, but you know already, that I woke up sick last night, so um, I am sniffly and coffee and flemmy and gross. So, um, if I'm breathing heavy, pretend like you didn't hear it. And if I'm sniffling, pretend like you didn't hear it. I don't know what to tell you. But I'm trying, I'm muting my mic and stuff so it's not like too obnoxious, but I just want to let you guys know.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

Unacceptable. We shouldn't even be recording.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

I can't believe you. God damn it. But anyway, I also wanted to say, I think I told well, I told you and your mom she she like said we were ignoring her when I said about it, but the magnesium oil on your feet, like I started doing it because the the ER physician told me that it does help with migraines as well. And it helps sleep, restless legs, all this other stuff. So I started doing it because Ben has been struggling to sleep through the night, and I don't want to give him like melatonin. I was looking up like more natural things to do, and then the doctor said to do that also, so I was like, okay, we'll try it. So I gave put it on his feet, and then I also put it on my feet, and we've been sleeping a lot better this week. That's great. Yeah, it's not like a hundred percent perfect, like he did wake up once last night, but he fell asleep within like a minute of waking up, so I think he's on the right track, yeah. And I'm doing a lot better too.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

Good.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

I'm just like sick, so I'm not sleeping the best right now, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Yeah, hopefully you can get back on track.

SPEAKER_00 4:37

Yeah, and then I requested like for the diabetes update. Um, I requested um a referral for an endocrinologist, but all the endocrinologists in my area are not accepting patients, so I have to figure out what office I can go to. Yeah, but yeah, so because I was like, I don't have a whole pancreas and I have diabetes. I'm like, so I think and I have thyroid disease and I have PCOS, so I think it's time to see an endocrinologist. It's probably time, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Yeah, I think it's it's in your best interest to definitely do that.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Yeah, so definitely uh just shout out to people for encouraging me to uh what's it called? Advocate for myself advocate for my what's no, what the fuck is the word?

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Yeah, I mean advocating for you, but like for you doing it, it's probably more like putting yourself first.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Yeah, there's a there's like an actual phrase that I'm looking for, and I can't think of it right now. Sorry, I didn't plan on saying the shout-out, but thank you to those people who are like you need to focus on you and do your shit together.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

You're welcome. On another note, um, for anyone who reads um Akatars 6 and 7 have a release date finally after like five fucking years. So really excited about that. I literally watched um the Call Her Daddy podcast last night. It was almost two fucking hours long. It was wild, but I will say it was amazing. I think people should definitely watch it if they're into like the mind of Sarah J. Mass as an author, but um, it got pretty heavy. It was definitely a lot. It was nice though, it was a good interview. Um, but yeah, so October 27th, Avatar 6, and then January 12th, Avatar 7. And then I think the eighth book will kind of be the completion. Yeah. So I'm so excited for that, and it's like, I swear to god, it's all I'm thinking about. Um, I'm gonna have to do a reread on everything, and I can't wait. I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

I'm going to the summer. I'm gonna reread all.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

Yeah, I'm really excited about it, and um, I mean, it's been five years. Five whole years, Sarah Janet.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

Like, come on. Janet Sarah. So um, I also saw that she like really um like talked about like Nesta and stuff like that. And um my god. I I didn't see everything she said, but that kind of like stood out to me because in the beginning of the books I did not love her. Um, me either. But I definitely grew to love her like when it was her time to shine, like whenever it was her like time to really grow. And um I related to her a lot. So and a lot of people are like, ew, I hate her, and I'm like, uh, I actually love her. So No, she's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

She did a lot of growth, like she she did a lot of work, and Sarah J. Mass said that she actually poured herself into Nesta and didn't realize it at the time because she was like depressed and going through therapy and everything, and so she was actually spoilers by the way. I'm gonna spoil the shit out of the last book right now, but so skip forward if you care about that. But um, whenever Nesta and Cassian are on that hike and she breaks down crying about like how she um like doesn't like who she is and how she's really struggling right now. She's uh Sarah J Mass said that her and her husband were on a hike in New Zealand and she broke down about the same thing. And I was like, oh my fucking god. Like it was just so sad. Um it was so sad. But I love that she pours herself into her characters like that because it makes an impact on others.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

I mean, that might be why her books are so like incredible to at least in my opinion. I mean, I I I I wouldn't die on that. I love her books, but um her character development is great in my opinion, and I think so too. Uh you they're very relatable, even though they're like not altogether human type situations, you know? Like they're still relatable.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

Yes, I agree. They're wonderful books. Okay, you ready to jump in? Yeah, go ahead and tell me about what your thing's about because you told me earlier, because I was asking, I asked Megan what her topic was about because I didn't want to pick the same one, or like I didn't want us doing the same one, and she I did not even know what this was, so somebody just spell it out for me.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

Just a reminder, this episode is on lore. They say the soul has two halves the hun, your light, your intellect, ascends to the heavens when you die. But the Po the Poe is your darker, animalistic nature, and sometimes if the burial is wrong or the grudge is too deep, Po will stay behind. It settles into the marrow and tightens the muscles. In the rural villages of Xiangxi province, they call them the stiff corpses. Dressed in the funeral silks of the Forgotten Dynasty, they do not walk, rigor mortises claim their joints, turning every movement into a violent, unnatural leap. They are blind to the world of the living, but they can hear the one thing you can't stop doing. They hear your breath. Tonight we step into the shadow of the hopping vampire. We're talking about the Zhang Shi. Hold your breath, if you value your life force, that is.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

Okay. I feel like I breathe way too fucking much on this podcast though, so I'm duped.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Dude, I was like, the whole time I was like starting my intro, I was like, heavy breathing. Puffin and puffing.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I can't hear you. I don't know. I'm like Okay. Anyway, when I go to edit though, I can hear us going, oh my god, everyone.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

Can I take sentence or going in the mic? It's so embarrassing. I fucking hate it. I hate it so much.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

I try so hard to cut it out. I don't know if it really translates whenever I upload it to like platforms though. But I know when I record or whenever I edit it, it's fucking crazy. I can hear it sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Not all the time, but I can hear it sometimes. But goddamn it. I do want to say before I get too far into this, I looked up pronunciations, and I'm trying to do it.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

I just want to tell you you're doing so well right now. I wanted to say like uh I wanted to give you a shout out because I know that you don't really like diving into that or stepping too far into that.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

Yeah, and uh this there's a lot in here that I had to look up, so uh it's perfectly okay if I'm corrected, but do it nicely. So, because I am trying my hardest. Okay, anyway. Imagine you're a traveler in the late 1700s, navigating the treacherous, mist choked mountains of Hunan. The sun has dipped below the jagged peaks, and the only light comes from the paper lantern bobbing in the distance. As the lantern draws closer, you see a strange procession. A man walks at the front, ringing a bell and chanting prayers. Behind him a line of figures follows. They are dressed in the high colored official robes of the Qing dynasty, dark silks, stiff embroidery, and round mandarin hats. But their arms are outstretched, locked straight in front of them. They aren't walking, they are moving in unison, leaping short, heavy distances with every ring of the bell. This wasn't just a ghost story for the people of Songxi. A specialized it was a specialized trade. This is the practice of Songxi Ganshi, the driving of the corpses.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

In Chinese culture, painted that perfectly, by the way. I could literally see that happening. That was a fucking heart.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

And I could see them bouncing around. That was really good. Thank you. Okay, you're welcome. That makes me feel so good. In Chinese culture, dying far from home is considered a spiritual catastrophe. If you aren't buried in your ancestral soil, your soul becomes a guai. A restless hungry ghost. If you're not buried in your blueberried. If you're not what? Blueberried in your ancestral soil. You bitch. Good job. Your soul becomes a guai. A restless hungry ghost. But these mountains were too steep for carts and too narrow for litters. So families hired corpse drivers. The legend is the driver would use a secret Taoist talisman, yellow paper strips with cinnabar ink stuck to the foreheads of the uh oh, motherfucker. Yellow paper Oh Yellow paper strips with cinnabar ink stuck to the foreheads of the deceased to reanimate the muscles. This allowed the dead to literally hop their way home under the driver's command. Now if we peel back the supernatural layer, the historical reality is arguably even more unsettling. Skeptics and historians suggest the hopping was a clever illusion. The drivers would often lash the bodies to long, flexible bamboo poles, which were supported by two men at either end. As the porters walked, the bamboo would flex up and down. From a distance, in the dark, the bodies appeared to be jumping on their own. But whether it was mountain physics or dark sorcery, one rule remained absolute. You never looked a Jiangxi in the face. To do so is to invite the Poe to notice your warmth, and once a Jiangxi noticed the scent of the living, the hunt begins.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

Well I don't like that.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

The Jengxi was not just a vampire as we know them, but more of a creature that evolved into different stages. I know, right? This is this is a very fun topic, honestly. I hope you enjoy it.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

The first stage is the uncorrupted. Looks like a fresh corpse, skin is pale and slightly green, moves slowly, easily stopped by a simple talisman. Second stage is the hairy junkshi. The body becomes covered in long white and green, fur-like mold, becomes stronger and can jump over walls and roofs. Third is the flying junction. The fur turns black, the corpse begins to look skeletal, and can fly and use basic sorcery to manipulate the weather. And lastly, the drought demon, or ba. It's I believe Ba. It's B A. So its skin becomes scorched and bone dry, said to cause massive droughts wherever it walks. Unlike Western vampires who drink blood to survive, the jungxi is a parasite of Qi or life force. In Chinese medicine and philosophy, breath is the carrier of Ki. This is why in folklore a jungxi hunts by sensing the ex exhalations of the living. If you hold your breath, you effectively become invisible to them. A mechanic that became a staple of every jungxi horror movie that I have never seen.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Wow. How are you supposed to do that? Like, is like how long? Like how long are you supposed to hold your fucking breath for? Because you can't do that for very long.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

Yeah, you're either dying from holding your breath or you're dying because you're getting attacked. So one of your gang, you're dying.

unknown 15:08

Pick your poison.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

If you find yourself downwind of a Jiangxi, your survival doesn't depend on silver bullets or garlic. In the world of the stiff corpse, the laws of physics are governed by the Taoist alchemy. To find a creature of pure yin, the cool, dark, and dead energy, you need items charged with yang, the heat, light, and life of the sun. Let's reach into the Taoist trunk and find our survival kit.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

The most iconic weapon is the Fulu. This is a strip of yellow paper inscribed with complex calligraphy in Cinnabar ink. Why it works? Cinnabar is a bright red mineral, which is mercury sulfide, associated with extreme yang energy. You must slap this paper directly. Sorry, it's slap. I'm just picturing someone slapping, like slapping a fucking deceased person's head. Um anyway. You must slap this paper directly onto the junky's forehead. The moment the seal touches the skin, the spirit animating the corpse is cut. The creature freezes instantly, returning to a state of true death until the paper falls off.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

So make sure that paper does not fucking fall off.

SPEAKER_00 16:11

Yeah. Lick it and stick it. Sorry. Forget high-tech traps. The most effective barrier against the hopping vampire is found in your pantry. Raw, uncooked sticky rice. I feel like when I said sticky, sticky rice. Did I did I like spit?

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Like it was it like a was there like a whistle when I said sticky, like that old person was whistled. It was more like sticky rice. Okay, I'm gonna resay. I don't care if you keep that in, but I'm just gonna resay it okay. Forget high tech traps. The most effective barrier against the hopping vampires found in your pantry. Raw, uncooked sticky rice. I'm never gonna be able to eat or say sticky rice again without thinking of it.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

There's no way that the sticky rice isn't gonna stick with me.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

It's gonna stick tea like glue. In the folklore, sticky rice is a pure grain that absorbs the dark key or venom of the junction junk she. If you're bitten, you press a poultice of sticky rice into the wound to draw out the corruption. If you're being hunted, you scatter it on the floor. To a junk she hopping onto sticky rice is like stepping on burning coals. It burns their feet and forces them back.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

That's interesting. I wonder why.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

I don't know. Oh honestly, I don't know. Wait, hold on. Yeah, I don't think that I Well like I assume it's like what it's charged with, I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Like the yin-yang thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But like still, that's crazy. Out of all things, sticky rice. I like it.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

Practical. Yeah. And a word of caution, never use cooked rice. Once it's boiled, its power is spent. So yeah, it's the yang. I'm like taking fucking notes. I'm like, yeah, okay. These fucking vampires away. And whatever you do, make sure it isn't mixed with regular long-grained rice. The junkxi know the difference. I guess that rice isn't charged with yang. Okay, okay. Next, if you've ever seen a small octagonal mirror hanging over a door in a Chinese neighborhood, you've seen a gua mirror. These mirrors represent the eight trigrams of the I Ching, reflecting the order of the universe. Because jungi are creatures of chaos and wrongness, seeing their own reflection in a bugwa mirror strikes them with spiritual shock. It reminds the Poe soul of its own decaying state, often sending the creature fleeing back into the shadows. In Taoism, the peach tree is the tree of immortals. Its wood is considered the ultimate bane of evil spirits. A sword card from the heart of a peach tree can strike a junky where steel cannot. While a metal blade might just bounce off the leather hard leather hard skin. A peach wood sword pierces their dark energy directly. Say peach wood peach wood sword. Peach wood sword. Isn't it weird? Doesn't feel weird saying it. Peach wood sword. Yeah, it's weird. It sounds weird. I didn't when I was typing it out, I didn't notice that. But when I'm saying it out loud, I'm like peachwood sword. Like I think it's the wood in the sword, like because there's a W sword. Maybe that is why. I don't know. Wood sword. Sword. Sword. Finally, we have the biological alarms. The rooster, the ultimate symbol of the sun, a juncture's power evaporates at the first crow of dawn. There's also the black dog's blood. Ancient practitioners believe that the blood of a pure black dog possessed intense yang properties. Splashing in on junctshi acted like spiritual acid, melting the dark rigidity that allowed them to move. I don't know why I put that sentence in there, but oh well. It's a strange arsenal. Rice, paper, and mirrors. But in a world where your own breath is a homing beacon for the dead, these everyday objects are the only things standing between you and a cold hopping grave. You spooked yet?

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Yeah, kind of, to be honest. I think that's why I was taking fucking notes. I'm like, let me just make sure everything's good.

SPEAKER_00 20:08

Yeah, I mean you don't have a peachwood sword. I don't have a peachwood sword. I wonder if I can find one on Amazon. Probably, but I don't know if it'll be real. Understanding the junk she's arsenal is one thing. Understanding their senses is another. Unlike the cinematic vampires we know and love, hi Edward, we hunt with predatory eyes. The junk she is a creature of sensory deprivation. It it is blind, it is stiff, and is driven by a singular primal hunger for one thing that it no longer possesses the breath of life. If you find yourself in the path of a hopping corpse, you have to play by its roles. Here's how the hunt works, and how you might survive it without the full survival kit I previously provided.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

Rule number one, the breath is a beacon. Like I said before, the jungxi does not see you. It detects the key or vital life force excelled with every breath. To Jangxi, your breath is like a flare in a pitch black room. There's the hold your breath maneuver. By pinching your nose and sealing your lips, you effectively become invisible. The catch is you are human. Eventually your lungs will scream, and the moment you gasp for air, the jungxi, which may have been standing inches from your face, will strike with an explosive mechanical speed.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Fucking god. Okay, thank you. Because I literally knew I was like, okay, you cannot hold your breath for that long. Ew, thinking about it being right in front of you. Yeah, imagine glue.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

No. Absolutely. What if you could like, and then you can't breathe either, but like, what if like before you took your your breath before holding it, like you could like smell or taste the air? Shuts up like decay or something, and then you have to like sit there and not breathe out. Oh my god. Uh rule number two there's a vertical advantage. Because of their extreme rigor mortis, junkshi cannot bend their knees or elbows. Their movement is restricted to vertical leaps. Use high ground if you can scramble up to a steep ladder or sheer rock. Face the junky stiff-legged jumping becomes a liability. There's obviously a catch here too. They can jump high. Some legends describe Harry Junkshey clearing 10 foot walls in a single bound. If you're on a balcony, don't assume it you're out of reach.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

And they're just like regular, like they're regularly tall, like they're they're normal size, like you know, once humans, right? Like, yeah. Okay. So they're not like freakishly tall, they just have hops.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

Yeah, they got the hops. Rule number three, the terror of the mirror. The junkshi is a creature of wrongness. It is a violation of the natural order of life and death. You can show them what they have become by placing a mirror, specifically a bogwa mirror, in their path, and it causes them recoil. Again, I did talk about that already, but this is just, you know, you can use another type of mirror if I was gonna ask if you don't have that.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

What if I don't have a bogwa mirror?

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Yeah, it's it's showing that you can use a regular mirror as well. It's just not as effective. Like strong. Yeah, it's not as effective. Um folklore suggests that seeing their own decaying monstrous reflection shucks the post soul back into a state of temporary dormancy. It's a spiritual mirror image of the Medusa effect. Rule number four, the sound of the bell. Junkshi are highly sensitive to specific ritual frequencies. This is how the corpse drivers control them. If you can get your hands on a Taoist priest bell, you can try to disrupt their programming. If you ring it incorrectly, you aren't repelling them, you're calling them. A misplaced sound Yeah, a misplaced sounds hold on. A misplaced sound acts like a dinner bell for every stiff corpse within a three mile radius. So uh yeah. You can do it, but you better know what the fuck you're doing. But be careful, yeah. Don't fuck up. Yeah, or it's gonna be an inch from your face grabbing you. Shut up. Ew, I didn't look into this. I wonder if they like like they're like the mentors and like suck your breath out of you. How do you spell it, by the way? It's J-I-A-N-G S-H-I. Are you looking at a picture? Of course I am.

SPEAKER_01 24:02

Oh, yeah. I don't love that.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Yeah, I don't love that. Oh shit. I I just said about the mentors and I literally cover it next. I forgot that I put this in here. I'm sorry. I am sick. Please forgive me. I reread my notes. I love how your mind is like the same though.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Like you know what you want to know.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Yeah, I uh I reread my notes except for the very last page. I'm I'm about to end here. Um, so I didn't read the read this part. Um, so yeah, I apologize. If the junky catches you, it doesn't just bite. It latches on with outstretched arms, limbs that have strength of iron bars. It draws your key directly from your mouth or through deep, jagged claw wounds. Once your life force is drained, you don't just die. The stiffness is infectious. The dark yin energy settles into your own muscles, and within hours you begin a slow agonizing transformation. Transformation Fuck. Hold on. Transformation. I had a burp. I got Vicks all over my nose. Hot. The dark yin energy settles into your own muscles, and within hours you begin a slow agonizing transformation into a hopsing Mother? Hopsing Fucker. The dark yin energy settles into your own muscles, and within hours you begin this slow agonizing transformation into a hopping corpse yourself. Yeah. The mountains of Sung Si are silent now, but the stories don't truly die. Whether the Jungshi were a product of clever mountain porters or terrifying glitch in this cycle of life and death, one thing remains certain. The stiff corpse represents our deepest fears, that even in death we might not find rest. If you're walking home tonight and you hear a heavy thudding behind you, don't look, don't run. Just reach for your pockets, and I hope you brought a handful of rice, and for heaven's sake, hold your breath.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

Not long grain rice. Be fucking careful.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

Yeah. Handful rice, but better be sticky. Sticky rice. Uncooked sticky rice.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

Hi, Megan. Bye, Megan.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

Hi, are you on the camera? Hold on.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

Oh, you can hear her? No, I can read her lips. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Oh! Damn! I was like, how? I was like, how do you hear her?

SPEAKER_02 26:02

That's so funny. I'll see you later.

unknown 26:06

Meow.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

Dude, I can't bel I can't read lips for shit. I don't know how he can.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

I can't either, and he did it on your fucking glitchy ass camera. Dude, good job, by the way. I was um hooked onto your everywhere, and I really wanted to know details.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Good. I didn't want to put too much into it. Well, also, I wasn't feeling the best, so I think I did a good balance of like enough information without overdoing it. So thank you.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

No, it was wonderful. Yeah. Thanks. I'm cool. I liked it, and I had no fucking idea what that was. Like, I I've never heard of it, but it's really cool. I don't I don't typically dive into like Chinese lore. Yeah. So that's a fun one for me.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

Yeah, it was very interesting. I didn't know really I heard it before, but I didn't know anything about it. Dylan was the one who was like, I was like, I need to figure out a topic, and I can't. There's so many options. Like, this is such an open-ended topic that there's so much that it's so hard for me to decide what to do. So he helped me decide.

SPEAKER_01 27:06

Are you sure your memory's not mistaken? Did you know that memories?

SPEAKER_00 27:13

We were so pissed. I was like, do you know that memories?

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Dude, it was so fucking it was such perfect timing to just gas like the shit out of him. You just covered it, and then we're about to record again, and you're like, Did you know? And like, oh fun fact.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

And not just that though, like he hasn't listened to that episode, so whenever it comes out, like he's gonna be extra pissed now. It's gonna remind him of this, and then just be like, that fucking bitch.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

And then I'll be like, oh, maybe that's why that dumbass was laughing so hard. Yeah, oh yeah, because I is all gonna connect. Okay. Alright, well, moving on. Tonight I'm gonna be talking about cannibalistic monsters from Native American indigenous people named the Wendigo.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

Have you heard of it? Fuck yeah. Ben found one in the woods. No, it was just a dead deer, but they were like insisting.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Yeah, Wendigo, Skinwalker, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

Mm-hmm. They were like going nuts.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

The name Wendigo translates to solely for self, which makes sense because they were actually once human, then transformed, and they only take what it wants, which is ultimately eating human flesh. In a lot of movies, they're shown to have antlers, and I just want to say they don't have antlers. I'm not sure why they're portrayed to have them in movies, but that's literally not how they're described in folklore. In the original folklore, at least. That's interesting. I think that they did it to like make them look scarier, but I personally think they look fucking horrific as they are. Originally, they were described as extremely thin and skeletal, like someone starving, having gray or ashen skin stretched tightly over bones, with sunken or glowing eyes. They were often described as taller than a human, sometimes growing larger the more it ate, which is sorry, my catches meowed. Which is like what the lore is. Like, cause the windigo, and that's kind of why I asked you about yours. Um, the windigo is human size, and then it grows taller and taller and taller the more flesh it eats.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

That's creepy as fuck.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

It also has a frozen or decaying body, so it's sometimes said to have a heart of ice, and their skin could look rotting or frostbitten. And it was said to never feel full no matter how much it consumed.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

Have you read um what the fuck's that book called? Your herse soul to take. I think it's a one-to-go on that book. I'm trying to remember.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

I have not. I didn't even really I I talked about one book in here, but not something like cool like that.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

Yeah, it's a it's a smut book, so I mean, yeah, smart one to go on.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

It's going on my fucking TBR.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

You're gonna be like, this is terrifying, but I fuck with it.

SPEAKER_01 30:01

But why is it kind of turning me on?

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Sorry. Sorry to completely derail us.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

The lore of Wendigos comes from Plains and Great Lakes natives and is based around East Coast forests of Canada, Great Plains regions from the US, and the Great Lakes of both Canada and the US. And the craving of human flesh, because you know, I questioned it. I was like, why did they crave human flesh of all things? Is it like a disease? Was it like a brain thing? Did something happen? And it actually stems from starvation. To Native Americans, it was considered a crime to eat your fellow tribe members. I feel that obviously goes without saying, but sometimes people were left in harsh conditions and they got desperate. And I know we talked about this in episode one, fucking literally so long ago, but we truly have no clue what that's like. Like we don't know the mental and physical tool it takes on a body to be starving and shutting down. It's unfathomable to think about. But even if you were faced with the impossible as a member of your tribe, they would immediately shun you and ask no questions because they felt betrayed. They thought, how are you supposed to take care of us if you turn on one of us for your own benefit? I don't necessarily agree with that, but I it was so long ago, it was like back then you really had to stick together. It's just how it is. Because again, like we don't know what that's like. Like obviously, none of us wants to just fucking do that. So I don't know. It's it was a tricky thing for me to look into. It's it's uncomfortable. It's said that when someone gets a taste of human flesh, it's impossible to not want more. Even if your conscious mind doesn't, your body will. It's like it becomes this insatiable need for more. Just ask Jeffrey Epstein because he's probably not dead.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

Or everyone who eats McDonald's. I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

There's like that whole like thing going on about McDonald's.

SPEAKER_02 31:49

Yes! Because like everyone's addicted to it.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

Yeah. Oh my god, stop. I literally just proved everyone's point. I was like, love it though. No, but in all seriousness, um, the Native Americans believed it was damaging to the soul. And I can see why. That's something that humans were never meant to do, or you know, it yeah, that's a crazy thing. So if someone ate human flesh amongst your tribe, they believed you would transform into a windigo. Like they fully were like, they didn't give a fuck if you were the chief. Like you're getting killed. If you did the unthinkable, you would be outcast from your tribe, hunted down, killed, and burned. And specifically burned, because that's like the only way to kill a windigo because their heart is made of ice, supposedly. It was said to be a transformation of the soul and the mind. Uh like they whenever a Wendigo whenever you become a Wendigo, you don't care about other people, including your own family and friends that you once had. Wendigos are real, but not in the sense that movies and bid video games portray them. Um, the transformation that I talked about happened on the inside to their soul. Everything else, like the physical features and such, could have been from malnourishment or you know, just the fact that they ate human flesh. There's a short story that really popularized the Wendigo culture that I want to talk about. It's called The Wendigo by Algernon Blackwood. I'm hoping I'm saying that correctly. Um, it was published in 1910. Um, it's really not a long book. Um, I did not read it. I definitely got some cliff notes. I'm sorry. But um I did research it on my own though. I I want to read it, but it's it's not long. It's not long. I just I didn't have time. The story takes place in the wild forests and lakes of northwestern Canada, far from civilization. A group of five men are on a moose hunting expedition. There's Simpson, a young, inexperienced Scottish student, Dr. Cathcart, Simpson's uncle, a rational scientist interested in psychology, Hank Davis, an experienced American hunting guide, DeFago, a French Canadian wilderness guide who deeply understands the forest, and Punk, a Native American cook who stays at the main camp. The men travel deep into the region called Fifty Island Water, surrounded by dense forests and lakes. The environment is beautiful but also silent and intimidating. To increase their chances of finding moose, mice, if you will, the group splits up because whatever goes wrong when you do that.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

You said it's saying mice like fucking what's that me? I joked.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

I'm glad. Dr. Cathart and Hank Davis go one way. And Simpson travels with Defago by canoe to explore a remote region another way. At first, the trip was pleasant. Simpson admires the wilderness, and DeFago seems comfortable in nature. But as night approaches, DeFago becomes strangely uneasy. And DeFago's the one who he was the French-Canadian wilderness guide who like had a deep understanding of the forest and the way that it works and everything. So this was weird. At their remote campsite, De Fago senses something disturbing. He's like freaking the fuck out. He's on edge and he's nervously listening to sounds in the forest, which honestly that would probably be me too. I don't I don't like outside. I don't we know this. I don't do that.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

Touch grass, Alex. I'm just kidding. No, I need to.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Um, but then he smells a strange, unfamiliar odor in the wind, and he decides to speak about the Wendigo, a mysterious being whispered about by woodsmen. In the story, the Wendigo is described as a spirit of the wilderness that moves incredibly fast, calls people by name as if it knows who you are or is trying to lure you, forces them to chase it into the forest and drives victims mad or transforms them. And I did look into the whole like forces them to chase it into the forest thing because I was like, what do you mean? It forces you to chase it. Like, how do you do that? And it said in the folklore that if you make eye contact with the Windigo, it can control you. Like, and I don't know if you knew that because I didn't know that until I was looking into this.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

No, I I want to say I knew that, but I don't think that I did. Like, I you know, whenever you're like, I I knew that, but I'm like, no, I didn't know that. But you're like, wait, no. Yeah, isn't that fucking weird?

SPEAKER_01 36:09

Because I was like, what do you mean? Like, how are you gonna make me do like my stubborn ass isn't fucking going out? Like you're like, I ain't walking out my door, let alone in the woods. I ain't even opening my door. And it also can drive victims mad or transform them. Again, this is in this story specifically. Um, like any reasonable person after hearing all that, Simpson decides that these stories are superstition and tries to calm him down. But during the night, something horrifying happens. Simpson wakes up and hears DeFago crying in his sleep, but not only does he hear him crying, he also hears a strange voice outside calling De Fago's name. And I just need to know, what would you do if you were in this situation? Like if it were me and you, and like I was crying or something. And it was just me and you, like in this tent.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

Uh I'd probably quietly wake you up. Are you asleep crying? You're crying in your sleep, right? Yeah, I would like try to wake you up.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Okay, cool. I feel like I would ignore that fucking voice outside with all my might, smack you awake, pretend I heard nothing. You're so cute though. You were like, I think I'd quietly wake you up and I'm like, no bitch.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

Only because I don't I don't fucking know what what is outside. What's outside? That's why I would quietly try to wake you up. Otherwise, like because I wouldn't want to get the outside voice inside, but like and it knows that you know, like you don't want to do that. Yes. Yeah, so that's why I would do it quietly. Not not for like your sake, but because for our sake.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

Yeah, okay, fair enough. Fair enough. Um, the voice outside was described as huge, strange, and irresistible. So suddenly, DeFago just fucking runs out of the tent and disappears into the forest. Like he just woke up and made like chips and dipped. And I'm telling you right now, if you ran out of that fucking tent, I don't know if I could go after you in these.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

I was just about to say, honey, I don't I don't think I think you're gone. Because especially because like you don't go in the woods anyway. So if you just did that, I would be like, she's fucking possessed. She's gonna die anyway.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

Like, she can't handle the channel.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

She's at the end of her days. When she sees that she's in the woods, she's gonna have a heart attack anyways. Your face is like funny. Sorry, I'm like roasting you for not being outside. No, that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

I deserve to be roasted. Did I tell you the other day I like looked on Life 360 and it was like a fucking Wednesday and it said I'm gonna leave my house this Thursday? Like, that's embarrassing. Like, I need to actually touch grass.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

Well, you went for a walk recently, so you're good. Oh, I did. I did do that. That was really nice. You went for your yearly walk.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

Fuck you.

unknown 38:49

Love ya.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

No, you went on the hot dog walk too. That was outside. Oh, I did do that, and I like talked to people.

SPEAKER_01 38:58

Um, but yeah, like obviously I would want to protect you, but like if you have a death sentence, I'm like, I'll see you in the next life. Love you, bye. But then like Simpson's a good guy, so he hears him screaming in the distance. Like, Simpson's still in the tent, DeFaco fucking dips, and he hears him screaming, saying, My burning feet of fire. Weird. So apparently the cries sound both painful and ecstatic, just like echoing throughout the forest.

SPEAKER_00 39:26

Yeah, this is like fully above my pay grade. I would be calling other people for you. There's no way I'd be coming for you. Sorry, but no no no no.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

No, I mean, there's just no like we know who we are, and we know we love each other, but we we know our limits, and that's fine.

SPEAKER_00 39:39

I absolutely adore you to the end of the world, but like in this situation. This is the end of the world. Yeah, like this is it, we're done. I will call like the authorities for you, but you're gonna have to wait for me. Call the peace. Yeah, I ain't coming. I'll call them and I'll find service somehow if there's no service. But yeah, I uh I ain't going in the woods for you.

SPEAKER_01 40:01

Yeah, no, I get it. I'm not going in the woods for myself either. So the next morning, Simpson does search for him. He finds tracks in the snow, and first it's De Fogo's footprints, and then there's another set of massive tracks beside them. The strange thing is that the stride becomes impossibly long, as if DeFago is being forced to move faster than any human could. And eventually the tracks vanish. And Simpson, when he's like following these tracks, he hears De Fago's voice high above him, like as if it was coming from the sky or like treetops. So Simpson was fucking terrified and tired, and so he returned to the main camp and reunites with the other members. They formed a search party and they went back into the wilderness to find Defago. I don't know why he didn't just go back. Like I personally probably would have gone back and be like, we need to go all together to look for Megan. Like, I don't think I would do that alone, because what happens if I get fucked up too, and then we're both just dead?

SPEAKER_00 41:07

Yeah. Or lost in different directions and circling around.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

Yeah, yeah, that'd be awful. So, Dr. Cathcart tries to rationalize the events. He suggests that the Windigo legend may just explain cabin fever or psychological hysteria. Okay. Um, but the forest began to show disturbing signs like strange sounds, sudden gusts of wind, and De Fago's distant cries echoing just throughout the entire forest again. One night something approaches their camp. They see DeFago stumbling towards them, but something about him is very wrong. His movements look unnatural, his face seems distorted, almost like his skin is melting off of his face or just loose around it, and he smells of wild animals in decay. Davis becomes convinced and says, That's not DeFago. When they question the figure, it whispers that it has been with the Wendigo. Suddenly a powerful wind sweeps through the camp and the figure vanishes into the forest again as if pulled away by an invisible force. Above them, they hear Defago's voice crying, My burning feet of fire. Moving forward, the men eventually find the real Defago. He is alive but in terrible condition. He has severe frostbite, delirium, total loss of memory, extreme exhaustion, and more. He can barely speak and cannot explain what happened, and within weeks he dies, his mind permanently destroyed by whatever he experienced. Only Punk, the native cook, seemed to understand the truth. When Defago returned to the camp, Punk smelled the same terrible odor and immediately fled in terror. He knew what it meant. Defago had seen the Wendigo, but the story never clearly explains whether the Wendigo is a creature, a spirit of the wilderness, or a psychological terror caused by isolation. The mystery remains unsolved. Only Punk could be known. But yeah, so this short story really popularized the Wendigo in Western horror, and prior to this, it was again just like mostly popularized within indigenous cultures in northeastern North America. So this like made other lore, if you will, because DeFago's face was seen to be like loose around him, but like the actual lore from Wendigos and Native Americans, like they they said that it was to be like really tight on your face. So like there are a few things here that don't really line up and just kind of like broadened the lore.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

Yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

So where was this at? It was just a story. It was written um 1910 by a black woman. Yeah, that's just it doesn't say like it doesn't say words. Oh uh Canadian wilderness.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

Okay, I didn't remember if you said that or not. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you fucking better be. Um, oh my god, okay. Have you ever heard of the game Until Dawn? Yes. Okay. I fucking watched this entire gameplay like two years ago. Um, Fayez Jev played it, and I watched it because he's hilarious. He's known for like rage quitting and shit like that, but he also sometimes gets early access to scary storyline games like this, or specifically from Dark Pictures. This was like super massive games or something. I actually don't remember who made this one, but um, he is very entertaining if anyone wants to go watch him do literally anything. Um, the game is beautiful yet horrifying because it's a lot of death and scary stuff, but it's so story-based. Like your decisions have consequences, so there are different endings. It's so cool. There's like 12 or more different endings, which that takes a lot of work to build a video game like that. Like, that's so cool. The main character is actually Hayden Penateer. What the fuck is her last name? Penateer? Yeah, I think so. Do you know who I'm talking about? Yeah. The one, like the ice princess. Yeah. Well, the ice princess, like in the movie. She's not the ice princess. That's uh oh my god, Michelle Trattenberg. What's her oh my gosh, I'm Obama. I'm just kidding. Yes, Michelle Obama. Um but I remember whenever I watched this gameplay, I like pointed at the screen and was like, I know that girl. I felt like the fucking Leonardo DiCaprio meme, like where he's going like this.

SPEAKER_00 45:18

Yes, you probably looked exactly like that too.

SPEAKER_01 45:20

I probably did. So I just want to talk about this game really quick. Um de I'm definitely going to spoil the concept of the game for everyone. Um, but that doesn't mean you can't play it because there are different outcomes. Um, but if you don't want to listen to me yap about it, probably skip forward like three minutes or so. But I I just I love it because there's eight characters and they can literally all live if you play your cards right, which is probably nearly impossible, I imagine, but it is possible. The game begins with essentially a prank gone wrong. A group of teenagers are staying at the remote mountain lodge owned by one of the character's family named Josh. During the prank, Josh's twin sisters, Hannah and Beth, run into the snowy wilderness and disappear after falling off a cliff. One year later, Josh invites the same group of friends back to the lodge to honor his sisters. At first, the group thinks that there's a mysterious masked killer stalking them because strange traps, threatening notes, and just all-around terrifying shit starts appearing around the lodge. As the night goes on, the friends split up while exploring the mountain and uncover disturbing secrets about what really happened there. But eventually, the characters discover that the mountain is home to Wendigos. It's literally all about fucking Wendigos. It's such a cool game. Um, so these monsters were originally miners trapped in the mountain after disaster decades earlier. The curse transformed them into fast, powerful predators that hunt humans. And obviously we know what they want. But I think that's interesting because it was like a it like in this lore, like in this sense, it was like a curse that did it. Like it not like something that happened based on like I'll let me let me explain. Let me just keep going because it yeah. Um Okay, I was gonna say I'm not.

SPEAKER_00 47:09

I know where you're going, but I don't know. You know what I mean? Okay, go.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

Yeah. So one of the biggest twists of the game is that Hannah survived the fall from the beginning of the game, but after being trapped and starving in the mines, she ate Beth's body and became the main Windigo hunting the group. Which was wild, by the way. So I thought it was just interesting that, like, originally in the game, the Windigos became a thing because of a curse, but then it became a thing based on eating human flesh. Like the original Native American lore.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

Okay. I mean, do you think that like if one person's cursed and you eat them, then the curse comes to you? Like, is that it's possible.

SPEAKER_01 47:51

I I honestly think it's just a human flesh thing, but I wonder if like it just didn't make like I wonder if they the game just wanted to be a little different. The masked killer isn't actually trying to murder the group, it's Josh himself staging elaborate horror movie traps as revenge for the prank that led to his sister's disappearances. He wants to psychologically torture his friends and expose their guilt. However, Josh didn't know about the Wendigos, so the situation fucking completely spirals out of control because everyone's like, oh my god, like someone's trying to kill us. That's Josh fucking around, but Josh doesn't have any fucking idea that Wendigos are actually trying to kill everyone. So that's why you don't fuck around and find out. Just saying. Uh, I feel like Dylan would like that game. Oh my gosh, it's so fun. Um, well, I didn't fucking play it, but I did have to Google this one part though, because I haven't seen any gameplay. Uh, but I guess the final confrontation like of the game usually happens at the lodge when the surviving characters try to escape the Wendigos, and if done correctly, the lodge explodes and destroys the creatures and everybody lives. Like I the I think the gameplay I watched, like one person lived. Like it's so it's so hard because you try to make like rational decisions and you're like on a time, like it's like a time crunch, or like you have to like spam a button or like you'll fall and die or something. Like it happens so out of nowhere, so it's really it kind of gives you anxiety, I I would imagine. But um, it's such a nice game. I mean, I say nice, but I think it's just the concept is cool and it's very well done. Um, my version of this game that I like is probably Life is Strange because that's not um like bloody and gory and stuff, so yeah, that's a fun one. I just wanted to talk about that too, because they do a really good job with lore of Wendigo's also, except for like the curse versus like eating human flesh thing, but then it comes back around to that. I don't know, but um brother, there's actually another video game that I want to give an honorable mention to, and it's Fallout 76. I mostly mentioned this for you because I know you're a Fallout fan.

SPEAKER_00 49:52

Yeah. It's funny because when you're talking about gore and stuff, I immediately thought about Fallout.

SPEAKER_01 49:56

Oh, really? Mm-hmm. Nice. Um, and I don't like people in it. Do you do you turn into a windigo? No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 50:07

You can like eat like uncooked meat and stuff like that. I think it's people. I'm trying to remember. Um, no, you don't you can get like sick. I don't I'm trying to remember now. I can't remember. It's been a long time since I just like I don't usually do that. I don't like eat raw. I always cook my meat and stuff, but that makes sense. I uh there's a show out now, you should watch it. It's pretty good. But I'm sorry, go ahead, but the Fallout show. Like it's Fallout.

SPEAKER_01 50:35

Oh, oh, oh, okay, yeah. Um, so in this game specifically, Wendigo's appear a few times throughout the game, but the main purpose of the game, according to Uncle Google, is to try to rebuild civil is to try to rebuild a civilization in Appalachia, West Virginia, years after a nuclear apocalypse. So just wanted to give a little shout out because it's just cool that there's so many things like books and movies and video games and like just random stuff centered around this lore. I think it's so fascinating. Um, but yeah, that's my deep dive into the lore of Wendigos. Do I think they're real? Obviously. I think everything is real because I want it to be. Um or was the Wendigo created as a warning of cannibalism and to scare people into thinking this could happen to them? I guess in some symbolic symbolic way it could. I mean, don't be greedy, don't abandon your humanity, and don't resort to eating your friends and family, even in desperate times, or you'll die. Yeah. They say the windigo isn't just in the stories. It's in the shadows, in the cold, and the spaces between the trees, and it remembers every time we give into hunger, fear, or greed. The forest is quiet, but the wind speaks. Don't listen too closely, or you might hear the windigo coming for you. Oh boy. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_00 51:54

Oh boy, coming. Oh boy, oh boy. So I got myself like a little corgi mom shirt. Okay. Um, I ordered it. It's gonna be here. Let me see. I just got a notification for it. Um, I think Monday. But I told Dylan like we're trying to not spend too much money right now, but anyway, I um this weekend's the anniversary of my mom passing, and um, I was like, I really feel like I just need something to kinda brighten my mood and like look forward to.

SPEAKER_01 52:28

For sure.

SPEAKER_00 52:28

You know, look, come on. It's a tri-color Corgi. Let's see if you can see it.

SPEAKER_01 52:33

Oh my gosh, I love that.

SPEAKER_00 52:35

Yeah. That's a vibe. I need it. It's got like a little bun, like a little mom bun and everything. I'm obsessed with it. Um that's really cute. Yeah, it's coming. Oh my god, it's saying it's coming Saturday, so I'll be able to have it like this weekend. That's good. That's exciting. Yeah, because like I think Sunday it'll be like six years since she's passed away.

SPEAKER_01 52:56

So that's insane.

SPEAKER_00 52:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:59

Wow. It doesn't feel like that long ago. I mean, maybe to you it feels like a long time, and also not probably grief is weird like that.

SPEAKER_00 53:08

Yeah, it's a very weird sensation.

SPEAKER_01 53:11

I bet. Well, we can celebrate her next weekend.

SPEAKER_00 53:17

Hell yeah. Yeah, I planned on having a drink for her. Okay, let's spin the wheel.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

Alright, let's get aliens. Um, so we got amusement, porks. Um, I almost stopped recording like a dummy. Fucking Megan.

SPEAKER_00 53:33

So ground me.

SPEAKER_01 53:36

Let me see.

SPEAKER_00 53:37

Get me to my bed. Go to bed. You gonna have a glass of wine with it?

SPEAKER_01 53:42

Ooh, I guess I'll allow it. Alright. Well, make sure to tune in next week. If you're enjoying the podcast, please make sure to give us a five-star rating on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

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SPEAKER_01 54:01

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