Episode 35 - Corridors of Madness: Beelitz and Ashland's Haunted Legacy

This week, we're checking into two places where the discharge paperwork may have been lost sometime around 1957. First, we wander the decaying halls of Beelitz-Heilstätten, don't ask Alex to pronounce it, Germany's sprawling hospital complex packed with wartime history, abandoned operating rooms, and enough creepy corridors to make your GPS question its life choices. Then we cross the Atlantic to Ashland State Hospital, where Megan tells us tales of former patients, unexplained encounters, and lingering spirits who have kept the rumors alive long after the lights went out.

From questionable medical practices to even more questionable paranormal activity, we're digging into the history, hauntings, and the unsettling feeling that maybe that shadow at the end of the hallway isn't part of the tour.

Grab a flashlight, keep your tetanus shot up to date, and try not to follow any mysterious voices into the basement.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

I'm Alex, and I'm a and we are two filthy horse. You're all beyond the veil now. Welcome to Happy Hour guys. Uh so real quick. I am like wobble. Typos on our phone. Now we have a whole bunch of sister inside jokes. But uh, so anyway, I uh I'm shaking like super bad. It's been for like the last 30 minutes. I went outside to check my garden. Dylan's putting up a f like a fence around my garden. He we were not weren't sure if we had enough for the whole garden, so I said at least do the tomatoes. Um because that's what the deer usually eat. I'm getting pissed off about them eating all my mates. But anyway, so I'm out there like getting like we bought we all these jagger bushes grew up around my garden for some reason. It's like choking out. It's not like in the garden, but it's around it, and I'm worried my cucumbers are gonna like wrap around the jagger bushes and stuff. And I just don't want to deal with that. So I went out there and was like cutting them out and shit. And it is like fucking hot. Like, I don't know if you've been outside, but it's like hot and really, really humid, at least where I'm at. It is it says that the weather app says it's 83 degrees, but it feels like 89. It is not even like peak of the day, and it's like the real feel is almost 90. It is horrible outside. Um so yeah, like for those of you who don't like going outside, I'm happy that you had the inside, I guess, because I was like loving summer so far. Like, I was like, Yeah, fuck yeah, summer's great. And then like yesterday and today happened, and I was like, you know what? Fuck go back to the cold. It is too much for me. It's too fucking humid.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

So it's that's the problem. It's so humid out.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Yeah, but speaking of summer vacation, like most of what I have for Yappy Hour today is just that my days are blending together. I don't know left and right. Like I literally am like struggling so bad to keep the days of the week straight. And and I still have to get up early and work and shit. Like I'm working all the time, but I have like besides work, I'm doing other stuff and keep track of Ben, and he's spending sleepovers places and doing stuff, and I'm like I just I don't know how to explain it. Like I just feel like I'm maybe it's overload or something, I'm not sure. But like probably it's peaceful, like I'm loving it, but it's also like crazy chaotic. So we have lots of swimming celebrations, writing, like for the podcast, reading, cookouts. Um, it's been so hectic, but honestly, I love it too. Except for the the humidity today.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

Yeah, it is really humid. I can't get off of that. It was really humid yesterday, too, if I remember correctly. I think I went outside yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 2:59

Yeah. I don't know. And Ben spent like a week with his well, almost a week. It was like four days with his grandparents, and he loved it. He came home today. He's over at his friend's house right now. But he came home and he was like, I just missed you so much. And I he saw me every day. Does it matter? So it was so cute, because I mean I missed the shit out of him too.

unknown 3:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Um in the middle of the like sleepover week though, he did come home because he got like sick and threw up, and um we weren't sure if he had a bug or not, but it ended up being I think it was just either heat, too much sugar because grandparents, like he had those like do you know those little panda cookies that have chocolate in them?

SPEAKER_00 3:38

No, but I remember Barb was looking for them at Costco when I went with her.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

Okay, so she got some for Ben, and I don't think that like he was controlling, like she normally keeps track of what he's eating, you know, she's good with that. But I think she got busy and he was not refraining. I was not there, so I don't know, but I think he over ate them and then got sick. Either that or he got sick because he he drove like he like got car sick. It was right after we got out of the car and stuff, so I don't know if that was what it was. I have no clue, but he came home for a night, then went right back over the next day, and it's been crazy. Um, but it's been nice spending some time with Megan, you know, and just like getting to know me a little bit more, I guess. But um, I also I really felt like a part of me was missing while he was gone, so I'm super glad he's home.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

No, I bet.

SPEAKER_01 4:25

And also, he's only four houses down the street from me, so it's not like we're not seeing each other all the time.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

It's across the main road though, okay?

SPEAKER_01 4:33

It is, yeah. That that puts like a whole bunch of distance there. But what do you have for your happy hour? Sorry, I just like wanted to get all that out so I didn't interrupt you.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

You don't need to be sorry at all. I do feel like I kind of have a lot, so uh this episode will be coming out on June 22nd, so it will be my anniversary. I plan to get Icelandic hot dogs, and we'll just rock out with our cocks out. No, I'm kidding. But well maybe I don't I don't know, but we're just gonna enjoy the day and talk about our baby on the way because this is the final anniversary without her. Um, we enjoyed five so far, and we'll be together for six years this year, so I think it'll be fun to celebrate with kids in the future, but yeah, we usually like since we went to Iceland for the honeymoon last year, we went somewhere in West Virginia and we just um sorry if you guys hear my air conditioner, I can't turn it off.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Um but do not turn that shit off.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

Don't don't I literally can't. I actually had the door shut and I tried to turn it like up to 73, which is criminal, but I didn't want anyone to hear the AC whenever they listen to the episode, so I was trying to make sure it was up, and then it kicked on at 73, and I was like, oh my gosh. So I just opened the door and it's still going on, so I'm sorry, but I can't fix it.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Um listen, guys, we live on the east coast, it's hot here.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

It's very hot.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Hot and humid. And humid. Humid. No, seriously, it's fucking bad. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

Um, yeah, last year we got Icelandic hot dogs, and we just kind of like went and camped out for the weekend, which was really fun. And this year, I honestly don't know what we're doing. He asked me today, and I was like, he was like, I have some ideas, and I was like, I'm getting Icelandic hot dogs. Like, I don't I don't have any plans, so but yeah, happy anniversary to us. Um, it is number two being married, so I'm very excited. Happy anniversary! Woo-hoo! Uh, thanks. Also, I'm going to a friend's house today to eat some food and get some baby clothes. Uh, she did have her first baby in March, and it was a girl, so she sometimes gives me stuff and it warms my heart because I just love getting things from others like you know that were used or worn, and it's just more special to me whenever it's like used by someone I care about. Like, I just love that so much. So I'm excited to go see her and and uh get some some worn clothes. But um I didn't oh you did know about this, but I did have a baby appointment today. That was fun. Um we Tyler was just so nice, like he's always great, but he was like asking the the doctor, he was like, How can I support Alex? And like, what do I need to do mentally or even physically to better prepare for when the baby's here? And then he was like, should we like go toward the labor and delivery unit and stuff? And and she was like, Yeah, like that's that's a good idea. Like, definitely, like if that's like because they know I'm you know a fairly anxious person, they were like, it'll probably like ease anxiety, like you you should go and do all that stuff. But he was just so honest, and I kind of feel bad like putting my business out there like this, but it is what's happening in my life, and I do think that if it weighs heavily on me and I want to say it, I should say it, so I'm just going to. But Tyler was so straight up with her and was like, Alex gets a lot of pushback from people on what to do with this baby, and he was like, including epidurals. How do you feel about that? Like, can we talk about that?

SPEAKER_01 7:48

And I was like, Well, you already did bring that up to the doctor too, though. Does he know that? I brought it up, he does, but it's a different one. He wanted to do it. He wanted like information too. I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 7:59

Yes, he did, and they were so kind about that because, like, you know, I'm not necessarily going back and forth, but I do go back and forth on what's best for the baby, because that's really all I care about. But she was so sweet, and she was like, uh, girl, like if you want to do that, you should do that, like you should do what you want. And I'm like, it's funny because like all of my family has done it, and we've never thought anything about it because we're very science-oriented people and we grew up that way, but like now we have like introduced other people into our life, like friends and and like other sides of family, and like we've like really branched out and gotten to know other people, and um like I love those people so much, and so it's just sometimes hard, and um I don't know, it was funny though. Like, she went into detail about how like no matter what happens when you get an epidural, like your blood pressure will lower, but how they can counteract that and stuff, and um, you know, pros and cons of things. It was just like informed consent, which was nice because like I am aware of the fact that like contractions are very helpful for the baby, like it helps them kind of like navigate through whenever you're experiencing that pain and like those like endorphins and stuff like that. Like it is helpful to go through the contractions, so I don't know what'll happen because I have a fairly high pain tolerance. Like, I might go in there and I might go to like seven centimeters. Like, I don't know, like I don't know myself like that yet. So it was just really nice to have somebody like advocate for me, especially my husband. Um, and not that I ever feel like he doesn't, but it was just really nice. Like you don't really hear about like the man being like, hey, my wife's going through this, like what can we do to help her? And I was like, I looked at him and I was like, shut up. Like I didn't mean it, but I was like, dude, like it was just so he was so honest and abrupt, and I just wish like every woman had someone who did that for them. But yeah, I just wanted to give a shout out. And if anybody ever does, if anybody listening ever feels like other people are telling them what to do with their baby and like what they should do, and you're an overthinker like I am, and you've thought about these things and it hurts to hear, like just know you're not alone, and that at the end of the day, if you don't know what you want to do, that's okay. But you know, you'll figure it out and you'll make the right decision. So that's kind of what I'm banking on because I think in the end I'll always make the right decision. It's just the journey getting there might be a little hard.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

Honestly, I mean, and claps for Tyler for uh sticking up and and like supporting you so fully in whatever decisions you choose to do. Um, I will say, like, you know, way back in the dark ages when I was pregnant, Ben, I didn't Shut up, Megan! I did question the epidural or not too, and then I did choose the epidural. Now, I will say, and you know this, I know you know it. Um, from the very beginning, people will tell you what to do with your baby. And they will keep telling you forever. But it does get easier in my opinion. So I wanted to tell you that. Like in the beginning, it's like overwhelming because you're like you're br you're bringing a new life into the world and everyone's got opinions on it and all this other shit, but it will click and and I know it'll click easy and quick for you. And it I think it already has clicked for you, to be honest. Where you kind of just like don't care about other people's opinions. You're just like, Yeah, I know what's right for my baby, and here's the thing with motherhood, uh parenthood in general. You will like know you're doing everything perfectly bright, and you'll still have guilt. Like guilt, yes, yes, so you'll because no matter what, there's always pros and cons in every fucking situation. Yeah, every situation. So, like, no matter what the situation is, like, because I co-slept with Ben and I got a lot of shit from like literally everyone for it. But you know what? I he's eight, he sleeps in his own bed now, he's perfectly fine. I don't give a fuck. Because I only had one baby, and I wanted to spend all that time with him and get as many cuddles in as I could, and I embraced it, and I will not take back any of that time. Like, I loved it, you know what I mean? And and that's for every mother to decide and parent, like father to to decide what is best for them and their lifestyles. So you'll figure it out, and no matter what, even if you are doing it right, you will feel some guilt. Like, because that's just mom guilt and it's there, but you will be fine. Just trust your gut, you know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Thank you. I do think I'll, or I have, or I will get to that point, because I think I have on some things, but there are other things that I'm not gonna talk about here that I'll talk about with you later. You already know some things. I know you definitely know how I feel about some things and how I'm like completely on the fence, and I'm like, I don't know what to do, I don't know what the best thing is because there's just so much pushback on everything, and I'm like so bad. Yeah, and no matter what it decides. I just want to make the right decision. Like, that's all I care about. I just want to do the right thing, but what is the right thing? There is no right thing, it's whatever's right for us, and I'm like, shit! Like, I just wish I had all the answers because I want to do right by my kids, so but yeah, I think I'll I'll figure it out along the way, and I know I have support in like every corner of my life, it just depends on what kind of support I want from each person because everybody I love and care about are so different, and it's just that we're all just so different, and I'm I'm grateful for that because it does challenge me. Like I am very challenged a lot of the time, and um it's yeah, it's just it's a journey. It's a journey I didn't quite expect, but I'm I'm working through it. I am excited though, because baby shower invites are going out tomorrow. I wasn't gonna show you, but I am gonna show you. So this is the front of it. It looks janky because I've been going like this with it because I have these wax seals.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

Dude, the wax seals are so fucking cute. I can't take them.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Thank you. They're like these pink wax seals that I got from Amazon with a little bow in it, and then the envelope is like a sage green, and then I wrote in red for the um like addresses and stuff because it's strawberry themed or like farmer's market vibe. It's and then like they'll open the you guys will open the envelope. I was like, what the what is the word? And um it'll be like red, green, and pink. So then it'll make sense why everything on the envelope's a different color. But yeah, it's really cute. Thanks. I'm excited. Me too. I'm super excited for that.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

I'm excited to get it. I'm excited for your shower. I just bought something yesterday, the day before.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

Oh my gosh, I saw that last night, but it was so late at night.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

I saw that you bought me something, but it said like I put to keep it a secret, so yes, it did say that.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

It was like this person wishes to keep it a secret, and I was like, who the fuck is this? And then I saw you, and I was like, Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

Well, I I mean I don't care if you know, but I was like, I'll just mark it a secret, so you could be surprised.

SPEAKER_00 14:37

No, it's fun. No, it's fun. I'm excited. So yeah. It that's like the end of August, so I'm excited about it. That's all I keep saying. But this is like the only time I'm gonna do this, you know, like this is the only baby shower I'm gonna have. So I might have a little baby sprinkle or whatever the fuck they call those.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

There's barbecue things, like diaper something, like diaper.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

It's just something for like a celebration of life. I'll be like, no one bring anything, just like come to the thing and honestly not with me.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

What I planned on doing if I had more was I was going to do like a little cookout or barbecue, like a diaper raffle thing where people didn't have to bring baby stuff, they just brought a pack of diapers and then they were entered for like a prize or whatever. That's what my plan was. That way you get stocked up on diapers. Like if every s if everyone brings like a small pack of diapers, then you're stocked for diapers right now.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

That's very helpful. Yeah, that's so helpful. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

But I think that's great ideas for like second-time moms and third time, you know, down the line. Yeah, let's get let's get going.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

Get into it. Let me look really quick. I wanted to see how yeah, that was like 15 minutes. That's not bad at all. Because I do feel like mine's a little lengthy, but who knows, because I talk so fast. But tonight's, and I'm saying tonight, even though Megan already spelled the beans, said it's not allowed to speak of the day yet.

SPEAKER_02 15:57

Yeah. Hey, we're working on it.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

I really just wanted to bring it back to episode two. But this time I wanted to go out of the country. So I'm taking you to Germany to visit. Please bear with me. I had to look up like seven different pronunciations of this. Um, it's called Belitz Hail Staten. So sorry. There's like semicolons above it. There's like dashes, there's hyphens. Like, I don't know what I'm doing, but I tried my best.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

Did I ever show you my family Bible that is like generate like great, great, great generations? No. It's in German. Like it's in German.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

That's so cool.

SPEAKER_01 16:41

And they like used to put in like the dates, you know, like when someone was born or married or anything. So it has all of like the family history in there of people I don't even fucking know. I'll have to show it to you. My grandma gave me. That is so cool. Mm-hmm. Cause she because I like she knows that I'm like into the like hit family history and stuff like that, and do the DNA's and shit like that. So she was like, she made me like a whole like uh tree, like a family thing. I love that. That's really fun. I have it right here, a family family tree. It's my binding. It goes back. Yeah, and it goes back. Like, I'm sorry, I'll let you do your thing, but I have to show you.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

No, I want to know.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

It's like into the 1610. Like 1610, I think, is the oldest one. It's Jacob Jansen. Oh my god. Jensen store or something like that. Like, yeah, 1610 is the oldest person in here.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

Holy fuck, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Yeah, so she like researched the oh, I'm joking. I'm joking. There's a 1584 in here too.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

Damn it.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Gertrude Andreessen or something like that. I don't know. But either way. Yeah, shout out to my old family. Hope they were good people.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Hope that they were good people. And if not, well, roll in your grave.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Yeah. Okay, go ahead.

unknown 17:56

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

If you've ever seen photographs of vine-covered hallways, shattered windows opening onto forgotten operating theaters or entire buildings slowly reclaimed by the forest, there's a good chance you've seen this abandoned hospital. And there's not a chance I'm gonna try to say it again, guys, so just look at the episode title and rewind like a minute to hear me say it again. It's not only compelling for how it looks, but also the strange journey of a place built to heal thousands of people that eventually became associated with war, dictatorship, abandonment, and stories of ghosts wandering through empty corridors. To understand why this hospital feels so eerie today, we have to start at the end of the 19th century. And I did put the like the name of the hospital in there, but I'm not feeling froggy, so I'm not gonna leap. You're funny.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

Sometimes you say things that are like clever but but sound like old too. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Oh my gosh, I know. Tyler and I were on the way home today from the appointment, and I was like, I don't know, man. That just like really grinds my gears. And I'm like, ew, like I said that so seriously. Like, who am I?

SPEAKER_01 19:01

I know. I say shit like that too, whenever like I'll get fired up and I'll say something so stupid. I'm like, if I was in a fight right now and said that, like I'd be literally laughed at.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

Somebody would be yeah, someone would be making fun of you. That's funny. So at this time, you already know that turbulue was one of Europe's deadliest diseases. And that is what we call tuberculosis around here for new listeners. Just go listen to episode two. Before antibiotics exist before antibiotics existed, doctors had little to no effective treatments. One of the most popular approaches was the sanatorium, which is a place where patients would rest, breathe fresh air, eat, and spend long periods trying to recover. Trying to recover is the key there because many of them didn't, especially with Super TV. In 1898, construction began on a massive medieval why am I why can't I so big? On a massive medieval complex southwest of Berlin. This project was enormous. And if you Google what this hospital looks like, oh my god, it is so pretty. Like, I don't think I've ever seen a building prettier than this. Like, it's insane. So the site eventually grew into what was essentially a self-contained medical city. There were dozens of buildings spread throughout a forest landscape. Separate wards existed for men and women, which is interesting because usually with like tuberculosis, like they would really just like throw people all together. But there were dining halls, kitchens, laundry facilities, power systems, surgical departments, and housing for staff. Because again, the staff is just they just live there because it was turkey was rampant. Patients were believed to benefit from sunlight, clean air, and nature, large windows, flooded rooms with light, covered balconies allowed patients to spend more hours outdoors, even during colder weather. And it's no exaggeration. Doctors insisted everywhere that you needed sunlight when you had TV. Like if you look at any sanatorium, like any pictures of anything, there were massive windows. At its peak, thousands of patients passed through the complex. Imagine arriving there in the early 1900s. You would travel through dense woodland and suddenly encounter a thralling collection of elegant red brick buildings rising among the trees. The place would have seemed helpful, a destination where people came to fight for their lives. Yet beneath that optimism was that many patients never recovered and tuberculosis was relentless. For every story of healing, there were stories of decline and death, and perhaps that's one reason why the site accumulated a darker reputation over time. The first major transformation came with the outbreak of World War One. The sanatorium became a military hospital, so thousands of wounded soldiers were treated there. One of those patients was a young German soldier who would later become one of the most infamous figures in history. Adolf Hitler. Which, if I'm being honest, I was like, I kind of want to like look at this because of that.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

But his neck records.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

In 1916, after being wounded during the war, Hitler spent some time recovering here. At the time, of course, nobody could have predicted what role he would later play in world history. Still, it remains one of the most frequently mentioned facts about the complex, and that is how I found out about this. It was because oh Hitler walked these holes. Fucking dumb. But I was like, okay, I'm in I'm intrigued. I fell victim. The site continued operating through the decades that followed. Then came World War II. Again, the complex was used extensively for military medicine at this time. Germany's wartime devastation touched nearly every corner of the country, and this hospital was no exception. By the end of the conflict, another chapter was beginning. The area fell within what became East Germany, and this is where the story becomes even stranger. Following the war, Soviet forces took control of the complex. For decades, it served as one of the largest Sovietary Nope. That's not a word. Yep, definitely just combine that. For decades, the hospital served as one of the largest Soviet military hospitals outside the Soviet Union itself. Thousands of Soviet soldiers, officers, and their families received treatment there. In some way, the site returned its original purpose, which was healing the sick and injured. But unlike its earlier years, much of what happened there occurred behind the curtain of Cold War secrecy. The hospital became a world unto itself. For local Germans, portions of the site were inaccessible. A vast medical complex existed in the forest, serving a foreign military presence for nearly half a century. So when people describe the hospital as feeling haunted, part of that sensation likely comes from the sheer number of lives that pass through it. You have tuberculosis patients, wounded soldiers, military personnel, doctors, nurses, and generations of people experiencing fear, hope, recovery, and death within the same buildings. Almost everybody was having the same but different experiences at the same time because there were just so many people there. Then in the early 1990s, everything changed.

SPEAKER_01 24:06

I was born in the 1900s.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Yow In the early 1990s, everything changed. The Soviet Union collapsed and Russian forces withdrew, and suddenly the enormous medical city lost its purpose. Many buildings were abandoned, so nature took it upon itself to move in quickly. Roofs failed, walls cracked, trees emerged from courtyards, vines crawled across brick facades, and the forest began reclaiming what humans had built. And that's when insert hospital name here became famous for a completely different reason. Urban explorers, photographers, and filmmakers discovered hospital name. I just can't say it. It's so like so difficult.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

No, I should have used that for that plasticity thing, that science thing.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

You said that so well though. Thank you. Like at least that later half of the word. I was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Watch, we'll we'll find out. I was completely mispronounced.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

That's okay. It sounded right to us. Urban explorers, photographers, and filmmakers discovered it. The site looked the site looked less like a hospital and more like the setting of a gothic novel. Seriously. Everybody go Google it. The buildings appeared caught somewhere between civilization and wilderness. But history alone isn't responsible for the site's reputation. Ghost stories followed. And as with many abandoned hospitals, they spread quickly. Some visitors claim that they heard footsteps in empty hallways, others reported seeing figures standing at distant windows. There are stories of former patients appearing briefly before vanishing. Some accounts describe the sensation of being watched while walking through deserted wards. And a recurring tale involves shadowy figures moving through areas where no living person could be found. And I'll I'll get to that. You're standing in a decaying building surrounded by forest. The walls echo strangely, wind moves through broken windows, birds nest in abandoned rooms, the building itself seems alive. Under those circumstances, ordinary sounds can feel supernatural. Just like when your husband isn't home and you hear a creak. Because I will die on that hill. Once either's not home, everything's dangerous. Like that was me like that. You've said it before.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Because Dylan was over at his parents' house, I sent you that snapshot of me reading. Yeah. And then like I kept hearing something, and I was like, I someone's in the house. I showered with the door unlocked, and I was like, someone's in the house. And they came in when I was showering. Yeah, first of all, they're not going to. Mika will definitely let me know someone's coming up. If someone's even in the yard, she'll let me know. Um, and I also have an alarm system. It wasn't set, but even when it's not set, like when you open the door, it says like door opened. Yeah. So I can usually hear that. So like I knew nobody was in my house, but like I couldn't see reason. I was like, oh my god, someone's in my fucking house.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

I get it. That's where my brain goes to. It doesn't help that shit like this happened. In the 1990s, the surrounding forest became associated with a serial killer known as known in German media as the beast of Belitz. I said the first part, I'm not saying the second part. That's all you guys are getting. Wolfgang Schmidt attacked several victims in this region, further contributing to the sinister image of the area. These crimes obviously didn't have anything to do with the hospital, but it played into the lore. I have it in here again. I was so ambitious thinking I could fucking say this name, but I can't. So the hospital is essentially a time capsule of European history. Within a single location, you can trace the rise of modern medicine, the tuberculosis crisis, two world wars, Nazi Germany, the Cold War, Soviet military occupation, German reunification, and the gradual decay that followed. Very pew.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

That's what you get for talking so fucking fast. I was like literally like, I was like, goddamn, she's like that. She how did she do that without a mistake? And then you the smallest thing you did.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

Oh my gosh. Very few places, not pew, very few places contain so many layers of history. Every building represents a different era, and every corridor connects multiple generations of people who experienced radically different worlds. A tuberculosis patient in 1905, a wounded soldier in 1916, a Soviet officer in 1975, I did that on purpose, happy birthday, Dad. An urban explorer in 2005, all walking through the same structures. Due to all of these different lives lost and lived here, let's talk about the ones who never left. So we don't have the lady. We don't have a lady, sadly. No. But there is a woman dressed in a pale hospital gown appearing at the ends of hallways. She's known as the woman in white, aka the waity. The waity I couldn't wait to say that. She's a waity. Usually she's seen only briefly. When she's seen, she stands motionless near a doorway or at the far end of a corridor. When people approach, she either vanishes or turns a corner and cannot be found. I I can fucking stress about this. Like I every time I'm doing like I'm looking into stuff like this, I get like feel like they're right behind. Yes, yes, I feel like I'm like not okay. Like I feel even bad reading it right now. Like I'm spooked in it and it's broad daylight. Like I don't know what my problem is, but I'm here completely alone. That's what my problem is. Yeah, I feel that. Yeah, yeah, completely alone. Okay. Different versions identify her as a Taburke patient who died before receiving treatment. While others claim she was a nurse searching for patients during the night. Which I don't really know what to think here. Um, I think if she were a nurse, she would have been seen doing other things and standing around, but I know I've heard stories before about nurses just chatting around at like nurses' stations and stuff, so who's really to say? I don't I don't know, but I don't want to see the waity. I'm scared of the waity. Now at the children's ward, visitors have reported hearing laughter, running footsteps, or quiet conversations when no one else was present.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

No, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

Um these stories became so common among paranormal enthusiasts that some began claiming that the spirits of children still wander the grounds, which obviously historically that's us when we start to record and we need to like mic check. Uh historically, sanatoriums did treat younger patients, which may explain why these stories emerged, but every fucking haunting is scarier with children. It's so ominish, like like ominish, it's so ominish. Nope. Wow. It's so ominous. I wish I could explain why it's so unsettling to me. But I feel like it's just common for adults to think like that. Like, in order of scary from least to most is easily man ghost, woman ghost, child ghost. But the creepiest are little girl ghosts, and I won't be arguing my case. That is what it is. Because like, I would rather encounter a little boy ghost than a little girl ghost. I'm not I'm not about it. I can't, I can't do it. I can't do it. Which is funny to me because I'm like, oh, man ghost, that's the least scary. But if I see a real man in public, I'm freaking out.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

Man ghost. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 31:36

Oh my gosh. I'm the least scary.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Innocence, because like if you do think about it, like in real life, you'd be the least afraid of kids, then the least like then women, and then men. Or am I saying that the right way? Yes, you are. Yes. And then for like ghosts, like for hauntings, it's like completely reversed. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

Exactly the other way. Because it's like you shouldn't you shouldn't be here, like children. Like you're like, whoa, this is the afterlife. Like, what are you why what do you mean you're not like playing with toys somewhere and I can see you? Like that's weird. Like, no.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

What made you want to stay?

SPEAKER_00 32:14

So Urban Explorers specifically frequently tell stories about a tall, dark figure appearing in former operating and treatment areas. This figure is usually described as unnaturally tall, standing in doorways or moving silently across rooms. He's known as the shadow in the surgical wing. A photographer captured a silhouette in a doorway that wasn't visible at the time the photograph was taken. Others describe seeing a figure through a window from outside only to discover the room was inaccessible. And what do you even do in this situation? Like if you're on a tour, I think that would be really awesome to see. Like, but if you were alone or with a few people and you were just like investigating? No. Absolutely not. I think I would die. Yeah, no, I I couldn't do it. Like, I would love to be walking outside. Like, say that like you're taking a tour here or something and it's nighttime and everybody's outside, you know for a fact that like nobody's in the building based on like the reputation of the tour, like the place or whatever, and you just happen to look up and you see a shadow in a in a room, like I would love that. But if I knew I had to go in there, no.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

It depends. Like, if I'm in like if I feel even though it's like a false sense of security, because like just because people are there does not mean I'm any safer. But it feels like especially if there's like a tour guide, you know what I mean? Like if there's like someone who's in charge of you, like you're like, I'm so safe. But it's like but like the ghosts know this person. They're allowed to be here.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

That's 100% like what my reasoning would be, I think. Visitors have said that some abandoned patient rooms feel occupied despite being empty. People describe hearing faint breathing behind them. I'm getting I'm freaking the fuck out right now. People describe hearing. There's nothing behind you.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

I will tell you if I see anything behind you. Yeah, you're good.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

They describe hearing faint breathing behind them or sensing someone standing nearby, and when they turn around, nobody's there. Some say the sensation is the strongest in former TB wards where patients once spent months or even years waiting to recover. And the story taps into the site's original purpose. Thousands of people spent long periods isolated in these rooms, many wondering whether they would survive or not. And I think this is especially scary to me because it's like breathing. People with tuberculosis didn't breathe very well. So is it like a raspy breath that they hear? Is it like a sharp inhale and exhale? Like, I don't I can't. Like it's freaking me out. Like, I underneath that. Because I don't know what would be worse. Like a raspy breath. Oh, I would lose it. Ugh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:55

I think a raspy one would be really scary.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

I think it would too, because it's like, is that the death rattle I just heard? Like, was that like your last breath that you just repeated to me? Like, I don't I don't like that. And this is kind of what I was talking about earlier, by the way, like the windows thing. Photographers have repeatedly reported seeing faces in upper story windows. So, like someone's walking outside, they notice a face watching from a distant window, they raise their camera and then they discover the window's empty. When they return later, they find that the room behind the window is inaccessible or filled with Debras. This story, specifically, because this happens like all the time here, is so widespread that visitors actively will scan the windows while exploring. Which again, I would love to have that experience if I was with my tour guide mommy, because I'm not I'm not about it. The abandoned architecture almost encourages it. Broken glass, shifting shadows, and vegetation create countless opportunities for visual illusions. I can't talk. I'm leaving it, I'm not repeating myself. So there's also a ghost here called the night nurse. I don't like this at all. Um according to legend, a nurse continues making her rounds long after the hospital closed. Witnesses describe hearing footsteps moving steadily down a hallway, stopping at room after room. And the pattern sounds purposeful, as though someone is checking on patients. But when the footsteps reach the listener, they abruptly stop. So nobody is found. There's footsteps coming at you, closer and closer, louder and louder, and then when they're in front of you, they just stop.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

Nope. I just drop over dead.

SPEAKER_00 36:40

I literally literally stresses me out.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

No, no, no, I'd be terrified if I'm not gonna die. I feel like I would.

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Yeah, I'd be like, Am I on the fucking upper floor window? Like, I'm I'm gone. Like, absolutely not. Like nothing could make that okay with me. If I was in a group of people, if I if it was daytime, like nothing. Like that would actually freak me out. But I want to experience something like this so bad, but I'm such a bitch.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

It's okay. We'll go with the guys too.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

Oh my gosh. Could you imagine like Tyler and Dylan though? Because like, what would they do if they had a barrel experience? Like, they're so like like literal, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

Uh realistic. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's very word. And it's like, it would actually be hilarious to see that.

SPEAKER_00 37:30

Yeah, like what would they do if they just heard a scream? Well, they'd be like, oh, someone's in here. Mogging losers. The most dramatic stories involve the underground service tunnels that once connected portions of the complex, there's always tunnels in an abandoned hospital. Strange figures move through the tunnels and voices can be heard from deeper sections where nobody is present. Some people claim that they become disoriented and felt as though someone was watching them. Others describe hearing German or Russian voices whispered from dark passageways. Whether any of that is actually true, which I don't know why people would lie. Like, I don't I just like don't see people going to like forums and stuff and being like, yeah, I heard this and this, and like they're lying about it. But like tunnels are naturally unsettling places, especially in an abandoned hospital where you know death has occurred.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

Tunnels are like the number one thing that gets me. Like in every thing that we do, if there's a tunnel, it stresses me out.

SPEAKER_00 38:24

So yeah, it's just endless. It's like you don't know what you're getting at the other end of it, and there's only one way through. Like it is completely it's not cool. But you know, like tunnels, like stuff like that, like darkness, echoes, isolation, it can make like ordinary sounds seem new supernatural, but I do think it probably is. But I do want to point that out for like the logical people listening. Like, I am aware that like that happens, but it's spooky and I won't be elaborating.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

Well, yeah, I mean, obviously, like just to say that just straight out to our listeners, like we understand that people could be making up stuff, but like it's there, it's out there, it's what is part of the story, so we're gonna say it.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

So, say they've experienced.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Yeah, we're talking about experiences and stuff like that. Does not mean that we're like telling the lie, we're just telling you what we know. What we see.

SPEAKER_00 39:14

Yeah, I'm not lying. Oh yeah, okay, and then the last ghost is the soldier who never left. So because the complex served as a military hospital during both world wars and later under Soviet control, many ghosts, you know, probably are soldiers, in my opinion. One recurring tale describes a wounded soldier sitting quietly on a bed or bench. Witnesses notice him only briefly, and when they look again, he's gone. Some versions identify him as a German soldier from World War I, others claim he's a Soviet. The details change depending on who's telling the story. I really don't underst like I don't I don't know. I haven't seen him, okay? Um, but what stays the same is the image. A man who arrived for treatment and then somehow never left. So I think that's puzzling, and I don't love it. But it's spooky, and there's a lot of ghosts here. And again, Google it. It's so pretty. I would definitely go here, but am I going to Germany anytime soon? No. But it's really cool. Maybe I can astral project there, maybe that's what I gotta do. Not when I'm pregnant, I won't do that, but yeah, you gotta wait. Today parts of the complex have been stabilized and redeveloped, and not everything remains abandoned. Some sections have been restored, and visitors can legally explore certain areas, including elevated walkways that provide views across the historic grounds. Yet even with the redevelopment, the atmosphere remains distinctive. The forest is still there, the old buildings still dominate the landscape, and the contrast between restoration and decay gives the area a uniquely unsettling character. It's not a ruin frozen in time, it's a place caught between past and future. And again, I would go there. I think it's fucking gorgeous. And you can do it legally.

SPEAKER_01 41:00

If you're going, I'm going. Okay. Let me get prepared. Oh god, show me what you got.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

You know, switch your position, take a sip, wipe your mouth, get your tool together.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

I swear to God. I always feel like when I go to talk, like I have like my like my slava gets like my slava. It's like too like thicker or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

Like it's so sad about it. It's either like extremely thick or it's like running out of your mouth. Like not yours, but like I know there's no in between. Like I it's horrible.

SPEAKER_01 41:38

I hate that. Like the sloth. That's the only thing I hate about doing the podcast. Everything else I love, and I'm just like, oh my god, why every time do I do this? Yes. Deep in the heart of Pennsylvania's cool country, the mountains don't just hold stone, they hold secrets. And if you drive down the wide hold on. And and if you drive down the winding roads of Fountain Springs, past the encroaching tree line, you'll find a skeletal monument to human suffering. Uh little side note, I have been doing a lot of Pennsylvania ones because I like like Pennsylvania stories and like clo closer to me, because I've been trying to find like things that we can go to. So I've like I've been looking like things close to me.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

Um Meanwhile, I'm like out of the country. Like shit we want to go to but can't.

SPEAKER_01 42:23

Yeah. So thanks for caring. Yeah. Ashland State Hospital, later known as St. Catharines. Built in 1883 to mend the broken bones of miners pulled from the dark bellies of the earth, it quickly became something else entirely. For over a century, these walls absorbed the screams of trauma, the quiet despair of the sick, and if there's truth behind the local legends, something much more permanent. Today, the roof has collapsed. The paint peels like dead skin, but locals say the energy never left. They talk of shadow figures pacing the third floor ruins, the phantom scent of antiseptics in cold sp and cold spots that freeze the breath in your lungs. Did the hospital close its doors in the 90s, or did it just trap what was left inside? That's right. Tonight we're talking I'm sorry. That's right. That's right. Tonight we're walking the pitch black corridors of Fountain Springs. When you think of an abandoned hospital, you might picture a modest clinic or a couple of decaying brick wards, but Fountain Springs, Fountain Springs is a beast. Imagine a monolithic Man, I know how to say this fucking word. Imagine a monolithic six-story concrete fortress stretching nearly 200 square Hold on, fucking Christ. Imagine a monolithic six story concrete fortress stretching nearly two hundred thousand square feet across twenty acres of choked overgrown wilderness. Enough room to fit four point eight million smudge sticks, which we may actually need. Yeah, it's it's huge. Damn. From the air, its shape is Is deeply unnatural. A massive three-winged concrete propeller, as if the building itself is a warning carved into the Pennsylvania hillside. So I had to do a deep, deep throat clearing. Oh, I like the way you worded that, you little freak. Because of this design, the interior is a literal labyrinth labyrinth. Because of this design, the interior is a literal labyrinth. Six floors of identical intersecting corridors that branch off into dark, mimicking a hall mirrors. You could walk a straight line for what feels like miles, only to turn a corner and realize you are hopelessly turned around in a maze of rusted gurnies and peeling lead paint. That's very ominous. Yes. Down the dark belly of the structure sits a sprawling basement that has never seen the sun. While up on the roof, an abandoned helipad sits cracked and empty, a final silent launching pad for souls that never made it out. It was built to hold over a hundred patients, but today it holds something much heavier. The hospital isn't haunted by one ghost, it's haunted by the entire town's collective history. The ghosts aren't individuals, they are a mosaic Is that how you say it? Okay, I thought so. The ghosts aren't individuals, they are a mosaic of every person who walked through those doors on a stretcher and never walked out. It's not just a haunted building, it's a time capsule of misery that refuses to stay closed. If you've never been to the cool regions of Pennsylvania, it's a beautiful, rugged place, but historically it was brutal. Which yeah, I'm sure you like know about. I know, like shit, like uh you were not alive for it, because it was when I was a kid. Uh like a kid kid. Um there were like miners that like got trapped in a mine. You probably heard of it. Like it was out near like where we grew up. It was like really just sad. Like the whole situation was a really sad situation. They died. Um, yeah, I think they were able to save like one or two of them, but I can't remember. It's been so long now. But when I was researching this, I wanted to look into it and I just didn't have the time to, but I I will because I'm I just like it's something that was like a really like it was it was shaking me as a kid, I guess. Like it was like a shock, you know? So I want to look back into it now.

SPEAKER_00 46:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

In 1883, the state opened Ashland State Hospital for a very specific reason, a very grim reason, to treat injured miners. Back then, working in the mines meant facing cavens, explosions, runaway cool cars, and slow, suffocating death from black lung. If you were pulled out of a collapsed shaft alive, this hospital is where they brought you. For generations, these walls absorbed an unimaginable amount of sudden physical trauma and quiet despair. In the 1960s, they tore down the original stone buildings and built the massive 191,000 square foot concrete hospital it stands there today. Eventually it became a long-term care facility called St. Catharines before finally closing its stores for good in the 1990s. And that is when the tape loop of history got stuck. Explorers who sneaked into the building, I don't know if it's snuck or sneaked when I googled it. Okay, listen, listen. Whenever I Googled it, it says that you can use them interchangeably, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 47:19

Honestly, I do think I do think I remember hearing about this, but I always said snuck.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

I say snuck too, but then I was like, it's snuck a word, like because I've literally put that was like, it's snuck a word, and then I googled it, and then it was like, like, I have learned so much like English, I guess, doing the podcast because I like have to like look into actually how words are are done. So anyway, I will redo this.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

No, it's you're totally right. I did know Meghan's right, so everyone knows. Don't fucking come for her. It's funny, but it doesn't sneak sneaked doesn't sound real. No, it sounds very fucking wrong. But that sounds like our little tangster. She goes, I woke up and I'm like, you're way too old to be doing that.

SPEAKER_01 48:01

Or like when someone says slippy and says slippery, like snuck kind of sounds like that. Like when I said when I originally typed snuck, I was like, okay, am I doing like a slippery, like slippy versus slippery thing here? And snuck isn't really a word, it's just what people in like our small little town used to say. So then I googled it, and then I was like, well, sneak doesn't sound fucking right either. No, it doesn't but anyway snuck it. Snook. Anyway, it was heavily boarded up, all described hold on. It was heavily boarded up, all described the exact same phenomenon on the why did I say it this way? Explorers who snuck Oh, okay. Explorers who snuck into the building there before it was heavily boarded up all describe the exact same phenomenon on the third floor. Sorry. I don't know why I struggled with that. Breaking the sentence up fucked me up, but I got it out. Uh you'll be standing in the dark, your flashlight beam cutting through the dust, looking down a hallway that seems to stretch on forever, and then at the very edge of your light, a shape moves. It's not a misty ghost, it's a solid ink black silhouette of a person. People report watching these shadows sh people report watching these shadow figures calmly pacing back and forth across the hallway, stepping from one abandoned patient room to another. The terrifying part, when you step closer and lock your flashlight beam directly onto them, they don't vanish. They don't react to the light, they just smoothly step behind a door frame, and when you chase them into the room, because who the fuck is chasing them into the room? Right! It's completely empty. It's just dry rotting drywall in a rusted bed frame.

SPEAKER_00 49:42

I just can't imagine being in a place like this, being like, oh my god, a random fucking figure materialized in front of me. Let me just run at it.

SPEAKER_01 49:53

Nope, not me. I'm sorry, we're not that brave, guys. No. We love we love the spooky shit, we really do, but like we're not brave enough to go chasing it down.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

Maybe we'll get there. If we maybe, maybe, I don't know. Maybe we can like be like Zack Baggins and one day just be like, fuck you, ghosts.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

I don't know if I'll ever get there, but no.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

It's pretty scary. They can hurt me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:16

Imagine you're walking through an abandoned building, it smells like mold, wet wood, and decades of pigeon droppings. Standard creepy building stuff.

SPEAKER_00 50:25

This is foul. Pigeon droppings.

SPEAKER_01 50:29

But then you step across an invisible line into a specific wing on the second floor, and the temperature plummets so fast your breath turns to steam. Suddenly the smell of raw is completely gone. Instead, your nostrils are hit with a sharp, overpowering chemical sting of medical antiseptics. Rubbing alcohol and fresh bleach.

SPEAKER_00 50:47

Ooh, I kind of like it though.

SPEAKER_01 50:49

Mm-hmm. Or like gasoline. I love the smell of gas too. Oh yeah, gas is like rubbing alcohol and like gas are like two of my like favorite smells.

SPEAKER_00 50:57

Oh, I really like the smell of Tyler's armpits sometime. I know that that's really weird.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

But I mean I know I mean that like makes sense, like you know.

SPEAKER_00 51:06

Like I don't know why I don't smell it too often, but the other day, oh my gosh, I was like actually stinking a little bit. And it's because I forgot to put deodorant on the night before after my shower, because I always will put deodorant on after a shower, even if I'm just going to bed. And I'll spray perfume. Like if you know, if you're a baddie, you you know like you gotta smell good all the time. Anyway, though, I was sitting next to him on the couch and I went to go give him a hug, and he was like, Oh, you stink, and I was like, I was like, How dare you? He was like, No, let me smell it, like I like it. And I was like, You're weird, get away from me. Like, get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 51:39

But anyway, yeah, I don't mind like Dylan's like when he does have like BO, I don't mind it either. Like, usually I smell the deodorant, but sometimes, you know, if you're sweating really heavily through the deodorant, you can smell it. Yes, but it doesn't bother me, like, it doesn't smell like stink because he's my personal.

SPEAKER_00 51:55

Unless it if it's like really bad, I'll be like, hey, you should probably put some deodorant on before you go out there. But it's like that's so rare. Like that just doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_01 52:04

It smells like a pristine operating hospital room in the 1970s.

SPEAKER_00 52:08

I thought you were talking about Dylan's armpits. No, I'm so sorry. I know, I was worried about that.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

That's why I paused too, and I was like, how do I rephrase this? No, no, no, you're fine. Because I like literally was like the next sentence is so fucking stupid right after we just talked about that. Honestly, we can just cut it out if you want. If it doesn't No, I'm keeping it. We're keeping it all. You take three steps forward, completely disoriented, and the smell vanishes. It's a localized pocket of a past reality frozen in time. And right as you're trying to process that smell, that's when the audio turns on. Dozens of witnesses have reported hearing the unmistakable sound of busy nursing station of a busy nursing station, sorry. The muffled low murmur of voices discussing charts, the rustled papers, and a distinct squeak, squeak, squeak of rubber wheels on the floor, like a heavily metal gurney being pushed down the hall towards you. Like you can. Oh my god. Yeah, it's a residual haunting. It's not an intelligent spirit trying to haunt you. What did I just say? It's not intelligent. I like literally did not catch it until like moments later, and then I was like, what? It's not it's not an intelligent spirit trying to haunt you. It's just the sheer volume of human energy expanded in the building over a hundred of years, playing back like a scratch DVD on a loop.

SPEAKER_00 53:32

No, thank you. It's like happening right now, maybe. Like maybe it's like currently happening.

SPEAKER_01 53:38

Yeah, so you can hear like squeak, squeak, squeak, squeak. Ew. But we but we can't talk about St. Catharines without talking about the ultimate nope moment, reported by almost everyone who has spent time in there after dark. Because the building has been decaying for decades, the floors are entirely blanketed in Debris. Glass from shattered windows, chunks of ceiling tile, and millions of flakes of dried peeling paint. It is physically impossible to walk through this building silently. Every single step you take sounds like a crunch. There are multiple logged accounts of investigators sitting in total darkness doing an EVP session where they record dead silence to see if the voices appear on the tape. They will say into the darkness, is there anyone with us? And out of the pitch black wing on the floor, oh hold on. And out of the pitch black wing of the floor, ten feet away, they hear it. A crunch. A crutch. Heavy, delicate, or I'm sorry, heavy, deliberate footsteps walking over the broken glass, coming directly out of the darkness straight towards them. No flashlight, no warning, just the sound of someone or something wearing heavy boots, taking a casual stroll through a condemned building.

SPEAKER_00 54:53

Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

Mm-mm. I could I would like I would be I don't know if I'd free like in those moments, like do I freeze and like I don't like I I panic and like can't move? Or do I fucking hightail like run it out, like run out, like or jump out a window. Like what do you do? Like I don't know what I would do in like that if I was that scared, but if I heard that, like I think that that would hit like a really scared part of me.

SPEAKER_00 55:18

And to where you might just freeze.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

Yes, and I don't know what I would do.

SPEAKER_00 55:25

Oh. If you were by yourself and you didn't have anybody else to look after, I think that you might freeze. But if you had like Ben, even though he would never be there.

SPEAKER_01 55:36

If Ben was there, I would absolutely like if Ben's there, I have all the power in me to move into the me, then I'm like, what do I do?

SPEAKER_00 55:45

I know, why is that? I do the same shit. Like if I have people to take care of, like, I'm not even a well, I don't want to say I'm not a parent yet, but you know what I mean. But like I also feel like that. Like I'm like, if I have anyone I'm responsible for, but I probably because of like our nephews and niece and stuff, like I, you know, have had them a lot over the the years. Yeah. So I guess I kind of understand like the the maternal feeling. But I'm like, yeah, I would hightail it out of there if I had someone to take care of. But myself, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

Yeah, that's I I really don't know what I would do. Needless to say, that is usually the exact moment I I mean the investigators decide it's time to leave. Bye. So I'd be I'm assuming running out of there. But honestly, I really think I might freeze and not know what to do. So who knows?

SPEAKER_00 56:33

Dude, I would make like a baby and head out.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

Oh my god. Some of the most compelling firsthand stories come from the final years the hospital was operational as St. Catharines. Former nursing assistants and night shift staff have shared accounts of patients on the upper floors ringing their call bells around 3 a.m. thoroughly confused. When the nurse when the actual nurse would enter the room, the patient would point directly behind the door or into the corner and ask, Who is that lady standing over there? Why does she keep coming in here? The patients, fully lucid and not on any hallucinogenic medication, described a dark, solid silhouette of a woman who would quietly stand in the shadows of the room and watch them.

SPEAKER_00 57:12

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 57:13

And then smoothly glide into the patient's like the attached patient's bathroom. When the staff checked the bathrooms, they were always completely empty. Mm-mm. No, so someone was like haunting the fucking patients. The other one.

SPEAKER_00 57:29

Like what are you yeah, what is exactly your goal there?

SPEAKER_01 57:32

Yeah. I don't know. Like I it didn't they didn't like there's nothing like saying that she did anything to them or you know, I mean like it's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 57:44

Or do you think it's something ominous?

SPEAKER_01 57:46

Oh just thought I don't know. Like that's I don't know. Like it could have been like, you know, like a a ghost nurse or something that was just making her rounds, or it could have been something like a guide or you know, a haunting ghost. I don't I don't fucking know. Like I I don't know. But it's interesting, and I wish I could find more information on it, but yeah, that's all I could find. A common report among the exploring community involves the old elevator banks in the center of the Y-shaped layout. On the third floor, multiple explorers have documented seeing a figure that appears to be peeking out from the empty elevator shaft or the corner of the hub. One first hand account details a photographer setting up a tripod in the central hallway. Out of the corner of his eye, he saw a tall, dark silhouette step out of a room, walk a few paces, and stand perfectly still in the middle of the corridor. I would fucking die, I'm telling you. Like just standing there watching me. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 58:45

Assuming it was his Snapchat background. Yeah, like that's exactly what I thought too. It's just like dead weight, like dead arms, just dead stare. Yes, it was horrific.

SPEAKER_01 58:57

We pictured the same shit. Yes. And assuming it was his friend, he called out a name. The shadow figure slowly turned its head towards him, held the position for a few seconds, and then literally dissolved into the darkness of the hallway rather than walking away.

SPEAKER_00 59:12

Bitch. Could you imagine seeing that? But instead of like them vanishing at first, they like look at you and then like run at you. That would have been so much worse. How dare you put that in the car?

SPEAKER_02 59:31

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 59:33

My heart would stop. Like it would literally just like seeing a fucking ghost in something wrong with you in a real life jump scare.

SPEAKER_00 59:42

God. But no, before you painted that disastrous fucking image is what I was going to say. But imagine seeing that and they're like right in front of you, but like before they disappear, they like pock their heads to the side a little bit and just like like oh my god, like the bent neck lady in the haunting cowhouse or whatever it is. Like, I always am like, it would just be so much worse if they if their head just like snaps to the left or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:06

And like not slowly, like a quick like unnatural.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:12

And then you hear a crack somewhere or something like, oh my god, no. What if they did that and then ran at you?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:18

Got on all fours backwards. Too many of those stupid fucking like reels online of like people playing horror games and like that shit happens to them, and then they can fall out of the back of their chair.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:29

I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:30

Like we do like I'll be watching the I'll be watching the fucking like reel and I'll f I'll jump back. So like you can imagine playing the game. I can't. I can't do it. Oh, we have to though. Honestly, we we really do. It'd be so funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:44

I want to watch you play. I'll come over to the game.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:49

Oh my god, you I get scared from like fucking whatever that sh that game we play is, and it's not even that scary compared to other shit. No, it is at first. This is spooky. It is. It is. I'll be like, no, he's haunting. Today the local town is completely locked Fountain Springs down. They've installed massive, incredibly loud, motion activated sirens all over the building, and the police will arrest you for trespassing faster than shadow figure can cross a hallway. If they run at you. Yeah. So the conc the concrete mammoth sits up on the hillside, surrounded by weeds in a chain link fence, slowly losing its battle with time. Okay. Dylan's heading out. Hi, Alex, fuck off. Hi, bye.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:34

Make sure you don't have me get it. That's what you get. You trip over her because you were mean to her aunt.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:39

Ben, uh Alex said, not Ben. Alex said that's what you get for tripping or being mean to her aunt. No, I almost stepped on her. I literally felt like that. Yeah, he almost actually stepped on her. He probably would have broken her back if he did that. No, it was her foot was underneath my foot. I like felt it and jumped forward so I didn't hurt her. Love you so much. I think you for the drink. I I tried to, I took the chance of collapsing myself to keep from hurting the dog.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:04

Dylan, shut up. That's what you have to do as a parent. Just kidding. He doesn't even know I'm talking shit and he starts talking shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:13

That was chaotic. Like my phone rang, I closed it because it was like a spam com. Mega bars. And then Mega starts going crazy, and then Dylan opens the door, and then it's just a whole bunch of chaos. Anyway. Handcap one more sentence, actually. Okay. I'm joking on a boba, hold on.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

I can't yeah, that's just a popping bubble. Yeah, popping pearl.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:36

Whatever. Which means whatever's walking down those 200,000 square feet of intersecting hallways finally has the whole place to itself.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:47

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:47

I don't like that. I do. I thought that was brilliant.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:51

It is brilliant, but I don't like the picture.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:53

No, I was like, how can I make this kind of creepy at the end? I always feel like it's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:56

Like I always feel every single time you have like these intros and outros, like I feel it in my nibbles. Like I was like, I don't like it's everywhere. It's all over the place. It's unsettling.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:11

I need to like do better at um what's that called? Giving them, like saying them. Uh not performing, but I don't know. I don't know the right right word. What? Delivering. Yeah, delivering, yes, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:29

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:30

Sometimes I nail it with the delivery, and then other times I struggle or get very interrupted because my life is chaos. So that's okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:38

I like it though. Like I like how you do things, but I understand. I always feel like there's room for improvement on my end too. It's just how it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:44

Yeah, always gotta. I mean, it's I'm sure we'll we'll just keep getting better. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:49

Oh, I think we've drastically gotten better. Like, it's it's really awesome to see how far we've come. I mean, dude, this is episode 35. Before you know it, we'll be at 52. And it's like, holy shit, most people like don't do this for as long as we have, and it's just really that makes them very proud of us.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:04

Yeah, it's so fun. Especially because it has not been without like issues, you know what I mean? Like it's like trying to work around schedules and schedules and schedules, schedules. Shut the fuck up. Okay, time to spin the wheel. Spin it. Oh guys, this is the new wheel. Oh yeah, we got a new wheel, guys. I pin in. Okay. Um we got bim, bitches in the matrix.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:33

Bim! Bim Bim Bim! Bim for. Stay tuned.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

Part four.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:40

Make sure to tune in next week. If you're enjoying the podcast, please make sure to give us a five-star rating on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:47

And don't forget to follow us on Facebook at 2Filthy Horrors Podcast and Instagram at 2FilthyHorrors.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:53

If you guys have any topics or anything that you want us to add to the wheel, feel free to send them. And next time we update it, I will add them on there. Um, also, if you have anything that you want us to talk about with abandoned hospitals or creepy, spooky hospitals, let us know at 2FilthyHorrors Podcast at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:11

If you got it, haunt it. Goodbye.