Episode 41 - Bones and Blessings

Death, devotion, and breathtaking architecture collide in this episode as we explore two of the world's most fascinating sacred spaces. First, we descend into Rome's haunting Capuchin Crypt, where the remains of thousands of friars have been transformed into intricate works of art, serving as a powerful reminder of life's impermanence. Then, we travel to the heart of New York City to uncover the history, hidden details, and enduring legacy of St. Patrick's Cathedral, one of America's most iconic churches.

From centuries-old traditions and religious symbolism to surprising stories and little-known facts, we'll uncover what makes these places so captivating. Whether you're fascinated by history, architecture, the macabre, or the mysteries tucked behind cathedral walls, this episode offers a journey through faith, mortality, and the remarkable ways we remember those who came before us.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

I'm Alex and I'm again and we are two filthy horse. You're all beyond the veil now. Hi, happy yappy hour. Uh I know to our listeners, we you know they listen to us like weekly, hopefully, but we have not actually talked in a bit, so I feel like this is gonna be a long yappy hour. Um so yeah, how are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 0:38

What's up? Oh my god. Well, yeah, I was looking at when I started this. I did reread over everything, but whenever I started this Google Doc, it was a month ago. I don't know how the hell we did that, but hey, life happens. But yeah, aside from us just like not recording in a while, I've been pretty okay. I feel like a lot has happened. I mean, I got a haircut that hasn't happened in years, truly. The bathroom renovation is going well. We have the drywall up. We just have to. Oh, your bathroom looks so good so far. Thank you. I am really loving it. It's just taking so long. And we have all the bathroom stuff in the nursery, so every time I walk in there to like try to do anything, it's it's just an absolute disaster. Um, what else? I was gonna oh yeah, I wanted to say happy birthday to my mom. Uh, she's always supporting the show and being funny and cute, and so I just want to say happy birthday and thanks.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Happy birthday to you. We love you. Also, happy birthday to my mother-in-law, Barbara. Her birthday is the day before this comes out. So I'm a little bit late, but I hope we'll be seeing her that day. I think we're all chilling.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

So yeah, I'll see her on a birthday.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

We're doing a girl's brunch with all the sisters, and since it's her birthday, we invited her over too.

SPEAKER_00 1:58

Yeah. Um, it's uh I'm so sorry. Leo, my cat, literally, my familiar, just will not leave me the fuck alone. And he keeps walking over, going, meow, meow, meow. So I know it's gonna be in the recording.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

That's okay. It can't be any worse than the time Dylan just ate in the background. Like it's blinking against the bowl or plate or something the whole time.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

So funny because somebody else listened to that episode and they were like, I literally thought that was you eating because Megan thought that you were eating ice cream for breakfast. And I was like, No, I wasn't talking, so I would have muted my entire thing, but it's funny.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

That was funny that you thought you were eating ice cream at the time. I forgot that that was that same.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

Yeah, it was all of it blends together for me. I know. It's well, it does, and then when we don't do this for a while, it's extreme. Oh, yeah, and I moved my office. Like, I'm not even in the same room I was a month ago. This is our first time recording when I'm out here. So because now my old office is the nursery. We have her bassinet put together, we got her crib, we didn't put it together yet though. But things are moving. I am moving along.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Let me see the baby, let me see the bellies. Yeah, that's whenever uh it's really hard to start breathing. So we're oh yeah, I struggle.

SPEAKER_00 3:17

I can't even like show you accurately, but I'm wearing shorts. That's okay. Look at the belly. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I mean it's hard to do anything.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

We haven't seen her talked really in a really long time, so I'm very excited to see you soon and see the little belly.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

Yeah, I was gonna say you'll see me on Sunday, and I don't know if you're prepared because it just is so massive. Like it's so big, it's insane. But I got it like a maternity bathing suit, so that helps keep up with my growing.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Yeah, let me check with the rotundists on Sunday, actually.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

And honestly, I'm gonna have our little sister with me, so like, because I'm the one bringing her out, so I might have to leave early anyway and just take her back. But I know that she would want to come hang out and swim and stuff too, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

It's it's looking pretty strong for rain on Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

I just saw Fucking Crikey. Of course it is. Yeah, dude, it has rained so much this summer. It's I I don't hate it, but I'm also like, why does it always have to rain on the days I want to do something outside?

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Yeah. For us, we've actually not had as much rain as we probably should have. I'm very grateful it was raining like yesterday. We we got a lot of rain, so I'm very happy about it. Because like watering, I've had to like water my garden a lot. And the freaking groundhogs keep eating my goddamn watermelons. They okay, so they can't get through like the rind, like the skin of the watermelon. So what they're doing is biting the vines and eating the watermelon, like they're not even eating the watermelon, they're eating the vine that the watermelon's on. And I had it all fenced in except for one little area. And those little bitches keep getting in that one little area. You found it and doing it, yeah. So now I have them plopped up, like I picked the watermelon vines up so they can't chew through them until we can get the rest of the fenced in area. So I'm hoping that works. So fucking hold on.

SPEAKER_00 5:14

I can't believe that.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

Yes, I'm so mad. I did want to update just in case anybody does care, because I don't know if I've said it on here, and I'm sure people do care. I don't mean it meanly, I'm just saying, like, um, in case you're curious, I guess. I made a neurologist appointment finally due to my migraines in that whole situation, so um, because I went to a little get together at our dad's house and had a really bad situation happen where we thought it was my sugar, and it ended up being an aura migraine, and the migraine didn't hit yet, but I had the aura and the tingling tongue from it, and it I didn't realize that that was a sensation you can get with an aura migraine, and I didn't know. And then I had like the next like five days I had a horrible migraine. Um, I had to take like three or four Sumatriptin pills to get rid of it. So I'm struggling really bad. Uh so anyway, yeah, I I did make a neurologist appointment. Uh it's in a like a couple weeks, so well, more than a couple weeks, it's like a month, but still, it's common. But I am doing the necessary, taking the necessary steps to figure out what's going on and make it better.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

Good. I'm really glad I know that that's not easy, especially like a neurologist. Like that's I I would imagine having to book that appointment is scary. Like I it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

Just and it's like in in in in the city, and I'm like, I cannot do that. It's like my appointment's at like 8 a.m. I'm like, Dylan, can you please take off work to drive me? Because I don't want to drive through there.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

I hope that's you know, it's kind of like a double-edged sword too, but because since it's in the city and it's such a nice city and like good hospitals, I hope that gives you like a peace of mind too.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

Yeah, I really hope so. Especially because like now what I'm having is like after the migraine, like the headache goes away, I'm having like a body migraine. So it's like the nerves are like misfire, like the headache will kind of go away, but then I get it in my back in my arms and stuff, and it's like a signaling, it's like signaling the it's misfiring or something through the nerves into my body. So like I can't get like relief, and and it I'm so grateful because it has been a little bit since I've had one. So I'm very grateful for that. I thought we had a race weekend this past weekend, yeah. And I woke up the one day with a headache and it's felt very much like it was gonna turn into a migraine, and it thankfully did not, and I've I'm just so grateful. So it's been it's probably been a month since I've had a bad one.

SPEAKER_00 7:52

Good. That's a really good sign. My gosh. But yeah, I wasn't there whenever that all happened at dad's house. So I didn't I did not even get to see it. Honestly, I'm glad I didn't. I probably would have been.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Yeah, you would have they were like checking my blood sugar and stuff and like made me eat and and it did seem like low blood sugar. I was getting dizzy, I was like, like, and it was it was so hot out, and I kept saying, like I kept laughing, like like laughing, you know, we were just hanging out and laughing, and I would laugh and I'd be like, my head would hurt so bad every time I laughed, and I was like, why is my head hurt like that? My vision would go black, and then I was like, man, but it wasn't hurting all the time, it was just when I laughed, and then it just got worse and worse, and then I was like, My tongue is like numb, like it's tingling, it's numb, and I could not figure it out. And then your mom was like, Megan, I think your blood sugar is like really low, and then so I went and ate, and then we checked my blood sugar, and it was like it was okay, but then the migraine started to hit later on that night, and that's yeah, it's oh yeah, I'm sure it's it's possible that it was also like low sugar, but I I definitely think it was just aura migraine, like, and I didn't know it at the time, like after you know, looking back on it, but either way, yeah, I'm good now. So but yeah, but shout out to her for acting, thinking and acting quickly and helping me, and she stayed calm during it. You I could see the panic in her face, but she stayed calm, so I'm very proud of her and I'm very crazy.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Yeah, she typically never remains calm.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

I'm glad that she did that. I feel like she did, so especially compared to what she has done.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Exactly. Have you been like playing any new games or anything? I've been fucking obsessed with Stardew Valley, and if you have not played that, oh bitch, you've gotta play Stardew.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

I haven't. I've just been trying to like read. I've been kind of like yeah, but I haven't been reading too much either lately, to be honest. I I'm trying to get back into a swing of it, but I've been like meditating in a way. Like instead of reading, I don't know how to explain it. I just kinda like sit or lay, like it's not like a full-blown, like focused meditation, if that makes sense. I'm not like humming, I don't actually know if that's a real meditation thing or not, but I don't do that. I just sit there and like completely silence like my brain, my body, everything, and stay super calm. And it's like kind of like you kind of feel refreshed, like it's a little nap, but it's not actually a nap. You're just laying there and closing off like everything that is stimulating you in a way, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

I was gonna say that's really nice because you don't have like any distractions, like you don't have your phone, you don't have people, you just have to kind of sit with your own thoughts for a while, and that's like really healing. It's hard at first though, it's really difficult, and but then the more you do it, you're like, Okay, this is fine, I can get used to this. No, I'm like this. Because I had to do that. Good, good. You should be. That's really great. That's hard to do, so nice. Thanks. But I will say you should play Stardew Valley, and you can play co-op or you can play like individually. Um, I played co-op with my sister-in-law like last week for the first time, but then I when she got off, I made my own world, and um I have not put it down since I started my own world. What do you do? It's like a farming game. It's so funny. Oh my god, you and the farming games. I can't help myself. I love it so much. You get you can go to the I yearn for the mines. You can go to the mind, you can like hit some rocks. Oh my god, it's so fun. There's a little museum you can donate things to. Um you fish, you get married. It's so fun. I just love it. It's I think you would too though. I think you would like it.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

Uh Did I recently tell you that Ben kind of broke my heart a little bit because he's like he doesn't like Minecraft much anymore. He keeps saying he's like, I do like it, I just get bored with it. Like, and and I can't tell if he actually I think it's like a nostalgic thing for him, like maybe like he likes it because he had so many good memories with it, but he does not play it anymore, like at all.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

He's gotta play on survival mode. Maybe he'll enjoy it then.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

Maybe I'll see if I can get him to do that. Maybe it'll like give him a little bit of a challenge and stuff. He doesn't like realize I didn't think about that because I don't play my game.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

You guys play with him, like or if Dylan plays with him or something.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Oh, I I would. I don't know, like I've never done it though.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

When me and Tyler play, it's everybody has a different playstyle, but when we go in, we go in on survival. Tyler builds the house, I gather the materials. Well, he'll gather materials, I'll try to gather materials, but mostly I get food for us. And then we just like build a little hut, and then as the days go on and we get more materials, we start to like increase things. And our playstyle is mostly to automate everything, so we go on YouTube and look up like um iron farms and like automation, uh, kelp farms, stuff like that. Because I don't know, he's just a nerd, and I learned to play from him, so I've picked up that same trait. So that's that's how I play. But yeah, if you play on survival, it's a lot it's it's more challenging. So I feel like maybe he would like that if he had someone like like you guys to play with him because playing survival on your own, it's not as fun, but playing creative on your own is also not as fun. So I think maybe just him having someone to do it with would change his mind.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Thank you. I'll I will look into that for him. I uh I know he's been super into like this animal, Animal General Hospital or something on Roblox. Oh my god. I've heard of it. It's a Roblox version of it.

SPEAKER_00 13:35

Yes, okay, so Dylan did text in the I think the DD chat, and he said that he wanted to play it's called um I think it's called Mecha Chameleon, but I will say Mecha Chameleon. Sorry everyone.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

It's one of those two. I don't know which one.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

Mecha sound sound right better. Fair. One of them is right and one of them is wrong, but what is it correct? I wasn't gonna be like neither of them are wrong. It's like it's Mika Chameleon. But um, yeah, he texted and wanted to play that, and me and Tyler were looking at it right like the week before he fucking said anything. So I really do want to try that out with you guys, like just like the family. I think it'd be so fun. Oh, I think the only other thing I have aside from what I've been doing, or I guess this is still what I've been doing, I'm still on the Played Prisoner series. I'm on book four. I'm really struggling with this book though. I feel guilty to admit that, but I'm struggling.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Do you like this series and you're just struggling with that book?

SPEAKER_00 14:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

Is there a reason why?

SPEAKER_00 14:39

I think I'm really pissed at the main character right now. And spoiler alert, if you guys haven't read Guild or the Played Prisoner series, like don't listen to what I'm about to say, but just skip forward like a minute. Um Orin or Orin or however you say it, I think it's Orin. She's really pissing me off right now, man. Why? I understand that she went through such trauma, but like she's absolutely pissing me off. Yeah, she's and she knows she's not, and she's just like taking it out on Slade, and I'm like, I am like getting livid because there's a certain point where if you're aware of it, you need to do something about it, and she's just dragging her feet. Bitch, I'm 40 fucking percent in the book, 40% in the book, and it's a long ass book, it's like almost 800 pages, and she's still doing the same shit, and I'm like, I can't do it, but I will get through it. I will because I do like the series a lot.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Oh, that reminds me. I met one of the like race wives for like another like team, like a racing team, and they have a corgi. So Mika met their corgi. Uh, and um he's he's a sweetheart. I absolutely adore him, and Mika did too. They loved each other, so cute. But anyway, she reads, like she reads also, and she just posted like a post today and she had like a book in there, and I was like, ooh, it's not one I read before, I can't remember what it's called. It's one of the like TikTok books, you know, that are like popular. But um, yeah, hold on, let me see if I I'll pull it up real quick.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

Yeah, let me know what it is. That is so funny. I um my mom was here over the weekend and she was telling my mother-in-law about how her girls were doing the podcast and how they said that us moms aren't allowed to read this one book, and I was like, You're not. Like, you're not. Like, don't even start. It was the fucking book. I was like, don't read it. And dad was like, I'm reading it, and I was like, Don't read it.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Oh my god, dad would like read the first chapter and be like, I'm done. I disowned you guys. I'll never read.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

I didn't even I didn't even want to tell my mother-in-law what it was called because I don't think she's been listening to the recent episodes, and that's okay. She's been busy.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Can you see? He's in the picture too. Oh, the Cory, baby. And then that's the book. It's Scythe and Sparrow. Oh.

unknown 16:56

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

I've seen it around, I just haven't read it yet. Oh, okay. I've actually never seen that one. I think it's Scythe, but Scythe. Scythe. Oh my god. I've never seen that spelled out. Now I feel so fucking stupid. You know what's really funny?

SPEAKER_00 17:14

I think the word scythe is in my episode today.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Oh my god. I'm like embarrassed. I'm like literally blushing. I feel so stupid. You're not stupid.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

You're not.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

I can cut it out if you want. I don't care. It's either whatever you want to do. If it fits, keep it in. If you want to cut it out, you're good too.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Dude, that was that's funny. And no, don't feel stupid. It's it's not a word that's I'm just terrible.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Like, I don't even understand how I'm so bad at like saying things properly. I don't like I literally do it all the time. You don't think so? Maybe it's just like maybe it's just so focused on the podcast because I had to say words on the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Maybe, and maybe you're just like in your own head about it.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Hold on, my door opened. Who's Dylan? I didn't see him walking behind me. I had no clue he walked by to go outside.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

I think you might be in your own head about it because it's it's really not and you are your own worst critic. It's not a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

I am I am, and and I also I think sometimes I mispronounce things because I think too much about it. Like I'm like, oh, don't mess it up, and then I mess it up. But I do want to say buried and buried still bothers me because like to me, it's it I know it should probably be say buried, but I say buried and Yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

It's hard. That one's a weird one. That one always has stuck out to me too, like, even as a child, so I don't blame you for that.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Yeah, and I'm like that that one really bothers me. But anyway, I think that's all that I have for like Ariappy Hour. That what I was originally gonna say is that um our uh friend Tim said that he's putting Allen's on the baby list. He was like, I know that bleeped out name was me.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

Yes, it sure was. He actually commented on last week's episode and he said that um I'm gonna read his his comment. He comments on like every episode.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

Yeah, I love it. I I love seeing his comments.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

I know, it's really nice. We love when you guys comment, so thank you. He said, I hate to disappoint you guys, but the creepy legs walking around have just been me. It's a secret though. Another great episode. He said, might I make a suggestion for the wheel? For one spin, only all slots are Alan's. Also, my birthday's coming up, so that would be a great episode for my birth.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

Oh, hold on. Let me see when his birthday is. You did not miss it. I highly doubt you. It's the 9th. Hmm. So that's I mean, it would be the week that this one comes out. It's that weekend. So happy birthday to you! Happy birthday, Tim! We got three birthdays to celebrate on this episode.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

Yeah, this is crazy. I think the next episode will come out August 10th, so we might give Tim another shout out.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Okay. It does. It should, at least. It'll be the Monday.

SPEAKER_00 19:57

So yes.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

But yeah, anyway, I think now I think that's all we got on happy, yappy, yappy, happy. Yappy, happy yappy. Yeah, one of those one of those hours. Yeah, it's not happy hour. Never mind. Yappy hour. Yappy, yappy, yow, yow. Oh god, half half priced uh apps right now. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

Oh man, that would be so good. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

I want like uh pretzels and beer cheese or like mozzarella sticks. That sounds so yummy right now.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

That does sound really good. I've been on this really weird pregnancy thing, like this I guess you could call it a craving. I've been really wanting um French toast sticks from sheets.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Oh, I love their French toast sticks, especially when they shut, like put tons of cinnamon on them. Like cinnamon.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Yes, why? I've just now discovered them. My friend just told me about them. She was like, oh, whenever I was pregnant, that was my downfall. And I was like, huh, never had that. They're like, huh, let me let me follow you. Yeah, and I sure did. Yes, I fell. Like, I cannot stop fucking eating them.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

I love them. They are so good.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

They are. My topic. No, not my topic. My thing. My my thing I did. What are the words I'm looking for? The place that I did my catacombs. Um, I just wanted to say mine is a little shorter, but I that's just who I am. I'm sorry. I tried my best. I'm sorry. God damn it. Hidden beneath a church in the heart of Rome is one of the strangest places on earth. The Capuchin Crypt. I think I said that right. If I did not, I apologize.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Come for her.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

It's beautiful, unsettling, symbolic, and depending on who you ask, ask us. It's maybe a little haunted. The Capuchin Crypt sits underneath the church of Santa Maria della Conchedziane de Cappuccini. That was a lot.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

I'm gonna sound like an asshole, but I literally thought you were like saying a coffee, like a cappuccino, like at the end.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Cappuccini.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Like I thought you were literally like saying all of that just to add cappuccino at the end to be funny, and then I was then you didn't, and then I was like, oh, I'm just an asshole.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

Oh, that is so fucking funny. That's okay. Um, so that place that I'm not going to say again, that sits just off of the Via Veneto in Rome. Every year, thousands of people walk right past it without realizing that beneath the streets is a series of underground rooms decorated almost entirely with human bones. And as you know from our last catacombs episode, these are very real bones. Which we actually never did a catacombs episode, it was our husband's. Really? So funny. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

We've only done it once.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

I thought for sure this is a third one. But let me look. No. You're probably right. You actually have like a whole spreadsheet that you look at.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

Creepy catacombs, April Fools, Tyler and Dylan. No, that was yeah, this is only our second one. That's crazy. Anyway, okay. The crypt belongs to the Caputian Franciscan friars. I hope I said that right. A branch of monks known for living very simple, humble lives. Back in the 1600s, the order moved to this church from another monastery. When they relocated, they brought with them the remains of their deceased brothers. Which is understandable. I would do it with my sisters.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

The you remember the priest trilogy books? I do. You remember the third one? The guy is that the one you joined?

SPEAKER_00 23:38

No, that was uh I think that was part of Ireland.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

Oh, okay. I couldn't remember. It's been so long since I read those books.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

That was a good I liked it. I know a lot of people kind of shit on that because of her writing style, but I've I thought the story was good.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

The writing style was hard for me. The story was good though. It was interesting.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

That makes it worth it for me, really. It does.

SPEAKER_01 23:58

Yeah, I can push through sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

But yeah, I mean I thought it, you know, this could be a cute kind of Pinterest board. Skeletal remains, maybe throw some glitter on the bones or something. Pink glitter on the skulls. But instead of blueberrying them in a traditional cemetery, they carefully arranged the bones inside the crypt. The friars believed death wasn't something to hide from. They saw it as a reminder that everyone, rich, poor, powerful, or ordinary, ends up in the same place. In Christianity, there's a concept called memento mori, which literally means remember you must die. The idea is meant to encourage people to appreciate life, stay humble, and focus on what really matters. So while today it looks incredibly creepy, the monks considered it a form of religious art. The crypt itself is made up of six small rooms, each with its own theme. There's the crypt of skulls, pelvises, leg bones and thigh bones, the crypt of three skeletons, and the crypt of the resurrection. And every single room is covered from floor to ceiling in bones. The first thing people usually notice is that the rooms don't feel like caves or catacombs. They're surprisingly small and intimate. You're not walking through miles of underground tunnels like in Paris. Instead, you're moving from chamber to chamber, almost like walking through an underground art gallery. You don't feel lost, but I'd say that you would likely feel examined. So let's go to the crypt of the skulls. And it's exactly what it sounds like. Hundreds upon hundreds of skulls line the walls, but in perfect symmetry. Some are stacked into geometric patterns, others are arranged into circles that almost resemble giant flowers. From a distance it looks decorative. And then your brain realizes that every single skull belonged to a real person. One thing visitors mention is how different they all look. Some skulls are noticeably smaller, some still have teeth, some are cracked with age, and it quietly reminds you that these were individuals with their own faces. Someone probably fell in love with the face of the skull that you were looking at. Okay, that breaks my heart. You're mean. I know. Next is the crypt of pelvises. Pelvic bones don't immediately seem like they'd be decorative, but the friars somehow incorporated them into elaborate floral designs. They're mixed with vertebrae and shoulder blades to create a symmetrical pattern that almost looks like lace. And you know what? Really quick. Can I look it up? Yes, yes, I was gonna say you should look it up. Yeah, it's on like my next sentence. Really quick though, I just want to go on a tangent about my fucking pelvis. Because why'd no one tell me that in the middle of the night or every time I get out of bed in the middle of the night to peace 700 times, it's gonna feel like my pelvis is cracking in half. I have pelvic girdle pain so bad and I've had it for like two months now. It is awful. But I've been going to the chiropractor. I have not done physical therapy, I haven't done like pelvic floor therapy or anything. I'm using like stuff at home, like to kind of like I can put like a ball between my knees and squeeze, and that relieves pressure and stuff. So I am trying new things. Um, but it's it's really hard to like move and do squats and stuff like that. I do, but it is becoming a lot more difficult now that I am heavily pregnant.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

Yeah, that is rough. I um I did not tell you all the bad things because I didn't want you to like worry, I guess. You know what I mean? I just wanted you to kinda and not everyone has all the same symptoms, so I didn't know if you were gonna experience everything that like I did.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

But yeah, it is like nothing get weird about that.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Yeah, it's not like fun.

SPEAKER_00 27:36

The end is rough, so it is pretty rough. It's a lot like the first trimester, but I'm not sick, which helps. But I did have like a few nausea spells here and there, but nothing, nothing like the first trimester. But no, I um I've heard a lot of pregnancy horror stories over the years. I've heard a lot of good things. Um, I've seen like a lot of pregnancies. I'm r I really don't get too freaked out about things. Um, so that that doesn't bother me. But I did hear about pelvic um pelvic girdle pain and uh there was something oh, sciatica, and I have experienced both, but sciatica I only really experienced for about like a week, so I'm grateful for that. But the the pelvic girdle pain's really bad, and it's only on like my pubic bone. It's very weird. It hurts so bad. It is so fucking bad. And it's always like in the middle of the night, or when I'm laying down at night, or when I first get out of bed in the morning, and I it's it is what it is. I will be excited to not be pregnant anymore, mostly because I want to have her here, but also because it's extremely painful right now in areas I didn't necessarily expect it to be painful.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

Yeah, that's um have your feet been swelling out by the way? I know I'm really off topic right now. Okay, that's good. That's a good sign. You might be perfectly fine then and not have any until the very end, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

I feel like well, I'm like really flushed right now, but I feel like my face hasn't changed too much, which I'm grateful for. No.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

Um Yeah, your face looks the same, your nose, you don't have pregnancy nose or anything, so you're good.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

I mean, not that you're not good if you do get it. I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

Yeah, no, for sure. I I was gonna say, like, I don't remember you with pregnancy nose, to be honest, but I think women in general who are pregnant are just always beautiful. But I wouldn't think that about myself, but I do think that about everybody else around me. It's so annoying. But yeah, thank you. You're welcome. Okay, but yeah, so I looked at pictures of the crypto pelvis, pelvises, and um, I was like, that's so pretty. And then I was like, wait, that's a pelvis, so you should all Google it and get the real idea because it's very elaborate.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

It is really cool and pretty, but it also is like weird in a way. Like it is like kind of gives you chills, uh like you feel haunted, like especially when you think about like people having lives. Like this is a real person that like ate food, drank water, like you know, had a life. Like they they were loved, they did love, like that type situation.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

They had emotions, yeah. It's really wild. Moving on to the crypt of the leg bones and thigh bones. Long bones were perfect for creating straight lines, arches, and borders. The walls are covered in repeating rows of femurs and tibias, arranged with almost mathematical precision. Instead of random piles, everything has balance and symmetry. You could compare it to gothic architecture or literally like standing inside a cathedral built entirely from skeletons. The crypt of the three skeletons is probably the room people remember the most because there are three complete skeletons that stand or hang within decorative bone displays. The center skeleton is believed to have belonged to a young girl because of her smaller frame. It's displayed holding a scythe in one hand and a set of scales in the other. You mean a scythe? The scythe represents death. The scales represent God's judgment. Whether or not it was actually a child is debated by historians, but either way, seeing a complete skeleton surrounded by thousands of other bones has a very different emotional effect than seeing individual skulls. Because before in the crypt of skulls, you could easily think of them being human, but now it's suddenly impossible to not picture these people as living human beings when you can see their entire bone structure. The crypt of resurrection is almost hopeful in a way. Its decorations are meant to symbolize eternal life rather than death itself. There's a painting of Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead surrounded by elaborate bone arrangements that reinforce the Christian belief that death isn't the end. It's interesting because while modern visitors often see the crypt as macabre, the monks actually intended for this room to be comforting. I don't know if it succeeds as that, but it depends on the person's take, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

Are all okay. I'm gonna sound quite stupid for a second. Are all catacombs underground? I do think so. Okay. So, like, the whole situation, like I understand making it look pretty and like comforting and stuff to me, but first for me personally, being underground and surrounded by bones will never be okay for me.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

Like it adds a different element to it. Yeah, it definitely adds a creepy factor to it. I don't like it either. I would feel very like tight and like there's no escape. It's no, I don't like it. Several rooms contain chandeliers made almost entirely from bones. So just imagine looking up, expecting candles and iron, and instead you see vertebrae raiding radiating outward like flower petals, finger bones forming delicate details, and skulls incorporated into the design. It's very intricate. Like, seriously, go Google it. And because chandeliers are usually symbols of elegance, seeing one made from human remains creates this weird clash between beauty and mortality. One thing that often surprises visitors is that they'll eventually stop looking at the walls and they just start looking up and around. The ceilings are covered in very extreme patterns made from ribs, shoulder blades, and vertebrae, arranged into stars, flowers, and geometric designs. It's easy to well, depending on who you are, it's easy to forget that you're standing beneath a thousand like thousands of bones until you accidentally glance upwards and realize, oh, that is an entire skeleton decorating the ceiling. And somehow, the creepiest part is how quiet everything becomes. People go in expecting to take pictures and joke around, but according to countless visitors, the atmosphere changes almost immediately. Even in a room full of tourists, people instinctively lower their voices because it's hard not to. It's a less haunted house attraction and more existential crisis vibes. You just look at these bones and realize that they'll be you someday. Likely not in a catacomb or a crypt for people to gaze upon, but you, Megan, me, everyone listening will remain bones. Unless you get cremated, then I don't I don't know, shut up. The lighting in the entire catacomb doesn't help either because most of the rooms are softly illuminated enough to see every detail, but dark enough that the shadows settle into empty eye sockets. Depending on where you're standing, the decorations almost seem to shift as your eyes adjust. And because everything is arranged so perfectly it doesn't feel chaotic, it feels intentional, which makes it fucking weirder. The crypt isn't that large though. You can walk through the entire thing fairly quickly. But most people end up slowing down because there's always another detail you didn't notice the first time. It's like every time your brain starts processing one bizarre thing, it immediately finds another. Now, naturally, a place filled with thousands of human remains has collected its fair share of ghost stories. Visitors have reported sudden cold spots in rooms where the temperature otherwise feels normal. Some say they've heard footsteps behind them only to turn around and find no one there. Others describe feeling like they're being watched. That's probably the most common experience people mention. They don't really see anything. They just feel observed. Some visitors claim they've heard whispers despite the crypt being nearly silent. Others say certain rooms feel noticeably heavier than others, almost like the atmosphere changes from chamber to chamber. Sorry, I just hit my mic. A few paranormal investigators have visited over the years hoping to document something unusual, but there's never been convincing evidence of ghosts. I mean, I tr I really did try. You can find things, you can find them, but I'm choosing to not put in fluff. So there are no verified apparitions, no unexplained recordings that would hold up under my scrutiny. But still, stories continue to spread. And I do feel like that's just kind of inevitable. When you're standing underground, like Megan said, surrounded by thousands of skeletons, your brain is already on high alert. Every creak sounds louder, louder, and every shadow seems to move. Your imagination, I would imagine, starts to fill in the blanks before you even realize it's happening. Psychologists actually have a name for this kind of thing. In unfamiliar, emotionally intense environments, especially dark and closed spaces, our brains become much more likely to misinterpret ordinary sounds and sensations. But again, I'm not saying it's not haunted, because I mean that with that many people, I would imagine it probably is. So that whisper, that could have been air moving through the crypt. Or that feeling that someone walked behind you. Maybe it was just another visitor that moved too quietly. Or maybe your brain simply decided it wasn't okay with standing in a room decorated entirely with human skulls. You can visit here today. It's open daily from 7 a.m. Nope, 10 a.m. to 7 PM, and it's barely over 10 US dollars, so that's pretty cool. The reviews are overwhelmingly positive. It's beautiful, but people will come here just for the creep factor. Um, I do think this is one of the strangest places in the world, or at least like one of the strangest places I've ever heard of, at least. It's a work of art built from mortality itself and a history lesson you can walk through. And it's one of the few places where the message hasn't really changed in 400 years. Life is temporary and death comes for everyone. So maybe spend a little less time stressing over that awkward text you sent three days ago, because eventually we all become interior decorating. Wham.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

Okay, so anyway, I will say that this this I like looking at the pictures is definitely like the most beautiful like catacomb I've seen. It it is very pretty. Um that being said though, it does give me the like slightly creeps that there's like bones decorating everywhere, and like not even like it's no exaggeration either. Like the they like pull everything apart, you know? Mm-hmm. So But Gorgon's. I would really do it. Like I would totally go there and check it out. Yeah. I probably would like have some breathing issues, but um yeah, like I'd be like, I'd have to keep reminding myself that I can get out, you know what I mean? Because for some reason, if I feel like the because the air feels heavier when you're underground, like it's different than above ground, and then that mixed with like being surrounded by like so many stories, like so many lives that are gone, like but the their bones still are there. That whole situation definitely gives me like the heebie jeebies. Like I'll be I'll be scared, but I would love to go see it. Yes, I agree with that. If you walk down Mulberry Street in lower Manhattan right now, your senses will be overwhelmed. The scent of espresso and hot wood-fired pizza from little ill italal from little Italy. You're just gonna keep that in. I'm not res I'm not respecting that stuff. You shouldn't. The chatter of tourists, the constant thrumming vibration of subway lines cutting through the bedrock. But right at the intersection of Mulberry and Prince, behind a high imposing red brick wall, sits a silent giant. The Basilica of St. Patrick's Old Cathedral, built in 1815. It was New York City's original cathedral long before the other ones are even put onto paper. Most people look at the church, snap a photo, and keep walking. What they don't realize is just a few feet below their sneakers, the ground is completely hollow. Welcome to Manhattan's only active Catholic catacombs. A labyrinth of cold brick, iron gates, and family vaults that has been sealed off from the public for over two centuries. Upstairs, the city never sleeps. Down here, the dead have been waiting for you. To understand the energy down here, we have to go back to the early 1800s. Today, New York is a melting pot, but back then it was a powder keg. The original St. Patrick's was built by Irish immigrants. At the time, New York was fiercely nativist, heavily Protestant, and deeply hostile to incoming Catholics. The church wasn't just a place of worship, it was a target. In the 1830s and 40s, anti-immigrant mobs like the ones you might remember from the movie Gangs of New York marched down Broadway with torches, aiming to burn St. Patrick's to the ground. And here enters Bishop John Hughes. History remembers him by his nickname, Dagger John. He earned it because he signed his name with a cross that looked exactly like a blade, but also because he had the street fighting temperament to match. When the mobs threatened his church, Dagger John didn't just pray. He armed his parishioners. He turned the churchyard into a literal fortress, lining the perimeter walls with armed god guards. Not gods. Not gods, armed guards. They might be gods, I don't know, but he famously told the mayor of New York that if a single Catholic church is burned, he would turn the city into a second Moscow. Meaning he would let his flock burn the rest of the New York to the ash, to ash. Uh the mobs backed down, but why am I telling you about riots in a podcast about catacombs? Because the trauma of that era is baked into the very mortar of these underground walls. The catacombs weren't just built for status, they were built for security. In a city that hated you, the safest place for your loved ones and your treasures was deep beneath the earth, behind brick and iron, where the rioters couldn't dig them up. I don't know, that I'm just pausing for a moment, like for talking point. But like, isn't that pretty interesting that there's like I mean it makes sense. New York's so big. There there's so much, like, so many people came to New York like to to come to America, and there's obviously hate. Like there's going to be hate in that situation. Um, if you know, hopefully people have can learn from that situation and not be hateful. But but even so, there was a lot of hate then, and those bodies needed protected.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

Like, because if not, that could have been a fucking disaster. Just spewing all over the streets, doing whatever people wanted to do with them. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

When you step into the catacombs today, the temperature drops instantly. The air is thick, smelling of old dust, damp stone, and cold iron. There are 35 family crypts and five clerical clerical? Clerical vaults down here. Let's talk about who's down here because their stories are heavy.

unknown 42:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:08

First, you pass the vault of the Demonico family. If you know New York history, they founded a legendary legendary Del Monaco's restaurant, the birthplace of the Demon Jesus Christ, if you say Delmonico so many times, like I'm I shouldn't say Jesus Christ in this. I really shouldn't. I really shouldn't. Oh Megan, wrong episode. Yeah. But anyway, if you say it like that, I didn't I obviously did not read this out loud, this little section. I read it in my head, and now I'm like wishing I did not say Delmonico so many times because like my tongue is like yelling at me. I get it. Anyway, it is the birthplace of the Delmonico steak, Eggs Benedict, and Baked Alaska, which the Eggs Benedict, I did not know. I did not even know that that was an American thing. Um either.

SPEAKER_00 42:55

Or like New York thing. I thought it was Canadian.

SPEAKER_01 42:58

Oh, really? See, I thought it was like an English, like English thing for some reason. Which I might get dragged for that one, but I just thought it was. Like I was like.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Oh, I who cares?

SPEAKER_01 43:08

Oh no. I was thinking it was from other side.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

That makes sense. I can see why. I see why you think that.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

Well, thanks. Thanks for supporting me. They were gilded age royalty, but uh well, wealth can't buy you a ticket out of the underworld. Their vaults sit in a pitch darkness. A cold reminder that luxury ends at the soil line. You know, I don't know if I like these episodes, to be honest. Why? Because it's a lot of like everything everything you like is going to to be gone. Like every you know what I mean? It's hard. Like I feel icky. It's a hard concept. Yeah, like I don't I try not to think about like I I obviously do think about that occasionally, but I try not to think about like everything go. You know. Yeah. And not just like things, but people and places, like all of that situation. Did I ever tell you? This is totally off topic, I'm sorry. Ben has been very interested in like death, but like in a In a kid way. A healthy way. Yeah, a healthy way. Not like anything bad. Like he's just been like asking questions. And he recently, it's probably a couple months ago, I'm trying to remember how long ago, but he asked about like whenever he Like when whenever I die or he dies, and he was like, if you die before me, will you will you meet me at the gate? Oh I'm so sorry, I'm trying not to cry. And he was like, Can you be on the right side and daddy be on the left side? And I was like, Yeah, baby. And that was it was so sweet. Like it was just like I I know it sounds weird to say, but like he was like, Yeah, like it was like a bedtime conversation, like where I'm in his room putting him to bed and stuff like that, and he's talking about heaven and everything else, and um and then he's uh he I don't know, he's asking about like how I can visit him whenever I die and stuff like that, and like that he you know, just that kind of stuff, like having like emotional conversations, but like he handled it in such a healthy way, and I'm so proud of him. But I'm sorry, I'll go back to my my stuff. I just wanted to tell you that because it like reminded me of it, and I was like, oh my goodness, I don't know if I've ever told Alex that happened.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

No, I don't think I knew that, and that is really nice that like he has a safe space to explore those questions. Um, and I think that that's really cute. Me and Tyler have a plan too. Like when we die, we're gonna meet in Iceland. Like, we know where our souls are going, hopefully. I love that. That's cute. You can you you good?

SPEAKER_01 45:48

Me?

unknown 45:49

Yeah, Tyler.

SPEAKER_00 45:50

Yeah, I'm fine. Oh, hi Tyler. She said, Hi Tyler. What's up?

SPEAKER_01 45:56

I don't see nipples. I don't know how this is fair.

SPEAKER_00 46:00

I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_01 46:00

I'm kidding. Do not tell him. That is so fucking funny.

SPEAKER_00 46:03

What is nothing? Are you flexing for my sister's watching? No, no, no, no. He sure is. Okay, bye.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Hold on, baby. You want to see this one too?

SPEAKER_00 46:15

Yeah. Okay, goodbye. You're you're grounded. Grounded for that.

SPEAKER_01 46:24

You go into the send them some way. Okay, let's get back into it. So then the next person is General Thomas Eckert. He was a Civil War general and an incredibly close confidant of Abraham Lincoln. He was the head. Yeah, Linkholm. That Root Beer guy.

unknown 46:50

Root gaming.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

And I always thought it was crazy as a kid thinking like he reminded me of Root Beer. And then it's like actually a thing all over the internet. And I know we've talked about it before, but it just blows my mind that like had that thought. Yeah. He was the head of the military telegraph department. His vault is arguably the most unsettling yet beautiful place in the entire complex. I just want to make sure it's not Ben. Okay. Sure. He's at his friend's house, so that's that's the only reason I have my phone on, like up, so I can see if she texts the mom text me at all. Because Eckert was incredibly wealthy and well connected, his crypt features stunning, intricate towel work by why did I put this in here? Rafa say it. Uh Raf Raphael Rafael? Rafael Gustavino. I think that's how you pronounce it. Yeah, that's what you sound right to me. Yeah, I'm so sorry if I mispronounced that. The same man who designed the famous hidden city hall subway station. But more importantly, Eckhart was the personal friend of Thomas Edison. Oh damn. Edison personally installed some of the very first electrical light fixtures right inside Eckhart's burial vault. Think about that. While the rest of the catacombs are cast in shadow and flickering candlelight, the Eckert vault is wired for electricity. The tour guides and night watchmen have claimed that occasionally the fate warm glow of those original bulb designs can be seen flickering behind the iron gates. Even when the master switches are completely turned off. Yeah, that's super cool. But what about the haunt? Did I say what did I say haunt? Did I say haunt or hunt? Said haunt. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

No, it was fun.

SPEAKER_01 49:03

The stories that keep the church staff from coming down here alone. Wait, hold on. The stories that keep the church staff from coming down here alone after midnight. The most active ghost lore centers around a man named Bishop Jean Du Bois.

SPEAKER_00 49:17

Ooh, good job. That sounds like a cool name.

SPEAKER_01 49:20

Yeah, it might be Jean, but I think it French he's French, so I think that it's Jean, I think. Jean. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Uh Du Bois was a French-born priest who took over the congregation in 1826. Remember how I said the local Irish and American Catholics were suspicious of outsiders. They hated Du Bois. They mocked his thick French accent, they refused to pay their tithes, and they made his life an absolute misery. Damn. Yeah. Du Bois grew bitter. As the bishop, he had an absolute right to prominent, peaceful tomb deep inside the prestigious catacombs. But on his deathbed, he made a final, intensely petty request. He told the church, do not bury me. Do not bury bury me. Every time, every time I come across this word, I have like an internal crisis. He told the church, do not bury me in the shrips, bury me under the sidewalk right at the front entrance of the church. Why? Because he wanted his ungrateful congregation to walk on me in death as they wish to in life. Oh damn, dude. Yeah, that is crazy. But like I kind of respected the I I fully do, yeah, because you know what? If someone's gonna be disrespectful shit to me, I probably would be like, you know, whatever, I'll be back.

SPEAKER_00 50:39

Stand ten toes down on that. Yeah. How do you feel now?

SPEAKER_01 50:44

To this day, if you visit the basilica, you walk right over Bishop Du Bois' body to get through the front doors. But Du Bois apparently didn't find peace in his passive aggressive victory. Parishioners and neighbors walking past the walled church churchyard late at night on Mulberry Street have reported seeing this spectral figure of a man in a traditional nineteenth century clerical robe standing near the entrance gates. Entrance gates. I don't know if I said that. Okay. Yeah, you did. He doesn't he doesn't move, he doesn't speak, he just glares at the sidewalk, watching the feet of the modern New Yorkers tread over his final resting place. Interesting. And then there are the internal hallways. Tour guides leading the catacombs by candlelight tours have reported instances where a single candle in the middle of a tight group would suddenly blow out. Not from a draft, but in a room where the air is perfectly stagnant. Others claim to hear the faint, distinct sound of a telegraph machine clicking away in the darkness near General X Eckert's tomb, sending messages into the afterlife. Dude, that is nuts to me. Also, like they they fucking like have candlelight tours. That's really cool.

SPEAKER_00 51:55

That is really good.

SPEAKER_01 51:56

Speaking of tours, though, if you'd like to go on one, you must dress appropriately and respectfully because this is an active church.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

Right.

SPEAKER_01 52:04

Tours are held Thursday through Monday, closed Tuesday and Wednesday, and the price is $38 per adult, and the tour is about 80 to 90 minutes long. Mm-hmm. So worth your while. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think it'd be cool. Um, and New York's not too far, so like I'd be very down to go do this. So I want to do the candlelight one because I have something against myself.

SPEAKER_00 52:27

No, it's spooky and fun. It's an experience, something you don't do all the time.

SPEAKER_01 52:32

Yeah, I gotta make sure I dress appropriately.

SPEAKER_00 52:34

Yeah, you better.

SPEAKER_01 52:35

No tattoos.

SPEAKER_00 52:36

No slut slut outfits. Yeah, no slutts.

SPEAKER_01 52:42

Slut fits. It's funny. I know this wasn't super haunted, but it is super creepy and not too far from me, so I'd love to check it out sometime, which I just said. You did say that. I think I'd get the creeps and feel some lost spirits in there regardless. So uh when you finally climb the stairs and step back out onto Mulberry Street, the sun feels a little too bright and the air feels a little too warm. New York is a city obsessed with the new. We tear down skyscrapers to build bigger ones, we pave over history every single day. But if you know where to look and if you're willing to step behind the velvet ropes and descend into the dark, you'll find the past isn't actually gone. It's just waiting under the pavement, breathing softly in the dark. Nice. Thank you, thank you. Yeah. It was very interesting. I enjoyed doing this one. I know it's it was written a while ago because we were supposed to record a while ago, but I obviously life happened and we didn't record when we were supposed to. Yeah, there's so much to happen. Yeah, there's a lot happened, but it was still great in retouching, jumping back into this after a break was fun to revisit, I guess. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 53:48

Yeah, maybe we did better this episode because we reread everything. We had no fucking choice. We literally had to reread it. If not, we were gonna be so so doomed.

SPEAKER_01 53:57

Oh, well, I'm I reread before or try to at least almost every episode we do, I try to reread right before.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

I just yeah, I typically try to, but it doesn't always happen.

SPEAKER_01 54:08

Sometimes every once in a while my computer will like not work properly, and I'm like I'll be like, Oh, I'll be on at this time. And then my computer like needs updated or something. Yeah, and then I get behind. But for the most part, I I do I have to reread because I struggle with words. So if I don't read and like make sure I know how to pronounce a word properly, and and again, I do think it's a head thing. Like, I think that like I think so I because I can talk normal when I'm talking to people, I talk normally, and as soon as I'm on the podcast, I'm like say apparel up how do you say fragile? Is it fragility? Like what I'm keeping that for fragile, like I do stupid shit every time I'm on here, but no, it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 54:52

It's alright. It's everyone who knows you in real life knows you're not like you don't do that casual conversation.

SPEAKER_01 54:58

Yes, I'm not even and you know what? If people I don't feel like anybody would be upset about it. No whether people do or don't, I you know, I do apologize, but I am me, and you are getting like fully just me being me. So yeah. And I won't apologize for that. I'll apologize that you're upset, but I won't apologize for being myself.

SPEAKER_00 55:22

I will I won't apologize if you're upset, so I don't care what people think. You're like, fuck y'all. Okay, anyway, get over it.

SPEAKER_01 55:30

Let's pick the wheel. Spin it.

SPEAKER_00 55:33

Spin it.

SPEAKER_01 55:34

A fortune. No, I'm just kidding. Well watch us get like fucking tagged for that. Yeah, we get sued. TM TM TM. And we landed on haunted objects.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

Fuck yeah, we did. That's what I'm talking about. I think I have an idea of what I might do. Make sure to tune in next week. If you're enjoying the podcast, make sure to give us a five-star rating on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

SPEAKER_01 55:57

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SPEAKER_00 56:02

If you have any creepy katacombs you visited and have spooky ookie experiences, send them to us at two filthy horrorspodcast at gmail.com. Yes. Okay. If you got it, haunt it.

SPEAKER_01 56:13

Good night.