Ariana Grande & Manifesting Your Dream Role

We’re diving into Ariana Grande’s rollercoaster of a career—because let’s be real, being a child star, pop icon, and now Glinda in Wicked is no small feat. We talk about everything from her rise to fame and surviving the chaos of the music industry to handling public scrutiny and bouncing back from major challenges. Her story is basically a masterclass in resilience, reinvention, and how to keep going when life throws shade (or scandals). Oh, and of course, we’re dishing on how her journey can teach us all a thing or two about personal branding, perseverance, and staying fabulous even under pressure.

Time Stamps:

01:54 Breaking into the Music Industry

02:39 The Manchester Bombing and Personal Struggles

03:35 Reinvention and Growth

04:18 Landing the Role of Glinda in Wicked

08:42 Manifestation and Hard Work

14:04 Overcoming Scandals and Setbacks

15:06 Lessons for Entrepreneurs

26:35 The Power of Personal Branding

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Episode 070: Ariana Grande
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Michelle Pualani: The most successful people in the world all have scrutiny. If you Google like, You know, bad reviews of Taylor Swift, Beyonce, presidential candidates, Kamala Harris, like how much scrutiny she comes under, political, government officials, like we've got all of these people who have bad things that are said about them, but they continue to do it anyway.

And I think it's a big learning lesson for ourselves that we can continue to do it anyway. And we're even at a smaller scale, like you're talking about maybe like, okay, hundreds of people who maybe don't like you. They're looking at millions of people who don't like them and they're still showing up and they're still giving their best and they're still putting in the work and doing it anyway.

And I think it's a great lesson for us to learn



Michelle Pualani: Hello and welcome back to an episode of Her First. Today we are talking about Ariana Grande, [00:01:00] how she's risen through the ranks and her fame in multiple different industries, the challenges that she's faced along the way, and how she's been able to continue to grow Even considering the pressures and expectations put on women as they move into celebrity status, as they create fame influence and build a successful business about their talents, their personal brand and who they are in the world.

So Ariana Grande's rise to fame hasn't been as effortless as her powerhouse vocals make it seem, and they're incredibly powerful. Love her on SNL and everything that she's been doing recently.

So in a Broadway show called 13, she had her original break into theater. She then moved on to, and got started as a child actor on Nickelodeon's victorious and salmon cat, where she gained popularity, but really found herself kind of stuck in the child star. Box, so to speak. Breaking into the music industry wasn't easy.

She had to fight to be really taken [00:02:00] seriously. I can imagine even just seeing her now, she looks young. She's kind of small and petite. She has a little bit of like a meekness to the way that she presents, even though she's super strong, passionate and fiery, but that can be challenging in an industry that is predominantly dominated by men.

And. Loud, big voices. So with her debut album, yours truly, she really kind of finally proved herself and her talent that it wasn't just TV that she was meant for, but artistry in music as well. The transition came with challenges and her career took off, but so did the things that she started to face some of the difficulties along the way.

So one of the most defining moments for her in her life was the Manchester bombing at her concert in 2017. complete tragedy that deeply impacted her and really affected the trajectory of her life and her career as a whole. Beyond that, she's faced pressures similarly to most of the females that we kind of spotlight in this [00:03:00] way Is that being famous comes with a ton of scrutiny?

A lot of harsh criticism and kind of constantly having to live your personal and professional life in front of people She lost her ex boyfriend mac miller and has navigated very public relationships for good and for bad A lot of scrutiny about her music about her image about how she's dealt with mental health as a whole whole, and we've seen that in some of our celebrity, especially female figures, how they've struggled with mental health and being able to show up in their work and in their professional lives alongside navigating those difficulties.

Despite these setbacks though, Ariana has completely reinvented herself. I feel like she went away for a little while and then she came back kind of time and again Reimagine what her personal brand, what her image could look like in the face of our community in faith in the face of popular culture. So her albums like sweetener and thank you next really showed her growth, especially her vocal range and her ability as an artist and as [00:04:00] a person.

And I think people started to kind of get more on board with. appreciating her as an individual and as a human, not necessarily for what she was doing as an artist. She's consistently balanced vulnerability with strength. She's used her platform to share her story while still staying true to a creative vision.

And now, as I'm sure you've heard, Ariana is stepping into kind of an entirely new role as she took on Glinda, the good witch, in the, uh, Very anticipated wicked movie, obviously derived from the Broadway musical. So it's a dream that she's had since she was a child, kind of a full circle moment for someone who started her career in that Broadway setting.

So landing the role was not a small thing. Obviously there are a huge host of actresses out there who would potentially be a good fit for this role. And I think that she came at it with tenacity, with, Vision and with true heart for what the role was meant to be in the [00:05:00] movie. And she's captured that, I think so well.

So her story is really a journey of resilience of reinvention. She's demonstrated that even through those challenges and difficulties, you can still rise. You can evolve, you can grow, you can shift in industries, you can show up in new ways. You can bring your passion to the forefront. forefront and really demonstrate how good you are at something like some of her vocals and how she's able to show up is such a beautiful representation of her skill as an artist, but also have this incredible, funny, likable, charming personality and this way of being that is truly magnetic.

I think she's a wonderful example of a personal brand and how she's developed and she has these darker times and moments in her life, but now she's able to come forward and. And I think this role of Glinda and participating in Wicked as the movie as a whole is such a beautiful, you know, trend, cultural movement thing that we're seeing.

And so it's, it's great to [00:06:00] see her evolve through this. And I'm excited to chat about more of how she's grown and evolved and how you can reflect some of those things in your life and use her story as a catalyst for maybe going through a pivot. Or use it as a, an inspiration to show up more as yourself in your own personal brand.

Joanna Newton: Ariana Grande's story is like so interesting. She's been famous in the limelight for so long. And I think going from like child star to pop star, I think a lot of people didn't take her talent seriously, how talented and how dedicated that she was to her craft. And I remember, the first time I saw her on SNL doing impressions, she's like, good at impressions. I saw her doing impressions and I was like, Oh, girl is wildly talented and the way she's acting and the [00:07:00] way. She's choosing to sing and one of the things people criticize her about is like not announcing a lot in her pop music. I'm like, Oh, she's doing exactly what she means to do. this is 100 percent a choice that is she is doing and she could do anything with her vocals. And when she was first announced as getting the role of Glinda, she faced so much criticism. People were like, she can't do this because Glinda, if you don't know the musical, Glinda's Singing is like very traditional soprano, what vocalists would call legit singing.

It's like a lyric, like a high lyrical soprano voice that is cutting and crystal clear. And people were very critical. They were like, she can't do this. When. I heard she got the role. I was like, I 100 percent knew she got it. I have, like, I used to do vocal training. Like, I was like, Oh, this totally translates.

She's going to take it seriously. She's going to train like a soprano. She's going to be absolutely fine. [00:08:00] And I was like, and she'll take some moments to popify. That will be, Totally great and totally memorable. I will say it was 100 percent right on that. but something people don't actually know. Well, I think it's more common now that people know this story because of the interviews. But Ariana Grande actually saw the original cast of Wicked, went backstage and met Kristen Chenoweth, the person who originated the role as Glinda. And when she was just like, I think she was like eight or nine at the time. She said I want to be in the show one day and this I might even get like emotional thinking about this.

She was like, I want to be in this show one day and I want to be Glinda. And Christian Chenoweth was like, you will, like you will one day. And it's, I've chills thinking about that because Grande has been through so much, right? Obviously she's a pop star. She has all of this money. There's, she's got a lot of advantages in this world, but she was eight or nine years old.

Had a dream of playing this role now she's in the movie version [00:09:00] and, you know, I'm a former theater kid. I think I still am a theater kid. I remember seeing Wicked on Broadway and thinking, I cannot wait till this is a movie, this is going to be such a good movie. I went into that theater, I saw the original cast and I was like, ah, it's going to be an incredible movie. And, you know, I was a little bit older than Ariana Grande when I saw the original cast. She saw the original cast and to come through that almost 20 years later and have that role, like that is such an amazing accomplishment. And then I'll just add to be able to hear all that criticism. You got announced in that role. The internet criticized you to work your ass off. Do what she did. In that movie. And then nobody's saying shit about her now. everybody is pro Ariana. Like, she turned them. You know what I mean? She worked so hard, she turned them. It's just to watch.

Michelle Pualani: I've heard that too in some interviews is that like no one has worked harder than Ariana because she is just so incredibly committed [00:10:00] and she shows up. There's so much to be said about her example as someone who is an icon in our pop culture and as a celebrity now movie and vocalist and pop in the music industry.

But I deeply respect her ability to do that couple of things that you mentioned in terms of like, what a strong and powerful example of manifestation. I've heard a couple of things. So Jamie Kern Lima, when she used to watch Oprah, she would tell herself that she was going to meet Oprah one day. And now she's literally friends with Oprah and has done courses together with her, Tom Holland.

And some of the things that he thought about her has said said publicly in interviews about Uncharted being his favorite game. If he were to play any superhero character, what would he play? Spider Man, who does he have a crush on Zendaya? the things that they've created in their lives are really powerful.

And we all have that magic and ability within us to manifest and vision [00:11:00] into the world, what we want. Now, it may not happen in the timeline that you're expecting. Obviously, this is a 20 year opportunity and manifestation, but each little thing, each little choice, each little role, each little opportunity along that path can lead you to that big opportunity in the future that you have no idea that's building as a part of your life path.

And I think it's such a, Really, honestly, a huge complex thing to think about when you step back and look at the enormity of what that could mean for how you're co creating your life with the universe or with each other or with whatever you believe in, but there's just such an opportunity to Grab that and to say, what is it that I truly want?

What is the role? What is the career? What is the opportunity? Do I want to speak on stages? Do I want to be in a Ted talk? Do I want to be featured on news media outlets? Do I want to work with a certain person? Do I want to have certain opportunities in front of me? And you can put that out into the world and [00:12:00] believe That it will happen for yourself.

Get the mentorship, seek the advice, get the guidance, and put yourself in spaces where those things are going to be mirrored back to you. They're going to be reflected back to you because that's what you're putting out into the world. And then The work that comes along with it. Ariana did not land that role simply because at eight years old, she said she wanted to be Glinda and then took off the next 20 years and then showed up one day and is like, yeah, I'm going to land the role in the movie.

No, she's put in the time. She's put in the energy, everything that you, Don't see, you know, we see the interviews with Jimmy Fallon and we see the movie wicked and we see her in her concerts, but we don't see are the hours and hours of alone time work, working with coaches, working with vocal trainers, doing the dance routines.

We don't see all of that behind the scenes work. And sometimes, you know, for ourselves, this is like, I'm putting my hand up right now because I have done this in the past is I'm so focused on [00:13:00] showing up in a way when people see me, but then behind the scenes, not always doing the due diligence and the work that it takes to get to where I want to go.

And I acknowledge that. And I look back at my history and think, Oh, I've actually spent a little bit more time in performance and how people perceive me so that I show up in a way that I want people to see. To think certain things about me or to, you know, be professional in a certain light or have certain things together in a certain light with these people looking at me, but what's actually happening behind the scenes that's creating the future that I want.

Maybe I haven't put the time and attention there. So something to reflect on for yourself as you're listening is. In what ways are you maybe not showing up to the best of your abilities in your life that you can start to think about different? What habits can you set in place? What practices that when you're actually positioned for the role, when the opportunity comes in front of you, how are you going to be best prepared for 

Joanna Newton: Yeah. And that inner work, that work behind the scenes, working [00:14:00] on skills, working on your mindset, all of those things are so important. One thing that I think is really interesting about Ariana Grande's career is she's had a lot of potentially. ending scandals that didn't end her and a lot of child stars Struggle making a transition to being an adult You know, I don't that being a child star is the greatest environment to grow up in there's a documentary I forget what it was called, but it's I think it's on Hulu and it's about Some of the things that were happening at Nickelodeon at the time, and when you actually look at the environment Ariana was working on in Victorious and in her Salmon Cat, there were some very questionable things going on and very difficult things that she went through as a child and then had, as she grew into an adult, adulthood, lots of scandals around her, lots of things, you know, saying she wasn't a great person and whether she's a great person or not behind the [00:15:00] scenes, I don't really know the answers to that question. The reality is she was able to figure out how to bounce back from all of them. And I think sometimes For us as entrepreneurs, we're scared to do things, make choices, be a certain way because we're afraid that something will make like our entire career crumble Oh, if I do this, my business will be over or, Oh, no, I made this mistake.

This client's pissed at me. Now my business is gone, right? We're so scared of making mistakes. And I'm not saying you shouldn't be careful. And I'm not saying you shouldn't, you know, just take every risk under the sun. But if something bad happens, You're going to figure it out. Like you're going to work hard.

You're going to bounce back. you're going to be able to move on and be successful even if something, you know, went wrong. And I think we need to not be so scared and not think, and again, this is a mindset thing. If you think this happened, now my career is over, it probably will be. But if you think this [00:16:00] thing happened, what can I learn? Where can I go next? You're going to be okay.

Michelle Pualani: We get so stuck in the fear of it. And even in ways that we don't realize it shows up in our business by not reaching out to someone because maybe they have a bigger following and you don't think that they'll be willing or able to help or support you by not introducing yourself at a networking event, by not.

Putting in that program out into the world by creating the offer, but then feeling afraid to sell it by recording the video, but then not posting it. How many times have we sat on things that we're afraid of the outcome of whatever that is, but we can't even. Guess or imagine what that's going to be. I think that it's feeling the fear and doing it anyway, you know?

Someone like Ariana and at her level and status, like, there's still fear of, you know, what happens if I take on the Glinda role and it isn't everything that everyone wanted it to be, you know That can be a deterrent and that could keep her from it But then she turns around and [00:17:00] works incredibly hard and does everything in her power To perform at a high level and that's what we can do, too we have to see the fear have the courage and build the courage in order to do it and Then do everything that we can to Prepare for that, whatever the performance is for you, whether that's a cell, whether that's speaking on a stage, whether that's getting in front of the camera, and then doing the best that we can, and we know that we brought the best to what it is that we're able to do.

You know, for Ariana, moving through that period, you know, of the bombing, Losing an ex over the course of those years, those can be really, really challenging and so much of their personal life is on display. I think this comes up for a lot of us in the digital space as scrutiny with, you know, trolls, comments, refund requests, people maybe leaving you a bad review somewhere.

That can feel like scrutiny, that can feel challenging, it can feel I'm not [00:18:00] meant to be doing this, I shouldn't put this out into the world, maybe I shouldn't talk about this topic that I really care about, and you'll start to kind of feed the insecurity, the doubt, and the fear if you listen to those things, and so when I look at celebrities and I see them move past the cancel culture, or making a mistake, step, or having a failure or a flop and getting back up and doing it anyway, it's such a great example of the resilience and the grit that you can have as a business owner, as a coach, as a creator, to hear those things, see them acknowledge that they're part of the journey.

The most successful people in the world all have scrutiny. If you Google like, You know, bad reviews of Taylor Swift, Beyonce, presidential candidates, Kamala Harris, like how much scrutiny she comes under, political, government officials, like we've got all of these people who have bad things that are said about them, but they continue to do it anyway.

And I think it's a big [00:19:00] learning lesson for ourselves that we can continue to do it anyway. And we're even at a smaller scale, like you're talking about maybe like, okay, hundreds of people who maybe don't like you. They're looking at millions of people who don't like them and they're still showing up and they're still giving their best and they're still putting in the work and doing it anyway.

And I think it's a great lesson for us to learn.

Joanna Newton: actually currently going through a situation with someone who doesn't like me. Okay? They clearly don't like me. I know none of the things that they're saying or doing are true. And I know that I'm doing a great job and all of that. The even more interesting thing about this story is this person has no power or authority over me or my money, And I still let it get to me. it bothers me that this person clearly doesn't like me. [00:20:00] And I was talking to my husband about the other day and I was like, I don't want to be like this because I'm not saying we shouldn't take like, we should take constructive criticism with reason and, think about it and apply and reflect, right? It's not good to walk around the world being like, I'm right, I'm right, I'm right all the time. But in this situation, I know I'm right. I know I've done nothing wrong. And I actually know that this person has no effect of my future, my money, my company in any way. Yet it still takes my time and energy and, thought, and I don't want to do that. I don't want to dwell on that. And then, could you imagine that actually being like hundreds of thousands of millions of people?

Like, I don't know if I could handle that, but I want to be able to handle that. I want to be able to say, I know who I am, I know I'm doing my best, and this person not thinking I'm great literally doesn't matter. I don't have to convince them I'm great. They can think I'm [00:21:00] horrible all they want and it doesn't have any effect on me, but it still affects me and I wish it didn't like, and I wish I knew how to navigate that.

Michelle Pualani: Well, you're human, Joanna. Like, we are affected. Yes. Ah! What? I had no idea. So, really, like, we are affected by the people around us. We are tribal at our core. It is a matter of the reptilian brain to be able to fit in. in and not be ostracized. Like that is a very true thing. And your brain, its main goal is survival.

We were just at a business conference and had a really great presentation by Don Wood all about the psychology and therapy around the root cause of anxiety, depression and other symptomatic issues that we deal with. Is trauma and the experience that we have and what we're holding onto from our past experiences and like We focus on this podcast of the implications of women in our society and the pressures that we face What we're seeing here is a [00:22:00] classic representation of people pleasing.

We want to please people We don't care about how it necessarily feels It's not necessarily impacts us, but we want them to like us. We want them to feel good around us. We want them to feel okay. It's part of like maybe a caring, nurturing way that we have been either brought up or potentially even kind of an internal need that is again, more based on that human psychology of needing to fit in and needing to be liked and needing to feel included in something as opposed to ostracized.

So I think that there are these things and compulsions governing us. But as my business mentor has shared with me before, is that you're really only going to be able to grow to the level of scrutiny that you're able to take when you look at these people and there are struggles with mental health, which I think is an important discussion.

And we chat about that on the podcast often of people who are struggling at that level, because they're. Is so much pressure. There is so much scrutiny. There is so much pain that comes along with that and how [00:23:00] you see yourself and how you self identify and your persona. And that can be impacted by what people say about you, whether that's in the tabloids or in your comments or straight to your face, or even sometimes that energetic feeling like maybe Joanna, they're not saying like, I don't like you, but you get that feeling and you know that that's the case.

But we have to continue to face these things. It's not to say that it's not gonna take any of your time and energy, but the more that we can have self trust, self belief, self understanding, and self awareness to acknowledge and identify, like, how we show up in the world, that helps combat these instances and then choosing not to have them around us.

So for me, that's boundary setting, right? Like there are people in our life that we maybe have in our lives because they're family or they've been longtime friends or they are clients and they are paying you or they're audience members that you are not sure about like kicking out because you're worried about what that will mean [00:24:00] or say about you or the reflect that it has on your business.

But ultimately, we have to remember that it's our lives, it's our businesses, it's our lives. our way of being and we get to decide who comes into that or not. With 8 billion people on this planet, there are so many who are going to look to you for support, for love, for appreciation, for everything that you have to offer as a coach, as a content creator. And then there are those people who are going to be really shitty and it's okay to not have them be in your life.

It's okay to delete the comment. It's okay to create that separation. And then navigate, like ask yourself questions. I feel like this person doesn't like me. I feel affected by that. What is it about that that bothers me? What do I feel like I'm trying to accomplish? where can you uncover within you where those things are coming up and how can you, you know, navigate and change that?

And so kind of back to Ariana, I think that there's this evolution and growth that she's gone through. And of course, she's [00:25:00] dealt with what people are saying. About her in terms of wicked, but now everyone's cheering and applauding her. So there's this certain sense of like time. That's a part of this as well, is that things will change.

Things will evolve. Like there are opportunities with people, clients who maybe you've had a bad experience with, or maybe, you know, the, they didn't get the exchange that they wanted, but then you're able to remedy through that, through a really good customer service experience. I think so often we get stuck in the negative.

And even if we've had a bad experience, we kind of just hold on to that bad experience. Say you went to a restaurant and you had a really bad meal. Does it mean that it's always a bad meal? Does it mean that you're not going to give it a chance again? You kind of just like sit with this angry, sensitive, Perception.

the server was terrible. The meal was terrible. And you've kind of got this icky feeling about it, right? You could hold on to that and say, I'm never coming back to this location again, or you can give it some time, give it some [00:26:00] space, go back and see if things have changed.

Maybe it was that server was just having a bad day, or maybe you were projecting something into the experience. Maybe the food item just wasn't right for you and you get something else and it's amazing. So we. We each have the opportunity to change that experience for someone else if they have a bad experience with us or that we've had with someone, that we can kind of reformulate how we project into that circumstance, into that experience if that's something that we want to do. 

Joanna Newton: Really good points, Michelle. You always have them. And I think choosing Ariana was so smart because she is such an interesting figure to talk about. I can think of like 100 more things we could talk about. one thing that really sticks out to me as we have this conversation is, in a way, Ariana is, well, she is a CEO in some ways because she has a makeup brand, but I think we think about some of these big figure celebrities like Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Selena Gomez, who I think have all hit billionaire status this year.

I think that [00:27:00] might be true. I'm not sure about Ariana, but Selena Gomez and, and Taylor Swift both are, but we think of them as celebrities and personalities. In a way, they're hugely prominent female CEOs that we can look at and see their path and trajectory and kind of understand what it looks like to be a female CEO and a female leader. Because especially as coaches and creators who are putting our names and faces out there, even though it's at like, A much smaller scale than these figures, we can kind of look at their examples, what challenges they've navigated, what things they've gone through and really apply it to ourselves because they're running businesses.

Something I think about, Taylor Swift this past year came under a lot of scrutiny for, how many different versions of her albums she was, creating and that she's just money hungry and all of these things. But you do realize that Swift is essentially [00:28:00] a corporation. her team, the people she employs. If tomorrow, well, the heiress tour is over, but say tomorrow, she's like, I don't want to be a thing anymore. People would lose their jobs. she has a payroll to think of and people to support. as a company, as a CEO, and I think we have to remember that a lot of these figures, Ariana Grande included, one, she has a makeup company, right?

She has a makeup company, but she has a team. She has these people. The decisions she makes affect a whole company of people as a CEO, and she has to think about Think like that. business schools don't tend to look at those as examples, case studies to look at. We look at people like Steve Jobs or Elon Musk, or you know, in that world.

But, these female celebrities that are running empires, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Selena Gomez, all of these people, they're essentially female CEOs running corporations in a way.

Michelle Pualani: [00:29:00] Absolutely. And I think that's such a great thing to bring up and such a wonderful reminder that narrative is changing. Like the power that we hold is changing and evolving. And it's a beautiful and wonderful thing to watch these powerhouse women, Rihanna, Blake Lively, like all of these Faces that we see as icons, celebrities, movie stars, pop stars, bleeding into the world of business where they've been able to create, they're the ultimate personal brands.

They have demonstrated that you can take your face, your personality, your identity, embed it into some sort of value that you're bringing to the world, You have the singers, you have the actors, you have the products that they're creating. There is some sort of value exchange happening in the way that they show up and they're using their face to represent that.

But this beautiful way of shifting into a feminine representation of what it means to be a successful money making [00:30:00] business owner and personal brand identity in our culture and in our world. I love looking to them as examples of what it means to be incredibly successful. And as they navigate their personal lives, obviously that comes with the balance of figuring out what that means and what that looks like for themselves.

But I think it's a beautiful representation and a powerhouse kind of place to be. And I'll share some things. I just Googled this. So this is just from Google, but Ariana Grande's net worth in 2024 is estimated to be 230 million. So she's not quite at the level of. Our Taylor Swift and our Rihanna, but, uh, she's been incredibly successful across singer, songwriter, actress, and brand creator.

And she's one of the most well known and highest earning celebrities in the world. She has over 380 million followers on Instagram, 34 million on tick tock and 52 million subscribers on YouTube. And I kind of want to wrap up on this point is that. You are going to have your haters and other people, but Ariana Grande [00:31:00] is someone that I didn't even really think about, like, as an artist.

I've never really been, like, an Ariana Grande fan. I don't really, if her song came on, I wouldn't know the name of it. I haven't bought any albums, but as I see her personality, in SNL or seeing her in Wicked or seeing her in interviews. I am drawn and magnetized to who she is. And that shows up in facial expressions.

It's tone of voice. It's what she says. It's her entire way of being. And that is something to learn from. That is something to recognize and say who she being. Yes, the skillset. Yes. Her vocals. Yes. The acting. Yes. All the time, energy and work she's put into it, but the way in which she's being and how she shows up in the world and her unique personality, because she's incredibly unique.

She's got a, you know, a different look. She's got her tattoos. She's got this unique, delicate feminine personality, but with the [00:32:00] tattoos has a little bit of like a quote unquote darker side. And this balance that she brings to her persona is what I'm attracted to.

remembering that as a personal brand, your uniqueness, whatever that looks like, whether it's funky glasses that you wear, whether it's the clothing and how you show up, whether it's the way that you move your face, the way that you hold your body and your posture, the tone and inflection in your voice.

And it's all there. The way that you're creating videos, whatever it is, with how you put yourself out into the world, remember that your unique differentiating factor is going to be what magnetizes people to you. It can also repel, but that's okay. Focus on the magnetism. Focus in what you're drawing to you and focus on that positive energy.

So thank you so much for tuning in. Go ahead and hit that subscribe button. And if you found this valuable and helpful in terms of inspiring your own personal brand, share it with a business friend. We would love [00:33:00] that support and we'll see you in the next episode.