I'm Fine
Hosted by supermodel and chronic pain advocate Jean Campbell, I'm Fine aims to redefine the narrative of pain in a culture where "I'm fine" often masks the reality of living with pain. By sharing personal stories, mind-body techniques, and practical solutions, the podcast seeks to help listeners move beyond pain and discover possibilities, positivity, and productivity.
I'm Fine
Mo Gawdat: Pain Is Okay. Just Don't Go to the Suffering
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I'm Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets Mo Gawdat, engineer, entrepreneur, and one of the world's most prominent voices on happiness and artificial intelligence, to explore grief, love, loss, and what it really means to be okay. Mo reflects on a life of extraordinary professional success that left him clinically miserable in his twenties, the Saturday morning his five-year-old daughter held up a mirror to the person he'd become, and the years of mathematical obsession that led him to reverse-engineer happiness itself.
Mo speaks with characteristic precision and unexpected tenderness about the loss of his son Ali in 2014, the teacher who spent 21 years showing his father how to accept life as it is, and whose death became the ultimate test of everything Mo had built. He draws a profound distinction between pain and suffering, reframes grief as displaced love searching for somewhere to go, and offers a vision of death, rooted not in scripture but in quantum physics and the theory of relativity.
Mo Gawdat is the former Chief Business Officer of Google X, bestselling author of Solve for Happy, Scary Smart and Unstressable, and founder of the One Billion Happy movement. This is an episode about the algorithm underneath all of it and the losses that proved it true.
About I’m Fine:
“I’m Fine is more than a Podcast — it’s a service. A space for the millions of people
navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.” Jean
Campbell.
I’m Fine is a Podcast hosted by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell is a safe space and platform where high-performance people talk honestly, often humorously, about their life experiences and healing as Jean explores the inner world behind their
outward success. Jean has navigated chronic pain since she was 12 years old, this
experience inspired her to create I’m Fine to help reshape the stigma around pain -
emotional, physical, and mental - to give a voice to the many who hide behind the words:
With Very Special Thanks to Mo Gawdat
Technical Production by Copperbeach
Social Media Ruby Fern
Creative Production Patrick Armstrong of Sidekick Productions
Series Producer Camilla Morton
Founder and Executive Producer Jean Campbell