Unfiltered Christian Podcast
Welcome to "Unfiltered Christian," a podcast where faith meets authenticity. Join me as we share the raw and real experiences of our Christian journey, navigating the highs and lows of life. Through heartfelt testimonials and candid conversations, we'll explore the challenges and triumphs of living a life of faith. Whether you're struggling or soaring, this podcast aims to uplift, encourage, and remind you that you're never alone in your walk with Christ. Tune in for genuine insights, relatable stories, and a community of believers striving to grow together.
Unfiltered Christian Podcast
Ep 8 - Balancing Faith, Motherhood, and a Busy Life
Ever felt overwhelmed trying to balance faith, family, and the daily grind? Learn how Sham, our guest and Shay's best friend, navigates this intricate journey, starting from her childhood in Trinidad and moving through her experiences with the Catholic church in England. Sham opens up about her deep sense of belonging in her faith community and the challenges she faces raising her children in a Christian home. From integrating simple practices like daily prayers to gradually bringing church into their routine, Sham's story is both inspiring and practical for parents striving to instill faith in their kids.
Discover actionable strategies to keep your spiritual life vibrant amidst the chaos of parenting and demanding work schedules. We dive into practical methods such as finding moments for prayer during commutes and organizing family worship sessions. Hear how couples can fortify their spiritual connection through joint prayer, even with clashing work hours. This conversation is a treasure trove of real-life experiences and tips, offering a roadmap for maintaining a strong relationship with God while juggling the demands of modern family life.
Explore innovative ways to nurture your children's faith, with special tips for parents of twins. Shay and Sham discuss the varied learning styles of Sham's twins, McKay and Manson, and the importance of reinforcing school lessons at home. From breaking down Bible stories into digestible sections to using multimedia resources, we share strategies to keep children engaged and eager to learn. Learn how rewarding genuine actions can help reinforce moral teachings, creating a spiritually enriching environment that binds the family closer together.
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Hey guys, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, depending on where you are. It's Shay. It's only me with you today because we have a special guest. So we have my other bestie, sham, that's going to be with us on this episode. So welcome to the show, sham.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much.
Speaker 1:So Sham is going to be multitasking with us today because she has her little one, so you guys might be hearing a little bit of baby noise in the background, which is okay. So welcome once again, hope that you have a lovely time and, um, I'm just gonna get straight into um my first question. So why are you a Christian?
Speaker 2:how can I answer this? Um? Because I believe in god and I want the best for my life and the life of my family okay, let me ask you in another way when did your christian walk start?
Speaker 1:so when did your journey start?
Speaker 2:um, I would say more. So. Well, it started when, obviously, I was younger, because I was always going to church with my grandma but, that was more of like a baptist church. And then when I got to England and I started going to a catholic church so I became more into it, then I guess probably when I was like 12. Okay, and then I've always been to different churches, but I've always found myself basically coming back to a Catholic church.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's interesting. So, guys, when Sham says when she went to church with her grandma, she's originally from Trinidad, so she went to church with grandma Shout out to the grandmas, because me and Cece spoke about this the grandmas were a part of our journey with going to church, um, so that's amazing. What do you think it is that kept drawing you back to going to a catholic church? Is it the practices or is it the feel you get when you're there?
Speaker 2:um, I think it's a little bit of both, to be fair, I feel more like I don't know, more like at home. I guess there and I guess I understand more there, for example, if I do go to other churches and for example, you know, when they say, you know they speak in in tongues and things like this, I understand obviously people do get the holy spirit feeling. But then to me I'm like, if I'm not always understanding what's being said, I don't always know if it's good, that's being afraid of one. So I think that's the feeling I kind of get.
Speaker 1:Completely understand that. That's one of the things that was a big thing for me when it went towards why I became an Adventist, because that's something I was not comfortable with myself and, to be honest, through study, I saw that speaking quote unquote in tongues it just means speaking in other tongues. So it's like when they gained the Holy Spirit, basically like when Jesus left and he died and he was. He rose again and the Holy Spirit was put onto the disciples. It was literally just him giving the ability, giving them the ability to speak in other languages, right, but that misinterpretation has just the enemy has done well to drag that through. Um, and I get that completely, um, that uncomfortability, um, and it just shows that the holy spirit is within you and guiding you in that path.
Speaker 2:So that completely makes sense and I feel sometimes I know obviously people can get that feeling, but I feel like sometimes is it all just genuine feelings as well? I feel like sometimes and I don't want to say obviously people are not generally feeling like that, but sometimes I feel like is it how you are feeling at that present moment in time, or is it all just following one sort of behaviour kind of thing.
Speaker 1:I get you, I completely get you. I mean, the enemy dwells in the church, right? So he will make you feel like what you're doing is real and it's genuine, and it doesn't necessarily even mean that you know I'm saying um, it's just, it's seeking that truth for yourself. It's very important, it's very, very important. So I completely get what you're saying in regards to that. Um, so what has it been like to um, to be a Christian and to become a mum? What has that transition been like?
Speaker 2:um, I think to be a Christian has been good, challenging when it's a mum, because you're trying to teach your children to follow in that direction that they don't obviously always understand. So in that respect it's like obviously taking it slow and, you know, starting from the beginning, just letting them know like this is what you aspire to be, like obviously, and get um them to kind of give you, you to basically kind of give them that breakdown. So you know you start off with obviously just praying in the morning and at nighttime, just getting them used to that way of life.
Speaker 2:And then obviously, slowly introducing them into the way of church, because I know obviously for kids it can be long, obviously, and then it's obviously having that challenge of you know, sit down, don't make noise, don't say this. Then it's obviously having that challenge of you know, sit down, don't make noise, don't say this. So it's, it's kind of challenging because obviously you want to have that enjoyment for yourself when you're going to church, where you're having to obviously not even listening half the time because you're trying to keep them entertained and keep them trying to learn the way of god. So it is kind of challenging now, I would say, now that they can talk and have their own, you know, opinions back to me.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to tell them no, this is how it should be. So, yeah, I think that has definitely been a challenge, as obviously trying to be a Christian, but, you know, as a mum, so I will stick to it and I will prevail and they're they're good with it anyway, so that obviously they know how to pray and then they're praying at school as well, which actually helps. So it reinforces what you're trying to do at home, so that they're getting that mindset you know this is what is expected of them and you know this is what god expects you to be. And you know, when you are believing in God and you are actually following the way of life, you will receive good things. So that's literally what I'm trying to teach myself and to teach my children.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's excellent and, to be honest, guys, they are very good at that. Um, they really have some. I remember when they started their journey at school and they were, they were gaining those um that routine of like their. They started their journey at school and they were. They were gaining those um that routine of like their prayers that they have at school and, honestly, they've been excellent at remembering them and learning them. I remember like being on the phone listening to Sham, like teaching them, and you know they're really, really good at gaining that. So I feel like they're definitely understanding, um that journey and I completely get it because it was the same with, you know, my little man as well. When he started going to church. You know he was he'd be rolling on the floor and just doing the most right and um, I remember at one point someone said to me, oh, he's getting really good, and I'm like, yeah, but he's still on the floor yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2:When you don't see that, I'm like, have you seen what he's done? But yeah, I get it because outsiders actually see the small progress they make but then it's hard for you to see it in yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah exactly that's what I was thinking. I was like, are you sure? But they were right, because now he is really good at staying in there. But then I still have challenges because, like now it's like, now he wants to just play, like before he'd want to sing, at least, and now he doesn't want to sing anymore, he just wants to play. And I'm like, no, we're at church. So it's like, oh, you think?
Speaker 2:you've gotten over it. That's what they are they're doing now as well, because it's almost like okay, yeah, we're joining now. It's like time to have our fun and I'm like yeah, you know you can have it after, but during you actually need to like have that focus on there as well right, exactly that, exactly that.
Speaker 1:So it is challenging, but you know God is with us and we must keep going because you know he, he presented us these children and we do want to grow them in the way of his path. You know it's the best path, especially with the world we're in now. You want to grow them in that path for sure, um, but what has it like been been like for you in your personal relationship? Like trying to find that time with God and with juggling the kids, because I found that tough no, definitely.
Speaker 2:So I'm like finding that sometimes I'm having to take that time out, think that five minutes here, that five minutes there, like for example, in the mornings, if I'm going to work on a train, then I'm like, you know, just talking to myself, talking to God, just, you know, putting things in place. I might be writing things down that I want to remember to maybe talk to him later on and kind of say you know, these are the things I want for my life and you know how can you support me with kind of changing those um sort of things. So that's kind of I've been calling upon him a lot lately in this um last few months, but sometimes you know it's only him you can talk to because he might be the one to better things for you. He will be the one to better things for you amen, amen.
Speaker 1:It's definitely like. It is a challenge. It's definitely important to try and find those moments and he completely understands. You know I mean you know you're like you're like tripling me in children. You know like she has three, I have one. So do you know I mean it is tough. And in working, you know you're working full-time and you know you are trying to juggle everywhere and being a wife. So you know that relationship with God is just. It can be challenging, but it's great that you're trying to still make sure he's at the forefront with whatever spare time you do have and I get that because I do the same thing on the bus journey as well. I'll still pray at home, but then I'll still like read my verse or my bible or whatever it is on the bus journey to work, because I have that 20 minutes. Yeah, so it's like you know it's definitely with like you have to be much more intentional about making sure I want to do a lot more of basically well, going forward.
Speaker 2:No, of course, I feel like I've put that on a backbone. It's like, yeah, okay, if I have that quick five minutes here, that's when I'm doing it all, and if I quite and I'm like, no, I need to actually make time for that. Because if I can make time for everything else, yes, then I can also make time for that as well it's true, it's very true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very true. I feel like that's what I've gotten tough with and as our kids get older they take it.
Speaker 1:You know it does get a little bit easier, but you know it's then now you have to make sure you're building, helping them to build their relationship with God as long as you're own you know, and then as a family as well, there's all areas to cover because it's like I've been trying to implement more family worship with, like me and my little one, where we're just even if it's not all every day of the week, but even if it's like on a sunday where we're both home, I've been trying to like sing with him and like read something from a verse from the bible and explain what it means to him, or something like that.
Speaker 1:So I've been trying to do that with him more, or even like recently, yeah, because it's it really is like it's so powerful and, um, that's where he's now developed this whole thing with prayer. And now he prays at church and everyone's just like, oh my gosh, he's a prayer warrior and I'm like, is he? But like I'm not saying he isn't, but I'm saying because we pray so much together, he's picked up from me?
Speaker 1:yeah, of course yeah, so it's like there's things like that you can do, or like switch to like, because I'm struggling to explain the scripture to him. Sometimes I switch back to just his children's bible, yeah, and I just read him the stories from there and now I just pray for him to understand it before we we read it, and then afterwards I pray about him remembering what he's read and being able to apply it to him's life. So the same thing I do for myself, I've literally started for him. Yeah, so you can do things like that as well yeah, I think I'll definitely do that so okay.
Speaker 1:So what has it been like um in your Christian walk, in your marriage?
Speaker 2:um, I would say we can do a lot better, because I think with our work schedule are it's like sometimes we're not finding enough time to kind of like maybe pray together more, or like obviously we go to church on the Sunday but I think at least praying together more, we're not finding that time to kind of do it more together because, for example, I'm gone in the mornings early so we don't see each other, mainly in the mornings, and then when we come back in the night, um, you were getting them ready for bed, feeding them, doing homework, because like reading stories and stuff like that. So by this time I've now done all of that. I'm trying to get myself prepared for the next day. So we're not technically doing it at the end of the day either. So it's like we need to do a lot more, like, for example, maybe two or three times in a week, and it's like, okay, you might need to put more effort into doing that as well.
Speaker 1:I get you guys. As you can see, juggling marriage and parenthood is not easy and it's not easy and I feel like this is why, um, in my singleness I've had a lot of people talking about there's so much you can do in your singleness. Make sure you're doing this, make sure you're doing that. Um, you know, make sure to do this, make sure you're doing that, because it's like you, when you end up in that family unit, it's so hard to make that time, but you know it's important and you have to be intentional.
Speaker 2:You have to be intentional and I'll say what the good bit of it is that he would actually make that time to basically say their prayers and do stories with the boys before they go to bed. So every night, for example, he would literally make them all say their prayers together and then he would then pray over them himself. So he actually does that and even though he went to Ghana, he actually called to do that as well. So it's like he's still kind of keeping that practice up.
Speaker 1:I love that, yes, because I was going to mention that actually. So I'm happy that you did. Because I love that yes, because I was going to mention that actually. So I'm happy that you did because I found that very powerful that, even though dad is on holiday, he's called to say you know, let's pray together and, um, that's. It shows it that moral will continue to carry through to them. Now they know that is very important that we do have that prayer time together. Um, so that is really powerful. Um, and there's nothing wrong with recognizing as well where improvements is needed. Um, and I think that's what I've been loving about doing this podcast, because through conversation, I've come up with things like oh, you know what this could be done better, or I haven't noticed this, or that's, I haven't realized this.
Speaker 1:So that's been really great, um yeah it's true yeah, it's really been powerful always gonna see.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you can't always see where areas need improvement unless you obviously have a conversation with someone or you know. Someone says you know, actually I've done this, you know, would that benefit your life and things like that. So you're not always going to know. You have to have those conversations to be able to see.
Speaker 1:Definitely. That's why, in regards to us doing family worship, I just thought, at least once a week, at least once a week, once we're all home in the morning, we can try. Do you know what I mean? And because they're young and they're you know, they're still young, we don't have to make it as long and then also, you give them a choice of a song that they want to sing. That's always quite fun as well. Um, to let them choose, so that's always quite an excellent. Or you can even play their favorite song and they can sing along to it, their favorite, like christian song, whatever that may be. Yeah, so you can also do that as well, because that's also really fun. And then let each of them pray, because then they make it's for them to be more involved yes.
Speaker 2:So that's why I kind of want to incorporate, you know, as time go on, because I remember um, like in Trinidad, my auntie obviously. She has seven kids, so basically what they do is like, for example, she's Christian and then her husband's muslim, but what the kids, the I think the younger five that um lived in the house. So what she would do is like every morning before they go went to school, they all like held hands in a circle and they would all pray, like someone will pray, like each person will take turns within that week to pray over each other before they went off to school. And I was like I actually like that idea. It's like you know, you all, like brothers and your siblings, you come together, you pray for each other, you go off to school, next day comes and that's literally how they were done and I was like that's actually a nice idea to kind of do.
Speaker 2:Because you're setting the standards and you're setting that pace, for you know, when you leave that house, you are going to be protected and you come back home the same way yeah, I hear you, I hear you.
Speaker 1:That is that, that is really beautiful and I do love that. Um, that's something we do as well, no matter what when we're leaving. Um, we do also implement that, that in the morning, for sure. So to the point where you know my son, he just pray himself, you know he'll be like mom can I pray?
Speaker 1:you will be. You know, it'll be like a fight for us both to pray as much as we are running, even if we're running for the bus, even if I say look, pray and open that door, at the same time, that prayer is going to get said, you know um. So, yes, I completely get that um, but do you, have, you guys, ever done family worship, or is it something that you're saying you would like to implement?
Speaker 2:no, I, that's one of the things I want to implement, because I think we've done it separately, like we haven't done it together, as in, everyone together in that room okay, yes, I completely understand now so I'll either do it with the boys or Cameron will either do it with the boys. It's like we've never actually because of how it is, I think sometimes in the morning I'll do it before I go, I'll do Memphis or something and then do it with the boys before they go off to school.
Speaker 2:So it's not that we're doing it together.
Speaker 1:I get you, I get you, I completely get it. So, with having what I'm going to say, with having three boys is there? I'm going to speak for the older two here. Do you feel like there's one out of the other that understands more about god, or do you feel like they both understand just as well?
Speaker 2:I say maybe mckay more kind of grasps the concepts maybe quicker but then manson will get there. It's like sometimes. For example, sometimes I think he may not be taking it in, but then on occasion, when we kind of say it, he'll be like no, it is this. So it's like he takes it in. But then sometimes I wouldn't know at first if he even got what I said, but then he shows me that obviously he gets it later on.
Speaker 1:By the way boys, the boys are by the way. The boys are by the way guys. I should say I'm saying by the way boys, by the way guys, the boys are twins. So it's um quite interesting. So there's twins and then a smaller baby. So it's quite interesting to hear that actually, um, that they, they, they do have that and they have that influence on each other as well.
Speaker 2:So that's that's amazing, yeah and then they will correct each other with it as well. And it's good that they're learning it at school, because now it's like, for example, um, they have different colors in school to basically do do with god. So like yellow means you walk with jesus, and then red means that you are loving and kind, and then, um, I think they're blue, which is you always try your best, and I think they're green I can't remember green. But basically now mansa comes home and he's like I don't want the the red sticker, I don't want the blue one, I basically want the yellow one. And I'm like okay, but then you need to show them that you're actually walking with jesus christ. You can't just want a sticker. You actually have to show you them that you're actually walking with Jesus Christ. You can't just want a sticker. You actually have to show you know that you're doing something in regards to that. So now it's like trying to get them to do things to earn that sticker, so that they understand the meaning behind it.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, the characters of these two. Honestly, this is what I love about them they're very like, they're very sure of themselves, these two, their minds are very focused and it's like no, mum, I don't want this one, I want that one.
Speaker 2:But yeah, like you said, they're learning the reason why. You can't just have these things.
Speaker 1:No, you need to actually earn it. Yeah, exactly that. So that's quite powerful. I love it. But it's good that they're picking it up and it's good that they're listening, because my brother used to do the same thing. My mom used to be reading him a book and he'd be playing with his car. She never thought that he was listening, yeah, and then she said that after reading it, after a while, he would be repeating the whole book yes to her and she didn't know he was even picking that up.
Speaker 1:So I love the way children learn and the fact that they're twins and they're able to support each other. That's definitely a positive. Do you think? Well, I think you've probably touched on this, to be fair, but maybe so we can, we can see again because, um, do you think there's any difficulties that you have with them learning about God that you can work on? Actually?
Speaker 2:um, maybe more so. Probably the story is because sometimes they like to read books but it's almost like they have to be interested in that. So like when I first start off reading it is like they're interested and then it kind of drift a bit so.
Speaker 2:I think what I'm gonna try doing is basically doing it in sections. So I think I did it the other night where I did, instead of reading like the whole story, maybe read like half of it or read one page a night, so that they're getting used to it and they want to know what's happening next, kind of try fix it around that to see if it kind of grasps their concept a bit more, or might even basically showing that and reading that one page and might find a story that they can watch that relates to it, so that. So I can see if they get it more that way.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I love, that I get it. I mean, like I said, it's either way, it's always. You can only like I have so many thoughts going through my head, guys, trying to process it all. You can only try your best, but it's always good to have ideas that you know you can put forward, and then you know your children the best anyways. So you know what you can do to kind of go forward with, I feel like with me as well. That's what I did.
Speaker 1:I found stuff that I know, that um, that Khan's liked, you know that, that I know that he would be interested in. So my first thing I did with him was music. It was easy. I found all the Christian songs. You got like listeners, kids and stuff like that. And then that was when he was younger sorry, guys, not feeling to 100 today. And then, um, then I, um, what else was there? I think that's when we discovered um Superbook, which is excellent. He remembers a lot of stuff from superbook um that to the point where when we're now reading the bible, like his children's bible, he'll be like oh, mommy, this was in superbook, this is in superbook, but I think it's explained really well. And then make it adventurous and because it's got this like little robot in it and stuff, the kids are like, oh, I love this, um, so I guess it's just discovering what, like you know, once it's approved, um, yeah yeah once you know that it's like children friendly, should I say you know what?
Speaker 1:what they like? Yeah, um, and then there's a new one. Now there's a new like cartoon, that they're all, they're all black characters, which I love, oh my gosh, which I love is that the one you told me about?
Speaker 1:yeah, I think even your mom told me she shared it with me as well. Um, but at the moment, like, for example, khan's is struggling to get into that because he's so used to his other stuff. So, like his mind is not really into it, but I would like him to because I feel like that's the true characters of the Bible and seeing them, the way they've illustrated it, it's amazing. Now, guys, don't quote me, I do not remember what this show is called, but it's popped up on YouTube and it's like it's illustrated in regards to like they're talking but they're also moving around and stuff, and then when it's time for them to speak, you hear like the voice. Let them word speak in their mouth, move, but it's like it's even I've been enjoying watching it. It's been amazing, um, it's been on a whole different level. I think it's wonderful, whoever created that amazing um, and just seeing like their hair and at the details down to their lips and everything, great, great, great, great um illustrated christian cartoon, especially a black one for our children to see themselves.
Speaker 1:Um, and I feel like now khan's is struggling with it, my son's struggling with it because he's like mom, I think he think he said to me yesterday. That's not what David looks like. I'm like yes, it does. Yes, it is, you know, but it's hard to explain to him that this is the world has changed, what the Bible characters did look like, especially Jesus, so it's tough In regards to that. It's tough.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's the thing, Because things have changed so much. It's like trying to find the way it used to look to be like. You know, this is what you're actually looking at and this is what we are trying to get you to do not look forward to instead of what you're actually seeing now. And I think me I'm trying to get them into super, because I think I'll play super book one for them and they weren't interested. So I'm trying to think how can I actually get them into that? They, the listener kids and everything they love, because they love to sing, they love listening to listener kids and all the Christian songs on there and I think I need to maybe play that new one again, which I need to find the name.
Speaker 2:I don't know what it is now to see, but I'm now starting to maybe put things in the background again, because I think that's how I first started getting them interested in things like that. I've just put leave it playing in the background. Even if they're not watching it. I know that it's going in because they're within the room. So I think that's what I'm going to start doing again, to see if they get into get into it, because I really want them to get into it because that way they'll learn a lot of the bible stories that way, instead of me just reading it and kind of showing you what's in the book, because sometimes it's good to get different perspectives of it, not just you know what you say yeah, it's true, it's good for them to see.
Speaker 1:I completely agree with that and, to be honest, collins didn't like superbook at the beginning. You know he really didn't. He wasn't into it either. It's over time as well, of it just constantly popping up on YouTube and stuff. So, yeah, you can play it in the background and stuff like that. He really wasn't into it, trust me. Now, this is one of his. At one point that's the only thing he would watch throughout the whole week. So sometimes it's just like I never thought he'd be into it as well. So sometimes, yeah, you could just play in the background or whatever they'll get into it, there'll be something that would draw them to it and you'll be like, okay, wow, you're really, you're really into that. Now you know, yeah, and um, also, the yippee app is amazing. I feel like that's an excellent app um, yes, yeah as well yeah, yippee is amazing.
Speaker 1:I've been exposed to that and he loves that as well and I feel like it's safe. You can just send them an app and most majority of the stuff, if it's not either Christian related, it's healthy with within learning. Um, you know that. Yeah, that's, like I said, healthy and positive. You know you don't have to be as scared of what they're watching on there. Um, that's what I love about that app as well. So, even through your times of your struggle that you've had in your relationship with elohim, how have you tried to sustain your children's relationship with learning? You know about him and and things like that, even though you've had your struggles or you're going through your struggles.
Speaker 2:I'm still trying to like continue and be consistent with them, with them, basically with the teachings, because obviously I don't want it to fall off. So even if I haven't done it myself, I'll make sure that I've done it with them, at least would have done it with them, and we'll still do the prayers, we'll still kind of read the story, and if I'm not doing it, then I know that my husband is actually doing it also, so that they're not missing out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so throughout the week at least their prayer life is being maintained with either mum or dad. Yeah, excellent, I like that. That's really good. Yeah, like I said, it just takes time to just add on those. You're just adding on things, you know. You're just adding on bit programs or you know doing whatever, just doing something, basically Just to get him to have some type of time with God, whether it's music, whatever it is, and things like that. Yes, exactly, yeah, okay, music, whatever it is, um, and and things like that. Yes, exactly, yeah, okay. So, and you know, what do you think you can say to encourage a new mum starting out and trying to just, yeah, juggle that life?
Speaker 2:I would say the one key is to probably be consistent. Even though you know it is hard, don't be discouraged by it, just keep doing it. You do it with your children, you do it your um by yourself. Just be consistent, because sometimes when you're not being consistent, it's harder to kind of try to bring yourself back to that stage. So it's if you feel like you know you've drifted off one day, two days, try and get yourself back there, because the longer you drift off, the harder it will be to get back to that point.
Speaker 2:So I'll just say maybe just be consistent and obviously always ask god to help you and support you and be consistent, because it is hard it definitely is, but you just have to basically keep pushing through amen, thank you so much for that.
Speaker 1:Um, I really love that. I really love that. Um, it is tough, it really is, but I couldn't have said it better myself. Um, stay consistent, keep asking god for that help and just keep pushing through. So thank you so much for that advice. Sham Really appreciate it and that is the end of our show. Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having me. It was great.
Speaker 1:I know baby M back there is, just like mommy, I want your time come on now, you've been talking too far.
Speaker 1:Mine's is home sick today and he just keeps nudging me for food. So, guys, it's not even easy. Even we're trying to come together to do this um episode, um, so you'll be hearing some babies and whispering and whatever. But hopefully you've just caught everything, you've just caught the concept of everything and I pray that someone is encouraged by this episode today. And, yes, guys, thank you, have a blessed week, have a blessed evening and a blessed morning. Thank you, have a blessed week, have a blessed evening and a blessed morning, wherever you are, and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 2:Bye guys.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much, bye.