EP 45 - Where Are The Men In Church?

When you look around church and mostly see women, it raises a bigger question than dating: what happened to the men, and what does church feel like from their side? We get real about why the gender gap shows up so strongly in many UK churches, from the way boys and girls are raised around faith to the subtle messages churches send about who belongs and who leads.

We dig into the hard stuff people avoid saying out loud. Some men experience church as a feminine space with few places to be honest, build friendships, or process life without judgment. Others get approached mainly for labour, lifting, fixing, setting up, playing keys, and then left unseen when they need support. We also talk about men’s mental health, church wounds, and the pressure to “be strong” while suffering in silence. If church is meant to be a hospital, who is making sure men can actually be heard there?

Then we move to solutions that are practical, not performative: ask men what they need, listen without comparison, and create real brotherhood through mentoring, sports, activities, and consistent community. We also share why building welcoming spaces matters for everyone, including Christian singles who want a safe environment that is not loaded with pressure but still keeps God at the centre.

If you care about stronger families, healthier discipleship, and a more balanced church culture, this conversation is for you. Subscribe for more honest Christian talks, share this with someone who needs it, and leave a review so more people can find us.

Transcript

Welcome And The Big Question

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Oh welcome to the Unfiltered Christian Podcast. I'm your girl Shay. I'm CeC and it's my question today. So we pray you're well as well. Pray you're well. Pray you're having a good day wherever you're listening from. So CeCe, I had two questions, but I thought the other one's a bit heavy for us today. So this one should be slightly lighter. So it's a two-part question. I'll start with this part first. You may answer the second one in the midst of this first one. Um, so why do you think there's more women in the church than men?

SPEAKER_00 0:49

I think that's depending on what country you're in.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Okay. In England. In England, why do you think there's more women in the church than men? May depend on the I feel like majority denominations. Maybe yeah. Yeah. Either way, there's a there's a predominant thing of women being very much in the church more than men or more involved or doing more. What do you think that is? Where has that come from? Has it, you know, has it you can even go back, has it always been that way? How do we get to this place where women have dominated the church?

SPEAKER_00 1:49

Um I'm here trying to think now. So trying to I'm trying to go back into when I used to go to church back home and speed it up until now.

When We Start Noticing The Gap

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Do you know what? I think like when I look back at my early childhood, I think it balanced out. Um I think maybe when I got to my twenties, um, that's when when I when I realized that oh yeah, um there's more women than men.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

Um do you think we never noticed because we were kids?

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Is it because we got older and then I think yeah, when you're trying to find your husband.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. You're like, ooh, where the men?

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Yeah. I was trying to think. Um do you know what? I think I don't know if it's to do with culture, but I think like okay, this is a good point. It could be culture background. Say I on my mom's side, I have two older brothers, right? And they didn't go to church. I did. Why did my mum raise me in the church and not my brothers? Do you know what I mean? Um, they didn't get christened, they didn't, they didn't do my my mum. Made sure everything was me, but with my brothers, they wasn't raised in the church, and I remember asking my mum that, and she she said she don't know.

SPEAKER_01 3:51

That's interesting. That is really interesting. I've never looked at it like that, you know. You wonder why. Why is it that in that generation, because I don't think she's the only person that did it. Um, why did the girls get pushed more to go to church, but the boys didn't get really pushed to go to church at all, you know? It's interesting. Um

How Culture Pushes Girls To Church

SPEAKER_01 4:18

I feel like I've been listening to a lot of stuff, like, you know, there's a lot of I don't know, other podcasts out there and videos about there was even a discussion on you know, Christian radio station that we listened to, and you know, this guy was making a point because he did he's done a play. Um, there's a play out there called Why Did I Not Get Married? Um, and basically it's talking about um the angle of women blaming the church for there not being enough, you know, for the women blaming the church for not being able to get married. Um and it was partly because you know they were complaining about the space and um there's not enough men and all this kind of stuff like that. Different reason I haven't seen the play, but I really want to see it because it's a Christian um producer and writer. Um, but he was saying statistics um show that um men were saying, you know, the same thing. That part of the reason why they're not in church is because it's a female-dominated space. And um it's it's it's because I can't remember, there was something else he said that I cannot remember, but he was just they were just trying to say like the space is a very feminine space. Um there's no space for men themselves. Um, and guys, feel free to email in to us, you know, if you have an opinion on this subject, because I think it's a really um deep subject.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Um I also think women are more social beings compared to men. Women can be in a room and start to engage and talk more, where men are kind of taught to be hard. Um and I think again, I remember, I don't know, like in my 20s, when we used to do like socials, and they used to have like domino nights and and they used to have table tennis, they used to have a lot of things like when I was when I was growing up, there was so much things that involved men. Um there was men's talk, it was more vulnerable. Um and I also think that sometimes church can feel like a chore for men. Um because women are more maternal, right? So where it's and I'm not saying like men are not helpful and men don't help, but then sometimes they could feel like they just want to go to church, they don't want to go to church to work, like oh you know, you're a man, can you do this? Can you bring this down? Can you it's like you you're just you're just there to just be there, but not to be seen. Like nobody's really asked you, like, how's your day? But I think there isn't safe spaces for men, like, yeah, you could go to, I don't know, like, as I was saying, as many people know, like my husband, I don't even know what he is, but yeah, um, I don't know if he's a Christian or whatever, but there is nothing for him to go to, or there is no groups to go to where you're like, oh, I could take him here, and it's not gonna seem like overly godly where people can just be real, where I feel like there's more groups like that for women where women can just like let their hair down, not feel judged, um, and just welcome. But I'm not a man, I'm just I'm just thinking about those things, and then I also think about um like growing up back home, like when boys start to like their their attention span is not there, and then all of a sudden they just get left home, but the girls have to go to church because we can shut up and put up, right? And then like they're just at home doing whatever because they're yeah, it's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

Yeah, that's a good point. Because I feel like as teenagers, like the mum be like, uh, you know, they'll be kind of huffing and puffing, giving out it to you to not want to go to church, and then the mum will be like, oh, okay, but then the daughter, yeah, you gotta get dressed, you better go. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 8:25

And especially like for dads as well, who is the main breadwinner, like if you're a stay-at-home mum, and I'm not making excuses, but if you're like working and you're doing your being the provider, it's kind of like do you know what I want to spend my Sabbath day off rest resting, not to actually go into a church building.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

Yeah, I hear you. Um, I won't add the point though. I mean, I don't, I'm not obviously we're talking about men here, but I will add the point that um maybe you're right, because I was just gonna say women work a lot in church, we don't want to go to church to work. We still work.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

Yeah, but I think it's because we're more maternal, we're more like helpers. When we we'll see someone can be like, oh, like let me help you, let me get that done. But like men, it's more like you have to ask them. Like some men just jump, but I also feel like Satan knows that if he attacks the men, the home is broken, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Right.

Why Men Feel Pushed Out

SPEAKER_00 9:26

Um, so I feel like he attacks men heavily because men are called to lead spiritually, yeah. And I think that's one of the main things because if you if you look at where most men are that are not in church, um, they're outside.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Yeah, I agree. I definitely agree with what you said about there's no spaces for men. I think that is the huge thing. There is no space. I'm not saying this about all churches, by the way. Um, but from what I am seeing, there are no spaces for men. You know, where like I know there's other churches where you see men's ministry is a huge thing, you know. Um, I did hear about another branch of one of our churches, and this guy was talking about they do a um, what do they do? They meet up to do something. Is it once a month or once every two months or whatever? They they even if it's not often, they still meet up to do like I think it's the gym or basketball or whatever it is they do. Um, and what I um loved, like in regards to like even um my best friend's husband, like they kept a a relationship, my other best friend that is, um they kept a relationship with their friends from even secondary school, right? And they actually started their own football like team, like proper team, where like every every year they did get like um actual awards and medals and like trophies and all this stuff. Like they fully created something in their space. Um, and these are all boys that went to school together, who are now grown men, they're in their 40s. Um, they kept something, and I'm saying, like, that's what we don't have, you know. It's something that builds a um a manhood, you know, like a man's ministry, like a like in a sense of like, what am I saying? Do you know what I mean? Like where they've got something for them, um, and that's not being built enough. Because when I think about it, like when I'm looking at even church the last few years, and I'm like, what has the men's ministry been doing actually? Do you know what I mean? But I don't pay attention because obviously I'm in the women's world, isn't it? But I haven't looked at it like, wow, what are the men doing? What have the men been doing? What what is what have they been doing for each other? Do they support each other? Do they have you know time? Do they have groups that do you know what I'm saying? Um, and we definitely just need more of that. I mean, that's not I don't know, I don't think that's something we can change as women, women per se, but we definitely need to create create spaces for men to feel like they are welcome, like they, you know, they can be there. Um but like you said, women are definitely more nurturing, um, and they're just up for doing things, whereas men, it's not as simple for them. Um, but they can thrive so many in through so many areas in the church where we do need men, you know, God created us both differently um for a reason. And men are needed in the church, um, minus the fact of like talking about marriage, etc. Men are needed in a church in general, that balance is needed in the church building. Um, so I feel like for all men that feel like they're not wanted or needed, like please rest assured that you are needed in that space. Um, because I was even looking at like if there was a way, for example, that I could have started a mentoring with men to the other young men in church, I would have loved that because I feel like there's so many um boys out there, teenage boys, young boys who are in need of a mentor, uh, it would have been nice to find one within the church.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

We used to have that back in the day.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

Oh, see? That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

The the older generation used to mentor the younger generation, and like even with um some of the older dads, like if like a parent was single, like a single mum and they had a son, they used to team up with them, call on them, check in with them, like be a dad in Christ. Um it was really nice, but again, with people moving out of London, things just changing, things just break down. But it's I know like they've got like different like men's prayer group, but I think yes, prayer is important, but I think there needs because men go through a lot of mental health. Um men are seen, but they're not heard. Yeah, definitely, and I think that's one of one of the things that is difficult. Um that a lot of men are dealing with mental health and they're suffering in silence, and there's nobody there. And you'll think they'll come to church to go to a hospital, but then there's nobody that they can relate to there, or there's not men, or you know, they just want to come in because they wanted to pray, but you know, they're just I don't know, because it's like the only time I see like men in church do something like now, they're either like an elder or a deacon, um, or packing the chairs or putting the chairs away, but I don't see anything that brings men together where I know like back in the day growing up, I remember they used to um that um our church used to have like a gym. Can't

Brotherhood Mentoring And Real Community

SPEAKER_00 15:35

remember sometime during the week that they used to like all the men used to come and do gym and like talk, and they used to do a lot. They knew that some people couldn't afford a gym membership, so the men's ministry put money aside and they got gym equipment, and yeah, they used to do a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

I love that, and then I think once a month they either used to go dinner or do an activity, and the brotherhood was strong.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

Yeah, that's what's needed, like you said, that the devil knows, isn't it? He knows that men are needed um to lead and guide, and um because they're he's purposely, you know, orchestra orchestrated if I'm saying the word right, um a way to you know push men out, get them away, you know, just creating a space, and it's like if you're gonna have a female-dominated space, men will feel to feel intimidated to want to come into that space, you know.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

I know I'm

When Women Lead And Men Leave

SPEAKER_00 16:34

gonna be political here because I have an issue with women leading, but that's that's for another that's a story for another day. But the Bible talks about men are called to lead, right? And if women are forever challenging this, and because they want to be seen and they want to be heard, we're also helping Satan to push them out of the church.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Because we want to fight for women's rights, women's rights, women's rights, rights, and then we get where we get there, and that you know, we live in a we the world that we live in today is very like feminist, and women should be pastors, women should be this, women should be that, we don't need men, and then it's like okay, the men's like, okay, you don't need us, you don't need us in the church, you don't need us to do anything, and then all of a sudden now you want to get married, now you want to do this, now you now you remember us, and I think that's something that we need to look into. Um, and I'm not saying that women shouldn't have a voice, it's not that, but it's also us as women also need to respect men, yeah, which um which just the which is the worldly way of like feeling disrespected and and all this stuff that we bring it into the church without us realizing that's do you that's so true.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

I think you started going into my second part of the two-part question. Um,

Simple Ways To Bring Men Back

SPEAKER_01 18:15

what do you think we can do to get more men into the church? Because, like you said, we're not helping, obviously, with what we're doing, so we're not helping men to actually feel you know that there's a space there for them. What is it that we could do, maybe?

SPEAKER_00 18:35

I think ask them what they want and not and listen and not shut it down, not compare, like, oh, we don't have that, so why should you? Um, because I think that's another thing that women do. It's kind of like if if men come up with these ideas, we'll be like, oh, we don't have that. Oh, I can't, how come that they're getting the budget for that? It's like, look how many stuff women do have. Do you know what I mean? Whether it's in church or outside of church. Um, but for it to to grow, it or for it to even start to plant the seed so it can start getting roots, is to ask men, what do you need? How can us as women support you so that you can lead? Because we're in the last days, we need men. Right, we need their leadership. Women are we we are emotional beings, you know. So I think that's one of the things like the men that are in the church, ask them, then reach out to other men who have left the church for whatever reason, that they may like start a group or meet up. It doesn't have to just be about God, God, God, God, God. As I said, mental health is real, and for whatever they're going through, maybe they feel like God doesn't understand them and throwing God down their throat is gonna just push them further away, but showing acts of kindness and actually being there, we're already representing ya.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Right. I love that. So well said. It's funny you spoke about the men's mental men and their mental health because um that Christian radio station that we listened to, they actually recognized um men's, I think it was a men's mental health day, and they recognized it, and I found it really powerful. And I love the thing that the things that the guy was saying about you know, men not wanting to open up, and I think he had someone come on and had a discussion about you know, why is it that men struggle to open up and they started talking about you know childhood and being told you need to be a man and all these type of things, like these things you know are not being spoken about enough. I love that as a Christian organization they were talking about those things, and um, for me, as a woman listening in, I was like, oh, this is really interesting. Um, I enjoyed listening to it and getting that insight from that angle um as well. Because either way, we all have brothers or our dads or whatever, and it's nice to kind of get a different insight or angle of like, oh, why are they like this? Why are they, you know, being like this? Um, because men might seem like they're a lot to understand at times, but so are we as women, you know, we're quite complicated beings, and um it's just important for us to just to create a space for them to just come in and just feel like you know what I can I am free to express in this space, even not necessarily to us, but with other men within that space. Um, and this is why I'm even struggling with the idea of trying to try to plan like an event at church, um, and I need men to. Attend the event, and I'm just like, I don't know where men are gonna come from because there's not even enough men within the church already. Um, and it's just like uh, you know, it's it's it's tough. I think about it all the time, and I see discussions are coming up about this um all over the place in Christian um platforms. Um and I think people are recognizing and trying to make a change with that for sure. Um it's just like you said, as us as women, we need to also not be giving into Satan's plan and be allowing that space to be there and open for men as well. Um, yeah, we we need to. I never thought about that. I just thought about okay, so what can we do? But what actually can we do? We can do a lot, we can allow them to have that space. Um, yeah, I think awareness needs to be brought to us as well. Like, I think we're just so caught up in that, in that land of like, like you said, being nuttras and doing everything that we're not actually thinking about actually. Do you know what? Let me stop overriding or trying to control everything and just leave that space open for maybe a man might want to pick that up and take take take you know charge of that. So, yeah, yeah, I love what you said. Um, yeah, I don't think I have anything else to add because it's harder to process, obviously, because we can't think of how men would think. I was just thinking, just from the angle of why there's so many women in the church, um, more, which I we've already touched on. Um, and yeah, we just definitely need to pray that our men come back home, those who've left, or those who are um would like to come into the environment, but feel a bit um kind of what's the word I'm looking for?

SPEAKER_00 24:07

I would even say burnt out because there are some some older heads that I and when I say older heads, I mean like they're older than me, like much more older than me. Um they still they are they stay at home, they still do the Sabbath, but they said church has become a burden to them.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Wow. Did they say why?

SPEAKER_00 24:29

Because they was just they was just being used for what they could do. It was never hi B, how are you? Um, just checking in. It was like, oh, you know, we need to, we need to paint, um, we need to clean. Can you do this? Can you do that? It wasn't um, because he used to play, one of the persons that I know, he used to play the piano. Um, and that's all he was called for. Piano, piano, piano. When he wanted a break, like there was there was nothing there that was like, oh no, you're but there was other people that could play the piano, but it was just like the women was like, No, we want you. And um, yeah, and the other person, it was the same. Um, he was a more attracting guy, so anything physical, that's when they called him, like that's when the women used to call him. So it wasn't even the men, it was just the women to call him, and they wouldn't check on him other than when they needed something.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

That is so sad. That's deep. That is deep.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

So they just started to stay at home.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Yeah, they were they withdrew, yeah. They withdrew, it makes sense. That is so sad. That is really sad that it has to be that. Um, because I have like there's someone at church that I see all the time that comes in, um, they don't even really go in the actual sanctuary, they kind of listen from outside, but they're very involved in um like helping with like serving, cooking, this, that. And I spoke to them because I was like, Do you not get tired of it? But like he said he actually enjoys serving, like he enjoys cooking, he enjoys helping, because like he knows that the women need help um in that area. He knows there's like he don't mind being the person that's lifting the heavy pots and you know those kind of things like that. And he really is such a like you know, um important part of the helping of like the running of the kitchen. Um, and you would not think, right? You would just think, I don't know if we're gonna be like this kind of gender person where it's like, oh you know, for the women, blah blah blah. But um he is really, he really does like help every single uh majority um of the weeks he is there helping out and supporting, um, which is really nice. Um, because I just I I just thought, wow, I have to ask this question. But it I'm definitely gonna start being nosy and start asking more questions to men in church, who are still there. Um, you know, what makes you still come and all that kind of stuff? Because I still find it sad that even women who are in church who are married, you're not even seeing their husbands. Um, even the husbands are not coming and the wives are still coming, and it's just like I think that's one thing that's worried me about marriage. Like, I do I definitely don't want to be in a space where I feel like um my husband is not, may not want to come because he feels like the space is not for him. Um, and I feel like that's why I'm seeing a lot of people who are married, they're going to their um their spouse's church, even though this may be their church, because they have a space there. So they're supporting their spouse to go to that space. Um, and the women are choosing to move with them, you know, and you know, because like you said, the natural, we can do that. Um, and they're just gaining a new church family, which is okay, but it's supporting their spouse to, you know, for them to continue to thrive in a place that they're comfortable and and they have a place. Um, so I feel like it is definitely um important. I feel

Singles Events And Welcoming Spaces

SPEAKER_01 28:27

like we just I don't know, I would just love to see a space where you'll see more men and men are circulating. And um, I was speaking to someone actually last week and at church, and they were saying that they are actually men that do want to come into church, they are men that actually do want to turn their lives back to God or who do want to seek God. Um, because I was talking in regards to my event because I was saying I would like I definitely need me more men to be there. Um, and it's a singles event, guys, that I'm trying to plan um a singles mingle at church, and it's really I'm finding it a little bit challenging because it's the fact of I'm um it's easy, I'm gonna get women there by getting men there. I don't want it to be an event where it's like unbalanced, and you know, the person mentioned to me that there is men that want to come, and that's why I wanted to create the space to not feel like um a churchy thing, if that makes sense. Not saying God is gonna be in the mist, don't get that twisted, but I don't want people to come and feel like they have this pressure of church. I just want to come and just, you know, combat other others and be amongst others, you know, like-minded or just come into a space where it's safe and where God is present. Um, and they feel at peace and you know, they feel loved and they just feel appreciated, um, where you can feel comfortable um in a Christian environment to feel free to meet someone. That's literally what I'm trying to create. Um, because there isn't that space there um for single men and women, um, um Christian single men and women to meet someone of the opposite sex. It's it's very hard. And so I'm trying to see if I can create that space, but getting the attendees is is the tough part. Um, so yeah, um I've I've I've um I think I've expressed all my thoughts at this point. Then I've been talking for so long. Um but yeah, I really do pray that in this new season, in this new year, um a lot of men that do want to eternalize back to God can really find a space, um, a church family and congregation that they can feel at home and feel at peace and feel welcomed.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

Amen.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Um, because I'm not even saying this just based on like seeking a spouse, but just in general, it would just be really refreshing as well. It would it would add such a difference to the space. Um, and I would just love to see that. I'd love to see more men on the platform praying and you know, doing more, you know? It's just us all the time. Um, yeah, it's just a different dynamic to the church, a different dynamic to our young people and what they're seeing as well. It's men, you're you're really needed. Like, you don't understand. You're so, so needed. Um, but yeah, that's my last thoughts. Um anything else, Izzy, you want to add?

SPEAKER_00 31:37

No,

Prayer For Men And Closing

SPEAKER_00 31:39

I would just like to pray for them.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

Okay, do you want to pray? Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you for waking us up this morning. Thank you for allowing us to be present and thank you for our listeners on our podcast. Lord, right now we lift up your men. The ones that you created first, you created Adam in your image, Lord, and right now we're just lifting them up in prayer, wherever they are worldwide, be with them mentally, physically, spiritually, intellectually, Lord. Lord, Satan knows that his time is short. And as we could see that their presence is needed in the church spiritually first. There's so many men at home for whatever reason, Lord, and we're just praying that you may meet them where they are, be with them. Let the Holy Spirit let the Holy Spirit allow you to remember who you are, Lord. Guide them back into the building. Let them heal. Lord, I also pray that there'll be a community for men. That they can bond with one another, understand one another, Lord, that there'll be no judgment, let it be a safe space. As Shay and I is always saying about being able to have somebody that you can confide in, that you can trust because mental health is serious. And yeah, I pray that even if there is nobody there, I know within the UK we have a counselling line called Cornerstone, that is a Christian counseling line, that they may reach out and speak to somebody, take the first steps. Also pray, like when there's board meetings or there's any type of meetings, Lord, that the women will be humble and let the men speak. Let them lead. As as we read, most of the stories in the Bible of them were lead the poor men and they were leaders. Because even with Ruth, she still needed permission from the king. So Lord, I pray that you'll be able to help us, let help us to learn our positions. Even as Shay said, there's so many wives that are at home that their husbands are at home, sorry. While they're at church, Lord, I pray that you may help them and move them to go to church. I know sometimes the service can go on for long, and you know, women have more patience than men, but we pray that you may give them patience. We pray that you may give them zeal. We pray that you may heal them from church wounds, heal them from their childhood, heal them from whatever it may be, which is stopping them from coming into the building. And may they start a new chapter, whether that be in a new church, a new field, whatever it may be. Be with your your children, be with your men, help our the young sons that are coming up, the young teenagers that are coming up, that they may, like as Shay was saying, like they bring back mentoring within churches, that somebody that is listening to this, like the adults can be paired with the teens, like from boyshood to menhood. I know that we used to have that around my area, and I pray that there will be something like that in church. London, right now, there's so much crime, there's things, there's temptations, there's pressures, there's so much stuff, and we do need the men. Many, many people are single mothers, they're coming from a single parent family or a single fatherhood family, Lord. I just pray that that that mentoring will be a massive idea and that it can physician, Lord, and that people may keep up with it, Lord, and that they may give a real realistic time and scale. Be with the elders, Lord, that are men, be with the deacons that are men, be with the leaders that are men, whatever field that they're in, that that whatever men field that they're in, I pray that you may be with them. Help them, Lord, because there's so much pressure on men. You know, we're in a society now where you're either taught to be strong and don't cry, and then you've got other people that are saying, like, you know, it's okay to let your feelings down, and then you've got some women saying that they don't want a man that can cry because that resembles weakness. Like, it is hard to be a man, the same way as it's hard to be a woman, but Lord, I pray that you may be with them and heal them and watch over them, Lord. And Lord, you know, I have a headache, and if anything that I'm saying doesn't make sense, Lord, I pray that the Holy Spirit may petition it on my behalf and be with each and every one of your men and your sons around the world. This I pray in your name, amen.

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Amen and amen. Thank you guys so much for listening. I pray that we pray that this blesses someone, send it out to someone that you feel like it's in need of hearing this. Um, and I pray that you could this can spark discussions within your church or even outside of your church or wherever it may be, if you feel called by the Holy Spirit to start something, even though you're in church and you just want to invite some men to have a safe space, do so, do so because you are needed. Take care, and we'll see you in another episode.

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