Dr. Kathryn Benjamin Golden talks to Dr. Hyman about growing up in the Bay Area of California and her new book, This Insurgent Ground: Black Women, Marronage, and Rebellion in the Great Dismal Swamp. She also shares a random nature moment that involves MEGAFAUNA!

BY THE WAY-- In the middle there is a brief moment of quiet due to a tech hiccup but we pick right back up.

Get Kathryn's book here:

https://uncpress.org/9781469697970/this-insurgent-ground/