Reclaiming Your Hue: A Podcast for Women Rediscovering Themselves in Motherhood & Entrepreneurship

Ep. 74 with Jessica Swenson | Founder, SALT

• Kelly Kirk • Season 1 • Episode 74

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Salt, Strength, And Starting Again

What happens when a busy mom with a full-time corporate job decides to fuse her faith with fitness and build real community around it? Kelly sits down with Jess, the founder of SALT, a prayer-led movement brand inspired by Luke 14:34 and launched on her fortieth birthday. The conversation charts the surprising chain of connections that brought this vision to life, the decision to prioritize family time without abandoning professional excellence, and the practical tools that make it all workable—think time blocking, a weekly posting cadence, and events that blend scripture, sweat, and shared purpose.

We talk about the moment motherhood outran the corporate ladder, and how COVID quietly reshaped priorities. Jess shares why SALT hosts classes in churches and in neutral spaces to unite believers across denominations, and how collaborations with local schools, instructors, and community leaders helped the brand grow organically. The tactics are simple and replicable: a clear social rhythm (Never Miss a Monday, Truth-Filled Tuesday, Salty Wednesday), intentional digital detox on Sundays, and a willingness to keep events accessible so newcomers feel welcome. She also opens up about the discomfort of speaking faith out loud after a more private upbringing, and how that stretch became the source of new courage.

You’ll leave with ideas you can act on today: how to create boundaries without guilt, involve your kids in your mission, use AI to save time without losing your voice, and build community that actually sustains your goals. If you’ve ever wondered how to honor your body, deepen your faith, and still meet your responsibilities, this conversation offers a grounded, hopeful path forward.

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Thanks for listening & cheers to Reclaiming Your Hue!

SPEAKER_03:

Welcome everybody to Reclaiming Your Hue, where we are dedicated to empowering women to embrace and amplify their inherent brilliance. Our mission is to inspire mothers and entrepreneurs to unlock their full potential and radiate their true selves. I'm your host, Kelly Kirk, and each week my goal is to bring to you glorious guests as well as solo episodes. So let's dive in. Good morning, Jess.

SPEAKER_00:

Good morning.

SPEAKER_03:

How are you? I'm good.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm a little nervous, but excited.

SPEAKER_03:

Let me put you at ease. We've got the calming lavender scent of a candle over here. It's beautiful. I love it. All right. I am thrilled to have you here. I um have to say, first and foremost, so appreciative of who connected us. Same. And so I would love for you to share. This is how we kick everything off for this podcast is how it is that we got connected. So would you share that with the listeners?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, of course. So we got connected through Monica Staley. She was a mom at my kids' school. So our kids became friends through their class. And, you know, she was doing something similar that I was doing. And she was uh featured on the OLG newsletter, which I rarely open. Happened to open it, uh, saw her, was able to connect with her through the event, and then she brought me to you.

SPEAKER_03:

So incredible. And Monica and I, I know that we spoke about this when we grabbed coffee, and I was so appreciative of her connection and us having our sit-down conversation as well. Monica and I go way back, even before she had kids, before I had kids, and our like connection point at that point was through BI, which is a networking group. And it was through her um network marketing company, Isogenics. Yeah. That's amazing. My how the tides have changed still in all of that. But then, you know, I think our paths crossed again when I saw that she had wrote a book, and I was so inspired by the foundation of that book. Agreed. And then the fact that she even like wrote a book. I'm like, that's really impressive. Like, let's get together. I would love to hear more about this. Also, I'm starting a podcast. Do you want to be on it? She was like, wow, I wasn't anticipating that, but yes, of course, I would love that. So it's interesting to just see how this connection here ties to this connection here. Yeah. And what's really cool, and I'd love for you to share here in just a moment what the name of your business is because there we have another mutual connection too with Erica Dvorak. Yes. And you guys have some fun things coming down the pipe here with collaborations. So let's start off with sharing with the listeners what it is that you have um going for yourself in business.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. So I recently launched a brand called Salt. Um, it was launched in March of this year on my 40th birthday. Woo! 40 club. I mean 30. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to age myself here, but a milestone birthday for sure. And in the beginning of the year, I was longing to just do more purposeful work. And God led me to bring faith and fitness together and build community around that. Um, in the beginning of the year, I was feeling a little bit lost and just continued to pray for him to guide me and ask him, you know, what did he bring me to this earth to do? And it was aligning my passions with faith, fitness, and community. Um, and the brand was inspired by a Bible verse, Luke chapter 14, 34. And it just talks about um if we lose our saltiness, how can we be made salty again? And just talking about how salt preserves the goodness in food, and we are called on this earth to preserve God's goodness. And so that just that verse just spoke to me in the next 48 hours. I just started developing the brand, not really sure where it was gonna lead me. Yeah, but since it's led me to pop-up faith and fitness events, it's so cool.

SPEAKER_03:

And it's what I love about it too is I'm with you in regards to like this the idea of moving your body and how you incorporate the good word into movement as well. It's pretty, it's pretty amazing. So we're gonna take a step back in time though. We're gonna we're gonna build the listeners up to this point that we're talking about right now. Um, because there's other parts to the story that lead to what you're talking about right now. Definitely. So you probably already like the listeners are probably reading between between the lines, but can you just share and sort of definitively state that, you know, what came first for you? Was it motherhood or was it entrepreneurship? It was definitely motherhood.

SPEAKER_00:

I never expected to be doing this. Yeah. Um, so I have three kids, seven, six, and three. And I still, which is probably unique to a lot of the guests that you've had on here, I still have a full-time job in the corporate setting. It's not actually.

SPEAKER_03:

There are, um, I mean, I've had such a wide range of individuals who have been on the podcast, and I sort of pride myself in this, in having ever any what anyone from call it zero startup to 10, 15, 20 plus years in business, or even retired for that matter. So it's like really everything across the board because no matter where you're at in the entrepreneurial journey, you can relate to this beginning of it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Well, that's amazing. And I love that other people are doing this as well. Yeah. Um, because I started out, you know, at motherhood wanting to climb that corporate ladder. This is with like my first child still living that life. Um and with my second child, that was at the beginning of COVID. I mean, it was 2019, so it was right before. Yeah. But when COVID hit, that was when that was a turning point for me.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Tell me more about that. I just wanted more. I I, you know, while it was a really hard time to go through, I saw it as a blessing for our family. We really just changed our ways. Uh, we spent more time together. Yes, it was stressful at times trying to juggle work and taking care of the kids. Um I'm sure you can relate. 100%. Um, but it, you know, we started cooking together and having meals together, and we are just spending way more time with the kids, and it just makes you realize how much time away from them you spend when you're working, you know, eight to five and then picking the kids up at 5 30. I mean, thinking back, that I I want nothing to do with that life. Yeah. So we made a shift. I mean, I'm still working full-time, but I'm not going into the office like I used to. I go in once a week, and it just made me re-prioritize what is important. And I had no interest in climbing the corporate ladder anymore. It's I'm so thankful to have a full-time job that provides for my family. However, the industry that I've been in for the past decade is just it's just not fulfilling for me. Sure. Even just saying the name, the pharmacy benefit management industry is like, all right.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, not the most exciting thing. Yeah, well, and it's there's a lot of controversy too that's happening in the health care, healthcare system, the pharmaceutical avenue as well. And so I'm sure that you you feel some of that impact off off air. You were sharing with me that you're an empathetic person and you carry some of that stuff. And so I'm sure it's tough, which you know, you speak to exactly that shift that happens for so many women who have been on the podcast. It's I don't either I'm not aligned anymore with the mission and the vision of the career path that I'm with, or it's the company that I'm that I I once felt so aligned with, but maybe there's been some changes in leadership or you know, even top above the leadership that's kind of trickled down. There's there's always something. Yeah. There's just always something. And God bless the the corporate environments because uh for the most part, they're all just they're all really trying to do it the best way that they know how to within the constraints that they have. Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

So and that alignment is what I was missing too. It's just, and it was a it's a very large company. You don't have that connection with you know that you had going into the office. You had your work friends and happy hours and all that, and that just like was gone after COVID. Yeah. And I mean, I miss it, but I also enjoy the the family time, and that's what's important to me now.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. So what I want to dive into is the idea of what harmonization looks like for you in this particular season of having the the the quote unquote nine to five, right? And then also diving into entrepreneurship as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

And and what the the um the trade-offs are potentially, the the tipping of the scales, um, what talk us as the listeners and myself through what that has looked like for you so far.

SPEAKER_00:

So it's been tricky. Um, I will say one of the most important things I do is block my calendar. Um, and I, you know, I don't have set hours for either thing for salt or for my corporate job. I just, you know, try to fill in the gaps, but I prioritize what's important and family's important. So God has called me to this space, but it's also I know He doesn't want me to overextend and not be present in our home.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Is this innately a trait that you've sort of taken from being in that corporate setting or even like past that? Is it always something that you you've carried through? Is no?

SPEAKER_00:

I have not been good about this, but I've been praying and asking God for help in this area because it's it is so important, and my kids are everything to me, and I need to be the best mom that I can at home, and that's that is my number one ultimately. So, yes, it's not easy. I do the best that I can, and I'm not perfect, but I am so intentional with my time. So, calendar blocks with salt, I do weekly post, you know, so I'm not like posting every day, like I don't want to overextend myself in that area. Um I've developed some consistency with what I'm sharing on salt, and so that makes things a little bit easier and not trying to like create something new every time. So just small little um changes have been impactful with trying to juggle it all.

SPEAKER_03:

It's interesting. I I think of the word like being disciplined, like there's a lot of discipline in how you are moving through and forward with how you're approaching entrepreneurship, which is amazing, right? And a lot of entrepreneurs understand and sometimes have to hit really bumpy roads and in order to understand, like, okay, let's go backwards, take a look at how the calendar has looked. Is my calendar guiding me? Or am I being like, have I had the discipline to go, nope, this is what's in my calendar. I'm sticking to it. And because this phone call is coming in, doesn't mean I have to answer it right now, depending on the circumstance, right? Yeah, depending on the circumstance. But if I've time blocked that this is my my dedicated devoted time to salt, or this is my dedicated devoted time to what you do from your for your nine to five, that's how it is. And I I do think and can speak to it personally too, like that wasn't always the case for me. I could be really much better at like doing the discipline of time block, but when I do the time block, it's interesting the magic that happens.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly. It's so impactful. And I used to, I mean, I used to make myself available at all all hours for my corporate job. I mean, I was always online, I had a cell phone, always connected, and it's just establishing those boundaries are so important, but you have to do it in advance. So, like, yeah, prepare for the week that way.

SPEAKER_03:

When did you feel like that shift happened for you? Was it was it before having kids or was it after having kids?

SPEAKER_00:

I would say after and probably with my third child. I think my third child changed me the most.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, tell me more about that. And can you just share with the listeners how old your kiddos are?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. So my oldest is seven, and then I have a six-year-old, they're 16 months apart, and then I have a three-year-old. And so with the first kid, I was kind of trying to maintain my previous lifestyle, you know, going out, even taking him with us, which is like, I don't know. Yeah, I just shake my head at that now.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Second kid tried to do that same thing, but I was just way overextending myself, and I was kind of realizing it, but not being like really good about changing anything. Sure. And then the third kid just completely changed me. Even with like, I would clean up after like the kids, you know, played. Yeah. And then the room would be messy again like half an hour later. Now I just wait till the end of the day. It's like live stress.

unknown:

I can't.

SPEAKER_00:

I have three kids to clean up after. This is too much.

SPEAKER_03:

I literally could learn so much from you because I've got three kids that are running around this house now, like legitimately running around this house. And I still catch myself doing this where I'm cleaning up after Maddie has like made the room her room. Like, it's not our room, it's her room that is not even her room, it's the living room. And I'm like, oh my gosh, but that's that's a good practice.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Small things like that that have changed with my third, and it's like, why take this on? You know, it's just adding more time away from the kids and adding more stress, like, just wait till the end of the day, everything's gonna be fine.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, okay. So um, your kiddos, three kiddos running all over the place. And um, are there other examples that you wanted to speak to for how your third changed you? Cause it sounds like it was a pretty impactful like shift.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I I mean she brought me closer to God too, and I in I I don't know how, but she was the one of the reasons. Um and I think it's you know, I met Monica through our school. I met a lot of other faith-based moms through our school from different uh faith backgrounds and have done Bible studies with them, and just like I think, you know, connecting with other moms through our three children have been impactful in my faith life as well.

SPEAKER_03:

I couldn't agree more, yeah, by the way. It was it, I mean, it wasn't for me, my my circumstance is a little bit different. I've got three, but I have one biological, right? And it it's when when that happened is when that shift for leaning more into faith just it it it like changed completely. Like it was changing even when I was pregnant. There was just something that was stirring inside of me that was like I was being called to lean more into my faith and not be shy about leaning into my faith. It's taken time. Yeah, it has, and we were speaking to this even you know off air before hitting record. It's just like with the events of the world, it's like we we have two choices. We could lean further away from our faith because uh standing in that means that we we potentially see an outcome that's not great, or we go, this is this is who I am, right? And so I think that nothing like having children to kind of help spark that in you and just understand that there's there's truly something deeper, there's a deeper meaning to life. Yeah, how could we not think that there's one maker that's sort of in charge of all of that at the helm?

SPEAKER_00:

And recently I've become more vocal about it too. I mean, obviously through salt. Um, but I was very private in my faith life because I had the Catholic upbringing, and that's kind of how majority of Catholics are. I mean, we don't do uncomfortable things like this, like pray out loud in front of people or help others grow in their faith um vocally. I feel like it's a very private thing in the Catholic faith. And so I wanted I saw more people in my community doing this, and it's helped me grow in my faith, and I want to help others as well.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I love it. I love it so much. I so something that I am really curious about is you are really in like the the throes of startup for your business, yes, while also harmonizing that in a different way with your corporate position as well. What are some of the challenges that you have encountered thus far being so early in the early stages of entrepreneurship?

SPEAKER_00:

So there's been a lot of unforeseen things. I mean, most of it's been positive, but there's I mean, there's just so many growing and learning experiences through it all. I've been in marketing for over 18 years, but I've worked in marketing in a corporate setting in healthcare. So there's a lot that I haven't done. And to start my own thing, I mean, I've never worked on social media, you know, branding and creative, and it's helped me grow in so many um different facets and marketing, but also um I'm a very passionate person. So as I was talking about before, how I know God doesn't want me to overextend myself in this space, it's really hard for me because I see there's so much opportunity at all the churches that I could, you know, call upon or gyms. And it's hard for me to like take that back and um limit it to a certain number I'm targeting quarterly just to keep it manageable. But I'm hoping further down the road I'm able to solely focus on this.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You literally like that was one of my questions. It wasn't gonna be my next one, but let's go here. Let's talk about it if you're if you're open to doing that. Yeah, which you know, like let's talk through what would need to be true for you to cut the cord.

SPEAKER_00:

So one thing that I haven't brought up is my husband launched his own company end of last year. Oh, which also inspired me.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, I love this. Okay, keep going.

SPEAKER_00:

So, you know, for this past year I've been the sole provider as he fuels, you know, the money in his business and into his business. And once we are at a more stable uh spot financially, and it is part of our plans for me to peel back. Okay. Um, hopefully in the nearest term, like within the next three years. Um, and then I can focus on salt as much or as little as I want to, but I again I'm a passionate person, so I feel like I have big dreams for salt.

SPEAKER_03:

I just I love the mission of it, Jess. And I love the like the whole what backs it, right? Biblically speaking, I just love it. Um, and you are about to enter into such a fun season of life. It's challenging, I'll tell you, speaking from being in not only business with my husband, who's also an entrepreneur, but but literally when you cut the cord, you are leaning into your faith so much more and trusting God's process for you. And it is both exhilarating and terrifying all in one fell swoop. But in the end, and I I'm sure you have some semblance of understanding of this, like God will provide, yeah, no matter what. So and that is such a He doesn't want you to be stupid either, yeah. Like, don't quit the nine to five when that's the primary, quite yet.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly. I and that has been the whole theme of like trusting God since uh my husband Ben started his own company. We both have trusted God with this whole process, and yes, it's scary just taking in one paycheck when we have three young kids, like, but we you know trusted God and He has provided. Yes, we went through stressful times, but it was manageable. So um we feel very grateful.

SPEAKER_03:

Remind me what it is that your husband we're just gonna highlight this for a brief second and then come back to everything with Jess. Yeah, but I am curious what it is that he is doing with his business.

SPEAKER_00:

So he they manufacture balconies for multifamily complexes across the US.

SPEAKER_03:

That's right. Thank you. I needed the friendly reminder, and it's funny because I remember when we spoke to this, I knew exactly what you were talking about. What and you were like, not a lot of people understand the concept of what this looks like.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, he's been in just like niche industries. Yeah. I mean, he came from the elevator industry, which is just I didn't know anybody that worked in that industry.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, that's niche. And that I I came from property management. Like I I had a a time period when I was in the sales and marketing side of property management, and you know, the the uh property manager was dealing left and right with the elevator people, the elevator vendor. So yeah, I mean it's it's interesting to have some of those ties, but all right, harmonizing happens in so many different ways, and I would love to hear a little bit more, actually a lot a bit more, about what this has looked like having three young children under 10 running around, toting around, and and then starting a business too. And what are what are some of the insights and like peaks and valleys that you can share with the listeners that could be super insightful for them?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think bringing the kids into the process as much as you can is so uh impactful and fulfilling. Um, that's been one of the highlights for me. Um just to show them that they can, you know, they can do whatever they want, really. Um and you know, just showing them that faith is very important and providing that foundation for them, um, helping them want to learn about their faith and grow in their faith as well, and we're doing it together as a family. Um so yeah, I think bringing the kids into it as much as you can, but then also again, I'm a passionate person, so I will once I like dive into the salt stuff, I can spend hours um just you know, like diving into the Bible, creating my salty Wednesday post. Like, I can spend a lot of time and I want to make sure that I'm not taking away from the kids' time during that process. So I bring them into it as much as possible. And I say if I would say if you're starting your own business and you can bring your kids into it, do that. Yeah. Can you give examples of how you were doing that? Yeah, so my uh son, he when I first launched, he wanted to design salt football gloves. So for him and his friends. Yeah. So he like wrote down all the things, like all the salt gear that he wants to create. I have yet to create it, but it is on my list. Um, and then hopefully we'll do some sort of kid pop-up event as well. That's incredible.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, so I would love to know. Maybe you've thought through this. Maybe I'm putting you on the spot right now. Have you thought about like what that could look like for the kids? A little bit.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, so what really pops in my mind instantly is a 5k. Mmm. Okay. So I used to be a runner. I mean, I wasn't very good, but that was my passion at the time.

SPEAKER_03:

The fact that you were even doing it, like, I I give so much like applause to individuals like Monica's in this category right now. She is she is running her little heart out right now for a half marathon. And I'm like, why? But also, I'm really proud of you because you've got to probably have some really strong knees and really good mental mindset to be able to step into that and step out of it and then step back into it. That's incredible.

SPEAKER_00:

There is nothing better than a runner's high. Like, after you run, that feeling you can't really, I can't.

SPEAKER_03:

No, it's I really can't. Like, I think every single time I've ever done a 5k, I've been like, thank god that's done. Yeah. So I might be the anomaly. I mean, it's like a lot of people like the outlier, like in that mean, medium, and rush. Like, I'm the outlier. I am. I'm totally throwing it all off.

SPEAKER_00:

But hey, it could be a 5k walk too. And that's probably what it would be with kids. Um, I'm on board. I'm on board for it. That would be so fun. So that's bring the kids along. Maybe 2026. We'll see. But it's so incredible.

SPEAKER_03:

All right. So, can you give insight to uh what salt movement looks like? What are some of the pop-ups um that you do? How are you um promoting it? Like, let's talk about some of the the nitty-gritty of the business side of this for you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so when I launched SALT, I was in a book club at my kids' school with I think there was like six other moms, and one of the ladies who led it was um on the marketing team at the school, and she said that she was looking to do like a fitness or a yoga event at the school, and it was it was right when I launched our assault, and I had no idea what I was gonna do with it. And I mean, we had our first event. There were, I think, 16 moms that attended. It was like the same day as the gala, and there was a lot of things going on at the time, but it was a good turnout, and uh, we did like a hybrid yoga strength class. Um, and I was connected to the fitness instructor through my old roommate, and so you know, the moms at the school connected with her very well, and she's gonna lead. Quarterly events at the school now. That's incredible. So that's what that looks like at the school. But then, you know, connecting with Monica, she led our first yoga event in Excelsior. Yeah. And that was amazing. Truly an amazing experience that was impactful to those that attended as well as those that were just in the area. Yeah. Um, so that was amazing. We've had a serving event at Feed My Starving Children. Okay. So, like moving our bodies and serving together. That was um a special event as well. We did a walk at the Mombus 5K, which is where I connected with Erica.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh. Yeah, nice. Is that the event that's hosted at Hutton House? Yes. Okay. Somebody else was telling me about this, and I was just like, okay, this is like a no-brainer that I need to be at that. You do. When the next one happens, like, I've got to be there.

SPEAKER_00:

I believe it's it's in May, early May, usually, and I highly recommend, which is why I promoted it as a salt event as well. Um, we all wore salt t-shirts and walked together and start opened in prayer. Um, and I had learned about Erica through your podcast.

SPEAKER_03:

Really?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, because Monica had sent me your podcast, and then I saw that she was exhibiting. And so we connected, and then now we're collaborating on the next event into this month.

SPEAKER_03:

And you can, I was just gonna say you can speak to it by the time the episode drops. That event will have already happened, unfortunately. But can you share a little bit about what that's gonna look like too, just so our listeners can understand what they're missing out on?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Um, we were fortunate to stumble upon a unique venue of room and board in Edyna. And I love it too.

SPEAKER_03:

I was like, wow, that's gonna be incredible. I'm really working my darndest to get there, by the way.

SPEAKER_00:

I would love to have you. I hope you can make it.

SPEAKER_03:

And wear my salt hat.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, it looks great on you. Thank you. Um, but yeah, so we're just gonna partner. Katie's gonna lead the one fitness instructor that has led the events at my kids' school. She's gonna lead the event. She's awesome. Um, and it's a 45-minute strength class, body weight. It will be we'll open, I'm gonna lead the prayer, which I am new to. So I did it for the walk, but it was a smaller group. This will be a larger group, and we'll anchor the workout around a Bible verse, Romans 12, 2. And then the fitness event will be to Christian music, and then we'll have community time after the workout in that beautiful setting. I mean, you might have just sold me.

SPEAKER_03:

You have to you might have just sold me also. So um I've steered away from it a little bit. And I know that when we connected over coffee, um, I had shared with you that uh I do a lot of my like strength training workouts to Lindsay Baumgren's Nourish Move Love, like some of the workouts that she does. And so Tuesdays are typically the day, typically, typically, um, that I will do my strength training. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I like to walk and I am um gearing up to purchase a weighted vest. Gonna join that club here soon. But Tuesdays and Thursdays are usually the day that I do strength training. And I'm like, how incredible would it be? Because the event is on a Tuesday, yes. Right? So I'm like, maybe I just like hold off having my like early morning workout and just do this as my workout, and I can get some work done early in the morning before I come to the event so that I can just, you know, it's just a swap.

SPEAKER_00:

I think that sounds like a great plan.

SPEAKER_03:

It'll be purposeful open and it will, it will, and it's right here anytime. Exactly. I don't really have an excuse. I think you've already decided. I think I have, yeah. Now I just need to pot commit to it. So okay. I would um I'd love to for you to share, unless there was anything else that you you wanted to expand on with like some of the events that you do.

SPEAKER_00:

I think that pretty much covered it. Again, we're I'm just seeing where God leads me, and I I do have some different types of events on the horizon that I'm thinking about. So yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_03:

That's right. Okay, so share with the listeners what exactly is your role with SALT. I mean, obviously, founder owner, yeah. That's obvious, but above and beyond that, how is it that you're kind of moving this mission forward?

SPEAKER_00:

So right now I'm providing just a platform for fitness instructors who want to incorporate ministry into their practice, as well as um providing a platform for somebody who maybe wants to open in prayer and be uncomfortable and grow in that space as well. Yeah. So just, you know, connecting with churches to do kind of the legwork for them to make this event happen. I will say I have an upcoming event in February, and I think God is calling me to lead that fitness event. So that's gonna be another stretching moment for me, but I'm I'm here for it. Well, let's be really frank.

SPEAKER_03:

You're already stretching yourself. Um, and I think that the listeners are probably giggling because they're like, wait a second, you just started this business this year, 2025. And when your episode drops, it'll still be 2025. So um, but like the fact that this is still all so relatively new, and you're already doing all that you're doing, which is absolutely incredible, and then have pronounced on a podcast platform that ideally within the next three years you'd like to cut the cord. Like you're doing a lot, girlfriend. So pat yourself on the back and also allow Grace to weave in there as well. But that's incredible too, that you're you're going, okay, so I've I'm providing this platform for other fitness instructors. This is what the mission is behind this. But now you're going, I think I might want to do this myself too. Exactly. So on the instructor side, because that's something that you're not all too familiar with. So can you speak to what only if you feel comfortable?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

What that might look like?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm still figuring that out. I mean, I do strength training three to four times a week, and that's my passion now. It's turn from running to strength training. I do still love running, but the motivation isn't there as much.

SPEAKER_03:

I can't. I can't, but I do love like I know that you mentioned that your strategy around like the marketing and promotion for Salt is like posting once a week, but you do a pretty darn good job of like incorporating uh maybe daily like what you're posting on your stories, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and that's just really sharing other people's content, but I think that's still important, and I have themes for each day on the stories, which helps guide me and spend less time just kind of recreating the wheel every time. Yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03:

Can you okay? I know that I asked you this question over here, but I think that this is kind of a cool strategy that you're speaking to in regards to approaching marketing via social media, right? Most people, most women are utilizing these platforms to market their business, but I've never, I don't think I've ever heard of this sort of structure with like every single day you have a specific theme to which you focus on for posting. So can you talk a little bit more about that?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm curious. Yeah. So on Mondays, I have never miss a Monday. I think Monday is so important to set your week right. Yeah. And I feel like that day I get a lot of feedback on that day the most.

SPEAKER_03:

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And so then I'm like, well, I gotta fill in the gaps here. Like, let's do something for every day. So then Tuesday's truth-filled Tuesday. So then I usually share a Bible post. Uh, Wednesday is salty Wednesday, so then I'm actually posting, not on my stories. It's an actual post. And it's a Bible verse with a faith and fitness challenge to help stretch you a little bit. And then Thursdays are uh Thankful Thursdays, and just posting something that I'm grateful for or something about gratitude and how it shifts your perspective. Um Fridays are uh Fuel Your Health Friday. So I just am passionate about wellness all around. So I wanted to also incorporate, you know, healthy recipes or you know, some whole I'm more holistic, so I like hom holistic remedies. Yeah. Um, that sort of thing. And then like Saturday, I believe, is slowdown Saturday. So something not like just spending incorporating kids into your movement and that sort of thing. And then Sundays I just don't post at all because I want you to to give you a reason not to scroll anymore, you know? Like we're yeah, you can be on Instagram for a long time.

SPEAKER_03:

It's so true. Interestingly enough, I have taken the approach um in social media that Sundays are my off day. Like I do not go on social media, um, and uh it's purposeful. And you know, maybe subconsciously it's a way for me to go into the week as like a reset because I know the like the mental toll that it takes, um, even just like you know, popping on there and posting and like the energy exertion of just the act of like, okay, this is something that I've committed to. I'm gonna do this in order to promote um all the things that I'm doing with my business, but I but I also need to just let the brain take a break. Exactly. I forget where I'm gonna notably mention Deidro Wigman. I think that we had spoken about that um through like a mastermind group, and it was she was like, I've just decided that that's something that my brain needs. Like, I need to just mentally take a break from logging in to the social media. And um I'm like, I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna challenge myself, and I've just continued to do it. Like Sundays are our days that we go to church and I reset in the house for the rest of the week, and so it's like, well, why wouldn't I just allow this to be the day that is like quiet?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I love that. I I need to work on that myself. I will say part of the reason why I created salt is I was like mindlessly scrolling Instagram, and it's so much time wasted. And I I probably spend as much time on there, but I'm spending time creating and growing in my faith and consuming that sort of thing instead of just mindless scrolling. But doom scrolling, yeah. I do love like no tech Sunday. I mean, I have a long way to go, but that's no tech, like no tech.

SPEAKER_03:

No tech. Yeah, ah, yeah. Interesting.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean, it's a far-reaching goal, but it's have have you ever heard of the Hallow app?

SPEAKER_03:

Did we talk about this?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, I don't think we talked about it, but I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03:

So um I'm a big fan of the Halo app. Um, that's H-A-L-L-O-W for all the listeners. Halo app. I'll make sure to drop that as a resource too. But I I truly love the platform itself because it's got, you know, you can listen to Christian music if you want, you can do uh like when enunciation, the tragedy at enunciation, like the founder started a prayer like thing on the Halo app for that.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's amazing, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

And so, um, and the same thing with Charlie Kirk too. So, I mean, it's pretty incredible how what they're doing through this. Um sometimes they have try to figure out the best way to put it, but like um it's also sort of like a learning platform too, like a tech learning platform. So there was somebody who owns a business and it's all around like digitally detoxing. And so, like, one way to digitally detox is to actually move away from a smartphone and get a flip phone. Oh my gosh, yeah. Like he talks about and like just like hey, this is how I've approached it, and he comes at it from the business aspect too. He's like, when I went away from this is actually when my business exploded. Wow, that's so interesting. Like his name, so I listened to that whole thing, and that was also almost at the same time too, I think it was earlier this year, right around the same time that Easter was approaching. Okay, and um, I was like, okay, here are some simple ways for me to effectively implement like detoxing from some of the stuff with my phone. And then I was like, okay, I'm gonna try this on Sundays, and it sort of stuck, it's sort of just stuck.

SPEAKER_00:

That's awesome. Good for you, anyways.

SPEAKER_03:

Digital digital detox through the Halo app kind of reminds me of what you're speaking to with like having no tech on Sundays. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna look into this.

SPEAKER_00:

Thanks for the recommendation.

SPEAKER_03:

You're welcome. Okay. Um, I still want to have a little bit better understanding of like what has motherhood, let's weave in motherhood and how um you have do you feel like there's more intentional focus being a mother, even though in the thick and the throes of starting a new business, which requires a lot of time and energy from you? Do you talk us through like what that has looked like for you? I know that you mentioned that you incorporate the kids and that's beneficial and helpful. Yeah. What else?

SPEAKER_00:

I think it just, you know, I think how I set the tone for the business has helped. Like I said, the weekly posts, I want to do more, but I'm keeping it at weekly. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't spend, I'm not spending like I'm spending as much or time as I want to on it, but I'm also like I said, every day being very intentional with prioritizing our family first. Um and then I also have a full-time job. So I have to um make sure I dedicate a lot of time to that as well.

SPEAKER_03:

So, in regards to your corporate position, do you feel like there's stuff that you've pulled from being in that setting that rolls into how you approach entrepreneurship? And then um is the company aware of what you're doing, or are you just like, I don't care?

SPEAKER_00:

So the company recently learned about what I'm doing through our, I think, so Erica is not on Instagram, but she is on LinkedIn and she shared an upcoming event. So then that led me to share my story. Um, I am thankful that my company sort of I wouldn't say applaud, but like encourages other people to pursue their passions. Um I do have a little bit more balance than maybe other companies, and I'm so grateful for that. I haven't seen a lot of like love or questions about it from my coworkers, but um, I do know that from a company level that the support is there. I have pulled from my corporate experience um just you know, my marketing background into what I'm doing for SALT. Um, even leveraging Chat GBT to help, you know, um minimize the time spent. I mean, that has ChatGBT has pros and cons, right? Yeah, for sure. As a time saver, it's been very helpful for me in my corporate job and also with SALT.

SPEAKER_03:

Fascinating. And so, you know, with Monica and then Deidra as well, like we're a part of a mastermind group together. I think I might have talked a little bit about this with you. Yeah. Yeah. Mastermind that I had started almost a year ago to the date. Um, but we have had these topics of conversation about uh how to approach Chat GPT. Um and there's a mix of individuals that are on this mastermind that come at it from a biblical standpoint, and then some that are like my faith is like I have a faith, but I don't know if it's necessarily from like a structured point, if that makes sense. I'm sort of trying to protect and preserve here a little bit for these people, but um what is your thought process for approaching Chat GPT from a Christian aspect?

SPEAKER_00:

I look at it as going back to what I stated before, God doesn't want me to like overextend myself in this space, and I see it as a resource to help me not do that. Um it's also led me to verses that I may not have initially thought about or sp like has spent a significant amount of time trying to think of the right verse. And then it leads me to the Bible to read more about it, and so it's helped me um help provide a tool to guide me to deepen my faith or stay connected to God's word. And I I love it, yeah. So I see it more as a positive thing, but I can see both sides, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03:

There there's controversy around it for sure, you know, and for me personally, I'm just like if I can minimize time that I spend on things otherwise, like for example, I used to like this is when I was in mortgage, like, how was I gonna respond to this particular client? Had I utilized something like ChatGPT when it was around and a little bit more proficient now, um, it could have saved me so much time and energy.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

For sure.

SPEAKER_00:

It's amazing.

SPEAKER_03:

Like the ref I have a refined assistant, like refine this message. This is what I want to emphasize. Can you give me a couple examples of how to refine this? Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

That's what I use it for a lot, like polish this up, you know? Yes. It just jot down your thoughts, and then it's like having an assistant, which has been nice for you know, salt, and also in my corporate job. I mean, yeah, it can create flyers, you know? It's like it's amazing.

SPEAKER_03:

It's it's interesting. I remember very early onset stages of Chat GPT and the the capabilities then versus now, and it's been a very short period of time, yes, is mind-boggling. Mind boggling. I'm like, it wasn't able to create pictures or flyers at one point, and now it's like punching them out like it's um candy out of a candy machine.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. One of the funny things that I learned through my corporate job was you could submit a picture of your dogs and turn them into humans and give them a personality.

SPEAKER_03:

I am literally gonna do that. You should. I'm literally going to do that. It's interesting. I have to just share this real quick because it's too funny not to share. But Joe has been like made the voices of what Ace and Deuce would sound like. These are for the listeners right now. Like, if you do not know me, we have two King Charles cavaliers, Ace and Deuce. And Ace is just like he's become very like old in his age, but he and he kind of has that I don't care attitude anymore. And the voice that Joe makes for him is hilarious. My god, like just hilarious. And I'm like, I wonder what Chat GPT would punch out as like a as a human being image for him specifically. You have to do it, they both would be hilarious. It's highly entertaining. We should do this before you leave, just so you can get a girl out of it. I gotta see it. It's so funny. Okay, my next question. I think I've got some insight into this, but what has, as you have entered into entrepreneurship again, you're you're a baby in all of this, and it's so exciting to see your eyes light up the way that they are. What has support, your village of support, looked like for you?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I'm glad that you asked that because I feel like I haven't like talked too much about the collaboration piece and how important that has been for SALT. And so, like Faith and Gather, partnering with Monica, um, and then the churches, uh, Westwood Church, and then a couple other churches, like those partnerships have been so impactful. Um, and they have been my support system to help me continue on. Like, I also have in the back of my mind, like you can, I told myself I'd do it for at least a year. Yeah. And we're, you know, I think we're like six months in, and I have events into February.

SPEAKER_03:

Um you get it, you're you're very quickly approaching that year mark without slowing down.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So and I initially ordered, you know, the hat that you're wearing. I ordered 40 of it for my 40th birthday. They're gone. I have to do a reorder. Yes. And so that I mean, like, what? Like, I I know it's at times I feel like it's very slow move me moving, but then at other times I'm like, wow, God has placed all these people in my life to help support this business and inspire me to keep going. Um, my husband's been so supportive. Um, just all the collaboration partners, they've been so supportive. I just and the feedback from the events as well. Like the first event that we have, somebody came up to me and was like, this is exactly what I was looking for, especially in the Catholic setting. It was yeah, you know, it's they don't do a lot of those types of activities, so it was kind of a stretch to even bring it to that community, but it it was incredible. And now we're doing it quarterly, so it's just yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Could you speak to like what your um the history of your faith?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So I was born and raised Catholic. I went to a Catholic school K through seventh grade, and the only reason why I left for eighth grade is just to meet more people at a public school setting. Um, and that was my personal decision. My brothers and sisters didn't didn't do that. Um and then I just kind of felt like I didn't know very much about my faith and was just going through the motions. I went to church every Sunday, um, wasn't so good about it in college. Um and then yeah, and then even during COVID, you know, we would watch on TV and really we've been intentional with trying to figure out not just, you know, we're gonna raise our kids in the Catholic faith because that's you know how we were raised. We're trying to be intentional about choosing what is best for our family. Yeah. So I call us, you know, church hoppers because we're, you know, parishioners at one church, but then we I feel like we ask the kids every weekend which church that they feel called to go to. Interesting. And so we bring them into that decision. Um so I grew up with the Catholic background, but I'm also trying to figure out how we want to move our family forward and in what faith foundation. I also love with SALT, one of my missions is to bring people out of their churches and unite the community as believers.

SPEAKER_03:

Interesting. And I love this approach too, because um if we continue to sit in echo chambers, that's also not good for us. No matter, no matter what, if the echo chamber is like, I believe in Jesus Christ, He's the savior, I believe in God. There's still little nuances that are happening, depending on which you know, breakout from Catholicism you are. There's still like there's something about getting outside of the echo chamber and outside of your bubble agreed to experience. And I mean, this is this is again, I feel like we're kind of coming back to a lot of the things that we spoke to off-air, but like the more division that continues to happen in the world, it it's that's not good, but the more that we can continue to work together to understand in a uh a meaningful way while also politely disagreeing sometimes, it's okay. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay that other people have disagreeing points to you, and this might this might be the case even in like you know, Catholics versus Protestants versus, you know, whatever uh what's the word I'm looking for? Not avenue of um religion. Do you understand what I mean? Denomination. Denomination. Yeah, thank you. I'm like, it's literally on the tip of my tongue. So no matter what denomination you are, there's still agree to disagree stuff that happens even in that setting, and we all have the same common belief. It's just wild to me. But I love that you are sort of on this mission like let's draw you out of this environment and get you get all of us players into an this environment over here that's completely different.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

But understand this is our mission. We believe in in the same thing, exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

And let's move our bodies at the same time. So I I have a mix of events, so I have them in the churches and then outside the churches. So I think both are important to grow the community within the church, and then also like let's unite as just believers. And yeah, like you said, let's not you know be divided like our politics and let's learn from each other.

SPEAKER_03:

How do you decide then or has this sort of organically done its own thing for you in terms of like how you're deciding, like where and with who?

SPEAKER_00:

It's with whom, sorry, with whom it's been completely organic. It's God has led me to these collaborations and these events. Um and yeah, it's been incredible. It's been a complete mix of both in churches and then outside of churches. So I love it.

SPEAKER_03:

It's it's really powerful what you're doing. Thank you. You're welcome. We've talked a lot about a lot of the amazing positive things that are continuing to happen. And I I love your notable mention of like this is happening organically, and I think that this is just a testament to like putting your belief in God and the mission that He's backing you on for this. There that also comes with valleys too. Like this is like this happens in the Bible. We go through our valleys and we understand that we smile through the happiness, but we all smile. We also should be smiling through the suffering, too. And so I'm curious if you have any insight. Um being so early on in your in your entrepreneurial journey, if you have experienced. Experienced some struggles where you've had to sort of grin and bear it. And if you can speak to that. And if not, that's okay. But like, has there been another moment that you can speak to that could be insightful and helpful for another woman listening right now?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Since it's so early on, I haven't had um too many of those moments. But I will say this whole process has been very uncomfortable. And I'm a people pleaser, and I've like growing up, I place high value on what other people think of me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

What's been uncomfortable about it?

SPEAKER_00:

Just well, with my Catholic Catholic upbringing, we're very private in our faith and prayer life. So it's been uncomfortable to be more vocal in that space. Um also just with my faith. I mean, that was just not how I was, you know, a year, year and a half ago.

SPEAKER_03:

Um okay, let's dive into this. Okay. I want you to, I want to massage more out of you because I think that there's really a lot more to this.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, and uh selfishly, I want to I want to know how you're working through it too, because this I think I'm I'm beginning to inch closer into this, like not being afraid to speak out to what I believe, yeah. Right. And firmly standing in that and not allowing uh the world to push me over. Can you hear my stomach growling?

SPEAKER_00:

It's okay.

SPEAKER_03:

It's okay. I have I have had that happen, and my stomach is literally almost getting to that point, too. So you're in good company. Um, but no, I don't think that the microphone probably picked it up. The listeners are like gonna be listening for it. She's hungry. Yeah, it's okay. I mean, we're well, it's still the morning, so tell me a little bit more though, about um how you've worked through that. And if you're willing to speak to like maybe a specific circumstance, or if there has been a few circumstances where it's been like, oh, I wasn't expecting that, but this is how I moved through it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so I just I mean, I have to move through it through prayer. Like God has called me to this space, and it's almost like I like I am working for God, so I can't let other people's opinions weigh me down. And just this quote I always think of God doesn't call the qualified, he qualifies the called. And so I just try to remember that and keep that in the back of my mind. Um, and I will say, like, it's you know, some of my friendships, I've never talked about my faith life. And so to bring that to the forefront, that's uncomfortable. I mean, that's been one of the hard things as well.

SPEAKER_03:

Um Do you, I might be pushing the envelope a little too much here, but do you have friendships where it's very evident that faith is not important to them or they just aren't religious?

SPEAKER_00:

Most of my friendships, no, but they are not vocal or active in their faith life. Um, so yeah, it just at times feels uncomfortable, but I know I'm doing what I'm supposed to do, but it's just not always easy. But I hope I'm helping inspire them at the same time. I love that. That was a nice little message in a call.

SPEAKER_03:

But everything beautiful happens outside of our comfort zones too, which is so cliche, and I am sure I can literally hear the eye rolls. But it's true. It is true. I mean, that is where the growth happens, is when we decide that we are ready to get uncomfortable. And I'm almost speaking to myself through talking about this out loud with you. So thank you for sharing how you have bravely moved through that and still continued on your mission because you understand what your calling is.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. And I was missing that growth piece in my corporate life. Like, it's like I'm just gonna create my own thing, and God has called me to this space, and it's gonna be very uncomfortable. I mean, fitness has always been a passion of mine. Yeah. Um, but integrating the faith component has been stretching for sure. But it's in the best way. Yeah. It, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So was there moments in time too, as you were either sitting in church or um reading through your Bible where you had these like aha moments of like discovery of verses that sort of tied in with fitness?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, not necessarily. I mean, honoring your body as a temple of the Holy Spirit, you know, is one that comes to mind, but that wasn't one that was necessarily forefront for me. Yeah. When I was developing the brand, it was just the salt and spreading the light. And just I know how much movement is important in honoring our God-given bodies. And yeah, I just, and you know what? Thinking back, I recently thought about this. Are you a Peloton fan?

SPEAKER_03:

I'd I we've got like a hand-me-down, passed down um treadmill downstairs, not equipped for Peloton. Um, but I know it's like a craze. Like I've had other individuals on the podcast that are promoters of Peloton. And so is there a specific instructor that you're gonna speak to?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so I was thinking back recently, and Allie Love did Sundays with Love, and she did a ride that was like centered around like self-improvement or something like that. So that's kind of like I think what sparked this whole thing. Interesting. I know, like I'm not for sure, but like it's like, all right, I think that maybe had a little bit of an impact of like what I wanted to do here.

SPEAKER_03:

Interestingly enough, and um it'll be it'll be fun to connect, um, whether it's on the 30th of this month or it's you know further down the road for you to look back and be able to connect the dots because it will happen, and you'll start to see these patterns of the seeds that God has dropped. And you're like, oh yeah, that I can't believe I completely walked over that seed. Yeah. And didn't water it. But here we are now, and I'm deciding that looking backwards, this is how and why God has led me to where everything is at now and where he's leading you moving forward as well. It's so, it's so fun. What's particularly fun too is when I have women on who have been operating their businesses for five years, 10 years, 15 years, and they can do that. They go, oh yeah, I know exactly. Like I look back and go, wow, I had this like really great opportunity at this particular moment and passed it up. But there was this other other opportunity, knowing I had missed this one back here, yeah, to go, okay. If it wasn't obvious then that God was inspiring me, it is it is glaringly obvious now.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep, exactly.

SPEAKER_03:

So it's really fun to be able to do that, and um, you'll find yourself, because this has happened to me, in these very interesting moments, like very random too, where all of a sudden you're like, Oh my gosh. And I've had my husband be like, What? And I'm like, nothing. And he's like, it's never nothing with you. And I can't be like, oh, I was just thinking about like this moment in time five years ago, you know?

SPEAKER_00:

Like, yeah, it's really wild. It is to think that it's exactly what happened to me. I'm like, what? How did I not think of this before? Subconsciously, all of these different things, right? So even the like self-improvement podcasts. I listen to a lot of those. Yeah. Um, and since I've grown in my faith, there are some that I'm like, I'm not listening to them anymore. They're focused on their themselves, and it's like God is in control. I listen to people who honor God and recognize him in in their life. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that has definitely led me down this path as well. Like Ed Milet. I'm a big one. I was just gonna ask, like, who are you listening to right now, Jess? Ed? Yep. And listen to your podcast as well. I mean, it's very inspiring to see hear other um moms and entrepreneurs that have you gone down this path and the struggles that they've had faced and how they've grown. And yeah, it's just really what you're doing is amazing, and God is working through you, and it's very evident.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, thank you. I just pray that he continues to work through me for courage and strength and bravery. So it's I realize that some like sometimes I am like, How can I do this? versus going, what is God compelling me to do and work through him? So kind of getting away from the me and the I.

SPEAKER_02:

Yep.

SPEAKER_03:

And instead going, How am I being inspired by God and leading by prayer through all of this? So I love that. Yeah, thank you. Look at us just complimenting one another for our missions. So I I am um I literally had this happens frequently. I had a question and it was like it's gone. I completely forgot. I think though, like this is probably one of my shorter episodes, but we've done such a fantastic job of covering all of the bases pretty efficiently and effectively. Yeah. So I think we can start to land the plane, okay, so to speak. You may have heard me say that as well. So I'm I am curious, knowing all that you know in this current moment, again, a very short period of time, but knowing all that you know now, looking back, what's a piece of advice you'd give a younger version of yourself? Six or seven months younger version of yourself.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I would say do what's uncomfortable. That's where you're gonna grow. Um, don't let other people's opinions weigh you down. I love it. Yeah, I think that has you know stopped me in my younger life. And now I'm recognizing the importance of it and just thanking God that He has called me to grow. Hmm. So good.

SPEAKER_03:

What's a piece of advice you would give another woman listening right now that's in the same sort of trenches that you're in?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so I would say, let's say they're working in the corporate environment, not really getting anywhere, not feeling feeling fulfilled, create your own opportunity. That's where you're gonna grow, and that's what's gonna be fulfilling. You can align your passions with it. And um, and also the other piece of advice for those who are kind of like lost in their faith life, um just come to an assault event, honestly, and grow your faith, move with others. I don't want it to be in in I want it to be a welcoming space for people to do that. You know, it's hard to walk into a new church or you know, just try to find what works for you. And I feel like a lot of people back down when they are presented that opportunity because they're just intimidated.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I want this to be a welcoming space um and for people to grow and unite as believers.

SPEAKER_03:

So that's so amazing. Would you say, in just doing a reflection backwards, that there was that moment in time where you lost a hue of yourself, and in taking this leap into starting salt, is one way of you regaining that reclaiming and re-imaging what your identity looks like?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I would say I lost my hue earlier this year, like before I turned 40. I just kind of like I don't want to say it's a midlife crisis, but something of the sort. Like, who are the people that I want to be around? Um, and who, like, who are my true friends? Like, why what is God calling me to do here? Because He calls each one of us. We're made uniquely. We all have our own talents, and I just want to like encourage other people. I want to share my story to help encourage other people to pursue to pursue their passions and uh just bring God's light into this world. That's so good.

SPEAKER_03:

I love it, Jess. What I would love to hear who would be a good connection for you.

SPEAKER_00:

I would say any uh like faith-based fitness instructors, I would love to, you know, work with more um and provide different types of fitness events to continue to do that. Um and also, you know, long-term goal would be to spread salt across the US.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh my gosh. I literally was just thinking, like, okay, well, what happens if there's somebody who I know that's not here locally? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I would love to like have pop-up events across the US. That would be amazing. Think about what that opens up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, it it truly in like how you view your business and what different approaches you might have to take. So it's it's gonna be really interesting in a year, a year from now, when I touch base with you on how everything has gone since your episode dropped. Yeah, what's new, what's changed, it's gonna be really exciting. And I I know deep in my soul that like this is something that's gonna continue moving forward in such a positive way because this is what our world needs right now. Agreed, truly, truly. And um, you know, ironically, I just remembered what this other question was. So you spoke to the sort of this aspect of well-roundedness, right? In the wellness area, like what has that looked like for you, and how can you speak from your perspective to other people, even if it's just in the sense of like the importance of moving your body and why salt ties into that too.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so I mean, I'm all about the small changes and how they compound, they have a compounding effect, and so you know, it could be like a 10-minute walk every day. It's just moving your body, like engages your mind, and yeah, it's so important. I feel like God made us for community. So that's an also an important aspect of salt in their events, and so salt events like provide an opportunity to do all three, and I would just encourage someone listening who have who hasn't been to an event yet to try it out, yeah. And you know, start with small changes, and that will be impactful in your wellness life and all and in all areas of your life. It's really beautiful. How can our listeners get connected to you? Um, my website. So I have uh a website www.sweatandliftruth.com. I'm also on Instagram. Um Sweat and Live Truth is the handle. And yeah, that's how they can connect with me.

SPEAKER_03:

I will be sure to drop all of that information into the show notes so our listeners can get connected. Um, I can't wait to be a part of the event on the 30th. I am proclaiming it. I love it. I'm so excited to have you. The ticket is purchased before the end of the day today. I'm so grateful. I love seeing your face. Oh, by the way. It's just thank you, Kelly. It is you're living out your truth, and it's so fun to see how you're just making waves in this and the people who you're continuing to get connected to, where it's it's evident like you and Erica. Yeah, that's a match made in heaven. Yes, I can't wait to park it with her. Truly. And so thank you for all that you're doing. Thank you for coming on and sharing your wisdom of how you're approaching entrepreneurship as as it pertains to the startup component of it. It's really insightful and super helpful. So thank you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, and thank you for the opportunity and continuing to lift other moms up in this space. And I'm so grateful for you, Kelly.

SPEAKER_03:

You're so welcome. Thanks. I hope you have a great day. You too. Thank you. Bye. Thanks for listening. And if you enjoyed this episode and know of any inspiring mamas who are powerhouse entrepreneurs, please help connect them with myself and the show. It would mean so much if you would help spread this message, mission, and vision for other Mompreneurs. It takes 30 seconds to rate and review, then share this episode with your friends. Until the next episode, cheers to reclaiming your hue.

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