The Invested Fathers
The Invested Fathers
IF 62 - Board Games, Dragons, and Dad Life with Justin Mills
In this episode of The Invested Fathers, Kenny sits down with Justin 'Dragon Man' Mills, founder of Gold Dragon Investments, to discuss how his passion for dragons and fantasy literature influenced his personal and professional mission. Justin shares his journey in creating his own business, the importance of kindness and joy, and numerous impactful anecdotes involving his children. The episode speaks into the significance of leading by example, the benefits of personal growth and mindset, morning routines, and the enriching experience of playing board games with family. Justin emphasizes the value of saying 'yes' to our children and how simple acts of kindness can have far-reaching effects.
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00:00 Introduction to Justin 'The Dragon Man' Mills
00:15 The Origin of Gold Dragon Investments
02:14 The Power of Kindness and Joy
03:51 The Dragon's Lair and Board Games
05:11 Parenting Lessons and Proud Dad Moments
11:56 Mindset and Personal Growth
21:13 Morning Routines and Breath Work
27:08 Final Takeaways for Dads
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The thing I love about bringing joy is the unexpected benefit that comes from it. The things that you do sometimes as simple as holding the door for somebody, which just happened this weekend, this young, woman was just so surprised, appreciative of the graciousness that I ran to this door to open for her. And, those unexpected smiles, and then who knows what kindness she will do for someone later because of how it's benefited her mood, right?
Speaker 2:Justin, the Dragon Man Mills. Welcome to the Invested Fathers. How are you today?
Speaker:Doing well. Thank you very much, Kenny. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2:Justin, you've got a cool, dragon logo on your shirt right now. looking fresh. I know you're in California. Tell us a little bit about, dragons. What's the story there?
Speaker:I've always had an affinity for dragons. the fantasy genre and theme has always been something that's been warmed, that I really appreciate. I, I read, ridiculous amount of books, as a child, I found escape in reading and that was really where I spent a lot of my time. so I've always had a preference for that, but the idea of, And part of where specifically the gold dragon came from gold dragons are the strongest of the two dragons. they are good aligned. They go on missions for good and they try to help people. they're protectors. and, as my personal mission to bring joy to others, that's something that's aligned completely with all of it. And when it came in together, it was just a light bulb went off and it made sense to me. I just really leaned into it. So that's how it started. Excellent. Gold dragons. Your company
Speaker 2:name is gold dragon investments. And when did you found that? When did that officially launch or get started?
Speaker:in my mind, a few years back, but, officially on paper a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2:Okay, excellent. I started east west capital. probably about two years ago. And it morphed. I was East West property solutions, basically doing fixing flips and buying small rentals. And then I realized, I kind of wanted to start scaling this. So tell me a little bit about where did gold dragon investments, you said start a few years ago in your mind. what's been the like high level journey thus far of this thing that you've started?
Speaker:so Total transparency part of it also was in regards to creating an llc for tax purposes. Ultimately was relevant right? I was investing a lot in my business before it became what it is today i'm also Stock trader. And so part of that came about where that idea came about, needing to create the LLC and then, the idea about why and what I was trying to do with it and what I want to use the money for, right? Because the money itself is just the tool, right? It's, and what does that tool do? for myself, I want to use it to bring joy. I want to help people, right? I want to help my family, but I also want to help, and, I'll go into the weeds a little bit on this. The thing I love about bringing joy is the unexpected benefit that comes from it. The things that you do sometimes as simple as holding the door for somebody, which just happened this weekend, this young, woman was just so surprised, appreciative of the graciousness that I ran to this door to open for her. And, those unexpected smiles, and then who knows what kindness she will do for someone later because of how it's benefited her mood, right? that's a small window, but there's when you do things for people, same thing this weekend, I was with my daughter at college. We went to go visit her and, there was a gentleman that we were talking to online while we were waiting. he was in the air force and a civil engineer and really kind. we all started chopping it up. And when we went through I thanked him for his service, because I really am grateful for the freedom that we have in our country. When we went to breakfast, autumn breakfast, And, I didn't tell him I just did it and behind the scenes. And, he ended up coming up afterward and just thanking me for it. But it was absolutely my pleasure to do it. And if I could have done it without him knowing it was me, I would have done it. Just that kindness, just to plant that seed, right? And paying it forward or doing that kindness. And who knows what he would do later in the day because of some graciousness or gratitude that was given, right? And so, to bring it all back to my thought process, the idea is about, When you do kind things and you give joy like it just perpetuates itself like it just continues on right and the idea about a legacy is planting a seed in a garden that you'll never see and I love planting those seeds everywhere and just watching it grow
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker:My game room that we're in right now is the Dragon's Lair. custom built. it's a sweet room. I'm very fond of it. It's my favorite room in the house, frankly. The dragons layer. Yes. Yeah, the dragons layer. That's it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I remember last time we talked, and for those that aren't watching or just listening, there's a big cabinetry, huge cabinetry behind you. What's in that cabinet?
Speaker:Oh, it's stuff full of games. I own over a thousand board games.
Speaker 2:Love it. The man with a thousand board games. For anyone. That's a, that's a gamer out there in regards to board games. This guy's got it all. And I think last time we talked, I was just coming off of a fresh game of Stratego and you were like, Ooh, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker:Yeah, it's fantastic. you were playing with a bunch of younger kids and I think that was awesome. Getting that thought process, that strategy, there's so much that was even in that small game, like basic capture the flag, The ideas behind how to play it and how you position it, the subterfuge required, if you really think it through and where you can put your flag, how you position the bombs, I think it's a fantastic game for any age, but especially, younger kids, so good on you. That's my youngest daughter, Scarlett. she's my gamer out of all my kids. Like they'll all play a little bit, but my youngest, like when I come inside the house, she's like, board game, board game, board game. Yes. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. And she has, she's played several games of strategic with me and yeah, she's really good.
Speaker 2:Justin, I'm going to get into the kids in just a minute, but I wanted to do a follow up comment on the kindness because I. Can totally resonate with the stories that you shared. I feel like the cool thing about both those stories is you weren't necessarily Preparing yourself like intentionally for those two situations. they happened to you and you have this almost like impulsive choice to like, Oh, should I do this or not do this? And sometimes we wrestle in our heads about Oh, should I, that might be awkward. Or, do I have that money to do that? Whatever thing. But at least from the stories that you, it seems like you just were like ready to go in regards to thankfulness for that guy. And as well as I'm sure you didn't think twice about buying his meal. You're like, Hey, this is something I think is like easy and happy to do it. And the dividends or the return is going to be so much more than whatever that cost was for that meal.
Speaker:Kindness is its own reward, but sometimes it pays dividends. And I completely agree with you that leaning in and just doing it was just the right thing to do. And it felt right. And I just did it because it aligns completely with my mission. Completely. Yep. But the dividends that come from that, like the way that I felt, the way that he felt about it, The story that I can share here now with you and with the listeners, right? what if that inspires them? And you and I will never know. what if later today someone goes and does something similar to that? And the idea about that legacy planting that seed, that
Speaker 3:gets
Speaker:me so excited to know that is a reality. and if you're listening to this right now, I'm going to encourage you to go do a random act of kindness for somebody today, please.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for your own sake, for your own joy, go help someone else. I love that. I think as dads, that's something that we can tell our kids, hey, you should do this. But when they see you do it, and that's been a theme that I just am getting pounded and trying to pound in regards to just like lead by example. So when our kids are with us and they see dad holding the door, running to hold the door or, smiling with somebody like the cashier or the drive thru person, or, Hey, we're going to buy this person's meal. I think that's one of the best rewards that we can get as dads is just having that example that we're living out. have you, been able at this point, I'm sure there's been a lot of situations with your kids that you've taught by example, but anything that's come back in the last few weeks, months where you've seen Oh yeah, like they got this lesson or something.
Speaker:it's, so funny enough, yes. And actually there's two examples I'll use and I'll try to keep it brief here. The first would be, my daughter. so we went to go visit her in college. She goes to UC Davis. And the day we were going to see her on Saturday, I got a text and it has a picture that my wife shared with me and my daughter broke her tooth. She was laughing and she opened the cabinet and it smashed her tooth and it cracked the bottom piece, like pieces missing. of course I'm like, Oh my God, honey, I'm so sorry that happened. And she said, yeah, it's not ideal, but even that alone, yeah, it's not ideal, but it wasn't like, Oh, what was me? it is she had already, she was setting the appointment with the dentist. She's like, all right, I'm just going to move forward. Like I can't change what happened. And I recognize that. And yeah, it stinks. But. What can I do about it? And seeing that in action, seeing her take that action and do that, deal with it and take it with grace, right? Recognizing having the strength understand what she can't control, And being able to take the action that she can, right? Yes. It's a father. I was so excited. Yes. Total win. And, piggybacking off of that before she went to, college, she rocked it in high school. it's funny. A friend of mine said your kid won high school. she got nine scholarships, which by the way, did not dent the tuition costs. but she got nine different scholarships, no matter what they were, the fact that put in that effort and that institutions, wanted to donate to her, regardless of their motive, they chose her to give that money to, and that's awesome. But to really, the crux of what I'm saying here is that she got a, front page in the sports, Ross because she was an MVB goalie and she rocked it. She also got best female athlete of the year high school. And in the interview that they did with the newspaper, I put it up on my wall and I highlighted one passage, one paragraph, and this is the dream for me that I hope. All my kids and slowly, but surely they're all getting it. is that she said that being a goalie, is a very mentally challenging position, but she's always felt that she was that it came to her naturally. and to paraphrase, it says that, to always be positive and always be learning and growing and To hear that come from the mouth of at the time 17 years old She's 18 now
Speaker 3:like
Speaker:to hear that come from someone like such a level of maturity But someone so young like that was one of the most proud dad moments. Like I think i've ever had. Yeah And I said there was three the third thing I would just mention is just yesterday I was in the bathroom getting ready and my son's taking a shower. And out of nowhere, he says, Hey, dad, I said, yes, son. He said, I just want to say thank you. It's thank you for all the lessons that you've taught me and how inspiring you've been. And I just I really love you. Like, I'm sure glad it's hot in here. It's steamy because I'm not crying or anything like, wow. Wow. Yeah, it was. It was so he's 16. And so to hear that, wow, 15 year old boy was just like, Whoa. so yeah, talk about, proud dad moments like those are, that's what I live for. Like just being able to know that when you talk about leading by example, right? Like you can say any, but what you do, right? That's your actions speak louder than words. And and when you do both, right? It's the idea about, some people say, work, smarter, not harder. I like to say do both. Do both. You'll get there twice as fast. And so if you can say it, but also do it and lead by example, that just really helps to support and cement that mindset. and I think when you have a powerful or strong mindset, that can help you through so many challenging positions, like the situation with my daughter's tooth. Right.
Speaker 2:I can see it in your face, Justin. I know, you say proud dad moment, but when you look up and smile and are reflecting, that's what we all want as dads, that feeling is what we're going for. And to some, we're reaping those fruits right now we're in that harvest time. we're planting the seeds. We're in the trenches. We're trying to figure out, what we're doing. and I know you've been there too. but let's just talk mindset. I think that's something that's really cool that we can learn from because, take it back to the business world because we were talking to him before we recorded about entrepreneurs and that sense of, We're going to put the work in. We're going to, invest. We're going to do these things, hoping, planning to get it back. But sometimes it takes a little bit of time and it feels a little scary. There's like the fear realness of whatever it is we're facing. any recent stories that you've experienced where you felt that fear, but that mindset of staying positive or. Work smarter and harder has carried you through something like a trial.
Speaker:Every day, every day, every day. No, like I do constantly challenge myself and I have a lot on my plate and I've put even more. what I've had to actually do is learn more about focus. Like I want to do so many awesome things, but when you stretch yourself too thin, you don't do any of them well. And so having to come back and focus and then also, find out how, Dan Martell is a book, buy back your time. One of the ideas is that is like, how can I maximize this? And so what I've really been leaning into over the last year for myself is the 80, 20 rule. what do I love to do and what am I really good at? And how do I pour 100 percent of my energy into that 20 percent that is where my niche is and all the other stuff like how do I delegate that bring on an assistant, which I did, I hired a full time assistant. I got the real AI working for me. Aaron's initials and he's amazing. The guys. Got a wonderful heart. He and I align wonderfully. and I bring this up because the talk about being a challenge and pushing yourself through. So like that was highly uncomfortable, right? to go on and make these massive investments to literally take the responsibility of having to employ a person and provide for their livelihood. it's a big step and not one that I take lightly. And, stretching and I'm a single income family, the father of three children and my wife, together living in the Bay area. that's not small, from a cost standpoint. it's one thing to make it, but when you're hemorrhaging money on everything, your investments, your opportunity, You like the food, the kids, like they want to eat. I don't know what that's all about, but, uh, just small amounts, just like yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Bread and water. but luckily, I'm very thankful for all that we do have. Right. and it's kind of funny. I look back and talk about, things that we take for granted, toilets that flush and hot, Potable water, like how amazing we really have it. Like even at the most, the lowest of economic levels, like we're doing so much better than the vast majority of the world, based on what I'm aware of my perspective. So I'm very thankful. I'm very blessed. I'm very lucky for what I have in my life. And, you talk about going outside the comfort zone, pushing yourself, constantly doing that. The more that you push yourself, the more that you get used to it, the more it becomes the norm. And then your boundaries, extend, right? And then, so now that's normal, and then you can push it again, right? And how do you constantly push that boundary so that it stretches greater and greater, right? and so I find myself sitting on this edge of discomfort. All the time. And every time I start to get complacent or feel like I'm comfortable. I'm like, wow, this is great. And I don't need to do anything more. I'm like, Whoa, get that thought out of my head. Like that's I hit the gas, right? Let's go. and it can be trying at times. I'm sure it's trying for my wife putting up with me, especially when I'm always like, let's go. but I just think there's so much value in it. I really lean back every time it starts getting too daunting because I'm human, it happens. I'll give myself a pep talk. I'll literally go talk to myself, like, not to sound too weird, but I'll go into a room and I'll literally just get inside my head. Sometimes I'll talk out loud and talk through. The experience and what can I do? I'll get a pen and paper and write it down. after that brainstorm session, I walk out. I feel like I've got a focused plan. Like I know steps that actions that I want to take. And then I go take those actions. And then just rinse and repeat.
Speaker 2:no, love it. In fact, I have not heard someone say that yet in regards to I go in a room and I talk to myself, but I am working with my son right now on saying positive affirmations when he's feeling. Ready to give up and am I doing the right thing? I don't know. like, for instance. Um, so we do this dairy allergy, thing where he has to drink a glass of milk every day. And when he was first starting it, he would basically like, this is hard. I don't like this. And I would say, Moses say, I am strong and dad says, say, I am strong. I am strong. Say it louder. I am strong and we would do it and what was so this was a few years ago, but what he did to my daughter yesterday She was sad about she hit her head on something and she's crying every two hours. Moses says to my daughter Daphne, say, I am strong. Oh, yes. He was doing it to her and she did it and she was doing it and even like good job dad. So anyway, so that was my good job
Speaker:moses
Speaker 2:But I guess what i'd like to know is How often do you do that? And what are like the, for someone that like maybe wants to try that or has not tried that before, when did you start doing that? And what has been some of benefits takeaways?
Speaker:Wow. I've been doing that for a long time. I started a kind of a personal growth mission. I really leaned into my own personal growth and becoming 1 percent better. James clear atomic habits. what are the small habits that I can implement that will make me better a little bit at a time. And when I look back at the end of that, I'm like, wow, look how far I've come. It didn't feel that way at the time. So I've been doing it for a long time now. And, but it didn't really have. I didn't know what I was doing or how I did it, I just clung through it and it seemed like it was right. And I'm sure that in one of the podcasts or one of the books I've read or something came about where that inspired me to start focusing on doing that. maybe this podcast will inspire someone to do that too. And I will tell you from first hand experience, it absolutely works. It helps a lot. and what I've gained from that is clarity. Clarity and a resilience. So I've always been a pretty stubborn individual, for good or ill. but, the thought is that when I find myself getting into a funk or feeling like I'm not moving forward or feeling that I'm, you know, spinning my wheels, uh, And if I recognize that I'm, on a decline on an emotional or mental level, whatever that is just distancing myself from whatever that problem is for a moment or that environment that's affecting me. And that's why I go and I sit in a room by myself, right? there's no outside distraction and there's no one else talking. There's no other audio, like it's just me. and then I get into my own head. sometimes I'll talk it through. Sometimes I'll just think it, but I oftentimes will put pen to paper because there's something about. The way you formulate that thought and having to put it into word. and then as you write it, it's therapeutic. it helps to, generate ideation, even as you're thinking it and you start to formulate it, right? It pulls that pressure, that power, like a fire hose, right? It starts to move. Put it at us and point it in a single direction and then some of the things that come out from my notes like I didn't even know that I would have ever expected that. And then I go back and I read my notes and that's actually a pro tip that I would tell anybody that, I think I'll use you as an example. Kenny, if anything you've been in, you go into a class or you do something and you're taking a whole notebook of notes. How often do you actually go back and reread those notes? That's a genuine question.
Speaker 2:Um, probably
Speaker:never, to be honest. Right, right. And that's exactly what I think. No one ever does. No one ever does go back and reread the note, man, go back and reread all that stuff you wrote down. Like you put it there. You're like, Oh, that's right. You go back and you reread it. And suddenly it brings back something that you recall. There's something you thought at that time, or you get a new idea that comes from it, right? Like you've already got the content there. You've already invested the time, the effort, the energy, and you've already literally written it down. Go back and reread it. And you will be amazed. The information, the knowledge that you'll pull away from that second session of reading. So read your notes. if that is one of the best tips I could give to anybody, and I found that 99% of people never go back and reread what they created or what they wrote down.
Speaker 2:Give me, your process on, you mentioned the James Clear Atomic Habits. Buy back your time, Dan Martell. I have not read the Dan Martell book. I have read the atomic habits. What has been. One of the best ways that you've implemented gaining clarity in your missions and in your life And maybe even if you could highlight it in the lens of being a dad that's a great question like you mentioned like that the pro tip of the writing something down that's one thing that's happened Has it has that spilled over into dad hood? Something like that.
Speaker:Really the thing from a standpoint of fatherhood, the biggest thing that I try to think about is what I'm doing right now, something that I want my kids to do, or how would I feel if my kids saw me right now? I very commonly look at that from that lens and say do I feel that I'm being inspiring? Am I doing something positive? or am I tearing somebody down? that's not usually my style, but again, I'm human, right? So there's things that happen that I'm frustrated about. I know voice those. but I always try to find what is the lesson in this? What is the lesson? And I'll talk it out. And sometimes, frankly, I'm doing it for me, but my kids are in the car, and they get the opportunity to hear it through too. And everything that I do and you'd ask about morning routine. It's funny. I've really been working hard on trying to get my morning routine I've had one and I've fallen off of it and I've come back to it again. and actually I'm really leaning in right now. oddly enough, maybe not odd. Some people may do this all the time. I hadn't, is breath work. Bryce Robertson. really opened my eyes to it. I went to an event actually earlier this year and I was standing in a courtyard and this guy looks over. He's looking at me and I'm like, Looking behind is he staring at me? and it's me. He calls me over and he's hey, do you want to sit down? And he creates this little circle and we all do some breath work and some focused breathing. And, I hadn't had any coffee yet. I love my coffee. I hadn't had any coffee yet. And I will tell you afterward, when I opened my eyes, like I, the colors were brighter. I felt like I drank some coffee. And it was really, it was powerful. It was moving for me. So breath work. And, since then I've gone further just to see what all these things are, he listens to breathe the Sandy, and that's who I've started listening to as well. and I like it a lot. So when you talk about morning routine, I found what I'll get up and I will consciously, and I've heard so many things to support this. I purposely don't look at my phone cause I have reminders, like a hundred reminders that pop up. and I'll purposely not look at my phone and I'll come into my game room, the dragons layer, and I'll sit for about 15 minutes. I'll do that. Just this one breathwork session that I like, it's about 15 minutes or so long. And then I'll sit for another five minutes or so, just quietly in my own thoughts and just being gracious, gratitude, Really focusing on what am I thankful for? And some things it's somebody that's really big things that I'm thankful for. And sometimes it's literally just the fact that I have a shelter over my head, right? And I have a cup of water but the idea behind all of that is setting the stage of being thankful and having gratitude, and just emotionally and mentally and physically, I feel better. And so then I come off and then I go into my day and I start, I've got a lot of irons in the fire, and, I mentioned to you, I'm an in day trader. it's funny because once I started doing that, it helped me even with my trading, right? Because it's all about discipline. It's all about discipline, right? Like you can have a hundred great trades. It only takes one to ruin your account if you're not, disciplined. In your plan, you have to very specific plan. Like, where am I getting in? Where am I getting out? Why am I doing it? And to clarify, that's from my style of trading. There's many different types of trading, just like for real estate, right? You can do syndication, multifamily, you can do single home fix and flips, right? You can do, RV parks. anyhow, the point being, there are many different vehicles, in the same space. And finding what yours is. And then really focusing in on that and recognize it. Does it resonate with you? Does it feel right? and as you're going down that path, you may find forks along the road that you're like, I want to go this way instead. And that's totally okay. Cause you wouldn't have known that if you hadn't been going down the path to begin with. and so the idea about for morning routine, Really like it's evolved over time. and it's still an evolution, still a work in process. I'll always be learning and growing much like my daughter said, Always learning and growing. Yeah. What time do you wake up in the mornings? I used to get up at three 45 in the morning. I now I'll let my, I allow myself to into four 45. so some days I get up at four 30, but four 30 or four 45 in the morning.
Speaker 2:Dude, Justin, what time do you go to bed?
Speaker:So I, that's why I allow myself to sleep to four 45 now, usually 10 to 11 o'clock on average. I liked every now and again, my body's okay, battery recharged. I'm in bed by eight 30. but most of the time it's around nine 30 to 10 up to 11 o'clock, usually not past 11, except on game night, Friday night game night. Like I'll push to midnight, even 1. 00 AM. but I'm still, literally seven days a week. like if I sleep in, it's on Sunday and that's usually latest, like seven o'clock.
Speaker 2:Got it. Now that's a great answer. I think that's one of those litmus tests. Yes. We all have different walks of life. There's different ways that we live and sleep and whatever. But I think those that rise early, that is such like a secret hack. Not even a secret. I just personally find if you're still sleeping into seven or eight. Like you're probably missing something that you could be optimizing on. I don't always wake up early. I think I've started waking up around like five. And when I don't get out of bed by that time, it's just a rough start of the day if I'm sleeping in too much and it all starts with when you're going to bed, which is why I asked both those questions. I also like that you said the exception is Friday game night, then I'll stay up late. that's my time to splurge. Doing the board games.
Speaker:Yep. That's, everyone's got a passion or a hobby, right? Something that you really enjoy
Speaker 3:and,
Speaker:and board games is mine. it's the analytical process. It's the resource management. I love the game. And I don't really care what game it is, frankly. I love all games. I think I like crunchy games more. Like ones that are, if you had an infrared camera on the table and everyone's head's pumping red because they're thinking so hard, those are my favorite. It was my favorite. but this is what I actually COVID, the pandemic when it hit, this is what it, It's not just about the game that I love. It's the camaraderie around the table. It's the people around the table. It's the relationships that we make. It's the stories that we tell. It's talking about our kids. It's talking about, how was your work day? what did you do? and really getting those connections. that is one of the biggest drivers that I love about board games is the camaraderie that comes from it.
Speaker 2:Huge, man. Totally agree. I think there's the thought I have when I, walk by. The board game section of the store. And I'm just like, Oh, these are expensive. Goodness gracious. but I think you've really just sold me on go buy another board game we got three or four right now eventually the kids get burned out on you know, you have a thousand There's no shortage of game and i'm sure you're still buying them I like to think you are investing They gave me trouble No, baby, no, baby Continues to be exceeded That's great. Justin, thank you so much for your time today. I always like to leave with a final takeaway, something for dads. what are some words that you could help us maybe implement this week, as a dad? Say yes.
Speaker:Say yes. Your kid comes home and says, Hey dad, can I go to the park? Yes. Hey dad, will you do this for me? Yes. Hey dad, can we play that board game? Yes, like just say yes, because the days are long, but the years are short and no matter how tired you might be or how hard your day might have been like your child may or may not recognize that in your demeanor, but you are their rock and their hero. Spend that time with them, give them that unconditional love. you may or may not see the benefit immediately, but I promise you will be there. And most importantly, they'll remember it when they're older.
Speaker 2:Very good. Justin, if our audience wanted to keep up with, the dragon layer King, gold dragon investments, whatever you're up to, how would you direct our audience to follow you?
Speaker:LinkedIn is the best source so you can look me up on Justin Mills 52 under LinkedIn profile and gold dragon investments on other social medias as well I am starting a podcast myself. it is called dragon's gold, the magic of mindset, and, it will take people along the journey, to share their story, their hero's journey, if you will, of how they've become successful in the pitfalls that have come about and how they were able to persevere through the magic of mindset.
Speaker 2:Awesome, dude. I'm excited for that. Justin, thanks again for your time today, buddy. Take care.
Speaker:Thank you for having me on. Have a wonderful day, my friend.