Karen Becomes Kevin While Skipping Court

We start with life updates and some much needed beach therapy, then we pivot into the bigger issue: social media misinformation. We talk about why we’ve backed away from constant political coverage, how fake headlines spread on Facebook, and why it feels like every major news cycle comes with a shiny distraction attached.

Then we get to the real centerpiece, a bail bonds story we still can’t believe happened: “Karen becomes Kevin.” Chad breaks down a bond that comes back around with a forfeiture notice, only now the person has changed names and is living under a new identity online. We explain what that does to a case, why warrants and court paperwork get complicated fast, and how modern skip tracing actually works when you cannot just type in the old name and get clean results.

The twist keeps twisting when social media breadcrumbs point to new communities, new habits, and even a relationship that changes the stakes. Instead of a chaotic fugitive recovery scene, we talk through the calmer option: getting someone to comply and meet at the courthouse, avoiding handcuffs and reducing the mess for everyone involved.

If you like real bail bond stories, honest talk about online “news,” and the strange overlap between identity, technology, and the court system, hit play, subscribe, and share this one with a friend. After you listen, leave a review and tell us: how much do you trust what you see on social media?

Transcript

Back From Alaska And Beach Life

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Very five people on both sides.

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These are real stories, but the names of it.

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Hey, what's happening, everybody? Rob here.

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Chad over here. What's going on?

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Uh, we're still doing our thing. Oh man. Another uh now we're getting back in the groove from Alaska, man. How you feeling?

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Yeah, I feel a lot better.

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You know, yeah. I know it it take it took me a little bit to bounce back after that. So if y'all haven't listened to the the episode we did, it was like a couple episodes ago.

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The last one we put. Was it was it the last one? Yeah, yeah. We just we missed a week because of the whole thing. Yeah, you know. Yeah, but yeah, that was the last one.

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But if you haven't checked it out, you need to go check it out. It's uh it's pretty good. It was pretty cool. Um, but other than that, man, uh weather's turning nice again. Thank God.

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Yeah, we got a really nice week uh here. It's like in the uh low 80s. 80s, yeah. Low 80s. Yeah, I know, right? So that's nice.

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Yeah, I'm uh I'm excited about it. Yeah, I guess I love the weather.

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Yeah, I got to go out. Um, one of my neighbors went out on his boat. Uh yeah? Yeah, it was. No, we went down to a restaurant, Cellfish. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, we went there and uh you know how you can park your boat and go in and eat. But we uh we had a nice it was a nice evening just to ride down there with them and go to that. And just on the way back, man, we saw probably a dozen dolphins.

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Oh really?

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Yeah, they were out there feeding uh different uh schools of fish, man. It was cool to see.

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I think we went to Lee Island last weekend for for a day, just for like a half a day. It's kind of nice to sit out there and recharge. Um, it's always good for the soul, man. Saltwater's always good for the soul.

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Yeah, we're we're uh I think we're blessed to be uh in the place that we are. A lot of people wouldn't love to be at the beach. Yeah, that I used to be one of those people that lived inland and always wanted to live at the beach, so I made it happen.

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Yeah, man. I'm telling you, ain't nothing like this town. If y'all ain't been here, y'all need to get here and check it out. Just don't move here

Family Shoutouts And Life Updates

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because we got we're full, we're full of everybody, but you can come visit. Man, the traffic up there where we're at, man, is horrible, ain't it?

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Yes, yes, sir. It is all right.

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So let's get into oh first, I gotta say say congratulations to my fiance's parents. Uh happy birthday, Vernon, and happy anniversary. 51 years, man. Can you believe it?

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Congrats.

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That's you don't see that now much nowadays.

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A whole lot.

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So congratulations, thank you. And they I know they watch, so gotta say hello to that. Now before we got so before we started the show, you're like, hey, go to whitehouse.gov. I'm like, all right, cool. Let's go, let me go check it out.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

Yeah, it was uh Ben Shapiro uh put out a tweet and uh he was like, trust me, go check out whitehouse.gov and I and I saved it on my phone. It was it's about aliens. Yeah, what's up with that? I think it's changed since then, but it was up and it had aliens on there, and uh says they walk among us.

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Wow.

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Do you believe it or do you not? You know who knows what the hell to believe, man. I

WhiteHouse.gov And The Alien Buzz

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don't know, man. It's always like when something major's going on, it's like, hey, look over here at aliens. Um, we saw Bigfoot, he's over there. You know, you know, it's like what it's like social media. Honavirus. Yeah, like where did it go? What happened to that? Where'd it go? Did they not get the response they were looking for out of uh people being scared for that? I mean, I have seen more masks than usual. Well, we saw him we saw him in Seattle for sure. Well, that's a that's a Seattle, like I'm I'm I'm that whole place is wacko.

SPEAKER_04 4:14

Yeah, well, it was pretty though, uh the views. Yeah, yeah. But other other weirdos. But all right, so back back to the whole social media thing. Okay, so I brought this up to you earlier and I saw it, yeah. I've been trying to keep a you know a distance away from govern like the politics because Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

I just turn off TV. I mean I watch a little bit of it. I do like Jesse Waters, my favorite news guy. I like him. But other than that, I don't really watch any news. I turn it on in the morning while I'm cooking my breakfast. That's about it, man.

SPEAKER_04 4:50

Uh yeah. I don't I I see it from like I'll see some stuff like get stone up on social media, right?

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So uh that brings me to another thing. Rob, you know, here gives me his his you know take on what's what's happening in news. And I know where he gets his news, he gets it from Facebook. Yeah. And that's not where you should get your news because there's so much fake stuff on. I just saw, yeah. Have you ever seen the ones where like David Hasselhoff dead? You know, and like then you like actually Google Google it and like, dude's not dead. Yeah, there's a lot of those things. He saw something about um oh yeah, Madonna.

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Yeah, so it's so it's Madonna. I saw something where Madonna was like attacking the the MAGA voters. Now, is it something she would do?

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Probably.

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Uh probably.

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Did she actually say it? Who knows?

Facebook News And Fake Headlines

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Who cares? She's irrelevant.

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But here's the thing, Chad. Here's what's getting to me, Chad.

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Yeah.

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Is I think what they're trying to do, I think they're like whoever is in this world of posting stuff, or it's just people versus people, who knows? But some type of group of people is trying to play everybody again. And I think after so much of what we've had between Biden and his uh zombie-looking ass, and and and the shit that went on with coronavirus and all the you know the liberalism, I I think everybody got tired, you know what, it ain't gonna work, it's not gonna work, and we're tired of it. And I think a lot of people quit quit looking at it.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

Well, I think when we can get past who's got a D and who's got a R by their name, right? And just look at what people are putting out there as to what they can do and you know their morals and stuff like that, and they're you know who they're about to do.

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Well, speaking of that, you know, like um the Chris Pratt, the guy that's running for yeah, he's I don't even know what side, I don't even know if he's a D or an R.

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I don't know, but I like the guy.

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He said he's not running as a Republican or Democrat. Oh, really? Yeah, he's he's kind of in the middle.

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Hey, good for him, man. Smart for and actually he over overtook uh what's her name? Bass? Yeah Karen Bass, I think that's her name. That's a wacko.

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Oh yeah, yeah.

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Um she's like she is a communist.

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Um but have you seen his so I did see this on TikTok and I thought it was funny. His ads from there, yeah. He's going around and pressure, like he's got a stencil and he pressure washes it, and it says, um imagine the streets looking this clean, and then it's got Chris Pratt or something on it, and then it the camera backs up and it's like, oh shit, isn't it? It was in a homeless camp.

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Yeah, I've seen that one.

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Yeah, and so the only way to get it off is they gotta clean the rest of it. They gotta clean it. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, I hope to see some change there.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Well, yeah. I I liked I liked what the guy's saying. He's got the energy, he's uh, you know, California should be all about him, I would hope.

SPEAKER_04 7:51

Well, we'll see, man. That's uh that's a a different world out anything out west is a different world.

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It is, it's a lot different than the way we we do things here. Um I'm not saying they're bad or good, they're just weird. They're different than the way we function, right? Pretty much.

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Right.

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Um, everybody I've met from there is just different.

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Right. Well, maybe they're they're aliens. Maybe maybe there are aliens and they they just invaded the West Coast.

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They walk among us. Who knows?

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Who knows? I don't know. What's y'all's thoughts? Like, I think there's like there's something, but I don't know. Like, like nobody knows.

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Like I don't, I mean, you know.

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But I mean, if you're up there looking down here, you're going, hold on. I don't know if we want to go down there. These dudes down here are chopping their peckers off to get to and to to become the opposite sex. Think about it.

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Think about it. If you were watching and and you saw what was going on here, would you want to be part of it? And you saw some of the crazy stuff that you know we see on TV or in the news or social media or whatever, you'd be like, what is wrong with these people?

SPEAKER_04 9:02

I I don't know, man. I'm anyway. I've I've thought I kind of keep to myself in my little corner at the house there, man. I'm always in the backyard. Like yesterday you called me. I was right in the middle of finishing my you know the it's all good, man.

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I'll go do those $15,000 bonds all day long.

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I know it sucks,

Politics Fatigue And The Middle Ground

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man, because I wanted uh but I was right in the middle of it. It was yeah, that was horrible.

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Yeah, we've had some uh interesting cases that uh we've uh done some bonds on the past. We have actually we have.

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I'm I'm uh uh man, I want to share, I want to share one, but I can't right now at the moment. Yeah, I will later that, I promise you. Um, but other than that, so today's episode, uh ladies and gentlemen, uh speaking of chopping peckers off, uh Chaz got one for you.

SPEAKER_02 9:51

That's a good prelude into the uh the segment there.

SPEAKER_04 9:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Chaz got one for you, uh, ladies and gentlemen. It is uh we called it what uh Karen becomes Karen becomes Kevin. Karen becomes Kevin. That that tells you a lot of the title, right? That missed court, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Yeah, this was uh pre-rob um bond that I yeah, this has been over 10 years ago, sure. So um I got a call years ago to go get Karen out of jail in.

SPEAKER_04 10:22

Oh no, Karen at the courthouse.

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This was at no, this it was Karen. It was Karen. All right, so it's it's a Karen became Kevin.

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Okay, all right. You got it? Yeah, yeah. It takes a minute, man, trying to figure it out is it like wrap your head around it, dude.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

It gets it gets more twisted. Start start little and you know, anyway. So I get a call, leave the office, I go up to the courthouse to get Karen out of jail. It was uh I have

The Pressure Washing Candidate Ad

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no idea. It wasn't like a big bond, like $3,000 bond, something like that. Anyway, you know, some of these cases that we do, we're on this bond until it's completely disposed. And some of these can drag on. Even a DWI can go through. Oh man, play two, three years. So you know, it has been some time, all right. And like we write a bunch of bonds, a lot of people in the course of a year, I don't know, like a lot, a lot of people, you know. You can't you can't just follow their daily stuff, you know. We we check in on them from time to time, but anyway, yeah. We try, but I mean Yeah. So we get a forfeiture notice probably almost a year later on this person. Okay, a year into the bond. Like, okay, so I go file cabinet, pull out the file, I look up Karen, you know, look at her uh next to Ken, whoever co-signed the bond. Hopefully the the phone number still works. Usually it doesn't, you know. Don't you hate that man?

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Yeah, you start dying, you're like, damn it.

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So anyway, um get a hold of him. Yeah, um it it got it got interesting here. Um Karen is no longer Karen. Karen is becoming Kevin. And I'm like, what do you mean? Well, um he's he she's becoming a he or or it it it they didn't say that out you know outright. Right. But this is what I began to when I started looking into their social media. So they actually changed their name. So that becomes complicated when you're looking for somebody.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So yeah, so like, you know, of course you look on social media, you try to find somebody, and that didn't work. So what I had to do was I had to go and run a background on her and find people associated with her. You look at those people on social media, and then you should find your target somewhere in there. I have a theory, you know, even if you get rid of your Facebook or Instagram or whatever, somebody in your circle that's close to you has social media. Right. Right? So if you can find that person, you should be able to come across you right even if you don't have social media, usually. So I was able to find someone close to Karen at the time. And um So hold on, are we calling this

Do Aliens Want Any Part Of Us

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it becomes it changes in the story, right?

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Oh, okay, okay, all right.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Karen changes, dude. I didn't know it was. So does the story.

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Okay, all right, I go ahead. All right. I'm trying, I'm I'm I'm making sure I'm right here.

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I'm thinking so I find out that you know Karen is now going by the name Kevin. Yeah. All right. So now I've got new information. I can go back to social media and look up Kevin last name, whatever. I forget the last name. They're not telling it. Anyway, so I find their page. All right, cool. Find their page. All right. Karen's now getting a little scraggly beard, little mustache thing. And uh, and if you type in like Facebook and the name and everybody with that name and everything, you don't specify people, you just do an all search. So I found now Kevin hanging out in uh testosterone therapy groups, uh talking about doing testosterone injections. Gotcha. Trying to figure out her dosage, I guess, for the the right level for her hormone level. Right. Interesting reading, folks, and got some extra time you might want to dabble with it. I don't know. Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 14:48

I mean, don't like all right, so let me got a question for you about testosterone, real quick. Not trying to, you know, get away from the story, but what do I know about that? What are you talking about? Uh you know, uh well, we reachear a lot of this stuff. But I mean, like, like I was on TRT for a while. What happened? You got off? Uh yeah, my doctor took me off. I'm

Setting Up Karen Becomes Kevin

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like, I'm not on it, and I can't I can't stand it because I hate it because I'm not I'm like I'm tired all the time. Oh but like so. If a woman takes it though, like their body is more used to estrogen than testosterone.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Well, men and women still men have levels of estrogen, you know.

SPEAKER_04 15:26

Yeah, but not like women. And like it's like it's it's flipped. So when a woman is taking like uh hormone blockers and testosterone and all this stuff.

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This is why Kevin's in this this this testosterone therapy chat group. Okay, because it's complicated.

SPEAKER_04 15:43

Oh yeah, it's very complicated.

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You're not and and Kevin's not a doctor.

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Okay.

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So Kevin's uh experimenting on on Karen's body to become Kevin.

SPEAKER_04 15:53

Man, that's gotta suck, man. You wake up one day, so mentally you're screwed up.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

Now, physically, oh yeah, you're screwed up. I I don't think we're we're approaching this thing correctly. You know, I'm just gonna throw that out there. Take take it how you want. I don't think it's it's uh the right way to approach you not being happy with your body. Right. You know, no, I'm with you on that. Because you're you're now you're mentally and physically screwed up. Yeah, and then you like might want to try to treat the mental part, minimize your your problems.

SPEAKER_04 16:29

Some I don't I don't know, like some women or it whatever uh gets off of it and it and it like let's say they said decide they want to go back. Can they go back? Like, how does that work?

SPEAKER_02 16:43

I don't know from a woman's perspective, coming back to from a man to a woman, you didn't have balls

The Bond File Comes Back Around

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to begin with, so yeah. I mean, but you've already well we're gonna spend too much time trying to figure that one out, dude. Let's just end it right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So go ahead. Go ahead with you. All right, so so anyway, um, I get to I get to uh now I can focus on Kevin now I've and during the course of looking through Kevin's new profile and seeing some of the conversations and people that pop up in statements on uh their social media page, I see a recurring one. Turns out it was a officer. Oh yeah. Woop whoop woman so chick becomes dude, dates uh it starts dating.

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Okay, gotcha.

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Now I I don't think it grew a penis. I don't think. No. No, I don't know. I don't know how all that works with you know with taking stuff and you know, you still got no no equipment. I don't know. What why don't you just date a dude to begin with? You know, whatever.

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I don't get it. Hey, what do you call a group of lesbians in a tent?

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Finger finger hut.

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Finger hut.

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How do you know you're in a gay party? The hot dogs taste like shit.

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TikTok but that's funny. I don't care who you are. Anyway, let's get back to staying in the middle.

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Go ahead. We're on Kevin now. He's all right. So Karen's became Kevin.

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We're in Yep, yep. So anyway, I I I I've I'm able to find his new interest. Uh and uh from there, I approach uh the uh uh I I I give a call to the uh the female officer. To the female officer that she's dating and uh I let him know what's going on because I knew that in order for her to keep her job, yeah. She can get in trouble for that. Yeah, yeah. So I said, it's pretty safe, bet. I can I can have a conversation with her and say Kevin is not being honest with you.

SPEAKER_04 19:04

Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:05

Well, it doesn't matter because now I know what's up. Yeah. So so it's

Finding Kevin Through Social Media Clues

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it's like giving them the opportunity, really. So I'm like, Kevin has a warrant, you know. Kevin previously Karen has a warrant, still the same person. It gets complicated when you like talk about warrants and stuff too. This gets complicated, you know. Now you're talking about somebody with a different name. You got to prove that that you know, it's complicated. Anyway, so after talking with them and we arranged a uh meeting. I was able to meet them at the courthouse. I didn't have to go and arrest them. We were able to get it done by meeting at the courthouse.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

Yeah, so this wasn't a full-on arrest, but it was a you better comply opportunity.

SPEAKER_04 19:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've we've done that, we've done them like that.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

Yeah, that's the those are the best way. If you have a warrant, you know, rather than have somebody come and get you or put you in handcuffs and drag you back to jail, it's a whole lot better just to call them up and say, look, hey, let's let's settle this. I'll meet you, clerk's office, you know, magistrate's office, wherever, and get the warrant served. Right. You're your your chances are way better.

SPEAKER_04 20:26

Yeah, and then you you might be able to get rebonded out too. Rebonded out, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:30

Did you rebond her out? Uh no. No, I didn't. That was enough trying to figure out that whole ordeal.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

All right. So when she gets turned in, does she or he, whatever, uh when it comes to descriptions for doing like for them for the courthouse, it come it's it's female, right?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

I mean, I think, right? Yeah. They're they're actually listed as a female uh on the paperwork, even if you n it did change your name. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:05

Oh.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:08

Man.

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I mean, you know, hey, there could be other other bondsmen, bounty hunters out there that have dealt with this situation. Right. I and you know what? Usually it's a dude going to be a girl, right? You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:21

Yeah, it is usually the case. I mean, because it's easier, I guess it's easier for them to be.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

Well, you can play playing sports better.

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Speaking of, is that still a thing now? Like, oh yeah, man, yeah.

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I heard one not too long ago. I don't know what sport it was, but yeah, they dominated. You know.

SPEAKER_04 21:43

Oh gosh. Yeah, I dude.

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I like hey Jimmy, don't you know you what are you doing uh in this in this 12 meter race? Right?

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It's Julie.

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Do not, do not oh man.

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I stay in your

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I don't care about that. Just don't we just and when this is gay pride month, right? Isn't it? I think that's June.

SPEAKER_04 22:17

Is it over with now though? I don't think it's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

I think it starts in June. Are they doing gay still doing that? I don't know. But I mean, can y'all just like be who you are and like we don't have to have parades and how about this?

SPEAKER_04 22:28

You know here's a here's a here's a real good idea. How about quit being an asshole and just be everybody be nice to each other?

SPEAKER_02 22:34

Hey, that's a good idea too. Hey, I like that.

SPEAKER_04 22:37

Can't we all just get along?

SPEAKER_02 22:38

I don't know.

Dating A Police Officer Changes Everything

SPEAKER_02 22:40

Can't we all just get along? Maybe we need a parade about it. Do you have a straight, straight parade?

SPEAKER_04 22:46

I don't would that be considered homophobic or I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

If you have a gay one, it seems like it's only right to have a straight one, right? Get yours.

SPEAKER_04 22:56

No, I don't think it works that way.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

Oh, I'm sorry. I don't think it I don't think it works that way. Okay, well, whatever. We'll have gay ones.

SPEAKER_04 23:04

Yay! Yeah, have fun, whatever. Like I'm so good. Like, I have gay friends. I'm like, I'm not an asshole to them. I I I'm just I'm just as cool as with them. I'll drink a beer with them. I I don't care. We don't, I don't, I just like, but don't like it's the whole craziness. Right and then and that's getting this is getting back to what we're saying at the beginning of the thing. Yeah, and this is where we're getting back to the beginning of the show what we're talking about. Like, how much of this shit is actually real?

SPEAKER_02 23:34

I mean, you see, yeah, yeah. You see some crazy shit going on. Well, you know, my my theory, I have I have a theory about um the uh the government trying to push for um making the population smaller. Yeah, well, I mean I mean if people are gay, you can't have kids. True. No matter what you people think, you can't. Dudes that don't have to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_04 23:57

You gotta have some sperm in there.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Yep. So I mean, between that, the vaccine that was on, you know. Yeah. I mean, uh that's a way to get the population smaller. Man.

SPEAKER_04 24:11

I'll just make them dumb. Make them dumb. Speaking of, my son was telling me he was at he said he was at work today training this new boy. He said a boy was 16 years old, did not know how to count change.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Oh, yeah, that messes up. Uh I do that all the time to cashiers when like it's like um, you know.

SPEAKER_04 24:32

Yeah, they they they hit a button and it tells you how much to give back to them.

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And you give them like the money to where it's even. Yeah, and it messes them up. And they're like, look at you with that dead, you know, lost in space look. You know, like I just tried to make it easier for you.

SPEAKER_04 24:47

So it yeah, and it made me feel better when I said, What would you do? He goes, he goes, Man, I had to I had to show them what's up, I had to show them how to do it. I was like, Really? Wow. I mean, we I've seen it before, but it's like, where are these kids like where are they getting their education from?

SPEAKER_02 25:04

Hey man, they need they need uh $15 an hour uh manual.

SPEAKER_04 25:09

Yeah, they

Courthouse Meet Up Instead Of Arrest

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do. Damn. I'll pay more than that for my own my other business. Wow. Gosh. Wow, hey, I got another joke for you. Sure. What do priest and and racing have in common? What? Priests come in a little behind. They come in in a little behind.

SPEAKER_05 25:35

Okay.

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Yeah. It's not as good as the other fingerhead.

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No, no. We'll have to have to stop on that one.

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I feel like a damn fishbowl sitting right here. Yeah, hey, how you doing, O? We're doing a podcast. Hey. Oh man. Anyway, so um now we got we got some more time. We can sit here and chit-chat for a little bit. What um all right, so we know the NCBAA, which we thank you very much, and Banker Surety. We got to thank yes, both of you guys uh for sponsoring everything that you have uh that we uh that we're doing, and it's helped us.

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Thank you guys for everything. Yeah, it's helped us grow. Helped us with the dog event. Yeah, that was huge.

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And if you ain't watched it, go watch it. It's pretty cool.

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Dude, that the views on YouTube have you know gone. We're at fifty-seven thousand on that, which is awesome. Thank you, those of you who are interested in seeing all that. Yeah, that day was chaotic. I I've been thinking, man, we can probably reach back out to him and you know, do like a a video one, yeah. Follow up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because he they they had a good time. They uh they really liked it. So I would like to follow up with them. Um Leland had a good time, man. He's gotta come down and go fishing, man. Man, I I think. Leland, if you're if you I doubt you're listening, man, but if you do, come on back.

SPEAKER_04 26:54

I think we're gonna I think he finally uh since he got he finally got here, he's like, you know what, yeah, I gotta get back.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:00

Yeah, yeah. I I had talked to him, I think, last week. He he loves your shirts, by the way. Oh, does he oh I had to speaking of shirts, bro? All right, so guys, he's about to come out with his

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shirt. You gotta get it, because I am gonna be the first one to order it. Which one? I got a couple, yeah. Oh, that one?

SPEAKER_02 27:15

The AR one. I'm doing freedom freedom culture. Yeah, and uh it's uh it's the shape of a um tactical rifle. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna look cool. Uh I can't design it right now.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

Uh I dude, you got guys, if y'all haven't I my closet is full of off-the-hook shirts. Uh of course I'm a little biased, but hey, whatever. But I like them. They're they're you can get different, you can get brighter colors, you know, because us down here at the beach.

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We gotta have brighter colors. Yeah, you gotta have a little bit of big.

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I'm with you on that one, yeah.

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You know, we wear a lot of black and gray. Yeah, thanks for wearing gray. That's kind of what we wear, you know, being in this place.

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Man, uh, so the NCBAA, I was I was gonna say this earlier. Um, they're having their conference down here in Carolina Beach in August. Cannot wait. When is that? August? August 21st, I believe. Um the band's playing there. Which band? My band.

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Oh, your band.

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Yep. Salty Southern band, baby.

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Where'd you get that name?

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Huh. From I wonder where we're from. This shirt over here. Um, but ladies and gentlemen, I had, you know, I I I the cat's out the bag now with him with Chad over here. Uh I told him not too long ago because I had to, but I have nominated Chad for the North Carolina Bell Agent Association Hall of Fame.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Ooh, hold on, hold on. Old guy, old guy. Yay! Thank you, thank you, thank you very

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much. I'm in nominated, I mean I get it.

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Uh, you'll get it.

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I get about guarantee you you'll get it.

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Um, so yes, I nominated him uh for that. So and in in that, I've got to write a little you know speech. I don't know what the hell AI, yes. But AI, but here's the thing about AI, man. They don't really know AI don't know me. Don't know you like I know you. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Yeah, I was just kidding about the AI, man.

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But it, I mean, I'll I'm I'm gonna put some of it. I I don't know, man. I've got a it's gonna be a difficult one to write.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

Okay.

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Because there's so much I could put in there to, you know, so much time. You know, all right. I don't want to go, I don't want to go up there and do like a 10 minute.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

We're talking about me now. Let's talk about something else.

SPEAKER_04 29:34

Oh, okay. Hey, but it's okay, man. Um it's all good. So uh the next episode, man. I really want to do uh that the the guy I got with Sal up in Greensboro. He was wanted out of uh Greenville, out of Pitt County. ECU racist, uh he the rapist. Rapist, yeah. He uh he was roofing a bunch of girls. Oh and man, it dude is a wild, wild story. So I would love to do that here. So y'all know what's up next time.

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Keep tuned, stay tuned. Uh but other than that, uh we're done here, man. Yep, yep, that was cool. Well, guys, we love you. We meant it. I'm Rob. I'm Chad and see you later, bro.

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