Is Costa Rica A Good Place To Retire? Stacey Tries To Hide Under A Bed

The wild part about bail bonds work is how fast a normal day turns into a real-world search problem. One minute we’re talking about what TikTok is feeding our brains, gas price mood swings, and why people treat football like an escape. The next minute we’re walking you through a $20,000 bond forfeiture in Sampson County, North Carolina and making the call on when it’s time to go through the door.

Along the way, we hit the lighter stuff that still says a lot about life right now: travel algorithm dreams like Costa Rica, Belize, Greece, and St. Thomas, plus the idea of slowing down and living somewhere simpler once retirement hits. We also talk about the constant drip of politics into everything, including election integrity and voter ID debates, and why so many people just want their downtime back without getting lectured by the world.

Then we get into the main story, step by step, from pulling paperwork at the courthouse to coordinating with a deputy, checking addresses, and moving carefully inside a trailer that’s clearly been overwhelmed by drug use. We talk safety, what you look for, what clues matter, and the moment a “nobody’s home” situation turns into a successful pickup. We wrap with thoughts on how bail laws and court decisions can swing hard over time and why it feels like compromise is disappearing.

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Transcript

Cold Open And Language Debate

SPEAKER_02 0:37

What's up, guys? Rob here. Turn me back on. Turn me home, boy. Turn me home. Always forget to hit that button.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

Maybe I'm retarded. Speaking of that, I was just reading a story on uh the word retard making a comeback. It's a true story. Does anybody know the actual meaning of retarding?

SPEAKER_02 1:02

Make a definition.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Don't get on butt. Not slang your, you know, you're politically correct or whatever. So we're gonna read you. The verb retard literally means to slow, delay, hinder, or impede progress. I know a lot of people. I know a lot of retards. I know a lot of them. Make America say retard again. Without people getting butthurt. That would be great. Oh man. Anyway, what else?

SPEAKER_02 1:33

I know I've said I've said it a few times. I've been like, you can't say that word. I'm like, why not? And they're like, we've it's offensive. I'm like, well, you are retarded, so I mean you're impeding progress. You know, you're you're in the way. Oh man. Uh we gotta amazing. All right. So moving on from retard. Uh good start. Yeah, good start. Want to hear more?

Sponsor Shoutout And Conference Plans

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Oh, so we got a big gotta say a big thank you to somebody, our sponsors, bankers, and ncba. Hey, hey, we gotta say hey to you guys because we have it. But next Friday is the conference down in Carolina Beach.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

Oh, okay, cool. So you guys, hopefully y'all be down there. I don't know if I'm gonna be there, but Rob apparently is.

SPEAKER_02 2:20

Yeah, yeah. The band's playing. The Salty Southern Band. We're playing down at the conference. It's gonna be fun. We're only playing for a couple hours. Our set's usually three hours, so um that's cool. Two hours is fine by me, but we're playing inside, thank God, because I don't know if I could play outside right now. It is hot, man. Right. It's been it's been it's a scorcher, but we've had some good rain, so it's kind of Yeah, we have. Uh that's helped out for sure. All right, so dude, all right. Did you

TikTok Finds And Pop Culture Spiral

SPEAKER_02 2:48

see? I don't know. I've been on tick like on TikTok, and dude, I love my algorithm right now. It doesn't show any politics, it's showing like some of the funny shit in the world. Did you see Brittany Spears? Have you seen it? Dude, she's gone fucking cray cray for sure. Like she's out there.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

She's been she's been out there for a while, man. When she first shaved her head, man. That was that was your first clue. Dude, she's lost it, bro.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Oh man. I saw that, dude. I I and I just I just looked like, where in the hell did Hit Me Baby one more time lose her noggin, bro?

SPEAKER_01 3:23

She just she got hit one many, too many times. Maybe she's retarded. See how we did that? Looped that back around. It made sense.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Oh, shoot. Oh, okay. All

Dreaming About Costa Rica And Islands

SPEAKER_02 3:40

right. So speaking of TikToks here, I got something written down here. Okay. Oh God, I'm about to cry over here. All right. So uh my algorithm got to go back to it a little bit. Um about living in other countries, like Costa Rica, Belize, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

I get those islands. Uh I right now I've got um, I forget what what part of Costa Rica, but like that in Florida, for some reason, there's evidently there's a part of Florida where like there's so much, so many houses and the sales, the the market is like flooded there. But um, yeah, all these places like in Costa Rica that you can buy a house for like a hundred and twenty thousand gets you this much house. Yeah, right, right, right. You know, that kind of thing. And like, yeah, I'm always curious to look at it. Like, it'd be cool to have a like a summer home or right.

SPEAKER_02 4:27

Well, that's my my my plan is is once to re you know, once Heather retires, is us to actually live in the islands during the winter and you know and try and just starts start slowly going there. Uh but I we've been looking at I think we're gonna do St. Thomas because you can get in and out of there easy with you know with flights. But uh Costa Rica is not off the not off the map neither, you know. But I I think it's pretty cool how you can go to other countries and just your your way of life is simple though. It's not like it is here, right? It slows down completely. So it's it's kind of nice. I I'm I like seeing the algorithms. And then I got I'm then I'm seeing algorithms of Greece coming up and all the kind of cool places that to go see there. I can't wait to go see the ancient ruins and stuff like that. Right. That's gonna be fun. All right. Uh

Football As An Escape Hatch

SPEAKER_02 5:20

football season. It's back, it's coming back. It's it's starting back up. You uh you excited?

SPEAKER_01 5:27

Not really.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

Not really.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

No, it's not my thing. And I just think I said when they nail, I'm out. Yeah, I watched the Super Bowl. That's about it.

SPEAKER_02 5:36

I think that's I think I'm I'm hoping that they're kind of getting away from that mess because it was just I didn't watch it for a long time. But now since, you know, it's kind of like the craziness has like stopped so much. I kinda I like watching it.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

I think people are addicted to it and it's something to do. You know, I think that's the bottom line.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

Well, that's the whole thing, like even with concerts or uh um or any sports thing, whatever, right? You you you go watch it to to get away from all the crap that you hear, and it then and if it's being pushed in your little like your outlet, right uh it's not fun anymore. Yeah. So I'm glad to see so far so good that that it's not gone crazy anymore. And

Gas Prices And The EV Tradeoff

SPEAKER_02 6:25

what about the damn gas prices, man? I mean, they they're bipolar as hell, man. Have you been noticing them?

SPEAKER_01 6:31

I I don't really notice them too much. I ride by and I'm like, oh, that's how much it is. I'm in EV. But um yeah, I mean I have noticed that it kind of goes up and down. Yeah. I don't know by how much. Like, I don't know. It's I don't know what's going on over there with the gas.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

There was like a 40 cent difference in like within a week. Like it's the same gas that was that's in the tank under the ground. Like, I don't I don't understand it. These these gas companies are making billions and billions of dollars in profit. And I mean, Trump's even said that he's not happy with it. Yeah. So I mean, I mean, why do we have to keep paying high high gas prices?

SPEAKER_01 7:17

And I know you're in an EV and no, I'm not, I'm not like boasting on that. That was a different decision. That was a decision, you know, because it made more sense for not to drive a big ass truck downtown, you know, and uh I can ride something that's more efficient and keep miles off my truck. You know, I still like my truck, but it's so damn big. And uh but I I love my truck still.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

Yeah, uh well, I mean, I love mine, but God almighty, I'm so sick and tired of filling the damn thing. I gotta fill it up again. I just did it.

unknown 7:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

And then it's 80 bucks every time.

unknown 7:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:55

Right now. I don't even want to talk about my diesel. Oh my god. I think it takes forever. You stand there for 20 minutes filling up, going, God, is that what are we done yet?

Politics Talk And Voter ID Debate

SPEAKER_02 8:07

Oh, so oh did you see where AOC's running for president? Yeah. She wants to run for president. Please do. Do it, do it, do it, please.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Please. That would be the end of the Democratic. Democrats, guys, guys, you got nothing, man. I mean, who who have somebody you know, kind of sense? Kind of right of the left this you're way out there in the left field. Yeah, Bill Maher don't like it. I mean, come back toward the center, and you'll probably get a lot more response, I would think. You might even convert some conservatives. I don't know. I don't know. If you if you had somebody that was more toward just a little bit over from the center, not way the freaking out left field. Right. You know? But you got you got crazy lunatic people, man. And like, I don't know what's going on. I keep seeing elections in different states, and they're, you know, getting uh punjod or not, no, that's a that's an Indian name, sorry. Um a uh there you go, right? Yeah, I mean it's a Muslim person thing. I I do not trust them at all. I don't. I don't there's nothing you can say to change you know my mind.

SPEAKER_02 9:21

Well, you know, Kamala Harris did a speaking of TikTok grills, I saw something come across and she was like, the Save Act is going to require people when they register to vote, require people who they are. I'm like, okay. I had Donald Trump retweeted that, that same video. I mean it that I mean it's it's crazy. Yeah. Like we won't, we would I don't know about you, but I like in election integrity.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Yeah. It'd be great if we can, you know, actually believe what results are what.

SPEAKER_02 9:54

I'm I'm curious uh if this everything goes through and you have to require ID to vote. I'm curious to see what the election is gonna show. The Democrats are going crazy because I think this is this is my thought. If it goes it passes through and you gotta have an ID to vote, when the next time they're gonna vote, the map's gonna be a lot different than what it what it usually is.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

Wouldn't that be something? Um Yeah, I mean why not? Why not? I mean, what's what's wrong with having an ID to vote, man? You gotta have an ID, you gotta you gotta have a license to fish.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

You should have a license to have a kid.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Yeah, that's true. You should. Anybody can have a kid, which is sad.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

Uh um yeah, I can tell you that one from experience.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

Um but anyway, um moving along.

SPEAKER_02 10:53

Uh that

The Mystery Monkey Sighting

SPEAKER_02 10:54

I the only thing I got left, man, is this damn monkey man.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Did you see the I don't know how I mean I I I searched out a little bit before we got got on here, and there was back in 2024 43 monkeys that escaped from a place. It was a research place in in South Carolina, and I saw that later that year, almost a year later, January from February, January, um they're all they recovered all four. But here's the thing. All right, so they were all female.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

I saw the TikTok also where the guy was like, hey man, I'm in southeastern North Carolina, and dude, I'm on a river with my daughter, and I saw this monkey and he showed the video of the monkey. Right, right. And I'm like, okay, so are they lying to us saying they didn't get all the monkeys?

SPEAKER_01 11:41

Well, if you you only got female monkeys, you gotta have male if you're gonna like have offspring, right? Right. So I don't know the life expectancy.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

Unless they found some monkey, unless they found some redneck in uh Rosen County, I can Lumbas County.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

One of the counties that'd be one retarded monkey. There's that word again.

SPEAKER_02 12:04

I love it. Did we just trigger somebody?

SPEAKER_01 12:09

Impeding progress. It fits. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

So oh, that was a good one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Um, yeah, the the whole yeah, I don't know about the monkey thing, but yeah, I did see that video. The guy's literally, he like has a video and there's he's going along the water of a river, I think it is.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

Yeah, I want to say it's somewhere like near here, like here in Brunson County.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Yeah, maybe. But I mean, our weather you would think could support a monkey. Right now it could. But the month, well, the winter month we had was very harsh this year. So I don't know. I don't know, man. You know, I looked up like uh what was AI said that it's not conducive for monkeys to live in our area for cold winters. So I don't know if that's real or what that is.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Who knows? If y'all see one, let us know.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

Uh don't be retarded about it though, whatever you do. All right. So

Fugitive Recovery In Sampson County

SPEAKER_02 13:08

on to our story for the week.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Yeah. Let's uh Stacy. Stacy had a drug issue, right?

SPEAKER_02 13:17

Yeah, she did.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

At a Sampson County. At a Samson County. Ain't much up there. That's about two hours from us. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

No, an hour?

SPEAKER_02 13:26

Uh, if that. Yeah, yeah, about an hour.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

Okay, my bad. My bad. An hour.

SPEAKER_02 13:31

Um, and it's right off of I-40. Okay. Um, so it's where Clinton is, that area.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

So it's getting toward Raleigh. Let's just say that. Yeah, but it's halfway, it's halfway between here and Raleigh. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 13:45

Okay. So uh Stacy here um lit lived in a uh uh a trailer uh out in Samson County.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

No way.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

Uh what'd Stacy do for work? Uh well, uh we don't Do we remember?

SPEAKER_02 14:01

I don't think she did it.

SPEAKER_01 14:02

She's not gainfully employed.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

She might be a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Y'all just get a job so you're not in trouble. Yeah. All right. Just get a job and stay out of trouble. Well, I mean tends to be a lot of these stories. Nobody's got a job and they're into trouble. I think she did the world's oldest uh Oh, she was a lady of the night.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

She could have been.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

Could have been.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

I wasn't a hundred percent sure, but she could have been. All right, well the shit we found in the place. Uh man, I'm telling you. All right, so all right, so Stacy, we get this filed. It's a cleanup. Remember that? Remember that bondsman up in the Duplin County area that we had to do all this cleanup for? Like they went out of he went out of business, tall guy from uh Mr. Uh Mr. T was his name.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Yeah, so it was one of his cleanups, right? Okay. So it was a $20,000 bond. So so bankers. Thank you, Shirdy. Thank you. Um they just give me a uh uh a picture. Well, hell they didn't even give me a picture, they just give me a forefeiture and that's it. Good luck. So Sal was with me at the time. Uh speaking of Sal, if you're listening, hey buddy, I don't know where you're at, but hey. Check in with us, dude. Yeah, man. Where you at? He went quiet. He did. Um so and I think Eric was with us too that uh that that day. Okay. And so me and Sal first go down to the courthouse, pull the shuck. We're looking at some of the, you know, the information that we got off of that, and kind of find out there's two different addresses. There's there's one that the forfeiture went to, and there's another that was on all the other stuff. And it was like possession, you know, it's all like theft and obtaining property by false pretense, stuff like that. So we go look at the one with the uh all the stuff that was in the shuck, that's not the address. The address is the actual one on the forfeiture. So I mean it it was it was usually it's the other way around. Oh, really? Yeah, so it's kind of like we were we were like, oh shit, you know, we got we can go in this house. So and it was just her family, and but where she was staying at, it was on a forfeiture. I don't know if she like gave the wrong address or whatever when she got arrested. She could have been high. Hell, she may even be retarded.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

So see the word of the day. Yeah, word of the day is retarded.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

So we go to we we go to this house. Use it correctly, people, and we're we're we're actually sitting in a field across the street down the road, kind of eyeballing it, just to see if we see any movement. Right. Because we talk we we got in touch with a uh a deputy, deputy knows who they are, who her boyfriend was, gave us a description of what the car is and the whole nine. Well, the car wasn't there that we were looking for. There was nobody there, and we had sit there for hours looking at this place. Fun. And the deputy was like, hey man, go try it out. She's probably she might be in there, he might be working, blah, blah, blah. Who knows? You know, he probably paints houses. You know, that's easy to do, right? Right. So, of course, we don't have much to go off of. So we're, you know, we're kind of calling it, you know, I'm talking with Sal and Eric, and we're all both like, all right, let's go hit the house. All right, cool, let's hit the house. Eric, take the back door. Me and Sal take the front.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

And so we we pull up.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

Gotta put stuff in the way in the back. Oh, yeah. That's what I do.

SPEAKER_02 17:43

Eric's back there.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put tricycles and chairs and shit that you're gonna stumble over if you try to come running out of the back door. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

And so we're everybody's in place. I gotta start knocking on the door. Yeah. And nobody's nobody's answering. There's nobody, there's nobody in there, there's no animals in there. It's quiet. So I'm like, man, we we don't have anything else. This is the address on file. So we call the deputy. We're taking our time. You can go in, right? Yeah, yeah, we can go in. So we're taking our time. And I we call the deputy. Hey, deputy, we're not getting any answer. This is the only address that we have that we can have the rights to go into. We're letting you know we're going in. He was like, all right, cool, no problem.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

Dude, Samson County is awesome. Heck yeah, go in there. Yeah. What's up?

SPEAKER_02 18:37

So I start beating on door. Hey, Bell Bondsman, if you don't open up, I'm gonna kick the door in. You know, simple as that, right? Right, right. I mean, we verify everything, we let the cops know. Because this is the last thing you want to do is kick a door because you don't know what's behind that door. That's right. You don't know what's going on. Right. So I I keep hit, I'm like, if you're in there, please open up because this door is coming down. And it's a trailer door. So it ain't it ain't hard to get. Yeah. Nothing. So I'm like, all right, last warning. Give her the last warning. I open open the screen door. I'm like, all right, here we go. I kicked it once, the thing flies open. It's all dented up. The smell, oh my god. Dog shit and burnt styrofoam is what it sounded like. Smell like the name. Sound like burnt styrofoams from the crack. Crack, yeah. Remember when we were in the Myrtle Beach and we that it smell like just like so we go in, we start looking, and there, I mean, we we check all the rooms, nothing. But on the couch, I f I find this on the couch, I find her purse with all her stuff in it. Phone is in there and everything. So I'm like, I'm looking through the file. I we got a phone number, so I call the phone number and it and it's ringing. I'm like, all right, she's not leaving her purse and cell phone right anywhere, just anywhere. I would not leave that. Yeah. So I'm like, she's in this house somewhere. We got to find it. Man, we went into the kitchen. There was used needles all over the the the this um this island. You guys have gloves? Oh yeah, dude. Okay, oh yeah, dude. As soon as I kicked the door, I was like, God almighty, we smelled we we gloved up. Yeah. And I was like, hey Sal, Eric, you guys watch where you step, watch where you touch, everything because it's I mean, it's that bad. Yeah. Because one bedroom, it's like the dogs, that's where the dogs took a shit at. Just in this one bedroom. It's bad. Like, I don't know how in the hell people live like this.

SPEAKER_03 20:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

It's it's that that just shows you how much drugs will alter your mind. Put up with that, absolutely. It was it was horrible.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

So what so what you're doing?

SPEAKER_02 20:59

So all right, so we're looking and uh oh dude, we have looked everywhere. I was like, have y'all looked under the bed? And we're in the bedroom. I'm like, have y'all looked under the bed? They're like, Yeah, we've looked under the bed. Man, I there's so much shit everywhere. You know, you you're you're turning stuff over, you're trying to look for. I'm like, man, I said, let's look under this bed again. And well, first, before we do that, I'm like, Sal, let's just stand still for a minute. Let's let's listen. He's like, all right. Right, right. So you're kind of looking for, you're listening for anything going on. You know, any breathing, movement, whatever. But dude, I you know her asshole was puckered, but we're in the bedroom where she's at. Uh-huh. She's and she's tugged up. She's a little girl. She's she's tucked all the way up towards the wall. And she's got herself covered up. That's why when they looked under, they didn't see nothing. That's what that amateurs. So I said, you know what? I said, I said, we're gonna have to I and I'm calling out, going, hey, if you're in here. You best let yourself known because we are armed, because we don't know what she's got. We don't know what she's got knife. Yeah, we don't know what she's got. So I'm like, all right, Sal, let's lift the bed up. So we lift the when we lift the bed up, we lift the bed up. Like, and she's fucking balled up. She's balled up over there and she's looking at us. I said, get your ass out of there. Come on, let's go. And she was being really slow, like I don't know if she was fucked up or what. But Sal got like we grab her and like get her.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

So she was being retarded. Yeah, she's being retarded. She was impeding progress. Okay. So see, you can put it in almost any sentence. Yeah, right. It applies to a lot of things. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

Um, so we get her out and we get her in cuffs, and we're like, hey, why don't you just come to the damn door? Now you got a busted up front door. But evidently you don't give a shit about the house because you got the dog shit. You got dog shit in another room. I was like, this place is horrible. Let's get out of here. Just get out of here. So we walk outside. You want to hang out for a while? I didn't want to hang out. It's hot too now. It's summer office. Dude, I'm telling you. I'm trying to paint you a really good picture though.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Yeah, yeah. We get the idea, the drift of what's going on. It's not, it's not nice.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

No, I don't think they had air conditioning either. So we go outside and we call the deputy. Hey, we have her in custody. Um, you can come get her. Because they because up there they're like, hey, if you get her, just let us know we'll send a deputy out to come pick her up from you. Right. So we don't have to, you know, dude, they're so good to work with up there. I love working with them. Like anywhere else, like here, up there, perfect.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

Right. Yeah, it's amazing you go to certain places and the help you get or don't get.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Yeah, that's weird. Yeah. Alaska was like, hey, we we can't help you, but if you need us, call us.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

I was like, We'll be around, but we can't actually help. And you know, and that and I understood that. Yeah, yeah, you know what? They were amazed that we went there.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

Yeah, they were like, I can't believe y'all were here. I'm like, why not? He goes, nobody ever comes up here and gets them. It's 50,000.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

I mean, it's worth the trip.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

It's worth the trip, hell yeah. I don't know that damn plane ride. You were like, Oh, God, I don't like this shit. Yeah, it was that was rough, man.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

When there at night, leaving uh where were we from Minneapolis, going flying over those mountains or whatever, and like, God.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

That the turbulence was horrible.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Uh that was some of the worst turbulence I've ever been in. I did not have a good time. We were in the back of the plane pretty much.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

Yeah, pretty much. We were bouncing up and down by there.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

I didn't like it. I was making deals with God, just please.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

Yeah, well, and I remember you talking about, hey man, is this you like this? And she's like, Yeah. So I was like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

I need some reassurance. I was not happy with my life choice at that moment.

SPEAKER_02 24:55

All right, so back to Stacey here. All right, so that deputy comes out and he's like, uh, you know, he's doing his thing, he's getting her, and uh he puts her in the car, he comes back, he goes, Man, thanks, guys. We've been looking for her for a while. And I was like, what's up? He goes, man, he goes, What y'all find in that house? I was like, dude, you don't want to know. I was like, we found this, this, this, this, this. He goes, all right, I'll let I'm gonna let let Narcs know because the boyfriend is like on probation and on the run from him. I was like, man, goddamn folks you gotta work in here, like you're you're working with here. I mean, retarded. Typical.

SPEAKER_01 25:33

Well, yeah, retarded. There you go. You can use it again. I mean, that's that's the situation. I mean, you it sounds like a pretty cut and dry like place where freaking drugs are being done, and uh those who sell them are probably there too. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

We just we just looked up that day and she was actually there. And like usually it don't happen like that, but we just looked up that day, which is which is great. And now it's $20,000 off the books at no cost to the taxpayers.

Bail Changes And System Frustrations

SPEAKER_02 26:01

You're welcome. You're welcome. But have you noticed, you know, with the bonds lately, Chad, at you know, when the the the Lulu left was in office? Well, it was it was wide open, just let everybody go. And now the pendulum has swung all the way to the right, and now it's just it's harder for people to get out because of that new Irena's law.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

Yeah, well, we could point one particular case out in Wake County.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

Yeah, yeah, we could, but it's an ongoing case. I don't want to talk too much about it. But I mean it's it's stupid. Like, I don't understand why I don't understand why we can't come to a compromise in the middle. And I talked to one of the managers uh here in New Hanover County about it, and she she felt the same way. And I was like, oh wow, I can't believe she felt that way. You know which one it is. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

That is surprising.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Yeah, that was surprising. And so, man, it's just there's no more compromise anymore. And I and that's a whole nother reason why I think my algorithm algorithm is showing me to go move somewhere else, which I'm like, I'm down with it, but I I can't right now. I want to.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

Yeah, I wish we could talk about that one, but we can't. I mean, I guess not, but I mean you you're you're supposed to have the right to fail, right? You know, within reason.

SPEAKER_02 27:23

And and the and they're and they're using the criminal justice system the wrong way up there for that one in particular case. And that and people do that a lot. They use the uh the court system uh to get back at people. I I know a hundred percent for a fact about that. Uh but it's bad, man. I I don't I don't like it. I'm sick of it. I I just want to go write my bonds, go home, and cut some trees. That's it. That's it. That's all I want to do.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Right. Well, that's typically the way we do it, and we make sure they get there. You know, that's what we do.

Final Takeaways And Sign-Off

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Well, that's another great episode. Don't be retarded. That is the word of the day. Try it. Yeah. Try saying it, but put it in a good context. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Say I I love you. You might be retarded, but I love you. Oh, man.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

It deserves a comeback.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

It does, man. I'm telling you, but I'm I'm gonna help bring it back. I'm gonna help it. All right, guys. Well, that's another wonderful episode. Until then, I am Rob. I'm Chad. Well, how about you later?

SPEAKER_01 28:36

See ya.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

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