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Stewart In The Studio E11 - Risks and Unknowns Behind Title Alternatives
Looking ahead, we explore the future of risk management and how it can shape a more efficient and secure business environment. TJ provides a compelling analysis of how past manufacturing processes influence today's global business landscape and underscores the necessity of continuous innovation in mitigating risks like fraud and wire prevention. This episode also critiques the short-sighted approach of some cost-cutting measures and emphasizes the importance of a uniform data set and robust partnerships in anti-money laundering efforts. Get ready for an enlightening discussion that promises to equip you with insights to navigate and improve the title industry’s challenging terrain.
Government entities are trying to reduce loan origination costs for borrowers. Stewart's own TJ Harrington examines the risks and unknowns behind title alternatives and also looks at some of the challenges that need to be addressed before wider adoption. From the Stewart headquarters in Houston, Texas, USA, it's Stewart in the studio. We're live in 3, 2, 1. And we're on the air, we're live in three, two, one.
Speaker 2:And we're on the air. So welcome TJ. You were featured last week on the TMC Rundown as really the featured guest, talking about how title and government entities are trying to reduce costs. Can you talk about the progress the title industry has made to date and maybe what's holding back further savings?
Speaker 3:Thanks, marvin. I think we're all feeling the pain in the real estate market right now. Affordability is as big a concern as it ever has been. Rates are high. Price appreciation continues to be driven up. I think we're all looking for ways to make the transactions less expensive for consumers. You see the GSEs looking at title alternatives and waiver programs. You see FHFA opening the box for programs trying to make it have more availability of credit overall. You have VA and FHA looking at their particular programs, trying to find ways to reduce the guarantee fees or other insurance as best they can.
Speaker 3:I think we're all digging deep to try and find ways to reduce costs. It's our responsibility as an industry to do that for the consumer, in that we are responsible for the American dream. That's what we march on every day and is so important to us. In the title world, I think we've seen innovation that has outpaced inflation and evidence of that We've seen premiums reduce in real dollars, I think in 35, 36 percent going back to 2018. What has driven that has been the more use of title data, expansion of plans, the use of title engines with credit data. That has driven efficiencies. We've seen the rise of e-sign and e-closings and e-recordings, helping with post-close inefficiencies in the escrow process and overall, that has driven consumer costs down.
Speaker 3:What we are still stuck with is the fact that there's 3,300 counties nationally, with every recorder's office having their own system, their own data sets, their own way of classifying documents.
Speaker 3:There's not uniformity in data standards the way that there is in MISMO. So ultimately, we are normalizing that data to make it actionable, which is expensive and time-consuming. I think we're doing our best with that and the data sets are getting better, but ultimately that balkanization, the fractionalization of data, makes it difficult. We also see a rise in fraud. We see a rise in concerns around money laundering things that we're having to implement in the title industry to prevent those risks. So ultimately, we are innovating as fast as we can, we're beating out inflation, but the risks keep rising, and so it's one of those things where we are doing our best to drive efficiencies and we'll continue to do so, but in the meantime, it's going to be getting more data uniformity, getting a uniform data set, getting blockchain, whatever form it might take in the future from a record standpoint. Being able to use prior records, I think, is the key to it.
Speaker 2:So then you talked about the risks and unknowns behind some of the alternative title products. Where did you land on that?
Speaker 3:So really when we talk about alternative title products and process, we're talking about waivers and AOLs, and I appreciate the pain in housing. Everyone's trying to innovate in our space, trying to find consumer benefit, lower costs and really do something different where they can be appropriate for a waiver or fine savings in an AOL. There's unintended consequences to that. I think we looked at first in the waiver scenario where you kind of skim the cream, the least risky, the files where maybe it was recently purchased home in the last two to five years. What you end up doing there is adversely selecting for the rest of the pool. So today we average cost out all of our files for curative, for the hard costs and the work being done, and when you remove the least risky files you ultimately increase costs for everybody else. That's the way insurance works. You see that in risk allocated pools from anywhere from car insurance to flood insurance. When you have a broader pool you have better pricing for everybody. So it's kind of a beggar, that neighbor. The other risk specifically around the waivers is that it's going to be a data-driven decision somewhere up the chain prior to a full search actually being done and as a result of that you're going to have the availability of a waiver in the most affluent, data-rich areas, which means you're not helping the consumers that you want to help.
Speaker 3:Really, the idea behind the waiver was can we reach down and lift people up who need the help?
Speaker 3:If you're relying on waivers, ultimately that goes to the most affluent Americans and I don't think that's where we're intending to drive the help For AOLs.
Speaker 3:Really, when you look at rate structures across the country, in a large majority of states you have the centralized quote unquote bucket rates, as we call them where you have your tiered rates, where it's a flat fee in a certain tranche of loan size or purchase amount, and for the most part, those bucket rates are competitively priced in many scenarios less expensive than an attorney opinion letter and when you remove title from the equation, you may be introducing risk or expense to the equation that you may not have been counting. Florida, for example, requires the participation of an attorney for the closing and escrow when title is not being written, speaking with attorneys in the state of an attorney for the closing and escrow when title is not being written. Speaking with attorneys in the state of Florida, they would be charging an amount for closing that would be even higher than what it would be with title insurance. So it's one of those things where I think there's room for innovation. We're driving it the right way. We just have to be aware of the unintended consequences of making a change.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about the most important person in the entire transaction, which is the consumer. And you know, keeping in mind that most consumers are not experts in protecting their property rights, how should consumers be protected through the various products that are available today?
Speaker 3:Okay, Marvin, it's a great point. We've seen a rise in fraud. We've seen vacant lot fraud. We've seen seller impersonation fraud. You see the stories in the news today. Really part of our job walk-in. You can walk in and record almost anything. You present it for recording.
Speaker 3:As long as it meets the requirements, ultimately it'll be put on the public record and there's not really a strong filter to protect the consumer or the homeowner or anybody from the effect of those public records. There's a common law cause of action called slander of title, and so just the existence of that means records. There's a common law cause of action called slander of title, and so just the existence of that means that that is a thing that happens. People put things of record for whatever reason that ultimately impact the ability to buy, sell, mortgage, whatever a property. And part of our role in the title transaction, whether it be on the purchase side or on a refi, we curate those records. We do curative work, we clean the records as we go to ensure ease of transaction for the future. I think about a lot of the advertisements to see if they're title lock and other things like that. Ultimately those aren't effective. I think it's more. They'll let you know, but there's not a lot that they can actually do for you.
Speaker 3:As far as curative goals, and ultimately the recourse is a title policy and it's one of those things where it's a low frequency because we do a nice job curating the records.
Speaker 3:You know, historically the claims have been between two and 4% because title is preventative medicine and that curative steps that we take ultimately reduce the risk on the end and the expense that we have in the title world is that effort and is that curation. So I would tell you that the structure of the world today and the way that we do business focused around title and future transactions, are kind of dependent on the existence of that manufacturing process that happened previously. To make sure that we're sanctified, going forward, and where risk exists, we keep innovating as professionals to prevent those risks. There's things that we're doing in fraud prevention. There's things that we're doing in wire prevention. We are an important partner for any money laundering. I think we do our part. So I don't know that the other alternative products anticipate those kinds of future-looking solutions. I think they're very focused on today and attacking costs without being mindful of the future.
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