The Clutter Conversations
A podcast for anyone who has ever dealt with clutter, personally or professionally.
The Clutter Conversations
Achieving Quick Wins in Home Organization: Practical Tips and Real-Life Stories
Ever feel like your home organization projects are endless and overwhelming? What if we told you that you could achieve significant progress with just a few simple steps? In this episode of Clutter Conversations, we focus on achieving quick wins in home organization without the need for large-scale overhauls. By aligning your vision with reality through a practical four-step process, we show you how to tackle smaller, manageable projects—like organizing your Tupperware and food storage containers—to gain a gratifying sense of accomplishment in a short amount of time.
Join us as we share a humorous and relatable discussion about the common struggle of missing container lids, complete with a funny anecdote involving a soap mishap in a teen's room. We transition to practical tips on preparing to purchase new food storage containers and the benefits of breaking down large household projects into smaller, more manageable tasks. Listen in as Jason recounts his experience with reorganizing a single drawer, and Katie emphasizes the importance of personalizing spaces to suit your needs. This episode is packed with practical advice and real-life stories that will inspire you to make functional and well-organized changes to your home environment.
For more information or to schedule a FREE consult call with Katie, be sure to check out KCH Organizers!
Welcome to the Clutter Conversations, a podcast for anyone who's ever dealt with clutter personally or professionally. My name is Katie Hochschauer and I'm your host. Today is a good day for a quick win. What do you guys think? So I was chatting with Jason after dinner one night and he was like you know, you do all these projects and they're like big scale stuff, and what about the little projects that aren't, where we have to bring someone in to work on this massive garage project or overhauling the entire kitchen? What are some of the quick wins that we can do, and how can we equip our listeners to be able to do those things on their own?
Speaker 2:Oh, you just asked the question for me, so I was just assuming I didn't need to be here.
Speaker 1:But you're so pretty to look at.
Speaker 2:No, that's true, we were talking about it. And uh, for those of you that uh don't follow on the the facebook page, which is where can we find out on the facebook page?
Speaker 1:the clutter conversation we have a wonderful group, that we continue the conversation on facebook, and we'd love to have you there, you go.
Speaker 2:Well, if you're not there, you're not aware, as we are recording this, you are, as you're listening to this. Rather, you are now wing winging your way back from europe on a an alumni choir trip. Yes, right, so you've. You've done all the work leading up to this and I thought, well, I know that we we need to do another episode before you leave. So, in the spirit of running out of time and needing to do something quickly, I thought, well, a quick win for the listener would be a great idea. Summer as this airs. Summer is here, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, and my least favorite season, by the way. Summer is here, not because kids are home, it's just too hot. Anyway, what are some things that that people can do? When they look around their house, they think, ok, I want to try and tackle some stuff on my own before I call in the big guns, if you will.
Speaker 2:I am called the big guns. Like freakishly often, I'm going to, I'm going to let that one roll right on down the road.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have to think about what I just said. That's fine.
Speaker 2:When I listen back, I'm so used to doing a police and fire EMS podcast, but that's not what this is, I know. But I'm just saying, okay, anyway, great, stay in this podcast. I am in this podcast. What is something you know when you look around your house and you think, okay, I've got a couple of months of summertime before kids go back to school. I've got extra hands that can help me tackle a project. Maybe it's a kid's bedroom or a bathroom or something that can involve everybody. More hands make light work, right. What kind of steps can I come up with if I'm the dad who's got 10 days with kids? Don't get this in your head. I'm not going to be tackling any projects. I'll be working. But if I were to fulfill that role, that fantasy of yours, if you will.
Speaker 1:I am, I'm fantasizing about it right, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do I need to do to get from this whole list of things I want to accomplish to what? A? Which one should I choose? B what steps do I I do to maximize the, the time that I have, and what would be the? And this might be a case-by-case basis, but what might be the best project to tackle in a small amount of time?
Speaker 1:Specifically with children, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2:Why not? Because I mean they're home right.
Speaker 1:Sure, they're home, but I mean it's like eating Oreos at the dentist's office. Sometimes it's an uphill battle, even with the children home.
Speaker 2:And not everybody has their kids at home. They could be flown the coop or what have you?
Speaker 1:It's entirely possible, but what I teach people is this four step process that can apply whether you're working with a child, or you're working by yourself, or you're working with a professional. So when I come into a session as a professional organizer, I've already chatted with the client about what their vision for their home is. Often you'll hear me telling people that my job as a professional organizer is to help your vision and your reality align without being too traumatic, and that's my purpose in this project.
Speaker 2:Okay, let me interrupt you real quick, then. Yeah, their vision and the reality. So that's what you said, right? Yep, that could be a podcast episode all on its own. How? How do you bridge that gap between what my expectations are and the reality of a situation? I'm sure you've had clients where you're like, oh sweetie Well.
Speaker 1:I really love that you use the word expectation, because that's what this four-step process is. They have this vision for their lives. They know that something just doesn't feel right, something is out of alignment, something is not in sync, and so when we introduce this four-step process which really I don't like, it's not okay. Now we're on step one, now we're on step two. Client, let's go dancing down the yellow brick road or anything. But my approach is this four-step process which I'm going to be sharing today. So they've already come to me with this vision of. I know my vision and my life don't align. That is what our discovery calls are first about. That's what a lot of our coaching calls are about. Something is amiss and I need help, okay. So let's talk about a small tackle. Let's talk about a smaller project. A great example is your Tupperware, okay. Your food storage containers, the lids, the containers themselves, those that category, okay.
Speaker 2:So you're that's like. I would think of that as like a micro project, yep, something you can knock out in you know half hour.
Speaker 1:But here's the thing is that there's a micro project in your silverware drawer. There's a micro project in your Tupperware drawer. There's a micro project in your Tupperware drawer. There's a micro project in your appliance, small appliances. There's one in your dishes and coffee cups. Oh, my goodness, gracious coffee cups.
Speaker 2:But all those things together make up a huge project.
Speaker 1:Exactly so if you want to start making movement, moving the needle in a direction that you are happier with. You approach it from these smaller perspectives. When you hire professionals, we pull everything out. My associate, amy, likes to say everything fluffs up when we pull everything out. So you're like I had that much stuff in my kitchen cabinet. When you lay it all out on the dining room table or the kitchen counter, it is humbling sometimes to see how much stuff we can put in there and things get shoved back. So first of all, I keep saying that first step is they have a vision. I help clarify that vision and sometimes that happens during a coaching call. Sometimes that happens during an in-person session where we're like okay, so how do you want this room to function? Do we actually bake a lot with our kids when they're home for the summer, or is that like? I'd really like to be able to bake? But is my real estate most valuable in having a huge baking station? Right, the Pillsbury Doughboy I'm sure has a big baking station I couldn't think of.
Speaker 1:Mrs Fields, yeah, I'm sure Mrs Fields has a huge baking section in her kitchen. I know that she's a fictional character. Guys, I'm not an idiot. But when you think about, if I entertain a lot, do I need a bunch of platters if I never entertain? And coming out of COVID that was a really big deal was people were like I want to be able to entertain so I'm going to craft my life, I envision my life having these things that will accommodate that. What I do try to encourage people to do is to not just envision and live in this like rose-colored glasses kind of life, but really be realistic and part of it. And it comes back to that entertaining portion of things. If you in your heart of hearts you want to entertain but your family lives very far away and they never come over, or you have one child that has maybe a friend come over. We're not having big dinner parties. We maybe don't drink a lot of wine, so we don't need 12 wine glasses, even though they came from the Art and Wine Festival and they're a perfectly good wine glass. We should keep those things you don't have to. That's the fun part. You really don't have to. You can actually recycle those things or you can take them to your local donation center and that's okay too. Other people want to use those things, but you don't necessarily have to have those things in your space. Those are the things that are fluffing up. Have to use. Have those things in your space, that's. Those are the things that are fluffing up. So we have already accomplished the vision of what we want.
Speaker 1:In the big picture, we're talking a big kitchen, right, but we're approaching it from those smaller components of the Tupperware drawer or the. I'm going to empty out the silverware drawer and I'm just going to give it a deep clean and I'm going to, you know, make sure that my knives and forks and spoons are all matching. If that's something that's important to you, I'm going to get rid of the kid spoons and nod on straws and maybe we're going to replace those things. Because guess what, guys, you're worth good things. I got to tell you there's a lot of people that I think hold on to things because they think I'm either I'm not worth something better, it's too expensive to replace that thing, but really you're worth a lot of that. You're worth feeling good about opening your silverware drawer and using a straw that is not gnawed on.
Speaker 1:So we've envisioned this project of the big kitchen. We're going to tackle it in those drilled down sections, such as your Tupperware drawer. But then we have to prepare ourselves, and preparation is step number two. We have to make sure we have the tools available to us, and that includes Blowtorch. Oh, sometimes, sometimes, for legal reasons, I am not allowed to use a blowtorch anymore.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's never good when you have policy written about you Right, but I wrote the policy oh yeah, that's a whole other set of problems. Oh, tell me about it.
Speaker 1:No, but we need to prepare ourselves, we need to prepare our schedule. We need to set that time aside that we're going to do this. We need to prepare If we do want to. We know we want to replace all of our food storage containers. I'll tell you, it will make it so much easier for you to organize your food storage containers if you just buy one set that serves a lot of different functions.
Speaker 2:And all matches instead of trying to do the Snapware with the Ziploc, with the yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, Ziploc and Snapware are two different categories. That's a wrap versus a food storage container. They are two different categories, no they make the Zipl storage container.
Speaker 2:They are two different categories.
Speaker 1:No, no, they make the, they make the.
Speaker 2:Ziploc makes, makes content.
Speaker 1:We have them, I know I actually, I really like those ones, the ones that twist on. Okay, so we're preparing ourselves, we are seeing what it is that we're actually going to be using. How do we want it to look? We've already figured out in that envisioning phase and then we've prepared ourselves on our schedule and our family. Maybe, if they are decision makers and you care about their decisions, sometimes, when you're like I'm doing the Tupperware drawer this Saturday, if you have an opinion, just be available for me to ask you questions that's a great way to do this. So you pull everything out, you match up. If you're not just getting rid of the things, you're not just saying I need to start fresh, and sometimes we just need to start fresh and it's an easier, quicker, more reasonable thing to just start fresh with a new set from Costco. I was actually just thinking we have had our Snapware set for not sponsored by Snapware, by the way, I would still take their money but open to it, open to it. I've had this same set for probably 10 years.
Speaker 2:No, yes, it has not been 10 years.
Speaker 1:Yes, it has, I was going to say like six. I mean six is still pretty good. It is, say like six I mean six is still pretty good, it is, it is, but it ain't new.
Speaker 2:let, okay, let's call it in the middle and let's say it's seven and a half. The middle of six and ten is eight.
Speaker 1:I know, but then eight felt like too much, so I was trying to be nice. Okay so, but still many years many years, many years and they, we use them all the time oh.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Constantly Yep. So one of the. I was just thinking that we're starting to like lose lids. It's kind of like socks going into the washer and dryer and they don't come out matched sets, and I hate to say it but I'm totally going to say it. It usually happens when you have children. Because I needed to take this, one of our containers was lost into the world of my teen, the vortex. I want to say that it was homemade soap and it was like this weird gelatinous soap stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, is this Fight Club happening right now?
Speaker 2:We don't talk about fight club such a rule follower there's one rule I know okay.
Speaker 1:So I'm not talking about fight club anymore, but I am talking about the fact that my container was used for this thing anyway.
Speaker 1:So we've atrocity I mean it was like grimace purple it was, I mean I mean whatever. Anyway. So I have to prepare both my family, my budget, to be able to buy this new house set of snapware, if that's what I'm so choosing to do, and I need to pull everything out from my food storage containers and I do suggest that you go hunting and pecking and I call it treasure hunting. Go in your kids rooms, go and find where there might be a spare another set of food storage containers that's. Another bonus of replacing just in its entirety is that if you find an outlier, you're like you're not a part of my group.
Speaker 2:My new we voted you off the island A little bit. You're gone.
Speaker 1:A little bit, but in the spirit of usability and being so many things have good uses past the life of being useful to us, so I don't want to just be like chuck it. That's Jason's opinion, not my opinion. So there are other resources and ways that you can let that thing have new life. So now we are moving on to from the preparation stage, we move on to the executing phase, and that is pulling all of that stuff out and matching up your lids and your containers and evaluating does this one serve a specific purpose that another one doesn't? So I'm going to bring up those Ziploc ones again, because have that nice tight twist-on lid which is great for soups.
Speaker 1:If I'm going to put something in my lunch bag because I do take a lot of lunches to my jobs and stuff and if I'm going to put something in my lunch bag, I want to know that it's going to be able to transport safely and I'm not just going to end up with a big mess when I'm 20 minutes to shove food down my throat. I'm like I don't need to deal with a mess when I'm at work. So you evaluate the things that you have to make sure that they're not redundant, that you're not overlapping various categories. That's why the Snapware containers they come in a certain set where it has the large and the medium and then the short ones, so they all accomplish something different. So to be able to evaluate the things that you have based on the job that they do, and could another thing do the job better than what you have that's how you can approach those decision things that you need. To those decision things, I talk good what are those decision?
Speaker 1:things called honey I call them decluttering decisions, and that's where my brain like.
Speaker 2:They for a little bit.
Speaker 1:Farted on me.
Speaker 2:It happens. Yeah, it does, it does happen.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So once you've done that process of the evaluation during the execute phase and I will tell you that when you pull everything out and it fluffs up that if you were a part of a bigger session we would have multiple of those micro projects happening at the exact same time. We do those things at the same time partially because sometimes we have to relocate something to make better sense. Sometimes we have to move shelves, sometimes we have to add shelves, sometimes we have to remove shelves, we have to move shelves, sometimes we have to add shelves, sometimes we have to remove shelves. So just tackling the decluttering process will make people feel like they're gaining traction, like they're making a difference when they open up that Tupperware drawer. So we've executed, we've done the task. We've asked the questions of okay, do we have these little sauce cups? Does anyone actually use these little sauce cups? I like to do the first decluttering effort first and then I'll have the secondary players. You know, someone else might have an opinion about this and we should ask. Then I have them, come in and is there anything in this? You know, basket or box, whatever it is that we're using to contain those things? Is there anything in this that you know, basket or box, whatever it is that we're using to contain those things. Is there anything in this that you still care about, that you really feel strongly about? Because we have already created a beautiful system based on the basics. I call them the best in the basics. I don't want you to out purge yourself. I want you to have the things that you need to fit when you're looking for some kind of a tool in your life. And Tupperware is a tool. It is a food storage tool. So have those people come in at the end of that execute, unless they're really into it and they want to help make those decisions. It's a great way for kids to learn that skill of being able to choose between one or another, prioritize which one does a different job. That's a great way to do that.
Speaker 1:And then step number four is the refinement step, where we are moving those shelves so that things fit. We're maybe relocating some a cabinet here or there, unless it's like we've lived in our house for 20 years and the only thing I haven't moved in our house is the silverware drawer. My husband, jason I mean, he's on here, guys, it's Jason. His dad bought this house in 1987. And we bought it from him in 2004. So where that silverware has been is where that silverware is going to stay, no matter how much I want to move it. I actually don't want to move it because it's the right place for the silverware to be it's the only place for the silverware to it really is and I'm a creative organizer, like it's a creative process for me, so I'm not afraid to take risks.
Speaker 1:But that would drive me just as crazy um, welcome to my world, man.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, maybe you know what, while you're gone, I might move the silverware drawer only if I'd be okay with it.
Speaker 1:If you wiped it out also, that would be fine too I can't, guys.
Speaker 2:I cannot tell you how many times I would come home from, or I would get a text at work that would say things are different when you get home. I love you, thanks, bye. And then I'd come home and the kitchen is not where it. I mean the kitchen itself is still there, don't get me wrong. She didn't build a new room or anything.
Speaker 1:It was usually the pantry.
Speaker 2:Okay, whatever. Yeah, know, build a new room or anything. It was usually the pantry, okay, whatever. Yeah, this is this is why it the the most common phrase in our house is hey, mom or hey honey, where's the insert thing here? Because we know that you're gonna know where it is. This might turn about as fair play, baby, um here we go.
Speaker 1:You guys are my test subjects, yeah you guys are my test subjects yeah, you guys are my test subjects.
Speaker 2:I hope our audience appreciates what we have been put through all of these years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what? I'm just going to keep rolling.
Speaker 2:Again, we've met. I get it. I know what I signed up for, don't you misunderstand me. Okay, I love your whole thing. You got going.
Speaker 2:This whole thing I've got going is helping people be able to tackle these small projects lot, but when you distill it down, what it sounds like to me as a complete layman, correct me if I am wrong. The first thing I'm going to do is figure out if what I ultimately want is realistic and kind of marry the two somewhere so that's going to be the most effective thing for our family. We'll stick with a Tupperware example. Then I have to prepare whether that's getting the kids involved to clear all their stuff off the counter so I have a place to put it. Whatever tools I may need I wouldn't imagine many tools involved with rearranging or decluttering your Tupperware drawer or your cabinet. What have you?
Speaker 1:Decluttering, no Organizing often.
Speaker 2:Okay, fair, fair. And then the third one is doing it, Pulling everything out, figuring out A do I need it, do I want it, is there a better option? And then remind me what the fourth one is.
Speaker 1:To refine the system.
Speaker 2:Okay, so in this example, what does refine look like?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So if you chose to go and not purchase a new set of Tupperware let's say you just wanted to get a grip on what it is you already had Okay, see that you had some that the lids don't fit, or the container itself is warped or there is no lid, which, by the way, I really like using rectangle containers as drawer sorters, for if Tupperware doesn't have a lid, I like to reuse them as part of my container store and I use them as drawer sorters, so just repurposing them? Yep, exactly.
Speaker 2:Okay, that explains our junk drawer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I find what fits, I find a container that fits Okay.
Speaker 2:That makes sense.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, you're refining. Maybe that means that you're putting, now that you know that everything that's in there is stuff that you want and stuff that you like, maybe you're leveling up. Maybe you are getting that new set that you've always wanted. Maybe you're replacing the mason jars with no, maybe you're I don't know like. You're leveling up whatever leveling up looks like to you. Maybe you're putting in a basket with a label so that you can pull stuff out easier. Maybe you are putting shelf liner on the shelves. Maybe you are getting a new set, maybe whatever leveling up looks like. That's what that refinement stage, when you are still struggling with things. So let's say you're at the end of your project, you've put everything away, you're sitting on your couch at the end of the day and you know dinner is cooked and you need to like find a container to be able to put your leftovers in.
Speaker 2:It's been that kind of day. It has been that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you're looking for a container to put your leftovers in when you go to your Tupperware drawer. It should be easy. It should be easy to find what you need. Everything should be matched. It doesn't have to be matching, but it should be matched and it should make sense in your real estate of how much you are keeping, how much you are able to access. It should be easy. So if it's not easy, you know that there's another piece of refinement that needs to happen.
Speaker 2:All right, let me step into a role here. Let me talk to the audience real quick. Just don't listen. Hey, it's, it's jason. Um, uh, sometimes katie will come and say I want to do this big project, and I immediately just shut down because her big projects take on this grand sweeping thing and it overwhelms me. Let's take the the kitchen as an example. Right, starting in these little micro project, a micro project, a half hour work, no problem. Now, if you stack all of those all of a sudden, your kitchen's done. Now, of course, it's never that easy. There's always something that comes up. But if you Look at it through the lens of one small thing, you know how do you eat an elephant? The time honored tale of one bite at a time. If you put it in that perspective, I'm way more likely to be like oh yeah, cool it's, let's tackle the Tupperware drawer or let I got. I'm setting myself up so hard right now.
Speaker 1:It's so fun for me. I am and it's being recorded, guys I'm gonna edit this right out.
Speaker 2:I'm having second thoughts but, if you know, because I've been doing more of, uh, cooking dinners and it doesn't make any sense to me that the flour is here and the cornstarch is there, for example. They're fine where they are, but I'm just just using making an example. I can see why. Reorganizing a pantry okay, the soups are going to be here and the you know sauces are there, and et cetera Instead of just saying our kitchen is a disaster and we need to gut everything. That's what I hear. When you say I would really like to spend some time in the kitchen, I'm like, oh, my God, there goes my weekend.
Speaker 1:Referencing back to the conversation that we had with Amy Olson in the RV and that they go through their stuff once a year, that they reevaluate that stuff, and you don't have to live in a tiny home to have the habit of reevaluating what you have. If you haven't used it in a year, you probably aren't going to use it. You found a different tool to use in its place, or it just doesn't. It's unnecessary in your life. Maybe you can borrow it from a friend, I don't know. You know like I think of those beer can chicken things that we've had a number of over various years. I don't know if we still have one.
Speaker 2:I think I wanted you to keep it because we have the new grill and that thing will actually fit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we've had that grill now for four months. Yeah, yeah, we've had that grill for four months. Would you be able to put your hands on that? You do have a barbecue drawer which you are outgrowing.
Speaker 2:Yes, if it wasn't in those two places, then we've gotten rid of it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:For sure, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I would agree, but the barbecue drawer is a great example. It's a great example. That is a job that you could do. You could just do that. What is your vision for the barbecuing Hydraulics? Okay, guys, this is Jason.
Speaker 2:Your point is well taken.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you envision how you want to interact in that drawer. We're not talking about the kitchen, we're just talking about that drawer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, right.
Speaker 1:And I love that you are in the kitchen as much as you are and I really want your feedback in the kitchen. You are less of a secondary player now that you're home more often and using the kitchen more often, like when I was home seven days a week and you were working all of that overtime when we were getting out of debt and I was doing 98% of the cooking. Oh easily, I love you, but it really didn't matter if you cared where the spices were 100%.
Speaker 2:You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1:I was making it my own and I moved in. When we moved in 20 years ago, our pantry was already stocked with stuff that our in-laws my in-laws had left to help us establish our home, and it took me a while to learn what I would actually use. Like I was a 25 year old newlywed, I super don't need fish sauce. Like I'm, I'm never, I'm not gonna use fish sauce. You know what I mean, but I don't even know what the hell fish sauce is. I know it's and I'm 52. Well, tara lee would use it, my mother-in-law would use it in.
Speaker 1:She's a gourmet she's a wonderful cook, which is why she had all of this great stuff, and I know that she went and she re-bought it when they moved. But I didn't need that. That was not relevant to my life, that was not aligning with the vision that I had and it took me a while to let those things that were not in alignment with that. It took me a long time to be like why am I holding on to this stuff? Like Katie, you're really not going to use fish sauce. You're just come on. If you need fish sauce, I know where the grocery store is. Like, by the time you're going to use it, it will have been expired for even longer than it probably already was at that time. Like for real, you're not going to use that. So if you were going to tackle while we're gone, hey guys, let's see if he does it.
Speaker 2:Oh great.
Speaker 1:So you have a barbecue drawer.
Speaker 2:God, I'm so glad I edit this. This is all going to disappear.
Speaker 1:No, you have a barbecue drawer and I would like to see you approach it with the vision of what it would be like to barbecue and be like this is my drawer, these are my things. I want you to look through. I want you to empty it out. I want you to look at everything that's in there and only put in the things first that you love, you use all the time. I can name probably four things in that drawer that are washed often because you use them all the time, because I'm usually the one that's putting away the hand wash in the morning, so I can easily name those things. The other stuff is just like fun little stuff that we got along the way that we don't really use. And you're a great barbecuer and you have great fun tools that you're actually using. So all of the other stuff, I don't think that it's serving us, I don't think that you need it. So I would like to challenge you to that own little one drawer project. What do you say?
Speaker 2:Man, I set myself up. I'm such an idiot. All right, fine.
Speaker 1:Guys, I mean okay, and I'm also going to task our almost 15 year old to take video of it. Actually, you have done a small project recently and I was super proud of you. You did your bedside table.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's true, I did. I am awesome.
Speaker 1:You are awesome. I came home from going to the grocery store or taking the kids to school, I don't remember and I came home and on our king-size bed was Jason's bedside table contents. I have never touched his bedside table.
Speaker 2:I did ask for your help.
Speaker 1:And he did. He asked for my help and what did we do? We walked right through it and you have this honed, refined space and now you know you've done it one time. So if you wanted to reevaluate in six months or another year, you're going to have a different perspective, because it's not just 20 years of shit shoved into a drawer.
Speaker 2:That's pretty much what it was. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:So that's how you tackle a project, and, guys, I love that Jason has a little bit of homework. Oh, good and he's going to do so great.
Speaker 2:So now I get to be the editor, producer and guinea pig of the show.
Speaker 1:Well, you are already. You are already the guinea pig.
Speaker 2:You knew it all right, since you're setting me up, I would like to uh make an official apology to uh the mrs fields organization oh, oh, he did some googling.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're damn right I did. Is Is Mrs.
Speaker 2:Fields a real person. You better believe Deborah Jane Sivier, now Mrs Fields. Debbie Fields, born September 18, 1956, is the founder and spokesperson of Mrs Fields Bakeries, Not, in fact, a fictional person. You learned something today.
Speaker 1:I sure did. Thank you, you're very welcome Also. Mrs Fields, please send us money or cookies.
Speaker 2:I mean send us money or cookies.
Speaker 1:I mean, she's pretty good at cookies, Well, if she sent us cookies, it would save us money because our kids make a lot of cookies. But then they wouldn't get the benefit of making the cookies.
Speaker 2:I'm willing to bet that I don't know, I don't know Josie's Snickerdoodles might stand up. Yeah, Might stand up.
Speaker 1:To Mrs Fields yeah, might stand up, yeah, might stand up to Mrs Fields, yeah, and you know I have high hopes for those. The cheesecake Mrs Fields doesn't do cheesecake. We're getting off the rails. We're getting off the rails here.
Speaker 2:Let's bring it back. So in the next episode we'll have a report of whether or not I followed through on my barbecue drawer assignment. Folks, try and get through your next week. All right, it's going to be fine. We're going to discover the answer. You're going to be okay. Take a deep breath.
Speaker 1:I do want you guys to you know like vote on it, can you like? I'm sure?
Speaker 2:there's a little comment area. Whether he did or did not, let's see. Oh, fantastic.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you want, you're like it's a joke. He's never going to do it. No way, he cares too much about his mustache and his hair.
Speaker 2:Again, I feel a recurring theme here. I'm just going to push the button now so we can be done.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah. Okay, guys, well, thanks, thanks, Thanks. Thank you so much for listening to another episode of the Clutter Conversations. If you want to join our conversation, pop over to Facebook and find us Talk to you next time.
