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Season 2 Episode 28

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Will

​Sorry, I've been watching a lot SVU this week. We are the Football Fellows, uh, episode 72. The gangs all here. I'm, I'm here. Will joined by Christian, joined by Jarrell. Whole lot of lies being told on this pod last week, and I can't wait to dig deeper into it. How you guys doing?

Jerrell

Pretty good

Will

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Christian

clocked out two minutes ago.

Jerrell

City. Is is competing for a trophy.

Will

stock stocks. Hell yeah, bro.

Christian

Hell yeah. I see. I see. Bro. I was never worried vintage. I was worried.

Jerrell

don't know, or from Florida, I don't know what to tell

Will

First, listen bro, we gotta make sure everyone knows every game or uh, every week. Um, we are the football fellows, as we mentioned. We have socials. We're on Instagram. You can DM us there. We have Twitter, you can tweet us. There we have blue sky. You can skeet at us there at not on

Christian

Watch for the trench.

Will

Yes. Yes. Um, we also have Gmail. We have a website, football hills.com drill. Thank you for being admin on that. Um, and we also have new locations. Drill. Take it away,

Jerrell

Montreal is listening today,

Will

blue today.

Jerrell

at least at some point? Yeah, today

Christian

Today. Holy crap,

Jerrell

April 30th, 2026.

Will

you said Today, I was like, ah, I didn't date it. Mm-hmm.

Jerrell

So thank you. Thank you, Canada. Thank you, Quebec.

Will

Um, I do want to,

Jerrell

speak French and que.

Will

they do, they do ade boo.

Christian

Pep de pew.

Jerrell

Now, now they're not listening anymore.

Will

Oh, well, there it goes. Whatever. Whatever.

Jerrell

gone now.

Christian

We, just had a moment of silence.

Will

we, left our mark on them. They listened to enough. Okay.

Christian

Does it tell you how long they listen?

Jerrell

No, uh, it tracks if it's over a minute, so there you

Christian

Hell yeah.

Will

Oh hell yeah. That's why

Jerrell

It's like a, it's like a TikTok.

Will

like life, our strongest minute is the first minute. Yes sir. Thank you Christian. Don't say anything over a minute is dangerous. Row.

Christian

Yeah. You should get that checked.

Will

You can get, you can get get, you can pull something, you know,

Christian

Get clogged or something, bro. You know

Will

bad things can happen.

Jerrell

dangerous out there.

Will

we're a football podcast. Um, we're from Florida, but you know, football, American soccer, jarrell dropping IP addresses on the dock. You love to see it. I saw that Empty looking. I was like, oh, he's hacked in. Hacker Man is hacked in. I like how Jarrell started looking around, like, how did he know? Um, yep. This week, so we're gonna go over, um, FA Cup semi-final results. We have a final set. Match. 8 34. We have the first leg of UCL and then we also, we have a couple of results for Europa and Conference league as well. Before we head into our match 8 35 preview as each game we play is so important for some reason. Isn't it great? Isn't it great? Life is good. Life is good. You guys got that negative shit out. Last week I went on a cleanse. I want a full weak cleanse. Just all the darkness is out. I'm positive will. I'm positive Will.

Christian

Gonna last,

Will

I don't know. We play on Saturday.

Christian

days left.

Will

I was like, we play on Saturday. So there we go. So, um, yeah, yeah. Should we dive into it? I figured we'd touch on the FA cup first because

Christian

about the small trophies first. Let's, let's let,

Will

FA Cup used to be the end of season for England, so,

Christian

Yeah.

Will

so we don't sound like ignorant.

Christian

cups, you know,

Will

Whatever.

Christian

cups.

Will

important to us. That's why we.

Christian

It's not, you know, it's not like no champions that you know are still in somehow.

Jerrell

Somehow that's rude.

Will

It's just like talking down on it is still an insult. I feel like at that point, because we were not arsenal's not in that either. So I feel like your usual tactical just like use, that doesn't work. I, it's all good. Um, what were the results over the weekend? What's the final?

Jerrell

Uh, Nottingham four is just did not wanna play nice with Sutherland. Five zero.

Christian

What

Will

Oh, FA cup. Fa cup.

Jerrell

Oh

Will

Yeah. Let's hit that first and then we'll, you know, get that little thing out the way.

Jerrell

The

Christian

was like, the trees are in the semis.

Will

I was like, they had that, they, they had a match day and they, they played three comps in four days. That's crazy.

Jerrell

Rogue team. Manchester City overcame South Hampton late. They, got two goals over South Hampton, south End, scored in the 79th minute. Uh, but city managed to close it out and they on to their fourth cup final in a row.

Will

Sick.

Jerrell

Good for South

Christian

I believed in South Hampton, man. After the 79th minute goal. I was like, here we go guys. And then, you know, it just all went to shit.

Jerrell

Well, you know, the past two years for Southampton, I don't even know where they are in the championship, but getting rele, getting relegated last year being, know, a panda watch for for so

Will

Pond to watch. Sorry.

Jerrell

the semifinals for the FA cup. Lemme go find out where they are in the championship.

Christian

Holy shit.

Will

And

Jerrell

have any?

Will

the other match, uh, that occurred Chelsea versus Leeds, um, less exciting. Uh, uh, uh, Liam Ro, he was fired last week. Enzo Fernandez, he scores in the 23rd minute. There was not a trade off of goals in this one. South Hampton almost pulled up that up and the first one, and then, um, eight minutes later, uh, my happiness turned to Ash. Positive will. Um, so, uh, final is set as Chelsea looked to get something from this season that's gone terribly wrong on the second half of, uh, the year. Um, but they have that final set for May 16th leading to, um, we'll see. Um, Chelsea, they, that's all they have to play for, uh, Manchester City. They were trying to switch the dates of some fixtures. They're gonna have, um, three matches in seven days. There. They were trying to get. Their burn myth clash. That's after the FA Cup switched for their Crystal Palace remake that they have. Um, and they were not granted that, um, I guess shooters had to shoot, but, uh, they were upset because they have a tough match, uh, against burn myth later in the season. Um, that could be a title Tilter. Um, but fuck 'em both.

Christian

bad, Boohoo,

Will

I mean, yeah, Arsal in the middle of, uh, kind of like their last stretch of. Tight games. Yeah. Stay too juicy.

Christian

Two Butter, buttery.

Will

I saw that. Yeah.

Christian

All right, match. Day 34.

Will

Okay. Fuck it. Yeah, let's let next.

Christian

s Ball, pat, uh, uh, pod match. Day 34. We started off as, uh, Jarrell talked about earlier. Forest out of nowhere. Five zero to Sunderland. Uh, yeah. Sunland, what's up?

Jerrell

So rude

Christian

Yeah. Why? Oh, you just automatically, you, you're, you're out of the relegation talk. Congratulations. And I just wanna drop five, a five piece to Sunland. was a, that was a little, that was a little

Will

Mexican Twitter does not appreciate.

Christian

yeah. No, no, no, no,

Jerrell

and

Christian

no.

Will

They're one and the same.

Christian

still devastating loss for Sunland Sunderland. I mean, that whole six through 12, six through 13 really are still, it's like up for grabs. So with, uh, if Sunland would've won, they would've tied Burnman in seven in seventh place, but instead they're forced to currently sit at 12. tough loss, especially when, uh, you wanna factor in gold differential and such a tight, tight table. Uh, but yeah, tough loss for Sunland. Shout out for the tricky forest. still hang in there.

Will

I really think I'm on some type of spectrum. 'cause anytime we fuck up the alliteration, a little part of me just like, oh, like a little bit like we call 'em freaky trees or tricky forest us of just kind of just like, it's right in front of us. What are we doing? Um, but yeah, tough result. Um, huge result for Nottingham, obviously. Uh. Forest, they looked relatively clear, but they were still within, uh, stones throw of, uh, spurs and uh, west end. But, um, those three points I think will be huge. Um, five points clear End of match day with some spoilers there, um, of Spurs. There were eight points clear at the time of this result. So huge, huge result. Emphatic result on the road for Ingham Forest as they're also competing, um, competing in the Europa League as well, which had a hilarious result about like an hour ago. Um, but we'll get there eventually.

Jerrell

Hmm. Uh, Ashton Villa, uh, falling to Fulham. I, Ashton Villa's relatively safe for the Champions League, but it's not guaranteed. Right. They're eight points ahead right now, but they can still get got with four games left to go on the season.

Will

Yeah. They need about, they need five points to be mathematically safe without getting into like any type of tiebreak situation.

Jerrell

Oh boy. Oh boy.

Will

Yeah, Villa Limping through the season, fullham huge, huge result, um, for their aspirations on the season. But Villa Villa's just been on a journey the back half of the season, um, since, since their eight game win streak in December that had us talking Bell was like, oh shit, it's a three horse race. Ars, so a man city thing. Um, they have not won back-to-back games since December. They've just

Jerrell

damn.

Will

of been

Jerrell

that's our

Will

in the motherfucking mud. Yep.

Jerrell

That's on

Will

The real villains are right here. Yeah. This is all I came to contribute, by the way. Just,

Jerrell

It.

Will

um, speaking of not contributing much to my life, but still holding a, you know, a heavy part of it. Westham also huge win my catfish. Okay. Huge win over Everton. Um, they score. Yeah. Yeah. Really spurred them onto victory, if you know what I mean. Um, I mean, I guess, fuck it, we'll touch both of them. Spurs almost had a winner in the 82nd minute, um, of their game that was playing at the same time. Bia with a great glow. Antonin Kinski, he had a great free kick save and they were celebrating,

Christian

a

Will

in, it was fantastic. I, I honestly forgave everything he did in the Champions League. And then what happens? Callum Wilson, that's what happens. He gets a late equalizer of the second, uh, minute of in, of injury time. Westham staying clear Spurs, they needed to get that win against Wills regardless. Um, they had Dominic Lankey and Chave Simons go down, go off with injuries as that continues to pile up. But Westham was dropping for a little bit and the pressure stays on Spurs as Weam stays. Two points clear. So, um.

Christian

tough. Both games ended up in, uh, goalless at the half, so it was gonna be one of those sleepers. Both of them. Both teams, like you mentioned, needed to win and it was definitely a, a very fun last 15 minutes for both of them. Um, Everton Unfortunate, unfortunate, lost toffees once again with that crowded, uh, mid table a win here would've been tied with sixth place and just under a by gold differential. So big loss for Everton. Westham needed that win. Tottenham needed that win. And wolves, they're, they're showing, hey, first game. After they got, um, eliminated and eliminated, relegated, they still show that they have something to play for. They're still showing up for that pride. It was a good game from wolves Again, that free kick block from, from uh, uh, Tottenham's goalie was just phenomenal. Got a little, uh, hurt diving into that post, but it was just a great save.

Will

Yeah.

Jerrell

on to the Liverpool and Crystal Palace. Really hoping this was gonna be a game, but Liverpool, uh, hold off. Crystal Palace three one and the Reds have won four in a row,

Christian

Yeah, kind

Jerrell

right?

Christian

Uh, mostly for got, got

Will

I was gonna say mostly for Crystal Palace, but yeah.

Christian

Most LA got subbed off 'cause of a hamstring injury. And then, I don't know if you guys saw him, uh, when he was getting subbed off. He took his time, he got applaud. He got a standing ovation, um, by all the fans. It, it's, it's the possibility with only four, four games left to play. Yeah. Four games left to to play. Um, was that the last final game? Um, final home game, especially after, uh, hammy.

Will

I think he sh. I think it, I think he might be okay according to my sources that I don't have. But, um, I think I remember reading like from my aggregation of just whatever that, um, he should be okay to show up in some way, shape or form or facet in a game, uh, and get a proper sendoff. But yeah, definitely a scary moment, um, in what has been like a very long-winded, uh, departure if you look over the last two season fris soak. But yeah.

Christian

Yeah.

Will

And the next game. So, arsenal Newcastle also showed up. My fault guys, I should've just let you all fucking stay on crack head energy last week. Um, uh, evident. He scores our early banger in the ninth minute. Um, and then the rest was just a clench fest for if your arsenal. Um, it was about what I expect when these two teams meet. Real reason I took last week off. I will talk shit about ne Castle. We've inevitably drawn, um, but three points clear. Um, arsenal are gonna be sitting top of the table with man city yet to play as they had their FA cup, semi-final, semi-final. So, um, game in hand for man city arsenal up currently. Um, if Citi wins, they would go top of the table, um, just based off goal differential and or goal scored.

Jerrell

Need more goals

Christian

this was a, this was a.

Jerrell

need a lot more goals.

Christian

Especially after a nine minute, uh, goal from a, this was a perfect chance for Arsenal to just really put their foot on the gas and just start. Trying to score goals, which you wouldn't by the statue, you wouldn't expect that to be a thing. Another surprising fact is that, that, uh, they had, they ran that same play, that same corner kit play. They changed their style. They're, no, they were no longer crowding the keeper. They were no longer crowding the box and just like making uncomfortable for the, for the keeper to move. They did a few dummy runs, uh, for Martin or Guard and, uh, uh, Zu and Mendy made a few, uh, that pulled some defenders out the way that led for the cutback for Isaiah to make. A beautiful goal, um, from outside the box and quick, little fun fact, I think as a, uh, since the 22, 23 season, he leads all, all players with the most goals outside the box with 10. they drew that up specifically for EZ as they definitely had a wonderful goal then, and then it just fucking went back to Arsenal. Just playing down to the team. You, you would expect after such an early goal that we would at least dominate, have more shots on goal, have better xg, but no, Newcastle actually had more ex xg than us in this game. They had more shots than us in this game. And it's a, it's a, I know we all clenched when that beautiful pass went over for wea and wea just fucking. For the stars, literally. And it was a beautiful pass and it was definitely on side and it should have been a goal and it should have come back to haunt us. But yeah, arsenal, once again, showing that we just can't get the ball up top. Like we, we can't, we can't get our players into, uh, into dangerous positions and with a less than one xg on this game. It's just, it was very disheartening, especially considering the fact that we need goals. We don't just need to win, we need goals.

Jerrell

That's what it'll come down to, right? If it's level on points. It's goal differential or goal score.

Christian

Gold

Will

It is goal differential, if that's even, that's gonna be based off goal scored, uh, man City with one less game played. They have scored two more goals in Arsenal. Um, their first in League Arsenal 64 goals. So when I was doing my RealList in which. I wasn't going to initially, but there was like four times that Christian last week was just kinda like, oh, have you listened to it? Have you listened to it? And honestly I

Christian

one.

Will

I was just kind of like expecting like it to be like this, like fucking filet m uh, of Barcelona. Um, and I was like, oh, it's the to thing. I'm just kind like, I think what kind of gets lost when discussing styles of play in teams and like obviously Arsenal. Um, especially over the last two years and like, yeah, they're not getting results at the end of the day. There's been this pushback about just like, oh, okay, well they need to win a certain way. Arsenal was doing that in 2022 when they were playing open and they took teams by surprise, and then you kind of saw them burn out towards the end of the year, and then the following year they were still kind of doing to result. But then you saw like, um, a lot of like late, late result ties or whatnot. And it's tough this year I feel like, because um, for all the, oh, arsenal plays boring and they recycle. And um, Christian you spoke about like it was an indictment on Tick to Tick to is just a style that teams play, right? Um, there's good versions of it and there's bad versions of it. Um, it's not, hey, this is better than all types of play. It really just depends how you deploy. 'cause if a team's flat, they're not making incisive passes and they're not. Trying to create those opportunities. Like you guys say, play a little bit more. Directors talks about long balls or whatnot. You run into trouble, right? You play long balls. You, um, run into where, hey, you're losing match control now you're playing more on your back foot. What you're seeing this year, a lot with Arsenal's team is just, everyone's playing a deep luck. You don't see teams really try to play open with Arsalan. Not to say that Arsenal gets their tactics correct all the time either. I think obviously we saw in the Man city game. They were playing like a little too meek. Um, especially like, uh, the care about Cup, they played more open, but like teams, like leads, when they try to play open with, um, arsenal, like first half of the season as a game that stands out, it was five nothing quick. Um, so it's just kinda like, it's tough because yes, ideally, yeah, I wanna see Arsenal two three oh or whatnot, but with Arsenals kind of, hey, they had UCL considerations and they knew at Letgo was sitting their whole fucking team because they're banking up on it and it's a road game. It's not just necessarily like, Hey, let's score three, four goals against a really well-trained Newcastle team. Sometimes you need to eek out results. It can be frustrating, it's not fun, but no one remembers at the end of the day. Um, unless like, obviously, yeah, I mean, the haters are gonna remember you not winning a trophy. Right. And I feel like over the course of like, and relative to other people, hey, I, I've only been following Arsal for like four or five years. Um. Before it was Arsenal played, like, especially when they had OCO, they played too finesse, they played too small, they played too this, but they don't have a way, they can't really compete in the Premier League 'cause they don't have size. Cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Um, they were flying four years ago and you saw them burn out with death. Okay, cool. Um, they seem to be better than everyone, um, the last two seasons with how they score from free kicks, dead plays. And now that's a problem in the Premier League where it's just like, oh well now they just play had on ball and they just. Oh, they play for free kicks, but I'm just kind of just like, at the end of the fucking day, if arson doesn't win, the tr win any trophies. No one's gonna talk about, oh, well they, they or no one's gonna talk about the South Play all, they don't even care about the second. If Arsenal wins, the, wins the Premier League, or wins the Champions League, no one's gonna talk about the beautiful football that fucking man City played, um, against us or anything like that. They're just gonna look at the fucking trophy. So at the end of the day, I don't think. I think their styles of play that teams deploy that work for them, I think their styles of play that we all prefer to watch, but at the end of the day, it's just getting the fucking job done. And when I look at this with Team Kai haves went down with a another knee knock. They're hoping to, again, back in the lead, um, the lead up where I just saw so hit the field in UCL on midweek. It's just, I think they're just trying to figure out how they can win games week to week. Is it always working? No, but I'm also just kind of like. We're sitting fucking tied with man city who's won seven out of nine and like we've been look looking weak on the we up, but best defense in the league, second most goal scored. So, I don't know, man. I just, I get frustrated too, but I'm also not gonna kind of go into like this full like, kind of like ah ass or anything like that.

Christian

We.

Will

could be worse. We could be fucking Chelsea, right? Like it could be, Chelsea hasn't, wasn't able to score a game for six games, and that's not even me taking a shot. It's just like there's real problems where teams really aren't winning. Arsenal had a bad month, and it's just kind of like they have a chance to win the league. They're in the semi-finals, they hit the same stage of last year in the winnable tie. So I'm just kinda like, no. Yeah. Ideally we just win everything and I'm not stressed.

Christian

They know they're behind. They know they need goals, and they're, they're, we're walking away with a less,

Will

But then look at, look, look at when teams, players Arsenal. Do they break them down in midfield? Is Arsenal pinned back on average of Yeah, the Man City game. Carrabelle Cup. I thought the tactics were wrong. They played capital, whatever, but like teams aren't being Arsenal when they meet them. 50 50. I think C has the skill to, I think Liverpool played us well a couple times this week, but those games even came down to like more free kicks than anything. But it's just like on a week to week, no team's gonna try to play Arsenal. At their best, even because there's a level of apprehensiveness, all they're trying to do is play a low block, catch us on a turn, um, catch us on a counter and trying to win like that. So yes. Is it frustrating that we're not just playing long ball, not just thing, but no. That match control also leads to teams doing it.

Christian

The long ball being

Will

And I the idea of the direct facets of play.

Christian

even wearing the, when in their half, not even, uh, not even like deep in, in their box, but even when they're in their half and you ha you see, you see your wingers, you see Yoko dish, you see average. You, you, you

Will

Okay.

Christian

the runs in Ode Guard sees that. Stops, turns

Will

Oh, they got,

Christian

it to the, to the side,

Will

oh, because,

Christian

no one's making that pass. And I'm not saying we have to always make that pass, but do it every once in a while. We've ne we, it's, we. There's no implication of, uh, just, just, just give it a shot. They're making really good runs. Um, towards the, behind the, the defender that's not, um, towards behind the center, uh, center back. a good look. It's literally a good look, but they're not even testing it. They're not even giving it that opportunity.

Will

What All I'll say is just like, once again, in this Newcastle game, and yes, there is moments where, you know, it could have gone the other way. They're playing a specific way because also at the same time, yes, when there's a, there's a, there's a look and whatnot, and Ode Guard hasn't been the same since he came back like a few weeks ago, which is why you see him split, which is like, yes, za has been playing really well now that he's getting consistent run. But it's also just like, I think even we talked about like the wingers that we have currently, trocar's been dealing with the knock. He hasn't looked effective over like the last two months. It felt like AKA has just came back. He's been out for like the last few months. Martinelli and Meke. And I love the dynamism that Meke offers have not been getting at the end of goals that we haven't seen any finishing product. We haven't seen that link up in creation to assist. So it's just like, yes, I totally understand. It could, we can be more incisive. We can definitely do better to create from live play. But even when you look at like the burn myth loss or whatever, we outshot burn myth. We had more of the ball of burn myth. The, not the, the margins are thin not to, to hit the cliche, right. Newcastle is a tough team to play. We scored early and I think, yes, I agree. While 2.0 I would've preferred and we're not just kind of biting our ass and hoping to keep a clean sheet, but last week on the pod you also said, damn, I missed when we had clean sheets, they did their job for a week. I think yes, it's frustrating, but at the same time three points is three points, and there will be opportunities to put the goals up. But at the end of the day too, I think you also have to measure it against just kinda like, yeah, we need to push for goals, but if we, if we, if we drop points, we actually might just be cooked. If we draw in a game, we might be code. If we go 1 0 1 Burnley, I'll shut the fuck up. If we don't put up hell, it goes on Burnley. But I think that's the game for me where the score has to be run up. That's kind of for me, when we were going in and you guys spoke about Burnley, um, was able to hold on one one oh against thing. That's our real opportunity to make move, um, moves within that space outside of Man City, just having a tougher schedule on the runup. So it's just like. I get it and I shared the frustration, but at the same time, if we were trying to force, force the action and try to force something and get caught on the counter late, we also would be probably just talking about how we're still shit. So I'm just kinda like, like, I hear you. I just think at the end of the day it's just like two, balance it out. It was three points we're top of the table. We did our job for now. And yeah, maybe in three weeks it'll be a problem. Um, goal differential we're talking about. But all you can do week by week. Is win your fucking games.

Christian

Winning our games isn't enough to win a trophy this time.

Will

I mean, it was, we, we lost more games. But it, it is what it is. It's not like we're, hey, there's 20 teams in the Premier League. 18 league teams are not gonna be wi or for sure not winning, um, trophy under the year. So unfortunately, it's just like, yeah, we had a chance to hit, put our stamp on the season. It just didn't happen over the last couple weeks, but here we fucking are. What are we gonna do? Right. It is not over.

Jerrell

Job's not done. Would you believe it guys? There's still one more game. Man, United and Brentford played on Monday. Uh, man United able to fend off B Benford's 87th minute score. Uh, Castro and Sheko score in the first half. Uh, Mattea Gen, uh, Jensen scores for B Brentford in the second half. Uh, I asked the bees to break their sixth game draw streak. They delivered a loss, so they're not in, they didn't entirely forsake

Will

They said believe that.

Jerrell

I wish it went the other way though. Um, but the bees are in the middle of that race for Europe. I guess you could consider Brighton all the way down to Sutherland. Do you throw Palace into that with how many games were left? Pal has a game in hand on all those teams.

Will

Yeah, I'm trying to do, I'm trying to count in my head. So Brighten Brighton right now, sitting in a UCL spot. Wild. Um, and then what? Oh no, sorry, I'm seller it on gold differential, like an ignorant person. I was like, that doesn't look right. Um, I was just like, I'm gonna have research, but they are in position for a European spot still. So what we're doing fit to. I'll cut off at Sunland. Yeah, four points, four games. Unlikely for Sunderland, but not impossible. Since all these teams play each other.

Christian

Yeah, I think 6 3 11 is definitely like that, that zone where it's just like up for grabs. You got two European. Positions open in, in that spot and it, it's definitely up for grabs, but apart from Brentford, um, what I'm scared for is what Manu is gonna look like under a full year of my Kerick. As soon as he took brains in this Manu team has just turned it all around. Um, if you remember, oh, I am blanking. Previous manager, Portuguese

Will

Am room.

Christian

Eren. Is he Portuguese? I know he came from a

Will

Yes.

Christian

team, but Okay. Eren refused to play

Will

90% sure Carolyn.

Christian

Uh, emerin refused to play Minu. He just didn't like it. He said he had a, he, he occupied the same space as Nan, and therefore he just would not give him minutes. I don't think he had a, a, a star or maybe just one star. He barely got any minutes. Kerry came in, he incorporated minute into the play. Now you have, uh, fern notch minute playing. They're, they're dominating the, the, the top half of the center mid. Um, and it allows, and it allowed, uh, Cato to go back to the, the playing style, the position that he's more comfortable in, uh, this past week. Match. Day 34. Cato was voted player of the year for notches. One assists away from matcha on Reason de Bruin's record for most assists in in, in the Premier League. Um, Michael characters came in quietly. He's, he, he, he, he's not a showboating manager. He's a very nice, calm, cool and collected. I don't know if you guys remembered a couple years ago when, um, I forgot. one of the many, uh,

Will

So shy.

Christian

Yeah. Um, that got fired. He came into as an interim coach for three, three or four games, one of them being uh, um, a champions game. And he didn't lose any of that. I think he won two and won one, and I think one of them was against a top flight Spanish team. I think he tied Raw Madrid actually. Like Michael Kerik is a scary, scary guy. And, and. He got man United third place with only half a season. Imagine what he's gonna be able to do when he has an entire year with his team. Manu is breaking out. He's an amazing player. He's, he's, he's one of, I think his injection into the starting lineup is one of the main reasons, uh, Manu is playing as, as well as they have been Gustos going back to his, to, to, um, he's going back to Miami, unfortunately. There was talks while Ameren was still in there. Gatos just watched, like, he's not playing like he used to. He, he was blamed for a lot of things. He was playing slightly outta position, but with Manu there, he was able to drop and play a more, a, a, a role. He was more comfortable in. Um, and this is beyond the Bruford game, but Manu United has been playing real good ball and, uh, next year they're, um, I can't, I can't talk shit to my little cousin anymore, um, as a Manu fan, but.

Will

Hot. Take

Christian

a scary team. What's up?

Jerrell

gonna be

Will

my take is that this is the full cycle of AM room. Actually, the shackles have been released and now they're playing more free and it's a vibe correction. Michael Kerrick's coming and he's just putting square pieces of square holes and I'm just like next year. Mid table. I'm fucking calling it. Maybe I'm hitting Who fucking knows. I don't think they finished in a UCL spot next year. I'm saying, I said what? I said I think Ammar M was going so fucking bad playing that three at the back, that 3 5 2, that he wouldn't go that just him not being there. Such a breath of fresh air vibes are corrected. Mineo being, being able, like playing again, players getting integrated, putting Casimiro not expecting him to run up and down the field and play like, just like the EPL stone. Just like, Hey, you know what, you are a really good holding midfielder. Do that shit like that. And they're not being played through anymore, trying to play on counters and shit. Yeah. So, no, he's doing a fantastic job. I'm not thankful. I'm just kind of just like, we'll see. It's a lot. I'm just like, who do you, well, I mean, it's easy to pick like teams that like, maybe not, but a lot can happen over a summer. Right. Especially with World Cup Summer. So we'll see. But I'm, I'm willing to bet that they're not gonna finish top five next year.

Christian

They, where were they? They were bottom half of the table, uh, going into December.

Will

Yeah.

Christian

So vibe correction doesn't take you to a third place. A vibe correction might take, you know, five, six, but all the way to third place and, and it's, it's a solid third

Will

Hey, hey, it's my, it's my, it's my take, bro. That's why I said it's a take. Hey, hey. It's a take. I'm not, I could be, I could be wrong. I could be wildly wrong. I'm not gonna lie. But at the same time, when you're looking at all of their results, and like, don't get me wrong, they're winning games and they're eking out those margins. Um, and they had like impressive Mar uh, what was it, January. It was wildly impressive when they beat. Um, us in Man City back to back. Um, but I don't know. A lot of these games are close, man. I don't, I, I don't know how many times have we joked about, I was just like, man, this motherfucker loves Benjamin Csco, another lake goal and whatnot. So I'm just kind of like, maybe, maybe I'm just completely wrong. Maybe they finished, you know, around the same spot and maybe they're even more dominant and maybe we finish in second to man the other team from Manchester next year. But that's, it's, it's just a take. It's just a take. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I got a feeling.

Christian

Nah, I, I, I think they make top five for sure. Next year.

Will

Hey, it's, it's my take drill clip that,

Jerrell

Clipped. We had Europa.

Will

drill. How's the bees Quarter? How's the hive?

Jerrell

I told you, I asked, I asked for them to break the six, six game draw and they delivered me a

Will

Oh, I thought you wanted to talk about on the other side of it going forward, but you're right. We can move on. We can move on. You're my fault, bro.

Jerrell

Yeah. Uh, the August I second and the Golden Boot Race. A sandwich between two man city

Will

Hell yeah. They're, they're, they're cannibalizing themselves. I, I, I see the vision,

Jerrell

yeah.

Will

but, um, UCL happened. I heard

Jerrell

You still happened and Europa happened.

Will

that too.

Jerrell

about

Will

European nights occurred.

Jerrell

that was today.

Christian

midweek games are really tough to keep track of. over here when they happen in the middle, when you get called into teams meetings as the games are about to start

Will

We get it. You're employed. Whoopty do. Weird flex, bro. I'm doing my best. No, I'm kidding. Um, but yeah, no, definitely. I, I try to put on. I, well, no, I didn't even get a chance to try to put on PSG by, so I had to catch it after. And then I also, same with Athletical Madrid and, uh, AIA and Marino. I had it on for like 30 minutes and it was like, from my pocket, I could hear things

Christian

Fell

Will

going on. But yeah,

Jerrell

Just nine goals. It delivered everything.

Christian

It was such a, it, it, it.

Jerrell

There was enough

Will

I,

Jerrell

that it made up for.

Will

wanna, I wanna start Alfonzo des, was it a handball?

Jerrell

I missed that.

Will

Hmm.

Christian

Um, that, that one's, that, that's a tough one. Um, I can see if you are un, if you have a bias towards a certain team, you, I have no problem you spitting your, your, your opinions one way or the other. It is very tough. um, I, I think what hurts him is the fact that he started with his hands behind his back. So any movement of the arm seems like extra movement that you're not supposed to. I personally don't think it should have been a penalty because it bounced off his leg first and the movement that he made to, with his right leg to, um, block it with his right thigh. Biomechanically, if you move your right leg, you're also gonna be moving your opposite

Will

Hell yeah. Tell me about those body mechanics, Christian. Hell yeah. This is what I'm here for. Fuck yeah.

Christian

so, I think, I think what made made it look worse was the fact that he started with his arms behind his back because it was just more, more distance that his arm had to travel when he ultimately tried to twist his body to block the ball. So I think, um. The rules state that if it bounces off your body and then it hits your arm, it's not a, it's not a penalty unless like it's an obvious, like, it, like it bounces off your chest and then now you're just swat swatting the ball away. That's a completely different, that's obviously a penalty, but I think this one because it hit off his thigh and then the motion to move his body, like cross his leg to hit, to like block the ball, causes left arm to move. In the same like, uh, posture in the same, you know, movement. So that's why I don't think it was a, it was a penalty. I also think it's one of the ones where, um, it has to be, uh, decisive and conclusive to overturn, and I don't think it falls that. So I think whatever the, the, the call on the field was, I don't think breaking it down in slow motion would've been enough to, to overturn it.

Will

Okay, so calling the field was, was, was it, was it penalty or was it. Do we, do we know off the top of our head because I'm just kind of like for that, when I was watching the Barbara, hey, it wasn't live. It didn't look like it. And I, I, I'm in agreement there. I just, I, I guess my next one was just like, so then the Ben, Ben white handball, was that a penalty? 'cause similar thing. It took a bounce deflection. His arm was more out. Um, I think I'm in agreement with your first one. Second one, I was just like, well, it's a deflection, but at the same time it wasn't handball. Um, so was that a penalty? Because, you know, I mean, both, both goals scored from that Leddy game was, we're we're penalties, obviously, but that was the one that went too far.

Christian

almost three.

Will

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, well, spoiler, guess what I'm about to ask you about next?

Christian

Uh. A penalty.

Will

No, I mean, I'm asking you about the, so the call on Ben White, so it took a deflection off, like his niche and area bounced up. Um, and his arm was outstretched. So I mean, that one, if you were to call one IMP penalty, I'd say that one looks like more. But the initial call on the field wasn't that. So now we're getting back into like almost litigation of rules, which is like my favorite part about soccer. Not the game, but hey, let's, let's, how, how do you feel about this? You

Jerrell

A.

Will

Yeah. Like it's far gonna call it

Christian

Ben Ben White. Ah, that's Ben White's tough. 'cause it's not just slightly. So yes,

Jerrell

to it.

Christian

So

Will

body mechanics. Yes.

Christian

Patreon isn't gonna be here for the body, but my boys can see

Will

You'd be surprised. I record all this shit.

Christian

right leg is like moving further back. So for balance, your, your left arm, if your right leg goes back, your left arm is gonna go forward.

Will

Okay.

Christian

if you look at Ben White's. Position he goes like this to try to block it with his right leg, which is for balance, so he doesn't fall flat on his face, but he's also a professional athlete, which

Will

but then we're getting into now, just like the written rule of the law is just like, well, a deflection from near the body if it's near deflection, but his arm's in unnatural.

Christian

near

Will

Where no, his arm isn't. But then the, it bounces clatters off his knee and then goes, I'm not, I thought by definition

Christian

tough.

Will

it's, a penalty. But now we're getting into, well now the call in the field wasn't that. So now it's a clear and obvious here, despite the ruling. Okay, cool. Um, yo Kadesh before that, he got ran through his back, um,

Christian

Tell.

Will

Barcelona cried about a corner. I was just kind of like Daniel. Almost similar thing happened. Um, and their UCL corner final, um, thing, uh, matchup. Um, there was no call, even though I think almost to me maybe when I was watching was more egregious. Yo Kardash is the bigger guy, so maybe obviously I think, I think both rep penance for me, but Okay. Cool. Um, that one's clean. Novar intervention year for that. And then the last one, za, in the 82nd minute, we had another controversy where when you watch it live. Um, call on field was a pen and then VAR calls the refs over to, for a clear and obvious here, obviously to overturn it. Was that a penalty, I guess is where I'm at now.

Christian

Watching it live. Definitely. I'm like, he killed my man. done. He got sniped. But then you, when you're watching it close, and I was looking at all the different angles. It doesn't look like he on him. He definitely caught his sleet. It was, this is a tough one because the intention is not there. It's not a blatant foul because the intention is not there. does he touch the ball first?

Will

He didn't touch ball

Christian

I, I, I

Will

and then tech. So I'm guess, I guess where I'm at, because everyone's just kind of like with that, well, za Dove and made a show of it, but I'm just like, well, if Za tried to run straight. Thing Clatters into that lety play. So all this is to say, I don't really know the answers myself. I just kind of, and I'm kind of with you when the way you're talking about it, but I think it's almost just almost the selectiveness of how we're applying the rule at certain times. Where now we're judging player intent and are we making a show of it? Is it deflection here? Deflection there where I'm just kind of just like, this isn't what I wanna watch, wanna talk about after a fucking Champions League match. I know, Hey, this is our pod. I chose to bring it up.

Christian

Yeah.

Will

Yeah, but I'm literally just kind of like, but these are huge moments, right? Where it's just kinda like if PSG don't get that, uh, it's four, four arsenal, if they don't get, um, their penalty, um, you know, overturned late, it's two, one headed, its resemblance. These are huge, huge moments. And I think for me, the essay one, the call in the feel was that, so now we're getting into just like, was that clear and obvious? And for me it wasn't. 'cause when you watch anything slowed down, it looks different. But when you watched it live, it looked like as they was taken out, being able to play on the ball and even watching the thing. Okay, he didn't lead him, but he also didn't allow him a chance to play the ball or whatnot. So getting into it, I think.

Christian

the ball was not playable. That shit had too much pace.

Will

I seen EZ do some wild shit this season. Okay brother?

Christian

was not playable.

Will

I have seen Za do some wild shit this season, brother,

Christian

I definitely feel he, he, he add more MPH to his, uh, fall once he realized that he wasn't getting to the ball that that ball went

Will

but.

Christian

who was right next to him. It was a, it was a, uh, Madrid and, uh, ti and uh, and an arsenal player that was literally right there that could've got him, but even they couldn't get it. It went all the way to the corner for I think AKA was there in the corner to, uh, to get it. So it wasn't playable, which I don't know if that's something we should factor in when it comes to a pen. You should factor as like, was it

Will

But was it,

Christian

of it's

Will

it's a foul, whether it was playable or not, it's a foul and it's just for me, the clear and obvious. So I mean all that's to say PSG and Byron was fantastic. Byron, continue. I'm just saying, everyone said are, are, uh, Barcelona couldn't win, playing a high line. Byron's playing on the other side of PSGs Field and they got fucking cut the fuck up for five two at some point. They come back, that shit was sick. Lucho shout, Columbia Crazy goal, Harry Ka with his big fucking English ball, just scoring goals all over the place. Um, and lye with another banger. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're playing. So definitely the tie of the round next round. I just hate that it's overshadowed where it's just kind of like, um, PSG Byron obviously was a fantastic display. I think Arsenal and at Leddy was fantastic, obviously in a different way, more tactically in my head and just kind of just kind of. I mean, PSG, Byron Hat Tactics, they just said, we're gonna play wide open and let's see who owns the fucking shootout. Which is crazy. But, um, yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it.

Christian

What don't you like?

Will

I, I, I, go ahead.

Jerrell

gambling addicts out there, if you put a hundred dollars on Kain, Bel Oli say, and Lucho Aldi score, you would've won $5,000.

Will

Double down next week.

Jerrell

Yeah, no, absolutely not. I saw the line on, on the app and I looked at it and I was like, I know they score. There's just no fucking way

Christian

And, and Lucho are so funny to watch because their, their play styles are completely different. Like Oli say, you watch, it's so effortless. He's just like fucking snaking

Jerrell

gliding.

Christian

like, through like the field. Just getting past everybody. It looks so effortless. His shots effortless. Every move he makes effortless Lucho looks like he's fighting for his fucking life. Every time he has a ball. And he's getting, he's getting by defenders. He's making amazing stops. Like that final go from Lucho was beautiful. How do you, how do you like, I don't think somebody's gonna be able to do that three out of five times. Um, they're both amazing players. It is just fun to watch how different they are on opposite sides of the wing.

Will

Yeah. Yeah. Um, Lucho, I, the more, I watched him with Byron and they've been playing really aggressive under Vincent Company, the more I remember last year when I was like, 75 mil. That's a lot. I was just like, I, I get it now, I get it now. Um, I understand why Barcelona was rumored with him like three times over like the last six years. There's just like his work rate effort, um, and his ability to score big goals, um, is fantastic. Michael Elise say, I think it was rumored that, um, like leadership and Byron said like he's approaching like, um, like Philip la area and just kinda like, um, you know, the history of like fantastic wingers they have back there where it's like you could offer us 200 million and we wouldn't move him because he's just that valuable to us. Michael Elisa will probably be up for, um, this like, uh, we'll be in nominations for that as well as like Harry Kane probably as well. Um, but what a fantastic game. Um, as a neutral, I now understand what it felt like to watch, um, enter Baral last week because I was shitting myself the whole fucking time going through hell. Heart palpitations, but this is even more class because everywhere around the field you see like, oh, he's a star. He's a star. He's a star. He's a star.

Christian

I think. The bond would, uh, will have a lot to do with how far Lucho, Kain or Elisa go into the World Cup.

Will

Yeah. The World Cup year, that always a fun. Yeah.

Christian

they'll, they'll be able to, um, to, to, uh, how far they'll be able to take their team because Lucho is only three goal contributions behind Elisa.

Will

Yeah, it, it's funny as fuck. Well, and then you get into like, well do these like things cannibalize the one another or whatnot. Obviously like, um, out outside of the other team, if Columbia makes a deep run, Lucia's name goes up, obviously, right? 'cause he's gonna be the key reason. Um, but then you're looking at, um, across the, and I was just like, am I smoking crack? Um. Loose. He's had like great year. I think he was able to score, um, in this type who didn't. Um, but also I was just like, I think he's played like 30 or 40% of his league minutes for PSG, which, hey, at the same time, if France makes a deep run and he has a big part of it, they're just like, well, you win UCL in this. I'm just like, it's all a media award. It is just kinda like, Hey, favorites a little bit and how can you really rewrite? But I really feel like. If Byron is able to progress, I feel like, like if it's not Harry Ka this year, then when, right. England probably makes a deep run in the tournament. Um, he's been fantastic, I think all year consistently, uh, um, for Byron and they're winning everything and, um, and domestically. So kind of where I'm at, headed into the summer.

Christian

The frontline for France is fucking terrifying. have in mba, you have dele, you have,

Will

Do I.

Christian

who's playing Amazing. It's, yeah, it's kind of crazy.

Will

Yeah, France is deep. Okay. Wow. But let's talk about the US men. No, I'm fucking,

Jerrell

Captain America.

Will

fuck, fuck. I set myself up for that.

Christian

it's in there, bro. This is.

Will

so, so what's the final you got going on? Um, like, who, who, who goes from who advances in each side? Byron at home, Ural at home.

Christian

Um,

Will

Elliot Drew.

Christian

slightly biased, but I'm gonna go Baron

Will

Yeah,

Christian

Advances and, uh, definitely biased on the other one. And I'm gonna say Arsenal Advances, and then I'm just gonna watch my, my beautiful arsenal. Just,

Jerrell

styles clash.

Christian

yeah,

Will

that is that Shadow AJ Styles only. I know what that means. It's okay guys.

Christian

Yes. I'm gonna say, uh, Bayer Beats Arsenal in the final.

Will

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't give out free content dog. Just bear an arsenal. I can't wait to hear about it Next week when we, when we dive deeper into that eventually. Damn. How about you drill?

Jerrell

Yeah. Uh, yeah. Byron Arsenal,

Will

That, ah, fuck, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of there too. So God knows we're about to get a fucking PSG at Fin Euro League happened as well this week. Um, Villa, um, did you guys see how Villa lost?

Jerrell

Absolutely not.

Will

So,

Christian

You mean happened three hours ago?

Will

yeah, I know. Fair. So, uh, watch the clip. Um, so nine him for his wins on a penalty. The funniest penalty that was giving away this week as we were doing. So, Lucas Dne of, um, he's been all over Europe. He played for Barcelona for like, he was a backup for a little bit. So I, I, I know I'm familiar with this game. Um, he thought a ball was going out along the touch line, and I don't remember the Nottingham force, uh, winger at the time. It might have been Rogers, I'm not sure. Um, so to signal that the ball was out, he started to do that thing defenders like to do where he raises his hands. And he, the ball was played in to save the ball and it hit him in his hands along the tightest of angles though. So if you watch again, watch, uh, get a chance to watch it. And that's how Villa lost today. And well, outside of that was, um, a pretty even game. Probably would've been fine headed into next leg of your villa. Um, so forests are up one. Oh. Um, I also put Baraga and Furry Burger. They played. Two, one result for bragga, uh, rein Portuguese, uh, Portugal over Germany in that time. But yeah, watch, shout out Lucas. DI We don't do winners and losers, but losers right now would be Lucas Dignon if they don't pull it out. Second leg.

Christian

I'm watching that penalty right now. What the fuck

Will

Yeah, I'd be def, maybe that's why also I came a little, was like, bro, it could be worse. We could lose like that guy. So.

Jerrell

The last game of the season. Just need, just need the win.

Will

Co Co. Oh fuck. We sound like that, bro. That that'd be a atlantian. Um, style of collapse. Uh, conference league went on as well. Crystal Palace through, uh, we're able to be Shaar Dunnet, uh, three one Rival Ball. Kano Beats Strasberg one oh. Um, I firmly believe that probably the Premier League side, um, that advances will win both of these competitions.

Christian

What

Will

I'm gonna be rooting against them. I know we're Premier League, uh, podcast, but, you know, share the love, share the love Rao pride of, uh, I remember Fal Cal scoring timely goals against, uh, Barcelona and breaking my art. It was great.

Christian

Yeah. Old as shit in his, in his, uh, farewell tour. Yeah.

Will

Honestly, one of my biggest soccer regrets is I didn't get to see Prime Velco

Christian

Oh, it was so beautiful.

Will

was just like, should I change jerseys? No, no, no.

Christian

And then he fucking, uh, can you imagine the 2014 World Cup if Al didn't fuck up his knee? We made it to the quarterfinal time and fucking drove that train. But what al

Will

Juju

Christian

It would've been so nice.

Will

sliding doors.

Christian

Can you imagine, uh, al. Lucho, Gudo, Hames, frontline,

Will

Oh shit. I can't wait for us to do.

Christian

in their prime.

Will

World elevens based off our limited football knowledge, uh, coming before the World Cup. I'm gonna give you the Dominican 11, but it's gonna be all baseball. Um, drill. You wanna go?

Christian

do the world? How are we gonna do the World Cup pod in Portugal?

Will

You got a mic?

Christian

We're, going to be in Portugal,

Will

Yeah.

Christian

for our fans that want to skied at us. Um,

Will

Wait, I, I just, I feel like we're losing the plot.

Christian

yeah,

Jerrell

on.

Will

Give it to me hot. Give it to me hot and fast.

Jerrell

Match

Will

Hit him on the chin with it.

Christian

I was just talking to my boys.

Jerrell

Lee Westham or, uh, Brentford will host the best ham in Westham.

Will

Drill is a little flustered, but he's bringing it back

Jerrell

Yeah, they got a new nickname. Maybe I'm, maybe they're my catfish too.

Will

Him is crazy.

Jerrell

I ain't no Eastham. Oh, west Castle

Will

West Castle.

Jerrell

Wol, uh, wolves in

Christian

Worst castle.

Jerrell

across London to the other ham, the full

Will

Oh gosh. Oh brother. Oh God. I see it already. Carry on.

Jerrell

Cherries play host to the Eagles Man, United Take on Liverpool. Ton Villa versus Spurs trying to keep the Spurs down. Chelsea versus Nine Ham Forest, the Spurs score five goals against

Will

Do they go Ham,

Jerrell

Yeah. Uh, the nothing ham an Everton versus

Will

please, Molly. Molly Bushel. I will buy. I'll buy a jersey. I'll buy your lean. I'll buy your toffee, please. Molly, if you're here for the first like 10 episodes of the of the pod, do you understand what that means?

Jerrell

to buy in Everton

Christian

our listeners, uh, he's busting out the Ouija board

Will

Oh,

Christian

contact the

Will

Molly. Molly, I'm, Hey, if I'm willing to sell, sell the next game tonight. If Everton can come through this weekend, that's huge.

Jerrell

won't know

Christian

crazy.

Jerrell

the weekend.

Will

By the time you hear this, I may be eating my words. Oh, fuck.

Jerrell

um, so if you were to have an Everton jersey, what player's name would be on

Will

Oh man. I can't get bushel. Oh, absolutely not. Um, in DIA winger, I think No looking, that's thing. Or, or no? Yeah. I'm gonna start there. I'm gonna start there. I'm gonna look at their, there's squad, actually. I, they're all boys. They're all little boys. They're not, huh Uh, someone told me he was ass, so,

Christian

well.

Will

hello?

Jerrell

End. With that we conclude

Will

wait. No. Yeah. Thank you.

Jerrell

Pod.

Christian

Perfect Pod

Jerrell

Thank you for joining us. I hope you had a good time.

Will

India. Yeah, fuck it.

Jerrell

Will's full defense of Arsenal was

Will

It's not a full defense. It's like, Hey, I get shit. Shit was,

Christian

WW Will Alexis get slapped and abused and you're just like, just do it to me one more again.

Will

Hey, bro, if, if slapped and abused means I'm clear. I, I'm clear of 17 other teams that happen to be able to touch my shit and I'm also like with one busted tire rear view windows out. And I, you, you tell me I have a chance is where I'm at. I'm, I'm Matt Damon. In Interstellar. It's pretty much where I've at. It's like for 20 years you've been on this planet and now you want to throw it away, um, off like that 50 50 gambit. It's just like. These are the best odds I've had in years, brother. Then I'll fucking take it, bro. I'm just like, you know, so, but yeah, I'll be stress watching and stress life tweeting with you guys every, every step of the way. So.

Jerrell

Any other shout outs? Christian, before we

Christian

Shut out Montreal, uh, from earlier today.

Jerrell

full circle moment.

Will

My second favorite city. Shout out the expos Vladi gu. Huh?