Switch to Channel 2 Audio Podcast with Bo Stuart

In this episode of "Switch to Channel 2," Donny McGuire welcomes retired Lieutenant Colonel Bo Stuart, a former contestant on "Naked and Afraid" and a US Army veteran. Dive into this engaging conversation as Bo shares the story behind his bold decision to join the survival show and offers insights into his military career. Listeners will gain an inside look into Bo's experience on "Naked and Afraid," including some of the challenges and fears he faced, like dealing with piranhas in a lake.

Donny and Bo also discuss their shared military experiences, the changing landscape of drone technology, and the reality versus Hollywood's portrayal of military operations. They delve into Bo's career transition to working as a civilian for the Army in Italy, his take on conspiracy theories, and the nuances of military training and special forces selection. The pair even find time to talk about their recreational interests, from fast cars and evasive driving to Bo's unique perspective on sports and his adventures in Europe.

Tune in for an episode filled with captivating stories and enlightening perspectives, all with the signature humor and camaraderie of Donny and Bo. Don't forget to check out Donny's YouTube channel, Go for Donny, and his website for more content and cool swag.

00:00 "Switch to Channel 2 Podcast"

03:14 "Impressive Survivalist Skills Noticed"

09:30 "Returning to the Army"

10:33 Military Experience: Drones and UAPs

14:25 Secrets Can't Be Kept

19:15 Military Documentaries: A Bird's Eye View

20:39 Military Training Schools Overview

25:40 Solitude Shapes Resilience

29:28 "Top Gear's Stupid Car Adventures"

33:21 "Special Forces Medics' Goat Lab Training"

34:43 Combat Medics: A Different Breed

37:16 Women in Soccer: Amazing Players

41:12 Regret Not Traveling Abroad

43:34 "What Are They Doing?"

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Transcript

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Have you heard of the new addition to the Go for Donny! podcast? I haven't either, but it's called Switch to Channel 2. That is where Donny will get to ask his guests some questions so you, the listener, get to know them better. And remember, # HTFU. Hey, guys, welcome back to Switch to Channel 2. We have Bo Stuart here, retired Lieutenant Colonel Bo Stuart, US Army. Thanks for joining us and sticking around to have a little chatter here, Bo. So about Switch to Channel 2 is, you know, whenever we're on set, when you're on set, I don't think you had, oh, you had a walkie, but you weren't able to. To put it anywhere. But we, whenever we had chatter, we'd always switch back and switch to channel 2, and that's where we'd have a little chatter. And it seems like everyone else would always switch to channel two to listen in. So I thought this would be a fun little idea of a podcast, Switch to Channel 2, where we can just have a little chatter. So welcome back. It's good to see you. And just to recap, so everyone knows how we know each other, we worked on an episode of. Of Naked and Afraid when we say we worked on it together. I was there. I was a production manager. I was clothed. Bo was there. He was a contestant. He was not clothed at all. So I guess the first question, really, Beau, I've been wanting to know is why in the hell did you do Naked and Afraid? You're very accomplished in your military career. What made you decide to do that? Yeah, so my kids, when the first episode aired, one of my kids watched it and they came up here, said, dad, you got to see this show. And I'm like, okay. So I watched the first episode. I'm like, oh, dude, I can totally do this. I'm like, this is in my wheelhouse. Like, so I literally went to the website that night, Discovery Channel put in my application,

and like, the next morning, they called me at 9: 2:00

00, said, hey, we want to have you on the show. I was like, okay. And then, then, then it was about negotiating for time because, like, taking, you know, 20. I think I. At the end, I probably took 25 days off from work. And, you know, you have to coordinate that ahead of time. Your army's not real fond of letting people go for 25 days. So, yeah, so there was. We had to work off the timing. But yeah, once the timing worked out and I was like, okay, I was able to throw it off. So, I mean, it sounds crazy the whole Idea. I was like, I think that's where a lot of the contestants on there are. Like, I didn't have any, like, plan that that was going to get famous or beyond, you know, or the TV part I didn't care about. I was like, that's a challenge, and I want to try it. That was the whole reason. But, well, I mean, it's. It's pretty cool. It's pretty ballsy of you, I will say, because I. How many episodes did I do? I think I did five. I think I did five episodes of Naked and Afraid, and I did five episodes of Naked and Afraid Clothed. So even doing one episode without clothes, to me, is just. I don't know, it's just. It's just almost insane. And just to recap, again, I think we talked about it briefly, you know, when I showed up down in Guyana, where we were filming, you know, when I got to set and met everyone and you. And immediately we got on because we talked about the army, because we were both army vets. Um, and I was so impressed, like I said before, of. Of what you had there, I couldn't believe, because the other episodes that I did, you know, not to take any away from those contestants, but they were not anywhere close to the caliber of survivalist of you, you know, to where you had to fashion a rack for all of your weapons, for all your spears, where. I've. I'd never seen that before, you know, and the other four previous shows with contestants, I mean, they were. They were, you know, still hurting to find water. So it was very impressive seeing that. Yeah, some of it was because I. I had a. Because, you know, I was season four, episode 11, and so I had a lot of time. I watched every episode, you know, up until we. I left for filming. So I was able to watch what other people were doing and say, oh, that's a good idea. I'm gonna steal that. Or, that's a good, good idea. You know, I'm gonna take that one. So there was an advantage there in that and having the experience of watching so many other people do it as well. Was there anything you were deathly afraid of doing that you saw one of the contestants doing that you didn't want to do, let alone on camera and being, I don't know, in Special Forces. No, the one I was a little worried about with the piranha, because I was like, I'm wading through this lake, and there's piranha in this lake, and, you know, let me get my junk bit off. So, yeah, That's a, you know, that's a concern. But then after, you know, you wait in there for a while and you're like, okay, I haven't been bitten or even nibbled. Like they're running from you. They're not. It's not like the movies where you see, you know, someone sticks their foot in. It's like, it's not how it works, you know, that they're afraid of you. Oh, my gosh, that's so funny. I don't know if I'd jump in anywhere with piranha. I mean, Jesus. So. I mean. I mean, so I've seen guys, you know, I think you said you tanned before you went, so you made sure you had a base tan so you didn't get sunburned. Right. Which in the end, I don't think we probably wouldn't need it because we had that canopy of trees over us the whole time. So the sun wasn't. It wasn't that bad. But, you know, one of the episodes, one of the early ones, they got burnt so bad they had blisters and they could barely move. And I was like, okay, I just want to make sure I avoid that, you know. Yeah, F that. Or the. I don't know if I talked about the chichin. Is it the chichin tree? I don't know if it's in. In Guyana, but in. In Central America, that thing is like one of the most poisonous things in the whole world. And, you know, just being close to the spores, I got. I was just so close to it. The spores got onto my leg and got me and it'll bubble up and it's a. It's a pretty gnarly thing. But we had a couple of contestants that, you know, like I said, well, you know, you went through it. I mean, when you're water and sleep deprived and food deprived, I mean, you're just not thinking straight. And they decided to set up their camp right next to the chichen tree. They also burnt some of the tree, burnt some of the wood. And not knowing, they decided, I mean, smartly, they were going to use ash to put it on their body to cover their body from the sun and protect them from bugs and stuff. Well, that ash had burnt chichin. Yeah, yeah. So they had. They. They're. Oh, man. When we got there, they were just so gnarly. Their bodies were red and blistery and. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know if you're afraid of anything like that or if any of the. Any of the ribbing that you would get when you got back to your unit, you know? Yeah. I mean, of course, if people were gonna. They were teasing me before I left. So I got. When I came back, I knew it's gonna be, you know, they're gonna be busting balls like, like you always do around the army. You know, soldiers, they're always. Was Even more so when you got back. Or was it a little respect or what was it more like? Shit, Bo. You actually did that? You're fucking nuts. Yeah, there. Well, it was lots of congratulations, actually. People were like, hey, man, you really made the regiment look good. And you depicted us well, that's cool. You know, so that, that part's pretty good. That's really cool. Oh, my gosh. Well, that's. That's just crazy. You're still crazy. You're still crazy. You're still elite. You and what you got like $4 and 30 cents out of it after taxes were taken out of whatever you got, probably. But you got that prestige. No, yeah, it definitely wasn't. You know, you don't. You definitely don't do that for the money for sure. So did they even give you the satchel or anything? Like, say, hey, like, here you go. They will let you keep everything. But my. Mine stunk so bad. I'm like, I'm not taking. I'm not putting this in my book. It smells like ass. You know, I'm like, no, I don't need. I'm not bringing this home. They can keep all that. You all definitely smelled like ass after. I mean, everyone just was so knackered. And the transformation, seeing, you know, what happens to your bodies just from the weights and then, yeah, you can get. That, that protein burning smelling when you're, when your body is burning your own flesh with energy. You have that stink about you. Just not. Not good. God bless. Naked and afraid. And it's still going too, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what season they're on now, but they're up there. They're up there. The Survivor, like, episode, you know, season 80, 87. So are you. So you're out of the military now. You're working for the government over there? Yeah, well, I, Yeah, I'm out as an activity service member, but. But I still work for the army as a. As a civilian. Got it. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. And how are you liking that transition? I love it. Well, hopefully I don't get doged here anytime, any, Any, Any day now, but we'll. We'll see what happens for Now I have a job. So I mean, isn't it scary? I mean, you'd think you'd, you know, with, with what's happening with all these cuts that you'd be glad that you're just out of the active duty and you're not getting touched. But I mean, you're still getting, you know, they're still slashing civilians, civilian workforce as well. They let me say activity longer. I would have, I was at my maximum that they let me stay in. But the good thing was, is I stepped away for four years where I had nothing to do with the army. I was out. You know, I taught high school for two years and then I administered. That's right, Tennessee for an insurance company. And that gave me great perspective and, and I was like, if I could ever return the army, I would. And this job popped up that I was, you know, well qualified for here in Italy. And I was like, I'm. I'll watch out for the chance and do it. Oh, man, that's so cool. I mean, I, you know, I think we talked about this. You know, I was just so immature when I was in and when I got out, I just, you know, I did it. And I just wanted to run from, for the hills. But I had a good time because we were, I know I was stationed in D.C. in the honor guard. So I think it felt like all we did is we trained, you know, maybe we did some parades, some funerals. We drank a ton of beer and then we drank some more beer and then we ran and trained and you know, it's just this vicious cycle of. Like life of a soldier. Right. You know, wrapped it up being a professional

drunk, you know, getting picked up at like 4: 10:37

30 in the morning, you know, with some, some old Hueys and flying down to Belvoir for some great training. Oh, those are the days, you know, so, so you got that. So what? You know, I'm sure you see him over there. But you know, lately, this last couple months, we've been having a lot of these drones and UAPs and orbs and all this crazy. And there are some of your, your colleagues from your specialty in, in the army that have some shows and that are pretty into this and I don't, I don't know what to make of it. I mean, I go down the rabbit hole sometimes. I, I don't think it's all fake, but I just want to know what your take on it just from just you and then you being in the military, if you maybe saw anything or, or if you feel anything. It. It is a growth industry. Like in Ukraine, the use of drones is through. I mean, like, it was nothing like it was when I was in. I mean, yeah, we had drones and we most part, like we had, you know, overhead surveillance that are big government platforms. But now, now they're doing it with off the mark, commercial, off the shelf drones. You know, you can buy off of Amazon, you know, hook a bomb to it and go drop it on somebody. And they're crazy everywhere. And so those same lessons of people flying drones there are, you know, they're not restricted just to Ukraine. So everybody's picking up a drone and flying around doing, you know, do whatever they want because it's so hard to regulate. How do you, you know, yes, you say we want to regulate airspace, but trying to, you know, enforce that is. Is another whole thing entirely. And isn't it crazy, these kids, you know, I mean, I really wish I remember, you know, our parents telling us, you know, stop playing video games. You know, get out and get an education and stop playing video games. And now you're like, man, these drone operators are these kids that are really good with their thumbs and joysticks, you know, in virtual reality to where. I mean, we didn't have that. You know, we were kids. The Atari wasn't giving us any, any mobility for anything that they had in the military at that time. So it's kind of cool to see that there's a whole, A whole industry out there that, you know, you can transition into, into the military or out. Of it, you know, skill set. I know when we were in Nashville, before we here back to Italy, they had like, at Christmas they had a whole drone light show. So it was like a couple hundred drones are all in the air at the same time, you know, making these patterns and, you know, rearranging themselves as a Christmas tree or snowman or animated things. And you're like, it's mind boggling how. How fast that industry is, has grown, has. Has gone and that you can manipulate them so easily and collectively, you know, like in these huge. Because like, when you have 100 drones in the air, you don't have 100 drone operators. They're not flying that. Like, they're programmed to do this. You know, someone set it up and they all take off at the same time and they do their show and whatever else. But yeah, possibilities are like endless. Absolutely. So what about all these new drones that have been popping up on the east coast and everywhere that seem to be changing shape too? Yeah, I don't I'm not sure I buy in that into that. I mean, people, people see what they want to see. And, you know, some of it's just a regular passenger plane, some of it's somebody's legit flying a drone. But, like, you know, as far as orbs and UFOs, and I'm not buying any of that. There's like, here's the thing about conspiracy theories. I'm not, I'm not a conspiracy theory guy at all. And, and the reason is very, very simple, is because humans cannot keep secrets. Like, they can. They can't do it. Like, if two people know, it's going to get out. Like, you know, you can keep a secret of some, you know, two people can keep secret if one of them is dead. But other than that, like, someone, someone's got to run their yapper. Like every secret thing that we do in the United States, every classified unit. So SEAL Team 6, the Altar Force, you know, any of the other units out there, everybody's got to go write their book and get their moment in the sun and let everybody know that they worked on this secret thing. So, like, there are no secrets. Like, if there are, it don't last very long because someone's going to write a book about it, you know, or. They'Re gonna have a podcast and talk about it. Yeah, they're gonna post it on Reddit or I'm sunk. Yeah, yeah, that's all good points. That's all. That's awesome. Some really good points. So what about your, you know, you've had such a storied career in the military. Is there anything, like, any stories you can share with the audience that, you know, anything crazy that you dealt with that you saw that people might want to know? Because, I mean, people, I mean, I don't know, people are fascinated by just the military loan and then all these specialty units, you know, and anything that happens out there. And it's not Hollywood ized either, you know, I mean, I know Hollywood, they throw a nice shine and big explosions and bunch of bullshit on something that is so simple. It is so tough for me to watch war movies now. I'm just like, it's ridiculous. And, and they're the ones that. Some of them are famous. What's the one that. About the tech. He's running around doing whatever he wants, blowing stuff up and going outside the wire. Like, none of that. You're like, none of that never happened. Like, it does not happen. It doesn't, it doesn't work that way. No one takes off their bomb suit to go work on a bomb like that. Then, yeah. Oh, the Hurt Locker. Hurt Locker. Oh yeah, that is. And it won so many awards. I think it is the absolute worst war movie. Like nothing. That was my war. I was there. I saw like, I lived with the bomb techs who were working on that. That didn't look anything like that. Like it's. Isn't that horseshit? So doesn't that just suck when they have to do that? I feel the same way. I, you know. Well, I will say when I saw that, the one about the take down the White House, like the White House down or, you know, I was like, this is all. I'm like, they can never do this. This is all. This is all. And then after seeing recent events in the last few years, I'm like, I don't know, maybe that could happen. Maybe, maybe someone could easily jump the fence and bum rush him. But I will say for, for any, any train movies, like there was a Runaway Train movie with Denzel Washington that I watched and Chris Pine and I couldn't stand it. It was so. It was such bullshit, you know, so when I watch shows or movies, when you have that knowledge about certain things, you just, it just drives you crazy. It's like, why do you have to do that? Why do fabricate so much? That's Hollywood. I guess it's the same as reality tv. Like the producers, they're trying to make a compelling story. They do not care about accuracy at all because that's not their job. They're not making a documentary. They're making an entertaining movie. And so they have to do all those things to make it entertaining. And it's a shame because it takes away from the real life experience for people who are in those events and they gotta make it like over the top. Do you think? So are there any, any movies or shows that you think are really true that really do show? Like the movie Restrepo is about my unit, the 173rd in. In Afghanistan. I wasn't in the unit when they filmed that, but I got there right after that. But Restrapo, Restrepo, yeah. It's a outcome in Vietnam or in Vietnam in Afghanistan. And it depicts. And you see it because it's just, you know, two, two guys filming soldiers at war over 15 month period of time. Now they didn't stay the whole 15 months with them, but they came back multiple times, back and forth. So you get to know all the characters in that platoon and see them under. Under fire and how soldiers you know, react to that. The black humor soldiers are. And you know, they're not soldiers. There's, you know, nothing is off limits around other soldiers and, and you see that it comes out and it's, it's, it's portrayed, you know, really well. I'll have to check that out. I like that than watching, you know, some of the terrible ones that, that said, like, was it Band of Brothers was a great show that, you know, I think hit that and Flights of Our Fathers. Well. So that they try to make it accurate. Much better. Yeah. And I think I, I mean, I've. Yeah, it feels like a lot of the older ones, they can be a little more accurate with than the, the newer age ones. Are there any documentaries out there that you think are really great at times? You know, I, I did Survive Surviving the Cut, and then they also did Two Weeks in Hell, so they did Two Weeks in Hell. First that it was on Discovery, I think. And then we did the show Surviving the Cut and that was a lot of fun, sending crews out and being embedded with the different specialty schools. It was really cool to get a bird's eye view from that. Have you seen. Did you ever catch that? I think I saw parts of it. I don't think I ever watched the whole thing. But yeah, it's always good to get a good capture of what it's really like because people, the myth that surrounds like special units and stuff, you know, make it. It tend to be like. It's unbelievable. It's like. And, and these schools are hard. I've done most of them, you know, but they're not impossible. These people aren't. People who are doing these things are not superhumans. They're. They're still regular human beings. Yeah. But it's just that the myth that comes with it often obscures the reality of the, of the event. Can you, can you ramble off some of the schools you've gone to? Just so I know. I mean, Airborne Ranger School, Halo School, the Q course, Sears School, that's about it. But yeah, and like I said, they're all, they all have their. Some of them are harder than others and some of them more useful than others. And it's just, I don't know, it's interesting and it's good to build skill set and go to those schools and improve yourself as a soldier. But yeah, sometimes people get too focused on that. Like I, I will say Air Assault School, which is one of the earliest ones I went to. I think I went to aerosol school. Air Assault and then I went to air Assault after Ranger school. And I remember being there, and I was like, what's the point of like, okay, we're sliding down the rope of a helicopter. I got it rigging up bags for stuff to get carried around and then going on a road march. I was like, does this school really need to be 10 days long? We could probably have done this in two days. You know, it's the army. Everything's going to take long. Aerosol. Where'd you go? Where'd you. Air Assault, Schofield Barracks, Hawaii. Ah, Schofield. So Schofield Barracks is where I first signed up to go to. That was my first infantry unit. And I was going cohort with my buddy Mark Samuel. Rest in peace, buddy. We were going cohort, and we were both wrestlers. I wrestled 168. He was our heavyweight. And we decided, hey, let's. Let's. We're dipshits. Let's go join the army. Let's do it together. Hey, let's go to Hawaii together. So we were going to go through everything. It was going to be great. And then the marines got a hold of him, and then he changed. Changed his orders late in the game and. And he went in the Marines. And then I was going to Schofield when I went to. To Fort Benning for basic and AIT and that's where I got recruited to go to the honor guard. So I really wish I would went to Schofield to check it out, but. Yeah, it's a great place. I. I grew up there as a kid. My dad was stationed there when he was in the army. So I think from fifth to sixth, or fifth to. Yeah, no, fourth to sixth grade. I lived there. It's great. Great place to grow up as a kid. Run around in the jungle and, you know, build. Same thing I did. Naked and afraid. I just had clothes on. I was a little kid. That's how you get your chops right there, huh? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, my gosh. So do you think that there's any. You know, there's always reality shows about everything. Do you think. Do you feel there's anything that did the army or any specialty units any justice? I mean, I know they have their special forces when filming now. I can't think of the. Off the top of my head, mainly because I don't watch. I don't watch them because I'm like, I don't need a show to tell me what it is. I went there. You lived. Yeah. You. Like, I need to show. Yeah. Yeah, some of it suck because it's not. It's not sexy to film. So, like, especially for this definite selection. I know they had it two weeks on it, but, like, they're not going to have somebody follow you around in the woods for six hours at night filming nothing but you cussing because you're getting poked in the eye with branches or whatever. Like, that's not. That's not sexy. Or it's not. You know, it doesn't make for good tv. But that makes up a good portion of the Special Forces selection course, right? You're by yourself, navigating through the woods with a time standard and trying to get places day and night. But that's not. And I think probably the other part. Why. Why. You probably don't see as many shows, particularly about special U.S. special forces training. And you see it all the time with seals, because seals do all theirs and like, all of their. Their whole selection hell week. Everything out is in a very small area. Like, like, you know, it's the size of a couple football filters. The ocean's there. They got like an obstacle course. Maybe they go out and swim to an island and come back. But it's very concentrated, super easy to film. They're always all together. They don't do anything alone. They're always doing it in a team, which. Which for me. And when you're in Ranger school, that's the way it is as well. You're. You're always in a group, in a squad or a platoon or something. And so you. You can take energy from other people. You know, like, you look over and you're like, I'm sucking, but he's sucking more of me. I can make it longer than him. That gives you a little bit of, you know, gas that you're like, okay, I can make it. I can. I can do this. But when you're. When you're by yourself, there's nothing. You're just in the woods and you got this heavy rucksack on your back and you're exhausted and you got lost because you can't. You don't know where you're at. You're like, okay, I'm gonna be late. This next point, like, that's when the pressure really starts to build up because there's no one to. To take energy from or to, you know, wash and say, oh, I can. I can go larger than that guy can. That's why to me, it's hard to keep up your motivation by your. By yourself. And there's several other, like, delta Force does their selection the same way. Like you, you're by yourself the whole time. There's no one to lean on. There's no. You're not going to, you know, have somebody cheer you on or take, you know, energy from somebody else because it's just you. And I think that makes for a different kind of product or selection. Like at the end of the Seals selection, you get a different product. At the end of Special Forces selection of the arm, you get a different product. They're similar tough guys and guys you can endure and they're in shape and all of those things. But the real premise of what you're looking for is slightly different. It all comes with. From within. Yeah, the more the individual soldier. That's pretty good. Hey, that's some good insight that, that I didn't know. Thanks for the insight, Bo. Hey, have you ever done anything so, you know, I, I come from the car world, Top Gear, love cars. I like driving fast. I like doing stupid shit with cars. Hi, Hudson. And my dog's here. Have you ever gotten to do any evasive driving in the military? And we got to go down to Quantico to. Or the FBI. FBI have a defensive driving course there. Yeah, but have you got to do any of that? Yeah, Yeah. I went to Bill Scott Racing. He runs a course we were, we were training up for. We were doing a mission in South America where my guys were going to be out for like nine months and they're going to be going around in civilian SUVs, not in army vehicles. And so we're like, hey, let's, let's go to this Bill Scott Racing out of course, where they do off road driving in SUVs. And so that was fun. It was a ton of fun. We got to go out there and learn how to inflate a tire with hairspray and a lighter, which. That was pretty cool. Oh, yeah. And. Yeah. And how to lower a car. Like, like the whole car was. The class was done in like Jeep Cherokees and he had one Cherokee out in front and chained up to another one. And then you lowered him down off the cliff so he like you helping each other down. You could lower one down and the other guy's like, he can't follow. But it was really interesting. And then just getting, getting things stuck unstuck, how to use the jack, the high lift jack and all that stuff. So, yeah, that was fun. And then at Blackwater, I did another class Mobile Force Protection where we were driving around a serpentine track with, with four cars so we had to get to have all four cars had to be touching. So like, so you picture 1, 2, 3 cars and then one back and. Lined up in a. In a row. Yeah. So bumper. What is it? It's asked. I know, to work. Okay. Door to door. Yeah. Practically touching. And then the one, the one in the back, the fourth one had to stay on the bumper of the person in front of you. And then we drove this. We did it in the daytime. Then we did the, the most interesting part. We did it at night with nod, so no lights on, just with your night vision goggles. And that was high adventure. Trying to like going around the track and they're like, all right, change. And then the one in the back had to pull forward. The one on the top of the L had to come and get back in that position. And so there's lots of, you know, you know, rubbing is racing kind of thing where you're like, well, just crunch the door panel, you know, so. So that was fun. And then how to pick people or, you know, take the person out in front of you by, you know, and you don't ran. It's not, not like it is on tv. It's really gentle. You come up, put it on there and slowly come over and spit them out. So, yeah, that was fun. I love that. Kind of like, I can't believe the army's paying me to do this, you. Know, and, and so that's, that's kind of what we did on Top Gear, like day in and day out. Top Gear, Yeah. You know, the stupid that we got to do. And that's, that's. Oh, that's one of the reasons that this whole podcast came about is because all the stupid that we got to do and all the stories we told about all the stupid we got to do. So I'd always show up to set and, you know, if the hosts weren't there, they would chuck myself and another producer or two in some vehicles and we would do a lot of driving. And so, you know, you get to do some stupid, like drifting a 35 foot motorhome around a dirt track in North Carolina while the other hosts are in these homemade RVs, drifting around their cars too, you know, hitting each other. But it teaches you, it shows you what a car can do and how you can feel it. So when you're bumping, you know what it feels like, you know, when it's going to cut loose when it's not. And I think it's good training, which, you know, we didn't get that in the infantry. I don't think they did a lot of that training in the motor pool either, you know, back in the day. No, no. One of the. I remember one of the really cool things we did one time, and this was just a shooting course that we. I done on Bragg where we. We had a car and they had. It was like a Ford LTD or whatever, and they had it running. And then they. And we had our whole class lined up and it was like 40 of us or whatever. And so I gotta. And we all had our imports. Okay, how many. How many shots do you think it'll take to disable this car, people? Like, five, ten. You know, whatever it was, it took 27. And. And everybody would go up there and take their own shot. Some guys were shooting at the engine. They were. Some guys were, you know, shooting at the gas tank. And. And at the end of the 27 shots, I mean, it was leaking gas, was leaking radiator fluid, everything. But it was still running. It was still running. It finally stopped running. The only reason that it stopped running is because one of the shots of the 27 hit the fuel line and the engine just wasn't getting fuel anymore. But, wow, it took all that shooting and just kept on going, you know. So that part was. And then. That was perfect. It was before a rotation going to Iraq, and it was like, okay, so when you think you're not going to fire 10 shots at this car and it's going to stop, it's not like you're not going to kill the car, you're going to kill the driver. Wow, that's invaluable information. So did you guys learn. I mean, what did you learn? The driver. That's how you disable the car. The driver. Like shooting at the car is not. It's not going to benefit you. You shoot the driver, man. All right, that's good to know. That's so cool that you guys learned that. But so invaluable, you know, I mean, I'm sure, you know, you'd get in situations like that, like even driving and shooting from car, car to car. You know, we call shooting car to car with cameras not. Not guns, but. Well, and the cars are. No protection thing is bullets. I mean, none. Like with a pistol bullet, it'll go through both sides of the car and keep on going with no problem. Like it hit the glass, through the metal. Nothing. And a rifle bullet. Oh, yeah, there's. I mean, it's straight through. The only protection on a car is the engine block itself. If you can hide behind that or at the axles, like right in the middle of the axle. Because in a snow produced a tire. Go straight through the rim. It'll go straight through. But if the actual break and everything else, that, that will, you know, shield it a little bit. But yeah, it's not like it is on tv. People hiding behind cars and bullets are nick or, you know, ricocheting off. No, they're not. They're going straight through and getting you. So that's good to know. Let's just shoot where they are. It'll go straight to the car again. So did you guys do real life? I mean, I assume you did kind of real life situation training for just about everything. Because if you don't, how are you going to know? Right? Yeah, we. They used to. When I first came in, I was like, q course. And this was competence and aspiring. So when the medics go to the course, as an officer, you spend a little bit of time watching everybody's training and all the other special forces specialties. And one of the most memorable training is when we went out to the medics training and they have a. What used to be called the goat lab and they anize a goat and then they shoot it, they give it some injuries and then go set it up in the woods and then they call the medic comes under and he has to save the goat. And it is confidence and inspiring to like. And we were there as to be an extra set of hands to help them, just hand them stuff and do whatever they wanted to do or put pressure on a wound. And that built so much confidence in me on our medics because they're so, they're so good and they've done this rotation so many times. They've seen every injury. They've seen, you know, airways shot, arteries shot out, broken legs, broken arms, burns like, you name it. And they've done it on live tissue, like not a simulation. And dummies are great. All those. That's good training. But there's nothing like trying to save a living thing. That's living and breathing. Super confidence, inspired. Wow. You don't think about that. I mean, and, and God bless all those, those medics, you know, those combat medics that can detach themselves emotionally and keep moving forward. That's hard for any soldier. But I mean, I think anyone in the medical field especially you have to be a different breed because, you know, you're seeing the worst of the worst and you're having to deal with it hands on, you know, in a Timely manner too. And, and you have no time to, you know, you know, no time for emotion, you know, so it's a different breed of person, I think that let alone to be in a, in a combat unit such as yours, you know. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because they're also SF trained. They're not just medics. Right, right, exactly. Yeah. They still have to do all the other things. They still have to move, shoot and communicate. And on a special force team, everyone has their specialty. But you still have to get good at all the other skills as well. So I love that you just said shoot, move and communicate. Man, I just had so many memories. Just flashback so quick like that. Yeah, that's, I mean that's soldier basics and everybody like, that's the. At the heart of what we do. That's it. Like, if you can do that thing well, you'll be fine. Just figure out the basics. Slayer. Like people think that it's all these advanced super, you know, skills that are coming handy. It's, it is super communicate. If you do that and you do it well, you'll be fine. You can, you, you'll, you will figure the situation out. I love that. But I'll say something like that, you know, around some, some, you know, non military people and they're just like, what the, what the did you just say? Like, what, what, what does that mean? Like, like, oh yeah. You don't get it. You don't get bracing the suck. You know, all these little things that, that only a few select of us actually know about. Man, that's so cool. So are you, you're over in Italy. Are you becoming more of a footy fan now? Now that you're there and if so, what team are you supporting? It's funny, I don't really follow sports at all with the exception of the uscs. So I kind of, I'm a huge MMA fan. But that's like. Other than that, I don't watch any other sports. So you're living in Italy? Oh, Bo, I say I'm, I'm a huge soccer fan. I'm soccer and F1, Formula One. Ferrari. Love Ferrari. Well, I take that back. I am, I am a women's World cup fan. Oh, okay. Okay. My wife and I went to the Women's World cup and be able to watch this year. So it was great. I love it. I used to coach, I coached high school girls soccer for our city soccer and club soccer back in the day and loved it. I miss it. And yeah, the women watch. The women play are amazing. One of my good friends, Jacob Tudella, he has a club, a soccer club out here in the, in the Valley in Los Angeles. And he has a couple of players, young players, Sophia Smith, I think, that have come through his team and are playing for the US Team now. So it's really exciting to see because these kids are just, you know, they're freaking amazing and they're, and they're, you know, women. I think, I think women's soccer was number two for concussions right after football because of how they just really go all in. You know, women go all in when they're playing. I mean, it's, it's great to watch. Man, I, I can't believe you're not a footy fan. I was getting excited because I watch, I watch soccer, you know, all the time. And, and we have some really good American players that are playing in Italy right now. Captain America, Christian Pulisic, he's playing for, for AC Milan. So it's Timothy Way plays for them. And then I think Musa and McKinney played for Uve. So it's really fun to watch on weekends, watch all these Americans play and that let alone, you know, in Europe is too. So, yeah, like, some of the things about soccer frustrates me because I don't like it that somebody doesn't win. Like me, in a sport, somebody has to be the winner. And at the end of 90 minutes or 100 minutes or 110, if no one's won, just keep playing, someone's going to win. Like, I don't know how we allow games to end in a tie. It's a sport you play until somebody wins. So, yeah, it's, I mean, it's hard. I mean, I, I want, I want some winners as well because the draws are so, so hard to watch. But man, I tell you, after playing that long, boy, it's. I. These guys are elite athletes and just anyone having to play, you know, that long in any sport, sport, especially soccer, is just. And then, and then going to penalties after when your legs are jelly and you're trying to even walk, let alone put the ball in the back of the net with some 6 foot 8 keeper. And I don't like the, the offsides rule. It seems to be the most worthless rule in sports. Like, fine, if they want to park a bunch of their guys down there by the call, who cares? And like so many goals get called back because of that rule. I'm just like, just take people away and let them play. Like, what are you doing? It would flow it would flow even more. And with they have Var Video assistant referee that slows the game down a lot. And it's usually never right as it is. But, I mean, I can go from watching soccer right to Formula one, back to watching soccer in the afternoon. So I love the sport, especially Formula one. Ferrari, it's coming up here in a week, couple weeks. They start. Bo, it's gonna. You're gonna start hearing. It's a loud, loud engines there with Lewis Hamilton running around Italy. All right, all right. I'll keep my eyes cool. So. So what? So you're in Italy. So what. What do you think is next for you, for Bo Stewart? Are you gonna stick around Italy, stay with the government? Is there anything else on the horizon for you? Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I. I'd like to stay here, you know, for a couple years at least. So. Yeah, I love living in Europe. That's one of the reasons why took a job here. But, yeah, we'll see. I don't know. I. I don't have a master plan. I don't have a place that I. That I absolutely want to retire. With the exception of Spain, I could do. I'm kind of narrowing it down where Spain I want to go. But, yeah, I think I'm slowly getting my wife on board and another couple trips, I think I'll have her on the boat. I. I heard Portugal is pretty nice as well. It. I've been to Lisbon once, and we love Lisbon as well. So I'm so excited for you guys about being over there. And that's one thing I really kicked myself once again. I was so immature when I was in the military. And back then, you really didn't make much as an enlisted soldier, so it wasn't as easy to just pick up and travel around. And I really wish I would have taken advantage of being on the east coast and going to Europe or, you know, I did up and down the. The east coast in. In the States, but I really wish I would have traveled abroad and took advantage of that. So. Yeah, it's a lot easier to travel here because Europe's so much smaller. Like, I mean, you know, and they have a lot more discount airlines. It's much cheaper to travel here than. It is to travel in the U.S. yeah, you can. You can drive seven hours and get somewhere where you drive seven hours. Here you're. You're almost somewhere and you're still in the desert. That's so cool. But I love that you take advantage of everything over there. You're skiing. You're going to the Alpsky skiing as well, it looks like, right? Wow. Well, you keep. You keep fighting the good fight for us Americans over here that don't get to live over in Italy. But if you ever hear any jobs coming up, let me know. I'm all for it, Bo, but. But, hey, I can't thank you enough for. For taking the time again. I know we had a little WI fi issue after we filmed our last show, and. And now here we are again. A little stuck double and a little longer hair, but we made it work, so. But, hey, thanks, Bo. Guys, don't forget to check out Bo on Go for donnie on my YouTube channel at go for Donnie. You can also come to my website@gofordoni.com and check out all my cool swag that I have. I'm wearing my hat right now. We have some. Some blue and white ones. Gotta crank that out. And we got some fun little. Little sticker swag, too. Something to throw on your pelican case or. There we go. You know? Get it? The walkie go for me? Yeah. Check it out. Don't forget to like and subscribe. Oh, Stuart, thanks for coming, man. I really appreciate it. 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