The Courage to Start Over with Corey Perrigan

In this episode of Life Unfolded, I’m joined by Corey Perrigan—founder of Wild Soul Brand and a fellow creative entrepreneur whose journey is a powerful reminder that life doesn’t always unfold the way we expect… but sometimes that’s exactly what we need.

Corey shares what it looked like to follow the “traditional path”—college, marriage, home, family—only to realize he was living a life that didn’t truly feel like his own. After years of quiet misalignment, it took both a breaking point and deep inner work to begin rebuilding a life rooted in authenticity.

We talk about:

•  The difference between the life you’re “supposed” to live and the one that’s actually meant for you 
•  The “feather, brick, or truck” moments that force change 
•  Navigating divorce, identity shifts, and starting over 
•  Mental health, personal responsibility, and doing the inner work 
•  Building a business that reflects who you really are 
•  Why peace—not success—is the most valuable thing you can gain 

Corey’s story is honest, grounded, and incredibly encouraging for anyone who feels stuck, out of alignment, or ready to make a change—but unsure where to start.

If you’ve ever felt like you were living someone else’s dream… this episode is your reminder that you don’t have to stay there.

Connect with Corey and view his outdoor products:

wildsouldbrand.com

Instagram

Facebook

Connect with Melody:

mjmediaproductions.net

Instagram

melodyjordanmusic.com

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back to the show. I'm so glad that you're here. I am joined by a colleague, turned friend, Corey Perrigan. Corey and I met actually through a nonprofit called Oregon Brain. I was working on a client project and needed some help with the graphic design work and uh got connected to Corey Batway, and it's led to a great working relationship of collaboration and friendship. And I kind of feel like I need to change the name of my podcast for the power of networking, because I always talk about that, but it's so true. Corey was born and raised in Corvallis alongside his two brothers and sister. Growing up, his days were filled with sports, camping, fishing, and hiking, experiences that helped shape his deep appreciation for the outdoors. From an early age, Corey also had a strong connection to art. Painting and drawing were more than just hobbies. They were things that made him feel grounded and inspired. He pursued that passion throughout school, taking art classes in middle school and spending much of his time in the art room during high school. Encouraged by a teacher who saw his potential, Corey decided to continue down that path and went on to earn his bachelor's degree in graphic design from the Art Institute of Portland. After college, Corey met his future wife and the two built a life together. They married in 2009, built a home, and raised two amazing children. After nearly 15 years, their marriage came to an end, marking a significant transition in Corey's life. He now lives in a farmhouse that once belonged to a friend where he's embraced a new chapter. In 2024, Corey started his own business and continues to build it while prioritizing time with his children, friends, and the local Albany Corvallis community. When he's not working, you can still find him doing what he's always loved: camping, fishing, hunting, hiking, and spending time in nature. Welcome, Corey. I'm so glad you're here.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Happy to be here.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

Well, let's jump right in. Let's go back to the beginning and tell us a little bit about growing up, who you were before the world told you who you're supposed to be.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

I think that I really feel like I've always been really true to like who I am. So looking back like at my childhood, I feel like there's still a lot of like that child in me now. Like, I don't, there's a lot of things that are the same, but looking at like the path, right now I feel more like that child than I ever have. Part of that is I feel like I was on this kind of path like everybody else. Like, okay, we graduate high school, we go to college, we meet somebody, we get married, we have kids, we buy a house. Like, I like I've I've had some funny conversations on that same topic where a friend of mine said called it the American nightmare. And it's like, you know, it's like we're programmed to like go through this process. Like, this is the American dream. And it's like, I don't, I don't think that that's the case at all. I mean, it is for some people, I'm sure, but like I I feel like I was ended up being somebody I'm not in a way that I was trying to like be what somebody else wanted me to be. And that, you know, and I think that that was like a major issue for me. And I really feel like now I am that person, you know, that I was when I was a kid. Like it's just I've been allowed to be myself and ultimately not live somebody else's dream, which is what I was doing. And it took a lot of I knew that over the as year the years progressed. I I knew I was living someone else's dream. And I thought, if I am going to, I don't want to die on my lie in my bed, you know, wondering what if I started my own business? Like, why didn't I do that? And so now I just feel like it's very authentic what I'm doing, how I'm living. And so that's been really cool. Like that's been probably the one of the most fulfilling things in my life is doing what I feel like I should be doing, not what somebody else thinks I should be doing. So yeah, anyway, that's kind of what what I would say you know, answers hopefully that answers the question.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

No, yeah. It definitely does. And I think that's really cool how you said you feel like you almost feel like childlike again, like like you, like your true essence, which yeah, it can take some hard times to get there, but uh doesn't it feel good?

SPEAKER_00 5:14

It's oh yeah, no, it feels amazing, you know, and like it it's really sad that it, you know, that it took some really hard things to happen for me to get there, not just for me, but other people. But ultimately, like I anyway, I I'm sure there's lots of people out there who have been in that same situation, you know? And it's almost like you don't have to be stuck. And it's really and it's really, really hard, really hard to get out of. I have nothing but admiration for other people who have dealt with similar things, and you know, it's you know, uh it's like being in a trap, even though and it's really unfair to like call it that, but it felt that way. But anyway, I it's just a whole new, yeah, whole new chapter in life, too. You know, it's like everybody goes through those chapters, you know, and you know, it's exciting now, and it's also scary, you know. I dealing with this new reality of you know, not being outside of this routine that I was used to for 15 years or more. But I'd gained peace, and that's the biggest thing, I would say. Like that was the biggest asset that I gained was peace, not just within myself, but everybody else too, you know? And it's just been really I didn't value peace until I'd been through what I've been through. And it's probably the thing that I value most in life now.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

So that's definitely one of those things about life where it's the things that really matter, you just can't truly appreciate it until you've been through you know, the opposite for however long it takes, I guess. But I like what you said too. Yeah, the American dream has become the American nightmare. And again, not for everybody, like I think for some people that genuinely is what they want. But I don't know, for me, I always just want people to like I would just say, like, get out and experience something different and just make sure that it's actually what you want and not just like like you said, living somebody else's dream or what somebody else wants for you. Um yeah, I think that's kind of powerful.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Yeah, and I think that that's the biggest thing is like we make these decisions based on what we're and that's when it goes back to like talking about the steps to you know getting married and having kids and all of these other things. It's like it's gotta be like the right person. Like that is huge. And I, you know, I was 26, 27, and honestly, I still I don't think I knew enough. You know, I didn't date enough, I didn't know enough about what this relationship was supposed to be. And it was there were red flags like crazy, you know, but I didn't I was that young and not, you know, well educated on that. And so it's kind of like it it's gotta be, yeah, the right person is really uh the biggest thing, you know. And I I thought, hey, this person's really good at the things I'm not good at. We would compliment each other, but it was more like oil and water instead of you know a cohesive partnership. And so I think you yeah, I think people just need to kind of really be aware of what um what a relationship should be. And I know it's easier, you kind of have to experience it too, to kind of know, but you know, conversations, listening to podcasts of people that have been through it, you know, those are some things like we have a lot of tools at our disposal now to make the right decisions. And I think like knowing yourself too is like a very important thing. Like, I think when I was 27, I don't feel like I knew myself, you know. I I had to go through, you know, three, four years of like solid self-work with a counselor, mentor, you know, not saying everybody has to do this, but to me, like my counselor changed my life. Like, literally was like the person to pick me up when I was at my lowest in life. I mean, alcohol problems, you know, and it was just all a uh band-aid or a, you know, it was not not good, you know, car accident, broken foot, broken ribs, broken sternum. Like it was a bad mess, and I got out of it, and it took a lot of work. And so, you know, I I'm kind of just telling a little bit of my story, I guess. So, but I was, you know, able to overcome that. And and circling back, like mental health is a huge issue, as we all know. But yeah, my my counselor and mentor was amazing and super got me to where I'm at today.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

So thank you for sharing your story. Yeah, I think it's awesome that you were able to advocate for yourself in that way and and getting guidance that you felt like you needed. And I agree with you for sure. Mental health is really important, and I'm glad that you made it to where you are today. You kind of already answered the next question, which is fine. Okay. Um it was the breaking point, like what moment changed everything? Could be a major lag event or a quiet realization where you knew something needed to shift.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

So well, you know, I can elaborate on that. So there's it was more than it was actually both. There I had a major life event, yes, but I also had this quiet thing that I just and I don't want to call it I hate so I would say I use this word I I was suffering in my marriage, and it took a bad event to kick start this growth process. And there's a guy that I listened to, his name's Rob Dial, he's the mindset mentor, great listen. If you ever want a good podcast to listen to, he there was one analogy he uses, he calls it the feather, the brick, or the truck. And what that means is, you know, you know something's wrong. There's the feather, there's the little tickle, there's the the brick, you know. I I'm reference, I'm gonna reference alcohol because that was what it was for me. So the the brick for me was this car accident. Thankfully, it didn't wasn't worse than it was, but that was the brick. You know, the truck would be maybe I'm thrown in jail or I kill somebody, you know. So, so I really like that analogy. And, you know, I think it could apply to like pretty much anything, you know, if really like trusting, you know, your instincts and your intuition, I think it's really important.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

So I totally agree with you. That's a great analogy for it too, because at least in my experience, like there has been that little the feather has been like the first thing where it's like that quiet voice. It's almost like just this like inner knowing or this like whisper that's like, hey, this is not the right move or the right path, or you should this is not you. And if you continue on, then like you say, the life's gonna throw you a brick and be like, this is not for you. And yeah, if you keep going, eventually it's gonna come to a head because if you're not living in alignment with who you actually are, like it's there's gonna be so much tension in your life, you know, in anybody's life. And uh I think that's where a lot of mental health struggles come from and identity struggles, because we have been trying to like fit into this mold or you know, not let people down. And in the end, it does lead to it, it can lead to you know major consequences and yeah, living living like authentically and true to yourself.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

And I that's the biggest thing is like I think people really need to look inward, and I think in doing that, I think there'll be a lot of discovery and it will really help people shape like their path, you know, and I think that that is really like one of the most critical things to living a happy life and growing, and you know, all of that. I think that that self-personal development has been like one of the best decisions I've ever made to pursue. And I think every br every single person on this planet needs to be, you know, needs to look at themselves and work on themselves. And in turn, I think we'd all be happier people.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

I completely agree, for sure. Let's talk a little bit about the unfolding and you know, the rebuilding that you've been doing in your life. Tell us what's been going on, what are you working on? What what have you we've talked a little bit about like steps you've taken to reconnect with yourself, but talk about what's come out of that.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

Well, my rebuilding began on July 19th, 2021. And so it's been this ongoing process. I, you know, was badly injured, went through therapy and you know, surgeries and all this stuff that happened way back then. And then it's been this really cool personal journey rebuilding myself. And honestly, it's been an amazing thing. Just I've gained such an appreciation for life and you know, my my children, and I I feel like I'm a great example to them. I don't have to worry about like making bad decisions, or you know, I'm just like I get to do I get to live life like every day with purpose and intentions. And I think that you know, I had to make some tough decisions, and I had to do it without numbing out on alcohol or whatever it is, you know, it's like I had to sit with that discomfort or whatever it is, and and just say, you know what, it'll pass. Like you just go through that, you know, when you're when you have hard things happen, it's like just wait it out. You know, I've had moments where I'm driving across the bridge into Albany and about to hyperventilate over something, and it's like I know it's gonna pass. So like being able to make those kinds of like like really direct my personal life the way you know I want, that's been the a big thing. And then this journey out to this house, like unbelievable. Like, I'm so incredibly grateful for where I live. You know, it's an old farmhouse, it's cold. There's bugs, there's bats, there's mice, there's you know, nature trying to get in. My cat brought a mouse in the other night, like, but you know, and I've put in tons of work painting and had the electrical redone, and I mean certain outlets, but you know, put in all this work, and but then I get to go outside right now. I'm looking out the window, and there are cherry blossoms and a whole bunch of turkeys right outside my lake.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

I thought I heard turkey.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

It's like, how cool is that? Yeah, you know, and so and then I've got this lake like right up my my driveway, and I can my kids can come fishing and go swimming in the summertime. And it's like my best friend lives up on the hill, and it's like really just so amazing that I got sorry I got here and the lady that I'm renting from is a good friend, and I just remember like giving her the biggest hug because it was like I just landed in heaven, and that's been the biggest thing. Like I've I've never been happier in my life. I want to see my kids more, but like just so much amazing stuff, like helping her do her garden yesterday, or you know, getting to drive my four-wheeler out to the back and you know, take photos, like it's just been amazing. And anyway, I don't know if I'll be here forever, but but that's just been part of the process. And the but the biggest thing is just pe having peace. And even my kid's mother, you know, she's at peace, and we are very cooperative together. We still give each other hugs, like there's no bad blood. It would just, it didn't work, and that's fine. And my kids are happy too. It's just, I don't know, it's it did not go the way I thought it was gonna go, you know, start to finish. Even the whole process was quick. You know, it was like six weeks, we're done. And it was just um, you know, so that surprised me. So there was all that fear of that whole process, and I managed to get through it without you know, it just wasn't what I thought it was gonna be. And that's like a lot of things that happen in life. You know, you think we project this idea that oh man, it's gonna be this really painful process, and there's so much fear, and that fear, I just decided, okay, I'm gonna walk through the fire. And turned out the coals were not that hot. So so yeah, you know, I think I think that's been the biggest big part of the growth was just this awesome transition, and now I can just be myself.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

So that's really beautiful. I'm happy for you. And yeah, I'm glad for everyone involved too. It sounds like it really has worked out the best that it could. And I'm so agree.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

Yeah, honestly, it's just it doesn't always work that way. So I feel very fortunate, not just in this situation that I'm in now, but just that my kids also are better, you know. They're not seeing things that they shouldn't see and hearing things that they shouldn't hear. You know, it's just it was a bad example, and hopefully, you know, there'll be better examples down the road. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Yeah, no, I think that's such an important message, too, is that the way you know societies try to shape the way we live isn't necessarily the best way, you know. And it can cause a lot more damage trying. Trying to force something that just isn't it shouldn't be forced. So this place where you live in that sounds completely magical. Is that something that inspired the name of your company that you started?

SPEAKER_00 22:20

A little bit. So my company is called Wild Soul Brand. And actually the the idea came to me in the middle of the night. And I'm sure a lot of people have had these moments where you wake up and you're like, oh my God, this is everything is like clear and you have this moment of clarity, and you're like, I gotta write this down, kind of a thing. Well, ChatGPT had just started when I, you know, and so instead of taking notes, I started this conversation that just went on and on and on. And you know, I came up with the name Wild Soul brand, and it came up with a bunch of names too, but I I liked mine better. So and it so this outdoor brand, I'm kind of doing it backwards marketing-wise. So I create products under this brand name that I feel speaks to a broad audience of people, and and then I'll kind of micro target individual products under that name. So I don't know if that makes sense or not. But anyway, so yeah, my goal is to turn this lifestyle brand into a bigger company and sell products, and that kind of it's it's kind of a culmination of like everything that I've done in my career. So I've done graphic design, so I do that. I've also done product development, so there's that too. Package design, you know, webs, web website design, just all these different elements that I feel like kind of have been a part of my life, all kind of coming together. And all the elements that I love about the things I've done in my career, I get to do all at once with this company. So that's kind of the kind of the outline of like what I'm what I'm trying to do.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

That is so cool. That makes me like feel giddy inside because I feel the same way. And I love how like life leaves little clues. Like every endeavor that you do, like you can pull all the pieces together and it like suddenly all makes sense. And that's really cool to see you doing that with Wild Soul Brand.

SPEAKER_00 24:37

Yeah, no, totally. And that yeah. Well, and yeah, it's it's been really cool to also see Melody do her thing because one of the funny things that she's doing, it's not funny, I just it resonates with me, and I see it because I'm like, I do the same thing. It's like she's got like her photography, her music, like her podcast, like all these different things, and she's good at them all. It's just I kind of feel like I do the same thing where I'm like, you know, I'm designing the packaging, I'm sourcing from China, I'm like just working on my website, like doing the advertising, like just I think that she's talked about before, like being a creative. We try to like do a lot of different things, and I just I feel like that's been really fun to like watch. Like somebody else, we don't do exactly the same thing, although we do overlap a little bit, but like it's just been fun to see somebody else kind of like operate in a similar way that I for sure.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

It's been really well it can feel really lonely as a creative entrepreneur. I mean, I know there's like hundreds of thousands of us out there, but you know, a lot of my inspiration comes from podcasts or you know, people on social media across the country or in another country. And so having that camaraderie is really cool, or seeing somebody, you know, nearby, it's like, okay, I'm not alone, I'm not crazy. Like people are doing this, and I can do this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

Yeah. No, it's it's really cool. Um, I and I do see it in other people too. It's just, yeah, and I I probably need to listen to more podcasts on the creative side. I've I'm it would be really neat to see what other people are doing too. So anyway, yeah, it's it's been really fun.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

So I there are a lot of I feel creatives that listen to this. What would you say is I don't know. Why don't for some reason I'm feeling like I need to ask you about your trade show experience? Like, what did you learn from that? How do you feel like you grew professionally? How does that help to you in your business? Would you recommend it, etc.?

SPEAKER_00 27:05

I think it's like any marketing tool. So there's people that only do trade shows. And so it's kind of been I've always wanted to do one. That's actually been one of my like life goals, which may sound kind of dumb, but I always thought it'd be fun to like go do a trade show. And so I needed to get in front of my audience. You can't do everything virtually, like, I mean, I guess you can people do it, but I that's not how I work. I'm very much a people person, and I just thought, hey, it'd be fun to one design the trade show booth. So I got to use all my creative design skills for that, and then was able to get it to my house. And then I had I knew that if I was gonna go do this trade show, that I would need to be like ready, and that meant I needed to have like I wanted to be able to collect social media, like people sign up to you know follow me. I needed to have like my credit card processing. There were just so many things that were needed to come to get be tied together, and it did, it worked, and I'm I don't know how I did it, but I did it. And I would recommend it. Like if you're try, especially if you're trying to sell a product, you know, you learn a lot about what your audience is looking for. And so I was able to get you know over 50 emails of people who are interested in my next product. You know, I had them say, I'd I'd tell them, hey, is it okay to get your email and I'll let you give you updates on the progress on this project? So I actually was able to gather a lot of information about, you know, and people were really engaged because they were interested in like what I was showing them. I actually have this seat cushion thing that heats up. So when you're sitting outside, like at camp or in a boat or a wherever a duck blind or whatever it is, it warms up, it's super comfortable. It's in the process of a third.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

We'll link it in the show notes so you can buy it.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

Yeah, right. But I had a I had a version of it, version 2.0, and I was showing people, and I mean it was people were interested. So I'm like, all right, I better uh make this thing.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

So that's awesome. I love how well I love how that was like a dream of yours, and you actually made it happen. And it's like just do the thing you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 29:42

And that's that's been the other thing, like part of this whole journey is like when you're doing it on your own, like entrepreneur or whatever, like it's just cool that you can actually do the things that you like dreamed of. Like, this would not have happened four or five years ago. Like, I'm like, I've always wanted now. I can when I get to the end of my life, I can say, well, I did do a trade show, and that's something I wanted to do. You know, it's just like we all want to like check stuff off our bucket list, and it's like, oh well, I guess I can say I did that. So um, and I am gonna do more because I did get a lot of value out of it. And so there's some people that's all they do, and they do really well. I think I would do better on my next one, like sales-wise, but I still I sold products and it worked. Could have been better, but it still I did my best. I put my best foot forward. I wasn't sitting behind the booth watching people walk by. I was out there talking. So, you know, I feel like you know, that's the other thing about everything we do. We know if we did our best or not. Other people don't, but we know. And so that's the other really cool part about this entrepreneurial journey is like I can say, did I choose to sleep in later or did I get up and actually work on my website? You know, there's it's been really neat in that way too. Just it's you I I've had to learn how to like hold myself accountable, and I'm still doing trying that every day. I mean, I think everybody has the same battles, you know, with ourselves and also with you know, our phones. Like, I I'm really getting frustrated with myself a little bit, and that I'm on my phone too much and I know it. And I'm just gonna be honest, and I think everybody can probably attest to that. So yeah, I'm you know, and and removing distractions is how we move forward quicker. And I that's one of the things that I'm you know working on as well as I'm sure other people are too. So that's great.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Thanks for sharing that. I think that'll be really inspiring and helpful to whoever is listening to this. A few signature questions. What does life unfolding mean to you?

SPEAKER_00 32:13

I think that life unfolding, I like that a lot. There's a lot that just happens and we don't have, we don't know it's what's gonna happen. You know, we think our life's gonna look one way and it doesn't look that way, you know. There's good things, there's bad things. You know, that's that's kind of how I think about my life as it progresses and moves along. Like, I'm gonna have things that are gonna be bumps in the road. I'm, you know, things that are scary. I've got some things going on that kind of scares the crap out of me. And you know, but I know that it'll change. I'm you know, so a lot I go through my day like and look at like all the pluses and minuses, you know. Every day is that way.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

What excites you the most about what is unfolding in your life right now?

SPEAKER_00 33:09

I'm really excited about what I'm doing with my business, but I also like I'm really excited to watch my kids grow up and you know see what amazing people they're turning into. That's been really awesome. My the my kid's mom and I put them in this little you know Christian school and during COVID because we didn't want my son's first kindergarten experience to be, you know, on a screen. So they did all in person, all masked up and everything. And you know, that school turned out to be like just an amazing place, very small. They got like the attention they needed and small class sizes, all of that. And it I can already they're in public school now, and I can already see like how that school really shaped who they are. You know, obviously, you know, good parents and all of that, like that's obviously plays a big role, but it's it's been really interesting just to see how they interact and just what great people they are. You know, my son is just so considerate, and I see how he treats other people, and you know, that's been really awesome to see and be around, you know, and I and I always try to let them know, you know that hey, that was a really nice thing you just did right there, you know, things like that. As far as my business goes, that's been really, really cool. And I've just been uh able to work with a lot of great people, and that's been a lot of fun. It's been really a really uh I've learned a lot and the direction that it's going, I feel great about. And so I don't know, I've just I've got a lot of exciting stuff going on. I've I've actually started uh doing a lot more fitness, so on this, you know, health kick has been really cool too. And that's and I and that actually has been more to deal with my mental health first. I am a strong believer that I probably have attention deficit disorder, um, and I know that every a lot of people do, but I've been following a couple people who have talked about how you know exercise makes a huge difference, and I'm definitely already noticing that for their mental health, and then obviously physical as well. But you know, that's just another another aspect of my life that I am trying to shape now, and I I haven't put as much emphasis on that over the past few years, but I think making that part of my life is is making a big difference. And so, you know, that's another thing.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

That's awesome. I love that. I agree with you on health and fitness just being so important for mindset, and it's honestly just a really good metaphor for business, I find, you know, like you don't see results day of, you have to keep showing up and it's gonna hurt. And you're just gonna be like, How much longer do I have to keep running? Or how many more reps do I have to do? And you do it, and then eventually you see the results. Yeah, I think yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:53

Yeah, and actually now it's been kind of fun because I'm to the point where I'll actually get mad at myself if I don't do it. And you know, and I and I very few days have I not, so it's been really it's kind of become this routine that's been very positive.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

So thank you so much for being open and willing to share, you know, things you've gone through and and what you've learned from it. I think that's gonna offer a lot of inspiration and encouragement to people who are probably going through the same things and you know, maybe need to hear hear from other folks who have gone through it too. So thank you for sharing.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

Yeah, I mean, and I I think the biggest takeaway for me was that no matter how scary it seems, you just have to jump off the you just have to pull the ripcord. And at some point, everybody gets there. And I waited a long time. And I think that you know, I would always have I'd have conversations with my counselor and she would say, like, you'll know when you're ready, you know, you'll know when the time's right. And you know, deep down I knew it would never last. And you know, it and I think that I was very careful to not like create a big train wreck. You know, I was very careful with that. And because I cared so much about my kids and my and you know, I still care about my kids' mom, but you know, that whole process, same kind of thing. Like there's everybody has emotions involved, but you know, you also have to think about yourself. Like, is this what I want for the rest of my life? You know, anybody that's going through it, like you know, you're you'll you'll know how to do it, just be careful and yeah, just keep other people's other people in mind as well. And yeah, I don't know. It we only live once, and everybody needs to live their own life and do what makes them happy.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

That's great advice. Where can people connect with you?

SPEAKER_00 39:13

I'm on social media, my business anyway. Wild Soul Branded is my Instagram and just Wild Soul Brand on Facebook as well. And then Corey Perrigan also is, you know, I have my own Facebook, but I don't go on that as much. I've been posting on my business site a lot more.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

So is it wildsoulbrand.com?

SPEAKER_00 39:38

Oh, wildsoulbrand.com too. Yeah, wildsoulbrand.com.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

It's cool outdoor gear. It's really well done. Well, thanks so much, Corey. I appreciate you being here.

SPEAKER_00 39:50

Thank you.