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But if"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":541.536,"endTime":543.976,"body":"you compare those, you'll find"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":543.976,"endTime":547.316,"body":"that it's generally about a"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":543.976,"endTime":547.316,"body":"third to even as little as a"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":547.316,"endTime":550.342,"body":"quarter of the size in volume."},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":547.316,"endTime":550.342,"body":"Now, if you need to add in a"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":550.342,"endTime":553.802,"body":"tarp in case you're gonna have"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":550.342,"endTime":553.802,"body":"any sort of rain, those again"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":553.802,"endTime":557.902,"body":"are really tiny and they can fit"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":553.802,"endTime":557.902,"body":"into nearly any bag. 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And then I"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1277.685,"endTime":1280.627,"body":"have a tarp on top of it, well"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1280.627,"endTime":1284.532,"body":"basically protect even further"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1280.627,"endTime":1284.532,"body":"against the rain. Now, during"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1284.532,"endTime":1288.612,"body":"the MOA rally, we actually had a"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1284.532,"endTime":1288.612,"body":"huge rainstorm right in the"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1288.612,"endTime":1291.712,"body":"middle on Friday evening. It was"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1288.612,"endTime":1291.712,"body":"really torrential downpour"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1291.712,"endTime":1294.466,"body":"coming down. And I went and"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1291.712,"endTime":1294.466,"body":"checked on my hammock a little"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1294.466,"endTime":1297.586,"body":"bit later in the evening after"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1294.466,"endTime":1297.586,"body":"it had stopped raining. And all"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1297.586,"endTime":1301.786,"body":"my gear was completely fine and"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1297.586,"endTime":1301.786,"body":"dry. No problems whatsoever. So"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1301.786,"endTime":1305.537,"body":"my gear hammock really did what"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1301.786,"endTime":1305.537,"body":"it needed to do. So these are a"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1305.537,"endTime":1308.517,"body":"couple of workarounds that you"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1305.537,"endTime":1308.517,"body":"can use if you want to do"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1308.517,"endTime":1311.917,"body":"hammock camping. And I will"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1308.517,"endTime":1311.917,"body":"caution. I will say, like, for"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1311.917,"endTime":1316.717,"body":"example, the YoboGear Turtle Bug"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1311.917,"endTime":1316.717,"body":"that I'm using combined with the"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1316.717,"endTime":1320.837,"body":"hammock, it is going to be"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1316.717,"endTime":1320.837,"body":"bulkier than just a regular"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1320.837,"endTime":1323.987,"body":"two-person tent would be if I"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1320.837,"endTime":1323.987,"body":"think of the total pack size."},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1324.852,"endTime":1328.992,"body":"But for me, the advantages of I"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1324.852,"endTime":1328.992,"body":"can basically set up anywhere."},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1329.772,"endTime":1332.362,"body":"It doesn't matter if I'm on a"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1329.772,"endTime":1332.362,"body":"slope. It doesn't matter if I"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1332.362,"endTime":1335.822,"body":"have roots underneath me. It"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1332.362,"endTime":1335.822,"body":"doesn't matter that I have to"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1335.822,"endTime":1339.282,"body":"worry about even water pooling."},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1335.822,"endTime":1339.282,"body":"All these advantages to me, plus"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1339.282,"endTime":1343.682,"body":"the comfort, make it worthwhile"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1339.282,"endTime":1343.682,"body":"to me as an option to bring. And"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1343.682,"endTime":1347.659,"body":"it's really not that big a deal"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1343.682,"endTime":1347.659,"body":"just to throw stand into your"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1347.659,"endTime":1351.619,"body":"bag as you're going onto your"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1347.659,"endTime":1351.619,"body":"trip. So I really like these as"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1351.619,"endTime":1355.939,"body":"options and the workarounds. I"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1351.619,"endTime":1355.939,"body":"think do solve any of the main"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1355.939,"endTime":1359.228,"body":"issues that someone will have of"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1355.939,"endTime":1359.228,"body":"they may have held off on doing"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1359.228,"endTime":1362.368,"body":"a hammock. And I would encourage"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1359.228,"endTime":1362.368,"body":"you to try it out. If nothing"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1362.368,"endTime":1365.255,"body":"else, just get like one of those"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1362.368,"endTime":1365.255,"body":"relatively cheap, ENO, hammocks"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1365.255,"endTime":1368.275,"body":"just to try at home. They do"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1365.255,"endTime":1368.275,"body":"make some camping versions. And"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1368.275,"endTime":1371.102,"body":"the other big thing I'd say with"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1368.275,"endTime":1371.102,"body":"the camping version and this is,"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1371.102,"endTime":1373.162,"body":"I think where some people get"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1371.102,"endTime":1373.162,"body":"confused. They'll think, oh,"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1373.162,"endTime":1375.842,"body":"it's the same open hammock that"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1373.162,"endTime":1375.842,"body":"I have for the ones that I use"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1375.842,"endTime":1380.582,"body":"at home. Well, no, a camping"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1375.842,"endTime":1380.582,"body":"hammock actually has a mesh"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1380.582,"endTime":1383.082,"body":"covering over it, just like your"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1380.582,"endTime":1383.082,"body":"tent would be. So it's going to"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1383.082,"endTime":1385.822,"body":"protect you from the bugs and"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1383.082,"endTime":1385.822,"body":"everything getting in. And you"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1385.822,"endTime":1389.802,"body":"zip in and out just like you"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1385.822,"endTime":1389.802,"body":"would normally do. So you're not"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1389.802,"endTime":1393.782,"body":"just sitting fully exposed into"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1389.802,"endTime":1393.782,"body":"nature. You have the mesh and"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1393.782,"endTime":1398.062,"body":"the bug screen all around you as"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1393.782,"endTime":1398.062,"body":"well. So they're really, really"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1398.062,"endTime":1398.532,"body":"comfortable."},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1400.663,"endTime":1404.093,"body":"So let's wrap up. I"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1400.663,"endTime":1404.093,"body":"started with why I think moto"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1404.093,"endTime":1407.193,"body":"camping in general is awesome. I"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1404.093,"endTime":1407.193,"body":"talked about some of the other"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1407.193,"endTime":1409.583,"body":"options that are out there, be"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1407.193,"endTime":1409.583,"body":"it backpacking tents, bike"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1409.843,"endTime":1414.533,"body":"specific tents, motorcycle"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1409.843,"endTime":1414.533,"body":"specific tents, like the Redverz,"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1414.533,"endTime":1417.453,"body":"or even some of those all in one"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1414.533,"endTime":1417.453,"body":"options, like the ones from"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1417.453,"endTime":1420.913,"body":"Wingman on the Road. And then we"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1417.453,"endTime":1420.913,"body":"went into hammocks. So we talked"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1420.913,"endTime":1423.713,"body":"about some of the benefits that"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1420.913,"endTime":1423.713,"body":"you'll get from them from pack"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1423.713,"endTime":1426.913,"body":"size to doing double duty. You"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1423.713,"endTime":1426.913,"body":"don't need an extra chair. You"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1426.913,"endTime":1428.853,"body":"don't have to really worry"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1426.913,"endTime":1428.853,"body":"yourself about whether that's"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1428.853,"endTime":1432.765,"body":"flat ground or not. And there"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1428.853,"endTime":1432.765,"body":"are some of the most comfortable"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1432.765,"endTime":1435.215,"body":"places to sleep that you can"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1432.765,"endTime":1435.215,"body":"possibly do when you're camping."},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1435.295,"endTime":1438.265,"body":"That's really one of the"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1435.295,"endTime":1438.265,"body":"beautiful things about it. But"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1438.265,"endTime":1440.965,"body":"there are also some limitations."},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1438.265,"endTime":1440.965,"body":"You have to make sure you have"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1440.965,"endTime":1443.305,"body":"trees that are at the right"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1440.965,"endTime":1443.305,"body":"distance. They're not going to"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1443.305,"endTime":1445.445,"body":"work for you in a desert."},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1443.305,"endTime":1445.445,"body":"They're not going to work in an"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1445.445,"endTime":1449.405,"body":"open field. You don't have gear"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1445.445,"endTime":1449.405,"body":"storage, but there's ways to"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1449.405,"endTime":1452.465,"body":"work around a couple of those."},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1449.405,"endTime":1452.465,"body":"So a hammock stand will actually"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1452.465,"endTime":1454.825,"body":"address many of the desert or"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1452.465,"endTime":1454.825,"body":"open fields or lack of trees"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1455.185,"endTime":1458.925,"body":"issue. And a gear hammock that"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1455.185,"endTime":1458.925,"body":"you just put under addresses the"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1458.925,"endTime":1461.857,"body":"gear storage. while there are"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1458.925,"endTime":1461.857,"body":"limitations out of the box, I"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1461.857,"endTime":1465.437,"body":"think there are ways to work"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1461.857,"endTime":1465.437,"body":"around it just based on what"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1465.437,"endTime":1467.417,"body":"your budget and where you're"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1465.437,"endTime":1467.417,"body":"going to go. Now, if you're"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1467.417,"endTime":1470.937,"body":"going on a trip like I did for"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1467.417,"endTime":1470.937,"body":"where I knew the places I was"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1470.937,"endTime":1474.597,"body":"going to be camping had trees, I"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1470.937,"endTime":1474.597,"body":"didn't need to bring a hammock"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1474.597,"endTime":1479.977,"body":"stand with me. So they do work"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1474.597,"endTime":1479.977,"body":"in a lot of cases, just not in"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1479.977,"endTime":1483.563,"body":"all cases. So my question for"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1479.977,"endTime":1483.563,"body":"you is, have you ever tried moto"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1483.563,"endTime":1487.383,"body":"hammocking and do you prefer it"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1483.563,"endTime":1487.383,"body":"over tents? And if you haven't"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1487.383,"endTime":1490.411,"body":"tried it, what's been holding"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1487.383,"endTime":1490.411,"body":"your back? Share your thoughts"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1490.411,"endTime":1492.411,"body":"through the text to show link in"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1490.411,"endTime":1492.411,"body":"the show notes or leave a"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1492.411,"endTime":1496.351,"body":"voicemail at throttle and roast"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1492.411,"endTime":1496.351,"body":"dot com slash voicemail. Thanks"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1496.351,"endTime":1497.961,"body":"for listening. I'll talk to you"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1496.351,"endTime":1497.961,"body":"next week."}]}