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Share your"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1204.552,"endTime":1206.592,"body":"thoughts through the text to"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1204.552,"endTime":1206.592,"body":"show link in the show notes or"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1206.592,"endTime":1209.872,"body":"leave a voicemail at"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1206.592,"endTime":1209.872,"body":"throttleandroast.com/voicemail."},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1210.232,"endTime":1212.112,"body":"Thanks for listening. I'll talk"},{"speaker":"Niels","startTime":1210.232,"endTime":1212.112,"body":"to you next week."}]}