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We Did It!
Witness a monumental victory as we unravel the Los Angeles Dodgers' thrilling World Series conquest over the Yankees. What if a series that everyone predicted would drag on became a five-game spectacle? Dive into the unexpected twists and pivotal moments that defined this championship, like the Yankees' dramatic fifth-inning collapse and the Dodgers’ masterful navigation through Garrett Cole's formidable presence on the mound. We promise you'll uncover the strategic brilliance behind their win and the resilience that powered them through adversity.
Celebrate the heart and strategy that propelled the Dodgers to glory, with stories of Walker Bueller's triumphant return from injury and Dave Roberts' sharp managerial maneuvers. Discover the unsung heroes and rising stars like Kevin Biggio and Taylor Trammell who contributed to this unforgettable season. Experience the anticipation of a parade and the camaraderie among fans, all while reflecting on the humorous frustrations with those national broadcasters who often underestimate the Dodgers’ prowess. As we look to the future, imagine the potential dynasty unfolding with talents like Shohei Ohtani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto leading the charge.
Step into the emotional tapestry of the Dodgers' journey, from joyous triumphs to poignant personal stories like that of Kevin Kiermaier and Daniel Hudson. Relish in the team’s unity and the spirited debates comparing powerhouses like Juan Soto with the electrifying energy of Teoscar Hernandez and Tommy Edman. As whispers of offseason plans and exciting prospects swirl, feel the calm and satisfaction of savoring a hard-earned victory, free from the tears of past disappointments. With a profound sense of accomplishment, we invite you to join us in celebrating every moment this season has offered and eagerly anticipate what lies ahead for the Dodgers' faithful.
Hello everyone, Welcome inside the Three Crow Studios in Morristown, Tennessee. This, of course, is Two Guys Talking Baseball and my name is Dallas Danger. I'm joined by Brian Logan and Brian. There's really only one thing to talk about on the show this week, and that, of course, is the White Sox have a new manager.
Speaker 2:It's been a great week for baseball. It may be the greatest week ever Well, that's to be determined but yes, the topic on everybody's mind is definitely the White Sox.
Speaker 1:Will Venable, who has spent the last two seasons as the Texas Rangers associate manager I think that was his title. He's been named the new boss in the clubhouse for the White Sox, and that's about as far as I can take this joke. No, the one thing to talk about this week is the Los Angeles Dodgers are World Series champions, baby yeah absolutely what a series it was.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's been the greatest series in our lifetime.
Speaker 1:It's pretty remarkable, I mean, I don't know, there's just so much to get into. But the idea first off, the idea that this series only went five games I don't know that anybody saw that coming Right. We predicted six. Yeah, we both predicted Dodgers in six, and part of the reason I predicted Dodgers in six is because of the romance of game. Six would have been on Fernando's birthday, right, but now Los Angeles and the Dodgers get a parade.
Speaker 2:I know that on.
Speaker 1:Fernando's birthday, which is, which is way better, yeah way better you know, um, I'll take it.
Speaker 1:You know this is a good Yankee ball club. They just, they just got outplayed out, managed, out pitched and and and when it, when it really counted, they got out hit. I outmanaged, outpitched and when it really counted they got out hit. I think, overall you could argue that the Yankees out hit the Dodgers because nobody other than Freddie Freeman who I'm sure we'll talk about at length on the show, but nobody other than him really had a good series offensively overall when you look at the overall numbers. A good series offensively overall when you look at the overall numbers.
Speaker 1:Um, the idea that garrett cole was garrett cole for two games of this series and in one of those two, the second of those two game, five, jack flaherty did not have it at all. Yeah, looked awful, terrible, just was not, just wasn't getting the job done. Yeah, and you know it looked bleak. It looked real bleak because you know they go up five. Nothing, cole is dealing and not throwing that many pitches, aaron judge, I mean I, you know I love joe's call on that judge, home run, sleeping giant, awaken, you know, cause? That's what it felt like, especially in that building. Is that that that crowd had just been waiting for for that, for judge to show up and do something that, um, that was going to make a difference and sort of stamp his place in the World Series.
Speaker 1:And you know, I was sitting on the couch and I was watching everything happen, going all right, well, I guess you know. I mean, I'm going on vacation this weekend. I was like I'm going to have to watch a game while I'm on vacation, yeah, you know, on friday night, and that's something that I didn't really want to have to do, if I could prevent it. Um, and then that fifth inning happened. Yeah, I mean, what a? I mean it was like the baseball gods just looked down and smited the Yankees.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, god was a Dodger fan this year, without a doubt.
Speaker 1:Just wild To see a team that good and that much control just collapse like that, completely collapse. Two errors officially, Then there's the play at first base.
Speaker 2:Which ultimately can be argued that it lost them the game because that would have been one less run that would have made it tied up Well he covers first base, they're out of the inning and the Dodgers don't score Right.
Speaker 1:That's the thing it goes from. You pitch through the errors, you pitch through the traffic, you cover first base like it's the first day of spring training. You're doing those drills and you're out of it, and that's probably got the Yankees on a flight to LA. He was blown up.
Speaker 2:He, he couldn't run over there. And then the pointing of him just take it yourself was laziness it was bad.
Speaker 1:I I don't know if it was laziness as much as it was, just you know. I think you're right because you know and smoltz made this point on the broadcast I don't know how many pitches he ended up throwing in that inning total, but he had gotten to 27. And Smoltz said look, those are not just 27 low-stress pitches, he's thrown 27 hard, high-stress pitches in this inning Right and, to Cole's credit, he came back out for two more innings and pitched great. Yeah, so you know the idea that he's garrett cole for two games of this series and the yankees lose both of them. I think that's the story. You know one of the stories, but from the yankee perspective, that's the story of this world series. Yeah, yeah, they got exactly what they needed out of their guy, the guy that you pay all that money for just that to, to pitch those games and perform in those situations. And they couldn't get the job done. They couldn't find a way to win with garrett cole dominating on the mound. Really, both, both games, he was dominant. Game one Jack was great, kept him close, and that's all they needed. Once Cole's out of the game, they got in that bullpen. They got the job done.
Speaker 1:Game five man, it was just everything else around it. They just let the Dodgers back in. And that's the mark of this Dodger team, and it was another point that Smoltz made over and over again last night. This team that the Dodgers put together for 2024 is not a team that takes anything for granted. That play at first base, if Mookie's not hustling out of the box and getting it down the line, rizzo might recover and make the play anyway, right, but Mookie, right out of the box, like lightning, legged it out and and didn't give him a shot to even realize what happened. You know, knowing what was on the line, he sniffed it out out, he saw where he hit it, he read Cole not covering and he said I got to get to first base so that run from third can get in and we can start chipping away.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And next thing you know it's a two-out rally, it's 5-5. And that's the other thing too First team in history to come back from down five runs to clinch a World Series. But they made up that deficit and then got behind the eight ball again, yeah, and went down six to five, mm-hmm. Just you know. You talk about the last two years with the Dodgers a lot, the losses in the division series. You know, last year and the year before really just getting punched in the mouth and not responding. This team was different because this team knew how to get in a fight. They knew how to get punched and punch back.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And that's why that trophy got on a plane to LA. That's why there's a parade on Friday. You might be hearing this after the parade, but we're recording on Thursday, the day after Game 5, so the parade is yet to happen, as we're speaking into microphones. But, brian, that's, the difference with this team is the talent's always been there. Talent's never been a question for the Dodgers. It's been the resiliency, it's been the fight and it's been the ability to stay calm. You're down 5-0. And I think, from a fan standpoint, we're all going oh shit, yeah, they win a second one. Yeah, and we have to go back to la. You still feel good because you still only got to win one out of two games at home. Right, you got yamamoto on the mound for game six and he's been lights out against the yankees both times this year. Um, but there's there. There still was. Was that lingering darkness, those demons from the last two years going? It's happening again. We thought, we thought we got this far and got over it, but are we really gonna collapse like this?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know, I don't think they let the demons get to them.
Speaker 1:No, not at all. Not at all, not for a second they would.
Speaker 2:they never gave up. Mean and obviously it showed they could have easily most teams probably would have gave up, but they just had that never say die attitude. I know that's a cliche, but it's fitting here. They just would not give up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, felt like they were in the game the whole way. Didn't panic either. No panic, just just played their game. Yeah, just played their game, put the ball in play, made things happen. And those things that happened, you know, unfortunately for the yankees were were that fifth inning, you know. And then you know the you know, and it wasn't like a big home run or it was. It was two sacrifice flies.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It was two sacrifice flies and that you know, that was the difference.
Speaker 2:Well-placed sacrifice flies too, because those were drilled.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Just can't say enough about this group man.
Speaker 2:I felt it all year. Um, and we try to be objective on this show. I mean, I know we talk about the, the dodgers and the and the cubs every episode, but we, we weren't coming out saying all the dodgers are going to take it this year. Now, we, we believe that, but we didn't come out on the show and say that over and over and over every week. Right, we, we picked other teams, we ruled out the dodgers, but we believed in them the whole year.
Speaker 1:Yep, you know, and they delivered big time yeah, I think my bigger point is that I, I loved this team. I really. You know things are going to happen free agency and all that. It's not going to be the same group of guys next year, but this team was so likable and so easy to get behind, you know. And then for guys, you know, obviously there's the Freddie Freemans, but you know, Shohei, kind of a non-factor the whole World.
Speaker 2:Series. Well, both teams did a great job of isolating the big man on the opposite team because, Judge, really he hit that home run. He didn't do really much of anything else. Right Otani had a couple of I think what, think what.
Speaker 1:he had one single uh, he had two hits, okay, two hits, some walks, but nothing, nothing.
Speaker 2:They isolated them you know, and they took them out of the picture. And then, when you do that, it goes to show, I think, that uh, without judge the yankees can't do it, but it shows that the dodgers can do it without shohei.
Speaker 1:Yeah no, it's a complete roster and it had to be. I mean, no team lost more uh, lost more wins above replacement this year to injury than the los angeles dodgers. Yeah, they had an entire good rotation on the injured list for the playoffs.
Speaker 1:They had three healthy starting pitchers yeah yeah, if you don't count Landon Knack, you know who's? Just a rookie who they didn't want to put in that position and that was the right call um, because he's like the 10th or 11th option in in the Dodgers rotation. You know, probably had no business getting as much time in the big leagues this year as he did and, to his credit, shout out, johnson City boy. Landon Knack, to his credit, was pretty good this year. Gave them innings when they needed innings, gave them a starter when they needed a starter, and he's just as big a part of this as anybody else.
Speaker 1:Brent Honeywell Jr can't say enough about that, dude. Oh yeah, because, listen, he is not a good pitcher, not a good pitcher, and that's okay, but he's a pro and he's a guy who's been through a lot to get to the point he was at and he even said he was like look, look, my job was to go out there and just eat it. Yeah, just get beat up, take those innings and and make sure that the other guys were ready the next day. And he did that twice in these playoffs, he did it in the nlcs, he did it in the world series and you know hearing, you know when they, when they won the pennant, hearing them talk about how valuable he was. You know he's he's. He's throwing live bp to the, to these guys in new york, and he's telling them look, it's coming right down the middle. Hit that thing as far as you can. I don't care, yeah, I will wear this, I will sit here and throw taters so you can just look like a pro and like a superstar, because that's my job and that's how I help this team win it all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so can't say enough about this group. Uh, those dogs in the bullpen man um, most pitchers ever used in a world series clinching game. Eight pitchers used to get through nine innings last night. Yeah, that's the most ever in a World Series clinching game, and that's how the Dodgers have done business through this whole run. You know they don't, but with that said, for Doc to go out there and check on trinan and put his hands on trinan's chest, yeah, and who knows what was said. But it had to be something along the lines of look, I need you, but more than that, I need you to be honest with me yeah where are you at, are you good?
Speaker 1:and trinan obviously said I, I got this yeah and he did um valuable piece of that of that group man and and just the just the selflessness top to bottom in that pitching staff, yeah, no, nobody, nobody had a set role, nobody had an inning that was dedicated to them, they all, and they talked about this, you know, down the stretch they all just waited for the phone to ring and when the phone phone rang, they all locked in Right Because it could be anybody. Anybody could have that opportunity at any point and they delivered.
Speaker 2:Well, and I knew, when they got Bueller up to warm up, I was like, oh, they're done, that's it.
Speaker 1:Because, they weren't prepared for that. Well, yeah, unbelievable, because you start to look at it and you're in the sixth inning and you got Trinan and Daniel Hudson, who would have been going for the third day in a row, left Everybody else you know your length. Guys all pitched the day before. Yeah, you know you've used up your other. You know high leverage arms. Somebody had to go down there and and I would I would love to be a fly on the wall for the conversation between Walker Bueller and Dave Roberts or whoever it was having that conversation with him before they sent him down there. Yeah, he threw 76 pitches two days earlier, mm-hmm, 76 pitches, one day of rest, and then I mean, it was like it was his first outing of the year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know Smoltz was saying on commentary that, uh, you know adrenaline will get him through it, but how long can he? Can he hold it right? And he held it just perfectly.
Speaker 1:I mean, that was that, was every chip on the table. Yeah, because here? Because if they tie it up and it goes into extra innings, you got to ride with Walker for as long as you can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Because you don't have another option. I mean it would have been crazy to see that game go into extras just to see what the Dodgers were going to do from the pitching side of it Right.
Speaker 2:Right, because they were about out. I mean, I dare say they were out. That's why they went with.
Speaker 1:Buehler. They had to. I don't think they had another option. And for everything that Walker Buehler has been through this season coming off of a second Tommy John, not being the same guy, getting asked every start you know well what about your free agency and having to say I don't give a shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to get big league hitters out. I'm trying to figure out how to do this. I'll worry about that when we get to it. And that's just again. That's the mark of a championship team. It would be easy for Walker Bueller to go my God, I'm not going to make any money, I'm not going to get a long-term deal, my career might be over, right? He said last night in the post game. I read somewhere that he was worried about getting let go at one point this year. Yeah, you know, I'm sure he did not imagine in his wildest dreams he was going to be on the postseason roster until glass now and stone go down right and are out for the year, because those were late in the season decisions that those guys were done. So yeah for Walker to just come out there and give them. You know again, it was Dave and the Dodgers putting all the chips on the table.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it worked out and now we get a parade.
Speaker 2:We get a parade. That's right. You think they'll have a big. Uh, what like are they blimps? Is that what they're called? The big like macy's thanksgiving day parade? Oh, like a like a float or a balloon like a balloon thing of fernando like a giant one coming down main street going down the uh 404 or whatever.
Speaker 1:It is out there I don't, I don't the 110, I don't think so yeah bumper to bumper and there's giant fernando that doesn't feel like a very I want it very good.
Speaker 2:Respectful tribute yes, I think that would be awesome, yeah, but no, we're gonna get a great parade and they deserved it and they worked very, very hard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, just a really great top-to-bottom team effort. A lot of guys are going to get rings. You know that aren't around anymore and they all deserve it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean the list is just endless. It seems like you know Kevin Biggio and Taylor Trammell, I mean all these guys that had to fill in the gaps through the injuries and get this team in a position to do what they did last night, and that was finish the job and win the World Series. And I mean it's funny it's always funny to me when the Dodgers win anything because the national broadcast analysts all, every single fucking time, have to eat crow.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, A-Rod was beside himself.
Speaker 1:I mean, I looked at he picked the yankees last night, of course, because of course he did. And I looked at, I looked at jen, my partner, who was still up at that time. I I can I'll tell that story in a minute um, because we're a very crazy, wacky, superstitious house when it comes to the dodgers. But I looked at her and I said alex rodriguez, I will give you one million dollars to pick the dodgers one fucking time. Yeah, just once, yeah, just once, you know. And then they have to sing the praises afterwards. And they all were saying you know what's scary, they're going to be better next year. Yeah, because you have to assume that you won't deal with the same number of injuries to the same level of guys right next year, and this roster is built to compete like this long term. Yeah, you know. Um, I think I heard or read somewhere that shohei looked at some of his teammates and said hey, guys, let's do this nine more times yeah, that'd be great because this is the first year on an otani 10-year contract.
Speaker 1:This is the first year on a yoshinobu yamamoto 12-year contract. You know, freddy's around for a couple more years, mookie's around for almost a decade more. They inked up will smith, you've got tyler glass now for four more years. You know I mean oscar should be in oh, let's talk about teoscar hernandez.
Speaker 1:Fuck juan soto, I don't want him. I don't want him. I get he's the player he is. I'm not taking anything away from the, from the talent and from the personality and from just just the level of player he is, because he's he's in the top five or ten hitters in the game and will be for a while. Because he's a year older than Yamamoto Right, he just started at such a young age. I don't want him. I want Teoscar Hernandez in left field.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do too. He's the excitement of the team, he's the spirit of the team.
Speaker 1:Yeah excitement of the team. He's the uh spirit of the team. Yeah, I mean, and that's and. And again, you can, you can stack as many mvps at the top as you want, and that's all well and good, but if you don't have guys like tay oscar, if you don't have guys like kike, you know, if you don't have those, if you don't have guys like tommy, absolutely, tommy Edmond got them there. Yeah, 100%. That NLCS performance was legendary. Tommy Edmond will never buy a meal in the city of Los Angeles, ever again.
Speaker 2:Right, and he shouldn't. And that's the thing with the playoffs, is they? And they talked a little bit about it last night after the game, but they, you know, getting through each, uh, I guess, each set of the playoffs, each step each round, each round round.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm trying to say. I'm in shape, rounds of shape. Anyway, they played differently and they had different guys step up to get them through, because each round was totally different in what they were facing. Yeah, and that's. That's the name of being a great ball club yeah, and I think that that is all.
Speaker 1:First off, what you're saying is absolutely true and that is exactly what dave roberts is going to hang his hat on. Yeah, because that's all. I mean, I'm not saying it's all, dave, because the guys still have to go out there and execute. But for Dave Roberts to manage this team, with all the injuries, with all the hurdles, and then get in the postseason and have that performance, they had to win two in a row to get out of the NLDS. Yeah, it's easy to forget. We were down 2-1 to the Padres in the NLDS and it looked like here we go again, mm-hmm, but didn't let any of the outside noise in. Just got the job done, yes, and silenced that team. A really good Padres team I mean, I'm physically hurting now with those words coming out of my mouth A really good Padres team.
Speaker 1:But again, talent is only one small piece of the equation. Yes, and the Padres have stacked a lot of talent and they've spent a lot of money on that squad. They don't have the same mentality. It's just a different ball game with the los angeles dodgers because, again, they show up every day worried about that day. Yeah, they get to the plate, they get on the mound worried about that pitch, that play. They don't get too wrapped up in what's behind them or what's ahead of them. It's all living in the moment and you know this dodger squad through this whole historic run of the last decade plus now. That's been their philosophy take what the game gives you and pass the baton to the next guy. If if you don't get anything to hit, don't try to be a hero. Take four balls, get to first base and trust that the guy coming up next is going to get a better pitch. Yeah, and he's going to get the opportunity.
Speaker 2:So good at passing the baton and I mean, can we now finally make the argument that Dave Roberts is the best mind in coaching?
Speaker 1:I don't know why we've not been making that argument already. We have, we have but in a broader sense, the royal we. Why have we not been saying that already? Yeah, if you're still a Dave Roberts detractor, just go watch football man. Yeah, because he has put together a Hall of Fame managerial career and he's probably got 20 more years of managing in him, yep, and I hope at least a good, huge chunk of that is with the Dodgers. Yeah, because he shouldn't go anywhere for a long time.
Speaker 2:Unless he comes to the Cubs, and we'll take him next year.
Speaker 1:You're inked up, buddy. I know You're stuck with counsel.
Speaker 2:That's all right, he's going to get it done. He's going to get it done.
Speaker 1:Are we talking about the Cubs now? No, we're not.
Speaker 2:Just throwing that out there. No, dave had. The thing about him was is. They asked him what he was thinking on game three or game four when they were losing, and he said I'm thinking about tomorrow night. And then so that leads me to believe that in game five, when they were down five to nothing, he was already thinking well, this game's half over and we're down by a lot. What can I do to save my pitching staff for tomorrow night? And well, friday night, right and um, he must have been the most surprised guy on the field when they tied it up, because he was already thinking ahead in playing chess here. Thinking ahead in playing chess here, and what a relief. Like I'm sure he had a game plan for the next game. And then he's like, well, wow, we're back in this you know, yeah, we're not out yet.
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't need to think so far ahead. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:you know what I'm saying yeah, no, well, and there's reason to believe because of what happens in game four and what happens in that second bullpen game, you know, in the Mets series. Yeah, and I keep hearing the word punting like he punted the game. He didn't punt the game, he just thought there's another chance to win. Yeah, and if we set ourselves up for that opportunity, then we're just fine. Yeah, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2:He didn't let, that he didn't throw away the game when they were down by five, he just planned ahead and that he was being prepared on all fronts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that no matter what was thrown at him, he, he had an answer for it yeah, and, and the fans, and, and, and you know, I heard some of the media giving him credit in game four. He knew he had to know the fans were not going to respond positively to his pitching strategy. Yeah, for game four, but we we say this all the time with Dave Roberts. I feel like I say it every week on this show. It's a chess and checkers conversation. Yes, the fans are begging him to play checkers and he's still playing chess. Yes, and now we got a trophy for it. We're getting a parade. The guys are getting rings.
Speaker 2:And he was so happy in the celebration and I think he was legitimately happy for his boys. Yeah, he hugged all of them. I mean I watched him go around and hug each individual one. They wouldn't start the celebration with the champagne until he had everybody there in front of him. Yep, I mean he was just. He knew what got him there.
Speaker 1:The team makes him look good and he makes the team look good and I think and this is another part of Dave Roberts that gets talked about a lot, but it's all about he genuinely, at a deep level, cares about each and every guy in that room. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I mean johan ramirez earlier in the year, another guy who's going to get a ring, who's not on this roster anymore because they just had to. They just had to go get guys to fill the spots right and compete in the regular season to put themselves in this position. You know, johan couldn't stop hitting guys, not just walking guys, not just giving up home runs. He was, he was hitting batters at an alarming rate. Yeah, and dave goes out to the mound, hugs him around the neck and says I need you, I need you right now. This, this is the, the first pitch of the rest of your career. Yeah it, it is up to you how it's going to go.
Speaker 1:And Ramirez wasn't great at any point, but he got it together a little bit. Yeah, you know, and he stuck on the roster for a while and he gave us some good outings, some good innings. Yeah, you know, that's what Dave Roberts is doing, that I don't think 30 managers are doing, right, is that deep? Just legitimate caring for every guy in the room, from Shohei and Mookie and Freddie and Kershaw all the way down to guys like Johan Ramirez. That Dave knew. Dave knew he wasn't going to get to October and still have Johan Ramirez on the roster. Yeah, he knew that, but that didn't matter because at that moment, at that point in time, johan was one of his guys and that means something to Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1:And yeah, Just the best mind in baseball, yeah, I mean enough, said he's the guy and he's going to be in the Hall of Fame. He's going to be in the Hall of Fame in a Dodger cap. He'll probably be the last person to ever wear no 30 for the Dodgers, which is cool and means a lot to him, because he wears that for more he wills. But yeah, just it does make you go wonder. You know, we got a stretch here with this, with this core group of guys. How many more we got in us?
Speaker 2:Well, okay, so I said that this was the greatest series we always talk theoretically about. You know who's the best in this, okay? So you're like the boys of summer were very good. You usually ballyhoo them. I'm always about the big red machine, who is the best team overall in the history of baseball.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Man, I'd put this team up against any of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I think if this team wins one or two more, um, they gotta be in that conversation, they gotta be you know, I mean that because they're so deep.
Speaker 2:Everybody that bad that took a bat and went out there and tried to hit the ball was just as big a threat as the guy before him or after him. I mean it was just unreal. I mean the Yankees couldn't let up at all. There was no gimmies on that team at all. No, none.
Speaker 1:Zero and that's what they've built. I haven't said Andrew Friedman's name, but that's the goal when he puts these teams together. Yeah, is to not have a weak link in the chain, and that goes for the pitching side too. And look, I mean when you look at that bullpen especially, it's a scrap heap. Yeah, it's guys that are cast off by other teams, and the scouting and player development groups with the Dodgers are world-class too, because they see, oh, we can tweak this one thing, yeah, we can go.
Speaker 1:You know what? Why don't you try this pitch? Or why don't you change your grip of this pitch this way? Or here's a mechanical thing that we think and he turns these guys and it, and I think, at the end of the day, it's just the belief. Yeah, when you get a guy who's on a bad team and gets let go and you're the dodgers, and you call them and say, hey, we believe in you, we want you to be a part of what we're doing, I think that invigorates these guys yeah, I do too and and that belief in them gives them the belief in the system, yeah, and the belief in what the coaching staff and and all these people that are involved in in developing a player at the major league level from the dodgers there's a.
Speaker 1:that belief now goes both ways. Yeah, and that's the mark of this team and that's why they're knocking on the door of the record for most consecutive years making the playoffs.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That's why they've won two in the last five years. But, yeah, this one, you know, this one is not more special than 2020, because 2020 2020 was the first one in a long time yeah for me personally, the first one in my lifetime. You know, I was alive for 88, but I was like two years old, right?
Speaker 1:you know um 88 was a great year, you know, and and just washing away the 2017 disappointment, because I remember I'll never forget this the moment we got the last out in 2020, I felt 2017 wash off of me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I felt it physically. Yeah, I felt it go away Because that was a big, big demon exercised. That's the other thing. We should be talking about this as the third World Series title for Dave Roberts. Right, absolutely, because even with the Astros knowing the pitches that were coming, the Dodgers pushed them to the absolute limit in 2017. That series went seven games. So, yeah, and I don't want to go back and rehash all that and try to live in the past, but you know that that's the thing we should be talking about this like, okay, now it's a dynasty. Yeah, now it's a dynasty, because it's three and seven years, or eight years or whatever I mean, and nobody's won two in a row in in over 20 years at this point right, so very hard to do?
Speaker 1:I mean, it's downright impossible to do um till next season. Well, we'll see that, and that's what that's what I want to open the floor with here is, you know, let's just, let's just set aside the next nine years, let's let's just snapshot this 10 years, um, and that 10 years coincides with the Shohei Otani contract. Okay, how many can this team win?
Speaker 2:Right, I think I mean a legit number they got. I think they got four. Yeah, I mean I, I you know you're not to discount the past. I believe their dynasty starts today and goes forward, and I think they got three more in them in the next 10 years.
Speaker 1:I hope you're right. If I'm not mistaken, when we signed.
Speaker 1:Shohei, I said if we don't win at least two in that 10 years and that's the minimum Yeah've said that on this it's a disappointment. Yeah, it's a massive disappointment. Yeah, but this is an organization that, when shohei was being courted, told him and this really left a mark on him that the fact that they'd made the playoffs 10 years in a row, or 11 in a row, whatever it was at that point and it only won the one, was an organizational failure. Yeah, they all felt like they had not done their job because they'd only won the one right? So, um, yeah, I mean, I'm just over the moon. I'm so happy for this group of guys. You know, this is a really lovable team. Um, I really want to see this group held together as much as possible. Yeah, I would too.
Speaker 2:Let me ask you this question so do the, in my opinion, the yankees. I tried to isolate shohei and they did, but they treated shohei special, as a special threat, because they you have to. But I think the Dodgers treated Judge as just one of the other players. Well, because they, that's how they went about it. They looked at it as every guy was dangerous. Let's play it this way instead of saying, well, we gotta shut Judge down, they just. I think that of saying, well, we got to shut Judge down, they just. I think that helped them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it goes back to that mentality of we're not going to pick one guy and say he's not going to beat us.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We're going to take every at bat and focus on that at bat. Yeah, so they had a game plan for everybody and it didn't work 100% of the time. You know, yankees ended up scoring quite a bit of runs. You know they scored 11 in in uh game four when they won, yeah, and they scored five like it was nothing in game, five off of a good pitcher jack flaherty's, a good pitcher, had an off night. Uh, just didn't have it and, and they took advantage. But when they made mistakes, the dodgers got right back in the game and that's and that's just it is. You can't take a lead for granted. You can't take your eye off the ball, figuratively or literally, you know, because that's what led to aaron judge dropping that pop up in center field and you could see it on the replay when they slowed it down. He's here, he's here, he takes his eye off the ball and it drops, yeah, and and that and that's. You know, I'm sorry, but that's Little League stuff.
Speaker 2:That is and that was what it looked like. It looked like a Little League hit, you know, and he just didn't have it. He didn't have it. You know, all respect to him being the guy in the American League, but he didn't have it in this series.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, and with all this said, aaron Judge is still the MVP in the AL, shohei's still the MVP in the NL. No question, I don't think Right. Probably should both be unanimous. We'll see what those crazy wacky writers come up with. You know, in that regard, at the end of the day, it won't matter they in that regard, at the end of the day, it won't matter, they're both going to win mvp this year, right?
Speaker 1:um, and shohei. We have to say this shohei was dealing with that shoulder for a lot of this series, yeah, and, and I think that that, more than anything, took him out of this series a little bit. And I even saw some people last night, or maybe even the day before, saying you know, are we really sure that banged up Otani is better than not having Otani, right, you know?
Speaker 2:I think it was because I think it was the distraction of we got to get him out, we can't let him unleash him which allowed them to not pay attention to the middle of the order, to the bottom half of the order.
Speaker 1:Yankees again, again. Very good ball club, um, and and I wouldn't mind seeing them get soto back and keeping their their squad together, because that's a really good group they've got over there. Yeah, jazz, chisholm made a huge difference for them sure did.
Speaker 1:Very happy for jazz good acquisition, paid off yep yeah, definitely, uh, and showed up in the big moment. Yeah, you know those two stolen bases um, I don't remember what game that was. And then the you know the home run in game four. You know, uh really delivered, uh. And I've I've liked jazz. You know I was talking about jazz chisholm two years ago on this show. Sure was as and and and. The reason why is because I saw harold reynolds, who does a lot with youth development in baseball, saying, when I talk to these kids, jazz is their guy. It's not aaron judge, it's not bryce harper, it's not any of these other superstars that we're used to talking about. They all want to be jazz chisholm. Yeah, he's cool, he's a cool guy and he's a good player. And, um, I think he fits right in with the yankees. Um, I think he's. I think he's found his place he looks at home with them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely so, but he also did drop that ball at third yeah, well and that's but, but I think that was more Volpe's throw.
Speaker 2:It was, but put the body in front of the ball. But.
Speaker 1:Smoltz, I think, was the one that made this point, though, when they showed the replay. If Kike doesn't get the jump he does and doesn't put the pressure on that throw, he's out easily. Yeah, again, it's this Dodger team not taking a thing for granted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hustle all the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just playing the game the right way. Everybody likes to talk about playing the game the right way. The Dodgers played that series from the first pitch until they got the last out. They played it the right way, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they sure did. I mean, they were relentless, they were smooth and easy the whole way through, did not panic, just kept kept chugging along. Man, and that's, that's the name of the game. I mean, like I said earlier, a lot of ball clubs, I mean and I mean a lot, I mean most teams would have given up at five to nothing. Yeah, halfway through the game, yeah, they, they would have just been, you know, all right, well we'll, we're going back home yeah, we're gonna go back home.
Speaker 2:We're gonna get them in six yeah, um, and they just they didn't want that nope nope, not at all no, and that that's you know.
Speaker 1:That's where I kind of take issue with something you were saying earlier. You know, I don't know that dave's mind was on game six, you don't think so. I think he managed that game to win it, even when they were down by five or could be. You know, I mean, I think, I, I mean, I, I understand what you're getting at and again, there's precedent.
Speaker 1:You know, it was just the game before, the night before yeah but at the end of the day, dave pulled all the strings, yeah, to keep them, to keep them in that game and keep them upbeat, and the guys went out there and did the job. Um, you know, just a, just a, just a, a really really great performance, yeah, um, by the dodgers and um, really really obviously me happy, I'm happy, I'm really happy to see that because you know and a comedy of errors.
Speaker 1:Uh, and the yankees in the fifth and I said this last year when the dodgers sort of like surprised everybody in 100 games last year with the group they had. Um, I would rather like my team. Yes, that to me that's more important than winning it all. Yeah, obviously I want them to win it all every year. That just doesn't happen. Nobody wins it every year. But I want to like this team first and foremost. Yeah, and I really, really like this group man, I mean just the, the makeup and and the, the personalities and the way they all care so much for each other and play for each other. Um, again, I'd really like to see them put forth an effort to get Teoscar back. Walker Bueller, I mean, I think last night really changes the conversation for Walker.
Speaker 2:Bueller's free agency. Yeah, I do too. I think we need to look. Suddenly I'm a Dodger guy. I think that they need to keep him. I think he's a key point in the whole thing.
Speaker 1:It would not surprise me not knowing who Walker is represented by off the top of my head. It would not surprise me if he got a qualifying offer and just took it. Yeah, said you know what, I'll give you a year. Yeah, I'll give you a year to prove that I still belong here, that I'm still valuable to you guys and show you I want to be here and nights like last night, games like Game 5 of this World Series that's why guys want to play for the Dodgers and Walker's been with that organization the whole way yeah. So you know, now there might be a team throw four or five years and a lot of money at him, and you know you can't blame anybody for taking that when that's not on the table.
Speaker 2:So you know yeah, where you're already at, you gotta think about your career free agency gets crazy.
Speaker 1:It's just, you never know, you never know, you never know with free agency. But, um, but again, even if guys walk, even if they don't get tay oscar back, even if they don't get bueller back, they're gonna find two guys to go in those spots, right, and and it's gonna be guys that fit, you know, with the rest of the group, fits the mold and and and and are and are buying in. Yeah, um, well, okay, so we've still not talked about, really, the elephant in the room, the mvp of the series. Yeah, but before we do that, I just want to mention a couple guys. You know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get as many guys in that deserve credit as I can. Um, how cool for kevin kiermeierier, who, when he got to the Dodgers, we knew this was it for him, right. How cool for him to get the chance. I mean, he didn't contribute heavily, but he's in the room, he's in that dugout. Yeah, he's part of this. He gets to go out on top.
Speaker 1:And Daniel Hudson, daniel Hudson man. Um, he gets to go out on top. And daniel hudson, daniel hudson man. Two years ago daniel hudson um had a really severe knee injury, fights his way back, misses like a whole year and then comes right back and hurts the other knee. Yeah, and this is a guy that already through the last pitch of a World Series win for the Nationals, no one would have blamed him for hanging it up at that point, right.
Speaker 1:But instead he signs a minor league deal. He's not even guaranteed to be on the team coming into spring training. And here we are months later and he's got another ring and he's going out on top two. So happy for those two guys. Um, you know, old school type of players you know, kind of broke in, kind of broke in in a different era. Yeah, in a lot of ways. I mean, the game has changed so much so quickly the last few years that guys like hudson and kiermeier, you know they broke in very differently yeah and then the guys do now and and um, yeah, man, just really happy for those two.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, just just really really cool for them to be able to to ride off into the sunset.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is a cool ending to to their story. Uh, to go out on top. That's what you always want to do is go out on top, and they're going to get to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Kiermaier hadn't hadn't done that. Yeah, you know. Uh, you know Hudson had. You know, hudson just wanted, wanted, wanted one more, but but Kiermaier had gotten close. He was on that race team in 2020. Yeah, and just such a good dude. Kevin Kiermaier seems like a really great guy. Spoke a lot about his mental health issues and being neurodivergent and how that's affected him, and it was very open about that and I'm always a fan of that. Yeah, just you know, it was just the perfect mix of guys.
Speaker 2:It was yeah. Everybody that played on the team this whole season contributed to taking a step towards the championship, and they should all be proud of what they've done, and they needed everybody along the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and again it goes back. There are a lot of guys that aren't on this team anymore that are going to get rings. They deserve them. Yeah, they do. And the depth of this organization got stretched and and stretched again, and stretched some more, and there were times in the playoffs where it looked like this team doesn't have enough pitching yeah, you know um well, I thought that last night yeah I thought there's no way, until I saw bueller, and then I was like, oh okay, all right, yeah, that's that'll do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'll definitely do it yeah, legendary stuff.
Speaker 1:Legendary stuff out of walker bueller, um, and legendary stuff out of freddie freeman, yeah, um. I mean now that, now that this is settled and the dodgers have won it all that game, one grand slam, and and I and I wasn't one that thought the dodgers needed to win this series for that to be played over and over again. But now that they have won it all and he got the MVP and he broke the record six consecutive World Series games with a home run and took that record away from a cheating bastard in George Springer, which was the best part about it that video, that call are gonna. I mean that, that it's gonna. It's right up there with the gibby home run from 88 well, I told ashley right after it happened.
Speaker 2:I said if I'm just standing around and someone says the word baseball, my mind's eye goes to the George Brett Pintar home run, pete Rose hitting his hit, kirk Gibson hitting the home run and now there's a fourth, freddie Freeman hitting that. That's immediately what runs through my mind, those three things now to be four when someone just says baseball because those are the big moments that I remember in my life and Freddie Freeman, like I said, has added to it now that that was incredible yeah never been done before no first walk-off grand slam in world series history.
Speaker 1:Um, the most, uh, I think he tied the most rbis in a single world series broke the national league record. Um, I think the previous record was eight and he had 12.
Speaker 1:So you know, didn't just break it, took care of it you know yeah and and when you look at the year, freddie freeman had, um, you know, first off, he did all that on an ankle that he shouldn't have been playing on absolutely in the first place. Yep, because they told him in the regular season it was a four to six week injury, but he showed up and went through three or four hours, or whatever it was, every day just to get, just to get his body in a place, to get on the field at all right, and then to show up like that. You know all the injuries he dealt with. You know I mean, and that's not even all the injuries he dealt with. You know I mean and that's not even mentioning all the stuff with his son Max, going through a lot, a lot, a lot of weight on the shoulders of Freddie Freeman, the man, the person, the human this year. And you couldn't even tell it.
Speaker 1:No, it's almost like it drove him harder. It's almost like he he had more to prove and more to play for yeah and you know, um, and you know, still, the, the most humble guy gave all the credit, you know, gave all the credit the whole way to his dad, yeah, who's been his batting practice pitcher since he was a kid.
Speaker 2:Yep, you know, and and just I like the clip of him yelling at his dad yeah man, he didn't realize he was yelling yeah yeah, he talked about that.
Speaker 1:He said I think I just got over there and yelled I love you dad he's like I don't even know what I was saying. I just was so pumped up, you know, and he said this about the home run, you know, he said this when they won it all. He said this isn't my moment, this is my dad's moment.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, because without him I wouldn't be here.
Speaker 2:And that's a guy that's been there before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. But uh, what about? Mookie now has three rings? Yeah, only active player with three um, and that's the type. That's the type of player Mookie Betts is yeah you know, um, well, I mean 2020, when Mookie first got to the Dodgers in spring training. You know, he, he, he stood up in front of the whole group, yeah, and said look, I'm used to doing this a certain way and it working. That's how we're going to do things now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know and took charge and you know I said this a lot when they won it in 2020, kirk Gibson did the same thing in 1988. Yeah, he gets there and they prank him in spring training and he flips out. He says, says we don't do that anymore yeah teams that win. Don't do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know I'm, I'm coming from teams that have won yeah you know, because he came from that tigers team that won it all right and when he was a big part of that, you know. And so for a guy like that, like mo Betts, to walk in the door and say, okay, things are different now, that means a lot and it shows because again, nobody else playing the game right now has three rings Right. Mookie Betts does, and I'm just happy two of those are with the Los Angeles Dodgers, I know man, that's great.
Speaker 2:And that's great, you know, because again, no one guy is the anchor or the, you know the. What am I trying to say here? I'm trying to say it's not just one guy, everybody put their little bit in yeah, they're a little bit here, they're a little bit there to make this whole ship float.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's the thing about baseball. It's easy for us to forget. Baseball is still a team sport and it's so individualized because at the end of the day, it's one guy throwing the ball to another guy with a stick right, but the in the grand scheme of things, on a bigger picture, baseball is a team sport. And again, mookie's one of those guys that if you're not going to give him something to hit, he'll leave the bat on his shoulder and he'll go to first base because he knows the guy behind him, he trusts that guy to drive him in, to get on base, to extend the inning. You know what I mean? It's all about the belief. And again, that goes back to Dave Roberts and the way he handles this ball club.
Speaker 1:And you know, I mean I'm happy for all these guys, I'm happy for myself, I'm happy for the other Dodger fans, I'm happy that there's I mean they're going to find a way, but there's nothing they can say about this one. Yeah, nothing, no, I agree Nothing. And you can talk about the deferred money or whatever, but that's not. That suggests that the Dodgers are the only ones allowed to defer money. Right, other teams offered Shohei the same exact contract, or I should say Shohei offered other teams the same deal. Right Of, I'll take two mil a year now and backload this contract so we can win.
Speaker 2:And he did.
Speaker 1:It ain't about making the most money. It's about putting the team I'm on in position to build around me and win ballg games and win championships. Because that was the thing. That's why he's not an angel anymore, right, because that team is not committed to winning. And that's the crazy thing is there's so many teams out of 30 that just don't care, or at least they do business like they don't care.
Speaker 2:You know, totally A lot of teams out. There are like that.
Speaker 1:They can all defer money, they can all spend money. Yeah, you know Totally A lot of teams out there are like that they can all defer money, they can all spend money. Yeah, don't let them fool you. They're all billionaires, they can all spend money. They've all got it. It's just a matter of are you going to sit on it or are you going to use it to make your team better?
Speaker 2:Well, money-wise, they're the two most expensive teams the Yankees and the dodgers and they brought what dodgers are.
Speaker 1:Third, are they really the mets, the?
Speaker 2:mets payroll was higher than the dodgers okay, well so. So when we got down to three, the dodgers were last place in payroll well, what I'm saying is is they all got the best players and it brought them there equally. It wasn't like, say, the cubs going against them, right, the cubs won't spend to save their lives, so they both paid to get what they they got and it paid off for both of them. Yeah, and that's, that's the name of the game.
Speaker 1:You've got to spend to get, to get your, your team together right and and I think we forgot that with with the last couple years and the new playoff format and more teams getting in and the buys and all this new with playoff baseball, it was easy to forget. But this year the pack we've talked about it a lot this year on the show the pack was so much tighter this year than it's been in a long time and the teams that separated themselves were the teams that were committed to winning. Yes, you know, even all the way down to San Diego, that's a team that's given it everything they've got, checkbook wise and all that. You know they're, they're, they're trying to win.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, fuck them, but they're trying to win. They're doing the right thing, right. Right, they're spending money. They're spending it foolishly, but that's another conversation. And that's the other thing too, I heard the other day. So the report came out right in the middle of the World Series. Now why in the hell we're reporting on this in the middle of the World Series, I'll never know. But I guess the same reason that somebody asked Andrew Friedman a question at a World Series press conference about international money, yeah, and he was like, are you serious right now? Yeah, don't care, it's a World Series, let's talk about that.
Speaker 1:But reports came out that the Dodgers were going to be in on Juan Soto. I don't think that's a surprise. I don't think anybody needed to say that out loud. Jeff Passan, who, if you've listened to this show, you know if he doesn't say it, it ain't true, right? He doesn't think the Dodgers are going to get that far into the Juan Soto conversation and he gave the examples of the team-friendly deals that they got with their other superstars.
Speaker 1:Juan Soto is going to make a lot of money this offseason. No matter where he goes, somebody's going to pay him a lot of money to play baseball for them and they should. But I don't know that Juan Soto gives the Dodgers a team-friendly deal when he's going to have five or six other teams probably offering more money, more years, more lucrative deals. Right, and I don't blame him. I don't blame him for taking more money or taking more years or whatever the difference is going to be. But Paston said I don't think so, I don't think the Dodgers are going to be that in on Juan Soto. And I mean that just made me happy to hear that Because again.
Speaker 2:I want Teos to oscar hernandez in left field for this ball club for as long as possible. I do too, unless he can come to the cubs. That's the other than that. He needs to stay where he's at, and if he can come to the cubs, then come on. So, um, we'll give you a belly back for him. Straight up trade, you can have bellinger at this point.
Speaker 1:Um, I love cody. He's the man, a big part of a lot of great Dodger moments. I have one of them on a T-shirt the Tatis robbery in the NLDS in 2020. But just stream of consciousness here, I mentioned earlier watching the game, or part of the game, with Jen, my partner. So we go down 5-0. She was just like you know what the vibes are not great, I'm just going to go to bed. Okay, that's your choice. If you feel like it's time to go to bed, go to bed. She goes upstairs, goes to bed. The fifth inning happens. She's keeping up with it on her phone. She's not gone to sleep yet. She ends up coming back downstairs and I'm checking in on her every so often how you doing, what are you feeling? And then we go down six to five and she said you know what? I think it might be me tonight. I'm going back upstairs, wake me up if they win. It was all her fault and that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1:I said hey wake up, it's time to celebrate and she kind of was like wait, it is. I was like, yeah, we did it. She was like what? I was like, yeah, we won it's over. Yeah, like, come downstairs and have some sparkling grape juice with me, because we're old and sober and you know funny duds and you know funny duds and you know it was champagne in 2020. So, but yeah, just another memory. You know, for me personally, I'll never forget that. That'll stick with me forever. You know, I didn't cry this time.
Speaker 2:Well, but you had a peace about you this time.
Speaker 1:I did. I had a lot. I had a real calm about me this year in the postseason and again I think it was just that I liked this team so much and you know, honestly, just winning that nlds against the padres yeah, like I think that was enough this year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just to say okay, now we can stop talking about how bad this team is in october yeah um, you know, because it's really only been the last two years, 2021 we just ran into a team that was more equipped to win. You know, mookie's on a like a bad hip playing through it and, yeah, you know, a lot of injuries in 21 too. And, um, you know, we we had to win a wild card game because the Giants, you know, had the year of their life and we won 106 games and had to play a one-game wild card playoff. That I would take back in a heartbeat over this team's getting by as crap. Yeah, but that's you know. Again, another conversation for another day. But yeah, I just I've lost my train of thought.
Speaker 1:It's a wonderful season, yeah, just a great season. And yeah, you know, oh, I was talking about 21. Yeah, and then we got to go play the Giants and go five games in that division series and we just ran out of gas. You know, 22 with the Padres and 23 with the Diamondbacks. It was literally they punched us in the mouth and we never punched back. Yeah, you know, they got on top of us and it was over before it started. Really.
Speaker 1:So, you know, for this team to get this championship, to do it the way they did, to beat the teams they beat I mean, nobody can say this was an easy path for the Dodgers, padres, mets, yankees is pretty tough. Three teams to get through it sure was. And to only get pushed to the limit once, you know, with the, with the nlds, you know, um, wow, just, uh, just a, just a great win. And um, yeah, I mean, I'm never gonna forget it. But yeah, I didn't cry, I, I thought I was going to, and then, you know, I just, I just didn't. I don't know, you know it's is what it.
Speaker 2:I was super excited because I had watched. Cubs are my team, but we had the season we had. But I watched the Dodgers every day too, so they were my second team, so I was ecstatic when they won.
Speaker 2:I was parading around the living room with my hands in the air I felt that I was part of the victory also and that I had been welcomed by the Dodgers. And you know and I plan to do that next year yeah, to watch both teams every day. You know, I'm sure Ashley's glad the season's over, even though she loves baseball.
Speaker 1:But what are we going to do next? Well, we're going to have to come up with something to talk about every week. Things will happen in the offseason, but there's no guarantee that something will happen every week, so we're going to have to dig, but we've been looking forward to that the challenge of doing this show through an offseason.
Speaker 2:Hey, pucks, we'll just get silly. We don't care, we don't care at all.
Speaker 1:Well, we get silly when there are things I know. Right, we're going to get really silly when there's nothing to talk about. Oh man, but yeah, it's. Yeah, I don't know what else to say. I'm so happy. I've already ordered my shirt and my pennant. I didn't go as crazy this, this go around as I did in 2020 with the championship merchandise, right? Uh, I'm definitely going to get the dvd set. Yeah, you know, so I can go back and watch, you know, every game if I want to and make sure, when you get it, you take it out and watch it.
Speaker 1:First thing because I got burnt on. Yeah, you did get burnt on you and you cannot get them anymore yeah, they, they go quickly. Yep, they go quickly, yeah, but um, yeah, man, just uh, really fantastic, really a really good day great season, great ending, great everything.
Speaker 1:A great season top to bottom. You know a lot of big moment, I mean, and just just for the dodgers, you know, um and this goes to not not having just one guy having a full team you know, teoscar hernandez becomes the first dodger to win the home run, derby right, never forget that. Uh, shohei becomes the first player to get 50-50. Yep, never forget that. You know, and for me, you were talking about those moments when you hear baseball. I think watching the Shohei Otani game when he got to 50-50, that's going to be one of those for me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:You know, because that was just the perfect storm. You know, getting to watch it with Jen, you know, and her, you know, it being an earlier game. So she watched the whole game and you know, talking to you and you watching it on a delay because you were out of the house and all that you know that day that was a really special day. And then that Freddie Freeman Grand Slam in game one. You know we're never going to stop seeing that video and hearing that call.
Speaker 2:Well, last week we billed it as Godzilla versus King Kong, and you know the I don't know, we had a bunch of them. Yeah, it lived up to every moment and more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it only went five games, but I think you're right, and I saw a lot, a lot of people posting that don't normally post about baseball, right, I saw, I saw people that we both know saying they hadn't watched a baseball game in years yeah and they were watching this world series.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what it meant, um, and for me it means everything. Because, again, you know, this is this is just another, another feather in the cap of this great run of dodger baseball. And I know that we we as fans of the dodgers now get viewed as like we're spoiled, and we are. I'm not gonna say we're not, but if you're like me and you lived through the mccourt ownership and you lived through the long stretch without postseason success in the 90s, in the early 2000s, that's why I care so much about this team. Yeah, because I know it can't last forever. I know there's going to come another time when we're not in the playoffs, when we're not doing this well, and, um, because nobody can sustain that forever. Right, it just it's gonna end, um, but this will still be my team, I'll still love them, I'll still watch, uh, but I'm living it up right now and you should living it up, not and again, this is kind of the theme of the day not taking it for granted for a second. Yeah, you know, um, living and dying with with it all man from from february to to november, basically, um, this is, this is my life, and I couldn't be happier. Couldn't be happier. My weed shop is sending me texts. Okay, I was like, who is that? Oh, it's my weed. On that note.
Speaker 1:Then Couldn't be happier. My weed shop is sending me texts. Okay, I was like, who is that? Oh, it's my weed shop. On that note. Then you got anything else to say about this World Series, or?
Speaker 2:this season at all. I'm sad the season is over, but I'm grateful that it went out like a line.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really did A great year, a great year for baseball, you might say Brian, a great year for baseball you might say, brian, a great year for baseball.
Speaker 1:So I guess now it's awards season, it's new manager season. You know I joked about Will Venable, but that is news. The lowly White Sox have their new man in charge. He's a young, exciting manager who has been looked at as a really serious candidate for managerial jobs and he's finally got his opportunity. Skip Schumacher, who I think from a Dodger perspective I already love Skip Schumacher, but for him to say I'm going to go after Otani, when he's having the game of anybody's lifetime, like probably the single greatest game in history by one player, for him to say, nope, go after him, go after him. Too much respect for that guy to just put him on base and not give him the chance to. And Skip saying after look, sometimes it's bigger than you, it's bigger than your team, it, it's just out of your hands and and um, he, he, he's, he's gonna be, he's gonna get a shot somewhere yeah um, you know and, and, and, and, who knows?
Speaker 1:there's probably more opening still to happen. So, uh, we'll see where skip schumacher ends up. A lot of big name free agents. You know the, the yankees. The yankees are going to be an interesting topic this offseason because they got a lot coming off the books and, um, obviously their fan base and that organization not happy with this result no, no, they can't be happy at all happy. Happy they got there, but not what they wanted. Aaron.
Speaker 1:Judge is not going to be Aaron Judge forever. And you don't know that you've got Soto coming back. You don't know that you've got Gleyber Torres coming back. I think Anthony Rizzo's a free agent. There's a lot that can happen for the Yankees this offseason, and so that's going to be a topic of conversation moving forward. Um, and then somebody is going to do something crazy and make a trade that nobody saw coming.
Speaker 1:That's inevitable just about every season, every offseason so you know, um, yeah, so, uh, I guess, I guess that's going to do it for us for this season. We're going to switch to off season mode. We're probably going to take some weeks off. I know, I know the week of Thanksgiving we're most likely not going to have a show peek behind the curtain. We we record on Thursdays and it's hard to put one of these in the can the week before because we try to stay really topical on this show. So, uh, so we we may not be around each and every single week through the off season, but we're going to do our best. Um, probably going to talk about some old stuff, um, because that's something we've really not capitalized on as much as we've talked about doing watching some old games, some old world series, some old all Series, some old All-Star games, talking about some of the things of the past and all that. But, yeah, let us know what you want to hear this offseason the crazier the better. If you've listened to us for very much at all, you know that we like talking about the off-the-wall stuff. So we're going to do some of that as we move forward. But let's put a bow on the 2024 season because it's over. The Dodgers are at the top of the heap and I can't wait to see the footage and the pictures from that parade. Man, oh yeah, it's going to be epic.
Speaker 1:All right, so you can follow the show on Twitter at 2gtb pod. I'm at dallas danger brian is at three crows, bri 2gtbstore. If you want to buy some swag with some uh 2gtb logo on it, we got a little something for everybody, as we say each and every week, and it is free to look. And then patreoncom slash 2gtb. Uh, we've gotten a little lax on adding bonus stuff to that, but we'll, uh, we'll, try to get back to that as the off season goes along. And uh, yeah, uh, what a season, what a great way to end it. And we'll be back next week with, uh, god knows what. Um, we'll talk some awards. Well, who knows man, no telling what we're going to pull out of our ass the next few months while the while we experienced what I like to refer to as the dark times. Thank you, as always, for listening. We love you guys so much. And go, dodgers, we'll see you at the ballpark.
